NO. 12 PROSPECT (winter 2014) JACKSON HOUCK

In trying to find rugged players with skill, teams often have to decide between big men who struggle with the skill portion of the game and those who are skilled but average in size. Jackson Houck has skill—he was a successful offensive winger in the WHL at 17—but at 6.01, 195 is just average in the size department. He may push men like Tyler Pitlick and Mitch Moroz in the coming years for playing time in Edmonton’s bottom 6F. There is some evidence Houck’s offense will not be good enough to carry the day.

PREVIOUSLY NUMBER TWELVE ON THE LIST

  • December 2004: L Brad Winchester (390)
  • December 2005: C Kyle Brodziak (567)
  • December 2006: L Dragan Umicevic (0)
  • December 2007: D Alex Plante (10)
  • December 2008: G Jeff Deslauriers (62)
  • December 2009: G Devan Dubnyk (171)
  • December 2010: D Jeff Petry (262)
  • December 2011: G Olivier Roy (0)
  • December 2012: L Mitchell Moroz (0)
  • December 2013: C Mark Arcobello (69)

Three college men (Winchester, Petry, Arcobello) as well as a late late pick made good (Brodziak) and a meandering first-round goalie (Dubnyk). Looking back on some of these names (what in HELL did we call Dragan? Drogdon? God I can’t remember) it really drives home the idea that we (as fans) overrate prospects. If an NHL GM has a chance to acquire a useful actual player for a second-round pick, he should take it.

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WHAT THEY SAID ON DRAFT DAY

  • Corey Pronman: Houck entered this season known for his intangibles and physical play, and he added a scoring touch to his repertoire, leading the Giants in points. He has just average size, but he still displays notably above-average physical value, delivering big hits and winning a lot of battles through his effort. He has the heart and soul elements desirable in a good penalty killer. His offensive upside, however, draws some divide among scouts. One says he is very average, while another says his puck skills enable him to have potential in that area. He protects the puck well, drives the net, and has solid creativity. Skating will be his main issue. He plays with good energy, but he struggles to get to where he wants to go.
  • Redline Report:  Highly underrated! Showed leadership carrying his young team on both offence and defence following a major roster overhaul. Blossoming power winger uses size to establish and hold position around crease. Already tough to move off the puck and has a frame that could still add 20 pounds. Has a great understanding of how to lean on defenders and use his frame to separate them from the puck. Fearless and loves to initiate contact. Goes into traffic with speed and can clear out contested areas. Aggressive style draws defenders to him and opens up ice for ‘mates. Accurate, heads-up passer distributes well in role of setup man. He’s a 200-foot player who puts in the same tireless effort at both ends. Also a willing combatant who will take on anybody. Can change the momentum of a game with a big rush, big hit, or a big goal. Skating is the one knock – lacks initial explosion and top end gear.
  • Houck:I really like to watch [Milan] Lucic [of the Boston Bruins]. I like to watch him and [the Montreal Canadiens’ Brendan] Gallagher because Gallagher was my role model last year when he was with the Giants and I was a 16-year-old. Watching Lucic and Gallagher, knowing where they started [with the Giants] and seeing where there are now, tells you what’s possible. Lucic, he’s a fun player to watch, he’s physical. Gallagher, he works his bag off.”

POINTS BY DISCIPLINE, JACKSON HOUCK

PLAYER EV PP PK TOTAL
HOUCK 2012-13 WHL 69, 15-24-39 .565 69, 8-10-18 .261 69, 0-0-0 69, 23-34-57 .826
HOUCK 2013-14 WHL 69, 24-17-41 .594 69, 9-10-19 .275 69, 1-0-1 69, 34-27-61 .884
HOUCK 2014-15 WHL 28, 4-8-12 .429 28, 7-7-14 .500 28, 0-0-0 28, 11-15-26 .929

Houck’s overall offense has increased at 19 (age 17 and 19 seasons are the important ones) and his power-play number is a nice jump from one year ago. He’s struggling at even strength compared to a year ago, the Giants have recently made a coaching change (the entertaining Claude Noel) so this is an interesting time to follow him. It’s interesting to see the comparison between Houck, Pitlick and Moroz in their final junior seasons at even strength:

HOUCK AT EVENS, COMPARED TO PITLICK AND MOROZ

PLAYER EV PP TOTAL
PITLICK 2010-11 WHL 56 22-19-41 .732
MOROZ 2013-14 WHL 70 25-24-49 .700
HOUCK 2014-15 WHL 28 4-8-12 .429

The concern here is real. Pitlick didn’t score well in the AHL, Moroz isn’t scoring (early days) in the NHL and both players were solid even-strength options in their final junior seasons in the WHL. An interesting item to follow as the year rolls along.

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PREVIOUS TOP 20 RANKING

  • Summer 2013: 13
  • Winter 2013: 20
  • Summer 2014: 12
  • Winter 2014: 12

I think the ‘running in place’ implied by the stagnant ranking fits this player. Houck has seen some increase in offense but you’d much rather see that growth come from even-strength improvement.

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14-15

WHAT THEY’RE SAYING THIS YEAR

  • Lowetide, Summer 2014:  He is somewhat unique on the Oilers list in that he’s a bruiser with some reasonable boxcars. Definitely a player to watch.
  • Jackson Houck: I’m working on my skating, because the guys at the next level are going to be a lot faster and a lot stronger. I think lower body power and adding quickness in skating speed is important to improve on.” Source
  • Steve Ewen, Vancouver Province: He does look leaner, fitter. He’s only added two pounds to his 6-foot-1 frame from a year ago, checking in now at 195 pounds. The North Vancouver native maintains that Gallagher helped him “lose bad weight and gain good weight.” Source

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THE FUTURE

Jackson Houck’s offensive downturn in the WHL in his 19-year old season is a significant item. Don Hay left at the end of last season and now Claude Noel steps in, so this might be a case of the former head coach(es) not being able to figure out how to unleash the offense. Last season, the Giants were scoring 3.25 goals-per-game, the current team is at 3.00 goals-per game. Oilers fans who have seen the offensive struggles of Tyler Pitlick and the early drought for Mitchell Moroz should be aware that Houck to this point in the season has not been an effective EV scorer at age 19 in the WHL.

2013 NHL DRAFT

  • Darnell Nurse, No. 7 overall. Good arrows, already played 2 NHL games. A bright future ahead. No. 2 overall prospect.
  • Marco Roy, No. 59 overall. Injuries have impacted him since draft day. No. 11 overall prospect.
  • Bogdan Yakimov, No. 83 overall. Mammoth Russian progressing smartly. No. 4 overall prospect.
  • Anton Slepyshev, No. 88 overall. Slick Russian winger running in place in the KHL. Candidate for winter 20.
  • Jackson Houck, No. 94 overall. Even-strength scoring down significantly. No. 12 overall prospect.
  • Kyle Platzer, No. 96 overall. Emerging as a quality NHL prospect this year. No. 9 overall prospect.
  • Aidan Muir, No. 113 overall. Now in college, scoring a little. Candidate for winter 20.
  • Evan Campbell, No. 128 overall. Scoring well in college this year. Candidate for winter 20.
  • Ben Betker, No. 158 overall. Huge defender continues to progress. Candidate for winter 20.
  • Greg Chase, No. 188 overall. Signed a contract, strong camp, weird WHL season so far. No. 6 overall prospect.

Houck is the sixth player from the 2013 draft to make this winter’s top 20—an impressive total. The gap between Houck and Marco Roy at No. 11 is significant, and it’s almost completely associated with the even-strength offense. Houck’s number (.429 points-per-game) is lower than Tyler Pitlick and Mitch Moroz, two similar players from the WHL. A player like Roy—more skilled, perhaps not in line for the same job in pro—is running at .864 points-per-game at even strength, more in line with a legit NHL prospect at age 19 (Roy is three months older than Houck, also a factor).

There are lots of good arrows for Houck, but that point total 5×5 is something to watch for the rest of the season.

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51 Responses to "NO. 12 PROSPECT (winter 2014) JACKSON HOUCK"

  1. spoiler says:

    Hard to say what is going on there.

    Is he regressing?

    Is he facing tougher comp and struggling?

    Are linemates an issue? Role?

    Bad luck?

    Discovered heroin, girls, Jesus? In descending order of danger…

  2. Lowetide says:

    spoiler:
    Hard to say what is going on there.

    Is he regressing?

    Is he facing tougher comp and struggling?

    Are linemates an issue? Role?

    Bad luck?

    Discovered heroin, girls, Jesus?In descending order of danger…

    Yep. And it’s important not to overreact, these December looks are a snapshot. He could easily score a bunch at evens by Jan 31 and we’ll forget all about it.

  3. eidy says:

    I was curious where Houck (and Slepyshev) ended up on the list.

    Interesting numbers each year. Last year his goals went up significantly, but his assists fell off the map. This year for goals to assists split look better, but the puck is not finding the net at evens. I still think hopes he gets a contract. Wonder if he ends up as trade bait as the year continues with the giants at the bottom of the WHL standings.

    Also, Tkachev traded to the Remparts this weekend. I wonder why the trade occurred, but hope he ends up on a line with Roy to see what they can do together.

  4. elgruntus says:

    Dragan was “Trogdor, the Burninator.”..courtesy of the Homestar Runner series.

  5. Lowetide says:

    elgruntus:
    Dragan was “Trogdor, the Burninator.”..courtesy of the Homestar Runner series.

    Yes! Trogdor! That’s it. Thanks so much, it was driving me crazy.

  6. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Houck has had some weird stuff go on… He was basically alone on that team in his draft year and then last year he was… um… detained by the law for a bit to start the season, but managed to score a ton of goals (more than 30 right?)

    Then, this year he finds himself under a new coach and he may have seen his lines and assignments tripped up.

    At any rate, it is interesting to watch this unfold… last year I had Houck well ahead of Platzer, though I was pretty bullish on both (and I remain so).

    all very curious.

  7. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    So Houck is way down here still, and Moroz has yet to make an appearance. Seriously, who is going to take the fall for that reach pick? Or is Tambellini really just going to get blamed for everything?

  8. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”:
    So Houck is way down here still, and Moroz has yet to make an appearance. Seriously, who is going to take the fall for that reach pick? Or is Tambellini really just going to get blamed for everything?

    I really don’t understand the org’s reticence to send Moroz down to Bakersfield.

    He seems like the perfect candidate to polish his offensive skills against easier comp.

    What, exactly, is the point of buying an ECHL franchise if you aren’t going to use it?

  9. GCW_69 says:

    “As they (OKC Barons) ride high on an eight game win streak they continue to be the polar opposite version of the Edmonton Oilers in every possible way. High-achieving, high-shot-taking power play. Smart, agile penalty kill using 3/4 lines. Sneaky good five on five, and scoring throughout the lineup….”

    http://www.tendthefarm.com/okc-big-weekend-begin-eyeball-ahl-beauty-contest/

    le sigh….

  10. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11999785/phil-jackson-says-new-york-knicks-loser-mentality?ex_cid=espnapi_public

    I found this article interesting in that the Knicks obviously play basketball under a media microscope, the Oilers play hockey under one as well. Phil Jackson speaks to a “loser’s mentality,” whereas Oilers’ management has been unwilling to consider that as a very real threat to their jacks and kings and thus their whole rebuilding-at-a-glacial-pace plan.

  11. teddyturnbuckle says:

    For all of those who defend the Oiler scouts. When is the last time the Oilers drafted a…

    1. A number one centre man before Nuge? Arnott? Horcoff was a good second line centre.

    2. A number one goalie? Grant Fuhr, I think Joseph and Ranford were traded

    3. A number one Defenceman? I can’t recall.

  12. Derek says:

    Trogdor the burninator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gz1DIIxmEE

    I had to re-watch it after reading this post.

  13. RexLibris says:

    Romulus Apotheosis: I really don’t understand the org’s reticence to send Moroz down to Bakersfield.

    He seems like the perfect candidate to polish his offensive skills against easier comp.

    What, exactly, is the point of buying an ECHL franchise if you aren’t going to use it?

    I think Todd Nelson is a factor.

    MacTavish has probably asked and I’m left to assume that Nelson has told him to leave where he is, that he is seeing the right things from him.

    They sent Winquist down, and he was a free-agent addition, so maybe they’re just playing favourites by picking Stu’s man over Bob Green’s, but based on what we’ve seen from OKC so far, I’d say that MacTavish gives Nelson whatever he asks for – within reason.

    ….

    Hey, Todd, you know what you really need? A chaotic RD who doesn’t know what colour the puck is.

    For about four months.

    Maybe an Olympic defenseman to partner him with, too.

    Please?

  14. RexLibris says:

    teddyturnbuckle:
    For all of those who defend the Oiler scouts.When is the last time the Oilers drafted a…

    1. A number one centre man before Nuge?Arnott?Horcoff was a good second line centre.

    2.A number one goalie?Grant Fuhr, I think Joseph and Ranford were traded

    3. A number one Defenceman? I can’t recall.

    1. They don’t grow on trees and the Oilers weren’t drafting when those players were readily identifiable/available.

    2. Goalers are voodoo. Even the ones drafted high aren’t always true #1 goalies. I’d agree with “developed”, but “drafted” is another thing altogether.

    3. Heaven knows they’ve tried, but again, the Nashville Predators passed on Shea Weber twice, so these accusations could be leveled against quite a few organizations in addition to the Oilers.

    Drafting has been a problem for a long time. Development has been a problem for nearly as long.

    The Oilers are guilty of many things, but those items you mentioned are not due to lack of trying.

  15. RexLibris says:

    The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL":
    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11999785/phil-jackson-says-new-york-knicks-loser-mentality?ex_cid=espnapi_public

    I found this article interesting in that the Knicks obviously play basketball under a media microscope, the Oilers play hockey under one as well. Phil Jackson speaks to a “loser’s mentality,” whereas Oilers’ management has been unwilling to consider that as a very real threat to their jacks and kings and thus their whole rebuilding-at-a-glacial-pace plan.

    I take issue with this.

    Glaciers are now melting at a faster pace than this rebuild.

    Please retract your statement.

    😉

  16. treevojo says:

    eidy,

    Not too sure if this has any relevance regarding tkachev but I was at a moose heads game about a month ago against Moncton and he was sat for the whole third period in a one goal game. Kinda pissed me off cause he was one of the players I was there to watch.

  17. Lloyd B. says:

    treevojo,

    Let’s get real about Tkachev. He’s a tiny guy that caught lightning in a bottle in training camp. No team picked him through 7 rounds this year. If we can get him next year with a 7th round…OK…maybe. Better than a nondescipt BCHL plug…or not.

  18. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    RexLibris: I think Todd Nelson is a factor.
    MacTavish has probably asked and I’m left to assume that Nelson has told him to leave where he is, that he is seeing the right things from him.
    They sent Winquist down, and he was a free-agent addition, so maybe they’re just playing favourites by picking Stu’s man over Bob Green’s, but based on what we’ve seen from OKC so far, I’d say that MacTavish gives Nelson whatever he asks for – within reason.

    I think sending Winquist down was a pedigree thing. Moroz (being the 2nd rounder) has to get first crack at the AHL wingtime.

    But, you’ll note Winquist’s offence stayed with him in his turn to pro (23 points in 18 games) and he’s now been called up to the AHL and despite only playing 2 AHL games is tied with Moroz in points (1, ha!).

    It’s be nice to see some TOI reports for Moroz, but I can’t imagine he’s having a big enough impact to ignore the opportunity of strutting around the ECHL.

    At any rate, it will be interesting to see how MacT/Scott/Nelson handle those two players over the next two weeks. I wouldn’t be remotely surprised to see Moroz send down.

  19. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lloyd B.:
    treevojo,

    Let’s get real about Tkachev.He’s a tiny guy that caught lightning in a bottle in training camp.No team picked him through 7 rounds this year.If we can get him next year with a 7th round…OK…maybe. Better than a nondescipt BCHL plug…or not.

    Hahahahahahahahaha.

    This never gets old.

    Good parody of a “tiny guys can’t play” moron.

  20. RexLibris says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    That is a sound and entirely reasonable observation.

    I’m surprised you made it through the mod. (I kid!)

    I wonder if they’ll make a move based around the schedules, if they see Bakersfield hitting a heavy stretch and want to get him a lot of playing time over a short period that might be a time to target for reassignment.

    Btw, loving your pick Draisaitl.

    I like how he plays the game, protecting the puck, finding the trailer or just sending the puck into chaos in the blue paint to see if he can Plinko a goal. Smart kid, slick hands, modest and seems to have some good character.

  21. gr8one says:

    spoiler:

    Discovered heroin, girls, Jesus?In descending order of danger…

    Haha, love this…just great.

  22. Clay says:

    I’m actually surprised at the names on this #12 list. There’s three guys with 200+ NHL games, DD will most likely get there (but as a goalie, has well covered the equivalent of 200 games for a skater), and Arco has a real chance.

    That would mean a full 50% of the kids on this list had at least a moderately successful NHL career. For a poor team that historically drafts poorly, that seems like a pretty good percentage!

    Maybe it says more about you’re ability to rank prospects than it does about the prospects themselves LT? 😉

    I keed.

    Anyway, if the 12th best prospect in the organization makes it to 200 games on a regular basis, I’d be pretty happy with that.

  23. treevojo says:

    Lloyd B.,

    Not too sure where I stated anything about his ability. Just the fact he was one of the reasons I went to watch the game. Don’t get to too many so was excited to see what the little guy had. Looked pretty good but cheated for offense a lot. Not sure why he got benched for the third.

  24. Bank Shot says:

    Clay:
    I’m actually surprised at the names on this #12 list.There’s three guys with 200+ NHL games, DD will most likely get there (but as a goalie, has well covered the equivalent of 200 games for a skater), and Arco has a real chance.

    That would mean a full 50% of the kids on this list had at least a moderately successful NHL career.For a poor team that historically drafts poorly, that seems like a pretty good percentage!

    Maybe it says more about you’re ability to rank prospects than it does about the prospects themselves LT?

    I keed.

    Anyway, if the 12th best prospect in the organization makes it to 200 games on a regular basis, I’d be pretty happy with that.

    Oilers management should ask Lowetide to do a ranking of the top 20 prospects of all other NHL teams and then trade for all the #12s.

    Its found money.

  25. Zangetsu says:

    Have to admit its a shame moroz just doesn’t get the minutes in the NHL. I can’t even remember the last time I saw him hit the ice. It’s no wonder he isn’t scoring.

  26. jp says:

    treevojo:
    Lloyd B.,

    Not too sure where I stated anything about his ability. Just the fact he was one of the reasons I went to watch the game. Don’t get to too many so was excited to see what the little guy had. Looked pretty good but cheated for offense a lot. Not sure why he got benched for the third.

    Interesting that he cheated for offense so much (especially if that was the reason for his benching). Iirc all the pre-season reports noted his surprising commitment to defense (more so than his linemates much of the time).

  27. Lowetide says:

    The issue with Dubnyk in 2009? He was on his sixth winter list and was still a prospect. Took absolutely forever for him to arrive.

  28. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Lowetide:
    The issue with Dubnyk in 2009? He was on his sixth winter list and was still a prospect. Took absolutely forever for him to arrive.

    Goalers be goalering.

  29. Clay says:

    Bank Shot: Oilers management should ask Lowetide to do a ranking of the top 20 prospects of all other NHL teams and then trade for all the #12s.

    Its found money.

    Not a bad idea. Probably a healthy paycheck in it for LT, too.

    jp: Interesting that he cheated for offense so much (especially if that was the reason for his benching). Iirc all the pre-season reports noted his surprising commitment to defense (more so than his linemates much of the time).

    He picked up a case of the Jultz’s at Oiler camp?

  30. Clay says:

    Lowetide:
    The issue with Dubnyk in 2009? He was on his sixth winter list and was still a prospect. Took absolutely forever for him to arrive.

    Timmy Thomas thinks Dubey is an overnight sensation!

    Edit: crap, shoulda scrolled down. Rom’s is better.

  31. VanOil says:

    Are Tkachev and Marco Roy now on the same Ramparts team? Have one or both of them been traded to the Memorial Cup hosts?

  32. Lowetide says:

    VanOil:
    Are Tkachev and Marco Roy now on the same Ramparts team? Have one or both of them been traded to the Memorial Cup hosts?

    Yes, yes, yes, yes.

  33. Hammers says:

    Lowetide:

    Clay(Quote) (Reply)

    I thought the reason was we didn’t have an AHL team and many players like DD got loaned out so played less .

  34. VanOil says:

    Lowetide: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

    All I can add then is YES!

  35. treevojo says:

    jp,
    Maybe people taking notes on oilers games are so used to the cheating that tkachev looked like a defensive genius to them.

  36. VanOil says:

    Lecavalier can be had for 1/2 his wage/cap and a bucket of pucks. Is he better than Arco, Lander, a kid or a broken Gordon?

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20141208_Flyers__Lecavalier_trying_to_stay_positive.html

    Pouliot-Lecavalier-Purcell seems to me to be a 3d line that a Coach could trust. Last nights Gadzook-Arco-Pinizotto line was reminiscent of last year, an assault on the eyes.

  37. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    RexLibris: Btw, loving your pick Draisaitl.
    I like how he plays the game, protecting the puck, finding the trailer or just sending the puck into chaos in the blue paint to see if he can Plinko a goal. Smart kid, slick hands, modest and seems to have some good character.

    He’s hard to dislike.

    I just wish the Oilers would start opening their x-mas presents in late december instead of mid april.

  38. kooler says:

    VanOil,

    Cousin Vinnie for 4.5 over 3 years correct? Is he really done?

  39. VanOil says:

    kooler:
    VanOil,

    Cousin Vinnie for 4.5 over 3 years correct? Is he really done?

    He is done being worth 4.5M. He is done as a top 6 forward. But he if Philly keeps 1/2 his cap he might be OK as a #3 Center for a year or so then a buyout. Or Nitikin for Vinny + 2nd pick (to pay for the buyout after next year)

  40. VanOil says:

    Do the Oilers take a second Musil high in the 2nd round just to troll bloggers? Adam Musil ranked 32nd on Craig’s list.

    http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-december-ranking-mcdavid-and-eichel-on-even-terms-1.154887

  41. Kmart99 says:

    I keep peaking at Brad Hunt’s boxcars, then I tell myself ” Remember when he got walked every game?” So I tell nobody that deep down I’d like him to get another shot. I see his +/- at +8 but I haven’t watched any OKC games so I assume that +/- is luck and he is still worse defensively then Nikitin. But then I see today 21 pts in 14 games and wonder if maybe, just maybe he deserves one more shot. Like 3 EV mins/ period plus top PP mins… Idk anymore, he looked so bad when he was up here. Remember when Toffoli made him look so silly and we were all like “HE’S SPINNING IT ON HIS FINGER!” ?

  42. leadfarmer says:

    VanOil,

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure the buyout thing is over. You are now stuck with the contracts.

  43. frjohnk says:

    Kmart99:
    I keep peaking at Brad Hunt’s boxcars, then I tell myself ” Remember when he got walked every game?” So I tell nobody that deep down I’d like him to get another shot.I see his +/- at +8 but I haven’t watched any OKC games so I assume that +/- is luck and he is still worse defensively then Nikitin.But then I see today 21 pts in 14 games and wonder if maybe, just maybe he deserves one more shot.Like 3 EV mins/ period plus top PP mins… Idk anymore, he looked so bad when he was up here.Remember when Toffoli made him look so silly and we were all like “HE’S SPINNING IT ON HIS FINGER!” ?

    9 points on the PP.
    But NHL PKers are quite a bit better than AHL Pkers.

    His weaknesses are really magnified at the NHL level.
    small, gets pushed around
    cant skate well
    defensively is worse than Schultz ( now that’s bad!)
    he gives up the blue line pretty much on par with Nikitin ( now that’s bad!)

    NHL players are just too fast too big for this guy.
    Many offensive D men in the AHL over the years could not make the jump.

    Hunt’s a really good player to have in the AHL, but no higher.

  44. book¡je says:

    leadfarmer:
    VanOil,

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure the buyout thing is over.You are now stuck with the contracts.

    Compliance buyouts are done, but regular buyouts are still available.

  45. j says:

    frjohnk: 9 points on the PP.
    But NHL PKers are quite a bit better than AHL Pkers.

    His weaknesses are really magnified at the NHL level.
    small, gets pushed around
    cant skate well
    defensively is worse than Schultz ( now that’s bad!)
    he gives up the blue line pretty much on par with Nikitin ( now that’s bad!)

    NHL players are just too fast too big for this guy.
    Many offensive D men in the AHL over the years could not make the jump.

    Hunt’s a really good player to have in the AHL, but no higher.

    I agree. And this is no insult to the player. There are many levels of success when it comes to pro hockey. Hunt could have a 10 year career in Europe once his NHL quest comes to a conclusion. He is a perfect fit for that style of hockey. > $100K of tax free earnings sounds like a pretty good way to spend your 20s/early 30s.

  46. rickithebear says:

    VanOil: Pouliot-Lecavalier-Purcell seems to me to be a 3d line that a Coach could trust. Last nights Gadzook-Arco-Pinizotto line was reminiscent of last year, an assault on the eyes.

    when you look at WOWY for Lecavalier
    last 4 years.16 of 32 players are better with him than without.

    Of those that played any big miutes with him.
    the top 2 wingers are:
    Purcell 670.3min 3.67GF/60 2.33 GA/60 +1.34GD/60
    Pouliot 175.75min 3.76GF/60 2.73 GA/60 +1.03GD/60

  47. Bruce McCurdy says:

    VanOil: He is done being worth 4.5M. He is done as a top 6 forward. But he if Philly keeps 1/2 his cap he might be OK as a #3 Center for a year or so then a buyout.

    Maybe we could start up the Ed Snider Benevolence Fund while we’re at it.

  48. VanOil says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Maybe we could start up the Ed Snider Benevolence Fund while we’re at it.

    Freeing Snider from one painfully stupid decision just frees us up to watch his next painfully stupid decision. Age will not make him wiser.

  49. VanOil says:

    rickithebear: when you look at WOWY for Lecavalier
    last 4 years.16 of 32 players are better with him than without.

    Of those that played any big miutes with him.
    the top 2 wingers are:
    Purcell 670.3min3.67GF/602.33 GA/60 +1.34GD/60
    Pouliot 175.75min 3.76GF/60 2.73 GA/60 +1.03GD/60

    Those are better stats than I was expecting. Thanks for providing them.

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