SMOKIN’ ACES

Todd Nelson might be the most important callup this century. Without him, Anton Lander would have one skate in Timra, Martin Marincin would be sailing the Slovak Sea and God knows who would know about the dreaminess of Oscar Klefbom. I have real concerns about the Edmonton Oilers ability to identify defensemen—we’ve talked about this many times before—but it may be a more noxious issue. Why did it take Todd Nelson to trust these kids in NHL games? What kind of bias has been at play here? Why are we talking about a lack of defensemen when Klefbom and Marincin look so ready? I’m asking.

The biggest rookie worry? Craig MacTavish. Does he have (coming on) two years NHL experience as a GM or one year’s experience twice. This feels a lot like one of those horror movies where ‘the call is coming from inside the house!”

NELSON’S ACES

You cannot stop Todd Nelson. Last night, the following Barons played their hearts out for him:

    • D Oscar Klefbom 26:25 and the best player in the game (he or Nuge). Sublime talent, highlight reel stuff everywhere. Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water and the other one-third is covered by Oscar Klefbom (apologies to Garry Maddox).
    • D Martin Marincin 17:55 and played a solid if unspectacular game. Seems to be gaining confidence and finding the range, there’s no reason at all to pull him out of the lineup and I really question the wisdom of keeping him in the minors.
    • L Ryan Hamilton 14:26 played well, drilled a post and could have been a hero
    • C Anton Lander 13:19 scored a goal, skated miles and looked brilliant doing it. Made countless big league plays.
    • R Iiro Pakarinen 10:21 played hard without much reward but certainly engaged the opponent and played an honest game.

 

And yet that’s not really all of it. Nail Yakupov is far more dangerous now and that’s (hopefully) going to continue; Nuge-Eberle have broken out of their funk; Jeff Petry chooses to wheel far more now; Derek Roy is stepping up and mentoring the Russian. Yesterday at practice, Viktor Fasth got emotional and coach Nelson went over to talk to him. The story of that moment is a far cry from the Hall water bottle incident and I think it may show this team’s mental state: They are not walking around on egg shells and appear to be using their heads for more than a hat rack. I know Craig MacTavish is slow-playing the contributions of Todd Nelson, never mentions Martin Marincin’s name and seems hellbent to send Jeff Petry out of town, but he’s losing much of the fan base with this game plan. That was a fun night, one of very few I’ll remember (the NYR game Nov. 9 is my favorite game of the year) beyond the first days of spring.

LAST 10 GAMES

last 10 feb 13 The 2008 (Eberle), 2009 (Lander), 2010 (Hall, Marincin), 2011 (Nuge, Klefbom) and 2012 (Yakupov) draft are all represented here. The Klefbom and Lander offense is truly incredible based on their resume’s and one wonders how much we can expect from either player in terms of boxcars in the future. For now, it’s completely justifiable to enjoy the now. Todd Nelson’s impact on the roster is also obvious on this list.

NELSON’S APPROACH

    • Todd Nelson: “When you win a game like tonight it reinforces the message, right? We’re a team, I feel we have to play fast, we have to be competitive and we have to play at a very high tempo. That’s three good games in a row for us . . . we just want to keep this thing going. That’s why it was disheartening in New York (a nip-and-tuck 3-2 loss to the Islanders on Tuesday). The process was great, the work ethic was fantastic, we just didn’t get the result we wanted. Tonight we did, and I like the fact we stuck with it.” Source

 

This team started 7-22-7 and are 9-9-2 with Nelson solo. I’ve said time and again it doesn’t matter to me if the coach is a dink or an arrogant jerk but it clearly matters that the coach reaches the players and the team has success. 9-9-2 IS success for this team and the verbal (more ‘we’ than ‘I’) is perhaps a clue to how the players feel about the current coach. I understand Derek Roy and Rob Klinkhammer were added but folks the biggest change was behind the bench and it’s pretty obvious things are going well. I think Todd Nelson will be the Edmonton Oilers coach in 2015-16.


Yep.

khaira ferguson4Barons are in action tonight (plus tomorrow and Sunday) so I’ll have an item up at 5 about them. The OKC scoring in the last few games is interesting, including a minor surge from young Jujhar Khaira. He is 2-4-6 in his last 11 games and Curtis Hamilton has the same boxcars in his last 10 games.

TRADE DEADLINE

We’re seeing fewer mentions in media about the Oilers but I don’t think that has much to do with how much activity we’ll see at the deadline. I suspect MacT will send away Jeff Petry and Viktor Fasth, plus there will be significant interest in Boyd Gordon and Matt Hendricks. Will he get enough return to pull the trigger? Not sure. I also think a ‘hockey deal’ is possible, with someone like Martin Marincin perhaps giving enough value to an NHL team to satisfy an immediate NHL need. I bet Edmonton is interested in Bruins prospect goalie Malcolm Subban but that may be wishful thinking on my part.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

10 this morning, TSN1260 Friday on my mind! Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, Big Mouth Sports. Hockey day in Canada tomorrow, it’s a chance to look back on our youth and remember the game we played and enjoyed as kids. We’ll also talk about the Leafs burning it down.
  • Neal Livingston, Tend The Farm. The Oilers look a lot like the Barons and Neal knows them (and the coach) well. We’ll talk about dreamy Klefbom, the impossible Klefbom and Mount Marincin.
  • Darrin Bauming, TSN1290 Winnipeg. A huge week for the city, we’ll talk Jets and Blue Bombers.
  • Corey Graham, TSN1260 Oil Kings PBP. 3-7-0 in their last 10 has opened the door a little for teams outside the playoffs. We’ll talk to Corey about the BC road trip and the need for wins down the stretch.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide_ twitter and see you on the radio!

nhl standings feb 13

A win Saturday and things get interesting. Arizona and Toronto are reachable, Hurricanes and Blue Jackets appear to have recovered. The Oilers (imo) could finish as high as No. 26 overall.

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  1. thejonrmcleod says:

    “Yesterday at practice, Viktor Fasth got emotional and coach Eakins went over to talk to him.” Is this a typo or a joke?

  2. OilSafety says:

    That was one entertaining game last night. I don’t care about draft position as much as I care about having something worth cheering for on the ice!

    Sign Petry,
    Play Marincin,
    Drysattle/Nurse in the AHL 2015-2016 season
    If were out of the top two next year turn our pics into players that can contribute now!

    Go Oilers!

  3. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    I don’t think Klefbom would have been anywhere else. Lander, Marincin, maybe. Klefbom doesn’t belong in that bucket, though. MacT has had hearts in his eyes whenever he talks about him for some time. If you’re giving Nelson some of the credit for helping him down in OKC, sure, but the kid has had the talent for a while now, so I don’t think he would have been shipped out like you seem to imply above: “God knows who would know about the dreaminess of Oscar Klefbom.”

    What happened with Fasth in practice? He is a fiery guy. Saw that in person in Toronto. Do you mind enlightening us or is it locker-room only stuff?

  4. rich says:

    Excellent post. The biggest question hanging over the trade deadline now is how much recalibration is taking place given the results Todd Nelson has produced the last 20 games.

    The best leaders are those who learn from their mistakes instead of digging in and my concern is that that MacT’s stubbornness is going to sewer another season next year because of his handling of the blueline. We will see it in that if he sends away Petry at the deadline and decides that Nurse is best served next season learning to play the pro game in the NHL instead of learning it in the AHL.

    It’s very obvious the coach saw that Ference was a liability and besides hiding him w/Petry he reduced his minutes significantly last night. If anything, he should be the player sent packing at the trade deadline and you use that money to help re-sign Petry.

    Tip of the hat to Nelson for showing that he’s more than capable of handling this job. Also a tip of the hat to him for showing that maybe the Oilers 2nd round picks weren’t so bad after all, that it once again is all about the philosophy of forcing young kids to learn at a level they aren’t ready for.

    When this changes, we’ll know that this organization is finally ready to turn north.

  5. slopitch says:

    Oilers may have dodged a bullet on the Lander waivers situation earlier in the year. Thats on MacT too.

    Safe to say they won the Penner trade? Took 4 years, but Klef looks real.

    Fasth let in 2 softies and the Oilers missed several grade A chances. Great game by the Oilers.

    Perhaps a nice run here will be enough to convince Petry there is enough progress to resign. It would be madness to let Petry walk and have NN on the roster for the same money. Id be fine with 26th overall. Thats a good shot at the lottery with a very good prospect the more likely scenario. It might be ideal even. Get the chosen one or get a player they can develop slowly (properly).

  6. slopitch says:

    Also why they hell would Lander have gotten no looks while Arco and Drai were struggling earlier. Did he really just come out of no where?

  7. cmcousine says:

    The idea (from the talking heads last night) was that Edmonton needs to move all UFA’s is silly. I agree with LT (and all other sensible people) that Petry needs to be signed. As far as the other UFA’s, what is the chemistry and mentorship of Roy to young Yak worth? Do we really need to send Roy away? Why not see if we can sign him? Fasth is the only UFA I would say is a slam-dunk to move. Keep the rest and let the players build on what they’ve started, see what shakes out in the summer. What’s LT say; keep your powder dry? I agree.

  8. oliveoilers says:

    ” Yesterday at practice, Viktor Fasth got emotional and coach Eakins went over to talk to him.”

    Sorry LT, I only highlighted this because Bob Stauffer keeps calling Todd ‘Eakins’. 😉

    I actually got to watch the game last night. I live 40mins north of Peace River. We cancelled TV, as we don’t usually have time to watch and I made the monumental error of subscribing to GameCenter, so I usually listen to the games if GC is being weird, which is often.

    Last night, I finished off some wiring to my friends water system so he can move into his new palace, and after we went for a beer at the local. Well, the place was crowded, and in the last two years, I have caught the odd game there on wing night. Always a muted affair. But I have to tell you, last night was different.

    It was business as usual, with people kind of paying half attention to the game and making the usual jokes about the Oilers, in the usual good natured way of fans who know their team sucks, but it’s still their team. The 3rd period began, and more and more people started paying attention, like the first drops of a rain storm.

    There was an audible murmur when Klef stacked the pads (true un-embellished story from an NBC anchor). The crowd thought it was a valiant effort, but ultimately futile.

    There was a slight cheer when Nuge sent us to OT, but still mutterings of ‘watch them eff this up’.

    Then Gilbert ran the goalie, with no call! (Zebra’s missed THAT one!)

    The place , the whole place, cheered. Well, except the Habs fans.

    For the first time, since the magical cup run, in all the times I’ve been in a non-descript bar and watch a passionless, putrid, steaming shit sandwich served to me, of which I’m expected to take a bite, choke it down and call it good, have I seen the Oilers actually inspire a group of people to cheer for them and their ice hockeys.

    Tier Two for ever!

  9. jbfuzz says:

    Trade Ference. Sign Petry. This is absolutely possible.

    Any thoughts on goalies? LT keeps raising the ghost of Niemi but yikes, average goalie on really good teams. He’d get shelled here. I think it’s possible they gamble on goalie with diminishing returns this season like a Lehtonen, Bishop or Reimer/Bernier. No proven options will be available, so we’ll see how MacLowe rolls the dice this summer.

  10. dustrock says:

    Whether or not Nelson is directly responsible for the emergence of Lander, Klefbom, Schultz, Yakupov, and even Gazdic, he certainly isn’t hurting anything. Klefbom was trusted by Eakins I think, but he’s definitely improved his game in the last 10 games to something approaching his play for Sweden at the WJHC.

    Lander is playing like a veteran 3C. He looks like a different player. He’s playing on the PP. He’s playing on the PK. He’s playing in OT. He even tried a move on Subban that almost worked last night.

    You cannot underestimate the value that McDavid and Eichel are going to bring to whichever lucky teams get them, but seeing the team play with hustle and passion for me, as an Oilers fan, seems more important. That’s what my heart tells me.

  11. zatch says:

    Report: She said yes! The view of downtown was incredible. She laughed and called me a goof as she did it, but she was so giddy she couldn’t sleep after

    We left with 3 minutes left, and so missed the fireworks, but here are my impressions by eye:

    That 4th line is worth a damn minus Gazdic. He played much better than I expected. It’s still not good enough. He squandered chances.
    Lander and Klef looked like wiley vets out there. Loved it.
    Ebs and Nuge are the men of this team and it isn’t close.
    Schultz was awful. At one point Desharnais was coming down the wing on a 2 on 2 and Schultz turned himself inside out somehow for no reason and almost fell over.
    At one point, Purcell blew by a habs D and I was shicked. Then I saw it was Markov.
    If you play this game 10 more times, thr average score is 5-2 Oilers. They dominated for long stretches and wiffed a lot of chances.
    Habs have massive issues. The team is so talented they overcome bad coachIng. Therrien won’t get fired even when he should and I strongly feel it will cost Montreal a cup this decade.

  12. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    oliveoilers,

    Great story, Olive. I was heartbroken after the loss in Long Island. That tells me something. It was a Thursday night here and my friends were out, but the Leafs were going to be on every TV in town. So I stayed in and rode the roller coaster til the end. After the painful loss in Long Island, I felt that dread again when Max Pac scored off of one bad bounce after a period of domination by the Oilers. But Klefbom saved the day. Saved all of us, really, and I couldn’t have been happier for having not gone out.

  13. LMHF#1 says:

    So, circling back on something from earlier: What do we need to come up with to identify D like Klefbom who will succeed despite the lack of scoring evidence, and separate them from that large group where “no points, no chance” rings true?

  14. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    zatch,

    Congratulations!!!!! We were waiting half the night to hear from you; we speculated it was for a good reason, but we weren’t sure, of course. That’s fantastic. Congrats again!

  15. Ribs says:

    I’ve always proposed that there are three ways to win hockey games in this league. You can outwork them, you can outskill them, or you can outwork and outskill them. The third option is always the goal and if you’re winning games the other two ways, you’re not doing enough.

    Todd Nelson has the Oilers outworking teams right now. Eakins was working on the skill game but they were too far away to get wins from it alone.

    I’m enjoying seeing the team work for some wins right now, but I really hope they don’t stray too far away from improving their skill game. Hard work can only get you so far most of the time in this league.

  16. Ducey says:

    It may be time to change Lander’s name to ‘Landed’.

  17. dustrock says:

    I believe twitter was saying yesterday Fasth was struggling a bit in practice and got pissed off at himself.

    PETRY – we can keep trying to convince Mac T to sign Petry, but it’s also up to Petry as well. Does this last stretch of games suck him back in? Don’t forget he rejected a multi-year deal at the beginning of the season.

    NIEMI – Sharks are my #2 team. One of the downfalls of the Sharks (not Thornton!) has been the playoff tending they’ve gotten, from Nabokov onwards. Their goalies just never got hot enough to get them into the final. And though Niemi ironically played very well against the Sharks the year the Hawks first won the Cup, that was an absolutely stacked team, top to bottom. Niemi is an average NHL goalie and he will not help the Oilers.

    Get Bishop or Vasilevski if at all possible. I like Lehtonen but he gets hurt.

  18. Dicky94 says:

    I still think Ferrence will be dealt at the deadline. Teams making a push for the playoffs would have interest in him. Only thing is it will be some teams reject coming back unless they eat some salary. I think he will be gone. Give Nuge the C.

  19. oliveoilers says:

    zatch:
    Report: She said yes! The view of downtown was incredible. She laughed and called me a goof as she did it, but she was so giddy she couldn’t sleep after

    We left with 3 minutes left, and so missed the fireworks, but here are my impressions by eye:

    That 4th line is worth a damn minus Gazdic. He played much better than I expected. It’s still not good enough. He squandered chances.
    Lander and Klef looked like wiley vets out there. Loved it.
    Ebs and Nuge are the men of this team and it isn’t close.
    Schultz was awful. At one point Desharnais was coming down the wing on a 2 on 2 and Schultz turned himself inside out somehow for no reason and almost fell over.
    At one point, Purcell blew by a habs D and I was shicked. Then I saw it was Markov.
    If you play this game 10 more times, thr average score is 5-2 Oilers. They dominated for long stretches and wiffed a lot of chances.
    Habs have massive issues. The team is so talented they overcome bad coachIng. Therrien won’t get fired even when he should and I strongly feel it will cost Montreal a cup this decade.

    Congratulations, welcome to the club!

  20. dustrock says:

    LMHF#1:
    So, circling back on something from earlier: What do we need to come up with to identify D like Klefbom who will succeed despite the lack of scoring evidence, and separate them from that large group where “no points, no chance” rings true?

    Here’s some scouting reports on Klefbom from 2011:

    Oscar Klefbom might be the surprise pick of the 2011 NHL Entry Draft.

    Currently ranked 6th by Central Scouting and with an HW Ranking of 18.4 (see the explanation above on what an HW Ranking is), Klefbom initially doesn’t jump off as a potential top 15 pick. But when you look at the tools he has and what he could potentially give a team in terms of impact, you start to understand why he might find himself picked earlier than expect.

    A very good skater with great size (6-3″ 200lbs) and with the fire in his game to play physical, Klefbom game should translate well from Europe to North America. In addition to his size and physical play, he has the ability to rush the puck up the ice and also has a hard shot.

    While he does have to continue refining his game and to learn how to simplify his game, he has size, mobility and offensive potential to make any of the top 15 teams taking a long look at Klefbom.

    ———

    a very mobile player … has the strength to fight through checks with his combination of speed and power … a capable puck mover … has a decent shot that he uses frequently … competes hard and can make life difficult for opposing forwards with his tenacity and willingness to engage physically … a natural leader … lacks a bit of the high-end creativity you might want from your powerplay quarterback

    ———–

    Aggressive, dynamic puck rusher loves to take the puck up ice … very good skater … has a long stride and is strong on his skates … heavy booming slap shot with good release … possesses a hard wrister that he uses effectively … loves to shoot the puck from just about anywhere on the ice … good bodychecker … passionate, exuberant player … a captain and winner … attacking style lands him in trouble when he pinches at wrong times … undisciplined … will sometimes run around and try to do too much

    I mean, that’s dead-on, isn’t it?

  21. TeeVee says:

    When Ryan Hamilton first made his NHL debut he looked too slow to play in this league. He now looks looks like he’s a bit leaner and to my eye his feet are moving at NHL speed.

    He definitely has a nose for the net.

  22. Showerhead says:

    zatch:
    Report: She said yes! The view of downtown was incredible. She laughed and called me a goof as she did it, but she was so giddy she couldn’t sleep after

    Congratulations! All the best to you both!

  23. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Dicky94:
    I still think Ferrence will be dealt at the deadline. Teams making a push for the playoffs would have interest in him. Only thing is it will be some teams reject coming back unless they eat some salary.I think he will be gone. Give Nuge the C.

    See the tail end of the game day thread from last night. I’ve been advocating for trading him with salary retained for weeks now, but there are hurdles.

    jbfuzz,

    You can look there as well.

    Wish it would happen, unlikely to happen.

  24. Halfwise says:

    zatch,

    Best wishes Zatch. You had us all in suspense and counting on you to let us know the good news.

    Someone posted in the game thread that the TV cameras found a couple where the guy had an Oiler jersey and the blonde lady wore a Habs jersey. Could that have been you?

  25. book¡je says:

    thejonrmcleod:
    “Yesterday at practice, Viktor Fasth got emotional and coach Eakins went over to talk to him.” Is this a typo or a joke?

    Pretty sure it’s a typo, LT is pretty old.

  26. Klima's_Bucket says:

    dustrock: PETRY – Don’t forget he rejected a multi-year deal at the beginning of the season.

    After signing his one year deal in July, Petry was not eligible to extend that deal until January 1st.
    So unless you’re referring to January 1st as the beginning of the season or you’re referring to Petry turning down a multi-year deal in July…something doesn’t add up.

  27. Pouzar says:

    zatch:
    Report: She said yes! The view of downtown was incredible. She laughed and called me a goof as she did it, but she was so giddy she couldn’t sleep after

    We left with 3 minutes left, and so missed the fireworks, but here are my impressions by eye:

    That 4th line is worth a damn minus Gazdic. He played much better than I expected. It’s still not good enough. He squandered chances.
    Lander and Klef looked like wiley vets out there. Loved it.
    Ebs and Nuge are the men of this team and it isn’t close.
    Schultz was awful. At one point Desharnais was coming down the wing on a 2 on 2 and Schultz turned himself inside out somehow for no reason and almost fell over.
    At one point, Purcell blew by a habs D and I was shicked. Then I saw it was Markov.
    If you play this game 10 more times, thr average score is 5-2 Oilers. They dominated for long stretches and wiffed a lot of chances.
    Habs have massive issues. The team is so talented they overcome bad coachIng. Therrien won’t get fired even when he should and I strongly feel it will cost Montreal a cup this decade.

    Congrats!

  28. G Money says:

    oliveoilers,

    Well said, my friend, well said.

    And THAT is why, after ten years of shit sandwiches, the Oilers still matter to us.

  29. theres oil in virginia says:

    oliveoilers: I actually got to watch the game last night. I live 40mins north of Peace River. We cancelled TV, as we don’t usually have time to watch and I made the monumental error of subscribing to GameCenter, so I usually listen to the games if GC is being weird, which is often.

    Last night, I finished off some wiring to my friends water system so he can move into his new palace, and after we went for a beer at the local. Well, the place was crowded, and in the last two years, I have caught the odd game there on wing night. Always a muted affair. But I have to tell you, last night was different.

    It was business as usual, with people kind of paying half attention to the game and making the usual jokes about the Oilers, in the usual good natured way of fans who know their team sucks, but it’s still their team. The 3rd period began, and more and more people started paying attention, like the first drops of a rain storm.

    There was an audible murmur when Klef stacked the pads (true un-embellished story from an NBC anchor). The crowd thought it was a valiant effort, but ultimately futile.

    There was a slight cheer when Nuge sent us to OT, but still mutterings of ‘watch them eff this up’.

    Then Gilbert ran the goalie, with no call! (Zebra’s missed THAT one!)

    The place , the whole place, cheered. Well, except the Habs fans.

    For the first time, since the magical cup run, in all the times I’ve been in a non-descript bar and watch a passionless, putrid, steaming shit sandwich served to me, of which I’m expected to take a bite, choke it down and call it good, have I seen the Oilers actually inspire a group of people to cheer for them and their ice hockeys.

    Tier Two for ever!

    You’re on fire lately. You’ve caught the Tier 2 pulse!

  30. Klima's_Bucket says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: See the tail end of the game day thread from last night. I’ve been advocating for trading him with salary retained for weeks now, but there are hurdles.

    Nelson has taken the first step by limiting Captain Planet’s minutes.
    Nelson’s next course of action would be to scratch him.
    The next step is having MacT move the November project out the door at the deadline in March.

  31. theres oil in virginia says:

    dustrock: Aggressive, dynamic puck rusher loves to take the puck up ice … very good skater … has a long stride and is strong on his skates … heavy booming slap shot with good release … possesses a hard wrister that he uses effectively … loves to shoot the puck from just about anywhere on the ice … good bodychecker … passionate, exuberant player … a captain and winner … attacking style lands him in trouble when he pinches at wrong times … undisciplined … will sometimes run around and try to do too much

    I mean, that’s dead-on, isn’t it?

    Nope. They left out the part about his goaltending skills.

  32. Chris says:

    The thing I’ve noticed over the past couple games is just how often the Oilers have been winning puck battles. Considering how rarely that happened under the Eakins regime on lines not featuring Boyd Gordon it really jumped out at me. The Oilers were forechecking and backchecking agressively and that really appeared to be a huge change. Now mind you it may well be that both the Islanders and the Canadians are soft, as soft as pudding because I don’t watch alot of eastern conference hockey. However, it does seem a dramatic stylistic change. Perhaps the long hoped for “harder to play against” factor.

  33. G Money says:

    zatch,

    Congrats!

  34. Pretendergast says:

    zatch,

    Congratulations! An engagement and a win, you sir were the real winner last night.

  35. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Klima’s_Bucket: Nelson has taken the first step by limiting Captain Planet’s minutes.
    Nelson’s next course of action would be to scratch him.
    The next step is having MacT move the November project out the door at the deadline in March.

    Which is exactly what I wrote in the last thread.

  36. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Chris:
    The thing I’ve noticed over the past couple games is just how often the Oilers have been winning puck battles. Considering how rarely that happened under the Eakins regime on lines not featuring Boyd Gordon it really jumped out at me. The Oilers were forechecking and backchecking agressively and that really appeared to be a huge change. Now mind you it may well be that both the Islanders and the Canadians are soft, as soft as pudding because I don’t watch alot of eastern conference hockey. However, it does seem a dramatic stylistic change. Perhaps the long hoped for “harder to play against” factor.

    Have a listen to the post-game with Nuge from last night. They ask him about the differences with Nelson and he candidly admits they are playing harder. Must kill Eakins to hear that.

  37. zatch says:

    Thanks all! It’s pretty damn special. There’s a chance it was us ( I have a lousy red beard) but there were no shortage of Oilers fans there. With the once a year visits, you make sure you get your tix. We have 3 rows off thr glass seats in Ottawa for Sat. Doubt we’re the only ones seeing both games.

    LOTS of women. And only one pink jersey. I think the gal just liked pink. Habs seem to be good about this. They sell the legacy of greatness going back to 1909. It isn’t (primarily) about the aggressive “man” aspects. It works well. The pretty girls on the jumbotron got thr loudest cheers, but one step at a time haha.

  38. dustrock says:

    congrats, Zatch.

    Klima’s Bucket – yes, I meant July for Petry, meaning he took the 1 year deal rather than a multi-year deal. Could be a variety of reasons, could be he looked at how they were treating Jultz and felt insulted, who knows?

    Now to me the question is whether the last stretch of games post-Eakins has changed Petry’s mind.

    The fear for me will continue to be that even if Petry wants to re-sign, Mac T will believe trading him for a 1st would be a better move.

  39. dustrock says:

    Sorry, last post for me for a while.

    We’ve talked many times about, absent maybe Hall, Pouliot, Schultz and Klefbom, the Oilers aren’t a fast team.

    But Nelson has asked them to play with urgency and you could really see that the last few games, especially against a Montreal team they just dominated for the 3rd period.

    They looked like a faster team because, rather than trying to slow the game down and keep possession, they were driving play.

    And look – their Corgis were behaving very nicely!

  40. Klima's_Bucket says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: Which is exactly what I wrote in the last thread.

    My bad. Should have read the last thread!

  41. Wessiiide says:

    Good morning all. First post here, long time reader. I just want to say that I’m consistently surprised by the sense of community on this site, this is what comment sections are supposed to be.

    Also, congratulations Zatch!

  42. Unicorns says:

    slopitch:
    Also why they hell would Lander have gotten no looks while Arco and Drai were struggling earlier. Did he really just come out of no where?

    The Oilers have always seemed to struggle with letting players be who they are and seeing the value in that. You combine that with an apparent inability to spot NHL skill sets and you have problems. As in Arco was better in the AHL but Lander has better tools for the NHL.

    I wonder what things MacLowesongreen looks for in players, I’d really like to know, I’ll bet it’s semi mystical and weird. They seem stumped by things the readers here mainly seem to get. Like Lander is easily a good 3C and probably was last year.

    Nelson is just letting them play without blame and the lads seem to love it. I think he has a better eye as well, puts guys in the right spots which can change daily, they are humans after all.

  43. G Money says:

    Before we get too heady about the team – let’s remember these were three really good games against the East, but the Oilers played those pretty well under Eakins too.

    The positives are real, I think, especially the emergence of the young Euros. They fill in the Grand Canyon sized gap on defense, and up front between the Young Kings and the Veteran Warriors.

    Visually, I sure like the way this team looks under Nelson, but wins have a funny way of biasing our visual impressions (just look at the legion of Flames fans convinced their team is as good as its record).

    I’ll be a lot more convinced a. the team plays better with Pouliot and Hall back (in the long run, this team goes nowhere if Hall isn’t driving the play), and b. they do it against their traditional Western nemeses.

    You know what I want as payback for this shit season? A top 5 pick and a .500+ record in April (when the Oilers play Ducks, Kings x 2, Sharks, Flames, and Canucks, and most especially beatdowns of the Flames and Nuckleheads).

  44. Ca$h-Money! says:

    Unicorns,

    No.

    Lander was not a good 3c last year.

    He’s good this year because he wasn’t drowning as a 3c in the NHL last year.

  45. Wessiiide says:

    Although I would love to see McEichel in Oilers silks, and every win takes us further away from that result, dammit we weren’t supposed to be this bad anyways. Just win baby! Strome or Provorov (sp?) would be a helluva consolation prize.

  46. jake70 says:

    Hall out
    Perron gone
    Eakins gone
    Nelson in
    Lander in
    Roy added
    Klinkhammer added
    Fasth playing more than Scrivens
    -others I am missing

    Problem is which of the above, alone, or in any combination is responsible for the better play and results lately?

  47. Lowetide says:

    zatch:
    Report: She said yes! The view of downtown was incredible. She laughed and called me a goof as she did it, but she was so giddy she couldn’t sleep after

    We left with 3 minutes left, and so missed the fireworks, but here are my impressions by eye:

    That 4th line is worth a damn minus Gazdic. He played much better than I expected. It’s still not good enough. He squandered chances.
    Lander and Klef looked like wiley vets out there. Loved it.
    Ebs and Nuge are the men of this team and it isn’t close.
    Schultz was awful. At one point Desharnais was coming down the wing on a 2 on 2 and Schultz turned himself inside out somehow for no reason and almost fell over.
    At one point, Purcell blew by a habs D and I was shicked. Then I saw it was Markov.
    If you play this game 10 more times, thr average score is 5-2 Oilers. They dominated for long stretches and wiffed a lot of chances.
    Habs have massive issues. The team is so talented they overcome bad coachIng. Therrien won’t get fired even when he should and I strongly feel it will cost Montreal a cup this decade.

    Congrats! Mrs. Lowetide asked this morning if you’d posted so if she’s reading this, get back to work!

  48. dustrock says:

    G Money: Before we get too heady about the team – let’s remember these were three really good games against the East, but the Oilers played those pretty well under Eakins too.The positives are real, I think, especially the emergence of the young Euros. They fill in the Grand Canyon sized gap on defense, and up front between the Young Kings and the Veteran Warriors.Visually, I sure like the way this team looks under Nelson, but wins have a funny way of biasing our visual impressions (just look at the legion of Flames fans convinced their team is as good as its record).I’ll be a lot more convinced a. the team plays better with Pouliot and Hall back (in the long run, this team goes nowhere if Hall isn’t driving the play), and b. they do it against their traditional Western nemeses. You know what I want as payback for this shit season? A top 5 pick and a .500+ record in April (when the Oilers play Ducks, Kings x 2, Sharks, Flames, and Canucks, and most especially beatdowns of the Flames and Nuckleheads).

    Man a top 5 pick and a .500 record in April would be almost as dreamy as Klefbom.

  49. Woogie63 says:

    MacT is a worry for me, a rookie GM rushed into the league before he is ready …. Where have I heard this story.

    If you were a great free agent hockey player or the next great hockey manager or coach, would you trust your career in MacT hands?

    The GM and his ability to get players and build long term process so the team wins is maybe the most critical role in the organization, and we have a rookie who is making lots of mistakes.

  50. Jon K says:

    I think we have reached the point where, yes, this team looks visually better under Nelson. Small sample size and all, it is undeniable that the team is more cohesive. Not just in terms of working together, but in terms of playing identifiable coaching strategies.

    The team is much, much better on breakouts. They are more consistently moving up ice as a five man unit, rather than what we saw for the first half of the season where the forwards were looking to make a break the moment the Oilers appeared to be regaining possession. They’re taking more shots, more quickly. Simply put, they’re flying out there. This is the “best” Schultz has looked since he entered the NHL (imho).

    Todd Nelson appears to have equal doses “art” and “science” down pat for his coaching.

    However, we cannot overlook the significance of replacing Draisaitl with Roy. Draisaitl was an absolute anchor out there. Overmatched, overwhelmed, not ready. None of this is his fault. As LT notes in the post, another rookie upstairs was responsible for his half year spent in developmental purgatory. We should all hope that Draisaitl’s long term potential wasn’t affected by it. Lander was arguably set back a year of development when he was thrown in way too early.

  51. rich says:

    zatch,

    Congrats Zatch!

  52. sumaclab says:

    The tale of the tape sure favors Nelson right now. If he were anyone else named Mike Babcock this talk of who will coach next year would be moot. My smarties have Lander and Klefbom arrived. Is Magnus Pajarrvi lurking somewhere?

    I do think we’ll see a hockey trade yet. The TML are ready to dump salary and tank for the foreseeable future. My goodness would David Clarkson at 60% of his salary be nice. Or barring that would Dion like to come home and play in Rogers Place?

    The less MacT says the more I believe he signs Petry before trade deadline day.

  53. Hammers says:

    LT McT now has to resign Lander & Klinkhammer hopefully before season end . I think you feel Marincin will be traded along with Petry and that will be a huge mistake . He needs to keep both but at least one of them . If he drops back to Nikitin ,Ference & Aulie we are in trouble again . As we sit for next year Schultz & Klefbom ; Fayne & Nurse ; Nikitin & Ference (crazy when it could be Petry & Marincin) If he can get a shut down like Phaneuf to play with Fayne and let Nurse get 40 games in the AHL I would do it especially if we kept Petry &MM . Phone Toronto offer Nikitin (cap),Aulie , Pits 1st , and our 1st in 2016 for Phaneuf .Just a suggestion with Toronto in rebuild .

  54. Unicorns says:

    zatch,

    Congrats!

  55. supernova says:

    oliveoilers:
    ” Yesterday at practice, Viktor Fasth got emotional and coach Eakins went over to talk to him.”

    Sorry LT, I only highlighted this because Bob Stauffer keeps calling Todd ‘Eakins’.

    I actually got to watch the game last night.I live 40mins north of Peace River.We cancelled TV, as we don’t usually have time to watch and I made the monumental error of subscribing to GameCenter, so I usually listen to the games if GC is being weird, which is often.

    Last night, I finished off some wiring to my friends water system so he can move into his new palace, and after we went for a beer at the local.Well, the place was crowded, and in the last two years, I have caught the odd game there on wing night.Always a muted affair.But I have to tell you, last night was different.

    It was business as usual, with people kind of paying half attention to the game and making the usual jokes about the Oilers, in the usual good natured way of fans who know their team sucks, but it’s still their team.The 3rd period began, and more and more people started paying attention, like the first drops of a rain storm.

    There was an audible murmur when Klef stacked the pads (true un-embellished story from an NBC anchor).The crowd thought it was a valiant effort, but ultimately futile.

    There was a slight cheer when Nuge sent us to OT, but still mutterings of ‘watch them eff this up’.

    Then Gilbert ran the goalie, with no call!(Zebra’s missed THAT one!)

    The place , the whole place, cheered.Well, except the Habs fans.

    For the first time, since the magical cup run, in all the times I’ve been in a non-descript bar and watch a passionless, putrid, steaming shit sandwich served to me, of which I’m expected to take a bite, choke it down and call it good, have I seen the Oilers actually inspire a group of people to cheer for them and their ice hockeys.

    Tier Two for ever!

    oliveoilers,

    Good story, your post is similar to many of us.

    By the way, are you using a VPN or DNS for GameCenter?

    I have very little issues with Game Center and I also don’t have TV or cable / satellite.

    Watched the end of third and OT from my phone.

  56. Pouzar says:

    Wessiiide,

    Strome/J. Roy

  57. Unicorns says:

    Ca$h-Money!:
    Unicorns,

    No.

    Lander was not a good 3c last year.

    He’s good this year because he wasn’t drowning as a 3c in the NHL last year.

    I see the issue as being what the Oilers do to young players as the main problem. Lander was ready to go before but they kept sabotaging his confidence, like Petry. If either player was handled as rookies and youth are by good teams, ie easier minutes and put in a position to succeed, they’d both be further down the path IMO. Not much is different in either player’s game, it’s confidence growing. This could have been done before.

  58. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Hammers:
    LT McT now has to resign Lander & Klinkhammer hopefully before season end . I think you feel Marincin will be traded along with Petry and that will be a huge mistake . He needs to keep both but at least one of them . If he drops back to Nikitin ,Ference & Aulie we are in trouble again . As we sit for next year Schultz & Klefbom ; Fayne & Nurse ; Nikitin & Ference (crazy when it could be Petry & Marincin) If he can get a shut down like Phaneuf to play with Fayne and let Nurse get 40 games in the AHL I would do it especially if we kept Petry&MM .Phone Toronto offer Nikitin(cap),Aulie , Pits 1st , and our 1st in 2016 for Phaneuf .Just a suggestion with Toronto in rebuild .

    Phaneuf is not a shut down. He is many things, including an excellent, possibly elite, offensive defenseman. Give him sheltered, o-zone focused minutes and he is excellent. He suffered under Carlyle from being deployed as a shut-down guy.

    If the Oilers are sending that much of a haul to the Leafs for him as you propose, the Leafs better be retaining half of his salary.

  59. oliveoilers says:

    supernova: oliveoilers,

    Good story, your post is similar to many of us.

    By the way, are you using a VPN or DNS for GameCenter?

    I have very little issues with Game Center and I also don’t have TV or cable / satellite.

    Watched the end of third and OT from my phone.

    To be honest, I don’t have a great affinity for computers. I just downloaded GC for my Roku, and created a MyRogers account. I don’t use the Roku for GC anymore as it is impossible, even though all other channels stream seamlessly. On my laptop, it is merely crappy. My connection speed is 72Mbps, so I think it’s fast enough. Probably something I’m doing.

  60. PhrankLee says:

    zatch,

    Hearty congratulations, Zatch.

  61. GCW_69 says:

    Todd Nelson after twenty games.

    Time on ice percentages by situation. This matters because corsi events tend to be different in different game situations. Eakins spent 48% of his time trailing. Nelson had only spent 32% trailing, a significant improvement but one that will hurt his aggregate corsi compared to Eakins.

    Situation. Eakins Nelson

    Down 2 or more: 24% 11%

    Down 1: 22% 21%

    Tied. 39% 40%

    Up 1: 12% 19%

    Up 2 or more: 3% 9%

    Interesting that the percentage of time tied is virtually the same.

    From a corsi perspective, we see:

    Situation. Eakins Nelson

    Down 2 or more: 54.7% 56.9%

    Down 1: 53.6% 52.4%

    Tied 51.2% 45%

    Up 1: 39.9% 46%

    Up 2 or more: 36.3 % 42.8%.

    We see little change when trailing. The team is middle of the pack under both coaches. Tied, we see the team had a better CF% under Eakins. However we see significant improvement playing with the lead under Nelson.

    If anyone had any thoughts on why the team bleeds more shots when tied under Nelson, but is generating more leads regardless and the plays much better with the lead, I would love to hear them.

    If Nelson figures out how to drive the play more when tied, and he appears smart enough to figure it out, he might be able to generate an over .500 record.

    We should also be suspicious of anyone who points to the overall reduction in corsi as the team regressing on shot metrics. In four of five game situations the team is pretty much the same or better.

  62. leadfarmer says:

    Dubnyk now tied for 4th in the league in save percentage. If only we could have landed a goalie of his caliber to help the rebuild.

  63. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    GCW_69:
    Todd Nelson after twenty games.

    Time on ice percentages by situation. This matters because corsi events tend to be different in different game situations.Eakins spent 48% of his time trailing.Nelson had only spent 32% trailing, a significant improvement but one that will hurt his aggregate corsi compared to Eakins.

    Situation.EakinsNelson

    Down 2 or more:24%11%

    Down 1:22%21%

    Tied.39%40%

    Up 1:12%19%

    Up 2 or more:3%9%

    Interesting that the percentage of time tied is virtually the same.

    From a corsi perspective, we see:

    Situation.EakinsNelson

    Down 2 or more:54.7% 56.9%

    Down 1:53.6%52.4%

    Tied 51.2%45%

    Up 1:39.9%46%

    Up 2 or more:36.3%42.8%.

    We see little change when trailing. The team is middle of the pack under both coaches.Tied, we see the team had a better CF% under Eakins.However we see significant improvement playing with the lead under Nelson.

    If anyone had any thoughts on why the team bleeds more shots when tied under Nelson, but is generating more leads regardless and the plays much better with the lead, I would love to hear them.

    If Nelson figures out how to drive the play more when tied, and he appears smart enough to figure it out,he might be able to generate an over .500 record.

    We should also be suspicious of anyone who points to the overall reduction in corsi as the team regressing on shot metrics.In four of five game situations the team is pretty much the same or better.

    Thanks for this. I had a visual theory in my mind about how the team plays when tied. I was thinking it to myself yesterday during the game.

    In yesterday’s game, there was a lull when they got to 2-2. When they were down 2-0 they put their heads down and started working really hard, got the game tied, and then they had 3 or 4 minutes of loose hockey and let their guard down. I found a “familiar” feeling watching it and thought to myself, “this team seems to have urgency when down, but when they tie it, they take their foot off the gas.” However, in last night’s game, unlike other games, the lull didn’t last very long. It’s like they’re starting to learn they need to keep going (or so I hope).

    Now, this is all visual, mind you, but a way to test this hypothesis would be to compare CF% when tied when the Oilers had the lead and lost it vs. when the Oilers were down and they tied it?

    Edit- and to add, we can also watch and see if the CF% tied improves. This would test my hypothesis that they are learning under Nelson to NOT let their guard down when tied and keep pressing. If so, we can talk about progress in this area as well.

  64. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    P.S. the rig count # just hit the tape
    Count down to 1358 (-98) from 1456. Rig number continues to come down, all very much expected.

  65. PerryK says:

    Pouzar:
    LOL @ Klef

    “Yeeeeesssss”

    http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=4&id=751404&lang=en

    What the F…., that video isn’t working. Care to tell us what that was all about?

  66. Pouzar says:

    Auston Matthews ’16:
    Elliot being his usual, informed and level-headed self:

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-toronto-maple-leafs-phil-vessel-nhl-trade-deadline-2015/

    #23 of the 30 thoughts is screaming at Yak. I think he can be a lot better. #duh I know.

  67. Pouzar says:

    PerryK: What the F…., that video isn’t working.Care to tell us what that was all about?

    Sorry, it’s on the oilers.nhl.com site…..just shows the guys walking into the dressing room.
    It’s funny. You can here Klef loud and clear “Yeeeeeeeees……………………..Yesssssssssss!!!!”

  68. SwedishPoster says:

    Rumoured Oiler target showed off his big shot in a scary way the other night when the puck went off a stick and hit former Islander prospect David Ullström in the head link-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY-PUMDpNfY#t=10

    Ullström is fine according to his own twitter, jokingly said he was lucky Hersley doesn’t shoot very hard.

    Swedens NT played a double header turned one game and one period since the first game was stopped at the beginning of the second period due to the ice cracking up. Big fiasco.
    Anyway, I was focusing on Hersley to see if the percieved improvement in skating was real or if it just quicker decisions. Hersley had 4 solid period, not as offensively dominant as he’s been the last few games with the NT but solid, didn’t get as many chances to show off his howitzer, many times due to his D partner Fransson, who is a skilled guy but sometimes only sees the ice in front of him, not noticing that Hersley had moved in to a good spot.
    The few shots he got away were all high quality, hard and always on net, in an interview between periods he mentioned that about 80-90% of his shots hits the net and I don’t doubt that for a second, he shoots hard, he gets it off fast and past the blockers and he rarely misses the net, the NHL will ofc add an extra level of diffculty but that shoot is elite, no doubt.
    No goals in these games though, a bit more traffic would have helped.
    Defensively he was solid, good positioning, makes sure he covers the middle of the ice first and foremost, I like that every time he slides out of position defensively he reverts back to the middle of the middle of the ice and starts from there, good quality in a d-man. He’s a big guy and fairly strong but not very physical, could probably add some extra strength to become a more efficient crease clearer, he has the size for it.
    Quick simple passes in his own zone, nothing fancy but efficient.

    And finally the skating. It does really look like he’s gotten faster, his pivots, his edge work and his overall speed looks improved. In no way an elite or even plus skater but about average. The pace of these games weren’t fantastic, didn’t really heat up until late in the 2nd game, but from these 4 periods it looked like his footspeed should be able to cut it in the NHL, it was two teams filled with guys who were AHL/NHL tweeners so the quality is pretty good, pretty much as close to NHL quality you get outside the actual NHL(Harti and Joensuu for team Finland, both looked ok, none of them are really stars at this level either, Harti is still making the same move to take the puck to the net withou really producing much of value.)

    Would be an ok bet to take on his shot alone, just don’t write him into the top 6 and as with all guys coming over from europe, make sure he gives it two seasons before giving up, it’s always tough adjusting in the first year.

    A possible bonus from signing Hersley could be that it might make it easier to sign Carl Söderberg in the off season, they played together in Malmö as youngsters, no clue if they are friends, for all I know they could hate each other, but just something to keep in mind, there is a connection there and Söderberg is famous for his unwillingness to leave Malmö, he likes familiarity. If they are buddies Hersley could be his familiarity with the Oil.

  69. cabbiesmacker says:

    I know one thing for sure. If Todd Nelson gets signed we won’t have to worry about Mike Modano being hired as an assistant. Woot.

    Todd was the right guy for the job the day Eakins was hired. MacTavish f’d up and didn’t even consider him. Brilliant hockey mind.

  70. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Pouzar: #23 of the 30 thoughts is screaming at Yak. I think he can be a lot better. #duh I know.

    So true. And I do remember how Kane used to do that as well.

    Perron said it best: “Yak is easy to play with when he is moving his feet.”

    Right now Yak likes to pull up just inside the blue-line with the old button hook and look to make a pass.

    Even when he does keep going, like yesterday’s set-up to Hamilton that hit the post, as good a pass as that was, he was gliding in from the top of of the circle in and never once looked at the net, he was looking pass all the way. Not criticizing the play,mind you, just an observation that even then, it was obvious he had one thing on his mind.

    To borrow a basketball term, his next area to work on is getting into the triple threat position, able to pass, unleash the wicked shot, or put his head down and drive to the net. We could see his offense take off if he figures this out (along with taking 10% power off his one-timer in order to control its accuracy a little better).

  71. PerryK says:

    “The Oilers (imo) could finish as high as No. 26 overall.”

    All things considered, as pleasant as it is to watch a game like yesterday, we can’t really forget that we still would like the #1 or #2 overall!

    Maybe we need to sign Petry and then shut him down for injuries for a while, along with RNH. Trade Gordon, Roy, and Hendricks. You can sign them after the season if you need to. I think that Lander is ready to replace Gordon; let him have a shot for the rest of the season. Bring up Yakimov, Curtis Hamilton, and Jason Williams. Bring back Nikitin and shut down Klefbom for a while. That should accomplish the last place before long!

    Reset the season after getting Eichel and let 2015/16 be “The Year”.

    Come on guys where is the long perfected art of “The Tank”?

  72. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    SwedishPoster,

    Thanks for that. I’m totally in favor of trying to land Soderberg (and keep Roy), then keep the rest of the forwards largely as is.

  73. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Pouzar: #23 of the 30 thoughts is screaming at Yak. I think he can be a lot better. #duh I know.

    Yes. Does Yak seem to not skate as well when he has the puck? Seems he’s always one step short of beating the defender, and failing a move through the dmen, always pulls up and waits. He had plenty of speed through the NZ in OT last night though.

    I loved that little dish Yak made in the 3rd – to Hamilton, I think (who rang it off the far post)? From one replay angle, it showed the puck jump up just as he passed it though, which didn’t help the chances of finishing it.

  74. GCW_69 says:

    The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL": Thanks for this. I had a visual theory in my mind about how the team plays when tied. I was thinking it to myself yesterday during the game.

    In yesterday’s game, there was a lull when they got to 2-2. When they were down 2-0 they put their heads down and started working really hard, got the game tied, and then they had 3 or 4 minutes of loose hockey and let their guard down. I found a “familiar” feeling watching it and thought to myself, “this team seems to have urgency when down, but when they tie it, they take their foot off the gas.”However, in last night’s game, unlike other games, the lull didn’t last very long. It’s like they’re starting to learn they need to keep going (or so I hope).

    Now, this is all visual, mind you, but a way to test this hypothesis would be to compare CF% when tied when the Oilers had the lead and lost it vs. when the Oilers were down and they tied it?

    You’re welcome.

    I don’t know if that data exists, but I was wondering the same thing.

  75. SkatinginSand says:

    oliveoilers,

    Stacked the pads? Come on, that was a classic Bill Ranford skate save.
    Lander not only couldn’t make the top four centres at the start of the year, he was also behind Will (I can’t skate) Acton. Did he need the extra time in OKC or did he need someone to show confidence in him?
    Confidence to make plays. That is the biggest difference with Lander, Klef, Petry, Yak and even Nuge.
    The best thing that could happen to the Oilers next year is if Double Agent Nikitin is on IR for the year and Ference is the Seventh D. Of course, that will be down the tubes when MacT trades Petry for soggy, rotten magic beans. My vote is one weeks experience 100 times.

  76. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Ducey:
    It may be time to change Lander’s name to ‘Landed’.

    I once headlined him as “Lander, C” which works anytime since he’s a centre but especially well when he is the captain, as he was for Sweden on that day.

    Rereading that 4 year old post & seeing my ultimate comp — Marty Sakic — makes me smile. As one who has been a booster of this prospect since he was drafted, I am over the moon about his recent performance. A 5 and a half year wait, but Lander seems to be emerging as not just an NHLer but a good one. Took him 2 or 3 years to crack the SEL and nearly 2 to figure out the AHL, but in both cases once he “got it” he kept right on getting it. Swiss Army knife that can score at least some is a real nice piece to add. He has always impressed as a high character player & person & ive seen zero in recent times to change my opinion on that score.

  77. Showerhead says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”

    To borrow a basketball term, his next area to work on is getting into the triple threat position, able to pass, unleash the wicked shot, or put his head down and drive to the net. We could see his offense take off if he figures this out (along with taking 10% power off his one-timer in order to control its accuracy a little better).

    Yes, completely agree. Yak is easy to defend because he pretty much only has one look. If he could add those options you describe (and then figure out when to use them), he would be exponentially more effective.

    The maddening part is that he really does have the physical skills to be able to do all 3.

  78. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    As for the question of finishing 26th overall, here are the calendar year 2015 records:
    Philly: 9-6-2
    Ottawa: 6-8-3
    Jersey: 8-5-2
    Toronto: 2-15-1
    Columbus: 7-10
    Carolina: 9-5-2
    Buffalo: 2-15
    Colorado: 8-7-3
    Arizona: 6-9-3
    Edmonton: 8-9-1

    If the paces above continue, we’d be looking at:
    Philly: 88 pts
    Jersey: 84.5 pts
    Colorado: 83.5pts
    Carolina: 81 pts
    Ottawa: 77.5 pts
    Columbus: 74 pts
    —————————————Realistic line
    Arizona: 69.5 pts
    Edmonton: 65.5 pts
    Toronto: 57 pts
    Buffalo: 41 pts

    LT, I think Edmonton can finish as high as 27th ( pass Arizona). I think 26th is extremely unlikely, especially if you look at the teams above that cut-off line.

  79. Rondo says:

    Corey Pronman @coreypronman · 4h 4 hours ago
    New post for Insiders: On Lawson Crouse, why despite his stats, he remains a top-end prospect http://es.pn/1ConW00

  80. Dicky94 says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    He is definately playing like a leader right now.

  81. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Swedishposter, please correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Lander mean : countries/places in Swedish?

    They say no man is an island, well this man is a whole country!

  82. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Crude sold off $1 after the rig cut number was released (from $53 to $52). Speculators punting around. This is why currently you either have to be nimble and buy only on sell-offs and not chase momentum, or if you have the long-term in mind, just sit on your hands and wait, keep your powder dry until the picture becomes clearer.

  83. Ice Sage says:

    Showerhead: Yes, completely agree. Yak is easy to defend because he pretty much only has one look. If he could add those options you describe (and then figure out when to use them), he would be exponentially more effective. The maddening part is that he really does have the physical skills to be able to do all 3.

    Great observations. Since Yak has played RW as a leftie, for most of his career, there are some challenges to rounding out his offensive repertoire – it’s harder to blow by wide while protecting the puck on your backhand (which allows the D to cheat to centre lane) and the default zone-gaining move is to buttonhook / delay. For players like this (albeit Bantams) I like them to work on some neutral zone weaving, cross-n-drop, backhand off pads, shot-fakes and pull-backs with quick release. Confidence and the trust of a good coach goes a long way to imporving players’ creativity. Yak had this in junior – he seems to be having fun again, here’s hoping.

  84. knighttown says:

    Does anyone know the rules on who the Oilers can demote to OKC once the regular season is done? It would be extremely valuable for Lander and company to go on a deep playoff run and even hoist the Calder Cup.

  85. Ice Sage says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: Bruce McCurdy, Swedishposter, please correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Lander mean : countries/places in Swedish? They say no man is an island, well this man is a whole country!

    Whole Country, you say?

    Land or Sea?

  86. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Ice Sage,

    Which is why Patrick Kane is a great guy to emulate, and why we were talking about this to begin with based on Friemdan’s #23 thought for this week.

    Kane is a left shot playing RW.

  87. Melman says:

    Stan Weir was so tired of watching the Oilers lose he decided to come back as Todd Nelson

  88. McSorley33 says:

    Eakins vs Nelson:

    Yesterday, local radio (Winnipeg ) interviewed Preds play by play man…..he was asked the difference between Barry Trotz and Peter Laviolette. His response – may – have some comparables to Eakins vs Nelson.

    Barry Trotz was a defence first coach. If a player made a turnover – example Colin Wilson – Colin would be benched.

    Laviolette takes a **much different approach** – turnovers – are a function of the creativity process. They are going to happen. Colin Wilson can now be creative and not fear punishment for mistakes.

    Colin Wilson has 17 goals and 19 assists for 36 points this year

    It was a very illuminating interview on the differences in coaching.

    I suspect Hitchcock, Trotz and Eakins despise turnovers more than taxes. ( Perron quip on Hitch – if you are on a 3 on 2 – he **still** wants you to dump it in )

    My guess is Russ99 would have loved this interview. And I suspect he may be on to something about Eakins limiting guys creative side.

    Again, I am speculating on the Oiler coach comparison – I don’t know.

  89. Ice Sage says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: Ice Sage, Which is why Patrick Kane is a great guy to emulate, and why we were talking about this to begin with based on Friemdan’s #23 thought for this week.Kane is a left shot playing RW.

    My naivete showing again – thought Kane was LW based on the lane he usually takes through neutral zone… he roams like few others in the league today. Having Toews helps too (obvs), but especially with breakouts, another off-wing challenge. Maybe the Oilers can get Kane’s old centre from Junior to help Yak along?

  90. McSorley33 says:

    G Money,

    Before we get too heady about the team – let’s remember these were three really good games against the East, but the Oilers played those pretty well under Eakins too
    ************************************************************************
    Thank you….

    Always had a punchers chance playing the East…

  91. rickithebear says:

    Dicky94:
    Give Nuge the C.

    i wil keep posting the list:
    Especially this last week.

    Lander:
    07-08 (16)
    U17 10p 7gm; U18 8P 14gm
    08-09 (17)
    Captain U18 WJC 9P 6Gm
    09-10 (18)
    Asst Captain Timra SEL 16P 49gm
    Asst captain U20 WJC 8P 6gm
    10-11 (19)
    Asst Captain Timra SEL 24P 49gm
    Captain U20 WJC 4P 6GM
    13-14 (22)
    Captain OKC 52p 46gm
    14-15
    Captain OKC 31P 29GM
    16-17
    ???????????????

    Last night: In interview!
    reporter “you almost won against NYI”
    Lander “but we didn’t” (no excuses)
    Lander “the win feels good”

    There is zero politics!
    Just an honest leader!

  92. ashley says:

    Klefbom hitting all the right notes on the ice. But check out this face:

    http://www.vf.se/sport/ishockey/klefbom-vann-kompiskampen

    If hockey doesn’t work out, then a hollywood or a modelling career might be an option for young Oscar.

  93. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Ice Sage: My naivete showing again – thought Kane was LW based on the lane he usually takes through neutral zone… he roams like few others in the league today.Having Toews helps too (obvs), but especially with breakouts, another off-wing challenge. Maybe the Oilers can get Kane’s old centre from Junior to help Yak along?

    Kane and Toews play on separate lines, actually. Yak so far seems to do much better with veteran guys (Roy, Horcoff) than he does with young, offensively inclined centres (Gagner, Nuge–Nuge being more 2-way than Gagner, obviously).

    Roaming on offense is fine, I think, so long as he is where he needs to be in the d-zone and on break-outs.

  94. sliderule says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”,

    Baker Hughes rig count shows a drop in oil rigs of 367 from last year at this time.

    If Pickens is right it will have to drop another 3or4 hundred to start to ease USA glut.

    It was down 84 rigs for week so that sound like 4or 5 weeks.

    A couple of weeks ago most of traders had never heard of baker Hughes rig count and now they are trying to anticipate it.
    Thus the drop after release.

  95. SwedishPoster says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”,

    Lander in itself doesn’t mean anything, land means both country and shore as in opposed to sea and well land as in a piece of land. Länder with the dots is countries, plural, or loins but since he spells without them I doubt it means anything in Swedish. Unusual name and my guess it comes from Finland or further east originally.

  96. rickithebear says:

    McSorley33: My guess is Russ99 would have loved this interview. And I suspect he may be on to something about Eakins limiting guys creative side.

    why do you think hemsky did wel with Horcoff. he could cover defensively for the wander and himself.

    Why do you think yak had a good 1st year with Horc at center.

  97. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    ashley:
    Klefbom hitting all the right notes on the ice.But check out this face:

    http://www.vf.se/sport/ishockey/klefbom-vann-kompiskampen

    If hockey doesn’t work out, then a hollywood or a modelling career might be an option for young Oscar.

    He’s dreamy, indeed. From the day he was drafted he looked like a boy band member, except he plays hockey, which makes him cool. My ex-gf, American/Japanese wanted to see waht all the fuss was about with hockey players supposedly being good-looking. I showed her the entire Oiler roster and the only guy she liked was McDreamy Klefbom.

    He keeps playing the way he’s playing he’s going to have a lot more fans.

  98. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    SwedishPoster:
    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”,

    Lander in itself doesn’t mean anything, land means both country and shore as in opposed to sea and well land as in a piece of land. Länder with the dots is countries, plural, or loins but since he spells without them I doubt it means anything in Swedish. Unusual name and my guess it comes from Finland or further east originally.

    Thanks! So it means nothing then.

  99. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    sliderule:
    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”,

    Baker Hughes rig count shows a drop in oil rigs of 367 from last year at this time.

    If Pickens is right it will have to drop another 3or4 hundred to start to ease USA glut.

    It was down 84 rigs for week so that sound like 4or 5 weeks.

    A couple of weeks ago most of traders had never heard of baker Hughes rig count and now they are trying to anticipate it.
    Thus the drop after release.

    I was counting total rigs including natural gas (98) vs. your 84 for oil. Otherwise I see no difference between what you and I wrote. The rig count right now doesn’t matter much, especially when oil production is at all time highs despite the lower rig count. It will matter eventually. It’s all about trader positioning, which is what I’ve been trying to explain.

    I’ll dig up my post from the game day thread from yesterday.

  100. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    sliderule,

    From yesterday’s game day thread..
    G Money:
    spoiler,
    I’m told (haven’t verified) that at $50, nearly half the world’s oil is uneconomic.And although in the short term the taps remain on, the degree to which companies have been reacting to these prices in slashing capital expenses (which will have a huge impact on future production) is breathtaking.
    Given that this massive dive was triggered by a 3 to 4% surplus in oil production, that means a future short fall is written in stone, regardless of what the bottom print (whether we’ve seen it yet or not) turns out to be.It at least partially explains why some otherwise sober commentators are now calling for a return to $150+ oil (while a much larger number remain bearish in the medium term).
    Going to be an interesting few months.
    I don’t usually use CNBC as a source for information, but I’m not in the office and can’t scrounge up any better reports at the moment; however, this overview would suggest your information about $50 is wrong. Off the top of my head, I believe the Saudis’ production costs are in the low teens. They can ride this out a while longer.
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/102326971#.
    Oil prices are rebounding now because, in my opinion, these factors in order of importance:
    1) Positioning: Too many people got short in too much size–it became a very crowded trade and the January month-end squeeze sent hedge funds scrambling to cover.
    2) Technically, oil was very, very oversold and a relief rally was in the cards off of $45. I think we talked about that in mid-January. It just took two weeks of sideways trading before the rally finally came. But the $85-$76 (pause) $76-$55 (pause), $55-$45 (pause) was a classic 3-wave decline. We’re now in relief rally mode, which should take us back up towards $60. That doesn’t mean yet that it’s all over and we’ve seen the lows. This is merely a function of traders trying to establish equilibrium and chasing momentum higher.
    3) There’s been a “factor” change in markets. I help run various models tracking as many of the attributes of stocks as we can track (earnings, book value, earnings growth, dividends, blah, blah the list is endless); these models split stocks into various “buckets” : momentum, value, growth, etc. Momentum has been king for the last 4 months, but this month, we’ve seen a clear shift into value. This is showing up in the data across thousands of stocks in global markets. Quantitative portfolio screens are picking up value stocks and they are outperforming to start February. If you could take a global snapshot of some of the cheapest, deep value stocks in the world, Canadian energy names come to the top of the list. However, here’s the problem, many of them haven’t yet slashed their earnings forecasts, cut their dividends, canceled buybacks, taken write-downs on their assets, etc., yet (some have). So these stocks aren’t really good value. They are value traps. The models think they are extremely cheap, but the models haven’t factored in the kitchen sinking effect that will come. However, in the meantime, quant models that are “value” driven are saying buy the energy sector relative to the market. So we’re seeing that type of model-driven buying. As the underlying stocks are showing resilience even when oil itself is having a rough day, people are beginning to think maybe the stocks are right and oil itself isn’t, This should shake out down the line, but it’s happening right now.
    4) Markets learn to get over bad news. Inventories still going up? Markets are starting to care less, just like markets eventually started to care less about the latest Greek headlines in late 2011/early 2012. They’d still dip on headlines, but began to do so less and less and started climbing the wall of worry. The market is starting to care less about bad news in oil. 6million barrel increase instead of 3? We get it! You just eliminated your dividend and cut forecasts to basically zero? (See COS in Canada), let’s cover our shorts and buy it, the bad news is all “out in the open” now.
    5) Global macro: The Russia/Ukraine potential ceasefire helps. But why, you ask? Usually wars are good for oil prices. Yes! They are. And they have been, but right now, oil is more of a playground for traders, speculators and punters to place bets in, more than a geopolitical hedge. So when good news comes out for riskier assets, oil rallies, too. Greece-that caused some worries, but again, better headlines this week.
    6) Rig counts are coming down in the US, by a lot. Note I put this last for now, but that’s because I think out of these six factors I’ve listed, in the current here and now, this has had the least impact relative to the others. Long-term this is going to matter, potentially matter a lot. But right now, the fluctuations in prices and volatility are, in my opinion, much more driven by short-term financial market forces, rather than long-term oil-patch related fundamentals.

  101. Klima's_Bucket says:

    SwedishPoster: Unusual name and my guess it comes from Finland or further east originally.

    Further East as in Russia.
    Russia as in Leningrad.
    Leningrad as in Lenin.
    Lander resembles Lenin.
    It all adds up and makes sense.

  102. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Klima’s_Bucket: Lander resembles Lenin.

    Well he’s leading a revolution in the Oilers!

  103. Dicky94 says:

    rickithebear,

    He could definately be the Captain next year if Nelson is still the coach ,which I believe he will be. Even if Ferrence remains on the team. Nelson will want his own Captain of the team.

  104. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    zatch: She said yes!

    Congratz! You can send her an Oiler valentine by email, in case she did’t get enough of them at the game last night!

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=104030&navid=DL%7CEDM%7Chome

  105. Showerhead says:

    Ice Sage: Great observations.Since Yak has played RW as a leftie, for most of his career, there are some challenges to rounding out his offensive repertoire – it’s harder to blow by wide while protecting the puck on your backhand (which allows the D to cheat to centre lane) and the default zone-gaining move is to buttonhook / delay.For players like this (albeit Bantams) I like them to work on some neutral zone weaving, cross-n-drop, backhand off pads, shot-fakes and pull-backs with quick release.Confidence and the trust of a good coach goes a long way to imporving players’ creativity.Yak had this in junior – he seems to be having fun again, here’s hoping.

    Great post. Variety is key. In that Friedman piece, a Vancouver d-man is quoted saying Kane was easy to defend when he only had one way to enter the zone. All of the options you list add variety, which if used intelligently makes a guy so much harder to defend against.

    I think a big part of my opinion that Yak should be kept is my belief that he has the ability to do the things you mention. Maybe the switch never goes on for him but I think he’s a great gamble to hold onto. Ideally he’d have been able to ride the Horcoff-type treatment for a few years but at least Roy seems to help.

  106. Showerhead says:

    Showerhead: Great post. Variety is key. In that Friedman piece, a Vancouver d-man is quoted saying Kane was easy to defend when he only had one way to enter the zone. All of the options you list add variety, which if used intelligently makes a guy so much harder to defend against.

    I think a big part of my opinion that Yak should be kept is my belief that he has the ability to do the things you mention. Maybe the switch never goes on for him but I think he’s a great gamble to hold onto. Ideally he’d have been able to ride the Horcoff-type treatment for a few years but at least Roy seems to help.

    Oh and that Nelson guy. Maybe.

  107. Dead Oiler walking says:

    Hey Zatch: One more congrats

    The couple on TV was in the pre-game show. The reason it was so memorable is that the shot was about 30 seconds. Couple sitting alone in almost empty section and the commentators talking about which one would be happy at the end of the game. Sounds like you pretty blond and guy with a beard.

    The same thoughts expressed in yesterday’s thread so I immediately thought about the comments here that we hoped you were happy cause the Oilers win and she with finally getting you to propose.

  108. Pouzar says:

    I got tickets for Mon Night game……please do not stink out the joint guys. Keep er goin!

  109. CrazyCoach says:

    Great Post LT,

    I tuned into the last minute of the game live and then OT. WOW! I had to re-watch the whole game afterwards.

    This looks like a different team than it did in early December. Todd Nelson is doing a great job. Of course I am biased a little as I do coach and I like to see coaches do well. Marincin looks like the player I saw when I watched him play here in PG. Nothing flashy, nothing spectacular, till you look at the score sheet and the corsi.

    I was lucky enough to have been at Nelson’s solo debut against the Kings and I have watched a lot more games under his rein than I did the last two months of Eakins. The players seem more relaxed and more willing to learn and accept instruction these days. Any good teacher will tell you that good teaching involves good relationships and a relaxed teaching environment, not some stupid trite statement printed on the wall.

  110. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Showerhead: Oh and that Nelson guy. Maybe.

    JW weighs in on that: http://oilersnation.com/2015/2/13/todd-nelson-s-edmonton-oilers

  111. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Pouzar,

    Nice! If the Oilers are down a goal with a minute left, I ask that you be “that guy” who walks out early to beat the crowd out of the arena; maybe history can repeat itself, if you catch my drift. ha ha

  112. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    Pouzar: please do not stink out the joint guys

    If I had to predict a game that might possess a bountiful bouquet, I would guess a CBC national broadcast with an early start.

  113. sliderule says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”,

    I read that last night and it’s defiinetly worth a reread.

    That’ is a better commentary on what is happening in the oil world than the crap I pay good money for.

    Thanks!

  114. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    FFS!


    Matt Hendricks did not practice today. He blocked a handful of shots against the Canadiens and at least one of them hurt a little more than usual.

    “Matty took a puck off the ankle and today was a day where he wasn’t able to go out and practice. If anybody knows Matt, he wants to go out there and play. Tomorrow morning we’ll re-evaluate him and we’ll see if he’s good to go for tomorrow.”

    Hopefully Poo is good to go tomorrow, but that will be a game-time decision, according to Nelson.

  115. Chicken Laser says:

    I can’t believe there hasn’t been more commentary in blogs and by the peanut butter sandwich eating TV commentators on the wicked play of Oscar Klefbom. I thought he was the best Oiler or best player on the ice for the last half dozen games or so.

    Also like to say that it’s too bad that instead of constructively hoping for losses for McEichel, I have to hope they play well and win so that the GM will notice (months after everyone else) that players like Marincin and Petry are good and aren’t sent down the road for a used military canteen.

  116. verdad2.0 says:

    This week’s performance only underscores how important it is to have MacTavish dismissed as soon as possible.
    He cannot be allowed to preside over the trading deadline.
    We can all savour the litany of incompetency. But the most egregious is of course the Eakins signing.
    No one was better playing for him. It wasted two years.
    This blog needs to unequivocally come out for his immediate dismissal. How will everyone feel when Petry is dealt for nothing? Just another example.

  117. Pouzar says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”:
    Pouzar,

    Nice! If the Oilers are down a goal with a minute left, I ask that you be “that guy” who walks out early to beat the crowd out of the arena; maybe history can repeat itself, if you catch my drift. ha ha

    I’ll take that bullet again sure 🙂

  118. Auston Matthews '16 says:

    verdad2.0: This blog needs to unequivocally come out for his immediate dismissal.

    I hereby call for MacT’s immediate dismissal! Managerious terminosa!

    Am I doing this right?

    Will you take your rhetoric elsewhere now please?

  119. lance says:

    Here in southern Louisiana there is no sign of a reduction in anything. Absolutely saw em good just fine. Yesterday Oceaneering guaranteed the full diving crew a rig service contract for the next 12 months full go mode.

    Mardi gras is rolling and everyone has so much more endurance than me. I was whipped after day two.

    Glad to read a super positive thread. Fun stuff.

  120. Ca$h-Money! says:

    I showed my wife a picture of Oscar Klefbom.

    She is now officially an Oilers fan.

  121. oliveoilers says:

    verdad2.0:
    This week’s performance only underscores how important it is to have MacTavish dismissed as soon as possible.
    He cannot be allowed to preside over the trading deadline.
    We can all savour the litany of incompetency. But the most egregious is of course the Eakins signing.
    No one was better playing for him. It wasted two years.
    This blog needs to unequivocally come out for his immediate dismissal.How will everyone feel when Petry is dealt for nothing?Just another example.

    Revving up the outrage bus again, I see.

    Do you live under a bridge and have a morbid fear of billy goats, particularly gruff ones that travel in trios?

  122. Lowetide says:

    verdad2.0:

    This blog needs to unequivocally come out for his immediate dismissal.

    It’s an interesting question. I don’t agree he should be dismissed immediately but am also unsure he’s the guy we should be trusting with the future. You’re right, the Petry trade will be a tell. I still think MacTavish looks at the rebuild as having started when he was hired.

  123. spoiler says:

    I had too much to Klefbom last night.

  124. Ca$h-Money! says:

    Lowetide,

    There’s something to be said for experience. Being the GM of the Edmonton Oilers is a tough job to begin with, learning on the job doesn’t make it easier. We can’t expect him to get it all right from day one, and lord knows he hasn’t.

    Best example of this has to be Garth Snow. He was widely considered a terrible GM less than 12 months ago. Today they are my pick to win the cup with a relatively young team that could go on to do great things over the next 5 years.

    For that reason I think the right call is to keep him around. Lowe on the other hand should probably be sacrificed to placate the masses.

  125. spoiler says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”,

    I left at 5 last night to wander down to the pub to watch the game. Don’t normally wear a jersey either, but I did last night… too many damn Hab fans in this town. I was getting lulzed hardcore in the 3rd period by the local riffraff, but thanks to La Bomba, Nuge and Lander, I had the last laugh… and one too many victory beers.

    But anyways, missed about 4 or 5 of your econ posts after I left and finally got caught up on them this aft. Good stuff!

  126. spoiler says:

    Oh, and Todd Nelson cannot be stopped… half the time!
    😉

  127. Bruce McCurdy says:

    SwedishPoster: Rumoured Oiler target showed off his big shot in a scary way the other night when the puck went off a stick and hit former Islander prospect David Ullström in the head link-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY-PUMDpNfY#t=10

    Egads. Shades of Bobo Mironov nearly killing Jason Arnott.

  128. Bruce McCurdy says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”:
    Pouzar,

    Nice! If the Oilers are down a goal with a minute left, I ask that you be “that guy” who walks out early to beat the crowd out of the arena; maybe history can repeat itself, if you catch my drift. ha ha

    We could always ask Zatch to do it.

    Normally I’d be all over your case, Zatch, for leaving early, but in these specific circumstances it’s understandable. I wouldn’t do it, but I can understand why others might. 🙂

    Congrats to you & your betrothed.

  129. barry.moore23 says:

    Klefbom and Schultz are like vanilla ice cream and orange sherbert.

    Dreamsicle !!!!!!

    Ha. That’s a good one.

    ** pats self on back **

  130. Bruce McCurdy says:

    verdad2.0: How will everyone feel when Petry is dealt for nothing? Just another example.

    It is NOT another example because it hasn’t happened yet except in your imagination. Sorry, but I don’t buy the line of thinking: “What is the worst thing that XXX could possibly do to screw things up? Whatever it is, he’ll probably do it. Gord dammit, that’s a firing offence!”

    I come across it occasionally in comments sections and it invariably gets my goat.

  131. G Money says:

    verdad2.0: This blog needs to unequivocally come out for his immediate dismissal.

    This blog and most of its posters tend to look at things in some depth. Being unequivocal is a lot harder when you look past the surface.

  132. spoiler says:

    zatch: Report: She said yes!

    Great story with a happy ending. Thank you for sharing that with us and congratulations to you both.

  133. G Money says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”,

    I saw the post yesterday but can’t remember if I responded.

    In any case, I take no issue with your assessment. As far as I can tell, I’m looking mid-long and you’re looking short-mid.

    Mine is looking at the issue of oil economics fundamentals and those changes will play out over six months or longer. When a company slashes 2015 capex by 80%, it doesn’t actually affect anything for six months or longer.

    As I say, the massive cut and slash we have seen, and the degree to which large reserves cannot in future be exploited at these prices, basically cooks higher oil prices in the future in stone.

    Yours looks at the trader view of the financial assets, which look at future expectations more than current news. They can also become disconnected from the underlying fundamentals for long periods of time. I have no doubt price volatility will be the watchword for many months, and I defer to your experience in that arena!

    A note on rig counts and short term activity (e.g. Lance): as I mentioned yesterday, despite the massive cut and slash, my crews remain maxed out until the end of March or so. After that: crickets. But still busy right now. That’s mostly 2014 capex.

    The bigger the capital investment, the slower the response. I have a friend at Husky who tells me that on-land drilling is at a virtual halt now (hence the rapid week to week drop in rigs), oil sands will slow rapidly but not for months, but they have pre-contracted 500 frontier water rigs (his area), and it will cost more to withdraw from that contract than it will to drill, so they’ll be busy as crap for at least a year. If the downturn lasts that long, then they’ll go quiet, but not until then. So the fact that Oceaneering has crews busy for another year isn’t surprising to me.

  134. linkfromhyrule says:

    With regards to the economy, I’ve never understood the Alberta governments (and the federal government also) aversion to sovereign wealth funds. There are so many other major countries using them to great effect, and yet our dear and noble leaders simply have no time for it. Now we find ourselves at the mercy of low oil prices, despite the fact that we should be in a situation more similar to Norway (although maybe not quite to the same extent). It boggles the mind that the Cons continue to stay in power. Definitely one reason why us Millenials have such a dismal outlook for this country. Zero faith in its leadership.

    I work in the construction industry, and despite everyone suddenly panicking and deciding that profit margins need to be a thing of the past, there is still lots of work out there. I mean lots. Will probably slow down if there’s a prolonged recession, but who knows. Too many people speculating about what COULD happen without really thinking about it imo. In other news, WEM is getting a shiny new parkade!!! Exciting times.

    Loving these Oilers lately though. They’re a great distraction from everything else that’s going on! I was always a defender of Eakins, but why are Nelson’s results so much better than Eakins? Eakins definitely did some things right, but you can’t argue with the results.

  135. linkfromhyrule says:

    Oh, and congrats to Zatch! The Oil win last night was likely a very small sidenote in an otherwise memorable evening for you both. Best of luck to you.

  136. spoiler says:

    linkfromhyrule: With regards to the economy, I’ve never understood the Alberta governments (and the federal government also) aversion to sovereign wealth funds.

    The Alberta Heritage Savings Trust Fund?

  137. sliderule says:

    G Money,

    Baker Hughes shows the offshore rigs hardly changed minus 2 rigs.

    Canadian oil rigs have been laid down by half.

  138. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    sliderule,

    spoiler,

    G Money,

    Can’t disagree with any of your view points overall. It’s been fun, this little aside of discussing oil on an Oilers blog from our various different vantage points. Fascinating. In the meantime, we’ve been witnessing what may be the rebirth of our hockey team. The Renaissance’s poster children are a Vladimir Lenin lookalike and a Swedish Backstreet Boy, no less. Get the enigmatic Tatar and the boy who loved golf too much going (and I think they are about to break out) and we’re on to something!

  139. kinger_OIL says:

    In Vancouver for work: I really like the idea of having the markets close @ 1:00 in the afternoon…Then I have the rest of the day to do stuff, and not worry. For sure when its time to look at vacation property in the south: West Coast is the area, given my profession. Anyway, I digress. It’s nice to see LT raise some doubt on MacT (finally?). After two years on the job, I have not been impressed by his body of work. Right from the get go, announcing who he wanted to trade, rather then trying to create markets: it was the sign of a really poor negociator, who didn’t appreciate what his role as GM really is: managing assets. No process on hiring Eakins, and untill the bitter end saying Dallas was his guy. The firing of Ralph. No C’s, terrible read on D’s, Petry, waiver wire on Lander, Marincin. I don’t think MacT is the right guy for the job: it sucks that the Oil constantly hire personnel in key roles that are paid to “learn on the job”. Even Nicholson, who has never worked in the NHL, just gets gifted his ever increasing role…By the way, NYCOil is giving all you guys some real good institutional insight into the markets: there is some good stuff in there: not Seeking Alpha or Squawkbox: both of which can be good sometimes, but unless you have the right filters, you can’t differentiate the good from the bad and ugly. And congrats to the guy who proposed on Mt Royal: welcome to the team!: that’s a fine proposal story

  140. godot10 says:

    The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL": Kane and Toews play on separate lines, actually.

    Except when Chicago gets desperate, like at critical moments of a playoff series, where the result is in doubt. Then Toews and Kane have tended to play together

  141. Woodguy says:

    zatch:
    Report: She said yes! The view of downtown was incredible. She laughed and called me a goof as she did it, but she was so giddy she couldn’t sleep after

    We left with 3 minutes left, and so missed the fireworks, but here are my impressions by eye:

    That 4th line is worth a damn minus Gazdic. He played much better than I expected. It’s still not good enough. He squandered chances.
    Lander and Klef looked like wiley vets out there. Loved it.
    Ebs and Nuge are the men of this team and it isn’t close.
    Schultz was awful. At one point Desharnais was coming down the wing on a 2 on 2 and Schultz turned himself inside out somehow for no reason and almost fell over.
    At one point, Purcell blew by a habs D and I was shicked. Then I saw it was Markov.
    If you play this game 10 more times, thr average score is 5-2 Oilers. They dominated for long stretches and wiffed a lot of chances.
    Habs have massive issues. The team is so talented they overcome bad coachIng. Therrien won’t get fired even when he should and I strongly feel it will cost Montreal a cup this decade.

    Well done sir!

    This sentence will make your life much better. Use it when you need to, not more.

    “You’re right, I’m sorry”

    I’m serious.

    You may be right, she may be insane, but none of that matters.

    You come to a point in an argument/conversation where you ask yourself “would I rather be right, or be happy?”

    Always choose happy.

    Always.

  142. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    kinger_OIL,

    Heh. We should talk. I have many friends based in Santa Monica, San Diego, and the north shore of Oahu, as well as Hanalei, Kauai who cover Asian markets in their “semi” retirement days.

    They surf and/or golf in the mornings, and then work the afternoon to evening time. I guess it depends on whether you want your mornings free or evenings, really. Asian markets have waaaaay more holidays than US and Canadian as well. Means more random days off and a three-day weekend every month at a minimum.

  143. Woodguy says:

    LMHF#1:
    So, circling back on something from earlier: What do we need to come up with to identify D like Klefbom who will succeed despite the lack of scoring evidence, and separate them from that large group where “no points, no chance” rings true?

    Pts/gm is strictly a CHL thing.

  144. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Woodguy: Well done sir!

    This sentence will make your life much better. Use it when you need to, not more.

    “You’re right, I’m sorry”

    I’m serious.

    You may be right, she may be insane, but none of that matters.

    You come to a point in an argument/conversation where you ask yourself “would I rather be right, or be happy?”

    Always choose happy.

    Always.

    That’s the best advice perhaps ever doled out on this blog, not that I’m an expert on that by any means. I point out that I’m right and I’m freezing my butt off in Toronto on my own. Ha ha ha.

  145. Woodguy says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: Have a listen to the post-game with Nuge from last night. They ask him about the differences with Nelson and he candidly admits they are playing harder. Must kill Eakins to hear that.

    That’s a very clear and deliberate message to the GM.

  146. oliveoilers says:

    Woodguy,

    Hey WG, wanted to ask you about Nelson and his affect on Klef’s SV%!

  147. Ice Sage says:

    Woodguy: Well done sir!This sentence will make your life much better. Use it when you need to, not more.“You’re right, I’m sorry”I’m serious.You may be right, she may be insane, but none of that matters.You come to a point in an argument/conversation where you ask yourself “would I rather be right, or be happy?”Always choose happy.Always.

    zatch: Report: She said yes! The view of downtown was incredible. She laughed and called me a goof as she did it, but she was so giddy she couldn’t sleep afterWe left with 3 minutes left, and so missed the fireworks, but here are my impressions by eye:That 4th line is worth a damn minus Gazdic. He played much better than I expected. It’s still not good enough. He squandered chances.Lander and Klef looked like wiley vets out there. Loved it.Ebs and Nuge are the men of this team and it isn’t close.Schultz was awful. At one point Desharnais was coming down the wing on a 2 on 2 and Schultz turned himself inside out somehow for no reason and almost fell over.At one point, Purcell blew by a habs D and I was shicked. Then I saw it was Markov.If you play this game 10 more times, thr average score is 5-2 Oilers. They dominated for long stretches and wiffed a lot of chances.Habs have massive issues. The team is so talented they overcome bad coachIng. Therrien won’t get fired even when he should and I strongly feel it will cost Montreal a cup this decade.

    Atta boy, Zatch – well done! And an auspicious start, indeed!

    Woodguy’s advice is timeless.
    My obs from a coupla decades of marital linkage: the occasional bit of unexpected domestic work(performed, unbidden, by yourself) yields exponential benefits

  148. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    If you guys haven’t seen the post-practice interviews today with the players and Nelson, it is must-watch stuff. I find most of these “raw” interviews repetitive, but there’s something different about them now.

    Yak talks about feeling like he can play without worrying about making mistakes. He talks about confidence. Klefbom talks about how he doesn’t have to prove himself to Nelson because Nelson knows what he can do; he also talks about confidence. Schultz talks about how good it is to play with Klefbom. Nelson talks about the “culture change” he is trying to create, and have the players play for each other more.

    http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=4&id=751657

    Nelson is the young hockey player whisperer.

  149. Woodguy says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: That’s the best advice perhaps ever doled out on this blog, not that I’m an expert on that by any means. I point out that I’m right and I’m freezing my butt off in Toronto on my own. Ha ha ha.

    Kinds words sir. Thank you.

    Well, sometimes you have to look after yourself first.

    If you love the one you’re with enough to put up with their shit, then that sentence comes in handy.

    Sometimes you just know to leave or else it will be worse for a long time.

  150. Woodguy says:

    oliveoilers:
    Woodguy,

    Hey WG, wanted to ask you about Nelson and his affect on Klef’s SV%!

    Haven’t looked.

    Pretty sure that Klef affects other people.

    People don’t affect Klef.

  151. thejonrmcleod says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Occasionally? There’s an infestation of it.

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