OILERS AT FLAMES, G38 2014-15

The Corgi’s were barking and the goalie was a moon in the Salo house in the third (causing a tie in regulation) but the Oilers found a way to win a home game and Todd Nelson is off and running. The Hall line had a nice night (17% ZS and 58% EV Corsi for) and the Gordon line (10-26) did their due diligence with Matt Hendricks scoring a goal during a quick trip up the Rob Roy. The first two periods last night were fabulous and part of me believes they can win tonight, too.

They got hammered in the third period but this team rolled lines and had reasonable results through two periods last night. I know it was the second half of a btb for the Kings but it’s still LAK and Edmonton found a way. In a season with so little to enjoy, I’m willing to overlook the Corgi’s (47-66) and point out those two periods at the beginning of the game were rock solid.

This is the kind of future I can get behind. I think this was Klefbom’s best game in the NHL, the play he made at the blueline on the Nuge goal was strong strong strong. If he can improve his consistency during this season Edmonton will have one gigantic arrow in their future quiver to go with Hall and Nuge.

Petry six more minutes than Schultz? Maybe they will sign him! This kind of tracking of minutes is always important, never moreso than during a new coach’s early days. We’re discovering the men Todd Nelson trusts (Klefbom, reunited Nuge line) and can live without (Arcobello, Pinizzotto) along with the group of players Edmonton wants a long look at this season (Pitlick is the best current example).

Roy is exactly what the doctor ordered, that pass to Hendricks was sublime. I also liked Fraser, you can see that MacT would like this guy right off the hop. I didn’t notice a lot of offensive moments but he held the puck and made smart plays when the opportunity presented itself.

A very good sign for Pitlick: They’re using him as he should be deployed. I have tracked his entire career since draft day and there was a time when he scored enough we could dream about him as a complementary player offensively—and some of that offense may return someday when the game slows down for him at the NHL level. For now, tough zone-starts and a physical presence on a checking line suit his skills perfectly. This speaks to Nelson’s tweaks, and along with Nuge line being reunited and the power-play improvement are the first signs of the new coach putting his stamp on the team. Combined with the additions of Roy and Fraser, the Oilers are definitely morphing into something else. The concerns? Foot speed of the forwards and early possession results. scrivens common 1

    • Darryl Sutter on Ben Scrivens having to change the color of his stick tape: “It’s a rule. You have to have white tape on your stick. [Reporter: Did you just notice it then in the shootout?] No. If you check the books, he played for us.”

Sutter isn’t for everyone but I like him fine. That was a good effort for Ben Scrivens despite the Muzzin goal. The number one factor in this disaster has been goaltending, if this young man can pull it out of the ditch there should be some sunshine with the rain in the new year. It’ll be interesting to see if Nelson runs his starter out there again tonight, I think there’s a chance he does. Do you like the additions of tweets? I’m overusing it (new toy) but it looks appealing, right? Let me know.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for Craig MacTavish and that’s with the understanding that he’s loyal and stubborn on epic levels. This is the right thing to do but along with the deal for Roy is an admission of failure in roster construction. I think MacT is still learning on the job, this was a crushing lesson that cost him an entire season (along with the goaltending inertia and the Nikitin). I hope he’ll be more ready next fall for tweaking, or at the very least approach balance in his summer roster work. It’s a big damn deal.

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  1. Gordies Elbow says:

    Cameron,

    Qualcomp? You sure that you’re a Flames fan?

    I do believe that he was mismanaged and mishandled by the Flames.

  2. Cameron says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    Cameron,

    Qualcomp? You sure that you’re a Flames fan?

    I do believe that he was mismanaged and mishandled by the Flames.

    You are entitled to believe whatever narratives you like.

    The only mishandling the Flames did with Phaneuf was trading him for buckets of nothing (that said, if the Flames were to offer Stajan straight up to the Leafs for Phaneuf, I think they might take that deal)

  3. TemujinBC says:

    Fraser! Cheeky little goal!

  4. flyfish1168 says:

    Cameron: You are entitled to believe whatever narratives you like.

    The only mishandling the Flames did with Phaneuf was trading him for buckets of nothing (that said, if the Flames were to offer Stajan straight up to the Leafs for Phaneuf, I think they might take that deal)

    That is more because Phaneuf is signed till 2021 at 7 mil and he will be 36

    Stajan is at 3.125 Mil till 2018 and will only be 35

    If CAP and salary not in play Phaneuf much better player.

  5. Lowetide says:

    Fraser

  6. rich says:

    PP goal on the road? We’ll take it.

    Welcome to the Oilers Mr. Fraser

  7. VanOil says:

    An MSM member complimented Yakupov. I am in shock.

  8. voxwah says:

    Man I want Yak to score. He will probably explode by now.

  9. TemujinBC says:

    Keith Aulie is a hockey player in the NHL

  10. dawgtoy says:

    That’s a great hit in 1993, but not so much in 2014/15.

  11. Gerta Rauss says:

    5 and a game and he’ll be hearing from the league tomorrow

  12. TemujinBC says:

    dawgtoy:
    That’s a great hit in 1993, but not so much in 2014/15.

    Ha! Was just thinking the same

    “Man that was almost like a Scott Stevens Special”

    Glad to see Stajan hop right up, hope he’s alright

  13. Gerta Rauss says:

    It’d be nice to get out of this period with a 1 goal lead

  14. Gerta Rauss says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    It’d be nice to get out of this period with a 1 goal lead

    whew

  15. Ryan says:

    Fraser!

  16. flyfish1168 says:

    No intent just unfortunate big guy vs small player with head down.

  17. Gordies Elbow says:

    Cameron,

    I’ll believe in the facts, not a narrative.

    Flames management mishandled Phaneuf, and payed for it.

    What, do you think they’ll get for Baertschi? Better than what they got for Erixon?

  18. Lowetide says:

    Aulie Aulie Oxen Free!

  19. book¡je says:

    No instigator, no third man in… I guess a head hit eliminates all retailiation penalties.

  20. dawgtoy says:

    Fantastic road period IMO. A goal, a lead, and goal tending. So far so good. I like that the “battle” seems to be coming back to the battle of Alberta. Not loving Purcell so far by my eyes. He seems like a boat anchor on that line.

  21. dawgtoy says:

    Lowetide,

    LOL, I may have had a few too many mind you.

  22. rich says:

    Liked that Aulie stepped in. The 2 shifts immediately after the goal you could see Calgary was out trying to physically intimidate the Oilers.

    Don’t agree w/5 & a game, but like was said above, it’s 2014-15, not 1993 and they will call it.

  23. flyfish1168 says:

    book¡je:
    No instigator, no third man in…I guess a head hit eliminates all retailiation penalties.

    Yah that was ridiculous that phlegms didn’t even get one when i saw minimum 2 call that could have been made.

  24. hoser313 says:

    Some wil disagree, but I liked that hit. Keep an eye on how well the Flames forwards receive their breakout passes for the rest of the game.

    No intent. If you must call it a head shot, should be 2 minutes.

    Not Aulie’s fault Stajan is smaller. Stajan could have put his arms up.

  25. Gordies Elbow says:

    hoser313,

    Suicide pass, head down. Should have been a penalty, but 5 minutes?

    How about the calls for the punches while Aulie was held by the linesman?

  26. Zelepukin says:

    Even though it’s a pretty smart and effective strategy by Perron to constantly use his body in puck protection while he hangs onto itk too long, it does irk me how damn slow he is. No where near NHL speed.

  27. Gerta Rauss says:

    Eberle!!

  28. Lowetide says:

    Nice shot by Eberle there.

  29. dawgtoy says:

    Nice play by Schultz.

  30. Henry says:

    Holy shit. These are not the same Oilers I’ve been watching the past couple of months.

  31. dawgtoy says:

    Weak call, the only reason for the elbow was Jooris tries to avoid the hit. BS

  32. dawgtoy says:

    FFS!

  33. Ryan says:

    Henry:
    Holy shit.These are not the same Oilers I’ve been watching the past couple of months.

    I haven’t been watching, but they’re back to getting outshot and winning.

  34. Lowetide says:

    Scrivens needs to commit less on that goal. Lordy. And the Pitlick hit wasn’t a penalty.

  35. striatic says:

    I like these mid ice hits, even if they get penalized sometimes. If the Oilers can blow up more plays in the neutral zone, it’ll make regaining possession a lot easier. Own the neutral zone.

  36. flyfish1168 says:

    Johnny yahoo poor coverage in d-zone . Ebs scores.

  37. striatic says:

    Ryan: I haven’t been watching, but they’re back to getting outshot and winning.

    Score effects go both ways. It’ll be interesting to see how the 3rd goes, now that the game is close again.

  38. thejonrmcleod says:

    Garbage call on Pitlick.

  39. striatic says:

    Also pretty easy to get outshot when you’re taking more penalties than the other team and not getting shots on your own power play.

  40. Henry says:

    Ryan: I haven’t been watching, but they’re back to getting outshot and winning.

    The Oilers aren’t playing like they are depressed. They are opening the ice up. Hall is the fastest man again. My wife said (again) that Klefbom is a stud.

  41. Zelepukin says:

    Lowetide:
    Scrivens needs to commit less on that goal. Lordy. And the Pitlick hit wasn’t a penalty.

    ‘over-committing’ has been the source of most of our problems this season. One of my favourites is when our forwards are pressing the D on the regroup in their zone and swing over to take away the d-to-d pass, but so early and so deep that the D man just moves the puck up ice and our guy is completely out of the play.

  42. thejonrmcleod says:

    62.5 CF% at even strength for the Oilers so far.

  43. Gordies Elbow says:

    Wow, through 2, and no comments from the opposition. Edmonton wins, and it’ll be pretty quiet. Edmonton loses, and I’d bet that there will be a few posters talking about how the Flames are better than the Oilers.

    I hate that Edmonton is in the Eichel/McDavid sweepstakes. Hate it. That said, if you’re missing the playoffs, as both these teams will, isn’t it better to get a generational player?

    Would I trade teams for where the Flames are now? No. As I said earlier – I think that the Flames are in the Gagner/Nilsson/Cogliano/Brule/Pouliot years. Lots of talent coming down the pipe, but how much will help?

    Brodie is a 2008 draft. Gio is 31. Hiller 32. Peak years?

  44. Kitchener says:

    Tuning into my first game in several days. It sure is nice seeing this team instead of last week’s trainwreck. Also, 4-93-14 on a regular shift is a sight for sore eyes.

    LT – my respectful blog feedback on your use of twitter embeds is that they become disruptive to the flow quickly. Restated, one or two may help a post, but generally less is more. If you were a shitty writer, which in my view you are certainly not, I’d suggest the opposite!

  45. Ryan says:

    Henry: The Oilers aren’t playing like they are depressed.They are opening the ice up.Hall is the fastest man again.My wife said (again) that Klefbom is a stud.

    striatic: Score effects go both ways. It’ll be interesting to see how the 3rd goes, now that the game is close again.

    Nice. Thanks guys!

  46. TemujinBC says:

    Boy this script… Not liking it

  47. Zelepukin says:

    Jultz is gonna Jultz. every. damn. game.

  48. striatic says:

    Going to second Kitchener .. one or two twitter embeds per post.

  49. voxwah says:

    Man, Shultz is king of the tank. You couldn’t play that any worse.

  50. flyfish1168 says:

    voxwah:
    Man, Shultz is king of the tank. You couldn’t play that any worse.

    Most dangerous player for us

  51. alice13 says:

    I had too much to dream last night

  52. TemujinBC says:

    Thecaptainandrewference! He should have lept into drai’s arms

  53. TemujinBC says:

    Colburn had a lot of space to operate there.

  54. Kitchener says:

    Happy EST New Year to all*!

    * except Flames fans

  55. Zelepukin says:

    ya Klef jultzed up the coverage on that one.

  56. Ryan says:

    Wasn’t dry saddle assigned to kelona? 2 primary apples before he is sent down?

  57. Gordies Elbow says:

    Gordies Elbow,

    Flames even, no comments. Flames win? I’d bet comments. Anyone from the Flames contingent that wants to comment now?

  58. flyfish1168 says:

    Horrible line change

  59. Gret99zky says:

    Lazy line change. Again.

  60. frjohnk says:

    Did hall deflect that?

  61. Lowetide says:

    I’m not going to blame Scrivens there, that line change was truly awful.

  62. Zelepukin says:

    Jultzed it good there.

  63. frjohnk says:

    They were gassed but they gotta get it deep for a change

  64. GCW_69 says:

    How can you do a line change like that in overtime?

    Needs to be some accountability around that.

  65. Gordies Elbow says:

    Gordies Elbow,

    McDavided it there.

    Neither team making the playoffs, but Edmonton should have won that one.

  66. dsr29 says:

    How do you start 3 on 3 in OT with Hall, Ference and Shultz. Unbelievable. I would think a centre to win the draw might be an ok option. And I don’t blame Scrivens but he had a good chance on the tying and winning goals. He is what he is and it’s not nearly enough.

  67. frjohnk says:

    In fairness to Schultz his man ( wideman) was in front of him.
    So his change by himself is not so bad.
    Ferences guy was behind him and he changed

    This is all on Ference

  68. flyfish1168 says:

    Every time I see Colbourne play I think of of eakins. How did he miss that one and for a 4th rounder.

  69. LostBoy says:

    Done in by a patented line change chance.

    Eh, I’m still reasonably happy. Eye trumps awful small sample size shot metrics last night and tonight. And eye says something’s different. Who knows how long it lasts. This is the Nelson bounce. I honestly don’t think MacTavish should have been on the bench. We’ll see what happens Friday.

    Two primary assists in nine whopping minutes of icetime for Leon makes you wonder. The plan seems to be Anton getting the push of all pushes with his AHL coach. It’s still probably the best plan for both players. But I do wonder what Leon is going to do Friday night.

    I’ll take tonight’s result.

  70. TemujinBC says:

    Well that’s one that got away.

    Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

  71. Snowman says:

    So does Mact keep the german around then?

    I hate the phlegms.

  72. Gret99zky says:

    Leon goes down is the right move. Now and for the future.

  73. Surly says:

    Tough to play two full periods with only 5 D on the second half of a back-to-back. Horrible line change in OT but will give credit to the rule putting the goalie at the far end of the ice from the bench…caused a goal tonight in a game that might have gone to the SO.

    The team is actually enjoyable to watch again.

    Happy New Year.

  74. Hammers says:

    Actually enjoyed the game , Scrivens in goal , Schultz with some effort , Klefbom seemed involved , the gut it out from the forwards . Can actually say I saw a team that was trying . Wondering if I’m not seeing this for what it was in the end , and that’s another loss .

  75. Yeti says:

    @jonwillis Lagavulin. Shit, yes! God yes! Thanks!! Happy new year to all!

  76. flyfish1168 says:

    Happy News years everyone

  77. Lowetide says:

    Happy New Year!!!

  78. TemujinBC says:

    Cheers and HNY to all. I can hear fireworks from my hotel room but can’t see ’em.

    Rock on o/

  79. jp says:

    Ryan:
    Wasn’t dry saddle assigned to kelona?2 primary apples before he is sent down?

    Guess he reads Lowetide…

    That’s good, right?

  80. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Happy. New. Year. From west coast.

  81. skidplate says:

    Happy New Year all. All the best in 2015!!!

  82. Messier11edm says:

    Can someone please explain to me how an embellishment penalty can be called, when a tripping call is made on the other player??? I’ve seen this a few times and it really baffles me. I can understand an embellishment call on its own, but how can you have both??

  83. Messier11edm says:

    Re: Aulie hit, I feel that call was made based on reputation as opposed to reality hit. I could perhaps accepted a minor for elbowing, but a major and game misconduct? That seemed excessive.

    Think it was mentioned earlier by someone else, 15-20 yrs ago, that would’ve been a typical Scott Stevens open ice hit.

  84. PhrankLee says:

    Happy New Year, LT, Mrs. LT and Raucous Assembly.

    It’s mental. Nelson has his work cut out for him. They played a 200 foot game to get the lead and tried to defend only 100 feet. That set up a line change when the puck was only at center. They are not there yet.

    Must defend as a group no matter where they are on the ice. The ol’ “Get-it-to-the-forwards-and-let-em-do-their-thing” Does NOT work for this crew.

    200′ group defense the surest way to begin dictating the play. If you are defending properly there is no guess work as to where the play goes.
    Because of your proper defensive positioning you force the opposition into predictable plays which the proper defending is not responding to the offence but forcing them to do what you need as a defender. Your line mates, if in position, are coached to support the puck and you along with it.

    I bet the corsi close is brutal when we lead. (I dont know, don’t judge me)

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