WAIVE BABIES

The Edmonton Oilers pulled off a mild surprise today, plucking winger (he can play either side) Matt Fraser from the Boston Bruins. Fraser brings an interesting skill set: He’s an aggressive player with a quick, hard shot (it’s a difference maker in the AHL and he has had some success in the NHL, too) who has some genuine skating issues. Fraser isn’t a big man but can play that heavy style the Bruins value so much.

He would have been eligible for the 2008, 2009 and 2010 entry drafts and considering his league (WHL) and role (gritty winger) it’s a good bet Edmonton has known about Fraser for six or more years. He played junior as an overage player in 2010-11 and scored 36 goals. The big career spike came the following season, as Fraser scored 37 as an AHL rookie (that’s a helluva total).

It’s a solid bet for Edmonton but I think we need to be realistic. If he becomes the next Dan Lacouture that’s probably success—if he emerges as more then it’s an absolute home run. One thing that really stands out from his AHL numbers (aside from the goals) is the number of shots he took in Texas. He took 253 shots in 73 games as an AHL rookie, a splendid total.

paajarvi6At the same time as Edmonton was announcing the Fraser claim, word hit the hockey world that Magnus Paajarvi had been placed on waivers by the St. Louis Blues. I like the Fraser claim—Steve Pinizzotto is a solid player but at 30 unlikely a long term solution—but Paajarvi’s speed alone makes him an attractive option for Edmonton. If I list the Oilers depth chart on wing (Hall—Eberle, Perron—Purcell, Yakupov—Pitlick, Fraser—Hendricks—Gazdic) where does Paajarvi slot?

I’d absolutely take him for Pitlick’s spot and all below save Hendricks. Fair?

We wait. Don’t hold your breath though. As fast as Paajarvi is, that rugged style that made Fraser so attractive to the Oilers is not available in Paajarvi. In this way, we have a clear indication about where this organization is heading.

The Oilers activation of Nikitin means they’re getting closer to having their opening night group back in action. Benoit Pouliot is getting closer but we’re probably still a ways off from seeing the big man on the wing.

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51 Responses to "WAIVE BABIES"

  1. Henry says:

    Paajarvi absolutely should be picked up by the Oilers. Are they first in the waiver line for him? or did the Fraser pickup change that?

  2. CockyHockey says:

    I was going to convert my 91 jersey into a 93….might not have to now!

  3. Ca$h-Money! says:

    LT,

    There is a political issue with bringing back a guy like MP. He had his issues when he played for this team, he was sent to St. Louis with the idea that Hitchcock would teach him to turn his speed into physicality, which didn’t happen. I think if they pick him up now there would be a fear that it would reflect as Hubris for this organization, and they won’t want to be perceived in that light (more than they already are).

    That said I like MP, I see the role for him, but I think optics keep this from happening.

  4. bigbadbruin24 says:

    With the Bruins currently struggling as well I figured a deal between the two clubs could materialize in the next day or two. I didn’t think claiming Matt Fraser off waivers would be it, lol. A much bigger deal could still be in the works (Lucic is out tonight….not saying, just saying) so some sort of deal could be on the horizon. The Bruins and St.Louis might be on the verge of something as well…three way with the Oilers??…ya never know.

    Matt Fraser does provide more upside than Steve Pinizzotto (with all due respect to Mr.Pinizzotto…I don’t mind his game) so hopefully he fits in well and helps the Oil out.

  5. Szach says:

    Maybe a mulligan on Heatley?

    Seriously though – Paajarvi back in Edmonton would be the best hockey deal for MacT ever – Paajarvi and a pick for Paajarvi and Perron.

    While were at it – bring back Lander.

  6. Captain's Log says:

    In other mildly surprising good Oilers news,

    EdmontonOilers: #Oilers activate defenceman Nikita Nikitin from injured reserve, assign defenceman Brad Hunt to the AHL’s @OKCBarons.

    Nikitin hasn’t been great this year but he is still a major upgrade over Hunt.

    I would be all for a Pajaarvi claim. As far as I can tell we are now at 47 contracts with Fraser (Nurse and Chase are sliding). Lots of room to add a bottom 6 winger with potential still. He still hasn’t quite found a role in the NHL but there is still ability there.

  7. Hammers says:

    I would pick up Magnus . Speed to burn. Allie and hunt can both go .

  8. LostBoy says:

    [Sorry, didn’t realize there was a new thread, re-posted from the tail end of the old one:]

    Does anyone have any source for the idea that you “go to the back of the queue” once you process a successful waiver claim?

    There are a ton of current NHL waiver FAQs and such on the web. I can’t find one that mentions this. They all say that waiver priority is based on the prior season’s final standings up until Nov. 01, and then on the current season’s standings. I can’t find anything that says successful waiver claims affect subsequent priority, but maybe I’m looking in the wrong places.

  9. Lowetide says:

    LostBoy:
    [Sorry, didn’t realize there was a new thread, re-posted from the tail end of the old one:]

    Does anyone have any source for the idea that you “go to the back of the queue” once you process a successful waiver claim?

    There are a ton of current NHL waiver FAQs and such on the web. I can’t find one that mentions this. They all say that waiver priority is based on the prior season’s final standings up until Nov. 01, and then on the current season’s standings. I can’t find anything that says successful waiver claims affect subsequent priority, but maybe I’m looking in the wrong places.

    I’m not certain that’s true to be honest. The NHL changes rules so often I can believe it was once a rule and has been banished or vice versa. With the NHL, it’s never clear.

  10. Hammers says:

    Guess hunts gone .so pit lick down for Magnus

  11. oliveoilers says:

    You see, this is thing for me: Why have we picked this guy up when we have Pakarinen playing so well and let yet another center that can help slip through the net yet again?

    This smells like the Gazdic pick up. We’ve watched this guy for a while and now here he is. I’m not saying he can’t help, but we already have him in prospect form. Roy isn’t the answer, but he’s a passable response that buys us time for Drai to develop. What NHL teams trying to get better do. Yet another decision based on something other than winning. Desperation truly is a stinky cologne.

    We expected a center – it turned out like always.

  12. slopitch says:

    Pick up Magnus, bring up Lander. Play them on the 4th line with Yak.

  13. ironsight says:

    Issue with claiming Paajarvi is that the Oilers’ active roster currently sits at 23 players. They can’t open up a spot to add Paajarvi without waiving a player or demoting a player currently on the roster.

    If you’re waiving a player, they need 24 hours to clear, meaning that player would have had to be waived prior to 10am today in order to claim Paajarvi before tomorrow’s deadline.

    The only players on the roster who could be assigned without having to clear waivers would be Klefbom and Draisaidl. Its doubtful that the team would run with 6 dmen, so Klefbom isn’t going anywhere, and Draisaidl is likely not going anywhere unless he’s replaced with a C.

    So much for any hopes for a return tour by Magnus…

  14. RexLibris says:

    Paajarvi-Lander-Pitlick looks on paper like a good shutdown line.

    Take Paajarvi and send down Gazdic, claim Roy and send Draisaitl back to junior.

    It isn’t the answer but at least it improves the problem.

  15. ironsight says:

    Lowetide,

    There are no ‘queuing rules’ in the CBA. The waiver priority provision is 13.19, the relevant portion of which is as follows:

    “…In the event that more than one Club makes a claim for such Player, he shall: (i) be transferred to the claiming Club having earned the lowest percentage of possible points in the League standing at the time of the request for Waivers…”

    Accordingly, the Oilers would retain first priority on the waiver wire tomorrow despite having put in a claim on Fraser.

  16. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    While the Oilers’ miserable winning percentage guarantees them dibs on every waiver player, Johnny Hockey and Gags are named as two of three NHL stars for this week. Ouch.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=746036&navid=nhl:topheads

  17. Salt N Peca says:

    For people complaining about MPS not being a hockey player anymore, keep in mind that on the Blues he was playing 10 minutes a game (when he wasn’t being scratched) on the 4th line. Too much depth on that team for MPS to succeed.

    Also he played a lot better under Todd Nelson, he would definitely be a good pick up.

  18. commonfan14 says:

    ironsight,

    How does that reconcile with the fact that they were able to pick up Fraser today by waiving Pinizzotto?

  19. rickithebear says:

    Hammers:
    I would pick up Magnus . Speed to burn. Allie and hunt can both go .

    The league average for EVG is 2.33 G/60
    Aulie 1.61 EVGA/60
    ——————————–
    Nikitin 2.82 EVGA/60
    Ference 2.87 EVGA/60
    Schultz 2.90 EVGA/60
    fayne 2.92 EVGA/60
    Petry2.99 EVGA/60
    marincin 3.35 EVGA/60
    Klefbom 3.81 EVGA/60
    Hunt 3.94 EVGA/60

    There is Stupid!

    Then there is special needs moronic fucking stupid!

  20. Manitoba Oilers says:

    ironsight,

    We have the same # of players as we did yesterday on the roster. Fraser in pinizzoto down Nikitin reactivated hunt sent down

  21. ironsight says:

    commonfan14,

    Nikitin is still listed on the IR on the team site. Hunt was assigned today and he didn’t need waivers (less than 30 days on active roster and less than 10GP since he was last waived). The Hunt assignment makes room for Fraser, and Nikitin will likely be truly activated tomorrow once Pinnizotto clears waivers.

  22. oliveoilers says:

    rickithebear: The league average for EVG is 2.33 G/60
    Aulie 1.61 EVGA/60
    ——————————–
    Nikitin 2.82 EVGA/60
    Ference 2.87 EVGA/60
    Schultz 2.90 EVGA/60
    fayne 2.92 EVGA/60
    Petry2.99 EVGA/60
    marincin 3.35 EVGA/60
    Klefbom 3.81 EVGA/60
    Hunt 3.94 EVGA/60

    There is Stupid!

    Then there is special needs moronic fucking stupid!

    Easy there, big fella! Especially with the ‘special needs’ diatribe.

    It doesn’t surprise me that Aulie has a much lower EVGA. If you play 5mins a game against the soft parade, you’re not likely to be scored on. If you’re Schultz and are nailing 20mins + a game against the toughs and are generally terrible, or Hunt, who is tied at the waist with Jultz and are generally terrible then you’re going to be scored on a whole bunch. My only surprise is that Jultz’s EVGA is so low.

  23. Ribs says:

    One thing that really stands out from his AHL numbers (aside from the goals) is the number of shots he took in Texas. He took 253 shots in 73 games as an AHL rookie, a splendid total.

    Hmm… I’m not sure that’s really all that great of news. He won’t be shooting nearly that much at this level. Hoping for the best!

  24. Unicorns says:

    rickithebear: The league average for EVG is 2.33 G/60
    Aulie 1.61 EVGA/60
    ——————————–
    Nikitin 2.82 EVGA/60
    Ference 2.87 EVGA/60
    Schultz 2.90 EVGA/60
    fayne 2.92 EVGA/60
    Petry2.99 EVGA/60
    marincin 3.35 EVGA/60
    Klefbom 3.81 EVGA/60
    Hunt 3.94 EVGA/60

    There is Stupid!

    Then there is special needs moronic fucking stupid!

    Hey RTB, I often try to understand your stats. Do you think it is valid to take an team stat rate and compare it to an individual’s same rate? Is that apples to apples?

    Wouldn’t you have to compare players at a position on the same team over enough time (same environment with enough time to balance out swings) to have anything approaching an informative, valid number?

  25. Oddspell says:

    LostBoy,

    I think the “queuing” idea comes from fantasy hockey.

  26. Woodguy says:

    ironsight:
    commonfan14,

    Nikitin is still listed on the IR on the team site.Hunt was assigned today and he didn’t need waivers (less than 30 days on active roster and less than 10GP since he was last waived).The Hunt assignment makes room for Fraser, and Nikitin will likely be truly activated tomorrow once Pinnizotto clears waivers.

    You have this wrong Ironsight.

    It this was the case then every NHL team making a waiver claim would need to only have 22 on the roster and that’s not the case.

    Oilers claim Fraser so they assign Pinizzotto to OKC to make room. He needs to clear waivers so he gets put on waivers, but the transaction is being assigned to OKC.

    Oilers activate Nikitin off the IR, so they assign Hunt to OKC to have room.

    As long as there is a corresponding move(s) to balance the roster before then end of business that day (which I believe is 5pm New York time), you can do what you want.

    As soon as the Oilers (or any team) assigns a player elsewhere, he’s off the roster even if he has to clear waivers first.

    As a weird side note, you can clear waivers and still be on the roster.

    Oilers did this with Joensuu this year. Put him through waivers to see if anyone wanted him, but he stayed on the roster until he got a deal with SC Bern.

    Arizona did it this year with Chipchura. He was waived but not assigned anywhere and he never left Arizona.

  27. Woodguy says:

    RexLibris,

    Paajarvi-Lander-Pitlick looks on paper like a good shutdown line.

    Would shut down the Oilers offence for sure.

  28. Gerta Rauss says:

    ironsight:

    There are no ‘queuing rules’ in the CBA.The waiver priority provision is 13.19, the relevant portion of which is as follows:

    “…In the event that more than one Club makes a claim for such Player, he shall: (i) be transferred to the claiming Club having earned the lowest percentage of possible points in the League standing at the time of the request for Waivers…”

    Accordingly, the Oilers would retain first priority on the waiver wire tomorrow despite having put in a claim on Fraser.

    thanks for this-I read section 13 this morning and couldn’t find anything about “queuing”, just the mention about lowest percentage of possible points

    now about that roster spot however..that appears to be the sticky wicket

    I’m ambivalent about a return of MPS- if we’re picking him up because the player may have a future role within the organization, great. If we’re picking him up just to make the Perron trade look a little better from the Oilers point of view, well……

  29. Lucinius says:

    Woodguy:
    RexLibris,

    Paajarvi-Lander-Pitlick looks on paper like a good shutdown line.

    Would shut down the Oilersoffence for sure.

    Except the Oilers don’t have offense to shut down.

  30. Gret99zky says:

    As long as we are all feeling nostalgic:

    Bring back PRV.
    Talk Smyth out of retirement.
    Get Sugar-tits on the phone.

    #becauseOilerfans

  31. frjohnk says:

    Gret99zky:
    As long as we are all feeling nostalgic:

    Bring back PRV.
    Talk Smyth out of retirement.
    Get Sugar-tits on the phone.

    #becauseOilerfans

    Last year Smyth had 16 tip in shots.

    This year to date oilers have 18 as a team.

    For reference Flames have 56 tip ins to date.

  32. LMHF#1 says:

    Crazy thought of the day – Sign Omark Harju and Moses in the offseason. 4th line, minimal 5 on 5, all kinds of power play, save the bigs for power matchup.

  33. Woodguy says:

    Auston Matthews ’16:
    While the Oilers’ miserable winning percentage guarantees them dibs on every waiver player, Johnny Hockey and Gags are named as two of three NHL stars for this week. Ouch.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=746036&navid=nhl:topheads

    That’s because they both got to play against the Oilers last week.

  34. Woodguy says:

    frjohnk: Last year Smyth had 16 tip in shots.

    This year to date oilers have 18 as a team.

    For reference Flames have 56 tip ins to date.

    Link for data on that?

  35. Pouzar says:

    I don’t get the PRV love. I really don’t.

    Goddamnit I am in the minority again! Why can’t I be normal!

  36. Zelepukin says:

    Woodguy:
    RexLibris,

    Paajarvi-Lander-Pitlick looks on paper like a good shutdown line.

    Would shut down the Oilers offence for sure.

    LOL, so true.

    The amount of bullshit that gets spun on waiver positives is hilarious. You got guys like Stauffer saying shit like, Fraser has a knack for scoring big goals. Ya, that’s why Boston let him go.

  37. TheOtherJohn says:

    Repeat from last post: isnt Matt Fraser similar to Ryan Hamilton in OKC. Decent sized. Good shooter, has trouble skating? Plus he’s the 900th guy taht Stauffer says can play both sides. Never get to ask can he play both sides well?

  38. Ca$h-Money! says:

    TheOtherJohn,

    The difference is functionally age. 24 is right around the time teams get rid of guys who haven’t established themselves who then go on to make it for other teams.

    Most recent Oiler example would be Colin McDonald. Not a huge regret or anything, but he’s been a useful piece for the Islanders but couldn’t crack our roster.

  39. Captain's Log says:

    ironsight:
    Issue with claiming Paajarvi is that the Oilers’ active roster currently sits at 23 players.They can’t open up a spot to add Paajarvi without waiving a player or demoting a player currently on the roster.

    If you’re waiving a player, they need 24 hours to clear, meaning that player would have had to be waived prior to 10am today in order to claim Paajarvi before tomorrow’s deadline.

    The only players on the roster who could be assigned without having to clear waivers would be Klefbom and Draisaidl.Its doubtful that the team would run with 6 dmen, so Klefbom isn’t going anywhere, and Draisaidl is likely not going anywhere unless he’s replaced with a C.

    So much for any hopes for a return tour by Magnus…

    I don’t know for sure but this seems wrong to me somehow. I feel that since a claim wouldn’t be successful until 12 noon the next day as long as the Oilers put someone on waivers by then it would be fine.

    That said if they wanted to make it happen they could do a paper transaction and “send” Klefbom to the minors until someone else goes down. Having 6 D wouldn’t be an issue for one game.

  40. Kitchener says:

    My comments below are not about Matt Fraser specifically, as I know next to nothing about the man.

    It would not be surprising to enter a phase of smoke & mirrors in terms of personnel decisions. Peripheral moves designed to trick the casual observer into thinking that there’s change afoot in Edmonton.

    We all know that there’s a narrative that goes like this: the core of Hall-Nuge-___-___-___ just needs a few years to get old enough to dominate.

    What better way to get from here to there than to appear to make moves in the mean time (relieving some fan pressure) while actually not changing the recipe at all?

    Again, I know little about Matt Fraser, so this may be an unfair comment. From a meta perspective though, a few waiver claims, waiver releases of peripheral players, and minor trades would be a decent way to ride out the season while waiting for the core to mature.

    Not the best strategy, but miles better than trading the core.

  41. vinotintazo says:

    Did we just traded for Derek Roy?
    Bye arco…

  42. thejonrmcleod says:

    Arcobello for D. Roy.

  43. Pouzar says:

    thejonrmcleod: e for Derek Roy.

    Wow…weird.

  44. Captain's Log says:

    thejonrmcleod:
    Arcobello for D. Roy.

    I’m scratching my head to understand this one…what’s wrong with getting him for free?

  45. Surly says:

    Captain’s Log: I’m scratching my head to understand this one…what’s wrong with getting him for free?

    Didn’t want the +1 contract I presume.

  46. thejonrmcleod says:

    It appears that Arcobello wasn’t in their plans and just wanted to dump the contract before they added Roy.

  47. LMHF#1 says:

    MacTavish trying to save his own butt finally?

  48. Pouzar says:

    New post up.

  49. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    With the swap of Arco Roy, the Oilers just added size up the middle!

  50. TheOtherJohn says:

    Ca$h-Money!:
    TheOtherJohn,

    The difference is functionally age.24 is right around the time teams get rid of guys who haven’t established themselves who then go on to make it for other teams.

    Most recent Oiler example would be Colin McDonald.Not a huge regret or anything, but he’s been a useful piece for the Islanders but couldn’t crack our roster.

    Fraser and Hanilton followed a similar pattern scoring at the same age. I.E similar goal scoring at same age –24

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