BLUE STEAL

Someone is going to get a helluva defenseman in the next 30 hours. Jeff Petry is an extremely useful blue and one of very few to slip trough the fingers of his drafting team while in the heart of his productive years. It’s a reflection of  a losing organization. Self-inflicted wound, no other way to frame the issue. Petry won’t sign? Instead of blaming the player, perhaps we should reflect on the reasons why this young man isn’t extending with the Oilers. Most players with his ability would have been locked up long ago and that’s for sure. The sunk cost on Petry in terms of scouting, value of draft selection, development and deployment is enormous. At the very moment when Edmonton would be paying in full for his productivity, he’ll be sent away. Which isn’t an issue if the team is a defense factory, but it decidedly is not—now or at any time, really.

You’ll hear lots of venom today on twitter and elsewhere online about the Petry trade. “He was offered $20 million and turned it down” on one side and “no idea what the fuss is about” on the other side. It misses the point, all of it. When we ask ourselves ‘what makes the Oilers different?’ situations like Petry’s are solid examples. What team allows themselves into this predicament? Oh, those Oilers.

  • Joe Haggerty, Comcast Sportsnet:  On defense, a player like Jeff Petry out in Edmonton is an interesting name if the Bruins can get him for a second round pick. Source

The Bruins have their own pick, it would land around No. 46 overall and the players who should be available there (Ethan Bear, MacKenzie Blackwood, Noah Juulsen) are fine prospects. I think Edmonton is likely to receive one of the following packages:

  • A second-round pick and a lesser prospect (say, Dalton Thrower from Montreal who is in the ECHL right now)
  • A legit NHL prospect (I’ll say Ryan Sproul because we’ve mentioned him lots) plus maybe a deep draft pick

If MacT can get a first-round pick that would be a helluva deal but he’s hinted that a player a little closer to NHL-ready would have significant appeal, so Sproul or someone similar is probably about right. I don’t think we’ll be blown away by the return and that marches in lock step with the Hemsky deal a year ago. Edmonton does a splendid job of reducing the value on their players. If MacT gets Joel Edmundson and a fourth-round pick, then the Oilers should sign him now, today. Otherwise, they have no idea what they’re doing.

OILERS PLAYER CARDS, BLUE 2014-15

blue numbers

I’ve included Qual Comp this time (it was suggested the other day). This is via BehindtheNet (I have also used HockeyAnalysis.com and NHL.com in this player card) and the numbers here are Gabe’s but made to be easier to read (I’ve taken out the .00’s). What it tells us is that Marincin—Fayne are getting the tough competition and Ference—Petry are getting the difficult zone starts. To my eye, Dallas Eakins deployed defensemen according to ZS and was less concerned about opponent, while Todd Nelson appears to be matching a little harder and therefore the ZS numbers are closer to 50 for everyone. Last night’s EV TOI deployment:

  • Justin Schultz 22:07
  • Oscar Klefbom 20:40
  • Martin Marincin 18:33
  • Andrew Ference 17:19
  • Jordan Oesterle 16:33
  • Mark Fayne 14:41

Nelson had three Barons in the lineup (Klefbom, Marincin and Oesterle) and they all played significant minutes. If they do replace Todd Nelson, this golden period for AHL farm hands may end. It’s a significant issue. Seriously. If Klefbom, Marincin and others can survive and then prosper, the Oilers will enjoy better depth. One massive difference between Todd Nelson and Dallas Eakins is these kids and for me that’s reason enough to keep Nelson on as head coach.

WAIVERS ERIXON

Tim Erixon’s career trajectory looks like a balloon after it’s been blown up and then released without tying it: all over the place and without any real direction. Predicting his next arrow is impossible but there’s certainly enough intrigue about him for a waiver claim to be contemplated. His NHL career stats are about one season (78GP, 1-12-13) and The Hockey News bio on him suggests a range of skills including offensive acumen. He’s a lefty, meaning his presence could gobble up some Marincin minutes. Todd Nelson seems to believe Marincin has a chance.

There’s a player there. Steady as she goes, Martin Marincin. And for God sakes stay in Edmonton this summer and train like a manic!

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  1. frjohnk says:

    Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper 12s12 seconds ago
    #NHLtrade. Yandle to #Rangers. Girardi expected to be in the deal as well going to #coyotes

  2. Bling says:

    hunter1909:
    Does anyone remember that time when Lowe+MacT announced: “We’re open for business!”, and no one wanted anything to do with them?

    Someone should compile a list of moronic Lowe/MacT quotes and their hilarious consequences.

    My (recent) favourite was MacT promising to be “bold” and then going after Clarkson.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    *tear

  3. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Rangers also at 50 contract limit so something to keep in mind as well.

  4. Woodguy says:

    Somehow Girardi will end up an Oiler.

    *sad trombone*

  5. Rondo says:

    Follow

    Elliotte FriedmanVerified account
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    Yandle has been traded to NYR. Figuring out rest of deal
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  6. Bling says:

    Just saw that Dennis King made a similar comment about Hitchcock on Twitter.

    Yeah, I wouldn’t believe anything Hitch says about this team.

    All you need to know is that it rhymes with schmarmage.

  7. Ryan says:

    Which likely destinations for Petry are left?

  8. Rondo says:

    Follow

    Bob McKenzieVerified account
    ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
    Key components likely to be going the other way are Anthony Duclair and draft picks, incl a 1st round pick. #TradeCentre.

  9. spoiler says:

    Bling: Hah! I wouldn’t pay any attention to this.

    Hitchcock is famous for praising the opposition after his team whips the snot out of them.

    Ron Low famously accused Hitchcock of “Throwing roses on the grave,” after the Oilers lost series after series to the Stars in the late 90s.

    Make no mistake, outside of 97, the Stars manhandled those Oiler teams.

    That was almost 20 years ago.

    Some things never change, eh?

    This is the first thing that came to my mind when I read Hitch’s quote. It was nice to see who here would jump all over Hitch’s words as “evidence”. Useful info.

  10. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Rondo:
    Follow

    Bob McKenzieVerified account
    ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
    Key components likely to be going the other way are Anthony Duclair and draft picks, incl a 1st round pick. #TradeCentre.

    That’s a very steep price in futures to pay.

  11. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Who is going to block shots for the Rangers now?

  12. frjohnk says:

    Nick KypreosVerified account ‏@RealKyper
    Apologies to Girardi. Told he is now not expected in the deal. It’s Moore , Duclair and mult’draft picks. #NHLtrade. #Rangers #Coyotes.

  13. Rondo says:

    Duclair, Moore and a 1st for Yandle, plus Yotes retain 50% of Yandle’s salary.

  14. gogliano says:

    Rondo:
    Follow

    Bob McKenzieVerified account
    ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
    Key components likely to be going the other way are Anthony Duclair and draft picks, incl a 1st round pick. #TradeCentre.

    Seller’s market continues — that’s a huge return for Yandle.

  15. Lucinius says:

    frjohnk:
    Nick KypreosVerified account ‏@RealKyperApologies to Girardi.Told he is now not expected in the deal.It’s Moore , Duclair and mult’draft picks. #NHLtrade. #Rangers #Coyotes.

    Kypreos getting it wrong? Shocking.

  16. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Lucinius: Kypreos getting it wrong? Shocking.

    Rangers fans would have been devastated to lose their shot blocking king!

  17. Klima's_Bucket says:

    gogliano: Seller’s market continues — that’s a huge return for Yandle.

    Who is there left that is still buying? Particularly buying Right shot Dmen?

  18. frjohnk says:

    Klima’s_Bucket: Who is there left that is still buying? Particularly buying Right shot Dmen?

    Calgary

  19. Alpine says:

    That’s a nice return. Moore gets heavily sheltered in NYR, but the fancies don’t mind him at all.

  20. spoiler says:

    Duclair and a 1st is mind-boggling return.

    Cap space does not come cheap.

  21. Rondo says:

    spoiler,

    Don’t forget John Moore

  22. Ryan says:

    Ryan:
    Which likely destinations for Petry are left?

    Montreal, Detroit, Tampa, Washington, Boston, St. Louis and the Ducks.

  23. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Rangers must not be done yet.

    Duclair and Moore out, Yandle in makes 49 contracts. Also there’s next year’s salary to consider.

    Surprised no team offered up a 2015 1st and a prospect for Yandle.

    Not a great return for the Coyotes, in my opinion.

  24. turmoiled says:

    Great blog LT. First time poster. Relatively new reader.
    Nice trade for Arizona. Duclair and Domi should be a handful in a couple of years.

  25. spoiler says:

    Rondo:
    spoiler,

    Don’t forget John Moore

    And another pick! Moore and Summers kind of a wash?

    Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 4m 4 minutes ago

    Girardi never part of Yandle deal. Main components believed to be Yandle, Chris Summers to NYR. ARI gets Duclair, Moore, 1st rder plus pick.

  26. frjohnk says:

    Rangers might also sign Zuccorella

    They are going for it.

    Wonder if EC teams like Boston, Tampa Bay and Pittsburgh also make a big push for a rental?

  27. Eustace Matthews '16 says:

    “We can’t have a bunch of defensemen making $4M.”

    Glen Sather says hello.

  28. Gret99zky says:

    “Hi, you’ve reached the voicemailbox of Craig MacTavish. Our office is closed Sunday so any business you would like to discuss will have to wait until tomorrow. Thanks, and remember, Bold is Beautiful.”

  29. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    frjohnk:
    Rangers might also sign Zuccorella

    They are going for it.

    Wonder if EC teams like Boston, Tampa Bay and Pittsburgh also make a big push for a rental?

    Yup, that’s all in. They must feel confident they can ship out a big salary at the draft? They don’t have cap room.

    I really like Duclair but he is a winger. Given that Arizona retained half the salary for en elite offensive defenseman I’m amazed no other team could offer up a comparable prospect and a 2015 1st to up the ante.

  30. spoiler says:

    Eustace Matthews ’16:
    “We can’t have a bunch of defensemen making $4M.”

    Glen Sather says hello.

    $2.6125M is the touch on Yandle to the Rags.

  31. spoiler says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”:
    Rangers must not be done yet.

    Duclair and Moore out, Yandle in makes 49 contracts. Also there’s next year’s salary to consider.

    Surprised no team offered up a 2015 1st and a prospect for Yandle.

    Not a great return for the Coyotes, in my opinion.

    Chris Summers would make 50 contracts, no?

  32. Eustace Matthews '16 says:

    spoiler,

    They currently have four defenders at $4M+, Klein at $2.9M, and now Yandle.

  33. spoiler says:

    Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 10m 10 minutes ago

    Zuccarello extension with NYR is not done but getting close. Still working on NTC provisions. Likely to be four years, AAV of $4.5M.

  34. Halfwise says:

    Gret99zky:
    “Hi, you’ve reached the voicemailbox of Craig MacTavish. Our office is closed Sunday so any business you would like to discuss will have to wait until tomorrow.Thanks, and remember, Bold is Beautiful.”

    Deadline is tomorrow. It’s too soon to blink.

  35. spoiler says:

    Eustace Matthews ’16:
    spoiler,

    They currently have four defenders at $4M+, Klein at $2.9M, and now Yandle.

    Then your comment would have been more timely last summer, lol. Nothing changed today.

  36. frjohnk says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: Yup, that’s all in. They must feel confident they can ship out a big salary at the draft? They don’t have cap room.

    I really like Duclair but he is a winger. Given that Arizona retained half the salary for en elite offensive defenseman I’m amazed no other team could offer up a comparable prospect and a 2015 1st to up the ante.

    Take a look at this list of teams and first rounders
    http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12386853/2015-nhl-draft-picks-team

    and there were few teams willing to give up a 2015 first pick if any left.
    Maybe ANA, maybe TB but thats about it.

    Duclair was probably the best prospect on the table from potential deals.

    From Arizona’s POV they like it as the trade gives them a really good prospect, a 1st rounder and makes them worse and could be what pushes them to 30th.

  37. spoiler says:

    TSN DEADLINE DAY TRADE BOARD:

    Jeff Petry

  38. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    spoiler: Chris Summers would make 50 contracts, no?

    Yes. That was before I saw Summers was also included.

  39. hunter1909 says:

    Bling: Someone should compile a list of moronic Lowe/MacT quotes and their hilarious consequences.
    My (recent) favourite was MacT promising to be “bold” and then going after Clarkson.
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    *tear

    I remember Lowe+MacT mocking the team with talk about “team toughness” several years ago. Something to the effect that players had to fight their own battles. Needless to say the team’s been having it’s ass handed to them on a regular basis ever since.

    MacT/Lowe had McSorely + Semenko + a host of others to fight their battles for them back in the day, all of which was conveniently forgotten during/since that informative press conference.

  40. Woodguy says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: Yup, that’s all in. They must feel confident they can ship out a big salary at the draft? They don’t have cap room.

    I really like Duclair but he is a winger. Given that Arizona retained half the salary for en elite offensive defenseman I’m amazed no other team could offer up a comparable prospect and a 2015 1st to up the ante.

    Moore isn’t chopped liver and a RFA.

    Decent prospect in Duclair

    2016 (assuming) first and another pick.

    That’s not bad.

    Quantity over quality, but not bad.

  41. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    frjohnk: Take a look at this list of teams and first rounders
    http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/12386853/2015-nhl-draft-picks-team

    and there were few teams willing to give up a 2015 first pick if any left.
    Maybe ANA, maybe TB but thats about it.

    Duclair was probably the best prospect on the table from potential deals.

    From Arizona’s POV they like it as the trade gives them a really good prospect, a 1st rounder and makes them worse and could be what pushes them to 30th.

    I’d still be a bit underwhelmed as an Arizona fan, especially considering the salary retention. And I like Duclair plenty but still. A winger with so so offensive upside and a late first in a weaker draft.

    McDonagh
    Staal
    Girardi
    Yandle
    Boyle
    Klein

    One of the best 1-6 Ds in cap ERA memory. Imagine they’d signed Stralman and traded Girardi instead!

  42. spoiler says:

    I’m not sure how highly NHL GMs valued Yandle:

    Bob Waterman @esbbob · 8m 8 minutes ago

    Should be better with NYR, but Keith Yandle’s minus-55 rating over the last 2 seasons is 2nd-worst in NHL (Yakupov -62).

  43. hunter1909 says:

    frjohnk: From Arizona’s POV they like it as the trade gives them a really good prospect, a 1st rounder and makes them worse and could be what pushes them to 30th.

    Seemingly from out of nowhere, Arizona have emerged as the Secretariat of the 2015 tank sweepstakes.

  44. hunter1909 says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: I’d still be a bit underwhelmed as an Arizona fan

    C’mon. Az haven’t got any fans.

  45. Eustace Matthews '16 says:

    spoiler: Then your comment would have been more timely last summer, lol.Nothing changed today.

    What changed today, is that I looked at the Rangers’ salary:

    http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/NYR?year=2015

  46. gogliano says:

    Maybe MacT is busy working on a 3 for 1.

  47. spoiler says:

    Eustace Matthews ’16: What changed today, is that I looked at the Rangers’ salary:

    http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/NYR?year=2015

    You’re supposed to have the periodic table memorized at the beginning of the year!!!

  48. frjohnk says:

    hunter1909: Seemingly from out of nowhere, Arizona have emerged as the Secretariat of the 2015 tank sweepstakes.

    I figured for awhile that they would be getting rid of Yandle, Vermette, Michalek and embrace the tank.

    Hanzal is done for the year

    Now is Sam Gagner their 1st line center?

    If so, the tank battle is between Arizona and Buffalo now. We are ending up 29th.

  49. Woodguy says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: I’d still be a bit underwhelmed as an Arizona fan, especially considering the salary retention. And I like Duclair plenty but still. A winger with so so offensive upside and a late first in a weaker draft.

    McDonagh
    Staal
    Girardi
    Yandle
    Boyle
    Klein

    One of the best 1-6 Ds in cap ERA memory. Imagine they’d signed Stralman and traded Girardi instead!

    Girardi isn’t that good, Boyle is done and Yandle invented Jultzing.

  50. Halfwise says:

    gogliano:
    Maybe MacT is busy working on a 3 for 1.

    My guess is there are two teams interested in Petry and he’s trying to get them into a bidding war. What he doesn’t know is whether those two teams are talking to each other and whether they are kicking tires with other sellers.

    Interesting times. Personally I preferred the Ference rumors, although they sure vaporized quickly despite being so aromatic.

  51. Woodguy says:

    ARZ traded Yandle, not OEL.

    This is a pretty slick return the more I think about it.

  52. frjohnk says:

    frjohnk: I figured for awhile that they would be getting rid of Yandle, Vermette, Michalek and embrace the tank.

    Hanzal is done for the year

    Now is Sam Gagner their 1st line center?

    If so, the tank battle is between Arizona and Buffalo now.We are ending up 29th.

    Yeah I know talking to myself
    but

    Arizona and I’m sure Bettman would love for Eichel or McDavid to be in the desert.

    They need to sell something to the fans there.

    A generational player would help.

  53. Rondo says:

    When I look at the potential Cup teams this year. Anaheim sticks out the most for needing D.

  54. book¡je says:

    If it were not a ‘thing’ for the Oilers to always be trading late and often not making great trades, I don’t think many of us would mind some patience.

    The reality is that there is a 20% chance that the Oilers won’t trade Petry and another 50% chance that they trade him for low value because they panic at the last minute after mucking up another deal.

    I hope I am wrong, but until they prove themselves competent, the rest of the world is justified in assuming that they are somehow mucking this up.

  55. Marc says:

    Granted this is Kypreos, whose accuracy is hit and miss, but this tweet from the other night:

    Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper Feb 28

    Hearing #Oilers sitting on a potential Petry #NHLTrade. As of this moment he’s expected to be a healthy scratch tonite vs #Blues.

    suggests that MacT has a deal he’s willing to make in his pocket. Now he’s just waiting to see if anyone panics in light of the deals today and ups their offer.

  56. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Woodguy,

    Well, I know Yandle has his warts but defensemen who put up a lot of points and qb a power play usually fetch big returns. Maybe these GMs of the NHL really are getting smarter about possession numbers.

    This does temper my Petry return expectations further though.

    Yandle with 50% retained gets you that, Petry gets…

  57. Pouzar says:

    Jeremy Rutherford ‏@jprutherford 1m1 minute ago
    Petry still available. Word in Edmonton last night is Oilers want a 2nd rounder and prospect. They had a scout at yesterday’s Wloves’ game.

  58. spoiler says:

    The other pick is NYR’s 2015 2nd.

    So

    J. Moore
    Duclair
    2016 1st
    2015 2nd

    for

    Yandle (1/2 salary retained)
    Summers

  59. Zelepukin says:

    BREAKING: MacTavish trades Jeff Petry to OKC for Brad Hunt and 2 ECHL prospects.

  60. Eustace Matthews '16 says:

    spoiler: You’re supposed to have the periodic table memorized at the beginning of the year!!!

    Gee, I was kind of patting myself on the back for remembering the quote…

  61. Eustace Matthews '16 says:

    Marc: suggests that MacT has a deal he’s willing to make in his pocket…

    Let’s hope that wasn’t Duclair and a 2nd!

  62. skidplate says:

    Eustace Matthews ’16,

    Sounds about right………………

  63. Pouzar says:

    http://thehockeywriters.com/whl-roundup-best-of-the-west-poll-is-back/

    Best Stay-at-Home Dman

    Winner: Ben Betker, Everett, 42.40 %

  64. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Woodguy:
    ARZ traded Yandle, not OEL.

    This is a pretty slick return the more I think about it.

    Duclair and Domi make sweet music together.

  65. Woodguy says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”:
    Woodguy,

    Well, I know Yandle has his warts but defensemen who put up a lot of points and qb a power play usually fetch big returns. Maybe these GMs of the NHL really are getting smarter about possession numbers.

    This does temper my Petry return expectations further though.

    Yandle with 50% retained gets you that, Petry gets…

    Well NYR gave up a very good prospect, a young decent NHL Dman, a 1st and a 2nd in a deep draft.

    I wouldn’t expect a prospect as good as they got or a NHL Dman or a 1st.

    I expect a lesser prospect and a 2nd.

    Doesn’t drop Petry’s value at all.

  66. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Duclair and Domi make sweet music together.

    I like Reider and Samuelsson too.

    Wonder how their D prospects look?

  67. Lois Lowe says:

    Arizona made out well. It’s the start of a great supporting cast for McEichel, and OEL invented dreamy/60.

  68. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Woodguy: Well NYR gave up a very good prospect, a young decent NHL Dman, a 1st and a 2nd in a deep draft.

    I wouldn’t expect a prospect as good as they got or a NHL Dman or a 1st.

    I expect a lesser prospect and a 2nd.

    Doesn’t drop Petry’s value at all.

    I’m on the road and didn’t see the 2nd rounder 2015. That makes it better for sure.

  69. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Sault Ste. Marie dont seem to be missing Nurse much. About to win their 9th straight by laying an old fashioned butt whuppin’ on previously red hot London.

  70. Alpine says:

    Woodguy,

    Connor Murphy’s played 55 games for them this season and Brandon Gormley should be there next season. Murphy’s been caved in this year. Gormley needs to stay healthy.

  71. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Woodguy: I like Reider and Samuelsson too.

    Wonder how their D prospects look?

    Well, if you start a rebuild with a 23 year old OEL (who should really have Norris potential) I think you’re in pretty good shape.

    Connor Murphy is a 21 year old (6’4″ 215) 1st overall pick in 2011 who has 86 NHL games to his credit.

    Brandon Gormley is another 1st rounder who is only 23.

    And they also got 23 year old Philip Samuelson from Pittsburgh earlier in the season although I have no idea how good he is.

    Add Hanifan to that group and they should be very good in years to come.

    Edit to add:

    I should also note 6’4″ Ryan MacInnis was drafted by the Yotes in 2014 and has 21G and 54P in 58GP in the OHL this season.

    And, up front, Brendan Perlini has 49P in 34GP in the OHL.

    That’s a pretty nice group to start a rebuild with

  72. Numenius says:

    Woodguy: Well NYR gave up a very good prospect, a young decent NHL Dman, a 1st and a 2nd in a deep draft.

    I wouldn’t expect a prospect as good as they got or a NHL Dman or a 1st.

    I expect a lesser prospect and a 2nd.

    Doesn’t drop Petry’s value at all.

    It’s important, too, to note that Yandle has another year left on his contract. Petry doesn’t.

  73. Doc Savage says:

    Gret99zky: “Hi, you’ve reached the voicemailbox of Craig MacTavish. Our office is closed Sunday so any business you would like to discuss will have to wait until tomorrow. Thanks, and remember, Bold is Beautiful.”

    Everyone knows all the real deals happen at the last minute on trade deadline day. That’s the way it’s always been. Right? Right???

  74. hunter1909 says:

    frjohnk: Now is Sam Gagner their 1st line center?
    If so, the tank battle is between Arizona and Buffalo now. We are ending up 29th.

    Unless Az start winning some games like everyone else, it looks like Oilers will be finishing 3rd last…and the latest lottery odds offer a fair chance that a higher ranked team wins McDavid. All of which means Oilers pick 4th.

    This isn’t exactly chopped liver.

    Do you think the Sabres are going to pass Edmonton?

  75. frjohnk says:

    hunter1909: Unless Az start winning some games like everyone else, it looks like Oilers will be finishing 3rd last…and the latest lottery odds offer a fair chance that a higher ranked team wins McDavid. All of which means Oilers pick 4th.

    This isn’t exactly chopped liver.

    Do you think the Sabres are going to pass Edmonton?

    Oops. I meant 28th.

  76. hunter1909 says:

    Doc Savage: Everyone knows all the real deals happen at the last minute on trade deadline day.That’s the way it’s always been.Right?Right???

    Looks like smart GMs are pre-empting trade deadline day. Palooka GMs *cough MacT cough* will be left with their hockey sticks hanging in the breeze.

  77. Woodguy says:

    Alpine:
    Woodguy,

    Connor Murphy’s played 55 games for them this season and Brandon Gormley should be there next season. Murphy’s been caved in this year. Gormley needs to stay healthy.

    Thanks for that.

    ARZ might need a different coach.

    Tippett is not youngster friendly.

    Maybe swap with EDM?

  78. Lowetide says:

    Woodguy: Thanks for that.

    ARZ might need a different coach.

    Tippett is not youngster friendly.

    Maybe swap with EDM?

    Oilers aren’t going to be a contender next season, I’d rather have Nelson develop the kids for another year. Maybe he’ll surprise us and by the end of 2015-16 the depth should be better.

  79. blainer says:

    Pouzar:
    http://thehockeywriters.com/whl-roundup-best-of-the-west-poll-is-back/

    Best Stay-at-Home Dman

    Winner: Ben Betker, Everett, 42.40 %

    Don’t see anything the wolves have that I would be interested in..maybe Rattie but we are deep on the wing.

  80. LMHF#1 says:

    Gret99zky:
    “Hi, you’ve reached the voicemailbox of Craig MacTavish. Our office is closed Sunday so any business you would like to discuss will have to wait until tomorrow.Thanks, and remember, Bold is Beautiful.”

    Yup. This is the team that has in the past only been capable of doing one thing at a time.

    “Curtis Glencross on line 2!”

    “We have two phone lines?!?! What the…no, we can’t do that. We’re busy signing Marian Hossa. Two negotiations at once…uh oh…I’m dizzy. Time for some juice and a nap.”

  81. Alsker says:

    Lowetide: Oilers aren’t going to be a contender next season, I’d rather have Nelson develop the kids for another year. Maybe he’ll surprise us and by the end of 2015-16 the depth should be better.

    Exactly why management will look for big name coach to come in and over shadow obvious failures in personal changes needed. Love Nelson as coach…BUT..#becauseoilers

  82. blainer says:

    This is shaping up to be a very big year at the draft. Marner is a number one every other year and he will fall to at least three. If I am the oil I take him before Strome. What a year to be drafting at the top of the draft. If we take Marner odds are high that Yak or even Ebs will be traded on the draft floor. As difficult as it has been for us fans this past year of suck really puts us in good shape prospect wise. We now have a lot of assets in which to trade. The Pitts pick and soon to be Petry pick only add to a very interesting off season.

  83. oliveoilers says:

    Woodguy: I like Reider and Samuelsson too.

    Wonder how their D prospects look?

    Reider? Reider? Now why is that name familiar…..

  84. spoiler says:

    LMHF#1: Yup. This is the team that has in the past only been capable of doing one thing at a time.

    “Curtis Glencross on line 2!”

    “We have two phone lines?!?! What the…no, we can’t do that. We’re busy signing Marian Hossa. Two negotiations at once…uh oh…I’m dizzy. Time for some juice and a nap.”

    That was pretty good.

  85. Racki says:

    Re: the original post from LT regarding Petry and the reason why we’re losing him… here here. Couldn’t agree more. I’ve been one of the last people to turn on MacT/Lowe, but these guys clearly have to go because of things like this. This organization is an embarrassment. Thank you for your efforts, but please turn the keys in on your way out.

    Plus the fact that MacT is still stroking Eakins’ ego and doing his best to downplay Nelson’s impact (clearly Nelson is a better coach and Eakins is not at all NHL ready) is both mind boggling and aggravating.

  86. Gerta Rauss says:

    full details now on the Yandle trade

    D Keith Yandle (1/2 salary retained on $5.25cap)
    D Chris Summers
    2016 4th round pick

    for

    F Anthony Duclair
    D John Moore
    2016 1st round pick
    2015 2nd round pick

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-2014-15-complete-trade-list-1.210847

    I think that’s a nice return for Phoenix

  87. spoiler says:

    spoiler:
    The other pick is NYR’s 2015 2nd.

    So

    J. Moore
    Duclair
    2016 1st
    2015 2nd

    for

    Yandle (1/2 salary retained)
    Summers

    Further correction:

    J. Moore
    Duclair
    2016 1st
    2015 2nd

    for

    Yandle (1/2 salary retained)
    Summers
    2016 4th

  88. spoiler says:

    Ha! And Gerta slides in seconds ahead.

  89. Gerta Rauss says:

    spoiler,

    sorry about that..:)

  90. Marc says:

    Stempniak to WPG.

    Another Dartmouth man on a Canadian team that isn’t the Oilers.

    Sigh.

  91. Gerta Rauss says:

    Sounds like Zuccarello is signed as well-Slats has been busy

  92. Eustace Matthews '16 says:

    LMHF#1: “Curtis Glencross on line 2!”

    That’s a great line! If you don’t mind:

    “Curtis Glencross on line 2”

    “Why are you talking about line combinations in the summer, Ms Applebaum? And the only way he plays higher than the third line next year, is if D’ryll says we’re tanking. Now quiet please – I’m on hold with Marcel Hossa’s agent!”

    “Sorry sir…”

    lowers his voice

    “And just between you and I, this guy is a bloody idiot!”

  93. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Sounds like Zuccarello is signed as well-Slats has been busy

    New York…the city that never sleeps.

  94. Snowman says:

    Are Oilers fans the only people watching tradecenter tomorrow?

  95. spoiler says:

    Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 15m 15 minutes ago

    So, it’s NYR trading Lee Stempniak to WPG for Carl Klingberg. #TradeCentre

  96. Gerta Rauss says:

    Snowman:
    Are Oilers fans the only people watching tradecenter tomorrow?

    It’s been a dud for a few years imo

    The Gilbert/Schultz deal was the highlight a few years back, you could see the relief on the faces of the panel that they actually had something to discuss

  97. Lowetide says:

    New post up.

  98. The Artist formerly known as "NYCOIL" says:

    Marc:
    Stempniak to WPG.

    Another Dartmouth man on a Canadian team that isn’t the Oilers.

    Sigh.

    He went to school with some really good friends of mine who played football there.

  99. Marc says:

    The Artist formerly known as “NYCOIL”: He went to school with some really good friends of mine who played football there.

    He was at Dartmouth a few years after I graduated.

    The hockey team was terrible while I was there – they missed the ECAC playoffs all four years, even though at the time 12 out of 14 teams in the conference made the playoffs.

    They turned things around a few years later though, and even produced a bunch of NHLers – Stempniak, TJ Galiardi, David Jones and Tanner Glass. And one big draft bust (Hugh Jessiman).

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