OILERS AT JETS, G58 2014-15

As the season winds down and Craig MacTavish trades away useful pieces, the time has come to talk about next season’s roster. There are good contracts, bad contracts and contracts that no one could get rid of, so we have most of the opening night roster now.

A QUICK LOOK AT 2015-16

POS NAME CAP HIT EXPIRY DATE
G (No. 1 starter)
G BEN SCRIVENS $2,300,000 2016
D NIKI NIKITIN $4,500,000 2016
D MARK FAYNE $3,625,000 2018
D OSCAR KLEFBOM $1,244,000 2016 (rfa)
D JUSTIN SCHULTZ $4,000,000 (est) 2016 (est)
D (Top 4 defender)
D DARNELL NURSE $1,744,000 2018 (rfa)
D ANDREW FERENCE $3,250,000 2017
C RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS $6,000,000 2021
C LEON DRAISAITL $3,400,000 2018 (rfa)
C ANTON LANDER $1,000,000 (est) 2017 (est)
C BOYD GORDON $3,000,000 2016
C (extra C, could be veteran)
L TAYLOR HALL $6,000,000 2020
L BENOIT POULIOT $4,000,000 2019
L NAIL YAKUPOV $2,500,000 2016 (est)
L MATT HENDRICKS $1,850,000 2017
L LUKE GAZDIC $   800,000 2016 (rfa)
R JORDAN EBERLE $6,000,000 2019
R TEDDY PURCELL $4,500,000 2016
R (two-way winger)
R ROB KLINKHAMMER $1,000,000 (est) 2050 (est)
60,713,000

We can quibble over the numbers but the bottom line is Edmonton won’t add too many men this summer BUT those men will be important: starting goalie, top 4 defender to replace Jeff Petry, center and two-way winger. If the cap ends up at $72 million, that’s about 10-12 million for Antti Niemi, Christian Ehrhoff, Derek Roy and Justin Williams. Music! I think Craig MacTavish will be making at least two trades this summer, he might be able to get the center and the winger via free agency.

LOWETIDE TOP 10, 2015 DRAFT

 

  1. (1)C Connor McDavid, Erie Otters (OHL)
  2. (2)C Jack Eichel, Boston U (NCAA)
  3. (3)C Dylan Strome, Erie Otters (OHL)
  4. (4)D Noah Hanifin, Boston College (NCAA)
  5. (5)R Mitch Marner, London Knights (OHL)
  6. (6) D Ivan Provorov, Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL)
  7. (7) D Oliver Kylington, Farjestad (SHL)
  8. (9) C Nick Merkley, Kelowna (WHL)
  9. (12) C Anthony Beauvillier, Shawinigan Cataractes (QMJHL)
  10. (15) R Timo Meier, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL)

 

CURRENT ESTIMATED TRADE VALUES

    • Boyd Gordon: I think he could fetch a pick inside the Top 50 overall—and that’s in a deep draft. Gordon can help in multiple areas, he’d have significant value.
    • Jeff Petry: I’ve been saying a late second or third-round pick (No. 55 to No. 80) but the Franson deal may suggest Petry could fetch a second-round selection. I remain convinced the range predicted earlier (late second to third) is the reasonable line in the sand.
    • Matt Hendricks: A fourth-round pick. Hendricks has more value (imo) to Edmonton than he would if cashed but I wanted to mention it because Elliotte Friedman suggested there would be some interest (while he also said it was unlikely the Oilers would let him go).
    • Derek Roy: A fourth-round pick.  There’s a chance Edmonton will sign him but if they do make a trade I suspect the pick will land around No. 116.
    • Viktor Fasth: A sixth-round pick. I think he’s played well enough to not only increase value but improve his odds of being dealt.

We’re two weeks from the deadline and I wonder if we see Petry’s deal go right down to the wire. There are clubs who need defensemen and with Franson off the market it looks like Petry is the No. 2 free-agent option (behind Andrej Sekera in Carolina) at the deadline.

  • Bob McKenzie: “But I think what you can reasonably expect to get is sort of a middle round pick, a third round pick, for Petry.” Source

 

If the Oilers draft Macdavid or Eichel, what are we to make of Leon? AHL? Left wing? The big man enjoyed a strong week in the WHL and these junior games will do a lot for him. Sending Draisaitl back is probably one of the best moves Edmonton made this winter.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

We’re live at Saikers Acres today, those brave men and women who are playing and volunteering for cancer have my respect and yours, too. 10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Matt Henderson, Hockeybuzz and Oilers Nation. The Petry trade talk had a bizarre weekend.
  • Corey Graham, TSN1260 Oil Kings PBP. Early game for the Memorial Cup champions today, we’ll check in.
  • Dennis King, Oilogosphere icon. SNL 40, NBA  All-Star game, Petry in limbo, Oilers sucked in Ottawa and tonight’s game.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide_ on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. TheOtherJohn says:

    Lowetide:
    So, it’s:

    Eakins/crossover 7-22-7
    Nelson 9-10-3

    Is that right?

    Which equates to 78 points on a full season

  2. jp says:

    Suntory Hanzo:
    gogliano,

    Don’t forget the plus minus as a tie breaker.

    Fairly sure he wants +72

  3. Lowetide says:

    TheOtherJohn: Which equates to 78 points on a full season

    Still, Nelson is getting decent results from a team down guys like Hall and Perron. I don’t know if they’ll hire him for next season but he deserves consideration.

  4. G Money says:

    Lowetide: Still, Nelson is getting decent results from a team down guys like Hall and Perron. I don’t know if they’ll hire him for next season but he deserves consideration.

    In fact, it makes the records a little bit stark. Apart from the occasional absence of Hall, Eakins’ team was fairly (unusually for the Oilers) healthy. Nelson’s been hit with the injuries we all figured would hit at some point.

  5. LoDog says:

    Suntory Hanzo,

    As I would like to read that book.

    37 points -22

  6. maudite says:

    @flyfish

    Better if wild just win. Honestly rather see flames in it than nucks.

    Might signal Nucks to try to burn it down. Might cause flames to go back to trading prospects to scrape into playoffs.

    Plus, I put 400 on wild to win cup a few weeks back. Would love it if they managed to crawl up to 5th. 28 thousand reasons to cheer for them now!

  7. Johnny Larue says:

    I am in Mexico so not having seen the game it seems we can take some positives out of it . Yak scores 2 from the commentry we gave them a good game but lost in the shootout . This seems to me the best outcome possible although I want Edmonton to win in reality it means nothing and I hope Winnepeg makes the playoffs so it is and we are still in the hunt. I really like Nelson and think he should be given the reins for next year . We are missing a lot of our lineup and still take it to a shoot out to me I think the team is progressing.

  8. gogliano says:

    Suntory Hanzo:
    gogliano,

    Don’t forget the plus minus as a tie breaker.

    216 points, +99. In the event I need the tiebreaker. (ETA: Decided against +72 as this is more of a best of series.)

  9. Johnny Larue says:

    We are still are in the hunt for Mc Eichel

  10. TheOtherJohn says:

    LT quit saying he’s down Perron that ship has sailed. He’s plus Roy and Klinkhammer. Team he is coaching is on pace for 78 points: do that twice anywhere and you get fired.. Nelson is doing ok though. Should get full opportunity to apply for the job.

    Guys who should get fired are guys that assembled this abomination at $65m .

    Oilers have not had bad injuries this year. Hall plays a little more than 80% of the games over the last 5 years. . Not a knock on him at all. Just a fact.

  11. Johnny Larue says:

    Don’t worry be happy

  12. Johnny Larue says:

    That’s what the band says

  13. TemujinBC says:

    Because Flames

    Wowsers

  14. Johnny Larue says:

    Melontini ‘s are the best

  15. Oddspell says:

    Suntory Hanzo

    35 points, -33. 16 points and -6 in the last 24 games.

    Game tonight was fun. Yak was on fire. Didn’t really think Klef had a good game in his own end. Made some beautiful defensive plays but also some very poor ones.

    I wish Hamilton was a better shooter, he’d be a far better fit on that line in my opinion.

  16. gogliano says:

    This Flames run of percentages is totally sustainable. Best of luck to them this upcoming postseason.

  17. Pouzar says:

    I tried to leave before the Shootout started. Sorry guys…anyways….

    Not many comments here on Fasth. He was fighting the puck all night. Jezzuz he was shakey.

    Nail. 2nd star. He finally takes to the net on the rush as scores a beauty. I jumped out of my seat.
    Continue to see Lander REAL good. Talk about found money between him and Yak.

    Roy had a real nice game. Came back a number of times and made some nice defensive plays. He distributed the puck nicely and some real good zone entries.

    Ference can’t go away fast enough. Doesn’t tie up Ladd on the tying goal. Game over. Can’t take a pass, can barely make a pass.

    Jultz? SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Petry? Wow. Good luck replacing him MacT.

    The PP looks soooooooooo much better but we have to get a shooter on that first unit…….can’t think of anyone

    Folks, we can roll 4 lines for the first time in forever. However, I have no ungodly clue as to how this defence improves next year.

  18. McSorley33 says:

    Worst D performance by an opposing team since Colorado was in town.

    Mark Fayne is truly not much faster than Ference.

    The Ference, Aulie, Fayne trio is so bad it is positive.

    Anyone brought in next year will automatically be far superior ……

    This forward group hamstrung by our D…..

    Automatic firing if Petry is not resigned.

  19. Магия 10 says:

    Ben:
    If Nelson saves Yak, he should be Skyping with confidence.

    Let’s get that Nooglevader kid up here on emerg. recall right-right?

    Nelson cannot be Skyped.

  20. flyfish1168 says:

    I love to find out what the real reason while MacT hasn’t even offered Jeff a contract.
    Next I like to hear what he sees in Ference, Nikitan and shultz. His optics is really focused differently then ours.

  21. Captain's Log says:

    I don’t even think that was Petry’s strongest game, or even top 5, this season. That said it continues to be abundantly clear to everyone other than MacT that he is our best defender.

    MacT is going to let him go and then pay someone else $6M to be what Petry is.

  22. Lowetide says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    LT quit saying he’s down Perron that ship has sailed

    He’s down Perron. Not saying it doesn’t make things change. The Oilers don’t have David Perron this season and they don’t have him next season. We can pretend the Oilers didn’t have David Perron before but that would be untrue.

    The Oilers are down exactly one Perron.

  23. Johnny Larue says:

    I think Nelson deserves to be extended based on the performance of the team and I think that this shows that the worst move MacT made was the hiring of Eikins . All the rest of the player moves could be explained you win some lose some but Eikins was a disaster everyone digressed . Stupid shit take the ping pong table no beer on the plane take down the pictured no doughnuts for the press etc. That is his biggest mistake and I haven’t forgiven him yet or ever. I am not as pessimistic that we are that far off . But the Petry situation is another strike against MacT given that he is our best D but I am still hopefull that their is an offer in the making.

  24. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Магия 10,

    That was awesome.

  25. Snowman says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    LT quit saying he’s down Perron that ship has sailed. He’s plus Roy and Klinkhammer. Team he is coaching is on pace for 78 points: do that twice anywhere and you get fired..Nelson is doing ok though. Should get full opportunity to apply for the job.

    Guys who should get fired are guys that assembled this abominationat $65m .

    Oilers have not had bad injuries this year. Hall plays a little more than 80% of the games over the last 5 years. . Not a knock on him at all. Just a fact.

    No team trades Perron for Roy and Klink. That’s not a wash. You could offer that to Pittsburgh 1000 times and they’d hang up all 1000 times.

    Nelson unlocked Lander, Eakins sent Lander down the minors. Eakins had an abysmal powerplay. Nelson has a very much improved powerplay. Eakins scratched Yak 4 games into his coaching tenure. Nelson chose Yak for the shootout and trusted him at the end of games. Eakins teams couldn’t score. Nelsons teams do score.

    The fact is Nelson is doing a better job getting the most out of a terrible team than Eakins did. He’s done it with a lesser roster (despite the additions of players like Roy and Klink. Roy/Klink does not equal Perron, Hall and Poulliot)

    The team he is coaching is on pace for 78 points. The team Eakins coached was on pace for roughly 60% of that. Nelson deserves full marks and then some. He’s saved Lander, on the way to saving Yak, developed Klefbom and Petry and has won more hockey games in less time all while making the team generally more watchable. That’s a hell of a coach.

  26. flyfish1168 says:

    I wonder if eakins is watching the highlights of Nigh ill Yakupov tonight. 🙂

  27. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Weird stats for Eberle tonight. He took more faceoffs (1) than he had shots on goal (0) but got 2 apples & did plenty without the puck — 3 hits, 3 blocked shots, 1 takeaway, 1 penalty.

  28. Pouzar says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Weird stats for Eberle tonight. He took more faceoffs (1) than he had shots on goal (0) but got 2 apples & did plenty without the puck — 3 hits, 3 blocked shots, 1 takeaway, 1 penalty.

    He was double shifted a ton tonight. Thought he had a nice game.

  29. PunjabiOil says:

    The stats show Oilers got outplayed considerably today 5 on 5.

    At the same time, Nelson isn’t being given much to work with. I don’t think you can ask too much more from him given what he’s given.

    The Oilers have a rough schedule for the next month, to solidify 29th.

  30. LMHF#1 says:

    If Babcock is given a dump truck full of money and player-personnel authority (the new Sather), any chance Nelson stays on to be the new John Muckler?

    That set up worked pretty well before.

  31. jp says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    Team he is coaching is on pace for 78 points: do that twice anywhere and you get fired..Nelson is doing ok though. Should get full opportunity to apply for the job.

    That would be the best Oilers team since MacT was coaching. That gets him re-signed imo (if he can keep it up). Definitely hope the bar will be set a little higher soon though.

  32. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Thanks for the Yakupov entries into the contest. If anyone else would like a shot at the book, post in this thread and I’ll check in the a.m.

    Yakupov total points and include plus/minus for tiebreaker.

  33. PunjabiOil says:

    Petry situation is just baffling. It’s one of those things that MacT seemed to have talked himself into, and now is too stubborn to rectify it. We saw it with Schultz, we saw it with Marincin, we saw it with Eakins, we’re seeing it with Ference/Nikitin (both already being inked into next year’s lineup) and we’ll see it again in the future. When MacT is set in his ways, he’s not going to re-consider.

    He just isn’t.

    You know, I want to believe they have some sort of plan, but what have they really done in the past 12 months to inspire confidence in such?

    They’ve turned/about to turn two valuable assets in Perron and Petry in more draft picks. Baffling given these players could have been value contracts,.

    It’s becoming increasingly clear by the day that MacT is a bust as a GM. The Oilers have several significant quality assets that will help the team in the forseeable future.

    And that’s why it’s very dangerous to entrust them over to MacT.

  34. ohhell says:

    Yak – 34 points with a -29

  35. Gordies Elbow says:

    ohhell:
    Yak – 34 points with a -29

    I think that, from actually watching the games, plus minus means less from a wingers perspective, and even less from Nail’s perspective.

    He was -4 his first year, and scored 17 goals in the lockout shortened 48 games, playing alongside Horcoff. He played with rookie centres until Edmonton acquired Derek Roy, and Nail’s play has improved since then. Since Nelson’s taken over, he’s been -8, with 11 points, but the Edmonton goaltending has been suspect, to say the least.

    I’d say that the improvement in his scoring, with 6 points in his last 5 games, bodes well for Edmonton.

  36. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Gordies Elbow,

    Agreed about plus minus not meaning much… It was just there for a tiebreaker for the contest.

  37. SwedishPoster says:

    I think Iiro Pakarinen is making a great case for himself as a bottom sixer going forward. Not the highest skill level but he consistently puts pucks on net, hits and does an ok job defensively. Capacity to add more offense than guys like Hendricks, Pitlick and Klinkhammer imo and would probably be a very good option alongside Hendricks and Gordon next season. He has clearly passed Pitlick on the depth chart to my eye. Sure we haven’t seen Pitlcik under Nelson yet but Pitlick imo adds much less offensively, is faster, hits about as much and maybe a bit harder but imo less efficiently, a lot of Pitlicks hits are just for good measure while Pak is fairly efficient on the forecheck.

    Winnipeg is building a Kingsesque team, very heavy lineup, pins you down, puts pucks on net and a lot of traffic in front. They lack the elite skill offensively LA has and they don’t have a gamebreaker like Quick in net but they’re building a very interesting roster. Got some skill coming up from the prospect level as well and that D is shaping up nicely. Might be a contender in the making if they can solve the goaltending.
    They came at us hard and are exactly the kind of team that usually runs the Oil out of the rink, very physical game but I liked how our boys stood up. They bent but didn’t really break. I liked the battle, didn’t like the breakouts for most part and for the second game in a row we had a hard time establishing pressure in the o-zone 5 on 5. The PP did well, the zone entries on the PP has gotten so much better since Nelson arrived, I hate when a team struggle to even set up the PP it’s so frustrating, now we can actually apply some pressure and get the puck moving, the first unit needs to shoot the puck more and especially quicker, every shot comes after the players have looked for other options and usually never reach the net. The second unit gets it off quicker. I wouldnt mind Yak and RNH swapping places, let Ebs run the first unit and RNH the second. I also liked the transitions through the neutral zone today. But most of all the battle.

    Some nasty from the Jets as well, Stuart crosschecking Roy when down, what imo was a blindsided hit on Gazdic, I do realize it was shoulder to shoulder and Gazdic probably should have been more aware of the situation but still a dangerous hit and a couple of minor things. Jets are the most penalized team in the league and it shows, don’t know if they’re actively trying to build a rep but a lot of small slashes and agitiating all over the ice.

    You can argue that Fasth should have gotten the third goal, the second wasn’t perfect(top corner glove side is his weak spot) and he mishandled the puck a few times but he made 42 saves with loads of bodies going to the net, more than once crashing right into him, you’re not going to play every shot perfectly in that scenario, both the questionable goals were good shots, one from short range where Little had plenty of time to get his shot off and the other was a good Myers shot on a lateral pass albeit from the blue line, saveable but far from easy shots imo. He kept his team in what was a real tough game for a goalie. Like the rest of the team he fought hard on a night when things didn’t run smoothly. I like that.

    Yaks extended pointstreak was the best thing about the game though and he looks like a true first overall since entering his third season in games. It was all just a sophomore slump boys!
    Let’s hope he can keep it going, he has had spurts of good play and production before that didn’t last too long, the key is to keep producing even when you have a slightly off game. Eberle and Hall both got that ability. He does look less and less chaotic though so I think there is some hope this a more sustainable run, he goes to better areas and doesn’t look like he’s desperate to make something happen with every touch of the puck. He’s getting better and better at changing pace on the ice, not going full throttle all the time, I think Roy has been key in that regard.

    A tough stretch of games this homestand and with injuries starting to pile up, let’s see if they can keep getting good games and wins when the top western teams starts rolling in. Boston next in what should be a pretty similar style of game to what they faced tonight.

  38. TheOtherJohn says:

    LT

    Huh? We get to continue to calculate players out of the lineup after they’re permanently out of the lineup? Add Gretzky to your list of players we had but no longer have. Coffey, Doug Weight.too. We had those players and no longer have them too. While at same time crediting the coaches record WITH one the players you got in the Perron trade.

    Snowman

    LT’s statement was to the effect Nelson is doing great and is missing Hall and Perron. We are not missing Perron. The people assembling this roster deemed fhim to be surplus and moved him out. He is not coming back. Nelson also has had Roy and Klinkhammer on his roster players not available to Eakins. I did not say anybody would trade those 2 players for Perron. Nor did Pittsburgh have Roy to trade 1000 times over. Those are subtractions and additions to Nelson’s roster

    Realize it’s natural to cling to something that salvages a even small part of this season. Not quite sure 9-10-3 is what I’d be klinging to. Lander coming on as NHLer . Klefbom looking like a real good D, YAK improving, sure. Nelson gets credit for that.

    Also delighted to know we haven’t had 78 points since MacT coached. If you do that twice anywhere you’d generally find yourself getting fired for incompetence. Fact that is great news for Oilers is kind of sad. That number is well below most people predicted numbers for the Oiler season back in October. Today it’s looked upon as a sign of progress. The problem w 9-10-3 is we are now turning back and starting the backstretch of a season where we see a whole lot of WC playoff teams. In a month we may look back at 9-10-3 as the good old days.

  39. anonymous says:

    Would love to know where yak would be without Macts’ coaching continuity.

    Fire Lowe and Mact and we’re cooking.

  40. frjohnk says:

    PunjabiOil:
    The stats show Oilers got outplayed considerably today 5 on 5.

    At the same time, Nelson isn’t being given much to work with.I don’t think you can ask too much more from him given what he’s given.

    The Oilers have a rough schedule for the next month, to solidify 29th.

    Yup

    Last night was the worst shot metric game we have had all year.

    CF% 5 on 5 was 31.2%. ( Its 34.3% when we include all situations.)

    Previous worst was against Det on Jan 6 ( 35.2%)

    Make no mistake we were run out of the building, but we battled and some guys ( Yak, yes) scored some nice goals.

    What Winnipeg played last night was playoff hockey intensity, we have a long ways to go.

  41. frjohnk says:

    Schedule heading forward

    Feb
    5 games against teams in playoff spot or fighting for one.
    0 games against teams with no hope of playoffs.

    March
    8 games against teams in playoff spot or fighting for one.
    5 games against teams with no hope of playoffs. * as of today

    April
    6 games against teams in playoff spot or fighting for one.
    0 games against teams with no hope of playoffs. *as of today

    There are 4 B2B’s ( Nashville, Detroit, Columbus, LA)

  42. Ray says:

    frjohnk:
    Schedule heading forward

    Feb
    5 games against teams in playoff spot or fighting for one.
    0 games against teams with no hope of playoffs.

    March
    8 games against teams in playoff spot or fighting for one.
    5 games against teams with no hope of playoffs. * as of today

    April
    6 games against teams in playoff spot or fighting for one.
    0 games against teams with no hope of playoffs. *as of today

    There are 4 B2B’s ( Nashville, Detroit, Columbus, LA)

    So we should be able to win about 20 of those right? 🙂

  43. frjohnk says:

    Ray: So we should be able to win about 20 of those right?

    7-11-6 in the last 24 games, end up with 60 points, 29th overall

    is my guess.

  44. rickithebear says:

    Suntory Hanzo:
    Gordies Elbow,

    Agreed about plus minus not meaning much… It was just there for a tiebreaker for the contest.

    Yak is a victim of his teamates!

    I am dying here!

  45. Bruce McCurdy says:

    rickithebear: Yak is a victim of his teamates!

    I am dying here!

    Outscoring isn’t important, why would you think otherwise Ricki? 😉

  46. rickithebear says:

    frjohnk: Yup

    Last night was the worst shot metric game we have had all year.

    CF% 5 on 5 was 31.2%. ( Its 34.3% when we include all situations.)

    Previous worst was against Det on Jan 6 ( 35.2%)

    Make no mistake we were run out of the building, but we battled and some guys ( Yak, yes) scored some nice goals.

    What Winnipeg played last night was playoff hockey intensity, we have a long ways to go.

    Hall (198lb) – Lander (186) – XXX
    Poulot (193) – RNH (190) – Eberle (183)
    XXX – Roy (184) – Yak (197)

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