NO. 13 PROSPECT (winter 2014) MARTIN GERNAT

Martin Gernat is one of many defense prospects trying to stand out in the crowd that is the Oilers current prospect cluster. He appears to have taken a backwards step this season but it isn’t clear if the down arrow is real or an organizational  hammer over fitness. Either way, he’s talented enough to make the list and could be underrated at this number.

PREVIOUSLY NUMBER THIRTEEN ON THE LIST

  • December 2004: C Jesse Niinimaki (0)
  • December 2005: C Jonas Almtorp (0)
  • December 2006: D Bryan Young (17)
  • December 2007: L Liam Reddox (100)
  • December 2008: L Slava Trukhno (0)
  • December 2009: L Phil Cornet (2)
  • December 2010: C Ryan Martindale (0)
  • December 2011: L Tobias Rieder (18)
  • December 2012: L Tobias Rieder (18)
  • December 2013: D Taylor Fedun (4)

Mostly cups of coffee, with two legit successes (Liam Reddox and Tobias Rieder) in the group. Gernat seems to fit right in with these names, a cluster with ability and issues running alongside each other.

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WHAT THEY SAID ON DRAFT DAY

  • Stu MacGregor told us the scouts had Martin Gernat inside their top 35.
  • Redline scout Radim Jelinek: Gernat is a smooth skater with fluid stride and decent footwork for his size. Has very good vision and hands, moves the puck well, handles the puck with confidence making solid decision with puck. Likes to join the rush regularly and shows good instinct in sliding from the point into scoring positions. Just started developing physical play in his game, still very inconsistent using his body, needs to play aggressive, physical game all the time. When he uses it then he is tough to beat 1 on 1, angles forwards to the outside, tights forward up at the boards, hits hard. Lacks strength right now and still growing but has frame to fill it out. D-zone coverage is still very average, needs to read the play better defensively, improve positional play and play much tighter game. Very raw but I like his progress throughout the season and see some similar things in his game as in Martin Marincin’s. He is far from him as Marincin was first rounder in my eyes while Gernat is later-round pick but upside is there.
  • Kirk Luedeke: Slovakia’s best defender has excellent size (6-5) and good mobility for such a big kid. He’s fluid in his movements and still a little gangly, but had a couple of memorable plays where he jumped in from the point to get a good shot off, but was denied by Gibson. He was burned on a couple of missed coverages, but overall, was one of Slovakia’s better players in a thrashing. Lack of physical play and strength is his biggest shortcoming right now, but he has the kind of projectable upside that makes him a solid sleeper for the 2011 draft.

POINTS BY DISCIPLINE, MARTIN GERNAT

PLAYER EV PP PK TOTAL
GERNAT 2011-12 WHL 60, 7-25-32 .533 60, 2-20-22 .367 60, 0-1-1 60, 9-46-55 .917
GERNAT 2012-13 WHL 23, 1-5-6 .261 23, 2-5-7 .304 23, 0-0-0 23, 3-10-13 .565
GERNAT 2013-14 AHL 57, 4-15-19 .333 57, 0-2-2 .035 57, 0-0-0 57, 4-17-21 .368
GERNAT 2014-15 AHL 20, 0-3-3 .150 20, 0-0-0 .000 20, 0-0-0 20, 0-3-3 .150

That healthy Oil King season in 2011-12 was so much fun to watch, one of my favorite junior seasons (and I’ve seen a lot of junior hockey over a long period of time). He was injured in his final junior season, but showed well enough in year one AHL. This season has been very different, more on that below.

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PREVIOUS TOP 20 RANKING

  • Summer 2011: 19
  • Winter 2011: 7
  • Summer 2012: 5
  • Winter 2012: 6
  • Summer 2013: 5
  • Winter 2013: 9
  • Summer 2014: 11
  • Winter 2014: 13

Gernat has been all over the top 20, his healthy season with the Oil Kings clearly impacted the rating. His AHL debut was good not great, he played in 75% on the Barons’ games as a rookie and showed well enough defensively. A scout I talked to when Gernat was in junior said he wouldn’t bring the offense with him to pro hockey and that has held true so far.

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WHAT THEY’RE SAYING THIS SEASON

  • Dallas Eakins on Gernat: “Has to get stronger and play a simpler game with more will.”
  • Jonathan Willis on Gernat’s early demotion: “This is an embarrassment for a guy who should be an NHL recall option in 2014-15. He has been passed in the view of the coaching staff by both Dillon Simpson and Jordan Oesterle – rookie pros – and both those guys played last night. Eakins praised his work in the summer but said he’s “still far below what it’s going to take” in terms of strength and endurance to survive in the NHL.”
  • Todd Nelson in December: “The guy who has turned the corner for me over the last couple of weeks is Martin Gernat. Marty was very inconsistent at the start of the year, we had to communicate to him we wanted him to play with more intensity and more consistently, he’s bringing it the last five of six games.”

THE FUTURE

Gernat is not bringing the physical play and the Oilers are clearly not happy with his progress in this area. Gernat’s other problem is that he’s playing a position in which Edmonton has exceptional depth, so he’s not terribly unique (despite impressive size and some puck-moving ability). I think the Oilers see enough in Gernat to keep him around through the length of his entry level deal (expires summer 2016) but this young player trails Darnell Nurse, Oscar Klefbom and Dillon Simpson on my list and there are several prospects not far behind. Each AHL defender (aside from Oesterle and Simpson) must ask themselves why Brandon Davidson was the recall and Gernat should be pushing for that kind of opportunity.

As that old scout mentioned, the offense hasn’t come; despite impressive size/speed Gernat isn’t winning battles and imposing his will physically. I think the the Oilers are at a crossroads with Gernat, similar to the one they’re currently experiencing with Martin Marincin. It’s difficult for fans to know which way the wind blows (is this the fault of the player? The team? Both?) but Gernat earns this spot based on ability and should have a solid pro career. I think the Oilers believe he’s a tweener, but the Oilers believe a lot of things.

The 2011 NHL Draft

  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, No. 1 overall. Splendid young player and may be adding another gear in year four after his draft. Graduated.
  • Oscar Klefbom, No. 19 overall. A big piece of Edmonton’s future on the blue line, Top 4D with an emphasis on defense. No.3 on the winter 20.
  • David Musil, No. 31 overall. Smart defender, it comes down to foot speed. Candidate winter 20.
  • Samu Perhonen, No. 63 overall. Big goalie hasn’t progressed. Back in Finland. Not in organization.
  • Travis Ewanyk, No. 74 overall. Tough as nails checking C doesn’t bring offense. Candidate for winter 20.
  • Dillon Simpson, No. 92 overall. Turned pro this season, impressing in OKC. No. 8 on the winter 20.
  • Tobias Rieder, No. 114 overall. No longer in organization. Scouting home run, he’s in the NHL.
  • Martin Gernat, No. 122 overall. A solid young prospect maturing in the AHL. No. 13 on the winter 20.
  • Frans Tuohimaa, No. 182 overall. Prospect has shown some interesting progress. Candidate for winter 20.

The 2011 draft is in its fourth year and there are some promising things. Nuge and Klefbom appear to be major pieces of the future and Rieder looks like a helluva player. Dillon Simpson and Gernat have a chance—it’s highly unlikely both play 100 NHL games and very possible neither play 20—but Gernat certainly covers the bet involved in taking a player No. 122 overall. His range of skills and relative youth have him at No. 13 overall.

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48 Responses to "NO. 13 PROSPECT (winter 2014) MARTIN GERNAT"

  1. Pouzar says:

    Eric Rodgers ‏@ericrsports 33s34 seconds ago
    #OKCBarons lines:
    R.Hamilton-Williams-Ford
    C.Hamilton-Lander-Pakarinen
    Moroz-Yakimov-Miller
    K.Jones-C.Jones-Ewanyk

    Eric Rodgers ‏@ericrsports 14s15 seconds ago
    #OKCBarons d-pairs:
    Simpson-Hunt
    Marincin-Gernat
    Musil-Oesterle
    Brossoit in net

  2. Clay says:

    I got to watch all the Slovakia games when the WJC was here in 2012. Watched specifically for MM and Gernat, which wasn’t hard because they were paired together and played 30 minutes a game. When they were standing still, they looked like twins, but played so differently.

    MM was the stoic reliable stay-at-home guy who seemed to move with great efficiency, and Gernat was kind of like Yak – going in three directions at once, always at full-throttle. Interesting to watch, but I can see why he’s lagging behind his countryman. I think it’s easier to teach a responsible defender when to jump up, than it is to teach a guy with crazylegs to be responsible.

    (Insert gratuitous shot at Jultz here.)

  3. G Money says:

    Would it be too much to ask the Oilers for patience in the development of D prospect? Some don’t figure it out until their mid-twenties.

    LT with an Eakins quote: Dallas Eakins on Gernat: “Has to get stronger and play a simpler game with more will.”

    Me adjusting Eakins’ quote for increased truthiness: Dallas Eakins on the Oilers: “Have to get stronger and play a simpler game with more will.”

  4. G Money says:

    Clay: than it is to teach a guy with lazylegs to be responsible.
    (Insert gratuitous shot at Jultz here.)

    Done.

  5. sliderule says:

    The communication between the scouting and management must be brutal.

    If physicality in your defender is your main criteria why draft string beans like Gernat and Marincin when the scouting reports said they were not physical..

    Why trade for Philip Larsen when it was known he was unable to handle the big forwards.

    This seemed lack of communication is why I say a head scout should be operating out of Kingsway right under the GM’s feet.

  6. Ray says:

    Gagner is a healthy scratch? Think we could trade for him so our most recent draft pick isn’t rushed?

  7. SwedishPoster says:

    I don’t get why everyone seems so surprised Davidson got the nod, from what I’ve understood, Hunts crazy offense aside, he’s been OKCs best d-man the last few and imo has looked good in the NHL so far. Since it’s clear that they see something lacking in Marincin’s game, Davidson seems like the obvious choice.
    There are other far stranger roster moves this season if you ask me. Which noone did. I’ll show myself out now.

  8. Lowetide says:

    SwedishPoster:
    I don’t get why everyone seems so surprised Davidson got the nod, from what I’ve understood, Hunts crazy offense aside, he’s been OKCs best d-man the last few and imo has looked good in the NHL so far. Since it’s clear that they see something lacking in Marincin’s game, Davidson seems like the obvious choice.
    There are other far stranger roster moves this season if you ask me. Which noone did. I’ll show myself out now.

    Davidson has played well, I’m thrilled for him. If you’re Gernat, he took your chance. Gernat has been the better prospect for some time.

  9. SwedishPoster says:

    Also. On Eakins. He seems to maybe focus a bit to much on physical attributes and will and not enough on system and structure. Can anyone see a clear strategy on how the team moves through the neutral zone or set up plays in the offensive zone? Or how to break out and quickly transition. I get that this group needs to clear out the big errors and lack of intensity but that can’t be the only focus. It’s his second season, we should start to see what kind of system coach he is.

  10. Zack says:

    Just noticed that the Barons have a pretty solid record!

  11. SwedishPoster says:

    Lowetide,

    Has he? Davidson has looked like the far better pro thus far. Gernat has only fared well against kids. I understand that Gernat has the higher offensive upside but his D was a question mark already in juniors and to me he’s always been boom/bust kind of guy who’d need time to get there while Davidson felt like a pretty solid bet to get some bottom pairing action in since his transition to the pros was surprisingly smooth despite all his troubles. I do value defensive smarts very high for d-men.

  12. Gordies Elbow says:

    Zack:
    Just noticed that the Barons have a pretty solid record!

    Yep, and check this out:

    Richard Bachman 13 773:57 34 1 2.64 7 3 3 379 345 0.910
    Laurent Brossoit 10 539:16 25 1 2.78 5 3 0 285 260 0.912

    LB’s improving. Nelson’s alternating between him and Bachman.

  13. Zack says:

    Gordies Elbow,

    Beauty, a silver lining in this season. Hopefully the follow suit to Tampa’s AHL affiliate. I think we’ll need a little more offensive power though and Russians.

  14. stush18 says:

    Would anyone here trade for petr mrazek? With howard locked up long term hes going to want his chance to be a starter. I know detroit hates trading away players they have developed, but i cant see them managing to keep them both happy.

    Woukd petry and 4th work?
    Fasth and a 4th?
    A 3rd and gernat?
    Mrazek is a rfa after next year, and is having a great year. I doubt they would trade petry for mrazek as it leaves them with just gustavsson. Maybe fasth and petry for mrazek and marchenko?

    I know we are leaving our powder dry, but if we are selling off ufas, i would do something for mrazek.

  15. Lowetide says:

    Matt Ford scores, ANOTHER assist for Lander. He’s 24GP, 6-16-22 for the year, 2-4-6 in his last 5. CALL HIM UP!!!!

  16. Gordies Elbow says:

    Lowetide,

    Why would they want a guy like Lander, when Hendricks can do the same job (ish) for 3 times the price?

    [thoughts that might grow up to become columns]: You might want to do an article on Yakupov and the falling ruble. Over the last 52 weeks, the ruble has dropped 57% compared to the US dollar. It might have a significant impact on resigning Yakupov to his upcoming bridge deal.

  17. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Lowetide,

    I’m not at home so can’t look it up, but didn’t MacT call out Musil and Gernat early in the summer as in need of stepping up before they even arrived in camp? Oilers play favourites and those two definitely were on the wrong side of MacT’s perception long before now. As you say, the Oilers believe certain things.

  18. Post Morty says:

    Lowetide: Lander. He’s 24GP, 6-16-22 for the year

    Lander is almost 1.0 ppg? Good for him, but isn’t he too valuable to Nelson for NHL duty? I mean, Mccough, Mccough maybe it’s not best for Lander to be burdened with the task of putting out a tire fire?

  19. Gordies Elbow says:

    OKC left wing, 22gp – 5g – 7a – 12pts +1, 6’3″, 202lb.

    Better than Gazdic?

  20. leadfarmer says:

    Lowetide,

    But, but, but then they can’t send him back down without risking waivers and we all know nothing scares franthis chise more than waivers

  21. leadfarmer says:

    Gernat is a ton of chaos, he will take time to settle down. Still think he should be converted to wing. He just doesnt think the game well enough for a defensemen.

  22. leadfarmer says:

    Plus here is the Oilers NHL center depth chart.
    RNH
    Arco
    Gordon
    Drai
    Hendricks
    Any left winger
    Any right winger
    Any defencemen
    Ben Scrivens
    Victor Fasth
    Joey Moss

    Anton Lander

  23. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    Matt Ford scores, ANOTHER assist for Lander. He’s 24GP, 6-16-22 for the year,2-4-6 in his last 5. CALL HIM UP!!!!

    Lander would be the 2nd best C on the Oilers tomorrow, why call him up?

    Also,

    Chipchura with an assist on the go ahead goal, +1 and is 7/8 on the dot.

    Don’t need that in EDM either.

    Oilers have a kids and 4LW who can sub in.

    I bet they could even get Smyth to sign a one year contract and play 4C.

    No need to for these Actual Centers to play on the Oilers.

    None at all.

  24. Woodguy says:

    leadfarmer:
    Plus here is the Oilers NHL center depth chart.
    RNH
    Arco
    Gordon
    Drai
    Hendricks
    Any left winger
    Any right winger
    Any defencemen
    Ben Scrivens
    Victor Fasth
    Joey Moss

    Anton Lander

    That’s MacT’s depth chart, not “everyone else with eyes and a pulse”

  25. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy,

    Well yes, but you and I dont get to make those decisions 🙂

  26. Woodguy says:

    Barons Gameday ‏@BaronsGameDay 2m2 minutes ago
    Anton Lander has assisted on all three #OKCBarons goals tonight

    Another good reason to leave him OKC.

    Who needs a C who gets points?

    Not MacT.

    No sir.

  27. Woodguy says:

    leadfarmer:
    Woodguy,

    Well yes, but you and I dont get to make those decisions

    We should.

    We’d be better than this train wreck we’ve been forced to endure.

  28. Lowetide says:

    Pakarinen (Lander, Curtis Hamilton) 3-2 OKC late. Call the entire line up for tomorrow night. Seriously.

  29. ohhell says:

    Is Houck injured? He hasn’t played this weekend for the Giants.

  30. Lowetide says:

    ohhell:
    Is Houck injured?He hasn’t played this weekend for the Giants.

    He left the WED game with a lower body injury, haven’t heard anything since but probably an injury of some sort.

  31. Eastern Oil says:

    Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer · 3m3 minutes ago
    Anton Lander in on all three goals as OKC knocks off Grand Rapids 3-2. Lander has 76 points last 70 GP in AHL last 2 years. Recall option?

    Maybe we will see Anton up soon?

  32. Aitch says:

    Barons comeback to win 3-2. Lander with 3 assists. IF the Oilers called him up, is it possible he finally remembers to pack his offence?

  33. leadfarmer says:

    Well. The Blue Jackets have won now 6 in a row and like I’ve said prior are really a lot better than their record suggests. Buffalo doesn’t realize yet that they are suppose to be tanking and are now 7-3 in their last 10. Arizona has at least a point tonight and will get some more points as soon as they figure out to roll with Dubnyk as he has a 30 point Save percentage advantage over Smith. Looks like the battle of ’06 is being replayed for McDavid

  34. kinger_OIL says:

    Gernat – meh: he is what it is: a dime a dozen long-term D prospect. All teams have at least 2 of him on their 50 man roster: Oil though have a half-dozen. On no team in the NHL does Lowe or MacT end up where they are. They were both mediocre players who happened to play on great teams that won Cups, and then the team that they played on got an owner who grew up with them. They won the lottery twice: as players and then as ass-lickers. Assuming they get fired, no one hires them. MacT made it past the first round in playoffs as a coach once in what 10 years of coaching at any level? That plus his online MBA makes him the GM: because Oilers? So they hire this new guy who might be in charge, that has no NHL experience, and did a sh%t job last 5 years with his old job. They hired a GM who had no experience that hired a Coach with no experience who replaced a coach who had no experience, who coached with another coach who wasn’t a head coach before either. I don’t live in Edmonton, but I’ve lived in many great sports towns: when Chelsea sucked, no one came, when the Yankees sucked, no one came, Montreal didn’t sell out when they blew. OK I live in Toronto and they are just as faithful to their pathetic Leafs. But I hate the leafs. I’ve got a five year old playing hockey: I hope he picks another team. I HATE THE OILERS NOW. Guys: just boycott the team, make the owner be scared after 10 years of just sheit. Good lord, even the Packers, who could put monkeys on the field have been good for the last 20 years.

  35. Woodguy says:

    Aitch:
    Barons comeback to win 3-2. Lander with 3 assists. IF the Oilers called him up, is it possible he finally remembers to pack his offence?

    If Eakins plays him with Pinizzotto and Gazdic I wouldn’t expect much offence.

  36. leadfarmer says:

    I hear the Oilers were practicing the powerplay today with some players you wouldnt expect to get PP time like Hendricks. They should put in a new rule for the team. If you don’t stand in front of the net, you don’t get powerplay time, and then put in two players parked in front of the net on every power play. No more fancy perimeter play. Put bodies in front, throw pucks at the net. Although I might get confused if I see a powerplay that doesn’t have Eberle 10 feet from the net on one side of the net, Hall 10 feet from the net on the otherside of the net, Nuge on either face off dot and the defensemen standing at the blue line trying to wish the puck into the net.

  37. rich says:

    Eastern Oil:
    Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer· 3m3 minutes ago
    Anton Lander in on all three goals as OKC knocks off Grand Rapids 3-2. Lander has 76 points last 70 GP in AHL last 2 years. Recall option?

    Maybe we will see Anton up soon?

    Why would you want to call Lander up? He can’t score even strength, it’s all PP time in the AHL?

    Oh wait, 4 of his last 5 points have been even strength.

    You call him up, we might actually blow the chance at McDavid or Eichel.

    Leave him in OKC, and let someone like Detroit or Phoenix pick him up next season.

  38. leadfarmer says:

    kinger_OIL,

    A 6’5 defenseman that can skate is not really a dime a dozen prospect. Sure he is still a long shot, but I would much rather do it in the 5th round on a player that can skate than in the first round on guys like Mcilrath and Plante.

    I do wonder how many total draft choices have teams wasted trying to get the next Scott Stevens or Milan Lucic

  39. Minister D- says:

    rich,

    I’m all for calling up Lander, but you can’t honestly believe that adding him to the lineup will blow the Oilers’ chance at drafting 1 or 2.

  40. leadfarmer says:

    rich,

    I think things like this are more likely to cause prospects to not want to sign here than their terrible record. Every young hockey player dreams to make the NHL even if the team sucks. But if you’ve played well enough that you should get your shot in the NHL, but the team will not give you that shot that would be a warning to prospects to not sign with that team.

  41. kinger_OIL says:

    leadfarmer:
    kinger_OIL,

    A 6’5 defenseman that can skate is not really a dime a dozen prospect.Sure he is still a long shot, but I would much rather do it in the 5th round on a player that can skate than in the first round on guys like Mcilrath and Plante.

    I do wonder how many total draft choices have teams wasted trying to get the next Scott Stevens or Milan Lucic

    Lead – so what is it: a decent 5th rounder, or a wasted pick trying to get a giant like Milan Lucic? I’m not saying Gernat isn’t a prospect, but he is what he is: a long shot at best, and if he wasn’t so tall, he would be further down the pecking order. If he wasn’t playing international hockey and getting reps with the Slovaks, even further down the batting order… Just a straw poll: who thinks the OIL can make the playoffs next three years? What percent chance do you give? My response: next year: 0, 2 years out: 0, and guessing what happens in three years is folly…

  42. Eastern Oil says:

    rich,

    I think this is a vote to bring Lander up (not 100% sure). But chances at McEichel aside, it’ all about having a glaring hole to fill, having a player able to fill in, and making said decision.

    You can say what you want about Lander but he’s put the time in, scored at the AHL level, and his coach sings his defensive praises. This, at the very least, means he should be in the NHL right now because we are currently icing Gaz-Hendricks-Pinn as our 4th line.

    Full stop.

  43. rich says:

    Minister D-,

    Minister D: My sense is Lander can play a decent C, kill penalties and help this team out right now. Enough to move them up? Maybe not, but Carolina, Buffalo and Columbus are not out of reach.

    I admit to being sarcastic about the smartest man in the room who occupies the GM seat right now out of frustration. He made the decision after Draisaitl was drafted that come you-know-what or high water, he was going to remain on the roster. He’s coached in this league and should know better.

    Lander certainly did not do enough to help himself in camp, that’s what we saw and heard. I get that.

    But he’s doing a good job right now in OKC and you have gaping holes at C that are made worse with Gordon out. You can’t tell me Lander can do any worse in the Oilers lineup right now than what we have.

    It’s one thing to make mistakes. We all do. It’s another thing to admit you screwed up (you don’t have to hold a press conference) and just bring him up. You can even say given the injuries and depth he’s getting a shot and we hope he’ll make the most of it.

    I could be wrong, but it’s the perceived arrogance of the GM (that’s different from confidence) that concerns me about next season as well if there’s not a change made. We’re just going to rinse repeat with another top 3 forward pick next season and make them learn in the NHL all over again. We’ve seen how that song plays.

  44. rich says:

    Eastern Oil,

    Agree 100%. He’s earned a shot. It can’t be worse than what we have now, and with this season lost, it’s time to fish or cut bait once and for all.

    The thing I’ve liked this season is that he is starting to produce at evens in the AHL. Some guys take longer to develop…particularly when your development was screwed up by an organization that in it’s defense, did not have the luxury to be patient with guys a few years ago.

    Give the man another chance. You’ve got nothing else to lose at this point.

  45. kooler says:

    Lowetide,

    Lander played 27 games last year 1 pt….granted he did not play with the high end talent but does he have the NHL speed. Is it wishful thinking he’ll produce in the NHL. Maybe Oil mngt think he’s only useful in the AHL and think it’s best to have him in OKC.

  46. hunter1909 says:

    kinger_OIL: They won the lottery twice: as players and then as ass-lickers.

    lol

    kinger_OIL: Assuming they get fired, no one hires them.

    Podolsk might.

  47. knighttown says:

    kinger_OIL: Just a straw poll: who thinks the OIL can make the playoffs next three years?What percent chance do you give?My response: next year: 0, 2 years out: 0, and guessing what happens in three years is folly…

    For some reason this last line made me laugh out loud. I can speak about month 23 with absolutely certainty. There’s a zero, ZERO percent chance this team can make he playoffs. but once that calendar turns to month 24 ive got nothin. Who can predict the future 24 months away? Even hazarding a guess is preposterous!

    Not that I disagree with your assessment Kinger, the massive cutoff at month 24 made me chuckle.

  48. PhrankLee says:

    If I’m Anton Lander I’m smirking inwardly at my rising value in general. Whatever he said to land himself this deep in the doghouse must have been SO dead on the money that Eakins or MacT or both can’t stomach looking him in the eye.

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