MAKING THE CALL ON 2013’S DRAFT

As we’ve discussed several times before, the Edmonton Oilers may have a tough time signing all of their 2013 draft picks. The club had a lot for one year—10 selections, six from the CHL—and many of these young men have posted good to great arrows all down the line. Darnell Nurse, Bodgan Yakimov and Greg Chase have all signed NHL contracts and Nurse/Chase will turn pro this fall. There are two picks who are college men (Aidan Muir, Evan Campbell) and one Euro (Anton Slepyshev) who may or may not be signed this spring. The CHL kids? Edmonton has to make a decision this spring.

SIGNED MEN

POINTS BY DISCIPLINE, GREG CHASE

PLAYER EV PP PK TOTAL
2012-13 69, 13-23-36 .522 69, 3-9-12 .174 69, 1-0-1 69, 17-32-49 0.710
2013-14 70, 25-31-56 .800 70, 10-19-29 .414 70, 0-0-0 70, 35-50-85 1.21
2014-15 55, 14-24-38 .691 55, 6-11-17 .309 55, 0-0-0 55, 20-35-55 1.00

Chase had a strange beginning to the season but is back on track and should step right into the AHL next year. Edmonton’s efforts to procure centermen (and the development of Yakimov) may mean he plays RW in Bakersfield during 2015-16. A distant bell pick, he absolutely has a bright future based on junior numbers.

 POINTS BY DISCIPLINE, DARNELL NURSE

PLAYER EV PP PK TOTAL
DARNELL NURSE 2012-13 68, 10-17-27(.397) 68, 2-10-12 (.176) 68, 0-2-2 68, 12-29-41 (0.60)
DARNELL NURSE 2013-14 64, 6-15-21 (.328) 64, 6-21-27 (.422) 64, 1-1-2 64, 13-37-50 (.781)
DARNELL NURSE 2014-15 33, 6-13-19 (.576) 33, 3-8-11 (.333) 33, 0-1-1 33, 9-22-31 (.939)

The injury aside, this has been a terrific season for Nurse. I have no idea how long it’ll take the young man to develop in the AHL but when he’s ready he’ll be ready and when he gets 300 NHL games under his belt Nurse could be a game changer. Impressive physical defenseman with skill. Wide range of skills. Music!

THE DECISIONS

POINTS BY DISCIPLINE, MARCO ROY

PLAYER EV PP PK TOTAL
MARCO ROY 12-13 65, 16-25-41 .630 65, 13-13-26 .400 65, 0-0-0 65, 29-38-67 1.03
MARCO ROY 13-14 39, 8-16-24 .615 39, 5-5-10 .256 39, 0-0-0 39, 14-21-35 .897
MARCO ROY 14-15 55, 21-14-35 .636 55, 3-8-11 .200 55, 0-0-0 55, 24-22-46 .836

I’m worried the Oilers won’t sign Roy. His progress since draft day (over two junior seasons) has been minimal by the box cars and that may impact the team’s thinking. Roy’s reputation—a solid two-way player—suggests he can help do more things than score points. The progress of center Bogdan Yakimov at the AHL level may impact Roy’s signing. I’m hopeful the Oilers get a deal done with him.

POINTS BY DISCIPLINE, JACKSON HOUCK

PLAYER EV PP PK TOTAL
HOUCK 2012-13 WHL 69, 15-24-39 .565 69, 8-10-18 .261 69, 0-0-0 69, 23-34-57 .826
HOUCK 2013-14 WHL 69, 24-17-41 .594 69, 9-10-19 .275 69, 1-0-1 69, 34-27-61 .884
HOUCK 2014-15 WHL 61, 13-15-28 .459 61, 9-12-21 .344 61, 0-1-1 61, 22-28-50 .820

Houck is 6.01, 195 according to the WHL site and he is a physical player. Offensively he appears to be on par with Roy (Chase is a superior offensive player) so it may come down to the things each player does and the value placed on those specific skills. I don’t think he’s going to score enough to play on an NHL skill line, meaning (like Roy) we’re talking about a bottom-six forward. Ideally, you sign both and let them fight it out in pro hockey ala Tyler Pitlick and Curtis Hamilton.

POINTS BY DISCIPLINE, KYLE PLATZER

PLAYER EV PP PK TOTAL
OHL 2012-13 65, 4-17-21 .323 65, 1-0-1 65, 0-0-0 65, 5-17-22 .338
OHL 2013-14 66, 12-11-23 .348 66, 9-3-12 .182 66, 1-0-1 66, 22-14-36 .545
OHL 2014-15 62, 19-18-37 .597 62, 8-24-32 .516 62, 2-1-3 62, 29-43-72 1.16

The one slam dunk signing (aside from the three already done and Slepyshev the Russian) is this young man. Informed he was a two-way forward on draft day (stuck behind exceptional depth), we have observed Platzer blossom as a complete player in the OHL in his final year. The offensive spike at evens is impressive and on the power play incredible. Kyle Platzer is a must-sign for Craig MacTavish this spring.

POINTS BY DISCIPLINE, BEN BETKER

PLAYER EV PP PK TOTAL
WHL 2012-13 68, 1-4-5 .074 68, 0-1-1 68, 0-0-0 68, 1-5-6 .089
WHL 2013-14 68, 7-14-21 .309 68, 0-0-0 68, 0-0-0 68, 7-14-21 .309
WHL 2014-15 59, 4-12-16 .271 59, 1-10-11 .186 59, 0-1-1 59, 5-23-28 .475

Betker should be an easy decision based on his progress and skill set. He is a defense-first blue but he’s big (6.06, 220) and has good foot speed. That kind of player—think Matt Greene in his youth—is always going to have value.

SUMMARY

Among the CHL players who still have to be signed (or lost to the player pool), I think Kyle Platzer and Ben Betker will get contracts. After that, Marco Roy and Jackson Houck probably earned contracts but there is going to be an issue for the 50-man list. If Edmonton plans on adding college, Euro and minor league free agents, we may see one or both cut loose before signing. I’d sign them all, Slepyshev too.

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42 Responses to "MAKING THE CALL ON 2013’S DRAFT"

  1. Yak2 says:

    Slepyshev is a must. Can’t let him go. An all Russian line of Slepyshev-Yakimov-Yakupov would be insane.

  2. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Calgary had a 2012 draftee with similar numbers to Platzer play an extra year in junior (Coda Gordon 71P 59GP) Would it be wise to let Platzer play another in Owen Sound?

    Houck is hard to judge. Worse numbers than his draft year, but the leading scorer on his team. Would like to see Ricki’s WOWY numbers with him, like he does with Crouse

  3. JamesL says:

    Yak2,

    Can’t agree with that. This year has shown clearly that Yak needs a veteran center to show him the way. Sticking him with guys with less/no NHL experience is not the answer.

  4. Yak2 says:

    JamesL,

    I didn’t mean anytime soon. Down the line, it would awesome to see

  5. leadfarmer says:

    Cmon buffalo. Although a 3 point game would be ideal

  6. eidy says:

    For me, Slepyshev, Betker and Platzer are sure things. I’m a little worried about Platzer though as so much of it is power play and his best year is behind all 3 of MOR’s even strength points and all but this one for Houck.

    I wonder if Houck would take the AHL contract ala Jones brothers.

    I would definitely send Platzer and Houck back and keep them off the 50 man roster.

  7. Ca$h-Money! says:

    Yak2,

    Agreed. They seem to offer skill sets that complement each other, but that’s a long way away.

  8. Dashingsilverfox says:
  9. Jon K says:

    To be honest I wouldn’t be upset if none of them were signed. Based on their performances in junior to date they are all extremely unlikely for NHL careers.

    Betker and Platzer probably the best bets. Betker as a 6-7, Platzer as a 3rd or 4th line checker.

    If we had the luxury of not worrying about contract numbers I’d sign them and Slepyshev. Otherwise just Slepyshev.

    Buffalo wins tonight, Edmonton 2 points from last again.
    Edit: I’m dumb. Leafs win in SO. Edmonton 3 points out.
    Second edit: Apparently NHL.com was wrong initially and is now corrected. Way to get my hopes up, webmaster.

  10. rickithebear says:

    Ben Betker listed 6’6′ 220lb (2.82)
    WC survey. voted best Def D.

    you need 12 EVG in NHL to be #140-165 fwd.
    that is a .150 EVG/gm in 80 gm schedule.
    11G is a clear top 6 EVG scorer (top 180)
    that is a .145 EVG/gm in 76 gm schedule.

    An effective EVG scorer has more value than the Set-up players oilers usually covet.
    You want a strong EVG/gm player. they do not dely on passers.
    Passers are dependent on who they pass to!
    that trend is obvious league to league!

    EVGPG projected
    Yakimov .320 25 EVG
    Slepyshev .317 25 EVG
    Reider .180 14-15 EVG
    Vesel ,172 14 EVG
    MOR .167 .197 Dre draft .137 Draft +2
    Pitlick .163 13 EVG
    Chase .154
    Muir .153
    MP (19 & 21) NHL .147
    Moroz .145
    —————————————————- .145 EVGPG unless DZ or PK FWD
    Hamilton .143
    Gagner .142
    Houck .130
    Platzer .114
    Martindale .113

  11. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Jon K:
    To be honest I wouldn’t be upset if none of them were signed. Based on their performances in junior to date they are all extremely unlikely for NHL careers.

    Betker and Platzer probably the best bets. Betker as a 6-7, Platzer as a 3rd or 4th line checker.

    If we had the luxury of not worrying about contract numbers I’d sign them and Slepyshev. Otherwise just Slepyshev.

    Buffalo wins tonight, Edmonton 2 points from last again.

    Arizona is the team to watch.

    1-8-1 in their last 10GP.

  12. Jon K says:

    Dashingsilverfox:
    Jason Gregor with an update on Hall.

    http://oilersnation.com/2015/3/11/fact-fiction-and-update-on-hall

    Like Jason, tons of respect for him and his work. The following paragraph from that article made me laugh however:

    “In fact, Fedorov, Lidstrom and Konstantinov never missed the playoffs while in Detroit, so I don’t see a comparison to the start of their careers to the current edition of the Oilers. ”

    The commenter noted, cited by Jason a paragraph earlier:

    “The Oil are just lacking a Fedorov, Lidstrom, Yzerman, Konstantinov.”

    If the Oilers could inject Lidstrom, Fedorov, and Konstantinov into their lineup next season they’d be contending for the playoffs as well. I don’t think I’m shocking anyone by noting that Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Draisaitl, Klefbom, etc are not the Red Wings drafted in the 80s.

  13. Jon K says:

    Dashingsilverfox,

    Agreed. I’ve been watching their games hoping they can score a single goal. Awful team.

    Kind of fun to cheer for Rieder, Gagner, and Arcobello, though.

  14. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Jon K:
    Dashingsilverfox,

    Agreed. I’ve been watching their games hoping they can score a single goal. Awful team.

    Kind of fun to cheer for Rieder, Gagner, and Arcobello, though.

    If “Kyle Wellwood” is your best centre….

  15. pocession charge says:

    Jon K:
    To be honest I wouldn’t be upset if none of them were signed. Based on their performances in junior to date they are all extremely unlikely for NHL careers.

    Betker and Platzer probably the best bets. Betker as a 6-7, Platzer as a 3rd or 4th line checker.

    If we had the luxury of not worrying about contract numbers I’d sign them and Slepyshev. Otherwise just Slepyshev.

    Buffalo wins tonight, Edmonton 2 points from last again.

    Buffalo lost to Toronto in the shootout.

  16. Jon K says:

    pocession charge,

    You’re right, I don’t know how I was looking at the game sheet and missed that. Apologies.

    Edit: Apparently NHL.com incorrectly reported the Buffalo win initially.

  17. pocession charge says:

    Jon K,

    No apology needed. TSN shows Buffalo as having won the game, too.

  18. rickithebear says:

    For any one thinking!

    Kadri (24yr) 6’0″188lb
    .181 EVGPG .64 PPG last 2 seasons.

    Lander (23yr) 6’0″190lb
    reg shift games
    .188 EVGPG .70 PPG

    No way!

  19. Ryan says:

    rickithebear:
    For any one thinking!

    Kadri (24yr) 6’0″188lb
    .181 EVGPG .64 PPG last 2 seasons.

    Lander (23yr) 6’0″190lb
    reg shift games
    .188 EVGPG .70 PPG

    No way!

    I’m too lazy to check, but what’s your sample size for lander? 23 games?

  20. Dashingsilverfox says:

    rickithebear:
    For any one thinking!

    Kadri (24yr) 6’0″188lb
    .181 EVGPG .64 PPG last 2 seasons.

    Lander (23yr) 6’0″190lb
    reg shift games
    .188 EVGPG .70 PPG

    No way!

    Good grief Ricki.

    PPG

    Lander – .162

    Kadri – .618.

    Kadri is a far, far better player.

  21. Ryan says:

    This season Lander has 0.24 evg/60 and 1.42 evp/60 over 23 games.
    Career average is abysmal

    Kadri has 0.75 evg/60 and 1.77 evp/60

    Rnh has 0.9 this season and 1.73

    No, we'd rather have Lander. 🙂

    The one time I reconcile your numbers with reality and they don't jive dude.

  22. Snowman says:

    Kadri is a decent player. Probably turn out to be more productive than Lander. Probably without his defensive awareness or his leaderiness.

    Gotta aim higher than Kadri. Don’t need another smallish softish skilledish center. We had one of those before. Sam Gagner. Aim higher.

    If Kadri is the answer the question must be “Who is a center we’ll have to give up good assets for who is only marginally better than what we’ve got?”

  23. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Snowman,

    P/60 5V5

    Hopkins – 1.81

    Kadri – 1.79

    P/60 5V4

    Hopkins – 2.40

    Kadri – 2.38

    Kadri is in the Hopkins conversation…not the Lander conversation.

  24. Hammers says:

    All this tells us is that McT’s first draft was good or at the least the way it should be . Credit when credit is due .

  25. flyfish1168 says:

    I would love to no why the hockey gods favor the f-in phlegms. How do the get 6 goals on 23 shots and that goaltending . PDO please start normalizing.

  26. Lowetide says:

    Dashingsilverfox:
    Snowman,

    P/60 5V5

    Hopkins – 1.81

    Kadri – 1.79

    P/60 5V4

    Hopkins –2.40

    Kadri – 2.38

    Kadri is in the Hopkins conversation…not the Lander conversation.

    Your Nuge number 5×4 is incorrect, think it’s 3.30 or so. No quarrel with the overall thrust of your post.

  27. book¡je says:

    If I had three wishes (from a Genie or a monkey paw or something) I would use one of them to trap DashingSilverFox and Rickey the Bear in a stuck elevator together for 48 hours.

  28. Lowetide says:

    book¡je:
    If I had three wishes (from a Genie or a monkey paw or something) I would use one of them to trap DashingSilverFox and Rickey the Bear in a stuck elevator together for 48 hours.

    Hmmm. Intriguing.

  29. G Money says:

    book¡je,

    Yeah, you’ll need that monkey paw. Otherwise, their natural habitat would never intersect. You rarely find deep forest under a bridge.

  30. book¡je says:

    G Money:
    book¡je,

    Yeah, you’ll need that monkey paw.Otherwise, their natural habitat would never intersect.You rarely find deep forest under a bridge.

    Nice!

  31. SwedishPoster says:

    I’d try and get everyone signed, maybe a couple of AHL only contracts to see who translates their game to pro hockey. Let them start at the ECHL level and work their way up. Would rather have legit prospects fill in than signing the Brad Winchesters of the world, nothing personal against him but you get my drift.
    I’d Sign John McCarron to an AHL only contract for example, big guy with decent arrows before things went south this season. I’d even throw a contract at Zharkov to see what gives, he looked like a player early on with good hands and ok wheels for a guy his size. Let him climb his way out of the ECHL and see if he can revive his career. If they are interested ofc.
    Making sure you sign the majority of your prospects might help build an atmosphere that the team take care of their own(and not just in management…) which could help building an us vs them culture throughout the ranks. With that in mind I don’t mind that Cam Abney plays in Bakersfield atm(from what I’ve heard, to lazy to google), even though I think he’s a useless hockey player.

  32. Ca$h-Money! says:

    SwedishPoster,

    If you’d sign Zharkov you’re basically saying that you’d sign anyone who looked good on draft day, because he has been utterly abysmal since we picked him.

    McCarron to the AHL only contract makes sense, put him in the ECHL and check in on him 6 months later.

  33. GCW_69 says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Arizona is the team to watch.

    1-8-1 in their last 10GP.

    If the three bottom feeders keep up the pace over their last ten games for the remaining 15 games, the point totals will be

    Arizona – 52 (52.25)
    Edmonton – 52 (51.50)
    Buffalo – 50.

    Edmonton rounds up and Arizona rounds down, so it could easily fall Edmonton’s way, but man that’s a close race to the bottom.

  34. Yeti says:

    G Money: Yeah, you’ll need that monkey paw. Otherwise, their natural habitat would never intersect. You rarely find deep forest under a bridge.

    That’s awesome. But it probably exists… Not sure if there’s elevators, though.

  35. PhrankLee says:

    Lander is no Kadri. Kadri is no Lander, either.

    What makes this position valuable and the reason I would be careful with letting go of Lander is because Todd Marchant.

    with .4 ppg career Todd Marchant had no business in the NHL. (If I parse rtb correctly)

    Todd Marchant was a 17 yr NHL player. How?

    Todd Marchant had 1.5 NHL super-powers:

    Defensive speed and PK scoring threat. Legit PK scoring threat.

    I said threat, not whiz.

    Lander’s role is that of a defensive whiz. That’s supposed to be his super-power. We need 2 guys like that. And one of them better be able to chip in more offence than Gordon. Boyd is not going to last much longer in terms of consistent, uninjured quality. Who do the Oilers target or deal for to cover the role? It has to be from within, imo. We can’t afford to pay a Boyd Gordon what we pay Boyd Gordon. Those dollars should go to buying offence or G. We need to develop a Boyd Gordon.

  36. Cameron says:

    flyfish1168:
    I would love to no why the hockey gods favor the f-in phlegms. How do the get 6 goals on 23 shots and thatgoaltending . PDO please start normalizing.

    Calgary’s PDO (last I checked) was only 101. At the start of the year they were rolling with a 108 and change (Jonas Hiller was channelling his inner Hasek for the first 20 or so games), so it has actually been falling steadily all season.

    A better explanation is that Calgary has created a massive differential between how many penalties they take, and how many PPs they draw. Spending a lot more time on the PP than on the PK has translatable benefits in the standings.

    That and dark sorcery.

    As for ‘why the Hockey Gords…’, just remember that Job was God’s favourite.

  37. rich says:

    GCW_69: If the three bottom feeders keep up the pace over their last ten games for the remaining 15 games, the point totals will be

    Arizona– 52 (52.25)
    Edmonton – 52 (51.50)
    Buffalo – 50.

    Edmonton rounds up and Arizona rounds down, so it could easily fall Edmonton’s way, but man that’s a close race to the bottom.

    Don’t forget, Edmonton is 0-7-1 now without Petry. Even the boys on “The Panel” have admitted the Oilers have not won a game without him this season.

    For you conspiracy theorists, maybe that was MacT’s plan to finish the tank all along. Get rid of your best d-man to ensure you get McEichel.

    One ups AZ and BUF.

  38. SwedishPoster says:

    Ca$h-Money!:
    SwedishPoster,

    If you’d sign Zharkov you’re basically saying that you’d sign anyone who looked good on draft day, because he has been utterly abysmal since we picked him.

    McCarron to the AHL only contract makes sense, put him in the ECHL and check in on him 6 months later.

    That’s a bit of a stretch, he played the majority of the games for his KHL team last season which is pretty solid for a 19-20 year old, mainly in a 4th line role but it’s the 2nd best league in the world and not very forgiving to junior players, I doubt guys like Roy or Houck would be close to makíng a KHL team. Something happened this season to make him fall off completely, he started in the KHL, clearly didn’t play well and seems to have dug himself deeper and deeper. My idea is that a change of scenery and a chance for the team to see him for a full season to see what his issues are might be valuable. One year, AHL only, start in the ECHL and see what he makes of it. He was a near 0,5 goal per game scorer with Belleville and made the russian WJC squad in 12/13, was left out the year after and has just crashed down. He added a lot of mass over one summer if I recall correctly, might have something to do with his demise. I don’t know, he might have lost interest or something but I don’t see what you lose if you give him a minor league contract.

  39. rickithebear says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Good grief Ricki.

    PPG

    Lander – .162

    Kadri – .618.

    Kadri is a far, far better player.

    So you consider 6-11 min in a game a fair measure of skill.
    cause i only looked at regular shift games.

    Say yes to 4th line play!

    Just cause a coach does not want to play a kid does not mean they are terrible

    Kadri: last 2 years.
    20s+shift 12:30 games
    2nd comp with 1st team
    116gm 23 EVG 7 PPG 46 A
    23/116 .198 EVGPG
    .66 PPG
    16 EVG 53 P season

    Anton Lander:
    20 shifts 12:30
    nelson 14-15
    Krueger 12-13
    Renney 11-12
    3rd comp w/ 4th team
    17gm 3EVg 2 PPG 5A
    .177 EVGPG
    .59 PPG
    14 EVG 47P season

    Regular shift under nelson
    10gm 2EVG 2PPG 4A
    .200 EVGPG
    .80 PPG

  40. Jordan says:

    Huh. Some nice prospects and not enough contract space?

    Almost sounds like a good situation for a quantity for quality trade.

    But who am I kidding – this is the Oilers! They’ll never figure it out!

  41. Ca$h-Money! says:

    SwedishPoster: That’s a bit of a stretch, he played the majority of the games for his KHL team last season which is pretty solid for a 19-20 year old, mainly in a 4th line role but it’s the 2nd best league in the world and not very forgiving to junior players, I doubt guys like Roy or Houck would be close to makíng a KHL team. Something happened this season to make him fall off completely, he started in the KHL, clearly didn’t play well and seems to have dug himself deeper and deeper. My idea is that a change of scenery and a chance for the team to see him for a full season to see what his issues are might be valuable. One year, AHL only, start in the ECHL and see what he makes of it. He was a near 0,5 goal per game scorer with Belleville and made the russian WJC squad in 12/13, was left out the year after and has just crashed down. He added a lot of mass over one summer if I recall correctly, might have something to do with his demise. I don’t know, he might have lost interest or something but I don’t see what you lose if you give him a minor league contract.

    In his draft +1 season in the OHL he put up 0.7ppg
    In 2 years after that he’s put up 5 points in 58 KHL games
    He’s put up, from what I can tell, 11 points in 46 games in the VHL/MHL

    So I stand by my reasoning.

  42. SwedishPoster says:

    Ca$h-Money!,

    His OHL numbers are better than Platzer at the same age and not that far off the others. His KHL numbers are bad but he was a 19 yo 4th liner, just winning a spot is more impressive than what guys like Ewanyk have done so far at the pro level and he’s on an ELC. This season has been awful and I’m not saying he’s much of a prospect to hope for at this point, nowhere near an ELC imo, still don’t think there’s much to lose in signing him to an AHL contract. Won’t lose any sleep if they let him go but as a minor league longshot I think it could be worth it and the odds, while miniscule, of him having an HL career aren’t that far off some of the guys in OKC today.

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