PREDATORS AT OILERS G10 2014-15

EBERLE COMMON

The Oilers are starting to take on some injuries as the season reaches the 10-game mark. Jordan Eberle is playing but well short of 100%, and Niki Nikitin missed the last game with back troubles and could miss more (backs, ugh!). Viktor Fasth is closer to full health and Luke Gazdic is too, but we’re all uncertain about when and where he’ll play in the lineup.

LINEUP FOR TONIGHT (5PM)

  • Hall—Nuge—Eberle
  • Perron—Draisaitl—Purcell
  • Pouliot—Arcobello—Yakupov
  • Hendricks—Gordon—Joensuu
  • Marincin—Fayne
  • Ference—Petry
  • Hunt—Schultz
  • Scrivens (Bachman)

There’s a certain sadness and sense of loss that country music captures perfectly. I think part of it is the harmonies mixed with fiddle, mandolin and steel, plus the words are usually about places and points in time when things were better and we were all younger. The really good country music is written by the haggard and sung by the hummingbirds—thus the choice of song and artist today. I don’t know AJ Lee from Alvin Lee, but this version of one of my favorite songs is a perfect introduction to the best things about country music.

The song was written by the great Gram Parsons. It’s by far the best thing he wrote and man he did it up right. If you’ve ever been alone and lonely, you know feel of hickory wind.

EVEN-STRENGTH DEPLOYMENT OF THE BLUE, 2014-15 ev toi 1415 d

Interesting developments here, as Jeff Petry has moved up the depth chart and is playing more 5×5. The Fayne number is the current curio, I think a more natural mix might be Schultz and Fayne getting about 16.5 minutes each. Either way, less Schultz at EVs means less chaos at this point in his career. Much has been made about Schultz and his age, but the fact remains no matter his age the young man hasn’t flown a lot of defensive sorties. A player with his foot speed should have a long career, and should get better defensively, but there’s zero reason for him to be the No. 1 EV option on this team.

2014-15 OILERS BLUE AT A GLANCE

PLAYER BOXCARS CORSI FOR % OZ STARTS QUA COMP 5X5 PER 60
JUSTIN SCHULTZ 9GP, 2-2-4 47.9 61.2 4th 1.15
NIKITA NIKITIN 8GP, 1-2-3 50.2 64.1 1st 0.91
MARK FAYNE 9GP, 1-2-3 44.8 50.0 3rd 0.92
BRAD HUNT 4GP, 1-0-1 50.0 50.0 7th 0.00
JEFF PETRY 8GP, 0-1-1 52.5 41.0 5th 0.44
ANDREW FERENCE 9GP, 0-0-0 50.5 37.5 6th 0.00
MARTIN MARINCIN 5GP, 0-0-0 38.0 38.5 2nd 0.00

The graph suggests to me the Schultz Corsi for % (this is 5×5) should be miles better based on OZ starts and qual comp (which we’re always leery of even over an entire season). Marincin’s Corsi is very low but it’s even earlier for him and have a glance at the OZ/comp and it’s fascinating to me that’s the guy you choose for the role over Ference or Nikitin. We’ll see if Marincin can flourish in that role, it’s a pretty fierce storm he’s playing in.

friedman brodziakAnother encouraging sign that the Oilers are looking to improve depth and give this team a chance to push as high as they can into the top of the second division. If they can remain close to No. 8 in the conference, I hope the organization considers adding some depth to the team. If you deal for Brodziak at the deadline, maybe he plays well and hangs around for another season or two.

BARONS PLAY TONIGHT!

Neal at Tend the Farm has a cool Tom Petty item as part of his OKC Barons GDT, and you can check it out here. Estimated lineups:

  • Moroz-Lander-Pakarinen
  • R.Hamilton-Williams-Pitlick-Miller
  • C.Hamilton-Yakimov-Pinizzotto
  • Kessy-Ewanyk-Ford-Khaira
  • Simpson-Oesterle
  • Klefbom-Gernat
  • Aulie-Musil-Ludwig
  • Tuohimaa—Bunz

That’s based on yesterday’s practice and the first thing that jumps out at me is the massive push for Moroz. Lordy. Yakimov is getting consistent time in the middle, I think he’s going to get more NHL time this season if the Oilers don’t bring in a Brodziak. Lander is in a world of trouble with the Oilers I believe, despite his position on this depth chart. Prospects can come out of a dive, but the Oilers can get stubborn on a player good and bad, suspect Lander’s in that spot now.

friedman

Elliotte Friedman’s 30 thoughts have the usual Oilers content (Edmonton’s young team is an attractive target for media because it’s such a compelling story AND there might be some real sustain one of these years). A couple of items:

  • 6. Nail Yakupov scored his second of the season in that win. There’ve been a lot of rumours about his future, but I confess I haven’t heard anything substantial. After a week of looking into it, here’s my best guess: he’s not untouchable, but the Oilers asked him to show more commitment in the off-season and on the ice. So far, he has delivered. It sounds like Edmonton wants to reward that. Dallas Eakins is trusting him in late-game one-goal leads, something that never would have happened a year ago.

I’ll talk to two of my guests today about this weird disconnect that has all of our eyes (including Eakins) seeing one thing and the numbers preaching another. Is this the period where maybe we’re ahead of the math and it catches up?

  • 7. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins scored the game winner against Tampa Bay and the game-tier versus Washington in back-to-back games. He’s got a much-improved shot. He’s stronger and made it a summer project. “Shot 100 pucks four times a week,” he said. “Shooting as hard as I can…High blocker, high glove, low glove, around the horn.”

I think the Nuge will have a splendid career if he averages 55 points a season. If he gets to 70 a year? Lordy.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDEadams222

At 10 this morning, TSN 1260. Bruce McCurdy kicks things off at 10:05 and we’ll talk Yakupov and Petry and Nashville. At 10:25 it’s Ask the coach with Goalie Whisperer Dustin Schwartz and at 11 Michael Parkatti from Boys on the Bus gives us a feel for the 2014-15 Oilers as a team. Probably a baseball guest at 11:25, and I’ll be filling in for Dave Jamieson today noon to 2 so hang around if you can.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide_ on twitter and I’ll see you on the radio!

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  1. Pouzar says:

    NSH reallly not giving any room for the Oil to operate. They deserved a better fate.

  2. BeerMe says:

    Well, we survived the first 20.

  3. Pouzar says:

    The WS game not gonna finish at 3-2 is it?

    I think KC rallies

  4. Halfwise says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Oilers won’t get anything against this D and then there’s pekka. Best D I’ve seen all year. 1 shot inside 25 ft.
    If preds ever get some higher end talent up front look out

    Arco for Weber, then. Might have to sweeten it a bit….

  5. Lowetide says:

    Pouzar:
    The WS game not gonna finish at 3-2 is it?

    I think KC rallies

    Yep. Bumgarner facing top of the order here. Oilers weren’t in that period btw.

  6. BeerMe says:

    Great, time to listen to this circlejerking panel of half-wits

  7. Suntory Hanzo says:

    It seems the oilers have had more breaks go their way (after the burrows hand pass) than I have seen in full seasons. Mayhaps their are getting more ‘respect’ than before.

  8. oliveoilers says:

    BeerMe:
    Great, time to listen to this circlejerking panel of half-wits

    Got the dream team there tonight. Friedman must be in purgatory or something to deserve this. Imagine swapping him out for PJ Stock.

  9. JAG-041 says:

    At least we weren’t being TOTALLY dominated in our own end by the end of the period, now just to figure out how to get over that opposing blue line… ask Hendricks and Gordon?

  10. striker says:

    Tie game in OKC with 4:43 left in game

  11. spoiler says:

    Bumgarner is a freakin machine.

  12. cadooo says:

    Player TOI ZS Corsi@EV
    LEON DRAISAITL 04:34 0 75
    JEFF PETRY 07:07 25 60
    TEDDY PURCELL 04:49 0 60
    DAVID PERRON 04:50 0 60
    ANDREW FERENCE 06:43 25 55.6
    JORDAN EBERLE 06:27 66.67 54.5
    RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS 06:52 66.67 50
    TAYLOR HALL 06:58 66.67 46.2
    BOYD GORDON 03:53 16.67 42.9
    JESSE JOENSUU 04:53 16.67 37.5
    MATT HENDRICKS 04:43 16.67 37.5
    MARK FAYNE 06:17 50 35.7
    MARTIN MARINCIN 06:38 50 35.7
    JUSTIN SCHULTZ 07:00 50 33.3
    BRAD HUNT 06:15 50 27.3
    BENOIT POULIOT 03:30 100 22.2
    NAIL YAKUPOV 03:50 100 18.2
    MARK ARCOBELLO 04:41 100 16.7

  13. Pouzar says:

    Yakimov helped off ice

  14. Marcus Oilerius says:

    BeerMe:
    Great, time to listen to this circlejerking panel of half-wits

    I was watching the Detroit-Washington game earlier and thinking to myself how nice it is to not have to listen to Mike Milbury explain hockey and share his opinions about it.

    Instead, we get Doug MacLean.

  15. rickithebear says:

    BeerMe:
    Well, we survived the first 20.

    First 10 min Per 1
    Edm
    0-15ft 0sh 2 miss
    15-30 ft 1sh
    30+ft 1sh 2 miss
    0 blocked

    NSH
    0-15 FT 2SH
    15-30 Ft 4SH
    30+ 3SH 2 miss
    3 blocked

    last 10 Per 1
    EDM
    0-15 ft 1SH 1 miss
    15-30 Ft 0SH
    30 + 0SH 2 Miss
    2 blocked

    NSH
    0-15ft 0SH
    15-30FT 0Sh
    30+ Ft 2SH 1 miss
    4 blocked

    we survived the first 10.

    We out boxed
    Chance/defend the last 10

    Block + miss + shot = ???????????

  16. kinger_OIL says:

    baumgarner: wow. Legend. Crazy world series stats.

  17. spoiler says:

    MAN NUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nope too high

  18. Pouzar says:

    WHAT.A.SHOT.

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

  19. Marcus Oilerius says:

    WOW, Nuge, holy hell that’s a crazy wrister. Aww… no goal.

  20. G Money says:

    Man, the Oilers were wilting like blanched flowers under that Nsh forecheck.

    Some of it is understandable, they are pretty fast (this is Nsh??!?). But what gets me is the Ference “pass to nowhere”. Also annoying is the Petry “deer in headlights”. Where did this come from?

    linkfromhyrule: what year is your NSX? They are sweet cars

    1998. Bought it new off the showroom floor after I sold my company. Serial #1!

    “Frank The Dog”: Did you ever deal with that company in Sacramento that specialize in hopping up Acuras? You could call them the Dinan of NSX’s.

    Not Sacramento, I’ve talked to the guys in Phoenix (ScienceOfSpeed), but haven’t pulled the trigger on any mods. Since I became a dad (10 years ago), I’ve barely driven it. Still not even 30K, so hard to justify putting in $25K in upgrades!

  21. spoiler says:

    Why is this face off coming outside?

  22. oliveoilers says:

    Holy shit, Nuge just tried to kil Rinne!

  23. spoiler says:

    I am surprised Eakins isn’t matching The Fantastic Fourth against the Cullen line.

  24. "Frank The Dog" says:

    G Money:
    Man, the Oilers were wilting like blanched flowers under that Nsh forecheck.

    Some of it is understandable, they are pretty fast (this is Nsh??!?).But what gets me is the Ference “pass to nowhere”.Also annoying is the Petry “deer in headlights”.Where did this come from?

    1998. Bought it new off the showroom floor after I sold my company.Serial #1!

    Not Sacramento, I’ve talked to the guys in Phoenix (ScienceOfSpeed), but haven’t pulled the trigger on any mods.Since I became a dad (10 years ago), I’ve barely driven it.Still not even 30K, so hard to justify putting in $25K in upgrades!

    I hear you.

  25. Lowetide says:

    Leon’s got some confidence tonight. Nice to see.

  26. spoiler says:

    Bumgarner takes the mound in the 9th… for those who care.

  27. jp says:

    Lovely move by Draisaitl!

  28. "Frank The Dog" says:

    Yak’s playing like they all insulted one of his family.

  29. hunter1909 says:

    Well.

  30. Marcus Oilerius says:

    Well, that’s all I need to see of this game.

    Work starts early tomorrow. Nite all.

  31. spoiler says:

    KC hits a two out triple.

  32. spoiler says:

    Nuge still missing the net from in close.

  33. hunter1909 says:

    Why can’t they score lol

  34. jp says:

    Christ. Some decent play, then 2 GA.

  35. Lucinius says:

    Perron has looked slow/lazy all game (and the past few, honestly, imo).

  36. oliveoilers says:

    We’re back!

  37. spoiler says:

    And its midnight for Cinderella. Royals lose.

  38. oliveoilers says:

    Eakins seriously has to consider someone else to support Hall and Nuge. Ebs is a ghost out there.

  39. gcw_rocks says:

    Lucinius:
    Perron has looked slow/lazy all game (and the past few, honestly, imo).

    Should have sold high on him for a defender or a centre. He was never worth more and was the most easily replaced

  40. Pouzar says:

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO San Fran………3 World Series in 5 years. At least the JerkStore didn’t win one.

  41. spoiler says:

    Bumgarner must be a shoo-in for MVP of everything.

  42. spoiler says:

    I would like to know what constitutes a penalty in this game. Does the reffing crew leave at 11:30 for 3 days off in Vegas?

  43. Ryan says:

    gcw_rocks: Should have sold high on him for a defender or a centre.He was never worth more and was the most easily replaced

    That’s what I said during the offseason before I was told by Woodguy and everyone else that we had to keep good players blah blah fucking blah.

    Hi woodguy!

  44. spoiler says:

    Did Yak get that whole shift with Hall and Nuge?

  45. godot10 says:

    gcw_rocks: Should have sold high on him for a defender or a centre.He was never worth more and was the most easily replaced

    Although I agree that trading him in the summer might have been a good idea, Perron was injured. He was likely untradeable because of the injury. It is why his play has been subpar this year. Probably should have risked the surgery to fix his hip, and missed part of the season.

    The injury will make it nearly impossible to settle on a fair value and term for a new contract next summer, which means next year he will play out his contract to become a free agent.

  46. G Money says:

    Is it just me, or do an awful lot of Nsh’s “good defensive plays” on Hall & co. look like “cross checks”, “hooks”, and “holds”?

    After the called-back goal, I figured the blatant uncalled hook on Hendricks was the equalizer, but even 2-0 doesn’t seem to be enough to assuage the guilt …

  47. Pouzar says:

    Hey Romanuk…we don’t give a f^ck what you think of the World Championships.
    Call the damn game #grumpy

  48. wheatnoil says:

    spoiler:
    Did Yak get that whole shift with Hall and Nuge?

    Eberle got dumped pretty hard into the boards the shift before that.
    Wonder if he needed a shift to collect himself and Yak took his spot.

  49. spoiler says:

    Rinne’s far post looks open every time the Oil come down the right wing for a shot.

  50. Pouzar says:

    G Money:
    Is it just me, or do an awful lot of Nsh’s “good defensive plays” on Hall & co. look like “cross checks”, “hooks”, and “holds”?

    After the called-back goal, I figured the blatant uncalled hook on Hendricks was the equalizer, but even 2-0 doesn’t seem to be enough to assuage the guilt …

    Not only you. I’ve seen many liberties taken out there.

  51. spoiler says:

    wheatnoil: Eberle got dumped pretty hard into the boards the shift before that.
    Wonder if he needed a shift to collect himself and Yak took his spot.

    Thx. That’s the problem with watching two sports simultaneously.

  52. G Money says:

    The reason Neal lost his stick is because he had it dug deep on the Oiler player skating past him.

  53. wheatnoil says:

    spoiler: Thx. That’s the problem with watching two sports simultaneously,

    Actually, it looks like it might not have been Nuge on that shift. It might have been Hall double shifted with Yak’s line.

  54. spoiler says:

    G Money:
    Is it just me, or do an awful lot of Nsh’s “good defensive plays” on Hall & co. look like “cross checks”, “hooks”, and “holds”?

    After the called-back goal, I figured the blatant uncalled hook on Hendricks was the equalizer, but even 2-0 doesn’t seem to be enough to assuage the guilt …

    Yep, I mentioned it a few minutes earlier after a blatant interference.

  55. Pouzar says:

    Oh Teddy

  56. striker says:

    The Purcell-Drai-Perron Line’s d-zone coverage is brutal

  57. G Money says:

    spoiler,

    In some ways I don’t even mind the hooks and holds, but the uncalled cross checks drive me fucking batshit crazy.

  58. spoiler says:

    Finally a call after good work in the phone booth by Perron.

  59. G Money says:

    A penalty! A penalty! A penalty!

    Guess even these refs had enough.

  60. spoiler says:

    And a much needed TV timeout.

  61. Pouzar says:

    And Schultz with the nothing shot from the point. Again.

  62. jp says:

    Looks like Perron might be back.

  63. jake70 says:

    G Money:
    A penalty!A penalty!A penalty!

    On the US based team.

  64. striker says:

    Finally, a PP opportunity.

    Make hay while the sun shines boys!!!

  65. G Money says:

    jake70,

    😀

  66. Pouzar says:

    jp:
    Looks like Perron might be back.

    Trade him.

  67. spoiler says:

    Pouzar: Trade him.

    Nah. Trade Eberle. You’ll get more.

    😀

  68. G Money says:

    Did he just call the Rexall ice “good”?

    Hey buddy, phone’s for you, it’s the 90s calling.

  69. G Money says:

    That check on Marincin – again, the Nsh player LOST HIS STICK because he had it nicely dug in. Ref: it’s called HOLDING, and when it’s that blatant, it’s your job to call it.

  70. BeerMe says:

    Tyler vs Taylor? Do they really have nothing to talk about?

  71. Lowetide says:

    Much better period. They’re down by two but plenty to talk about that period. Nuge line doesn’t score tonight there needs to be an investigation.

  72. striatic says:

    G Money: Did he just call the Rexall ice “good”?
    Hey buddy, phone’s for you, it’s the 90s calling.

    Edmonton routinely gets voted as having the best ice in the league on the annual NHL player survey.

    Not that it’s true, just that it is a really widely held myth and it is really easy for the broadcaster to defer to the players’ survey on this, even if it is wrong.

  73. Pouzar says:

    G Money:
    Did he just call the Rexall ice “good”?

    Hey buddy, phone’s for you, it’s the 90s calling.

    SO the new multi-billion arena is going to have the ultimate in ice making technology right? Like…a new sheet after every stoppage or something?

  74. icecastles says:

    What the hell. I leave you guys alone for a couple hours and come back to 2-0? Just a couple bad bounces and the Oilers have actually been dominant, right? right?

  75. Pouzar says:

    So a nice 4-2 comeback win would really kick this streak into overdrive wouldn’t it?

  76. Pouzar says:

    I don’t think they understand what “underrated” means.

  77. icecastles says:

    Pouzar:
    I don’t think they understand what “underrated” means.

    I don’t think they understand how to tie their own shoelaces.

  78. striatic says:

    icecastles: Just a couple bad bounces and the Oilers have actually been dominant, right? right?

    They are ahead overall on Corsi at also at EV, but just like the Montreal game there are score effects at play.

  79. "Frank The Dog" says:

    Good test of character going on here.

  80. RexLibris says:

    Oilers way ahead in the Corsi on this one, but by eye they are getting boxed out very well and are registering only marginal scoring chances with a few “if only” really good scoring opportunities.

    Not sure if it is Nashville out-scheming the Oilers or the Oilers just not playing in sync. Probably a little column A, a little column B.

  81. B S says:

    Friedman on the panel, just wow it’s like sesame street, one of these things is not like the others. I feel so sorry for him.

  82. B S says:

    RexLibris:
    Oilers way ahead in the Corsi on this one, but by eye they are getting boxed out very well and are registering only marginal scoring chances with a few “if only” really good scoring opportunities.

    Not sure if it is Nashville out-scheming the Oilers or the Oilers just not playing in sync. Probably a little column A, a little column B.

    Scrivens is giving up rebounds and poor at handling the puck. Nashville has played to that perfectly so far, shooting as soon as they get in the Ozone and charging in on the rebound behind the defenders. They came in with a game plan for Edmonton, not sure the Oilers are on the same level strategically.

  83. Lucinius says:

    Whelp.

    Streak was going to end sometime…

  84. G Money says:

    RexLibris,

    Helped tremendously by a bakers dozen of non-calls in favour of Nsh.

  85. AZOIL says:

    This kypreos guy is annoying. Now I know why you guys alway complain. WOW!

  86. jake70 says:

    RexLibris:
    Oilers way ahead in the Corsi on this one, but by eye they are getting boxed out very well and are registering only marginal scoring chances with a few “if only” really good scoring opportunities.

    Not sure if it is Nashville out-scheming the Oilers or the Oilers just not playing in sync. Probably a little column A, a little column B.

    Oil exhaust themselves cycling, may or may not get the shot off. Welcome to the west.

  87. "Frank The Dog" says:

    G Money:
    RexLibris,

    Helped tremendously by a bakers dozen of non-calls in favour of Nsh.

    They’re ‘Mercan. Welcome to the NHL Canadian/big market handicap.

  88. G Money says:

    There’s a perverse part of me that thinks it would be really interesting if the Oilers went 32-0 against the East and 0-25-25 against the West.

  89. "Frank The Dog" says:

    oh. 3 now! (switched to a documentary, just watching this blog and the boxscore)

    Hopefully they’ll practice hard after this and come out hard and disciplined against (spit) Vancouver.

  90. spoiler says:

    Part of me thinks that by keeping Draisaitl up and not bringing in a better center that we’re wasting The Gordon Years.

  91. G Money says:

    This game is a perfect mirror image of the Habs game.

  92. spoiler says:

    If they weren’t out of synch before, they sure look like it now.

  93. B S says:

    Bench Perron, what the hell was that?

  94. Pouzar says:

    Trade Hall.

  95. Zelepukin says:

    Classic, how long can i hang onto the puck, Perron.

  96. spoiler says:

    Thank you sweet Baby Jesus.

  97. G Money says:

    NUGE TO HALL!!! What a combo.

  98. Lucinius says:

    Well, broke the shut out, at least.

  99. Backhand says:

    Something’s wrong with Eberle’s legs. He’s not moving around well and just floating.

  100. G Money says:

    Zelepukin,

    That was a perfect representation of the Oilers possession-to-shot conversion process.

  101. Pouzar says:

    G Money:
    NUGE TO HALL!!!What a combo.

    Eberle zone exit.

  102. jp says:

    Draisaitl really looks like he’s going to be a hell of a player!

  103. B S says:

    c’mon Hall, lets see another 3rd period hat-trick.

  104. gcw_rocks says:

    Lucinius:
    Whelp.

    Streak was going to end sometime…

    Like whenever they played a western conference team.

  105. Pouzar says:

    jp:
    Draisaitl really looks like he’s going to be a hell of a player!

    This. I have zero worries about this kid becoming a future stud.

  106. spoiler says:

    I like this switch of Nuge and Arcobello, when they’re trying to mount a comeback.

  107. wheatnoil says:

    spoiler:
    Part of me thinks that by keeping Draisaitl up and not bringing in a better center that we’re wasting The Gordon Years.

    This.

  108. Pouzar says:

    Boo

  109. delooper says:

    Many, Eberle got rag-dolled there by Ellis.

  110. Lucinius says:

    Horrific decision to pinch there.. Hunt?

  111. striker says:

    Now that’s how you play a 2 on 1….

  112. Pouzar says:

    Hunt. Jezzuz FLIPPIn H.

  113. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Always liked Cullen. Skates well and he’s always been a bargain.

  114. G Money says:

    That play set up by a beauty combo cross check, hold, trip on Eberle in the Nsh corner.

    Not sure how blatant these have to be.

  115. Pouzar says:

    Jokinen. That Hair is hideous bro.

  116. wheatnoil says:

    Soooo… Nikitin to IR, Klefbom to NHL?

  117. B S says:

    Lucinius,

    Then Jultz tells him to cover the guy on the right, instead Hunt tries to intercept the pass.

  118. Bling says:

    Eberle looking better, but still getting caught not moving in the corners.

    Refs aren’t going to call a penalty if you’re just standing there.

    Led to a goal for the opposition that time.

  119. Pretendergast says:

    Nashville does things with purpose. We have most of the possession in this third by eye and yet have only threatened with the 1 line out there. Every shot by the predators is for the most part dangerous.

  120. G Money says:

    Man, Eberle is just not good out there.

  121. spoiler says:

    Lucinius:
    Horrific decision to pinch there.. Hunt?

    They’re going to pinch on everything at this point in the game.

    I’d like to know what happened to Nuge there that he spasmed back and lots in his balalnce. He was the cover guy, but something weird happened to take him out of the play.

  122. Pouzar says:

    G Money:
    Man, Eberle is just not good out there.

    I wouldn’t say that. I thought he’s been better tonight than any of the last 4 or so games. This team has been getting mugged.

  123. spoiler says:

    Very nice kickout by Bartleby on Nystorm.

  124. B S says:

    Why is Hunt out there again? how many points do they want to lose by?

  125. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Holy rebounds scribbles

  126. godot10 says:

    jp:
    Draisaitl really looks like he’s going to be a hell of a player!

    Taylor Hall might be playing in another city by the time he does though.

  127. G Money says:

    Bling,

    Not moving? Eberle had the puck in the corner and the Nsh defender cross checked him to the ice. Eberle got up and still came up with the puck and as he tried to skate up the boards, the Nsh defender (who was behind Eberle the ENTIRE time) wrapped his arms and stick around him and then pulled him back onto the ice. What do they call that in wrestling? A suplex?

  128. spoiler says:

    My friends tell me there is a robot in that Old Spice Ad.

  129. jp says:

    spoiler:
    Part of me thinks that by keeping Draisaitl up and not bringing in a better center that we’re wasting The Gordon Years.

    Very well said.

  130. striatic says:

    “Frank The Dog”,

    They haven’t been *that* bad.

    Bad bounces, facing good goaltending, Nashville being a better team.

    It isn’t as bad as the scoreline suggests.

  131. Pouzar says:

    jp: Very well said.

    Can we all agree that better center is not Olli frickin Jokinen?

  132. spoiler says:

    striatic:
    “Frank The Dog”,

    They haven’t been *that* bad.

    Bad bounces, facing good goaltending, Nashville being a better team.

    It isn’t as bad as the scoreline suggests.

    And they have fought their way through a veritable palisade of sticks.

  133. G Money says:

    Anyone see that hooking penalty?

    I’ve seen five Nsh sticks go flying from hooks dug in so far they couldn’t get the stick free, no calls.

  134. godot10 says:

    Hating on an injured Eberle is not going to make Yakupov a better player, or cure Eakins cluelessness about how to utilize Yakupov.

  135. Gerta Rauss says:

    godot10: Taylor Hall might be playing in another city by the time he does though.

    Hall will join Perron. I have it on good authority the Perron’s days in Edmonton are numbered.

  136. Gerta Rauss says:

    Both teams were full marks for that result

  137. Suntory Hanzo says:

    The preds make simple, effective hockey look really easy.

  138. AZOIL says:

    Would eberle, jultz, and our 1st get weber! Man I would love to see him crush the flames with that shot!

  139. G Money says:

    godot10,

    I’m not “hating” on Eberle, that’s stupid. If Eberle is injured and ineffective, he should rest.

    Yak’s problems are not cluelessness on the coach, they are Yak needing to learn how to play with his linemates.

  140. spoiler says:

    Pouzar: Can we all agree that better center is not Olli frickin Jokinen?

    Canada Drai is a long way from having the decision-making ability of Olli Jokinen. He’s Tipperary.

    They match up in size, reach, face-off ability. Neither are blazers on their skates. There’s nothing wrong with Olli’s vision. They do not match up in experience, positioning, puck management, etc.

  141. SK Oiler Fan says:

    The book is out on Scrivens. Low to the glove and high to the blocker = rebound and Scrivens losing track of the puck.
    Beat by a better team tonight. That D is something else

  142. Pouzar says:

    godot10:
    Hating on an injured Eberle is not going to make Yakupov a better player,or cure Eakins cluelessness about how to utilize Yakupov.

    QFT

  143. AZOIL says:

    Gerta Rauss: Hall will join Perron. I have it on good authority the Perron’s days in Edmonton are numbered.

    What do you know?

  144. godot10 says:

    So this loony Brad Hunt experiment to pander to MacT’s ego is back on. The Oilers got lucky against Montreal, but dressing 5 NHL defensemen and one mediocre AHL defender is a recipe for disaster in the conference where they play real hockey.

  145. Pouzar says:

    spoiler: Canada Drai is a long way from having the decision-making ability of Olli Jokinen. He’s Tipperary.

    They match up in size, reach, face-off ability. Neither are blazers on their skates. There’s nothing wrong with Olli’s vision. They do not match up in experience, positioning, etc.

    I have no clue what you are saying.

  146. Pouzar says:

    godot10:
    So this loony Brad Hunt experiment to pander to MacT’s ego is back on.The Oilers got lucky against Montreal, but dressing 5 NHL defensemen and one mediocre AHL defender is a recipe for disaster in the conference where they play real hockey.

    Preach it brutha.

  147. spoiler says:

    godot10:
    Hating on an injured Eberle is not going to make Yakupov a better player,or cure Eakins cluelessness about how to utilize Yakupov.

    Who did that?

  148. Lowetide says:

    I would make only one change for Saturday.. Hunt to the minors, Klefbom to the NHL and into the lineup.

  149. cadooo says:

    Player Corsi
    JORDAN EBERLE 60
    TAYLOR HALL 59.5
    RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS 59
    BOYD GORDON 58.8
    LEON DRAISAITL 57.1
    DAVID PERRON 54.2
    MATT HENDRICKS 52.9
    TEDDY PURCELL 52.2
    JESSE JOENSUU 50
    BENOIT POULIOT 44
    NAIL YAKUPOV 40.7
    MARK ARCOBELLO 34.6

    Player OZS%
    NAIL YAKUPOV 100
    MARK ARCOBELLO 100
    BENOIT POULIOT 83.33
    TAYLOR HALL 75
    JORDAN EBERLE 66.67
    RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS 64.29
    LEON DRAISAITL 60
    TEDDY PURCELL 57.14
    DAVID PERRON 57.14
    BOYD GORDON 27.78
    JESSE JOENSUU 10
    MATT HENDRICKS 8.33

    Player Corsi
    MARK FAYNE 58.1
    JUSTIN SCHULTZ 57.5
    MARTIN MARINCIN 57.1
    BRAD HUNT 56.8
    ANDREW FERENCE 42.4
    JEFF PETRY 40

    Player OZS%
    BRAD HUNT 72.73
    JUSTIN SCHULTZ 66.67
    JEFF PETRY 36.36
    MARTIN MARINCIN 36.36
    ANDREW FERENCE 33.33
    MARK FAYNE 33.33

  150. spoiler says:

    Pouzar: I have no clue what you are saying.

    I don’t doubt that for a second.

  151. Pouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    I would make only one change for Saturday.. Hunt to the minors, Klefbom to the NHL and into the lineup.

    Absolutely. That pinch late was ridiculous.

  152. Woodguy says:

    Gerta Rauss: Hall will join Perron. I have it on good authority the Perron’s days in Edmonton are numbered.

    Very rare (if ever) of you to post something like that.

    If Perron’s going then it might be for a decent return.

    Which team is interested?

  153. Lowetide says:

    spoiler: I don’t doubt that for a second.

    I have NO idea of context, but man I laughed at this post.

  154. Woodguy says:

    Pouzar: Absolutely. That pinch late was ridiculous.

    The decision to pinch there down 3-1 was sound.

    The execution of said pinch was not good.

    At all.

  155. spoiler says:

    Woodguy: Very rare (if ever) of you to post something like that.

    If Perron’s going then it might be for a decent return.

    Which team is interested?

    I was thinking Gerta was being facetious when I first read it, but if there’s some truth there, I wonder if the play of Iiro is giving MacT the confidence to make the trade.

    My worry is that he’s clearing space for Gazdic to get into the line-up.

  156. Woodguy says:

    Watched Yak very closely for corsi leaks.

    He’s a head case in his own zone.

    On his off wing so is facing the boards with the puck often and can’t see his passing options.

    Off the boards/glass and out is pretty standard if he gets the puck standing still.

    Eakins shouldn’t have given in and put him back on the right side, its contributing to killing his zone exit ability, and corsi.

    I had him at 0-6 on exits with possession when he had the puck in the dzone and stopped counting.

    If Gerta is right and they move Perron I wonder if they move Yak to the left?

  157. Pouzar says:

    spoiler: I don’t doubt that for a second.

    Must be the hair?

  158. Hammers says:

    Our 4th line got 4th line minutes . Hunt got 2nd most minutes Fayne gets least . RNH to much ice showing again the need for another “C” . Lander a goal plus 2 assists . Yak 2 injured We lost in OT . Pressure on the Oil vs Van before the big road trip . For a bunch of centers who hang around until the end those 3 looked like NHL centers . When’s Fisher back ?? anybody .

  159. Pouzar says:

    Woodguy: The decision to pinch there down 3-1 was sound.

    The execution of said pinch was not good.

    At all.

    Yes the execution sucked. It was halfhearted at best.

  160. Woodguy says:

    spoiler: My worry is that he’s clearing space for Gazdic to get into the line-up.

    My worry is that he’s clearing space for Gazdic to get into the line-up.

    Nahh.

    They want to upgrade Arco’s spot.

    He’s not working worth a shit with Yak.

    Bob dropped an Ollie trade hint today. (not nearly enough for Perron)

    Too bad Oille wasn’t a cheap FA this summer.

    Wait a minute……..

  161. One-Timer says:

    Reality just called, and it wants its win column back.

    On the other hand, the Oilers are improving. And they’re still a team in the National Hockey League. I’m feeling less bipolar about them than usual.

  162. Gerta Rauss says:

    Woodguy: Very rare (if ever) of you to post something like that.

    If Perron’s going then it might be for a decent return.

    Which team is interested?

    hahaha…

    I was poking fun of Godot’s post above-he’s certain that Perron is leaving next year because he and the OIlers can’t agree on a contract. He’s got his flight booked and his bags packed!!

  163. Woodguy says:

    cadooo:
    PlayerCorsi
    JORDAN EBERLE60
    TAYLOR HALL59.5
    RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS59
    BOYD GORDON58.8
    LEON DRAISAITL57.1
    DAVID PERRON54.2
    MATT HENDRICKS52.9
    TEDDY PURCELL52.2
    JESSE JOENSUU50
    BEN SCRIVENS50
    BENOIT POULIOT44
    NAIL YAKUPOV40.7
    MARK ARCOBELLO34.6

    PlayerOZS%
    NAIL YAKUPOV100
    MARK ARCOBELLO100
    BENOIT POULIOT83.33
    MATT HENDRICKS8.33
    TAYLOR HALL75
    JORDAN EBERLE66.67
    RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS64.29
    LEON DRAISAITL60
    TEDDY PURCELL57.14
    DAVID PERRON57.14
    BEN SCRIVENS50
    BOYD GORDON27.78
    JESSE JOENSUU10

    PlayerCorsi
    MARK FAYNE58.1
    JUSTIN SCHULTZ57.5
    MARTIN MARINCIN57.1
    BRAD HUNT56.8
    ANDREW FERENCE42.4
    JEFF PETRY40

    PlayerOZS%
    BRAD HUNT72.73
    JUSTIN SCHULTZ66.67
    JEFF PETRY36.36
    MARTIN MARINCIN36.36
    ANDREW FERENCE33.33
    MARK FAYNE33.33

    Thanks for that.

    Arc-Yak-Pou getting 100% OZS and the worst corsi is just fucking gross.

    Need to mix up that line and Saddle or inject some new blood.

    Dry-Yak-Pou wasn’t bad.

    Yak and Arco are oil and water.

  164. Gerta Rauss says:

    spoiler: I was thinking Gerta was being facetious when I first read it, but if there’s some truth there

    No truth, 100% facetious

    When Godot posts in absolutes it really irks me

  165. Woodguy says:

    Gerta Rauss: hahaha…

    I was poking fun of Godot’s post above-he’s certain thatPerron is leaving next year because he and the OIlers can’t agree on a contract. He’s got his flight booked and his bags packed!!

    Well shit.

    I was all excited for a trade.

    Didn’t read the thread.

    Dammit!

  166. Pouzar says:

    Gerta Rauss: hahaha…

    I was poking fun of Godot’s post above-he’s certain thatPerron is leaving next year because he and the OIlers can’t agree on a contract. He’s got his flight booked and his bags packed!!

    That’s a relief. Certain people don’t take too kind to inside info! 😛

  167. spoiler says:

    Woodguy: Bob dropped an Ollie trade hint today. (not nearly enough for Perron)

    Poile loves to collect good defensemen, even from the minors.

  168. Gerta Rauss says:

    Pouzar: That’s a relief. Certain people don’t take too kind to inside info!

    Ryan…is that you…?

  169. Pouzar says:

    Woodguy,

    I think Yak plays well with Drai and Hall…but Dallas wants no part of the former…and the latter ain’t happenin.

  170. spoiler says:

    Gerta Rauss: No truth, 100% facetious

    When Godot posts in absolutes it really irks me

    Agreed. There’s a couple of others that do it too. It’s funny, you almost don’t need to look at the score at the end of the game… just check to see who’s posting.

  171. Woodguy says:

    spoiler: Poile loves to collect good defensemen, even from the minors.

    Weber, Josi and Jones all better than any Oiler D.

    I like Ekholm a lot too.

    Ellis>>>Jultz

    Volchenckov >>>Ference

    NAS might have the best D corps in the NHL.

    Made EDM forecheck look useless all night.

  172. wheatnoil says:

    godot10:
    Hating on an injured Eberle is not going to make Yakupov a better player,or cure Eakins cluelessness about how to utilize Yakupov.

    I don’t know. I think 100% O-Zone starts is pretty good utilization of Yakupov in this game.

  173. icecastles says:

    wheatnoil: I don’t know. I think 100% O-Zone starts is pretty good utilization of Yakupov in this game.

    There’s a reason I call Godot “Shopping Cart”.

  174. spoiler says:

    Woodguy: Weber, Josi and Jones all better than any Oiler D.

    I like Ekholm a lot too.

    Ellis>>>Jultz

    Volchenckov >>>Ference

    NAS might have the best D corps in the NHL.

    Made EDM forecheck look useless all night.

    I really liked Ekholm’s game tonight.too, first real good look I’ve had of him… and Josi led the Preds in shots (with Smith who was a revelation himself), and Weber is just Weber. They’re outstanding.

    Hall saw Weber almost all night. All Nashville needed to do then was beat the middle of the order, and that’s no problem right now against the Oilers. It’s going to be worse on the road.

    This team won’t be good till the defense is good and the youngest kids are about 3 years from being there.

  175. wheatnoil says:

    Woodguy:
    Watched Yak very closely for corsi leaks.

    He’s a head case in his own zone.

    On his off wing so is facing the boards with the puck often and can’t see his passing options.

    Off the boards/glass and out is pretty standard if he gets the puck standing still.

    Eakins shouldn’t have given in and put him back on the right side, its contributing to killing his zone exit ability, and corsi.

    I had him at 0-6 on exits with possession when he had the puck in the dzone and stopped counting.

    I think it was NYCOIL who pointed out the same thing after the last game. Is there any site that’s tracking zone exits the way CoH was a couple years ago?

  176. spoiler says:

    If someone offered me a choice of beating the Preds or the Nuckleheads, I take the Nucks every day of the week and thrice on Sundays.
    😀

    Not that anyone did offer. Sadly.

  177. Rocknrolla says:

    Thats a playoff team folks….We improved by the end, but they gotta get more shots on net.

    Did anyone else notice some good zone time, cycle time by gordons and Drais line, but no shots!

    No one in front, and nothing back to the point for a shot.

    More shots kids!

  178. Bling says:

    That’s real disappointing from the Yakupov line tonight.

    Not good enough at all.

  179. Bling says:

    Also:

    Schultz over 24 minutes.

    Me no like.

  180. godot10 says:

    Woodguy:
    Watched Yak very closely for corsi leaks.

    He’s a head case in his own zone.

    On his off wing so is facing the boards with the puck often and can’t see his passing options.

    Off the boards/glass and out is pretty standard if he gets the puck standing still.

    Eakins shouldn’t have given in and put him back on the right side, its contributing to killing his zone exit ability, and corsi.

    I had him at 0-6 on exits with possession when he had the puck in the dzone and stopped counting.

    If Gerta is right and they move Perron I wonder if they move Yak to the left?

    The Oilers have a head coach, an associate coach, and two assistant coaches. How hard is it to work with video with Yak of how other left-shot RW’s position their body to handle the puck and clear the D-zone with a pass or chip (whichever is more appropriate). Arguably, it seems they may be telling him just to put it off the glass and out, rather than trying to coach him.

    i.e. What you describe is a coaching problem. NOT a player problem.

  181. spoiler says:

    Rocknrolla:
    Thats a playoff team folks….We improved by the end, but they gotta get more shots on net.

    Did anyone else notice some good zone time, cycle time by gordons and Drais line, but no shots!

    No one in front, and nothing back to the point for a shot.

    More shots kids!

    There have been several shifts over the past 3-4 games where they have had great zone time and no shots. They are better than their Corsi numbers when it comes to zone possession. Unfortunately they are dead on their Corsi numbers when it comes to generating actual offense.

  182. spoiler says:

    Bling:
    Also:

    Schultz over 24 minutes.

    Me no like.

    That’s score effects. Petry was leading after the first.

  183. Stanley 2018 says:

    Let the trade rumors and coach firing talk begin! It’s one game, I suggest everybody waits to see how the Oilers react and adjust. Very young team, and this is the 1st season they really have a chance to learn how to win.
    Team got schooled tonight, but a loss like this jolts a player to learn, to be coached, and this year they have Ramsay to turn to for knowledge. Big difference.
    Next game vs Vancouver, will be interesting to see how they respond.

  184. spoiler says:

    Both Gazdic and Fasth have been cleared. Gazdic will travel with Fasth for a conditioning stint in OKC.

    Sounds like Gazdic might not draw in until there’s an injury.

  185. Halfwise says:

    Watching the Eakins post game Raw. Man, why can’t they hang a couple of mikes over the pack of reporters on the same feed as Eakins’ mike? Can’t make out the questions from most of the ink-stained wretches.

  186. Lowetide says:

    Marincin’s Corsi recovered, he and Fayne had an interesting night More on that tomorrow morning. some OKC boys had a big night tonight, I have an article scheduled for Oilers Nation probably tomorrow morning on Pakarinen.

  187. 9,998,383,750,001 says:

    spoiler:
    Both Gazdic and Fasth have been cleared. Gazdic will travel with Fasth for a conditioning stint in OKC.

    The way I heard it, Bachman will be reassigned tomorrow morning, and Gazdic is heading to OKC with Bachman not Fasth.

    As I see the first ten games, we’re about a 77–79 point team now. Much depends on continued improvement. A quarter turn adjustment in the calibration lug on Nuge’s wrist shot might be worth an additional two or three points all by itself.

  188. spoiler says:

    9,998,383,750,001: The way I heard it, Bachman will be reassigned tomorrow morning, and Gazdic is heading to OKC with Bachman not Fasth.

    As I see the first ten games, we’re about a 77–79 point team now.Much depends on continued improvement.A quarter turn adjustment in the calibration lug on Nuge’s wrist shot might be worth an additional two or three points all by itself.

    Yup sorry it was Bachman, the guy actually returning to OKC. Blonde moment.

  189. Woodguy says:

    godot10: The Oilers have a head coach, an associate coach, and two assistant coaches.How hard is it to work with video with Yak of how other left-shot RW’s position their body to handle the puck and clear the D-zone with a pass or chip (whichever is more appropriate).Arguably, it seems they may be telling him just to put it off the glass and out, rather than trying to coach him.

    i.e. What you describe is a coaching problem.NOT a player problem.

    I think a huge part of it is Yak facing the boards when he gets the puck.

    Can’t see his passing option or if he has a skating lane.

    When Eakins moved Yak to the left side last year you screamed about bad coaching iirc

    To me, moving him to the left side would be good coaching.

  190. tcho says:

    That first period was just textbook – how to beat the Oilers. Intense forecheck (I remember one sequence with an Oiler D with the puck behind the net, and all three Nash forwards just above the goal line, plus a Nash D around the hash marks), and put pressure on the back end. Edmonton doesn’t seem able to respond to that (coaching/systems or players). That kind of pressure should create vulnerabilities, but we don’t seem capable of exploiting them.

  191. cabbiesmacker says:

    Woodguy:

    Bob dropped an Ollie trade hint today. (not nearly enough for Perron)

    Too bad Oille wasn’t a cheap FA this summer.

    Wait a minute……..

    Too bad Volchenkov wasn’t as well……..Say What?

    Or that Ribiero wasn’t available either…..What the….

    Oh well. Rookie learns on the fly and Arco is…..well, Arco.

    Sigh

  192. gcw_rocks says:

    Woodguy: My worry is that he’s clearing space for Gazdic to get into the line-up.

    Nahh.

    They want to upgrade Arco’s spot.

    He’s not working worth a shit with Yak.

    Bob dropped an Ollie trade hint today. (not nearly enough for Perron)

    Too bad Oille wasn’t a cheap FA this summer.

    Wait a minute……..

    That would be so Oilers to pass on a player when all they cost is money, and instead pay assets for him two months later.

    If the oilers pay real assets for a centre of equivalent quality to what was available in the bargain bin this summer, MacT should be fired.

  193. russ99 says:

    Possession is nice but if all we’re going to do is cycle ad nauseum and never create space to get good scoring chances, we’re going to lose a lot of games against Western Conference teams.

  194. B S says:

    spoiler: That’s score effects. Petry was leading after the first.

    Or Petry was on for two goals against and Schultz was even on the night and Eakins was going with the Dman who wasn’t having a bad day.

  195. B S says:

    gcw_rocks,

    I thought the scuttlebutt when Ollie was signed was that the Oilers were one of the interested parties? If so then it’s hard to hold this one against management.

  196. gcw_rocks says:

    B S:
    gcw_rocks,

    I thought the scuttlebutt when Ollie was signed was that the Oilers were one of the interested parties? If so then it’s hard to hold this one against management.

    Ollie wasn’t the only bargain bin centre out there. And word is Broadziak could have been had for a late round pick. He would be much better than Ollie. I’m the summer the oilers had low cost options available, or could have traded someone else like Perron for a real centre, and done so at Perron ‘s peak value.

    They should need Ollie now. If they have to overpay to fix the problem that they should have fixed months ago, the GM should resign.

  197. SwedishPoster says:

    I think it was a pretty good hockey game. Nashville looked fantastic. Amazing D, they have guys on each pairing capable of elite plays , four solid lines and a great transition game. Don’t think we played awful, Preds was stronger but we were in it in a very high paced game.

    Yak and Arco are a really bad fit, completely opposite players. Arco always look for the simple play, by the book sort of, very little “gut feeling plays” whereas Yak is the total opposite always thinking on his feet and incredibly unorthodox.
    Still Yak managed three shot, his linemates 0 shots and none of Yaks shots were set up by Pouliot or Arco from what I recall. Yak’s not the issue on that line.

    I think Schultz is getting too much crap. I think he’s been perfectly fine defensively so far this season, has had some stellar defensive plays almost every game, against the Habs he had two when the boys messed up on the PP that were excellent and he’s started to add his offense for the last few games. Alongside Fayne our most consistent D-man so far imo, I know I’ll get jumped on for giving props to Schultz but just my humble opinion. And I’m perfectly fine with him having the most minutes in a game where we’re chasing. Yeah, that’s right I said it. Newcomer and all.

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