OILERS AT STARS, G22 2014-15

I’m so very tired of the season being over in the fall. It’s exhausting, and worst of all the games take a backseat to the transactions talk. Which is fine at the deadline, death in November. The Chicago Cubs are not to be copied, who tries this? Argh. And the early rumors are ghastly, including an entire story by Matty that angries up the blood on first (and every other) reading. That’s an ugly deal, and makes me think that keeping your powder dry might be the best plan at this time.

IT’S THE WORLD GONE CRAZY!!!!!

  • Elliotte Friedman: “Ryan Nugent-Hopkins isn’t going to get traded. They need their centres. They need more of them and he’s Edmonton’s No. 1 centre. He’s not going anywhere. It’s hard to imagine the type of deal that would be required to include Taylor Hall in an Oilers trade. But it’s not impossible. And then you go from that level to the next level with Jordan Eberle. I think that there’s a possibility that Jordan Eberle could get traded. I think there’s a possibility that Justin Schultz could be included in something. David Perron is obvious. But what are you getting, with all due respect to David Perron, in return? You’re getting something, but you’re probably not getting a No. 2 centre, which they desperately need.” Source

Incredible. Absolutely incredible. The only ways trading Taylor Hall makes sense? You’re trading for a better player and the list isn’t a long one, ladies. OR the owner has stepped in and plans to overhaul the front office, with a total rebuild as the game plan. If Craig MacTavish is accepting calls on Taylor Hall, the sky has turned from grey to black.

moneyball

  • Ray Ferraro: “If they didn’t keep rushing 18 and 19 year olds into their lineup, what would their model look like?”

Ferraro looks like a freaking genius compared to the rest of the men television throws at us every day, mostly because he doesn’t pull punches and (best of all) he seems to have something under his skin in regard to the Oilers. If you hear Ferraro is going to talk about the Oilers in five minutes, pull over and listen. Straight talk, no filter. He’s pissed. I love it.

dreger eberleIf Eberle fetches only Berglund, then clearly you don’t trade Jordan Eberle. However, trading one of the wingers is the right call and the Oilers have a nice group to choose from in a deal. I would rank the order of available wingers (if Eberle is truly available) as Eberle, Perron, Yakupov, Purcell at this time. As Yakupov and Purcell aren’t going to have enough value to move the needle, it comes down to Perron and Eberle. I don’t think they’re going to trade Jordan Eberle.

  • Elliotte Friedman: “I think changes are in the works. I do. I heard that yesterday was a pretty intense day (Sunday) for the Oilers management.  But what I do think is that Craig MacTavish has promised he will make a trade before he fires the coach. That’s what guys have told me. And I think that’s what his plan remains. And I wonder if Edmonton is kind of now listening on everybody . Doesn’t mean anything is going to happen. But I think they’re listening on players they weren’t listening on as recently as 36 hours ago.”

So, let’s add up what we know: MacT is going to make a trade before he fires a coach, the Perron value may not satisfy the need for a center, Eberle’s name is crawling into the conversation. Huh. Sean Couturier? I sure as hell wouldn’t move Eberle for Berglund, Eller, et al. If they’re trading Eberle, a quality center has to be coming back in return. I honestly thought this season would turn out differently, and frankly trading Eberle runs counter to the idea of the Hall cluster, but I can see it happening.

I don’t think it happens now, though. Too big a deal to make mid-season. Something to look for in the summer.

IF NOT EBERLE, WHO?

David Perron. Justin Schultz. And I know you don’t like it, but the first-round pick in 2015. If you’re trying to improve the team this season, and that’s what MacT is trying to do, then future assets are the currency you want to deal in. Draft picks, prospects, that kind of thing.

IS THIS HAPPENING AGAIN AGAIN?

The Oilers play tonight in their own personal death valley, and then the schedule gets tougher. We are here. Again. The talk of trading Hall may already signal it’s too late to avoid burning it down. When we’re talking about trading Taylor Hall, we may be talking about a full blown rebuild. Again. It may mean Bob Nicholson in front of the microphones, introducing the modern Craig Patrick (often NHL-aided, these men come with impeccable reputations and generally do the heavy work in short order) and we’ll find out the name of our Jim Nill at some point before the draft. I hope it doesn’t happen that way. If we’re talking Taylor Hall leaving town, it’s a possibility. The world has not blessed us with an owner who speaks, and we are left to our own imaginations. At this point, anything is possible, but it doesn’t have to be this way.

The Edmonton Oilers are struggling, they are not close to being a lost cause. Pull up your boots, Craig MacTavish. The Chicago game should not be fuel to do anything rash, and this organization is in its current state because of emotional trades by the last two GMs. Keep your powder dry, sir. Your next step will very likely define you as a GM. Let it not be ‘is it me?’ and let it not be ‘we’ve signed Cam Barker’ and for crying out loud let it not be ‘we’ve traded Taylor Hall.’

If there is no open door today, let it be. That damn Chinese proverb is strangling the organization.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

5th element

TSN 1260, 10 this morning. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, Cult of Hockey and Oilers Nation. Jon will bring his logic and reason to a potentially crazy day.
  • Guy Flaming, Pipeline Line. Dustin Schwartz, and Greg Chase landing in Victoria.
  • Travis Yost, TSN. We’ll talk Oilers trades, Senators, and the Buffalo Bills.
  • Andrew Bucholtz, 55-yard line. Grey Cup, CFL free agency, Reilly’s injuries.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide_ and would love to hear from you during open line. See you on the radio!

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  1. danny says:

    pboy:
    Pretty simple for Eakins. Throw 13, 20 & 23 out there when Garbutt gets out of the box and have a little line brawl. He won’t do it but he should.

    A hot seat coach on an extended losing streak would never have the guts to do that… Ironically it’s probably the only way to get oilers fans back on his side.

  2. OilClog says:

    godot10: No, have one of the three run Seguin accidentally on purpose.

    He’ll win me back as coach if he does both!

  3. The Great Gazoo says:

    Kitchener:
    pboy,

    Eakins needs a win more than a moral victory tonight.

    Dallas’ Eakins or Dallas Eakins?

  4. RexLibris says:

    Given our earlier discussion about players in front of the net, I’m seeing more of it this evening, at least of late, than in previous games that I recall.

  5. anonymous says:

    Wonder where Eakins is going with his coaching strategy with Yak.

    Says nice things yet never let’s him get any consistent ice time and most of what he does get is with weaker linemates.

    Oh yeah, he’s full of shit.

  6. Kitchener says:

    I know I’m not supposed to be cheering for McDavid, but the lure of another 1OV is like a sip of scotch after a year off.

  7. pboy says:

    It’s sad how little ice time Yak gets even though he’s working hard to make the changes asked of him and to see how much ice Schultz sees. That’s on the coach folks.

  8. danny says:

    I’d trade Eberle before Perron.

    Ebs has better market value, and a higher salary. Perron is an old school skill guy. Lock him up at 5M per over 6 years?

  9. geowal says:

    That would have been oiler karma: fail to face punch Garbutt, Garbutt scores on rush

  10. cc says:

    TireFire: Rewind it 10 seconds.You’ll see the play described.

    Thanks for the 10 second rewind confirmation. Purcell was weak-side winger at was caught just standing along the boards. When he saw Seguin he panicked and rushed to where he was supposed to be. Petry was trying to cover for him as he was doing for Ference the whole second period.

  11. pboy says:

    What the fuck have Purcell and Schultz done to be on the ice at the end of the game?

  12. frjohnk says:

    My prediction.

    Oilers lose.
    SN goes to flames game.
    Flames come back and win.

    I yell at tv

  13. geowal says:

    Schultz even lollygags the play setup

  14. OilClog says:

    Arcos shot earlier proved Yak can stay on the bench. Come on guys, Yaks a bum.

  15. TireFire says:

    cc: Thanks for the 10 second rewind confirmation.Purcell was weak-side winger at was caught just standing along the boards.When he saw Seguin he panicked and rushed to where he was supposed to be.Petry was trying to cover for him as he was doing for Ference the whole second period.

    Nope. People were after Petry for the awful, awful pass that lead to the turnover and the inability of the other players to recover positioning after his turnover.

  16. godot10 says:

    pboy:
    What the fuck have Purcell and Schultz done to be on the ice at the end of the game?

    Eakins has never seen the video of Yakupov’s late goals for Krueger to tie games. Triathlon training takes time you know.

    Even after 100 games of power play futility, I doubt that he has looked at the video.

  17. OilClog says:

    danny:
    I’d trade Eberle before Perron.

    Ebs has better market value, and a higher salary. Perron is an old school skill guy. Lock him up at 5M per over 6 years?

    Id give Perron 16 over 4, maybe 20 at 5 but no more, that hip won’t last the contract. So Id try to stay at 4 years.

  18. cc says:

    Seguin 2 – Hall 1. Just like the draft.

  19. Captain's Log says:

    So yet again the difference in this game was two easy goals. Seguin open in the slot and then free for the breakaway. Tired of gifting teams Grade-AAA scoring opportunities

  20. hunter1909 says:

    Good thing they lost. Otherwise, MacT gives Eakins another 10 games to “turn things around”.

  21. Bling says:

    Good effort from the Oilers tonight.

    Seguin was the difference, man what a finisher here is.

    Hall really stepped up his game in the 3rd period, as did RNH/Ebs.

    Sucks to lose again, but can’t fault the effort level.

  22. hunter1909 says:

    OilClog: Id give Perron 16 over 4, maybe 20 at 5 but no more, that hip won’t last the contract. So Id try to stay at 4 years.

    Are you serious? Perron resigns?

  23. TireFire says:

    Bling:

    Sucks to lose again, but can’t fault the effort level over certain small stretches of the total game .

    FTFY.

  24. OilClog says:

    Pinzotto, Hendricks, Gazdic all on the bench. Hall still getting treated however the other team wants.

    Why are they here?

    Why in the good lord is Schultz and Nikitin a thing.. Especially when trying to tie the game?!?

    Sorry Corsi was good, progress!

  25. OilClog says:

    hunter1909: Are you serious? Perron resigns?

    Maybe he decides he can be the French accent of sweeping change..

    Never know.

    We could win a game too! Strange things happen

  26. danny says:

    Yak / Eakins reminds me of Melrose / Stamkos.

  27. Ben says:

    Ok – horrible hypothetical time:

    Hall asks out.

    What can they realistically get for him (top 3 LW in the game)? Go.

  28. OilClog says:

    danny:
    Yak / Eakins reminds me of Melrose / Stamkos.

    Tampa fans are lucky, all 7 of them. Pricks

  29. OilClog says:

    Ben:
    Ok – horrible hypothetical time:

    Hall asks out.

    What can they realistically get for him (top 3 LW in the game). Go.

    Malkin

  30. anonymous says:

    Eakins and Mact are old school grinders. No respect for skill.

    You spend a first overall on an offence first player and before he’s able to get his game going you make him change his game and staple him to the bench. During lost seasons to boot.

    Meanwhile the “core” have free reign with no accountability.

    Things will never get better with this team until there’s a real reset.

    The oilers are the new new York islanders. Except the islanders were never this bad. Maybe Fasth should retire and Katz can make him G.M.

  31. Ben says:

    Aaron Ward ‏@TSNAaronWard 3m3 minutes ago
    One of the trade options EDM is looking at for David Perron is with Columbus Blue Jackets.EDM focus maybe on center Artem Anisimov. #TSN

    I’d do this.

  32. blainer says:

    Zero’s across the board for Filatov again tonight…

  33. Pouzar says:

    blainer:
    Zero’s across the board for Filatov again tonight…

    Ouch.

  34. Pouzar says:

    Ben:
    Aaron Ward ‏@TSNAaronWard3m3 minutes ago
    One of the trade options EDM is looking at for David Perron is with Columbus Blue Jackets.EDM focus maybe on center Artem Anisimov. #TSN

    I’d do this.

    CBJ has to look to next year and that is a good move for them with RJ, Dub, and Jenner down the middle. Good hockey trade. Won’t happen.

    Oh and that Wennberg kid as well.

  35. blainer says:

    Pouzar: Ouch.

    Yup.. I’m in the minority but I have never been high on Yak. Blame the coach all you want but I just don’t see an nhl player there let alone a 1st OV. I was hoping he might be but my gut looks right. I said keep an open mind til at least the 20 game mark.. Enough said I guess.. Sad to see..

  36. Woodguy says:

    Ben:
    Aaron Ward ‏@TSNAaronWard3m3 minutes ago
    One of the trade options EDM is looking at for David Perron is with Columbus Blue Jackets.EDM focus maybe on center Artem Anisimov. #TSN

    I’d do this.

    I’ve been pimping that trade for a long time.

    Perfect trade for the Oilers.

    I bet it gets done during TC if Johanssen doesn’t balk at signing and Dubinsky doesn’t need abdominal surgery.

    Writing was on the wall for Perron as soon as they signed Pouliot.

  37. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Pouzar: CBJ has to look to next year and that is a good move for them with RJ, Dub, and Jenner down the middle.

    Do you mean Columbus built up the middle? Why haven’t the Oilers thought of that?

  38. Pouzar says:

    Aaron Portzline @Aportzline · 13m 13 minutes ago
    Hearing chatter that a deal between #CBJ and #Oilers is well along in the process. @TSNAaronWard mentions Perron and Anisimov as likely

  39. PunjabiOil says:

    How are Anisimov’s advanced stats?

    Just wish they used draft picks to acquire that C rather than giving up a quality player (3rd best winger) in getting that C.

    AA has an extra year on the contract versus Perron.

  40. fifthcartel says:

    Anisimov looks legit by all accounts, right?

  41. Pouzar says:

    Matthew Ross ‏@MatthewWords 5m5 minutes ago
    On #TSN690 right now, we’re talking to @TheFourthPeriod “Oilers are VERY close to a trade, it’ll happen as early as late night/in morning.”

  42. Pouzar says:

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago
    See @TSNAaronWard’s timeline for details. Perron and Anisimov primary names mentioned but others are also apparently being discussed.

  43. Ben says:

    Woodguy:

    I bet it gets done during TC if Johanssen doesn’t balk at signing and Dubinsky doesn’t need abdominal surgery.

    This makes too much sense.

    If true, it’s an absolutely amazing repetition of last year’s start. Waiting for the C lineup to resolve while the goaltending goes AWOL for the first 30 games. Incredible. MacT must have battery acid in his veins.

  44. Pouzar says:

    PunjabiOil:
    How are Anisimov’s advanced stats?

    Just wish they used draft picks to acquire that C rather than giving up a quality player (3rd best winger) in getting that C.

    AA has an extra year on the contract versus Perron.

    Decent last year and more impressive in a smaller sample size this year. The Player usage charts show him as a big blue bubble in the shut down quadrant.

  45. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Would everyone here be happy with a Hall for Johansen swap?

  46. Jon K says:

    Love Anisimov. It would sting to lose Perron but we’d be happy with the return, in my opinion.

  47. Pouzar says:

    Jon K:
    Love Anisimov. It would sting to lose Perron but we’d be happy with the return, in my opinion.

    UFA after next year?

  48. PunjabiOil says:

    Looks like both AA and Perron UFAs after next season.

  49. Ben says:

    Would love if they could round this out with Schultz/Tyutin..

  50. Oddspell says:

    Ben:
    Would love if they could round this out with Schultz/Tyutin..

    I would kiss MacT. Wouldn’t be surprised to see either Schultz or Petry (hopefully Schultz) gone in the same deal to get another piece back. Hopefully we’re trying to kill two (three?) birds tonight and you’re on the money. How much brand power does the infamous Schultz name still carry?

  51. The Great Gazoo says:

    Ben:
    Would love if they could round this out with Schultz/Futures

    ftfy

  52. OilClog says:

    I’d even trade jultz for Johnson at this point lol

  53. Pouzar says:

    Ben:
    Would love if they could round this out with Schultz/Tyutin..

    And take NN back too…keep the damn pick.

  54. TireFire says:

    Klima’s_Bucket:
    Would everyone here be happy with a Hall for Johansen swap?

    You’d have the hockey fans of both cities solidly behind that move. Both Columbus and Calgary that is.

  55. Woodguy says:

    fifthcartel:
    Anisimov looks legit by all accounts, right?

    He’s dreamy.

  56. AZOIL says:

    Long description but good details on AA

    NO. 42 ARTEM ANISIMOV
    Age: 26
    Role: Center, 2nd or 3rd line
    Signed through: 2015-16 (then an unrestricted free agent)
    Salary cap: $3.28 million
    Rear view mirror: Anisimov set career marks in goals (22), game-winning goals (5) and average ice time per game, drawing 16:35. He finished with 22-17-39 and a minus-2 rating in 81 games. … The Blue Jackets mostly use Anisimov as their third-line center — a luxury, really — and boost his minutes on special teams. Anisimov was one of three Blue Jackets players — along with forward Brandon Dubinsky and defenseman Jack Johnson — to average more than two minutes per game on both the power play and penalty kill. … Anisimov missed a March 12 game vs. San Jose to be with his wife for the birth of the couple’s first child. Otherwise, he would have played a full 82-game schedule for the third time in his career. … Set a franchise record with game-winning goals in three straight games: 3/1 vs. Florida; 3/3 vs. Toronto and 3/4 vs. Dallas.
    What’s ahead: Anisimov will continue in much the same role — third-line center, with plenty of special teams play — unless center Ryan Johansen (restricted free agent) remains unsigned, in which case Anisimov and Dubinsky would move up in the lineup and winger Boone Jenner would possibly switch from wing to center. … Really, the Blue Jackets haven’t defined Anisimov’s line as the checking line. It is expected to check, and often takes the ice against one of the opponent’s top two lines. But coach Todd Richards doesn’t match lines every night; mostly he rolls his own, which is the luxury of having depth at center. … Anisimov has arms that are almost cartoonishly long, and he uses those extended appendages to be a very disruptive player defensively. No surprise he led the Blue Jackets with 51 takeaways during the regular season. His long reach forces puck-carriers to reconsider their passing angles and move the puck one-tenth of a second quicker than they’d planned. He is also adept at using his reach to leverage position along the wall and coming into corners. … If Johansen is signed in time for the start of the regular season, the Blue Jackets’ top nine forwards are fairly well established. But good guess picking Anisimov’s partners. Matt Calvert and Nick Foligno seem the odds-on favorite heading into camp, but this situation could be fluid all season. Maybe Cam Atkinson fits in there somewhere. … If Anisimov shot the puck more often, he could approach 25-28 goals per season. He took exactly two shots per game last season, which is too few given the shot he possesses. His reach gives him a deceptive shot, including a mind-bending short-range roofer. … If you don’t expect too much from Anisimov, you won’t be let down. But there are fleeting moments every 10-12 games or so – a snapshot of action when Anisimov appears sublimely skilled – that make you think he has something more to give.

  57. OilClog says:

    Anyone see wards twit about ebs no trade value…

    Classic Ward

  58. Hammers says:

    If Ansiminov who does he get on his wings . Top 6 Rnh Ebs & Purcell ; Ansiminov Hall & Yak; Bottom 6 are Gordon Arco Leon Hendricks ,Pinzotto Gazdic & Joensuu but how do you use them all. Seems there were a couple of guys asking for Ansiminov . My fear are the extra pieces from both teams and somehow expect Lander to be another part . Anyone like Leon playing / learning from Gordon and say Hendricks .

  59. fifthcartel says:

    I imagine they would call up Pakarinen if any winger was going out.

  60. Hammers says:

    fifthcartel:
    I imagine they would call up Pakarinen if any winger was going out.

    I agree but will Eakins & McT .

  61. "Frank The Dog" says:

    Woodguy: He’s dreamy.

    So MacT is actually considering a trade that would improve this team?

  62. Lowetide says:

    Hall-Nuge-Eberle
    Pouliot-Anisimov-Yakupov
    Pakarinen-Arcobello-Purcell
    Hendricks-Gordon-Pinizzotto/Joensuu

  63. dangilitis says:

    Lowetide:
    Hall-Nuge-Eberle
    Pouliot-Anisimov-Yakupov
    Pakarinen-Arcobello-Purcell
    Hendricks-Gordon-Pinizzotto/Joensuu

    But LT you forgot Draisatl… oh….
    Jokes aside, until Poluiot comes back, do you keep Draisaitl on the wing? Logic says no, but they have no winger depth all of a sudden.

  64. Lowetide says:

    dangilitis: But LT you forgot Draisatl… oh….
    Jokes aside, until Poluiot comes back, do you keep Draisaitl on the wing? Logic says no, but they have no winger depth all of a sudden.

    Honestly, I might keep him anyway. Man he looked good tonight.

  65. dangilitis says:

    Lowetide: Honestly, I might keep him anyway. Man he looked good tonight.

    So you would have him play Pouliot’s position then kick down Pakarinen when Pouliot returns? My only issue with this is that if we are going to waste a development year, should he not be the 3rd line center with Arco moved to the wing? Otherwise he is getting most of his NHL experience this year out of position (cue the comments)

  66. Oddspell says:

    dangilitis,

    I don’t think a center playing their first couple seasons on the wing is a bad thing. In my mind you want to make sure he is up to speed and can handle the NHL game before you start putting him in crucial positions. Winger is the position of least risk to break in to the big league in.

  67. PaperDesigner says:

    Lowetide: Honestly, I might keep him anyway. Man he looked good tonight.

    My read on Draisaitl has been that he is smart enough for the NHL (he rarely gets embarrassed), but too slow for the NHL, and by that I don’t mean foot speed, which seems adequate. Namely, he simply doesn’t read the play fast enough to scoot to where he needs to be on the forechecking, in the offensive zone to receive a pass and in the defensive zone to cover his man. Because he is never going to be a speed demon, he needs to constantly make reads that allows him to go full tilt to whatever tiny bit of open space the NHL allows.

    Tonight was the first time I saw him play such a game.

    It might be a one-off, but after that, I definitely want to see more, and he might make the decision interesting by the 40 game mark even if the rumoured Perron/Anisimov swap goes down.

  68. SwedishPoster says:

    If we maybe send one of our lesser D-prospects and something like 4th/5th rounder along with Perron for Anisimov we might get a hold of columbus 2nd rounder as well which could then be traded alongside our own 2016 2nd rounder(I’d keep our 2nd this year considering it looks to be a top 35 pick in a great draft) to St Louis for Berglund. Suddenly our C depth looks prertty damn good. Both Berglund and Anisimov have played a bit on the wing, as has Arco and Draisaitl, so if it gets crowded there are options.

  69. Bank Shot says:

    PaperDesigner: My read on Draisaitl has been that he is smart enough for the NHL (he rarely gets embarrassed), but too slow for the NHL, and by that I don’t mean foot speed, which seems adequate. Namely, he simply doesn’t read the play fast enough to scoot to where he needs to be on the forechecking, in the offensive zone to receive a pass and in the defensive zone to cover his man. Because he is never going to be a speed demon, he needs to constantly make reads that allows him to go full tilt to whatever tiny bit of open space the NHL allows.

    Tonight was the first time I saw him play such a game.

    It might be a one-off, but after that, I definitely want to see more, and he might make the decision interesting by the 40 game mark even if the rumoured Perron/Anisimov swap goes down.

    Draisaitl sucks and shouldn’t be in the NHL.

    That’s no fault of his own but playing him in the NHL this season is a disgrace.

  70. Woodguy says:

    fifthcartel:
    I imagine they would call up Pakarinen if any winger was going out.

    If Perron moves for Anisimov, I’d bet DrySaddle moves to LW.

  71. russ99 says:

    To me any Blue Jackets trade is more of the same.

    Howson’ bias clouding the scouting, just like with Nikitin.

    Don’t trust it….

  72. Ray says:

    Howsen: the price of Ryan Johansen is Eberle!
    Davidson: Scott, I don’t think so
    Howsen: damit but if I want to trade Johansen I can
    Davidson: Scott I fired you a long while ago, you work for the Oilers now
    Howsen: the price of Johansen is Eberle!
    Davidson: goodbye Scott I hope you get the help you need

  73. Nightman_ says:

    If this year is lost…
    Does it make sense to leave the hole at center and trade for a top pairing D with the depth at center? Draisaitl will probably develop quicker than our d prospects, and everyone needs to again be pushed a peg down on the defensive depth chart. To me, that seems like a bigger hole.

    But the problem in saying that is the defensive deployment. I’d first like to see what fayne looks like playing increased minutes first. Nevertheless, more quality is needed on defense. Nurse/klef/marincin can’t be expected to play Schultz’ minutes as rookies or sophomores.

    Alternatively, trade for a top pairing defenseman, and a serviceable 3 NHL center that plays elevated minutes with quality wingers.

  74. Kmart99 says:

    Draisaitl looked good. Yak looked good. But without the finish it just doesn’t matter.
    Send DRAI back to Jr. The season is lost. It couldn’t be more clear.

    Man, please let Katz line the pockets of the lottery maker, bring this undeserving franchise Connor McDavid.

  75. SwedishPoster says:

    Yep i’s time to see what Fayne can do with bigger minutes. Schultz failed the big minutes. Petry has gotten over 23 mins the last two and has faltered with two awful games so now let’s see what Fayne can do with it.

    I noticed something with Yak last night, he had some issue getting out of the defensive zone from his off side at the start of the season but last night he looked much, much better in that regard. He’s just learning as the season goes, seems like a great student. Which begs the question why he came so raw, likely due to his natural tools being so exceptional he was just told to do his thang and not bother too much.

  76. Yeti says:

    Woodguy: If Perron moves for Anisimov, I’d bet DrySaddle moves to LW.

    Would you prefer that, or to bring Pitlick up from the farm and send Dray to junior?

  77. Woodguy says:

    Yeti: Would you prefer that, or to bring Pitlick up from the farm and send Dray to junior?

    I think Saddle is good enough to play a sheltered wing role.

    Saddle – Arco – PUrcell is ok in the sheltered minutes that X-Saddle-Yak are getting right now.

    I wouldn’t mind Pitlick either.

    If Saddle can skate fast enough to get on the forecheck I’m ok with it.

    He shows flashes.

    If not, send him down and bring up Pitlick (or whoever is kicking out the most jams in OKC)

  78. PhrankLee says:

    That presser was the first time I have ever heard DE concede that Justin Schultz’ play was “unacceptable”. Now that’s some real progress. But maybe he was crushed by the benching and will be on disability for PTSD and open a litigious case for workplace harassment. I just think this kid is a free loader.

  79. Woodguy says:

    PhrankLee,

    I just think this kid is a free loader.

    Free loader.

    Awesome.

    Goes well with lollygagger and moseyer.

  80. sliderule says:

    You could trade for Crosby and the oil would have to out score the opposition with the goaltending they have.

    I can’t remember the last time the oil scored on a long floater from outside the blueline.

    When you sign backups as your only option. you are gambling that their save percentages were not created by the soft starts most backups get.

    You can get a Bishop but more likely you get a Scrivens or Fasth

  81. leadfarmer says:

    For the proposed CBJ trade the Oilers lose that trade, but they put themselves into a corner where they have to make a trade and the vultures are circling. At least Anisimov can help make sure Gordon’s back doesnt break before the end of the year.

  82. "Frank The Dog" says:

    Woodguy:
    PhrankLee,

    I just think this kid is a free loader.

    Free loader.

    Awesome.

    Goes well with lollygagger and moseyer.

    or he’s just become enigmatic and Dallas just spotted his sideburns.

  83. Yeti says:

    Woodguy,

    Yes. Freeloader is a great term. But it makes me feel kind of blue.

  84. russ99 says:

    PhrankLee:
    That presser was the first time I have ever heard DE concede that Justin Schultz’ play was “unacceptable”.Now that’s some real progress. But maybe he was crushed by the benching and will be on disability for PTSD and open a litigious case for workplace harassment.I just think this kid is a free loader.

    Kind of funny, it’s Eakins that put him there. We had a malleable young asset with undoubted skill and a after year of The Swarm and “hit everyone each shift”; and this years’ tire fire that is Schultz out there 20 minutes a night with Ference and Nikitin who can’t skate, forcing Schultz to do the hard work in front of the net, this is what we get.

    I admit, he’s a broken player right now, but Eakins is the one who broke him. At least he’s finally out there with Marincin and their ice time got cut last night. Hope it keeps up. A night off or two would also help.

    $20 says he takes off when Eakins is inevitably axed and the yoke that’s been put on the dynamic players on this team is finally lifted.

  85. 8p0intgame says:

    Would anybody do Eberle + Perron for Anisimov + Johannson? It would create a gaping hole on the right wing but the Oilers centre depth would be Nugent-Hopkins-Johannson-Anisimov-Gordon-Draisaitl-Acrobello afterward.

  86. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Woodguy: I’ve been pimping that trade for a long time.

    Perfect trade for the Oilers.

    I bet it gets done during TC if Johanssen doesn’t balk at signing and Dubinsky doesn’t need abdominal surgery.

    Writing was on the wall for Perron as soon as they signed Pouliot.

    Glad you’ve come around!

    In the summer you were quite unenthused about such a trade. IIRC you didn’t rate Anisimov ahead of Arco.

  87. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Freeloader is fantastic.

    Hippy would be pretty funny for the collection of concepts it conjures, but he’s not hairy enough.

  88. PhrankLee says:

    russ99: Kind of funny, it’s Eakins that put him there. We had a malleable young asset with undoubted skill and a after year of The Swarm and “hit everyone each shift”; and this years’ tire fire that is Schultz out there 20 minutes a night with Ference and Nikitin who can’t skate, forcing Schultz to do the hard work in front of the net, this is what we get.

    I admit, he’s a broken player right now, but Eakins is the one who broke him. At least he’s finally out there with Marincin and their ice time got cut last night. Hope it keeps up. A night off or two would also help.

    $20 says he takes off when Eakins is inevitably axed and the yoke that’s been put on the dynamic players on this team is finally lifted.

    russ99,

    I don’t see any yoke at all. I see 2 clear sets of rules on this team. Two tiers of teammates, if you will. This is the first results-oriented-feelings-be-damned-stop-fucking-up benching I have seen of the right guy. JS responsibility here is to give a soundbite acknowledging a lapse in judgement and support for his coach and regret to have let his team down. It is not what happens, it’s how we handle it that make us leaders. Justin is loosing this coach the room. Until last night. Many a game last year Eakins should have benched Eberle for ineffectual flyby one handed stick checks. Eberle should have sucked it up, joked with Principe’s mustache and showed the new kids how to handle it.

  89. Kmart99 says:

    What is right with this team?

    Nuge, Hall, Petry, Gordon

    … the rest is a mess

    This team does not have a 5 man combo that can consistently outplay its competition, and that is ridiculous.

    I’m just going to pretend that this is year 1 of the rebuild, so much easier this way.

    Narrative:

    Nurse and Klefbom could be the Keith and Seabrook.

    Hall, Nuge, Ebs are the veterans(Sharp, Versteeg, Ladd) that help bring in the new bloods McDavid & Draisaitl(Kane and Toews).

    not sure about the goalie part though…

  90. PhrankLee says:

    Romulus Apotheosis:
    Freeloader is fantastic.

    Hippy would be pretty funny for the collection of concepts it conjures, but he’s not hairy enough.

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Ha! I can just imagine his cubist apartment with all pillows no chairs. Listening to Ravi Shankar and smoking beadies on the patio. And cats. I bet he has cats.

  91. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    PhrankLee: Romulus Apotheosis,

    Ha! I can just imagine his cubist apartment with all pillows no chairs. Listening to Ravi Shankar and smoking beadies on the patio.And cats. I bet he has cats.

    Him and RNH were learning guitar last year!

    But, their heroes are pretty weak tea. I don’t get the fascination hockey players have for pop country.

  92. Yeti says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    I can’t believe you missed a good jazz reference. You’re miles off base with this one.

  93. rickithebear says:

    Woodguy: I think Saddle is good enough to play a sheltered wing role.

    Saddle – Arco– PUrcell is ok in the sheltered minutes that X-Saddle-Yak are getting right now.

    I wouldn’t mind Pitlick either.

    If Saddle can skate fast enough to get on the forecheck I’m ok with it.

    He shows flashes.

    If not, send him down and bring up Pitlick (or whoever is kicking out the most jams in OKC)

    Part of any forward structure is choosing Goal scoring forwards over Assit forwards.
    the assist forward is still dependent on the finish of another.
    The repeated emphasis of Even goal generation.

    [post 12-13 lockout EVG rank] – (rank this year)
    Hall [23] (25)
    Eberle [27] (130)
    Perron [53] (200)
    Anisimov [53] (200)
    RNH [91] (45)
    Arco [-] (83)
    Pouliot [110] (130)
    Yakupov [141] (130)
    Purcell [186] (200)
    gordon [230] (200)
    hendricks [280] (200)

    What is clear is Perron for Anisimov is a straight across EVG trade.
    keeping Perron and getting Anisimov would be way better.

    Fwds showing an upper 2nd EVG scoring ability
    Hall-Anisimov-XXX
    Pouliot-RNH-Eberle
    XXX-Arco-XXX

    Goal differential forwards.
    Pakiranen 5Gm +.20GD/GM
    Hall 16Gm Even
    Gordon 22gm -.09GD/gm
    Pinizotto 10gm -.10GD/gm
    Eberle 21gm -.14GD/gm
    RNH 20gm -.15GD/gm plus last 16 games
    Pouliot 20gm -.15GD/gm plus last 16 games
    Arcobello 22gm -.18GD/gm -7 last 12gm
    Hendricks 22gm -.23 GD/gm even last 9gm
    ———————————————————-
    Yak 22gm -.41GD/gm
    Perron 22gm -.50GD/gm
    Purcell 22gm -.64GD/gm

    Hall-Anisimov-XXX
    Pouliot-RNH-Eberle
    XXX-Arco-XXX
    Hendricks-Gordon-Pinizotto

  94. russ99 says:

    PhrankLee: russ99,

    I don’t see any yoke at all. I see 2 clear sets of rules on this team. Two tiers of teammates, if you will. This is the first results-oriented-feelings-be-damned-stop-fucking-up benching I have seen of the right guy. JS responsibility here is to give a soundbite acknowledging a lapse in judgement and support for his coach and regret to have let his team down. It is not what happens, it’s how we handle it that make us leaders. Justin is loosing this coach the room. Until last night. Many a game last year Eakins should have benched Eberle for ineffectual flyby one handed stick checks. Eberle should have sucked it up, joked with Principe’s mustache and showed the new kids how to handle it.

    Bear with me for a minute:

    Just what could have been the harm for the first line, Yak and Schultz to be treated and play and progress the way that they did under Krueger?

    Sure there would have been mistakes, but they could have learned from them with a steady hand of actual coaching/veteran mentorship and not this my way or the highway/players vs, coaches nonsense we have now under Eakins. Btw: benchings would just reinforce that, not improve it.

    Then the rest of the team could have been constructed with veterans playing a more defense-first approach.

    There is a problem with lack of accountability, but all the icetime they’re getting is still under Eakins’ rigid systems that not only are innefective, but are counter to the way they had success in the past. And all of them (nice media quotes aside) are bristling under it.

    The way our forwards and our offensive defenseman have to play are killing their creativity and development. That’s the yoke. And MacT keeping Eakins to “not let the players win” is feeding it.

    The players want to score and win games, and to me management seems to be OK with losing as long as they break the players of that mentality.

    I know some of us here want the Keenan approach since all these guys are “soft”, but that 90s tough guy coach approach isn’t how things work nowadays.

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