CRYSTAL BALL (CHIARELLI EDITION)

One way to look into the immediate future is to check on the distant past. When Peter Chiarelli took over the Boston Bruins in 2006, they were a team outside the playoffs with some major roster weaknesses. Their best center was 20 and brillint (C Patrice Bergeron) and their best scoring-winger was 23 and looked like he was going to be a star (Brad Boyes).

CHIARELLI’S FIRST SUMMER (2006)

  • Signed UFA D Zdeno Chara and UFA C Marc Savard to long-term deals. “We were really aggressive out of the gate,” interim general
    manager Jeff Gorton said on a conference call. “It made it much easier to sign Savard after Chara signed with us. He could see how
    serious we were about winning.” Source.
  • Traded D Nick Boynton for D Paul Mara (Boynton started his career as a legit two-way D but had faltered, it was still believed he had potential to become a quality NHL defenseman. Mara had been quite successful in establishing himself as an NHL defenseman, both players were about the same age).
  • Signed Shean Donovan as a free agent in an effort to bring more speed and energy to the Bruins. Source

There were some other things that summer (Raycroft trade, etc) but I want to concentrate on what might happen in the next few months. Chiarelli did most of his shopping via free agency that year (and he has cap room now) and he did trade a young NHL player for one about the same age, only more established. Does that give us insight into this summer? Maybe. Each scenario has unique qualities and the Oilers may want to send away some of these youngsters in order to hurry the progress overall.

One area I should linger on a moment is the time line for Chiarelli’s involvement in transactions. Quoting the article above:

  • Associated Press: Per the agreement between Boston and Ottawa, Chiarelli — who does not officially take over the Bruins until July 15 — wasn’t allowed to advise Boston about any of the Senators free agents.

You are free to believe whatever version of the story suits you, I’m of a mind to believe Chara may have been swayed (LA had apparently offered more money) by Chiarelli’s presence in Boston.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR EDMONTON?

A few things, possibly. We should probably have another look to see if the Oilers problems can be solved with a major free-agent addition or two (we’ve been talking Antti Niemi and Andrej Sekera). And we should also make allowances for the possibility Chiarelli cashes a promising young player who has not yet delivered on all of his potential, with the return being a similar, but more established, talent.

In terms of free agents, the list of available help (Niemi, Sekera, Christian Ehrhoff, Antoine Vermette, Justin Williams, Michael Frolik, Jeff Petry, Sean Bergenheim, Curtis Glencross, Michal Neuvirth, Zbynek Michalek, Carl Soderberg) should be examined again. I’d wager Chiarelli may in fact jump into the pool and attempt to grab a trio of Niemi, Sekera and Soderberg, with a trade for Vladimir Sobotka also possible.

DEALING FOR A MORE ESTABLISHED PLAYER

The Mara deal was an interesting one for both the Bruins and the Coyotes.

  • Gorton from the Bruins side: “The trade enabled us to get somebody who is more offensive and more capable on the power play. I think it will blend well with what we already have and we are looking forward to Paul coming here and wanting to be a part of the turnaround.” Source
  • Mike Barnett, Coyotes GM: “The addition of a young, hard-nosed, two-way defenceman is a plus for our hockey club.”  Source

I’m thinking about two players on the current Oilers roster who are young, have value and have not (as of today) delivered on promise. They are Justin Schultz (RFA with a significant cap hit for next contract) and Nail Yakupov, newly signed to an attractive two-year deal.

WHO WOULD CHIARELLI CHASE?

I think we have a perfect fit scenario this summer, and that comes from cap-troubled teams. Here are some issues:

  • Montreal: Cap a big issue, Jeff Petry performing well. Even if he doesn’t come to Edmonton (it’s very unlikely he would) that’s another name on the free-agent fire.
  • St. Louis: Tarasenko is going to get paid. Does that mean Bouwmeester would come available?
  • Pittsburgh: They have Ehrhoff and Martin as UFA. Would the Pens consider moving Letang?
  • Minnesota: Dubnyk is going to get paid. Would they move Jared Spurgeon?
  • NY Rangers: Everyone is a free agent (well, St. Louis, plus Stepan and Hagelin will get raises). Would the Rangers move Keith Yandle?
  • Los Angeles: Terrible issues here, including Mike Richards and what to do with Slava Voynov. They’re not trading Muzzin or Doughty, but have some nice things.
  • Chicago: The twin tower contracts plus Brandon Saad’s pay day make this an extremely difficult summer. Could the Oilers pry Brent Seabrook out of the windy city?

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

There’s no magic pill, no quick fix. However, Peter Chiarelli went about the work of fixing the Boston Bruins in his first summer (despite some restrictions). There’s no Zdeno Chara out there but there are defenders who could help this team and Chiarelli’s success in Boston from the start suggests there are possibilities we hadn’t discussed previous to his hiring.

The Oilers need help on defense. I don’t think we should discount things like Darnell Nurse making the team this fall, or Niki Nikitin being bought out this summer. It’s possible Andrew Ference takes a job in the organization and retires as a player. There’s a chance Justin Schultz is cashed for a better bet, and maybe this team grabs a Jared Spurgeon to replace him.

The Edmonton Oilers badly need defensemen. It’s been that way since the summer the club lost Chris Pronger, Jaroslav Spacek and Dick Tarnstrom in about 10 minutes after the season.

So many more things appear possible this morning.

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  1. marty62 says:

    BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1): Ha! Just called my buddy to quiz him for more details – he’s usually the guy who remembers this stuff better than I do.

    He said that I was right, in that it was a great celebration and everyone was happy/groovy before we went into that club, but the reason we had no other choice than to go to the right upon leaving, was because the riot police were sweeping in from the left. I was a little too drunk to notice a few hundred cops with shields and batons…

    Another interesting clarification he made, is that he and one of the other guys ran like hell when they noticed the police swarming in, and out-ran some young women to a cab, and got out of there. He figures that one of those young ladies was the one who hosted me for the night.

    now that is what you call good timing…….

  2. spoiler says:

    Eastern Oil: That, and you’re required to complete communion with 12 year old scotch only.

    And pan-fried bison steak. Regression to the meat.

  3. marty62 says:

    BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1): Does that mean that I can deduct my donation to LT?

    Hey if Scientology is a religion, why cant hockey be too?

  4. russ99 says:

    Why would we punt Hendricks – Gordon – Klinkhammer?

    They’re relatively inexpensive and are good at what they do.

    Let’s call out the obvious: we need to dump/buy out/bury Purcell, Nikitin and Ference, then we should have the cap room we need.

  5. marty62 says:

    spoiler: And pan-fried bison steak.Regression to the meat.

    Halleluiah! Praise McJesus! Pass the Scotch!

  6. BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1) says:

    marty62,

    Since you brought it up, I highly recommend a documentary called ‘Going Clear’, if you can ever find it. Jaw-droppingly awesome.

  7. marty62 says:

    russ99:
    Why would we punt Hendricks – Gordon – Klinkhammer?

    They’re relatively inexpensive and are good at what they do.

    Let’s call out the obvious: we need to dump/buy out/bury Purcell, Nikitin and Ference, then we should have the cap room we need.

    Damn I just realized im out of Scotch, there is some 18 yr old Jameson left… Its Whiskey and smooth …. it will do….

  8. marty62 says:

    BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1):
    marty62,

    Since you brought it up, I highly recommend a documentary called ‘Going Clear’, if you can ever find it. Jaw-droppingly awesome.

    I will look it up… gotta be out there somewhere on the ol Al Gore……

  9. RexLibris says:

    If the Oilers were on Netflix:

    Oil Change – series one – synopsis – Steve Tambellini attempts an oil change but gets distracted trying to change muffler bearings and top of halogen fluid.

    Oil Change – series two – synopsis – Craig MacTavish attempts to complete oil change but gets into trouble when he purchases re-purposed generic product from Russian market.

    Oil Change – series three – synopsis – In the wake of their predecessors’ work, Bob Nicholson and Peter Chiarelli change out an entire engine block.

  10. RexLibris says:

    Bruce McMcCurdy retweeted
    Slate ‏@Slate Apr 24

    Watch five weeks of Iceland’s Northern Lights in one staggering time-lapse–VIDEO:http://slate.me/1EnaE9f

  11. BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1) says:

    RexLibris,

    Hopefully he can finish the project before autonomous, electric cars are the norm!

  12. marty62 says:

    RexLibris:
    If the Oilers were on Netflix:

    Oil Change – series one – synopsis – Steve Tambellini attempts an oil change but gets distracted trying to change muffler bearings and top of halogen fluid.

    Oil Change – series two – synopsis – Craig MacTavish attempts to complete oil change but gets into trouble when he purchases re-purposed generic product from Russian market.

    Oil Change – series three – synopsis – In the wake of their predecessors’ work, Bob Nicholson and Peter Chiarelli change out an entire engine block.

    hahaha Awesome

  13. striker says:

    Lois Lowe: You’re probably aware, but politics is a verboten subject here for good reason.

    My mistake, I may have sparked the conversation. I tried not to express any preference. Just found the potential shift in attitudes interesting being a lifelong Albertan and all. I’ll refrain from that topic in the future.

  14. Marc says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Dale Tallon will be all over that.

    He has the cap room to take both Sharp and Seabrook and, of course, has a direct phone line to the Hawks.

    With the recent new deals for Bjugstad and Jagr, Florida have approximately $14M in cap space left for next season, so you are absolutely correct that they have enough space to take both Sharp and Seabrook, who have a combined cap hit of $11.5M.

    Of course that would leave the Panthers with only $2.5M left for new deals for Huberdeau (Florida’s top scorer last season) and Hayes (7th highest scorer last season).

    I can’t see any reason that won’t work.

  15. DocFan says:

    I would think Nikitin for Phaneuf would be a straight up trade. I don’t think I would do it with Phaneufs contract.

  16. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Marc: With the recent new deals for Bjugstad and Jagr, Florida have approximately $14M in cap space left for next season, so you are absolutely correct that they have enough space to take both Sharp and Seabrook, who have a combined cap hit of $11.5M.

    Of course that would leave the Panthers with only $2.5M left for new deals for Huberdeau (Florida’s top scorer last season) and Hayes (7th highest scorer last season).

    I can’t see any reason that won’t work.

    Gee, do you think they might move any of the players on their roster to Chicago in return for that pair.?

    Asking for a friend.

  17. Ducey says:

    DocFan:
    I would think Nikitin for Phaneuf would be a straight up trade. I don’t think I would do it with Phaneufs contract.

    Dion wont do it. He will want to go somewhere he can be anonymous.

  18. striker says:

    RexLibris: Bruce McMcCurdy retweeted
    Slate ‏@Slate Apr 24

    Watch five weeks of Iceland’s Northern Lights in one staggering time-lapse–VIDEO:http://slate.me/1EnaE9f

    Awesome (literally). Thanks for sharing Rex and Bruce.

  19. marty62 says:

    Marc: With the recent new deals for Bjugstad and Jagr, Florida have approximately $14M in cap space left for next season, so you are absolutely correct that they have enough space to take both Sharp and Seabrook, who have a combined cap hit of $11.5M.

    Of course that would leave the Panthers with only $2.5M left for new deals for Huberdeau (Florida’s top scorer last season) and Hayes (7th highest scorer last season).

    I can’t see any reason that won’t work.

    I can see Tallon pushing hard for Sharp, but I really dont see Chicago moving Seabrook. Like I said before they will bite the bullet and get rid of the forwards, but they need Seabrook and Keith to anchor that D corp and stay competitive

  20. stephen sheps says:

    striker,

    I’ve never known this group to shy away from a little bit of the politics over the years. It’s never been the most common topic around these parts (Hockey, Whiskey, meat/cooking techniques, investments, Scar-Jo etc. etc.) but it’s also never been explicitly banned from conversation.

    Also McDavid WOOOOOOOOTT!!!!!
    (Hadn’t said that in a while and a week later it still feels great to type!)

  21. BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1) says:

    Great chart in this article about the Blues: http://www.stlouisgametime.com/2015/4/26/8499975/the-st-louis-blues-and-consistency

    Like a Vollman chart, but graphs avg corsi on the y, and population variance of CF% on the x, for all teams this season (well, Buffalo could’t be worked into the scale of it).

    Shows how consistent each team was over the season.

  22. marty62 says:

    Ducey: Dion wont do it. He will want to go somewhere he can be anonymous.

    All for shipping out Nikitin, but Phaneuf can stay away. I dont care if he regains his form from his early days as a Flame. Oilers dont need an Ego like his in the room. I think Phaneufs game is on a steady slide from now till he retires….. and his contract is a deal killer too

  23. godot10 says:

    Ducey: Dion wont do it. He will want to go somewhere he can be anonymous.

    It is easy to be anonymous in a city that has new shiny toys like McDavid, Nugent-Hopkin, Klefbom, Nurse, Hall, Eberle, and Yakupov.

    Who is going to care about Phaneuf?

    All Phaneuf has to do is play hockey. And it will be easier here because Fayne will take the hardest minutes, meaning Phaneuf can be played more to his strengths. Toronto played him to his weaknesses.

  24. icecastles says:

    BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1):
    I’m told that this means Hungary advances into the WHCs next year. Whatever it is, these guys are ecstatic!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k84weaZCxiU

    You could tell they were pretty Hungary for a win.

  25. marty62 says:

    stephen sheps:
    striker,

    I’ve never known this group to shy away from a little bit of the politics over the years. It’s never been the most common topic around these parts (Hockey, Whiskey, meat/cooking techniques, investments, Scar-Jo etc. etc.) but it’s also never been explicitly banned from conversation.

    Also McDavid WOOOOOOOOTT!!!!!
    (Hadn’t said that in a while and a week later it still feels great to type!)

    Scar – Jo! woooooot! Praise McJesus! happy days………

  26. gr8one says:

    I think Chicago moves Bickell and Crawford before Seabrook and Sharp.

    IMHO there are movable assets on that roster that they can probably manage to not have to hear that team up too much.

  27. marty62 says:

    icecastles: You could tell they were pretty Hungary for a win.

    Who let Gene Principe onto a computer……… hahahahaha

  28. marty62 says:

    gr8one:
    I think Chicago moves Bickell and Crawford before Seabrook and Sharp.

    IMHO there are movable assets on that roster that they can probably manage to not have to hear that team up too much.

    Agree with Bickell, they are regretting tha signing now. They need to keep Saad and some of the other kids. I know they want to keep Sharp, but he is big money. also he is one of the shiniest apples that Chicago has to trade. side note.. Parise short handed goal to start the scoring against St Louis…. too bad we never had a chance to draft a guy like him…. wait a sec…

  29. striker says:

    stephen sheps: (Hockey, Whiskey, meat/cooking techniques, investments, Scar-Jo

    Don’t I know it. Been taking notes for a long while 😉

  30. spoiler says:

    gr8one:
    I think Chicago moves Bickell and Crawford before Seabrook and Sharp.

    IMHO there are movable assets on that roster that they can probably manage to not have to hear that team up too much.

    Probably, or Bickell and Sharp, but you still have to make the phone call, and Bowman might like what you have to offer.

  31. marty62 says:

    spoiler: Probably, or Bickell and Sharp, but you still have to make the phone call, and Bowman might like what you have to offer.

    Agreed and they will get a ton of calls on Seabrook. if Crawford gets to start again in the playoffs and gets his old form back, there will be some teams that would look at him as well

  32. speeds says:

    I kind of think CHi will try to move other players to keep Seabrook, but even if they do put him on the trade market, and even if he’s willing to sign an extension, I’m not sure it’s an automatic that EDM make that deal.

  33. BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1) says:

    icecastles: You could tell they were pretty Hungary for a win.

    I was cheering for Poland there. If they get to move up to the big tourney, their first game against Germany would be frickin’ huge!

  34. Marc says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Gee, do you think they might move any of the players on their roster to Chicago in return for that pair.?

    Asking for a friend.

    So instead of trading just one of Seabrook or Sharp, Chicago will trade both and take back $5M or $6M in contracts?

    That would be…. an interesting approach to securing more cap space.

  35. marty62 says:

    BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1): I was cheering for Poland there. If they get to move up to the big tourney, their first game against Germany would be frickin’ huge!

    You might say it would be the start of a war…….

  36. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Marc: So instead of trading just one of Seabrook or Sharp, Chicago will trade both and take back $5M or $6M in contracts?

    That would be…. an interesting approach to securing more cap space.

    I’m not sure Chicago has to trade Seabrook…they have other options… but suggesting Florida couldn’t absorb their cap hits without moving out $5-$6 million just isn’t accurate.

  37. icecastles says:

    BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1): I was cheering for Poland there. If they get to move up to the big tourney, their first game against Germany would be frickin’ huge!

    I’m still waiting for Ukraine to make some headway in the hockey world. Did a few articles on the national team for Kyiv Post and it’s hard even getting them to print.

    Not sure what the hockey scene is like in either Poland or Hungary, but I suspect it’s not that dissimilar to Ukraine – hockey pretty much died with the fall of the Soviet Union. Anyone there who plays the sport seriously anymore and wants to make a go of it moves to another country before they even hit junior. Makes it near impossible for the game to develop.

  38. Marc says:

    Dashingsilverfox: I’m not sure Chicago has to trade Seabrook…they have other options… but suggesting Florida couldn’t absorb their cap hits without moving out $5-$6 million just isn’t accurate.

    In the interests of not getting sucked into what Woodguy might call a DSFian vortex, this will be my last comment on the matter.

    If Florida take both Seabrook and Sharp, they will have $2.5M with which to sign Huberdeau and Hayes to new deals. Huberdeau scored more than Bjugstad, so it will cost more than Bjugstad’s $4.5M per season to get him signed – say $5M or $6M depending on the term. Hayes scored .5ppg so he’s not signing for less than $3M.

    That means Florida will need $8M or $9M to sign them both, and will have $2.5M if they’ve traded for both Seabrook and Sharp.

    Ergo they will need to move out $5.5M -$6.5M.

    My comment was entirely accurate.

  39. Lowetide says:

    Dashingsilverfox: I’m not sure Chicago has to trade Seabrook…they have other options… but suggesting Florida couldn’t absorb their cap hits without moving out $5-$6 million just isn’t accurate.

    Sure! They could dig a big hole in the basement and stuff Brian Campbell in there. Easy peasy!

  40. Pouzar says:

    SkatinginSand: As much as I hate to agree with you,

    I don’t like you either.

  41. BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1) says:

    Pouzar,

    A little consonantipated today?

  42. rickithebear says:

    CHI have Toews, Kane, Hossa for 26.23M for the next 3 yr.
    PIT has Malkin, Crosby, Hornquist, Kunitz for 26.3M for te next 2 years.
    EDM has Hall, RNH, Eberle, Pouliot, Mcdavid for 25.775 for the next 3 Years.

    Chirelli better not fuck this up!

  43. Dicky94 says:

    All this talk of Hall or Eberle being traded is just silly. They are not going anywhere as well as Nuge. Everyone else will be in play though to acquire a goalie and a couple d men. The 2016 crop of UFA’s is one of the best in a long time. Thats the year Chiarelli can sign a few guys and take a serious run at the cup. Next year will be about evaluating what he has and pushing for a playoff spot.

  44. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Lowetide: Sure! They could dig a big hole in the basement and stuff Brian Campbell in there. Easy peasy!

    Yeah…I can’t imagine Tallon would be able to make a trade with 3rd team to move out some salary.

    That would be UNPOSSIBLE!!!!

  45. Genjutsu says:

    As skilled as Voynov is I want no part of him. The reports of him bashing the television in with her head and then her saying she did it to her self and beyond what I can stomach.

    If he’s guilty, and with what has come out, it seems a near certainty; he is not the type of person that I want on my team.

  46. Marc says:

    Dashingsilverfox: I’m not sure Chicago has to trade Seabrook…they have other options… but suggesting Florida couldn’t absorb their cap hits without moving out $5-$6 million just isn’t accurate.

    Dashingsilverfox: Yeah…I can’t imagine Tallon would be able to make a trade with 3rd team to move out some salary.

    That would be UNPOSSIBLE!!!!

    Wait a minute. Did you hear that?

    What’s that sound?

    Is it….could it be?

    It is!!!

    It’s a DSFian vortex!!!!!

    Run!!!!!!!

  47. Gerta Rauss says:

    It appears that Doug Armstrong in St Louis has been speaking with Flyers GM Ron Hextall about finding NHL goaltending.

  48. Gerta Rauss says:

    BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1),

    What was the name of your band in the 80’s..? (I understand if you don’t want to reveal that publicly)

    If you gigged in Edm in the 80’s there’s a chance I saw you

  49. Pouzar says:

    eidy:
    Side note on the OKC Barons.What a game/comeback last night.I have watched most of the games this year and they are a very good team.Too bad that injuries (particularly at c) and call ups have put a monkey into the 2nd half of the season.They are up 2-0 in their best of five.

    I want to thank Pouzar for the heads up on hockey streams playoff deal.I had been on the AHL package during the year, but with hockey streams you can watch the CHL as well.

    Back to the Barons, there have been some real nice surprises this year.Winquist has been a revelation and a real steal.I suspect he has earned a 2 way deal, but would be thrilled if he stuck around on another AHL deal.They could really use Khaira returning to health and it sounds like he is getting close.Right now Curtis Hamilton has had to switch to centre.

    It would be interesting to get Pouzar (or anyone else that watches regularly) opinion on the defense.I am a big Marincin fan, but I think Davidson has caught and maybe passed him.Brandon has been OKC’s best defender.I could see Marincin becoming Chiarelli’s Boynton to move a young promising player for the more established player.

    You are welcome. Loved watching winning Barons hockey all year.

    I love Martin Marincin and Brandon Davidson. BD is more physical and makes the safe play and his game actually does look better in the AHL. Marincin plays a more finesse game and uses his reach to control gaps and has very good positioning for the most part. IMO, BD is miles better than Ference and should be strongly considered for the #7 d-man as things stand now.

    Hunt is Hunt. Crazy offensive ability in the A but very much a defensive liability down there as well. He is what he is. A very good offensive PP specialist in the AHL.

    I love Oesterle. I think there is a player there. Excellent first pass out of the zone and sublime skater. Has to rely on his smarts and positioning to get by defensively but in his short stint with the Oilers he didn’t look out of place. Looking for him to take a huge step next year in Bakersfield. Reminds me a lot of Tom Poti.

    David Musil is pretty much the opposite of Oesterle. Very physical and not the best skater. Uses his size well and likes to hit guys. I made a comment earlier in the season that his skating didn’t look as bad to me as some have reported.

    Dillon Simpson to me wasn’t as bad as some of the OKC blogosphere were indicating. Pro Hockey is tough and I thought Simpson looked ok and looked a lot better in the last few games. I have seen so much Jultzing over the last 2 years that maybe I forget what poor D-play looks like but I am certainly not down on Simpson at all.

    In Gernat, I didn’t see a lot of improvement over the previous year. Has the physical tools but just doesn’t seem to be taking the next step. I think he is a goner.

  50. Pouzar says:

    BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1):
    Pouzar,

    A little consonantipated today?

    Get off my lawn!

  51. frjohnk says:

    Let me add some gasoline to this fire.

    Florida after signing Bjustad and Jagr have a salary cap near 53 M with 18 players signed. So they can spend 4.5M on average per player needed to get to 22 players with a salary cap of 70M.

    They are in a nice position to snatch some good players.

  52. misfit says:

    Martin is interesting because he would presumably accept a short term contract. Ehrhoff or some of the others will be looking for long term contracts, which we deifinitely shouldn’t be doing on any UFA in his 30’s this year. Especially a LD. The fact that Martin has had success playing a tough minutes role and can move the puck would make for a good shut-down pairing with Fayne.

    I like the thought of bringing Petry back, and I do think he would consider it, but I think we’d be #2 at best behind Detroit. They need a RHS defenseman in the worst way, could give him a contract that he’ll be happy with, and they’re his home team (no doubt his family has already been trying to push him in that direction). It makes a great deal of sense for us, and allows us to move Schultz and not be left with only one RS defenseman in the entire system, but it seems unlikely because the decision is entirely his. That’s certainly a move I’d be trying to make though. The other part of that is, Ciarelli mentioned in his PC that he was an EC guy and admitted he doesn’t know the team great. He may not have Petry too high on his list of UFA defensemen on account of being unfamiliar with the player.

    Schultz seems like the top candidate to me of a young player who could be moved for a player of a similar age but a different style. I think he’s a famous enough name still and his production isn’t bad that he could be a player who draws interest from other teams. I can’t see the Scandellas and Hamonics of the world being available, but I could see a move for that type of player go down. He may also be seen as a cheaper player with potential who could make a best option for a team looking to move a high priced defenseman to get under the cap.

  53. Pouzar says:

    spoiler: What province hasn’t the NDP ruined?Might as well go for this one too.

    What kills me is how they can say they are going to create jobs and not get laughed out of the room.A hundred years or so ago they would have.People were smarter about economics back then.

    Governments cannot create jobs, they can only move them around.

    The fact Notley believes she can means she shouldn’t be leader of anything.The fact the public believes her means they’re going to get the leader they deserve.

    Not that the PCs are any brighter… calling an election in the middle of an economic bust.Who is advising these imbeciles?

    This.

    The NDP party, putting Manitoba in the hole since 1999.

  54. Marc says:

    frjohnk:
    Let me add some gasoline to this fire.

    Florida after signing Bjustad and Jagr have a salary cap near 53 M with 18 players signed.So they can spend 4.5M on average per player needed to get to 22 players with a salary cap of 70M.

    They are in a nice position to snatch some good players.

    If you leave space for Jagr and Ekblad’s bonuses, you lose $4M-$5M of that cap space. And Huberdeau and Hayes need $8M-$9M of new contracts, so in reality you have $4M-$6M for those last two spots.

    I think they can add one impact player, or a couple of good ones.

  55. Dashingsilverfox says:

    frjohnk:
    Let me add some gasoline to this fire.

    Florida after signing Bjustad and Jagr have a salary cap near 53 M with 18 players signed.So they can spend 4.5M on average per player needed to get to 22 players with a salary cap of 70M.

    They are in a nice position to snatch some good players.

    Shhhhh…don’t mention the war.

    They also have a couple of young D who they think they are close to ready.

    I could see them moving Gudbranson and someone like Brad Boyes if they needed more cap space.

    Lots of wiggle room with both Ekblad and Kulikov already playing at a high level.

  56. striatic says:

    godot10: 1) Purcell and Nikitin and the Pitts 1st (initially offer the 33rd pick) for Phaneuf.

    The mythical 3 for 1?

  57. GCW_69 says:

    What do you think the Oilers would need to offer Nashville for Jones?

    What would they need to offer Lou to pry Larsson out of Jersey?

  58. GCW_69 says:

    Dashingsilverfox: I could see them moving Gudbranson and someone like Brad Boyes if they needed more cap space.

    If they want to move Gudbranson, the Oilers should be interested if the price isn’t outrageous.

  59. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Looks like Ken Hitchcock will be available soon.

  60. eidy says:

    Eastern Oil,

    I think the Jones brothers have played pretty well which isn’t surprising as they are a bit older. Connor got the overtime winner last night. Earlier in the year all of Yak 2, Khaira, Iiro the hero all played well. and they miss them all. I thought Moroz has played better as of late. Still a long ways to go, but he has played pretty well in the playoffs. C. Hamilton has been OK at centre, but crooked numbers are hard to come by. Andrew Miller really misses Yakima.

    On defense, Lellagia is playing with hunt and sometimes it is difficult to tell which is which. Both really small, but gifted offensively. Lellagia has impressed with his skating and passing. Simpson has been OK, but not great and Oesterle has had his play drop off. Musil was away this weekend at his grandfather’s funeral. Marincin has showed flashes, but hasn’t been dominant.

    In Goal Broissoit has been really good. He was pulled last night, but was getting pelted. Bachman is a very good goalie as well at this level.

    For disappointments, Ewanyk has been a healthy scratch. Hunt is a defensive liability at this level too. Winchester is done, just done. I hope Chase or Houck comes in for him next game.

  61. waiting for no. 6th says:

    looks like Hitchcock may be getting the boot with minny winning

    Curious as to whom everyone would think to be best suited for the head coach position, between Hitchcock and Mclellan

    As in they both haven’t had much playoff success.. however does that factor into hiring the candidate. just a thought

  62. fifthcartel says:

    Dashingsilverfox,

    I think I’d prefer McLellan to Hitchcock but what a crazy good crop of coaches available.

  63. BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1) says:

    Pouzar: Get off my lawn!

    No – me get off MY lawn – cause I fucking hate yard work!

  64. BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1) says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Rascal. Yeah, I know…

    We were mostly B circuit, but did play the odd gig in the big cities – The Lizzy on Whyte was fairly common.

    We also got to play Lucifers in Calgary during the Olympics. That was such a blast. As it turns out, why that gig didn’t go to a band higher up the food chain, is because that place wasn’t in a hotel, so they had to provide rooms. During the Olympics, that meant the Shamrock. Oh my…

  65. Dashingsilverfox says:

    GCW_69: If they want to move Gudbranson,the Oilers should be interested if the price isn’t outrageous.

    Yeah, I would agree.

    Gudbranson is already playing bottom pairing minutes in Florida and, if the Panthers brought in Seabrook, they might find Gudbranson too expensive for that role going forward

    They have Petrovic and highly rated Ian MacCoshen and Michael Matheson warming up in the bull pen.

    Gudbranson has one year left at a $2.5M cap hit.

    Lots of options for Tallon.

  66. Eastern Oil says:

    eidy,

    Thank you sir, much appreciated. You too Pouzar, both of your insights are valuable with the Barons.

  67. Dashingsilverfox says:

    fifthcartel:
    Dashingsilverfox,

    I think I’d prefer McLennan to Hitchcock but what a crazy good crop of coaches available.

    Maybe San Jose will bring Hitch in to make Thornton’s life miserable.

  68. LadiesloveSmid says:

    GCW_69: If they want to move Gudbranson,the Oilers should be interested if the price isn’t outrageous.

    Looks like he plays some fairly tough minutes and does well in them when he’s no paired with Dylan Olsen. 51.7% CF with Willie Mitchell, who takes the toughest assignments in Florida

    That’s an interesting idea Edmonton should explore

  69. wheatnoil says:

    fifthcartel:
    Dashingsilverfox,

    I think I’d prefer McLellan to Hitchcock but what a crazy good crop of coaches available.

    I’m surprised Julian hasn’t been fired yet in Boston. I wonder if they’re waiting to announce the new GM before they do it. Once that happens, add Julian to the list of available veteran coaches. Talk about a coaching carousel this year! Anyone wanting to see the effects of coaching on analytics might get a few more pieces to the sample size this this year. I wonder if we’ll see any Vigneault / Tortorella swaps.

  70. Dashingsilverfox says:

    LadiesloveSmid: Looks like he plays some fairly tough minutes and does well in them when he’s no paired with Dylan Olsen. 51.7% with Willie Mitchell, who takes the toughest assignments in Florida

    That’s an interesting idea Edmonton should explore

    Yakupov for Gudbranson would be interesting.

  71. Unicorns says:

    G Money: G M

    I think the convo switches to how the ‘Oiler onslaught’ is unstoppable, scenarios of total domination and gloating of how they trounce opponents, worry over inability to stay motivated, crushing blows when series aren’t swept, stuff like that if I remember correctly 🙂

  72. Woodguy says:

    pocession charge: What happened to Stastny this year?He’s been invisible.I think they expected more out of Alex Steen, too.

    Lehtera simple beat him for the sweet 2C spot between Tarasenko and Schwartz

    He spent most of the year between Berglend and Jaskin.

    Even with a shrinking cap he had many suitors last year and should be able to be moved.

    Vancouver, Calgary, Arizona (not cheap, but they need C’s badly), WAS might be able to fit him in, Montreal, NJD maybe.

  73. Woodguy says:

    Bryan:
    I think hanging on to the Pitt pick and possibly packaging it with the #33 pick to move up is the right play to try for another elite dman.It’s a long term solution but there are some dandies this year and perhaps Bob Green can knock it out of the park if he gets a chance.Sign some solid vets to fairly short term for the defence and for god sakes find some goalies.

    I like Provorov alot, alot.

    Unfortunately when I look at who picks 4-10 they are could use very good Dmen (which is probably why they are picking 4-10) and I doubt he slides to someone willing to trade away from him.

    Maybe Lou at 6 would trade out for 16 and 33?

    For young Dmen he has Larsson, Severson, and Gelinas as regulars and Helgeson played 22 games this year.

  74. godot10 says:

    Marc: If you leave space for Jagr and Ekblad’s bonuses, you lose $4M-$5M of that cap space. And Huberdeau and Hayes need $8M-$9M of new contracts, so in reality you have $4M-$6M for those last two spots.

    I think they can add one impact player, or a couple of good ones.

    Huberdeau will likely get something similar to Yakupov….2 years @$2.5 million. He hasn’t done anything to get one of those extended contracts. Ditto Jimmy Hayes.

    Duchene’s transition deal with Colorado was two years at $3.5 million per season, and neither of those two has done anything close to what Dushene did.

    Yakupov’s contract was actually generous on MacT’s part…but maybe MacT felt guilty because of what the dementor did to him.

  75. Dashingsilverfox says:

    godot10: Huberdeau will likely get something similar to Yakupov….2 years @$2.5 million.He hasn’t doneanything to get one of those extended contracts.Ditto Jimmy Hayes.

    Duchene’s transition deal with Colorado was two years at $3.5 million per season, and neither of those two has done anything close to what Dushene did.

    Yakupov’s contract was actually generous on MacT’s part…but maybe MacT felt guilty because of what the dementor did to him.

    I’d guess a bridge deal for Huberdeau as well.

    Ran across this article this morning which suggests the same thing.

    http://www.foxsports.com/florida/story/five-questions-facing-the-florida-panthers-this-offseason-042315

  76. speeds says:

    Woodguy:

    Maybe Lou at 6 would trade out for 16 and 33?

    If there’s a team willing to trade down, my guess is it would be a team picking 10-12, just going from memory on the relative cost to trade up. San Jose at 9 has traded down in the past, however not sure they would do it at 9 for the 33rd.

  77. misfit says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Yakupov for Gudbranson would be interesting.

    I can definitely appreciate that Yakupov doesn’t have the trade value a #1OV pick should 3 years out, but Gudbranson’s stock should have dropped even moreso considering he’s solidly a 3rd pairing defenseman at this point. And with nearly 300 games played already, how much further development do you expect to see from him going forward? I like Yak’s chances of being a 1st line winger much more than Gudbranson’s chances of being even a 2nd pairing defenseman. And I’m not even a big Yakupov believer.

  78. godot10 says:

    waiting for no. 6th:

    Curious as to whom everyone would think to be best suited for the head coach position, between Hitchcock and Mclellan

    This is an easy question. McLellan. Hitchcock would be a horrible coach for a young team. He also doesn’t like creativity. He coaches systems, and stifles improvisation. Hitchcock is good for a veteran team with limited high end talent.

    Quennevelle and McLellan with let the talent play and be creative.

    When Chicago gets in real trouble, Quenneville just sends Kane over the boards with Toews and Keith and says sick’em. Hitchcock loses in the playoffs because he doesn’t coach that way. He doesn’t know where the overdrive and afterburners on his teams are.

  79. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    How about that Dubnyk kid for goalie? Big, calm, good rebound control, shut down the high-powered Blues and apparently he has a lot of friends on the Oilers.

    🙁

  80. Dashingsilverfox says:

    misfit: I can definitely appreciate that Yakupov doesn’t have the trade value a #1OV pick should 3 years out, but Gudbranson’s stock should have dropped even moreso considering he’s solidly a 3rd pairing defenseman at this point.And with nearly 300 games played already, how much further development do you expect to see from him going forward?I like Yak’s chances of being a 1st line winger much more than Gudbranson’s chances of being even a 2nd pairing defenseman.And I’m not even a big Yakupov believer.

    Gudbranson is only 23 (same age as Marincin) …still room for a D to grow.

    6’5″ defensémen don’t grow on trees especially ones with 245 NHL games on their resume.

    I think he would be a very good bet as a potential #2-#3 defenseman and…he’s a righty.

    A more valuable commodity than a winger.

  81. Woodguy says:

    DOOBIE!!!!!

    I’m so happy for him.

    Went from wondering if he could gets a job with a young family to winning a playoff round, Vezina nod and a big offer coming from MIN and even bigger if he decides to hit the open market (MIN won’t let him get to the open market, book it)

    Doobie and Parise with huge games.

    Wish the Oilers had a chance to get guys like that. (natch)

    I’m so fucking glad those two yahoos don’t make decisions anymore for the team I cheer for.

    I’m so glad that Nicholson “asked the question” about the GM and POHO and found them wanting.

    I had high hopes for MacT.

    Its a shame.

    A shame for the team, the players and the fans that he didn’t work out and set the team back further on D and G.

  82. spoiler says:

    If Hitchcock is the next coach of the Oilers, I stop watching hockey on the spot. Call me when he’s gone.

  83. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    waiting for no. 6th: Curious as to whom everyone would think to be best suited for the head coach position, between Hitchcock and Mclellan

    Given the choice between the two, I stick with Nelson. What does McLellan offer over Nelson? Style-wise, not much. They both let their skill players do their thing.

    In the locker room, well, there’s no contest. Nobody on the Sharks is lamenting McLellan’s departure and it’s not like the players there are known for being circumspect with the media.

    In the playoffs, well, McLellan certainly has more NHL appearances than Nelson but given the rosters he’s had, it’s pretty amazing he’s never gotten out of the West, never mind won the Cup.

    Babcock or bust, IMO.

  84. Rondo says:

    Does STL losing give Oilers a better pick in the 3rd round?

  85. wheatnoil says:

    If Dubnyk makes the Finals, would it be sacrilegious to consider giving him the Stan Weir treatment on this blog? What a great comeback story. I hope he wins the Conn Smythe.

  86. godot10 says:

    Gudbranson isn’t a good enough upgrade unless he is replacing Justin Schultz, and Schultz is going elsewhere.

    Last year the right side was Petry, Fayne, Schultz. Gudbranson, Fayne, Schultz is worse. The Oilers have to aim higher.

    Which is why I argue Phaneuf (because I don’t believe Seabrook is available.)

    Gudbranson and Franson are NOT good enough right D to improve on Petry. Phaneuf (or Seabrook, if you can get him) are.

    The other advantage of Phaneuf is because of his contract, one can dump Nikitin and Purcell on the Leafs because the Leafs can buy them out, because they will not be cap constrained the next two years, and the Oilers should be able to outbid everyone because they can offer the Pittsburgh pick.

    And dumping Nikitin and Purcell contracts means the Oilers can pursue another good D like Martin or Sekera or Petry.

    Two legit D, with money left for a goaltender and one significant forward.

  87. Woodguy says:

    RexLibris:
    From David Staples’ article on Nurse v McDavid (a battle every Oilers fan wins, regardless of outcome).

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2015/04/25/darnell-nurse-hanging-in-against-connor-mcdavid-just-barely/

    Thanks to Jonathan Willis for tweeting it.

    Reading it makes me almost giddy at Nurse’s skill set.

    When reading about Staples judging Dmen, just remember this:

    He wanted to trade either Hall or Eberle for Oleksiak after seeing Oleksiak play a couple games in the AHL.

    True story.

  88. maudite says:

    I disagree on one piece of the narrative that seems to be almost cemented in place here. The fate of Darnell Nurse.

    He’s two years removed from draft, he’s bigger and stronger and done so without losing ELC years on that contract. Bully for the Oilers for once.

    If Nurse is one of your top 6 D, why is that such a problem? Seriously?

    The bomb
    Marincin
    Nurse

    Left side, while young, seems pretty solid and I wouldn’t take issue running with that out of the gate. It solves a lot of problems internally and I would argue how much 40 games in the AHL are really going to matter in the grand scheme from this point forward.

    Without somehow trying to run a narrative that this could be a problem. A much more sensible one develops:

    What do we need on the right side of this equation to make this work?

    Klef XXXX
    Marincin Fayne
    Nurse XXX (I would argue that a Petry would be brilliant fit here)

    Instead of even thinking of adding 10% to Shultz contract (which is absurd IMO). I don’t think I would qualify him even. He’s in a spot where a Yak like contract would make sense but continuing on his smartly laid out approach to maximizing dollars does not really make sense. So there is 4 million bucks. Tack on another half million or so and sign a Petry up on a 3-5 year style deal. Better bet.

    Buyout Nikitin and Ference.

    Figure out what fits best in that top XXX (realizing that Petry can fill in there decent enough at times given history). Try to make sure that XXX has a point shot.

    100% God no to Dion. That contract is far too short term beneficial to justify it’s shitty end.

    As far as goaltending goes:

    If Vancouver could be convinced taking Miller off their hands would be a bit of a solid and it doesn’t cost much, way rather go this route if NAME GOALIE is required. Especially over throwing out similar level of cash with longer term for the likes of a Niemi.

  89. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox: I wasn’t being tongue in cheek there…Colborne has really impressed me this season.

    The reaction to the Canucks loss has been pretty muted.

    I don’t think many fans and certainly not the Canucks brass expected much more than this out of this season.

    The team is undergoing a transition to try and get more speed and youth into the lineup so it’s a work in progress and they have miles to go.

    One bright spot was the play of Bo Horvat who was superb in his role…looks to be a very good 2nd line centre in the years ahead.

    But their aging defense was their biggest issue…Bieksa was awful and I think Benning is going to really regret the contract he handed out to Sbisa.

    Benning is going to make sure that team is spinning its wheels for the entire time he’s in charge and it should take Linden about 6 years to figure it out.

  90. godot10 says:

    It is a real bummer that Anderson got a chance in the playoffs for Ottawa. No way they trade him now. And if he was available, the price is no longer discounted.

    Likely Hammond or Lehner is headed to Buffalo.

  91. maudite says:

    WE debate trading Drai or Yak + for Jones but somehow won’t dare consider Nurse full time NHL because of being 3 draft positions later (and just dominating on every stage available this year).

    ????

  92. Woodguy says:

    BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1): Giddy alright – giddy UP! As in, has Nurse grown a bit, or are we already seeing a bio bump in stats, ala Gagner?

    Oilers site lists 6′ 4″ 205 lbs (kinda shrimpy these days)

    Staples says 6′ 5″ 210 lbs (getting there, but not quite a CFP)

    Spector says 6′ 6″ ??? lbs (one can hope he’s right)

    HE’S 6’9 AND 275 POUNDS WITH FIRE COMING OUT OF HIS EYES, ANVILS FOR HANDS AND HE FARTS LIGHTNING BOLTS!!!!

    From what I hear.

  93. godot10 says:

    maudite:

    100% God no to Dion.That contract is far too short term beneficial to justify it’s shitty end.

    If one sign Klefbom and Nurse (and Marincin) to long term seven or eight year contracts after their entry level deals, Phaneuf’s contract will not be a problem.

    Also Subban reset the salary scale for D, so in another year, Phaneuf’s contract won’t actually seem so bad.

  94. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Would the Oilers be interested in an Eberle or Yakupov to the Panthers for Gudbranson and a swap of 1st round picks moving Edmonton up to 11th and the Cats down to 16thish.
    The trade would solve the Panthers scoring woes and still give the Cats a solid player at 16.
    The Oil would get a right shot young Dman and a shot at Rantanen or Meier. Both of which are close to NHL ready.

  95. Woodguy says:

    marty62: Bo Horvat will be a bright light for the Canucks for a long time….

    Bo Horvat will be the only bright light for the Canucks for a long time…..

    I like Tanev too…..

  96. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox,

    I guess you can never have too many centres

    We will always agree on this.

    And fine whiskey.

  97. godot10 says:

    Klima’s_Bucket:
    Would the Oilers be interested in an Eberle or Yakupov to the Panthers for Gudbranson and a swap of 1st round picks moving Edmonton up to 11th and the Cats down to 16thish.
    The trade would solve the Panthers scoring woes and still give the Cats a solid player at 16.
    The Oil would get a right shot young Dman and a shot at Rantanen or Meier. Both of which are close to NHL ready.

    Trading real players on good contracts (a first line right wing, and a former #1 overall poised to go supernova) for a 3rd pairing defensemen and magic beans?

  98. Woodguy says:

    rickithebear:
    CHI have Toews, Kane, Hossa for 26.23M for the next 3 yr.
    PIT has Malkin, Crosby, Hornquist, Kunitz for 26.3M for te next 2 years.
    EDM has Hall, RNH, Eberle, Pouliot, Mcdavid for 25.775 for the next 3 Years.

    Chirelli better not fuck this up!

    Great post.

    Brings it into focus in a hurry.

    Two windows:

    1) AHJ ELC
    2) AHJ 2nd 8 year long contract

    You can win in both, but it takes a slightly different approach in each.

  99. Gally says:

    maudite:
    WE debate trading Drai or Yak + for Jones but somehow won’t dare consider Nurse full time NHL because of being 3 draft positions later (and just dominating on every stage available this year).

    ????

    Jones was drafted fourth, but leading into the draft many had him pencilled in as the first overall. It was a surprise he fell to fourth, and then he stepped into the NHL right away, on a team that’s ostensibly deep on D. Big difference. Long term, Nurse may well turn out to be the better player. At this moment of time, he’s not.

  100. Gerta Rauss says:

    How would we rate Erik Gudbranson’s skating..?…average..?good..?very good..?

  101. Woodguy says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    It appears that Doug Armstrong in St Louis has been speaking with Flyers GM Ron Hextall about finding NHL goaltending.

    Armstong is a very good GM and tied with Yz for best drafting GMs at the top of the NHL.

    The way he handles their goalies makes me think he takes advice from a drunken Teddy Green thought. Crazy.

    Also,

    I really hope Chia spends all of 35 seconds contemplating Hitckcock before saying “nope”

    When Hitch won the Cup the top 20 scorers in the league were:

    Jaromir Jagr
    Teemu Selanne
    Paul Kariya
    Peter Forsberg
    Joe Sakic
    Alexei Yashin
    Theo Fleury
    Eric Lindros
    John LeClair
    Pavol Demitra
    Martin Straka
    Mats Sundin
    Mike Modano
    Jason Allison
    Tony Amonte
    Luc Robitaille
    Steve Yzerman
    Rod Brind’Amour
    Steve Thomas
    Petr Sykora

    He’s dined out on his 1 cup win for 15 years.

    Not here.

    Please.

  102. PDL says:

    What is the thesis that leads to Nashville agreeing to trade Jones other than an over pay?

  103. Gerta Rauss says:

    PDL:
    What is the thesis that leads to Nashville agreeing to trade Jones other than an over pay?

    The only thing I can think of is the growing list of failure to advance in the playoffs, and the (apparent) need for more scoring up front. I can’t say for sure if that leads to them trading Seth Jones, however.

  104. Woodguy says:

    PumperNicholl @PumperNicholl · 49m 49 minutes ago
    Playoff games won since the 2005 Lockout:

    Edmonton Oilers – 15
    St. Louis Blues – 10

  105. Gerta Rauss says:

    Woodguy: The way he handles their goalies makes me think he takes advice from a drunken Teddy Green thought. Crazy

    I can’t/won’t criticize St Louis too harshly, they’ve had tremendous success as of late, and are one of the elite teams in the NHL.

    Those first 2 goals that Allen let in today were killers though, just franchise killers.

  106. marty62 says:

    Woodguy: Armstong is a very good GM and tied with Yz for best drafting GMs at the top of the NHL.

    The way he handles their goalies makes me think he takes advice from a drunken Teddy Green thought.Crazy.

    Also,

    I really hope Chia spends all of 35 seconds contemplating Hitckcock before saying “nope”

    When Hitch won the Cup the top 20 scorers in the league were:

    Jaromir Jagr
    Teemu Selanne
    Paul Kariya
    Peter Forsberg
    Joe Sakic
    Alexei Yashin
    Theo Fleury
    Eric Lindros
    John LeClair
    Pavol Demitra
    Martin Straka
    Mats Sundin
    Mike Modano
    Jason Allison
    Tony Amonte
    Luc Robitaille
    Steve Yzerman
    Rod Brind’Amour
    Steve Thomas
    Petr Sykora

    He’s dined out on his 1 cup win for 15 years.

    Not here.

    Please.

    agreed ironic that Hitch gets beat out by a team that plays the trap better than his team

  107. Woodguy says:

    godot10: It is easy to be anonymous in a city that has new shiny toys like McDavid, Nugent-Hopkin, Klefbom, Nurse, Hall, Eberle, and Yakupov.

    Who is going to care about Phaneuf?

    All Phaneuf has to do is play hockey.And it will be easier here because Fayne will take the hardest minutes, meaning Phaneuf can be played more to his strengths.Toronto played him to his weaknesses.

    Phaneuf and they hold $1.5MM so he’s at $5.5MM straight up for Jultz.

    Deal.

  108. Numenius says:

    godot10: This is an easy question. McLellan.Hitchcock would be a horrible coach for a young team.He also doesn’t like creativity.He coaches systems, and stifles improvisation.Hitchcock is good for a veteran team with limited high end talent.

    Quennevelle and McLellan with let the talent play and be creative.

    When Chicago gets in real trouble, Quenneville just sends Kane over the boards with Toews and Keith and says sick’em.Hitchcock loses in the playoffs because he doesn’t coach that way.He doesn’t know where the overdrive and afterburners on his teams are.

    spoiler:
    If Hitchcock is the next coach of the Oilers, I stop watching hockey on the spot. Call me when he’s gone.

    Absolutely agree. He’d be a horrible fit for the young Oil.

  109. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Gudbranson’s skating is good.
    He’s also 6’5″, and mean.
    He’d be a perfect partner for one of Marincin or Klefbom.

  110. PDL says:

    Hitchcock is not the right coach for the Oilers.

  111. marty62 says:

    Woodguy:
    PumperNicholl @PumperNicholl·49m 49 minutes ago
    Playoff games won since the 2005 Lockout:

    Edmonton Oilers – 15
    St. Louis Blues – 10

    wow thats a freaky stat although thats all in one playoff season for us then 9 years of misery

  112. marty62 says:

    Woodguy: Phaneuf and they hold $1.5MM so he’s at $5.5MM straight up for Jultz.

    Deal.

    no no no no more God damn ex Flame cast offs…. fuk that

  113. Woodguy says:

    GCW_69: If they want to move Gudbranson,the Oilers should be interested if the price isn’t outrageous.

    No.

    They need their “development spots” for Klef, Nurse and Marinicn, all of whom have shown much more in the NHL than Gubranson.

    I own 3 (was 4) Panthers in my keeper league and keep close tabs on them.

    He hasn’t been able to figure it out at the NHL level yet.

    He might. He has lots of talent, but the Oilers are not in “might” mode.

    They are in “Actual NHL players with a history of doing well at their spot in the roster” mode.

  114. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox:
    Looks like Ken Hitchcock will be available soon.

    So are a lot of 1998 Chevy Cavaliers.

  115. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Yakupov for Gudbranson would be interesting.

    Sticking a flaming stick into your eye is pretty interesting too.

  116. marty62 says:

    Woodguy: Sticking a flaming stick into your eye is pretty interesting too.

    hahaha Agreed!

  117. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Yeah, I would agree.

    Gudbranson is already playing bottom pairing minutes in Florida and, if the Panthers brought in Seabrook, they might find Gudbranson too expensive for that role going forward

    They have Petrovic and highly rated Ian MacCoshen and Michael Matheson warming up in the bull pen.

    Gudbranson has one year left at a $2.5M cap hit.

    Lots of options for Tallon.

    Agreed on the good young D coming for FLA. Nice talents coming, especially Petrovic.

    Will pass Gubranson like a house on the side of the road.

    Doesn’t mean EDM should pick him up though.

  118. godot10 says:

    #JustSayDion

    #JustSayNoah turned out well! -).

  119. Numenius says:

    I had St. Louis winning the cup. Seems I was wrong.

  120. Rondo says:

    Oilers Traded Magnus Paajarvi, 2014 second round pick (#33-Ivan Barbashev), 2015 fourth round pick (?-?) to Blues for David Perron, 2015 third round pick (?-?

  121. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox,

    I think he would be a very good bet as a potential #2-#3 defenseman and…he’s a righty.

    There is nothing in Gubranson’s game that suggests he can become a 2/3 other than his draft position and your brother Tallon went waaaaaay off the board to take him there.

    Passing over players like your favorites Johansen, Skinner, Schwartz, Tarasenko etc. to take a Dman with a whopping 16.8% IPP in his draft year (note: very good starts at 20) 3rd over all was just so Tallon.

    Was shades of other Tallon notables such as:

    Barker 3rd in 2004
    Skille 7th in 2005
    Beech 11th in 2008

  122. kooler says:

    Rondo,

    Would you try and get Magnus back? Could
    he skate with Mcdavid?

  123. Woodguy says:

    LadiesloveSmid: Looks like he plays some fairly tough minutes and does well in them when he’s no paired with Dylan Olsen. 51.7% CF with Willie Mitchell, who takes the toughest assignments in Florida

    That’s an interesting idea Edmonton should explore

    He only played there when Kulikov couldn’t.

    They’re not going to break up Campbell-Ekblad.

    He was the best available when Kulikov couldn’t, but that’s not an endorsement.

  124. Gerta Rauss says:

    Rondo:
    Oilers Traded Magnus Paajarvi, 2014 second round pick (#33-Ivan Barbashev), 2015 fourth round pick (?-?) to Blues for David Perron, 2015 third round pick (?-?

    The Oilers 4th round pick going to STL appears to be 94. I’m not sure where the STL 3rd pick coming our way is going to wind up, it should be in the mid 80’s

  125. Unicorns says:

    maudite,

    I think you’re right. There is too much talent on LD to tie a spot up there with a guy those 3 will pass in a year. Ference 2.0. Maybe 2 quality right D to support the youth. Michalek would be good. He’s shy on offense but could support one of the young guys who can do that.

    The question comes down to Scultz v. Nurse. Scultz needs to be sheltered and he needs the right type of vet ideally. You could play Nurse with Fayne 2 P and Marincin with Scultz 3 P but it’s risky in the short term. It seems hard to play them both.

    There could be some real fire sales this summer. Going through the Hawks numbers they looked totally hooped being 2M over cap with only 15 contracts. Bowman should move Sharp and Hossa to floor teams because of age. That might be enough.

  126. Woodguy says:

    speeds: If there’s a team willing to trade down, my guess is it would be a team picking 10-12, just going from memory on the relative cost to trade up.San Jose at 9 has traded down in the past, however not sure they would do it at 9 for the 33rd.

    I was referring to Provorov specifically and he won’t be there at 10-12

    If he is there then ya, jump all over it, but I doubt he’s there.

    Who knows, Dmen tend to slide on draft day.

  127. Woodguy says:

    godot10,

    Hitchcock is good for a veteran team with limited high end talent.

    I’m not even sure he’s that.

  128. Woodguy says:

    misfit: I can definitely appreciate that Yakupov doesn’t have the trade value a #1OV pick should 3 years out, but Gudbranson’s stock should have dropped even moreso considering he’s solidly a 3rd pairing defenseman at this point.And with nearly 300 games played already, how much further development do you expect to see from him going forward?I like Yak’s chances of being a 1st line winger much more than Gudbranson’s chances of being even a 2nd pairing defenseman.And I’m not even a big Yakupov believer.

    This is the correct answer.

  129. Rondo says:

    Woodguy,

    I could see Oilers taking Jakub Zboril at #16

  130. Unicorns says:

    The Oilers need to ice 6 D that can skate and pass to do this thing right. The difference should be in offence not hockey skills for cap reasons, or rookies doing well on ELC’s and people being moved to make the numbers work going forward. No more thugs and/or boat anchors or pylons please.

  131. Woodguy says:

    Rondo:
    Woodguy,

    I could see Oilers taking Jakub Zboril at #16

    Chia is going to want to turn north ASAP.

    That pick is as good as gone.

    As well it should be.

  132. Eastern Oil says:

    And McDavid with the beauty short handed Forsberg breakaway.

    Wow…

  133. marty62 says:

    McJesus with a short handed breakaway beauty…..

  134. marty62 says:

    Eastern Oil:
    And McDavid with the beauty short handed Forsberg breakaway.

    Wow…

    I can get used to the idea of watchin that kid play for a very long time… just wow

  135. Ryan says:

    Woodguy:
    Dashingsilverfox,

    I think he would be a very good bet as a potential #2-#3 defenseman and…he’s a righty.

    There is nothing in Gubranson’s game that suggests he can become a 2/3 other than his draft position and your brother Tallon went waaaaaay off the board to take him there.

    Passing over players like your favorites Johansen, Skinner,Schwartz, Tarasenko etc. to take a Dman with a whopping 16.8% IPP in his draft year (note: very good starts at 20) 3rd over all was just so Tallon.

    Was shades of other Tallon notables such as:

    Barker 3rd in 2004
    Skille 7th in 2005
    Beech 11th in 2008

    I don’t follow FLA, but the Vollman has Gudbranson playing top left quadrant last season. He was a shade under 50% cf despite qoc and shitty zone starts. Tall, big, known for having a good slapper…

    Campbell and Ekblad got the zone starts and soft comp.

    If Tallon offered Gudbranson for Yakupov, I don’t know that I would say, ‘no.’ Then again, I am not a big fan of Yak’s game.

    WG, I am curious what kind of trade value you think Yakupov has?

  136. Eastern Oil says:

    marty62: I can get used to the idea of watchin that kid play for a very long time…just wow

    He separated from the pack in an instant, just exploded. Sometimes you see that move as an afterthought but he had 2 moves before it. Special talent.

    Oddly enough, that was Erie’s 2nd shot and it’s 2-0!

  137. Eastern Oil says:

    And the ref warns the benches to keep the chatter down between the benches. Commentators comment that Nurse seems to e at the head of that effort…

    I really think I am going to like this guy.

  138. Numenius says:

    striker: If the Habs win in round 2 (aka make the final 4), they are kicked down to the last 4 picks in the draft order in every round.

    Habs win in round 2 = conditional 5th converted to a 3rd rounder BUT 2nd round pick knocked down to the last 4 picks in the 2nd round.

    Cheer for the Habs in Round 1, Cheer against the Habs in round 2.

    Winning the 2nd round doesn’t lower the Habs pick number enough to make it a bad scenario.

    They won their division with more points than anyone except the Rangers and now they’ve won their first round series. If I understand correctly, that means their pick is already 26th overall if the Rangers win the second round (it’s 25th if the Rangers lose). So even if they win the cup, the pick only moves 4 spots down to 30th, meaning that their 2nd rounder moves from 56th to 60th.

    That’s not enough difference to offset getting a 3rd (90th overall at worst (winning cup)) rather than a 4th (104th overall (losing in 2nd round and Rangers win)). The latter pick gains 14 spots and earlier pick only loses 4 spots (5 at worst).

    So it’s much better for the Oil for the Habs to win the 2nd round than lose it. It’s even better if they then lose the 3rd round.

    Go Habs (until the 3rd round)!

    Edit: Darn. It’s even more beneficial than I thought. I should have said: “…rather than a 4th (116th overall (losing in the 2nd round and Rangers win)). The latter pick gains 26 spots and the earlier pick only loses 4 spots (5 at worst).”

  139. marty62 says:

    Eastern Oil: He separated from the pack in an instant, just exploded.Sometimes you see that move as an afterthought but he had 2 moves before it.Special talent.

    Oddly enough, that was Erie’s 2nd shot and it’s 2-0!

    yeah SSM is carrying the play but cant get the shots through Richie hit a post right before Connor scored on the breakaway

  140. marty62 says:

    Eastern Oil:
    And the ref warns the benches to keep the chatter down between the benches.Commentators comment that Nurse seems to e at the head of that effort…

    I really think I am going to like this guy.

    yeah he seems to play angry. and skates frikkin miles……

  141. godot10 says:

    I want Carey Price to win a Stanley Cup, and get it out of the way now, before the Oilers start competing for it.

    He’s Canada’s goalie, so I want him to check off the items on the bucket list.

    P.S. And might as well do it while Petry is there!

  142. marty62 says:

    godot10:
    I want Carey Price to win a Stanley Cup, and get it out of the way now, before the Oilers start competing for it.

    He’s Canada’s goalie, so I want him to check off the items on the bucket list.

    I like Carey Price but as an old Bruins fan…… Fuk the filthy Habs……….

  143. Eastern Oil says:

    marty62: yeahhe seems to play angry. and skates frikkin miles……

    I was just saying that on Twitter. 3 strides and he’s up to speed and with his stride he’s carried himself clear into the neutral zone.

  144. maudite says:

    Gally,

    Not arguing that simply projecting that starting Nurse as the bottom pairing LD in our lineup, after letting him ripen in juniors for two additional seasons more than Jones, seems a pretty reasonable course.

  145. marty62 says:

    Eastern Oil: I was just saying that on Twitter. 3 strides and he’s up to speed and with his stride he’s carried himself clear into the neutral zone.

    I hope he can keep some of that speed as he fills out that huge frame.

  146. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Woodguy: Bo Horvat will be the only bright light for the Canucks for a long time…..

    I like Tanev too…..

    Virtanen, Shinkaruk, McCann and Corrado all say hi.

  147. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Woodguy: No.

    They need their “development spots” for Klef, Nurse and Marinicn, all of whom have shown much more in the NHL than Gubranson.

    I own 3 (was 4) Panthers in my keeper league and keep close tabs on them.

    He hasn’t been able to figure it out at the NHL level yet.

    He might.He has lots of talent, but the Oilers are not in “might” mode.

    They are in “Actual NHL players with a history of doing well at their spot in the roster” mode.

    I see you’re hitting the whisky again.

    Klefbom, Marincin and Nurse are the definition of “might mode”.

  148. Numenius says:

    Dashingsilverfox: I see you’re hitting the whisky again.

    Klefbom, Marincin and Nurse are the definition of “might mode”.

    You’re misunderstanding what he’s saying. He agrees with you. His point was that since those 3 are in “might mode”, they need to get someone who’s not in might mode.

  149. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Numenius: You’re misunderstanding what he’s saying. He agrees with you. His point was that since those 3 are in “might mode”, they need to get someone who’s not in might mode.

    You missed where he said they need development spots for Klefbom, Marincin and Nurse.

    Gudbranson is far less a “might” than any of them and I’d bet a “Woodguy” that Gudbranson has a better career than Marincin.

  150. Numenius says:

    Dashingsilverfox: You missed where he said they need development spots for Klefbom, Marincin and Nurse.

    Gudbranson is far less a “might” than any of them and I’d bet a “Woodguy” that Gudbranson has a better career than Marincin.

    No, you missed that. That’s the part that shows he was acknowledging that Klef, Nurse, and Marincin are in might mode.

    Your post treated him as if he was denying that.

    If you meant to argue that Gudbranson will have a better career than Marincin in that post and that he should take his spot, you should have made that clear. We can’t read your mind.

  151. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Virtanen, Shinkaruk, McCann and Corrado all say hi.

    You can say hi from the bottom of a roster.

  152. Woodguy says:

    Ryan: I don’t follow FLA, but the Vollman has Gudbranson playing top left quadrant last season. He was a shade under 50% cf despite qoc and shitty zone starts. Tall, big, known for having a good slapper…
    Campbell and Ekblad got the zone starts and soft comp.
    If Tallon offered Gudbranson for Yakupov, I don’t know that I would say, ‘no.’ Then again, I am not a big fan of Yak’s game.
    WG, I am curious what kind of trade value you think Yakupov has?

    Oilers RW depth chart is:

    Eberle
    Yakupov
    Wind

    Its not a area of strength, so dealing from it is a bad, bad idea.

    Gubranson is decent, but no screaming hell, certainly not worth the kid who broke Stamkos’ goal record and has been lost since without a vet C.

    I’m not sure what Yak’s trade value, but its not a bottom of the depth chart RHD.

    Sure Gubranson *might* turn into something, but *mights* don’t cut it when dealing a first over all pick who got 19pts in his last 28 games.

    Not even close.

  153. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox: You missed where he said they need development spots for Klefbom, Marincin and Nurse.

    Gudbranson is far less a “might” than any of them and I’d bet a “Woodguy” that Gudbranson has a better career than Marincin.

    One day Gubranson *might* play the same toughness of minutes as Klef and Marincin have and Nurse will.

    Might.

    I doubt it though.

    Maybe when Kulikov gets hurt again.

    Unless the next guy eats his lunch, which is probable.

  154. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox: I see you’re hitting the whisky again.

    Klefbom, Marincin and Nurse are the definition of “might mode”.

    Stone cold sober.

    Gubranson is the 3rd overall pick from 2010 (same draft as Marincin)

    If he were an Oiler you’d call him Wellwood or whatever you call failed Dmen.

    5 years later and you’re talking *mights* with him.

    You’re so cute!

  155. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Virtanen, Shinkaruk, McCann and Corrado all say hi.

    If Corrado hits 100 NHL goals I’ll send you a “woodguy”

    Really?

    You mentioned Corrado as a reason to be excited about the Dys future??

    Hahahhahahahahahaha!

    Sucks to be a Dys fan worse than I thought.

  156. VanOil says:

    Looking forward to the third period. McDavid and Nurse are putting on quite a show.

  157. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    Dashingsilverfox: I see you’re hitting the whisky again.

    Klefbom, Marincin and Nurse are the definition of “might mode”.

    … DSF? Is that you?

    Wow, some things really never change.

  158. Ryan says:

    Woodguy: Oilers RW depth chart is:

    Eberle
    Yakupov
    Wind

    Its not a area of strength, so dealing from it is a bad, bad idea.

    Gubranson is decent, but no screaming hell, certainly not worth the kid who broke Stamkos’ goal record and has been lost since without a vet C.

    I’m not sure what Yak’s trade value, but its not a bottom of the depth chart RHD.

    Sure Gubranson *might* turn into something, but *mights* don’t cut it when dealing a first over all pick who got 19pts in his last 28 games.

    Not even close.

    Yakupov put up a 1.19 5v5/60 last season. That’s barely alive.

    He’s a PGA champion two years in a row, a possession black hole, and he gets good zone starts/soft comp.

    I think if Chia makes a play on a useful NHL player and the first word out of his mouth is Yakupov, all he will hear is laughter followed by the phone going dead.

  159. speeds says:

    Woodguy: Chia is going to want to turn north ASAP.

    That pick is as good as gone.

    As well it should be.

    On the other hand, the pick will be 15th or 16th. Could the Oilers not use a Karlsson (15OV) or Tarasenko (16OV)?

  160. Woodguy says:

    Dashingsilverfox: You missed where he said they need development spots for Klefbom, Marincin and Nurse.

    Gudbranson is far less a “might” than any of them and I’d bet a “Woodguy” that Gudbranson has a better career than Marincin.

    Let me state this in the proper way for DSF:

    “I’ll bet that Tallon’s 3rd overall pick in the 2010 draft has a better career than Tambellini’s 46th (and 3rd by the Oilers that year)

    Nice one.

    You’ve lowered the bar so much for Tallon that I have to dig to find it.

  161. Lowetide says:

    speeds: On the other hand, the pick will be 15th or 16th.Could the Oilers not use a Karlsson (15OV) or Tarasenko (16OV)?

    If Meier falls down that far I really wonder if they move it. I understand the urge for going but that’s an insane talent.

  162. Woodguy says:

    speeds: On the other hand, the pick will be 15th or 16th.Could the Oilers not use a Karlsson (15OV) or Tarasenko (16OV)?

    Yes they could use the 15th (Peter Holland/Alex Plante) or 16th (Joel Armia/Joe Colborne)

    Or they could get an Actual NHL Dman

  163. Woodguy says:

    Ryan: Yakupov put up a 1.19 5v5/60 last season.That’s barely alive.

    He’s a PGA champion two years in a row, a possession black hole, and he gets good zone starts/soft comp.

    I think if Chia makes a play on a useful NHL player and the first word out of his mouth is Yakupov, all he will hear is laughter followed by the phone going dead.

    Hi DSF’s younger brother.

  164. GCW_69 says:

    Woodguy: No.

    They need their “development spots” for Klef, Nurse and Marinicn, all of whom have shown much more in the NHL than Gubranson.

    I own 3 (was 4) Panthers in my keeper league and keep close tabs on them.

    He hasn’t been able to figure it out at the NHL level yet.

    He might.He has lots of talent, but the Oilers are not in “might” mode.

    They are in “Actual NHL players with a history of doing well at their spot in the roster” mode.

    I don’t think they should keep a development spot for Nurse. Nurse should get a year in the AHL. That opens a spot for Gudbranson who should be a lot closer to figuring it out than Nurse.

    Gudbranson has played 245 games and if the 300 number holds true is less than a season away from the time he should put it together. Nurse is close to 300 games away.

    What I would like to see is Gudbranson and a veteran like Franson, Erfhoff or Sekera and and Schultz out. Ideally, something like

    Erfhoff/Sekera – Franson
    Klefbom – Gudbranson
    Marincin – Fayne

    No rock stars yet, but good for defence by committee without breaking the bank.

  165. Gerta Rauss says:

    Lowetide: If Meier falls down that far I really wonder if they move it. I understand the urge for going but that’s an insane talent.

    They really can’t go wrong with that pick. Let the other teams blow their brains out with their offers, and if nothing catches your eye, draft a terrific prospect.

  166. Unicorns says:

    Ryan: Yakupov put up a 1.19 5v5/60 last season.That’s barely alive.

    He’s a PGA champion two years in a row, a possession black hole, and he gets good zone starts/soft comp.

    I think if Chia makes a play on a useful NHL player and the first word out of his mouth is Yakupov, all he will hear is laughter followed by the phone going dead.

    I’d say Peachy has a very good take on what Oilers are worth elsewhere having been elsewhere a few days ago. He has a fer better chance moving guys than MacT would and probably has a better take on who wants and likes what than the Oilers ever have since CFP.

    I also doubt he’d have traded his only good puck moving RD for a 25% chance at an average player or whatever. Maybe two chances, but not one.

  167. GCW_69 says:

    Woodguy: One day Gubranson *might* play the same toughness of minutes as Klef and Marincin have and Nurse will.

    Might.

    I doubt it though.

    Maybe when Kulikov gets hurt again.

    Unless the next guy eats his lunch, which is probable.

    There were a lot of people, including Talon, not loving Kulikov when he was around the 240 game mark of his career. It’s okay for the Oilers to take some risk on a player like Gudbranson at this point in his career arc provided it’s not the only move they make and the price is reasonable.

    But, if Seabrook goes to Florida I would bet Gudbranson goes the other way so it’s probably a moo point anyway.

  168. kooler says:

    VanOil,

    Think we move Nurse up and make him McDavids left side….training camp experiment.

  169. Pouzar says:

    Wow Nurse.

  170. Woodguy says:

    Ryan: Yakupov put up a 1.19 5v5/60 last season.That’s barely alive.

    He’s a PGA champion two years in a row, a possession black hole, and he gets good zone starts/soft comp.

    I think if Chia makes a play on a useful NHL player and the first word out of his mouth is Yakupov, all he will hear is laughter followed by the phone going dead.

    You mentioned useful NHL player.

    What does that have to do with Gubranson?

    Also,

    You’re hyperbole is not good.

    At all.

  171. Woodguy says:

    GCW_69: There were a lot of people,including Talon,not loving Kulikov when he was around the 240 game mark of his career. It’s okay for the Oilers to take some risk on a player like Gudbranson at this point in his career arc provided it’s not the only move they make and the price is reasonable.

    But,if Seabrook goes to Florida I would bet Gudbranson goes the other way so it’s probably a moo point anyway.

    I understand your point, but the Oilers have those slots full.

    They need Actual NHL players now.

  172. AsiaOil says:

    Well congrats Devan Dubnyk. Pretty damn good week. Get’s a a Vezina nomination and wins his first playoff series by putting up a brick wall in G5 & G6. The other guy folded like a wet tent. Dubnyk had a couple of rough moments but bounced back strong both times. MINN loves the guy (and it’s mutual) so he’s going nowhere. If anyone says that our dumping this guy is excusable because NASH & MON looked him over as well – think again – and look who the other Vezina nominees are this year. NASH and MON are two of the best goalie programs going and they wanted to look at DD even though they already had elite starters. This year when MINN needed a goalie and both DD & Neuvirth were available – Bob Mason who is the MINN goalie coach unequivocally wanted DD. Like Petry – the Oilers treated another solid player in DD that they spent years developing like crap – and now can watch him out-perform elsewhere through the heart of his career.

    As for trading a RW – agree that our depth is bad – but the top 6 balance is a problem that needs to be addressed by another heavy player. RNH and CMD are finesse but locks, Eberle is finesse, Hall and Yak can play heavier if necessary, Pouliot is heavy and skilled. Three finesse guys (RNH, CMD, Eberle) is one too many and Eberle is the least valuable – so he is my pick to go for a dman as long as he can be replaced by a bigger skilled RW through UFA (which I believe is very possible). Sit on #16 to see who is available, and if it is not exactly who you want, then deal #16 for another dman. As for goalies. That needs some careful thought, but I probably agree with the guys who see Anderson for an affordable solution for a few years. But I don’t give up a ton for him. Miller is overpaid for an average starter and Niemi may also be overpaid this summer for similar performance, but I’d take him if under $5 million. Too many questions about the rest.

  173. Yeti says:

    striatic: godot10: 1) Purcell and Nikitin and the Pitts 1st (initially offer the 33rd pick) for Phaneuf.

    The mythical 3 for 1?

    I’m not sure Nikitin counts as a whole player. So technically it’s a 2.5 for 1.

  174. square_wheels says:

    Tyler Johnson having a helluva series, is our boy Tkachev cut from the same cloth ? Nearly forgot that inexcusable CBA gong show to kick off the season of misery.

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