PANTHERS AT OILERS, G43 2014-15

The game Friday night was soup for the soul. Nail Yakupov scoring a dynamite goal, Anton Lander delivering a pass that required terrific skill, Oscar Klefbom as last man standing at the doorstep (kind of like John Wayne in The Searchers) and every last one of them a possible arrow for the future. If the Oilers simply added those three to their already impressive young arsenal of NHL players? Music! We could talk about the team over summer as having three C options (Nuge, Lander, Gordon) and two scoring wingers (Hall, Eberle, Yakupov) and two actual NHL defensemen (Fayne, Klefbom). It’s not perfect but it’s a helluva lot better with than without. Right?

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I was thinking about this yesterday while speaking to Bruce McCurdy on SSE. One way the Edmonton Oilers could instantly send a message to the fan base and absolutely give us confidence in the forensic movement? Sign Jeff Petry. Seriously. Signing Petry indicates the Oilers have their heads on straight, that the Perron deal wasn’t a dive into another rebuild but rather an effort to tweak the club and move more assets to the middle of the ice.

IF the Oilers sign Jeff Petry AND the three men above become regulars who can be counted on, the number of drafted Oilers who will be making a difference jumps markedly in a heartbeat:

  • Defense: Jeff Petry, Oscar Klefbom, Darnell Nurse
  • Center: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Anton Lander, Leon Draisaitl
  • Left Wing: Taylor Hall
  • Right Wing: Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov

The number jumps from 5 to 9, from 22% to 39% of the roster. It also reduces the number of ‘unproven rookie’ slots to just two (Nurse and Leon) pending the first-round selection.

QUICK HITS (HEY, YOU’RE AN ALL-STAR)

  • Taylor Hall: “It’s so fun to win and it does make you forget about what place you are in the standings for a couple of days. For us, we need that. We need to be a relaxed group.”Source
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will represent Edmonton at the All-Star Game.

SAVING NAIL A BIG DAMN DEAL!

If the only thing Todd Nelson does is unlock Nail Yakupov between now and the end of the season, we should consider that to be Everest. More important than winning the lottery is getting the in-house talent driving on all eight pistons and the biggest problem is the young Russian. Let him loose and find him a comfort zone and this team will have two scoring lines.

One of the stories that has become part of the accepted verbal is that Nail has struggled all three seasons. He certainly did have some tough moments all three years but this one really did look like a ‘modern Patrik Stefan’ story waited at the end.

YAKUPOV PLAYER CARD

yakupov player cardYakupov’s shots on goal total is identical to a year ago but he’s off by one-half a point per 60 at evens and his shooting percentage is horrible. You can say ‘it’ll turn around’ but I submit to you a veteran NHL center like Derek Roy is vital and confidence is key with this young man. This comes down to communication, and Nelson seems to be helping the young man substantially.

Am I making things up to fit the inevitable improvement of shooting percentage? Or has the change in the weather combined with an actual NHL center returned the smile to Nail Yakupov?

We wait.

 

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  1. Lowetide says:

    Bad luck on the goal, although Scrivens went down early and appeared to have lost his net.

  2. VanOil says:

    Auston Matthews ’16: I missed the goal, but saw the last second of the replay – was that TCAF behind the net?

    I don’t know who to blame so I will accept personal responsibility for not having started drinking yet.

  3. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    VanOil: I don’t know who to blame so I will accept personal responsibility for not having started drinking yet.

    Tsk tsk.

    Edit: I started about 45 minutes ago, after fixing my water heater. I guess you could say, the tank is on!

  4. Klima's_Bucket says:

    The Panthers have a few UFA wingers the Oilers may want to take a look at for their bottom six next summer.
    Bergenheim and Upshall in particular bring something the Oilers don’t have.

  5. oliveoilers says:

    Auston Matthews '16: Tsk tsk.

    Edit: I started about 45 minutes ago, after fixing my water heater. I guess you could say, the tank is on!

    Nice one, Gene Prince-o-puns!

  6. Lowetide says:

    That pass by Fayne was horrible. Yak did that go back into my own end thing again. I should have gone to the game.

  7. smellyglove says:

    Lowetide,

    LT, MacT is more generous with Nelson in terms of roster quality? You really think the team is better without Perron, but + Roy?

    What about the fact that Eakins had a much better roster to work with than his two predecessors ?

  8. Suntory Hanzo says:

    We got back from installing my mom in laws dehumidifier. In driveway my wife says: we didn’t pick up any more sauce for tonight. I say, that’s ok,I’m not supposed to be drinking anyways.

    Start watching the colts broncos… I remark that there was still a leftover drink from last night in the fridge. She says: you are thinking about having a drink then? You better go and get some more. It is game night after all.

    Always find someone that truly understands what’s important.

    Although I did find it odd when after the Chicago game ended I went to recap on here as I usually do while the game is one, but we had guests, she said: you just watched the game and now you need to read about it.

    An obvious Yes was in order. She didn’t even roll her eyes. She also dressed my one year old second tier fan in an Oilers onesy. So she gets partial credit.

  9. VanOil says:

    Klefbom is good but not help Jultz not be truly awful good.

  10. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    So now it’s Fraser Lander Yak? the FLY line?

  11. leadfarmer says:

    Schultz must be practicing his slap shot with Nikitin. Strong and way of target

  12. oliveoilers says:

    Wow. Listening to the game as Gamecenter sucks. A stat was just kicked out the Bjugstad was the top scorer for the Cats last year with 38 points. Holy, imagine the gnashing of the teeth if our top scorer had 38 points. That’s under half what we expect him to get!

    And did they just say that Yak was playing with Lander and Fraser? If so, why the change?

  13. G Money says:

    spoiler: Vic used to say something to the effect that you would need a best of a 100 to truly erase “luck” from a hockey series and be certain the better team won. Not to mention remove injuries. If that’s what you mean by “deserves”.

    Sorry, but if Vic said that, that’s all kinds of silly.

    You will never erase “luck”, nor injuries, from influencing the outcome. It’s not a matter of influencing, it’s a matter of determining the outcome.

    No, what I mean by “better team” is the team that played better hockey overall and deserved to win, by whatever subjective or objective measure you care to apply other than the actual final score.

    In a single hockey game, it’s quite common for the team that played better to lose. Happens all the time.

    Even in a three game series, a couple of bad mistakes in a couple of games can cost you the series.

    By the time you get to five games? Very unlikely the better team loses.

    And if a team wins four times out of (a possible) seven straight games, you are on very thin ground in claiming that the better team lost.

    And by the time you get to a team that won those types of series four straight times against four different opponents … yeah, whatever influence luck had in determining that particular outcome has pretty much vanished into the mists.

    BTW, in a 100 game series, whatever diminished influence “luck” will have will have almost certainly been completely offset by the influence of injuries.

  14. VanOil says:

    oliveoilers: Yak was playing with Lander and Fraser? If so, why the change?

    He was dangerously close to looking like an NHL player, playing with other NHL players. This is not the Oilers way.

  15. G Money says:

    5×5 CF in the first period 59% for FLA.

    However, pretty much the entire delta between the Oilers and the Panthers was missed shots. The Panthers missed 6 more. ALL of them were from inside home plate.

    That is very very weird (and not a good sign since they shouldn’t miss that many shots from that close, and shouldn’t count on them continuing to do so).

  16. Lowetide says:

    Eberle scores, he’s starting to find the range.

  17. Lowetide says:

    Eberle (Nugent-Hopkins, Hall)

  18. LMHF#1 says:

    Yakupov back with Roy and Pouliot. Appears he was being doubled-up.

  19. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Yak is on the puck like a dog on a bone. Relentless!

  20. Jonathan Willis says:

    Double agent Nikita Nikitin is doing what he does best.
    *sabotage*

  21. GCW_69 says:

    Jonathan Willis:
    Double agent Nikita Nikitin is doing what he does best.
    *sabotage*

    We will learn a lot about Mact by what he does with Nikitin this summer.

    For now, he’s there for the tank

  22. Lowetide says:

    Hall with a nice back check there.

  23. Lowetide says:

    Niki Nikitin will lead us to McDavid, friends. No worries.

  24. jake70 says:

    Breakouts not their strong point tonight.

  25. Diesel says:

    Pouliot is absolutely terrible tonight. I’ve seen three passes from the half-wall in our end to the middle of the ice, all of which were turned over.

    If Yakupov did that…. well, you know where I’m going with that.

  26. Klima's_Bucket says:

    If Yak didn’t spread his legs like a two-bit whore every time he crossed the opposition blue line he’d have a hell of a lot more points and shots. Close those legs buddy! Have you no shame?

  27. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Diesel: Pouliot is absolutely terrible tonight

    But I thought the crowd was chanting, ‘Pooooooooo…’?

  28. Lowetide says:

    Another terrific Hall moment, this one resulting in a power-play for the good guys. And Nikitin.

  29. leadfarmer says:

    I don’t care what the Corsi, PDO, fenwick is. The games were unwatchable before, and now they are entertaining again.

  30. Lowetide says:

    Damien Cox on Oilers broadcasts for 11 more years!! YEAH BABY!

  31. Lowetide says:

    Marco Roy with an assist today, 34GP, 18-14-32 now.

  32. Ryan says:

    What happened today all of the Ryans in the oilers org?

    Go fla!

  33. Lowetide says:

    51% on the Corgi’s, I think Scrivens has been just okay but won’t blame him for the deficit. I think Edmonton wins this game if the Nuge line comes out like that again in the third period.

  34. Diesel says:

    I can only assume that the William Wallace moonlight wedding scene I’m watching is more valuable to my Oiler knowledge than whatever Damien Cox had to offer.

  35. Zelepukin says:

    The forecheck does seem to be generating good possession and point-shot opportunities.

  36. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Zelepukin:
    The forecheck does seem to be generating good possession and point-shot opportunities.

    Yup. Credit the Panths for playing heavy hockey, and solid defense.

  37. jake70 says:

    Ummm Sportsnet, you interviewed a Moncton Hospital employee and you are showing the exterior of the G Dumont french hospital for the piece…good work.

  38. VanOil says:

    Diesel,

    Princes’s Afro is more valuable to my Oiler knowledge than whatever Damien Cox had to offer.

  39. Lowetide says:

    jake70:
    Ummm Sportsnet, you interviewed a Moncton Hospital employee and you are showing the exterior of the G Dumont french hospital for the piece…good work.

    Haha. Lordy.

  40. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    jake70:
    Ummm Sportsnet, you interviewed a Moncton Hospital employee and you are showing the exterior of the G Dumont french hospital for the piece…good work.

    They got a hospital. That’s pretty good for Spurtznet!

  41. PhrankLee says:

    3 weak games out of Fayne in a row.

    Well 3 games with bad bad decisions.

  42. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Scrivens clearly doesn’t know who McJesus is!

  43. RexLibris says:

    Diesel:
    I can only assume that the (insert peasant vision documentary) I’m watching is more valuable to my Oiler knowledge than whatever Damien Cox had to offer.

  44. kinger_OIL says:

    Since when did CityTV start putting on hockey games, for those of us in Ontario?

  45. wheatnoil says:

    Lowetide:
    Damien Cox on Oilers broadcasts for 11 more years!! YEAH BABY!

    Damn it LT! Some people come to this site for hope!

  46. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Well. McJesus!

  47. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Fayne doing his best double agent impressions tonight…

  48. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Pooooooooooo!

  49. Jonathan Willis says:

    Man, Nikitin and Fayne had that spot behind the net totally covered. They call that Gretzky’s office, right? Can’t blame the D, they had Gretzky’s office *down.*

  50. VanOil says:

    Petry channeling Hemsky

  51. jake70 says:

    kinger_OIL:
    Since when did CityTV start putting on hockey games, for those of us in Ontario?

    Pretty sure they get the weekly Hometown Hockey game. Every Sunday starting October.

  52. Klima's_Bucket says:

    4 posts for FLA tonight so far…

  53. wheatnoil says:

    Roy made that second goal happen with a smart couple plays, including a smart play in the neutral zone to get the zone entry.

    Real NHL centers… huh.

  54. leadfarmer says:

    Jonathan Willis,

    Fayne is having a rough game.

    The captain will make MacDavid happen.

  55. jake70 says:

    Jonathan Willis:
    Man, Nikitin and Fayne had that spot behind the net totally covered. They call that Gretzky’s office, right? Can’t blame the D, they had Gretzky’s office *down.*

    JW, where is that pic of Marc Antoine Pouliot you used to have for this blog? Why don’t you dust that off? 🙂

  56. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Hendricks takes Guddy off for 5 minutes. Nice trade off.

  57. wheatnoil says:

    Man, that Klefbom is pretty much the definition of a mobile defenseman.

  58. linkfromhyrule says:

    GREAT PLAY BY THE CAPTAIN ANDREW FERENCE

  59. LMHF#1 says:

    Andrew Ference for the loss. Again.

    What an idiot.

  60. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Ference gonna Ference.
    Ference wants McDavid. Gotta admire that leadership!!

    Oilers should sign Bergenheim this summer.

  61. VanOil says:

    Bad Yak making the Captain use his stick.

  62. Lowetide says:

    I’ll always have Friday.

  63. jake70 says:

    Yak had about 15 feet there at the blue line on his right…..decided to go left instead.

  64. LMHF#1 says:

    jake70:
    Yak had about 15 feet there at the blue line on his right…..decided to go left instead.

    So what? He had puck support. Not his fault it was a guy who’d be better at hockey without a stick and readily gives up a defensively superior position.

  65. jake70 says:

    LMHF#1: So what? He had puck support. Not his fault it was a guy who’d be better at hockey without a stick and readily gives up a defensively superior position.

    He went left toward the middle of the ice and there were 2 Panthers there….turnover, back of net.

  66. leadfarmer says:

    jake70,

    His skates still move at twice the speed of his brain. Having veteran help has helped but he still has a way to go.

    I do wonder since Klefbom and marincin were battling for one roster spot earlier this season and now Klefbom is probably our second best defenseman maybe they should give the other guy a shot too.

  67. Bling says:

    While Ference really should have made a better play — and by that I mean any play — Scrivens should have made a god damn save.

    Come on man.

    He needs to keep them to 3G.

    In the minutes preceding that, Luongo made a couple of really nice saves to keep Florida out in front. Scriv should have had the answer there.

  68. RexLibris says:

    Mason out two weeks. Howard on IR.

    Fasth was had for a ’14 5th rounder and a ’15 3rd rounder.

    I wonder if they can recoup any of that value or sell for less this year.

  69. wheatnoil says:

    I blame Petry.

  70. linkfromhyrule says:

    Yak shouldn’t have tried to deke two players, but…. that is irrelevant of the fact that his captain can’t effectively play hockey when he needs to use his stick. He finished the night -2, cost them a goal, and took a penalty in the 3rd period.

    That defense will win us McDavid yet.

  71. Bling says:

    Overall, though, pretty happy with the effort.

    The big line looks way better, and the supporting cast is chipping in as well.

    The team, overall, looks much faster. The execution is crisp. I only saw the last 10 minutes or so, but very nice breakouts and good possession in the o-zone. Lots of urgency to shoot the puck, which was great.

    You can really see some offensive upside to Klef’s game now; he seems confident in stepping up, and made a few dandy plays in the neutral zone to keep the attack going.

    I think they played well enough to win.

  72. Pouzar says:

    leadfarmer:
    Schultz must be practicing his slap shot with Nikitin.Strong and way of target

    The inability of this blue line corp to hit the net is mind numbing. Drives me f^ckin insane.

  73. wheatnoil says:

    RexLibris:
    Mason out two weeks. Howard on IR.

    Fasth was had for a ’14 5th rounder and a ’15 3rd rounder.

    I wonder if they can recoup any of that value or sell for less this year.

    Bachman has done a pretty good job in the AHL and I believe Nelson used to call him his NHL goaltender in the AHL. I’m on board with trading Fasth for anything, calling up Bachman and giving Broissoit the rest of the year to see if he can handle the starter’s role in the AHL.

  74. Bling says:

    See, I don’t mind that play from Yak.

    He needs to have the confidence to make plays, and all sorts of talented guys make turnovers like that — Hall, Hemsky, heck even Ryan Smyth (master of the no-look backhand sideboard pass, drove McTavish nuts).

    He wasn’t the last guy back, there was plenty of support behind him, it just all failed.

    Marincin is a guy that needs to be back up here.

  75. linkfromhyrule says:

    RexLibris:
    Mason out two weeks. Howard on IR.

    Fasth was had for a ’14 5th rounder and a ’15 3rd rounder.

    I wonder if they can recoup any of that value or sell for less this year.

    As long as the doesn’t look at his Sv% or his record, there might be a trade there! 2-10-2 .886Sv%. Woof.

  76. Bling says:

    wheatnoil,

    I think Bachman should get a shot as well.

    If he was 6’2 he’d probably have had his fair share by now, but being a 5’10 goalie is tough sledding.

    Lots of strong years in the AHL, including a few .920 plus seasons.

    But hell, if he can save the puck he can save the puck.

  77. Lowetide says:

    I know people don’t like this so I don’t say it much but wins don’t matter. One day they will, but they don’t know. We’ll know they matter when Niki Nikitin is off the team. Don’t get upset about it, honestly. The draft is the next period that matters, and I guess if they wake up and sign Petry.

  78. wheatnoil says:

    linkfromhyrule: As long as the doesn’t look at his Sv% or his record, there might be a trade there! 2-10-2 .886Sv%. Woof.

    The acquiring team wouldn’t be looking for a starter… they’d see he has a history of success, albeit in a relatively small sample size, and may be a better backup option than whoever their AHL call-up is. May be worth a 5th rounder, if there are no better options around… especially if their current backup goes through a run of not stopping the puck.

  79. Pouzar says:

    Mitch Marner picking up some major street cred on Twitter.
    Please Do tell Draft Gurus of LT.

  80. G Money says:

    Scrivens sv% .852. Was Eakins guest coaching or something?

  81. jp says:

    leadfarmer:
    jake70,

    His skates still move at twice the speed of his brain.Having veteran help has helped but he still has a way to go.

    I do wonder since Klefbom and marincin were battling for one roster spot earlier this season and now Klefbom is probably our second best defenseman maybe they should give the other guy a shot too.

    Lol, nice point. It appears the roster spot they’re fighting for is 1LD.

  82. Bling says:

    Lowetide:
    I know people don’t like this so I don’t say it much but wins don’t matter. One day they will, but they don’t know. We’ll know they matter when Niki Nikitin is off the team. Don’t get upset about it, honestly. The draft is the next period that matters, and I guess if they wake up and sign Petry.

    Disagree.

    Wins are a proxy for development.

    If Yak, Lander, Schultz get going, this team will win more games.

    If Nikitin is taken out of the lineup and replaced by Marincin, this team will win more games.

    If Petry is signed, we can have some confidence in management going into the summer.

    They absolutely should be trying to do everything in their power to win games right now, because next year, when things “matter”, they need to hit the ground running.

  83. G Money says:

    I quite liked half that game. Tons of intensity and hard work in the offensive zone.

    Tons of giveaways and boneheaded plays in the D zone, but hey – we already know the D is the weakest part of this team.

    I think the team can afford to have one of Ference, Schultz, and Nikitin on the roster, but not all three of them.

    Despite the giveaway, I thought Yak’s game was outstanding. And the giveaway was at least because of an attempt at trying to make something happen with an aggressive zone exit, not stupid or lazy. I have a lot more time for those types of errors.

    In any case, I think Ference wears the goat horn. Yak turns the puck over, but Petry completely rubbed out the puck carrier (soft bastard that he is), and the puck came to Ference while he had a solid step on the Florida player. All he had to do was protect it with his body, and instead he did basically everything wrong, leaving Guggenheim with a clear path to the net.

    And I agree with whoever said it, that might have been an open walk to the net, but the puck was not in that good a spot and it was bouncing, so the shot was crap and should have been stopped by Scrivens.

    Team effort to stay in the game, team effort to lose it…

  84. G Money says:

    Bling: because next year, when things “matter”, they need to hit the ground running.

    The Oilers and a huge number of other teams have had multiple seasons with late season surges which should have let them “hit the ground running” the next season, and I do not think it has ever had even the slightest effect.

    Teams finish strong and start strong the next season, they finish weak and start strong, they finish strong and start weak, and finish weak and start weak.

    That shouldn’t be surprising. The offseason followed by training camp and a bunch of preseason games is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long for anything as ephemeral as “momentum” to keep going in any way, shape, or form.

  85. oliveoilers says:

    Oh Nikita is the other side;
    Of any given line in time.
    Counting ten tin soldiers in a row;
    Oh no, Nikita you’ll never know.

    Thank you, Elton John!

    Also, in other news, Nelson comes up with a terrible save % tonight and makes TCAF bad at ice hockeys.

  86. oliveoilers says:

    Bling: Disagree.

    Wins are a proxy for development.

    If Yak, Lander, Schultz get going, this team will win more games.

    If Nikitin is taken out of the lineup and replaced by Marincin, this team will win more games.

    If Petry is signed, we can have some confidence in management going into the summer.

    They absolutely should be trying to do everything in their power to win games right now, because next year, when things “matter”, they need to hit the ground running.

    If my auntie had balls, she’d be my uncle.

  87. Lowetide says:

    Pouzar:
    Mitch Marner picking up some major street cred on Twitter.
    Please Do tell Draft Gurus of LT.

    Major surge while others were at WJ, spotlight on him. He’s probably the Ehlers of this draft, may go higher.

  88. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Lowetide: Major surge while others were at WJ, spotlight on him. He’s probably the Ehlers of this draft, may go higher.

    I think what LT is trying to say is that while the big Cats were away the mighty mouse Mitch Marner played…

  89. sliderule says:

    The good news for oilers

    Marner with 3 assists and plus 2 in a 5-3 loss to Eirie . 40 games 82 pts.

    Eichel with 2goals-2assists now with 31 pts in 18 games.

  90. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    oliveoilers: If my auntie had balls, she’d be my uncle.

    Or she might be your same-sex uncle.

  91. Woodguy says:

    I guess the Oilers still *name one of many things they do wrong* without Eakins on the bench.

    The biggest thing they do wrong is fill out the roster, especially on D.

    Putrid.

  92. sliderule says:

    Lowetide,

    Marner has a May birthday and I hope he is growing like most 17 year olds do.

    London site has him at 5-11 and 164 about the same weight as Nuge in his draft.

    He definetly plays bigger than measurements.

    If he keeps scoring like this he will be picked top five.

    Top five is were the oilers will pick so hopefully they are watching.

  93. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    I know people don’t like this so I don’t say it much but wins don’t matter. One day they will, but they don’t know. We’ll know they matter when Niki Nikitin is off the team. Don’t get upset about it, honestly. The draft is the next period that matters, and I guess if they wake up and sign Petry.

    I’m of two minds here.

    While I agree that maintaining prime draft position is the only way to salvage some of what has happened this season (much like last year in being able to pick one of the three centers at the top of the draft) I also think that the young players on the roster and around whom this enterprise is fashioned need to find wins as they go in order to at least reward good habits and encourage them that this is, indeed, the right path.

    If they listen to Nelson and wins come, then it might be enough to have them believe that this is the best way to play hockey.

    Now, if a Nikitin-esque error submarines the day, so be it, but there must be wins in there as well.

    I suppose you could say that the Oilers’ record must be, like their lineup, balanced.

  94. Woodguy says:

    sliderule:
    Lowetide,

    Marner has a May birthday and I hope he is growing like most 17 year olds do.

    London site has him at 5-11 and 164 about the same weight as Nuge in his draft.

    He definetly plays bigger than measurements.

    If he keeps scoring like this he will be picked top five.

    Top five is were the oilers will pick so hopefully they are watching.

    Oilers will take Crouse before Marner Because Lucic.

  95. Woodguy says:

    If this season of pain ends with the Oilers taking Crouse near the top of an exceptional draft I quit.

  96. kooler says:

    Missed the game.

    Fayne 15 min. Schlitz 23+ min…..Fayne bad?

  97. oilersfan says:

    Isnt marner a rw? Like this team needs more small wingers. Bam Stanley cup!

  98. Rondo says:

    Oilers will not take Crouse he is a winger.

    Center or D-man with their first pick

  99. El Duderino says:

    Lowetide,

    LT, I don’t think you should be at all reticent about stating this. In my view every win is 2 points further away from a top 2 pick. I’ll cheer like crazy if and when 30th is locked up. I do think it’s going to be close.

  100. Ryan says:

    Woodguy:
    I guess the Oilers still *name one of many things they do wrong* without Eakins on the bench.

    The biggest thing they do wrong is fill out the roster, especially on D.

    Putrid.

    Todd Nelson can be stopped.

  101. RexLibris says:

    Reviewing some of the draft-eligible young prospects and I’m skimming over Dergachyov.

    Big boy.

    Power forward.

    Skill w/ size.

    Plays C.

    Sounds like Yakimov.

  102. sliderule says:

    oilersfan,

    Well he is scoring at a P Kane pace.

  103. RexLibris says:

    I think i found the player that Burke and Holmgren will be fighting over at the draft: Jordan Greenway (LW)

    ’97 birthdate, 6’5″, 223lbs, 22gp, 2-15-17 and 32 PIM.

  104. wheatnoil says:

    RexLibris:
    Reviewing some of the draft-eligible young prospects and I’m skimming over Dergachyov.

    Big boy.

    Power forward.

    Skill w/ size.

    Plays C.

    Sounds like Yakimov.

    Well he put up a pretty good battle behind the net with Nurse in the gold medal game.

    Any idea of his skating speed?

  105. RexLibris says:

    …and a Finn for LT, Roope Hintz.

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=92117

    His bio reads like a Red Wings prospect.

    I like him already.

  106. hags9k says:

    Woodguy:
    If this season of pain ends with the Oilers taking Crouse near the top of an exceptional draft I quit.

    Well one thing I’ve learned over the last few seasons is that it can always get worse.
    But I’m with you, if we head into 15-16 with Kevin Lowe and a reach coke machine pick, I’m outta here.

  107. book¡je says:

    I am pretty sure we can now call this whole ‘Todd Nelson’ thing a failed experiment. I mean, its pretty obvious the guy has lost the room and destroyed all of our players under 25.

    Fire Todd Nelson!

  108. eidy says:

    RexLibris,

    That battle behind the net with Nurse at the World Juniors was fantastic. With the late 2nd early 3rd I have him as one of the guys and Filip Chlapik as the other.

    Chlapik is my Barbeshev pick. 1.2 PPG and playing 3rd line minutes based on face-off stats. Build up the middle.

    and sign petry

  109. wheatnoil says:

    book¡je:
    I am pretty sure we can now call this whole ‘Todd Nelson’ thing a failed experiment.I mean, its pretty obvious the guy has lost the room and destroyed all of our players under 25.

    Fire Todd Nelson!

    Free Gerry Fleming!

  110. book¡je says:

    G Money: The Oilers and a huge number of other teams have had multiple seasons with late season surges which should have let them “hit the ground running” the next season, and I do not think it has ever had even the slightest effect.

    Teams finish strong and start strong the next season, they finish weak and start strong, they finish strong and start weak, and finish weak and start weak.

    That shouldn’t be surprising.The offseason followed by training camp and a bunch of preseason games is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long for anything as ephemeral as “momentum” to keep going in any way, shape, or form.

    Every year my Mother in Law explains how March comes in like a lion and goes out like a lamb (and/or the other way) and every year at the end of March she talks about how true it is and ‘see, I told you so’, except for those years where it comes in like a lamb and goes out like a lamb or comes in like a lion and goes out like a lion. Those years she says surprisingly little at the end of March. I also say little, but its not surprising, its just being wise.

  111. Hammers says:

    Well back to basics for Nelson . I wasn’t totally disappointed with our 4 lines but the crazy mistakes still being made by our “D” will continue to cost us games . I originally figured Marincin by month end but Nelson needs to tell McT he wants him now . His not the total answer but its time some of our current “D” get benched . Send either Gazdic or Aulie down . Come to think of it send them both down for M.M. & either Pakirinen or Curtis Hamilton . Put some pressure on the wingers for ice time as well.

  112. G Money says:

    book¡je,

    Human beings are notorious for suffering from confirmation bias.

    Mother-in-laws are eight times more likely than the average human to suffer from confirmation bias*.

    * I have no data to support this, I’m putting it out narratively.

  113. Hammers says:

    LT forgot to mention but The Searchers with John Wayne is 1 of my 5 top westerns ever .

  114. Black Frank says:

    I hear Horcoff doesn’t want to play for Nelson any more…….

  115. RexLibris says:

    eidy:
    RexLibris,

    That battle behind the net with Nurse at the World Juniors was fantastic.With the late 2nd early 3rd I have him as one of the guys and Filip Chlapik as the other.

    Chlapik is my Barbeshev pick. 1.2 PPG and playing 3rd line minutes based on face-off stats.Build up the middle.

    and sign petry

    There were probably a dozen or more players listed there that fall outside the 1st round and whom I think the Oilers could realistically draft with 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks.

    I’ve been doing draft homework for years now and I don’t recall ever seeing this much size/skill so deep down the draft list. Usually after the early 2nd round you get high skill and diminutive size or meat hooks for hands on a kid who eats lawn furniture for breakfast.

    There’s also quite a few intriguing Swedish forwards and defenders in this year’s group.

    Going into the trade deadline I can honestly say that I’d be excited if they can add two extra picks. I think a good scouting group could net perhaps four or five promising young NHL players in this one year.

  116. Bling says:

    G Money: The Oilers and a huge number of other teams have had multiple seasons with late season surges which should have let them “hit the ground running” the next season, and I do not think it has ever had even the slightest effect.

    Teams finish strong and start strong the next season, they finish weak and start strong, they finish strong and start weak, and finish weak and start weak.

    That shouldn’t be surprising.The offseason followed by training camp and a bunch of preseason games is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long for anything as ephemeral as “momentum” to keep going in any way, shape, or form.

    I’m not talking about momentum, per se.

    What I’m talking about is ensuring that the tweeners — Yakupov, Lander, Schultz, Marincin — get better this year, and are in a position to be positive contributors next season.

    The best way to do that is to surround them with skilled, experienced players (ala Roy), put them in positions to succeed, and yes, try to win.

    Wins can be a mirage, this is true, but if the Corsi stays around 50% and the aforementioned players take a step forward, that’s a big deal.

    Especially if they can do it for 40+ games.

  117. frjohnk says:

    How bad is Buffalo?

    3 games that they have had a corsi over 50%.

    Their 3 shittiest games they have 28%, 24% and 22% corsi.

    In comparison Oiler have had 24 games with a corsi over 50%.

    Their 3 shittiest games they have had 35%,35% and 34% corsi.

    LA 30 games corsi over 50%. Lowest 3 corsi games 39,35,30

    Chicago 30 games corsi over 50%. Lowest 3 corsi games 43,40,30

    Calgary 16 games corsi over 50%. Lowest 3 corsi games 34,33,23

  118. knighttown says:

    frjohnk:
    How bad is Buffalo?

    3 games that they have had a corsi over 50%.

    Their 3 shittiest games they have 28%, 24% and 22% corsi.

    In comparison Oiler have had 24 games with a corsi over 50%.

    Their 3 shittiest games they have had 35%,35% and 34% corsi.

    LA 30 games corsi over 50%.Lowest 3 corsi games 39,35,30

    Chicago 30 games corsi over 50%.Lowest 3 corsi games 43,40,30

    Calgary 16 games corsi over 50%.Lowest 3 corsi games 34,33,23

    Good post. That’s the drum I’ve been beating. Edmonton is a lot closer, performance-wise, to an average team than they are to Buffalo. It’s Denmark vs. Finland in a 40 game series. Take the Finns 99 times out of a 100. We just saw the “1” but don’t bet on it t happen again.

    I also like the quote above that wins are a proxy for development. Win some games, lose some games, keep a good ticket for McDavid and cross your fingers. They aren’t catching Buffalo and therefore, aren’t getting Eichel.

  119. Ca$h-Money! says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but the way I read the standings on TSN it looks like Buffalo has 6 shootout wins (14 wins, but only 8 in regulation or overtime). If so, wow.

  120. russ99 says:

    Man, think how much better this team could be with even league-average defensemen in place of Nikitin and Ference.

    This is becoming a repetitive theme for MacT run teams. 3-4 big league defensemen and .75 big league goalies

    This has to be fixed in order for us to be better next season.

  121. Black Frank says:

    Bling: I’m not talking about momentum, per se.

    What I’m talking about is ensuring that the tweeners — Yakupov, Lander, Schultz, Marincin — get better this year, and are in a position to be positive contributors next season.

    The best way to do that is to surround them with skilled, experienced players (ala Roy), put them in positions to succeed, and yes, try to win.

    Wins can be a mirage, this is true, but if the Corsi stays around 50% and the aforementioned players take a step forward, that’s a big deal.

    Especially if they can do it for 40+ games.

    The biggest win is building from here, finishing the season on an extended roll, regaining the confidence, health, cohesiveness and goal scoring touch of Jultz and the first round picks, becoming a desired destination for free agents, whether they are already here or on the outside looking in.
    If we get Mickey Dee or Eishel except by way of a fluke jackpot win, they will be coming to a dispirited, fragmented team with most of the worthwhile players casting their eyes elsewhere. I prefer finishing strong.
    I believe most of the upcoming games between now and end of Jan are winnable, St Louis looks like a scheduled loss, the others, we should at least be in every game to the end. Here comes the measure of Coach Nellie. I wish him the very best.

    Edit: Oh, and how about replacing Nikitin with MM?

  122. Zangetsu says:

    I don’t care if we go .600 the rest of the way. The oilers will still not be a hot spot for UFA. It would be great if yak and jultz among others resurrected themselves, but thats pie in the sky. This is a bad hockey team on a lucky streak. McEichel had better be the goal, because unless some miracle happens this is not a playoff team next year.

  123. GCW_69 says:

    Woodguy:
    I guess the Oilers still *name one of many things they do wrong* without Eakins on the bench.

    The biggest thing they do wrong is fill out the roster, especially on D.

    Putrid.

    Frankly I would rather see

    Marincin – Petry
    Klefbom – Fayne
    Davidson – Schultz (very controlled minutes)

    Could not possibly be worse.

  124. rickithebear says:

    Ca$h-Money!:
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but the way I read the standings on TSN it looks like Buffalo has 6 shootout wins (14 wins, but only 8 in regulation or overtime).If so, wow.

    Playoffs are 5 X 5 after 3 periods.

    The best measure of teams is Reg wins against playoff teams. and a count versus own Conference
    PHI 3 of 15 ROW 2 EC
    OTT 3 of 14 ROW 1 EC
    COL 3 of 13 ROW 0 WC
    ARZ 3 of 13 ROW 2 WC VCR; WPG
    NJD 3 of 13 ROW 3 EC
    CAR 3 of 11 ROW 1 EC
    FLD 4 of 15 ROW 1 EC
    BOS 5 of 20 ROW 1 EC
    WPG 5 of 18 ROW 3 WC 2 CHI; 1 NSH
    MIN 5 of 16 ROW 1 WC WPG
    CLB 5 of 14 ROW 3 EC
    BUF 5 of 8 ROW 2 EC
    CGY 6 of 19 ROW 5 WC NSH; VCR; JS; WPG; LAK
    LAK 6 of 18 ROW 5 WC 2 VCR; STL, SJS, WPG
    EDM 7 of 9 ROW 2 WC CHI; SJS
    WSH 8 of 21 ROW 6 EC 2 TMP; DET; NYI; PIT; BOS
    DAL 8 of 16 ROW 5 WC 2 LAK; 2VCR; 1 STL
    VCR 9 of 21 ROW 4 WC CHI; STL; SJS; WPG
    SJS 10 of 20 ROW 7 WC 3 ANA; 2 WPG; 1 LAK; 1 NSH
    TOR 11 of 19 ROW 8 EC 2 DET; 2 NYR; TMP; NYI; WSH; BOS

    Sure would have liked Nelson for the whole season!

  125. rickithebear says:

    Florida Panthers:

    Luongo: cup Final Goalie

    Campbell #1D +/- 2010 playoffs
    Mitchell #1D +/- 2014 Playoffs

    Bolland #6 +/- FWD 2010 palyoffs
    Jokinen #15 +/- Fwd 2014 pplayoffs
    Kopecky Plus forward playoffs
    Bergenheim .5GPG playoff performer
    Upshall
    Flieshmann
    Mackenzie 55% faceoff center.
    Hayes 18 EVG/seaon player

    Florida has a strong Base!

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