OILERS AT BLUE JACKETS, G69 2014-15

We’re in the transition period now, where ‘will Nuge hit 50 points again’? might be followed by ‘will they get that college goalie?’ during conversation. Edmonton Oilers fans may want Antti Niemi, Brent Seabrook and Antoine Vermette this summer but should be hoping to see Martin Jones, Cody Franson and Carl Soderberg or Erik Condra—the team is in rebuild mode again 2015 summer. Find and sign men in their 20’s, you need them here for the long haul. Acquiring a 33-year old defenseman makes no sense when the playoffs are so far down the road. Stay. the. course. If the Oilers had an experienced GM this process could be hurried along a little but the idea of trading for Corey Crawford or Jonathan Quick this summer makes me cringe. Rock, meet hard place. Take your medicine, stay healthy. This is going to take awhile.

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FUN THINGS ON THE WAY

  • Taylor Hall’s return.
  • RNH hitting 50 points AGAIN!
  • Matt O’Connor signing, improving depth at the weakest position.
  • Patrick Hersley getting a two-year deal.
  • Anton Slepyshev signing. Maybe they’ll sign Yaroslav Dyblenko too.
  • Junior signings of kids like Kyle Platzer, Ben Betker, Jackson Houck and Marco Roy.

At the end of the season I’ll run the RE (suggestions for artist? I’m leaning toward Eric Clapton—which would include Yardbirds, Cream, etc—but it’s early days) and of course it’ll be a cracking time leading up to the draft. I have to say though, not having the playoffs to look forward to is a bitter pill. I think that’s the toughest thing about this spring, realizing that (with the Perron and Petry trade for basically picks) we are still so far away from the playoffs.

The Edmonton Oilers are not pointing all of their cannons at the 2016 playoffs, folks. It’s not worth stopping the presses, we already know that in this little corner of the internet. The 50-man list will have names added but they are building toward a new tomorrow that may or may not include Taylor Hall. We’re sailing to the hinterland, from the hinterland. Again. “Get good players, keep good players” we always say but today, after all these years of saying it and Edmonton trading those same players, that phrase sounds like that ancient Chinese curse. “May you live in interesting times” goes the saying. The proper response? “Take the gas pipe”.

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BUTTON’S LIST

Here’s the March Button list, with my rankings in brackets. Craig Button was a very successful scout and scouting director and the list is very imaginative. I’m especially fascinated by his ranking of two USHL kids inside the top 10 overall.

  1. Connor McDavid, Erie (OHL) (1)
  2. Jack Eichel, Boston University (NCAA) (2)
  3. Dylan Strome, Erie (OHL) (4)
  4. Mitch Marner, London (OHL) (3)
  5. Ivan Provorov, Brandon (WHL) (6)
  6. Zach Werenski, Michigan (NCAA) (7)
  7. Kyle Connor, Youngstown (USHL) (22)
  8. Noah Hanifin, Boston College (NCAA) (5)
  9. Brock Boeser, Waterloo (USHL) (32)
  10. Timo Meier, Halifax (QMJHL) (15)

Button’s track record during his time as a scouting director and personnel director in Dallas is impressive, as the team drafted Jarome Iginla, Derian Hatcher, Jere Lehtinen, Jamie Langenbrunner, Marty Turco and Brenden Morrow. He was good. Now, last season he had Zachary Fucale in the top 10 (No. 9 iirc) so he’s not perfect but then again we’re less than one year gone from draft day. I do know USHL players are getting drafted in more prominent spots as the years go by:

  • 2014: No. 15, Dylan Larkin (USNDT) to Detroit Red Wings
  • 2013: No. 25, Michael McCarron (USNDT) to Montreal Canadiens
  • 2012: No. 9, Jacob Trouba (USNDT) to Winnipeg Jets
  • 2011: No. 15, J.T. Miller (USNDT) to NY Rangers

Hmm. They look like they belong, no? Huh.

Oilers have drafted some fascinating characters over the years, none of their stories are more interesting than that of Tony Hand. The legend is finally hanging them up, but like James Brown leaving the stage, one imagines an encore is probable. Hell, he probably starts a 50-year run at old timer’s games later this month!

At this point, there’s no good reason to keep Miller, Hamilton or Davidson on the farm. Edmonton has only one callup but injuries etc could force the issue. If I had to choose one from the group? Miller. He’s had the best season.

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LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy, fluid morning for the show we’re still casting about for guests. Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, Big Mouth Sports. How mad ARE the Leafs at Kadri? Is there a window of opportunity to acquire him? WHAT did he DO?
  • Chris Peters, CBS Sports. We’ll talk about the college free-agent signing window, Matt O’Connor and the quality in the USHL today.
  • Paul Almeida, SSE. Paul will have a strong opinion on the Oilers not trading for Johnny Boychuk back in the fall.

I’m hoping to get an NFL guest to talk free agency, suspect the Eagles are done and that’s fine by me. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide_ on twitter and it’s FRIDAY!!!

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  1. TemujinBC says:

    ELPH to the max tonight!

  2. Lowetide says:

    Yak city is going to be a fun place someday soon.

  3. ashley says:

    Nelson sure likes Yakupov. And what’s not to like. Great attitude, tireless worker, learning the game well at this level, and insane skill.

    Why did Eakins always bench him then throw him under the bus in the post game?

  4. Ice Sage says:

    Oilers off script tonite. Gentlemen, focus on not focussing

  5. PhrankLee says:

    Pinchin’ Marincin. He’s moving his feet well.

  6. Pouzar says:

    Yak is having fun now…bless his heart.

  7. striker says:

    PP 3 of 5 this game

  8. Ryan says:

    ashley:
    Nelson sure likes Yakupov.And what’s not to like.Great attitude, tireless worker, learning the game well at this level, and insane skill.

    Why did Eakins always bench him then throw him under the bus in the post game?

    He was trying to run Yakupov out of town? 🙂

  9. Lowetide says:

    Good God the Oilers have some awful players. Lordy.

  10. LMHF#1 says:

    Don’t get me wrong – the defense is terrible, but Ben Scrivens is a one-man tire fire right now.

    What is he doing back there?

  11. G Money says:

    Lowetide,

    I believe the correct term is “tank expert”

  12. G Money says:

    Man … Jultz …

  13. Lowetide says:

    Justin Schultz is simply awful at defense.

  14. tcho says:

    This is a schedule loss night, right? I’d take Oilers taking it to OT.

  15. Lowetide says:

    Shoot out time!

  16. PhrankLee says:

    Lowetide,

    He doesn’t respect his opponents speed. Ever, Is that why I assume he is arrogant?

  17. Snowman says:

    I will never understand the Schultz start in overtime. How many times does he get burned in the first 25 seconds?

    Answer: Every single damn time we get to overtime.

  18. G Money says:

    Leafs at full tank.

  19. spoiler says:

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Lander on the shootout.

  20. G Money says:

    C’mon Nugey!

  21. G Money says:

    CLANK.

  22. G Money says:

    How do we stack up vs the CBJ in the Ryan department?

    Ryan?

  23. G Money says:

    NAYEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeee …. ee … l?

  24. Big Dan says:

    When I watch this horrid team, I see a team that is oddly only a few moves away from playoff contention. Call me nuts.

    First= fire Kevin Lowe, Craig MacTavish, and Scott Howson.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGNgOPu86hw&sns=fb

    Then, let’s Nashville loses in the first round. Would they trade the slumping James Neal with Seth Jones for Taylor Hall and Justin Schultz?

    TO wants the 3rd overall pick badly. They’d have to take some salary back to dish Phaneuf. Would the 3rd OV pick, Purcell, and Nikitin for Phaneuf be possible?

    Then, sign Derek Roy/ Drew Stafford/ Magnus Paajarvi/ Karri Ramo to affordable contracts. That’s it!

    Nuge, Roy, Gordon, Lander, Draisaitl
    Neal, Yakupov, Hendricks, Paajarvi, Gazdic
    Eberle, Stafford, Klinkhammer, Horak

    Klefbom, Marincin, Ference
    S.Jones, Phaneuf, Fayne, P.Larsen

    Ramo, Scrivens

  25. G Money says:

    Derek Ruhaa didn’t have it.

  26. G Money says:

    Egg for eb.

  27. G Money says:

    C’mon Teddy.

  28. G Money says:

    Sigh.

    Do we call this a moral victory for not getting two?

    Moral loss?

  29. LMHF#1 says:

    Big Dan – you’re kidding on Phaneuf right?

    They should pay us to take him.

  30. Snowman says:

    Typical Oilers… don’t get the result you want or the result you don’t want. It’s like maximum disappointment,

  31. Pouzar says:

    G Money:
    Sigh.

    Do we call this a moral victory for not getting two?

    Moral loss?

    Yes.

  32. RexLibris says:

    Lansky had some interesting opinions re: Kadri and the Leafs.

    I was surprised when he said that the team was going to have to move out Phaneuf and Kessel because they couldn’t provide the kind of leadership and integrity a young core needs.

    For the love of – I hope MacTavish was listening.

    Trade Ference for Gardiner #BecauseCaptainCharacter

  33. thejonrmcleod says:

    Big Dan:
    When I watch this horrid team, I see a team that is oddly only a few moves away from playoff contention.Call me nuts.

    First= fire Kevin Lowe, Craig MacTavish, and Scott Howson.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGNgOPu86hw&sns=fb

    Then, let’s Nashville loses in the first round.Would they trade the slumping James Neal with Seth Jones for Taylor Hall and Justin Schultz?

    TO wants the 3rd overall pick badly.They’d have to take some salary back to dish Phaneuf.Would the 3rd OV pick, Purcell, and Nikitin for Phaneuf be possible?

    Then, sign Derek Roy/ Drew Stafford/ Magnus Paajarvi/ Karri Ramo to affordable contracts.That’s it!

    Nuge, Roy, Gordon, Lander, Draisaitl
    Neal, Yakupov, Hendricks, Paajarvi, Gazdic
    Eberle, Stafford, Klinkhammer, Horak

    Klefbom, Marincin, Ference
    S.Jones, Phaneuf, Fayne, P.Larsen

    Ramo, Scrivens

    Why is Philip Larsen on your hypothetical team?

  34. Jigger says:

    Kelowna & Kamloops on Shaw right now channel 304 high def. Tech problems right now and now sound. Hope they fix it soon.
    Edit: Fixed

  35. Lois Lowe says:

    The Columbus announcers (who are subpar, btw) were really perplexed by Scrivens’ stance in the shootout. I assume that it has something to do with head tracking or whatever the new goalie coach is teaching. Has anyone seen Scrivens do it live?

  36. GCW_69 says:

    Eberle was seventh in scoring for right wingers going into this game. May be sixth after tonight.

    That’s pretty darn good.

  37. Dashingsilverfox says:

    The obvious choice of musical accompaniment to the the RE series is Gaby Haas and the Barndance Gang.

    Not only were they based in Edmonton but they also did a smokin’ version of Yakkity Sax and were world famous for their rendition of the Chicken Dance (with all due respect to the Emeralds).

    Also worth noting, for their adult shows, the Barndance Gang trotted out their topless female accordion player.

    Oh, the humanity!

  38. RexLibris says:

    Dashingsilverfox:
    The obvious choice of musical accompaniment to the the RE series is Gaby Haas and the Barndance Gang.

    Not only were they based in Edmonton but they also did a smokin’ version of Yakkity Sax and were world famous for their rendition of the Chicken Dance (with all due respect to the Emeralds).

    Also worth noting, for their adult shows, the Barndance Gang trotted out their topless female accordion player.

    Oh, the humanity!

    The Chicken Dance. The song that echoes the soul of Alberta.

    I was thinking Yakkity Sax.

    Or, if we’re looking for something for the younger crowd, I believe Weird Al has a catalogue that could be uniquely suited to the Oilers.

  39. Lowetide says:

    Dashingsilverfox:
    The obvious choice of musical accompaniment to the the RE series is Gaby Haas and the Barndance Gang.

    Not only were they based in Edmonton but they also did a smokin’ version of Yakkity Sax and were world famous for their rendition of the Chicken Dance (with all due respect to the Emeralds).

    Also worth noting, for their adult shows, the Barndance Gang trotted out their topless female accordion player.

    Oh, the humanity!

    He also had the most hideous AND cool television show.

  40. spoiler says:

    I am hoping to see the Hall-Nuge-Eberle line chosen for the World Championships this year.

    I think all three need to go for their own development.

    And, Prague.
    😀

    And I am very curious to see what they look like with a real defense pairing behind them.

  41. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Lowetide: He also had the most hideous AND cool television show.

    There has never been and never will be anything quite like it,.

  42. Lois Lowe says:

    I think I’ve mentioned him before, but I think Tom Waits is a great artist for the RE series.

  43. Dashingsilverfox says:

    In other news….Nail Yakupov now is the leading candidate for the Green Jacket at -34.

  44. Lowetide says:

    Dashingsilverfox:
    In other news….Nail Yakupov now is the leading candidate for the Green Jacket at -34.

    He’s certainly adding the minus numbers under Roy. I’m happy he’s scoring and appears to be gaining confidence. It’s been a very tough couple of seasons for him.

  45. Hammers says:

    Boy we must admit Nelson has brought Lander a long way and I’m just guessing but how well could he do if he had 2 NHL wingers . Can Yak hit 20 goals ? Confidence from your coach sure has helped his development . Maybe McT gets another coach but there is something about Nelson . PP better , 2 improving and important forwards for next year in Eberle & RNH who also seem to be getting better even without Hall . Next year shaping well 1st , RNH line ; 3rd , Gordon line; 2nd Yak & Pouliot with XXX or Roy leaving a 4th of Lander , Purcell & Leon , Pitlick , Pakirinen & Gazdic . Goal; & “D” on McT but sign Nelson as the coach .

  46. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Lowetide: He’s certainly adding the minus numbers under Roy. I’m happy he’s scoring and appears to be gaining confidence. It’s been a very tough couple of seasons for him.

    In a re-draft, I doubt he would go top 10.

  47. Hammers says:

    Dashingsilverfox: In a re-draft, I doubt he would go top 10.

    You can say that about lots of draft picks including Eberle who should have been in the top 10 or even top 5 . There is no redraft and players are chosen based on there records the year there drafted . One other thing is Development and that’s on the Oilers .

  48. Johnny says:

    Right when I am about to step off the cliff, I see the hurdler. She is FANTASTIC.

  49. Johnny says:

    spoiler:
    I am hoping to see the Hall-Nuge-Eberle line chosen for the World Championships this year.

    I think all three need to go for their own development.

    And, Prague.

    And I am very curious to see what they look like with a real defense pairing behind them.

    I am curious to see if Ruff is the coach and if Halls game has evolved enough to earn first line ice time.

  50. Johnny says:

    Dashingsilverfox: In a re-draft, I doubt he would go top 10.

    He wouldn’t, but at this point we should be happy it looks as though he might atleast have a career in the NHL.

    Fact is, this is a player none of us should have laid eyes on until about a year from now. Nothing is EARNED in Edmonton.

  51. Lowetide says:

    Johnny:
    Right when I am about to step off the cliff, I see the hurdler. She is FANTASTIC.

    Spellbinding.

  52. gvblackhawk says:

    Hammers: You can say that about lots of draft picks including Eberle who should have been in the top 10 or even top 5 . There is no redraft and players are chosen based on there records the year there drafted . One other thing is Development and that’s on the Oilers .

    In other news, DSF is still using his same tired old schtick. Nothing changes. He’s always been the best hindsight drafter on the internet. And is using +/- to support his argument now, too, like it has any validity at all. Talk about a useless stat — Alex Ovechkin was +45 in 2010, -8 in 2012, -35 last year, and is +11 this year. Such wild fluctuations are not reflective of his true ability. From 2010-2013 Shawn Horcoff was -29, -1, -23, +8 on the Oilers. He must have forgotten how to play defense for two alternating seasons. Alex Edler was -39 last year and +9 this year. The list goes on and on. Anyone who quotes that stat either doesn’t know hockey or just a troll.

  53. gvblackhawk says:

    Johnny: He wouldn’t, but at this point we should be happy it looks as though he might atleast have a career in the NHL.

    Fact is, this is a player none of us should have laid eyes on until about a year from now. Nothing is EARNED in Edmonton.

    Yakupov is second in his draft class in goals and points (playing on a shit team), is trending in a positive direction, and you don’t think he’d go top 10 in a redraft? I disagree.

  54. spoiler says:

    Johnny:
    Right when I am about to step off the cliff, I see the hurdler. She is FANTASTIC.

    Michelle Jenneke. Sports Illustrated model now.

    Here’s the whole race, which by the way she won. You can tell the producer had a hard time not focusing on her the entire pre-race, and make a concession to showing the hold field while the announcers are calling out the names.

  55. Lowetide says:

    When DSF said ‘he wouldn’t go No. 10″ he meant no. 1. I’m sure that’s it. 🙂

  56. Ryan says:

    gvblackhawk: Yakupov is second in his draft class in goals and points (playing on a shit team), is trending in a positive direction, and you don’t think he’d go top 10 in a redraft?I disagree.

    Yakupov still might squeak into the top ten though it’s possible many see him as sort of a draft bust and would skip over him. Even on his recent uptick, 0.5 PPG for a one-dimensional top six winger with limited hockey sense. Ask Robert Nilsson about the demand for that player type.

    Galchenyuk, Forsberg, Lindholm, Matta, Trouba, Rielly, Hertl, and the injury ridled Murray–have all passed him like a bus on the side of the road. That’s eight right there.

    After that, there are other options like Ceci, Dumba, Reinhart or Girgenson.

  57. Zack says:

    Should the Oilers be considering Andrew Hammond, the Hamburgerler? Not for a number one guy but as a solid option at backup. I’m sure he’d cost a lot less than what’s out there or is this a case of a flash in the pan?

  58. OilSafety says:

    Just finished watching the last half of the game on pvr. Got pulled away earlier for baby duty (four month old our first)

    I mentioned it earlier but watching our captain try and pass is painful. Seasoned veteran, Stanley Cup winner and still he passes it to the boards two feet behind a stationary hendo with no pressure. I could understand not hitting tape with a pass to a surging forward but come on. Then in the second he’s deep in his own zone and passes it straight across the crease with absolutely no pressure, 20′ of open ice in front of him. Scrivens had to lift his own stick to make sure the pass didn’t ricochet into the net. Professor looks at captain like he’s grown a third arm ‘what the he’ll capo’.

    And scoring a goal later in the game doesn’t make up for it.

     I hope Mac T is trying to lower expectations for the off season with his comments about our d because between ferences inability to do the fundamentals of hockey and it looking like our opponent is always on a power play when in our zone anytime shultz is on the ice I can’t connect those comments with the on ice product.

    On a positive note lander ebs nuge and yak are awesome.

  59. Jon K says:

    Lowetide:
    When DSF said ‘he wouldn’t go No. 10″ he meant no. 1. I’m sure that’s it.

    My gut response to DSF’s suggestion was to call bullshit but it’s actually not far from the truth. In reviewing the draft, Yakupov would probably go 8th or 9th overall. There was some great talent hidden in that “weak draft”.

  60. gvblackhawk says:

    Ryan: Yakupov still might squeak into the top ten though it’s possible many see him as sort of a draft bust and would skip over him.Even on his recent uptick, 0.5 PPG for a one-dimensional top six winger with limited hockey sense.Ask Robert Nilsson about the demand for that player type.

    Galchenyuk, Forsberg, Lindholm, Matta, Trouba, Rielly, Hertl, and the injury ridled Murray–have all passed him like a bus on the side of the road.That’s eight right there.

    After that, there are other options like Ceci, Dumba, Reinhart or Girgenson.

    You mentioned six legit options but one of them is not Ryan Murray. What has he done besides spending an extraordinary amount of time on IR? Ryan Murray? I don’t think so.

  61. Big Dan says:

    thejonrmcleod,

    MacT seems like to like Larsen. Still owns his rights. He can move the puck. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him come back on a two-way, called up in case of injuries. They’re likely casting Gernat and Hunt loose, so he’d replace them.

    Nurse is ahead of him in real life… but I’d want him to spend a full year in the AHL like Klefbom.

  62. Big Dan says:

    LMHF#1,

    Typical Leaf being run out of town. Just like Larry Murphy.

    You want to wait 3-5 years for Hanifan, go for it. I am sure he will be better than Phaneuf long term. But I’m sick of losing after 9 years.

    You stick Phaneuf and his big shot and physicality on the 2nd pairing and he’ll fit right in. Sure, he’s slow and can get beaten on the outside and he’s overpaid by about $1M/year. But I like seeing him with Marincin or Klefbom on the 2nd pairing a lot more than Nikitin.

    He’s not nearly as bad as the stupid TO media is making him out to be.

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