WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON OUT HERE?

After nearly a decade of walking around waiting for anvils to fall on us ala Wile E. Coyote, the news these days is absolutely crazy. It seems every morsel of information involves something that lies between fantastic and impossible. And so it goes.

The news that Mike Babcock is future shopping was met with glee by Oilers fans—that in itself is a surprise unless you haven’t been paying attention to the spring of the impossible dream. Edmonton is IN the Babcock sweepstakes and the McLellan race and Todd Nelson is getting an interview too. I don’t think there’s a bad fit in the bunch, Babcock has the appeal of being No. 1 candidate so yeah, let’s see how this rolls.

The main point is this: Life as we knew it is over. Come down from the trees, the war is over and the only loud noises are the ringing in your ears from all those awful nights.

  • Ken Holland: “When we went to Grand Rapids (last weekend), spent four hours together in the car, we had a great talk. I told Mike that we’d like to re-sign him, we want him back. He would like the opportunity to explore any possibilities that are out there for him. Certainly, we are a possibility.” Source

He’s gone. The only question: Where?

This would be a very good thing for Edmonton. Their depth chart needs to be four (quality) deep and with only Ben Scrivens and Laurent Brossoit on the depth chart there’s plenty of room for more competition. For those thinking that four is too many, remember the idea isn’t just to have a No. 1, but also develop a future starter and to trade excess for value elsewhere. At one point in the early 1970’s, the Montreal Canadiens had Rogie Vachon, Phil Myre, Ken Dryden, Chico Resch and others under their control. Too many goalies doesn’t exist.

hamilton ferguson 141522 Curtis Hamilton scored a huge OT goal last night deep into the lid-lifter against the Utica Comets. The teams get together again tonight and the Barons have a chance to take a big lead early in the series. I’ll update the scores as they come in and I’m sure several of you are watching online and will update (it’s appreciated). Same lineup as last night, so no Darnell Nurse.

Also in action tonight, Connor McDavid. I’ll update, suspect there will be plenty of video (but no game) as well. Leon and Kelowna play Brandon too, so it should be a fun night for hockey fans.

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  1. Younger Oil says:

    Very surprised that they’re not using Nurse considering they played 120 minutes last night. Could use some fresh legs, especially with Nurse’s speed. But keeping the winning lineup is a common tactic I suppose.

    And I take the message from the graphic is that McDavid is on the same level as a 20 year old Sugartits, and we should expect a similar development path? 😀

  2. striatic says:

    Wait .. is that Rob Schremp’s shine box post season?

    Connor’s in good company!

  3. Ducey says:

    Not exactly Murderers Row in front of McD in the playoff record books

    As O’Connor was looking for a team with a good goalie coach, doesn’t sound like he is coming here…

  4. Lowetide says:

    The key item on the McDavid graphic? GP.

  5. striatic says:

    Ducey: Not exactly Murderers Row in front of McD in the playoff record books

    It’s all about age.

  6. Pouzar says:

    Sidebar:
    If we are going to have cheerleaders can we please import the Utica girls….sweet baby jezzuz

  7. till_horcoff_is_coach says:

    I know Babcock is the belle of the ball but I think McLellan is an ideal fit. I’ve always appreciated the set plays that SJ runs throughout a game to gain little edges all over the ice. I would not complain even once though if the team “settles” with Babcock… what a summer.

  8. Pouzar says:

    Keepin up wit da Joness….1-0 OKC

  9. Pouzar says:

    Connor goes straight to net and scores on Kellen’s rebound

  10. Lowetide says:

    Connor Jones (Kellen Jones) 1-0.

  11. Ducey says:

    Younger Oil:
    Very surprised that they’re not using Nurse considering they played 120 minutes last night. Could use some fresh legs, especially with Nurse’s speed. But keeping the winning lineup is a common tactic I suppose.

    And I take the message from the graphic is that McDavid is on the same level as a 20 year old Sugartits, and we should expect a similar development path?

    I am not sure its a big surprise that Nurse is sitting out.

    He wouldn’t be familiar with any system they are playing and you go with the guys that go you there.

    The guys playing – Marincin, Davidson, Hunt, Oesterle, Simpson, Musil have been grinding it out all season. All are prospects (except for Hunt who is their best, if not one of their best, D). They need to develop too.

  12. Pouzar says:

    FYI

    Same lineup for OKC tonight.

  13. coolwasabi says:

    I want McLellan.

    Babcock brings too much fanfare. McLellan may be just as good without the added pressure. There will already be lots of judging eyes on the Oilers/McDavid next year.

  14. hunter1909 says:

    RE Mike Babcock, prepared to listen to his wife’s opinion as the final word:

    1 – I never knew Mike wants to have his children grow up in a Western Canada atmosphere.

    2 – Mike’s children will make it very clear to Mom that they need to meet Connor McDavid.

    3 – Mom smiles.

    4 – Oiler fans fly up toward the sky, because Katz’s drugs have kept us from knowing the truth = it’s Fahrenheit 451, and we’re all going to die.

  15. Vince says:

    Nice Lombardi drop, they played that all the time on the old Nick and Artie Direct TV show

  16. Pouzar says:

    Ducey: I am not sure its a big surprise that Nurse is sitting out.

    He wouldn’t be familiar with any system they are playing and you go with the guys that go you there.

    The guys playing – Marincin, Davidson, Hunt, Oesterle, Simpson, Musil have been grinding it out all season.All are prospects (except for Hunt who is their best, if not one of their best, D).They need to develop too.

    Agreed

  17. hunter1909 says:

    coolwasabi:
    I want McLellan.

    Babcock brings too much fanfare. McLellan may be just as good without the added pressure. There will already be lots of judging eyes on the Oilers/McDavid next year.

    Fanfare helps dim the Lowe/MacT “legacy” quicker; so I’m all for it.

    Fantastic to see the other dude coaching Taylor Hall to instant international warp speed. He’s probably just as good in most ways.

    Either way, it’s an upgrade from MacT + Kevin Lord of the Rings Lowe

  18. Bag of Pucks says:

    Given O’Connor’s shortlist, I like our odds.

    NYR and OTT are deep at G and the VAN media makes them a goalie graveyard.

    Of course all of that assumes he’s making a hockey decision only. If he’s making a life decision:
    NY 100x>EDM?

  19. book¡je says:

    And all of you questioned Lowe’s moves starting with the Pronger trade. I submit that there is no possible decision-making pathway that could have led to the Oilers having as optimistic of a future from this day forward than that which Kevin Lowe took. The man is a hockey genius beyond our capacity to understand.

  20. hunter1909 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Given O’Connor’s shortlist, I like our odds.

    NYR and OTT are deep at G and the VAN media makes them a goalie graveyard.

    Of course all of that assumes he’s making a hockey decision only. If he’s making a life decision:
    NY 100x>EDM?

    NY isn’t anywhere near 100x better than Edmonton to a young hockey player. Teenager’s need the same things universally, although an NHLer is really going to get it, lol.

  21. striatic says:

    coolwasabi: McLellan may be just as good without the added pressure.

    McLellan adds pressure.

    With Babcock the resume is well known and unassailable. Never missed the playoffs with the Wings. Olympic Gold, Stanley Cup, WHC Gold. If the team doesn’t make the playoffs next year, whatever he says about it will be excepted as truth. No big deal. He brings with him a lot of slack.

    With McLellan if they don’t make the playoffs, the narrative will quickly be “He couldn’t take the Sharks the the playoffs, what were the Oilers expecting? Another bad hire.”

    I’m not adverse to McLellan but I think Babcock’s history will relieve more pressure than it creates.

  22. Bruce McCurdy says:

    book¡je:
    And all of you questioned Lowe’s moves starting with the Pronger trade. I submit that there is no possible decision-making pathway that could have led to the Oilers having as optimistic of a future from this day forward than that which Kevin Lowe took. The man is a hockey genius beyond our capacity to understand.

    WHICH Pronger trade?

  23. hunter1909 says:

    striatic: I’m not adverse to McLellan but I think Babcock’s history will relieve more pressure than it creates.

    If Babcock’s children get to choose where they live, Connor McDavid’s name comes up every time. Mike might have to take his wife’s opinion into account, meanwhile Mrs Babcock figures it’s not worth the trouble to argue with the children on this one, and tells Mike(and Oiler fans) the good news.

  24. Pouzar says:

    striatic: McLellan adds pressure.

    With Babcock the resume is well known and unassailable. Never missed the playoffs with the Wings. Olympic Gold, Stanley Cup, WHC Gold. If the team doesn’t make the playoffs next year, whatever he says about it will be excepted as truth. No big deal. He brings with him a lot of slack.

    With McLellan if they don’t make the playoffs, the narrative will quickly be “He couldn’t take the Sharks the the playoffs, what were the Oilers expecting? Another bad hire.”

    I’m not adverse to McLellan but I think Babcock’s history will relieve more pressure than it creates.

    Great points.

  25. striatic says:

    Another plus for Babcock .. has experience coaching teams comprised entirely of left shot Defensemen.

    Which the Oilers are tracking to become, apparently.

  26. blainer says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Given O’Connor’s shortlist, I like our odds.

    NYR and OTT are deep at G and the VAN media makes them a goalie graveyard.

    Of course all of that assumes he’s making a hockey decision only. If he’s making a life decision:
    NY 100x>EDM?

    Yup.. The big factor if I were him… would I rather have Hall and CMD coming hard at me.. or.. would I prefer to watch them shoot at the opposing Goalie…

  27. Klima's_Bucket says:

    striatic:
    Another plus for Babcock .. has experience coaching teams comprised entirely of left shot Defensemen.

    Which the Oilers are tracking to become, apparently.

    Another plus for Babcock…he’s from Saskatchewan!
    We got McDavid!!!!!!
    WhooooooooooooooooootttTTT …WHOOOOOTTTTTTT!!!!

  28. Bag of Pucks says:

    @Bruce & Blainer from the previous thread.

    You can certainly make a case for the Perron trade now, particularly based on where the pick landed.

    My main criticism of MacT is how he handled that asset in the short time he was here. Verbal from Perron immediately after acquisition through to start of recent season past was overwhelmingly positive. He was universally lauded here as a good leader and great ad, aside from a couple posters that pushed for selling high on hIm then given pending UFA status.

    Within 3 months, he’s the one supposed cancer after MacT eyeballs everyone from the bench? First off, how can Perron be the lone cancer when the team pitched its tent in the cellar long before he arrived? And if he was the one cancer, what does that say about the GM who traded for him?

    They buried their 2nd leading goal scorer from the previous season on the 3rd line? Wtf does that? Answer: the same guy who routinely threw Hemsky under the bus in the press.

    Or maybe the simplest explanation is a fumbling GM and a dictatorial coach turned a happy employee into a miserable one in 3 months? And then he had the audacity to question their methods? The minute he did he became immediate trade bait.

    Players can’t get out of here fast enough. Management has to own that. You can’t expect players to exhibit positivity in perpetuity when all they see in the mgmt ranks is nepotism, incompetence and arrogance. Especially if the team is playing pathetically night in and night out.

    We’ll know we’ve turned a corner here when a player willingly re-ups without the threat of thumb screws.

  29. Bag of Pucks says:

    hunter1909: NY isn’t anywhere near 100x better than Edmonton to a young hockey player. Teenager’s need the same things universally, although an NHLer is really going to get it, lol.

    Agreed, and I’m thinking that the odds of doing that with an Eastern European supermodel are exponentially better in NY than here?

    Look at the Octane Girls. A handful of those girls look like ten miles of bad road!

  30. haters says:

    Ok, anyone comment on the systems both coaches bring ? They coached together so I’m sure it’s fairly similar. How about philosophy ? Babcock is a work ethic style coach . If he could he would get everyone including skill guys to play like Draper , or so I’ve read. The knock on him and his teams in the post season is he likes the guys to play a focused passionless game, meaning that he doesn’t want his players to get to high or low depending on what happens in games ei.. Cheap shots, bad calls ect..
    So with that you don’t see players on the Wings elevate their game like a lot of other teams do come playoff time. That’s what uv been able to dig up anyway.

    My honest opinion is to stick with Nelson for a year and see what arguably the best devolpmental coach available can do for our young team. I’ve never seen a turn around in attitude like I saw this year when Nelson took over. The results were much better as well with half an AHL team playing spoilers to a lot of teams trying to make the show.

    Why is it the oiler way to reward success and results with a kick in the pants ?
    Dream come true for me is Nelson stays on with Associate coach role and they hire McLellan. IMO

  31. BrazilianOil says:

    Could somebody with more knowledge than me compare the styles and strategies that Babcock and Mclellan uses?

  32. haters says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Totally agree

  33. blainer says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    @Bruce & Blainer from the previous thread.

    You can certainly make a case for the Perron trade now, particularly based on where the pick landed.

    My main criticism of MacT is how he handled that asset in the short time he was here. Verbal from Perron immediately after acquisition through to start of recent season past was overwhelmingly positive. He was universally lauded here as a good leader and great ad, aside from a couple posters that pushed for selling high on hIm then given pending UFA status.

    Within 3 months, he’s the one supposed cancer after MacT eyeballs everyone from the bench? First off, how can Perron be the lone cancer when the team pitched its tent in the cellar long before he arrived? And if he was the one cancer, what does that say about the GM who traded for him?

    They buried their 2nd leading goal scorer from the previous season on the 3rd line? Wtf does that? Answer: the same guy who routinely threw Hemsky under the bus in the press.

    Or maybe the simplest explanation is a fumbling GM and a dictatorial coach turned a happy employee into a miserable one in 3 months? And then he had the audacity to question their methods? The minute he did he became immediate trade bait.

    Players can’t get out of here fast enough. Managementhas to own that. You can’t expect players to exhibit positivity in perpetuity when all they see in the mgmt ranks is nepotism, incompetence and arrogance. Especially if the team is playing pathetically night in and night out.

    We’ll know we’ve turned a corner here when a player willingly re-ups without the threat of thumb screws.

    Ya I think there was probably a lot a cancerous players in the room this year. Losing does that. Agreed Perron came with a good attitude and wants to win.. he’s a competitive guy.. Suspect he asked out of that gross environment.. I was happy with the trade and just a major bonus it ended up at 16… That pick is like a top seven pick this year.. It all worked out as we ended up getting CMD AND as a bonus new management..

  34. Ryan says:

    striatic:
    Another plus for Babcock .. has experience coaching teams comprised entirely of left shot Defensemen.

    Which the Oilers are tracking to become, apparently.

    Welcome to the wiserhood.

  35. Ryan says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    C’mon man. Give credit where credit’s due.

    You mean myself and Vanoil.

    #sellhigh

  36. blainer says:

    Can you imagine if the oilers get goaltending next year like Backman is giving them now!!

  37. spoiler says:

    I’m pretty sure an Oiler fan put together this Wile E. compilation out of tribute to the Braintrust:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd755bbc8uw

  38. blainer says:

    Hey Pouzar.. Just a question about the jets. What do you think of Paul Postma as a depth guy who could also possibly surprise you if he got a chance to put it all together. He stood out big time on the ice caps and was a fan favorite… He is a big guy who is a RT shot D with a heavy shot and put up good numbers in the A.. ya know something that might come in handy.. He is stuck behind some good players in the peg..

  39. godot10 says:

    As long as Todd Nelson is an NHL head coach somewhere next year AND the Oilers coach is one of Nelson, McLellan, or Babcock, I will be content.

  40. Woodguy says:

    Bruce McCurdy: WHICH Pronger trade?

    Bruce with the high hard heat!!

  41. Woodguy says:

    hunter1909: If Babcock’s children get to choose where they live, Connor McDavid’s name comes up every time. Mike might have to take his wife’s opinion into account, meanwhile Mrs Babcock figures it’s not worth the trouble to argue with the children on this one, and tells Mike(and Oiler fans) the good news.

    Babcock’s kids are all in university/college.

  42. oliveoilers says:

    blainer: Yup.. The big factor if I were him… would I rather have Hall and CMD coming hard at me.. or.. would I prefer to watch them shoot at the opposing Goalie…

    As Archer would say: “Jesus, Phrasing! Is this not a thing anymore?”

  43. Pouzar says:

    blainer:
    Hey Pouzar.. Just a question about the jets. What do you think of Paul Postma as a depth guy who could also possibly surprise you if he got a chance to put it all together. He stood out big time on the ice caps and was a fan favorite… He is a big guy who is a RT shot D with a heavy shot and put up good numbers in the A.. ya know something that might come in handy.. He is stuck behind some good players in the peg..

    Postma has done a nice job in Winnipeg in a sheltered role and would be a nice bottom pairing RH d-man on a good team. Chiarot is the guy I like. He was a savior in Winnipeg when they had all those injuries and he did well playing the toughs. But is he better than the many Left Hand shot d-men we already have? Not so sure but he had a very nice first NHL season. They love both guys in Winnipeg.

  44. Pouzar says:

    What a rush by McJesus. 2-1 Oshawa

  45. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Joel Ward an option this summer?
    Could play on lines 1-4.

  46. blainer says:

    Pouzar: Postma has done a nice job in Winnipeg in a sheltered role and would be a nice bottom pairing RH d-man on a good team. Chiarot is the guy I like. He was a savior in Winnipeg when they had all those injuries and he did well playing the toughs. But is he better than the many Left Hand shot d-men we already have? Not so sure but he had a very nice first NHL season. They love both guys in Winnipeg.

    Interesting .. thanks for that… maybe we should look harder at him.. Those RT shot D’s are hard to find..

  47. blainer says:

    Come on OKC… I cannot go through another quad overtime…

  48. Bruce McCurdy says:

    striatic:
    Another plus for Babcock .. has experience coaching teams comprised entirely of left shot Defensemen.

    Which the Oilers are tracking to become, apparently.

    The following long-lived defence pairs were all left shooters:

    Coffey-Huddy
    Jackson-Gregg
    Lowe-Muni

    It worked out OK.

  49. Pouzar says:

    blainer:
    Come on OKC… I cannot go through another quad overtime…

    Bachman…what a save on that 2 on 1.

  50. Gret99zky says:

    Bag of Pucks: Agreed, and I’m thinking that the odds of doing that with an Eastern European supermodel are exponentially better in NY than here?

    Look at the Octane Girls. A handful of those girls look like ten miles of bad road!

    They make up for it in analytics.

  51. Lowetide says:

    Bruce McCurdy: The following long-lived defence pairs were all left shooters:

    Coffey-Huddy
    Jackson-Gregg
    Lowe-Muni

    It worked out OK.

    I think people have forgotten, good on you for bringing a solid reminder. The Capitals are five minutes away from advancing to the final four. How many times have they gotten that far? Can’t be many.

  52. Pouzar says:

    Wow…….did the color guy just do a “woooooooo” after the play-by-play guy called the penalty on McDavid?

  53. blainer says:

    Pouzar,

    he is playing fantastic…

  54. Lowetide says:

    OT in OKC and McDavid’s Otters down by 2 goals in the third period.

  55. Pouzar says:

    Wow…Rockets up 3-1 on Brandon and outshooting them 16-8.
    No pts for Drai

  56. Pouzar says:

    Boooooooooooooooooooooooo

  57. Pouzar says:

    Utica wins

  58. MrEd says:

    Thanks for the updates Pouzar et al. This is my source.

  59. BeerMe says:

    A little late but here’s a radio broadcast of the OHL finals: http://www.ottersapp.com/stream/

  60. Pouzar says:

    After Brandon ties it at 3 the Drai line takes over and it’s 4-3.
    Drai may have tipped it. He completely undressed a Brandon defender one on one before that
    and almost scored.

  61. Lowetide says:

    Leon has a goal, Kelowna is up 4-3.

  62. Adam Wu says:

    book¡je:
    And all of you questioned Lowe’s moves starting with the Pronger trade. I submit that there is no possible decision-making pathway that could have led to the Oilers having as optimistic of a future from this day forward than that which Kevin Lowe took. The man is a hockey genius beyond our capacity to understand.

    And he sacrificed his own career and reputation to do it.

    The man is a saint, I say, a SAINT!

  63. Colieo87 says:

    hunter1909:
    RE Mike Babcock, prepared to listen to his wife’s opinion as the final word:

    Haha true Ray Bradbury fan

    nicely done

    1 – I never knew Mike wants to have his children grow up in a Western Canada atmosphere.

    2 – Mike’s children will make it very clear to Mom that they need to meet Connor McDavid.

    3 – Mom smiles.

    4 – Oiler fans fly up toward the sky, because Katz’s drugs have kept us from knowing the truth = it’s Fahrenheit 451, and we’re all going to die.

  64. hags9k says:

    Atta boy Leon. Put on your dark goggles for training camp people, it could be New Mexico, 1945, stand back.

  65. The Duke of Hafford says:

    Is Marco Roy hurt or a healthy scratch? He hasnt played in the last few games.

  66. GCW_69 says:

    if the Oilers miss out on Matty, here are some other options:

    http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/122959/the-top-five-goalies-not-affiliated-with-nhl-teams-yet/

    5. Denis Godla, HC Slovan Bratislava (KHL)/Piestany SHK 37 (SVK)

    4. Emil Garipov, Ak Bars Kazan (KHL)

    3. Taran Kozun, Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL)

    1. Joel Lassinantti, Lulea (SHL)

    Garipov looks interesting. Lassinantti is worth a contract, despite the size issue.

  67. Ben says:

    Lord, the Andrew Cogliano phase of the rebuild seems like a boring fever-dream from a different lifetime.

  68. square_wheels says:

    hags9k,

    Playing LW behind Hall and Poo is prime soft parade for the big lad, he would look good with Lander and a Yak/teddy. The comparisons to big Joe are accurate, he’s a load at 19 already ,what’s 24 yr old Leon look like?

  69. square_wheels says:

    square_wheels:
    hags9k,

    Playing LW behind Hall and Poo is prime soft parade for the big lad, he would look good with Lander and a Yak/teddy. The comparisons to big Joe are accurate, he’s a load at 19 already ,what’s 24 yr old Leon look like?
    But I’d prefer to see him with a couple decent vets. Matthias and someone faster than teddy. Glencross have any gas left ?

  70. Dashingsilverfox says:

    square_wheels:

    The Big Joe…is Joe Colborne.

  71. square_wheels says:

    Dashingsilverfox,

    Come fucking on 🙂

  72. Dashingsilverfox says:

    square_wheels:
    Dashingsilverfox,

    Come fucking on

    They’re pretty much the exact same player.

  73. square_wheels says:

    Dashingsilverfox,

    In height, style, somewhat skating ability, but Leon’s upside is miles in front of Colborne. I don’t see Leon as a 3rd line tweener, but neither does anyone else.

    Leon is driving the bus in Kelowna and clearly was in PA, Colborne has never been at that level.

  74. frjohnk says:

    Dashingsilverfox: They’re pretty much the exact same player.

    Are you talking about third line winger Joe Colborne and first line center Joe Thornton?

  75. Ice Sage says:

    square_wheels:
    Dashingsilverfox,

    In height, style, somewhat skating ability, but Leon’s upside is miles in front of Colborne. I don’t see Leon as a 3rd line tweener, but neither does anyone else.

    Leon is driving the bus in Kelowna and clearly was in PA, Colborne has never been at that level.

    Leon’s not as boneheaded stupid to take a selfish, series-costing penalty, either.

    Flames fans mute…

  76. Dashingsilverfox says:

    square_wheels:
    Dashingsilverfox,

    In height, style, somewhat skating ability, but Leon’s upside is miles in front of Colborne. I don’t see Leon as a 3rd line tweener, but neither does anyone else.

    Leon is driving the bus in Kelowna and clearly was in PA, Colborne has never been at that level.

    Nonsense.

    Colborne was the leading goal scorer at the U of Denver in his last season in college.

    He’s been at that level forever.

  77. Dashingsilverfox says:

    frjohnk: Are you talking about third line winger Joe Colborne and first line center Joe Thornton?

    And AHL winger Leon Draisaitl.

  78. Younger Oil says:

    Bob M retweeted something saying that Matt O’Connor will announce his decision tomorrow afternoon.

    Fingers crossed that we get him, but don’t have high hopes. Don’t think he’s a savior or anything, but if signing him means less goalies drafted this year, that’s a big damn deal, especially in this draft.

  79. Mr DeBakey says:

    GCW_69: 4. Emil Garipov, Ak Bars Kazan (KHL)

    Garipov has resigned with his hometown team AK Bars Kazan.

    Still available is former OHL Rookie of the Year
    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=56014

  80. frjohnk says:

    Dashingsilverfox: And AHL winger Leon Draisaitl.

    Well Leon may play there next year but Cobourne only averaged 5 faceoffs in the regular season per game. In the playoffs 2 faceoffs per game.
    8 goals in the regular season.

    Coborne is a 3rd line winger. A nice one though. Bad penalty tonight. Flames buddy hates him right now.

  81. square_wheels says:

    Dashingsilverfox,

    I’m too drunk and my knee hurts from mountain bike mud bog, sooooo I guess we can disagree and watch how a 19yr old pans out. I’d bet the rest of this bottle of Wild Turkey Leon puts up as many points as 25 yr old Colborne does in the NHL by 21.

  82. SwedishPoster says:

    Dashingsilverfox: They’re pretty much the exact same player.

    You keep claiming this but one is a 6’5 center gone winger who when scoring well tends to have almost as many goals as assists the other one is a 6’1 almost 6’2 center who can score but tends to rack up the helpers with great vision. Their boardwork is similar, they both have long strides and don’t accelerate very well but that’s not enough to even be close to the same player. It’s an awful comparison. There are other mediocre players to compare Leon to if you want to point out that you consider him overrated, Colborne is just a very weird choice.

  83. frjohnk says:

    Joe Thornton has been one of the best possession players in the last decade.

    His lowest CF% season was in 09-10 with a 51.4% since 2005.
    His highest was in 07-08 with a CF% of 58.41.
    This past year he had a CF% of 58.32 ( his second best)
    His CF% average since 2005 is 55.79%

    Colborne has a helluva ways to get there with a CF% of 42.9% this year.

    Maybe Colborne becomes more than just a third line winger, but after draft +7, I wouldn’t expect much more.

    As for Draisaitl, we are just 10 months past his draft. And I forget the guy LT had on his show, but the guy was saying that Draisaitl was a possession monster with the Rockets.

    Here is ranked number 1 of all drafted centers in the WHL. http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/122639/draisaitl-reinhart-cream-nhl-drafted-center-crop-whl/

  84. Lowetide says:

    All people named Joe are the same.

  85. Магия 10 says:

    Dashingsilverfox: They’re pretty much the exact same player

    Wonder where we heard that before?

  86. Surly says:

    Younger Oil:
    Bob M retweeted something saying that Matt O’Connor will announce his decision tomorrow afternoon.

    Fingers crossed that we get him, but don’t have high hopes. Don’t think he’s a savior or anything, but if signing him means less goalies drafted this year, that’s a big damn deal, especially in this draft.

    O’Connor on Saturday
    Flames eliminated on Sunday
    Babcock on Monday

    Huzaa!

  87. Gordies Elbow says:

    Lowetide:
    All people named Joe are the same.

    Yep. Liked him in Vs. the Volcano.

    That said – I think Dr. Ellison would suggest that someone has a “brain cloud.” I’ll leave it as an exercise to reader to determine whom that may be.

  88. Магия 10 says:

    Lowetide:
    All people named Joe are the same.

    Pretty much everything DSF says is the same.

  89. Lois Lowe says:

    SwedishPoster,

    You can just drop the mic and walk away after a comment like that. Well played sir(?).

  90. stush18 says:

    I think all this good luck the oilers are recieving right now is short circuiting DSF. Mcdavid, the pitt pick, flames losing out, chiapet, maclellan or babcock, hall and ebs at WC’s; its just too much for him!

    He usually puts up a semi-convincing arguement.

    He didnt even pull up handpicked stats to help and try to prove his point this time.

  91. AsiaOil says:

    McLellan with Nelson as co-coach if he wants to stay with the ability to leave for a head coaching gig any time is my preferred outcome. For no particular reason Babcock feels like he would be a higher maintenance guy and would be perceived as doing the Oilers a favor in taking the job – while McLellan has something to prove and the relationship seems more balanced. Having Eberle and Hall play for him and sounding positive this spring helps as well. Chiarelli, McLellan & Nelson is solid – MacT can make the coffee and Lowe can order the pizza.

  92. SwedishPoster says:

    AsiaOil,

    With Eakins standing outside screaming NO PIZZA!

  93. Магия 10 says:

    Gordies Elbow: Yep. Liked him in Vs. the Volcano

    True Fact. Back in the day DSF did the voiceover for I am Joe’s Spleen.

  94. BOLD OVER (5-14-6-1) says:

    McJesus skates on (frozen) water.

    Now if Babs can part the neutral zone…

  95. icecastles says:

    haters: My honest opinion is to stick with Nelson for a year

    Nelson is great and if they can’t land a blue-chip veteran coach, then I’m sure he will do fine.

    But there is absolutely no conceivable scenario in which you take a moderately successful AHL coach over either of the most respected and successful coaches in the entire NHL. None.

    It’s been said (by LT and others) that the Oilers have developed a history for overvaluing what they have and undervaluing what they don’t (or overvaluing what is plentiful and undervaluing what is rare… both apply equally, really). Picking Nelson over Babcock or McLellan (assuming of course that the decision is Edmontons to make and one of them of course has to actually pick us) would be a more painful example of this than any trade they’ve made in recent memory.

    It would be like passing on Taylor Hall in the 2010 draft because you liked watching Mark Pysyk on the Oil Kings. Seriously.

  96. icecastles says:

    AsiaOil: For no particular reason Babcock feels like he would be a higher maintenance guy and would be perceived as doing the Oilers a favor in taking the job

    I know you lead in by saying “for no particular reason” but that’s a really unusual observation and certainly not the impression I’ve ever received of him. If anything, I’ve always gotten precisely the opposite sense of Babcock than that of an entitled, high-maintenance guy. Though even if he is, I’d say so what? He’s earned the right to be. The dude delivers. Like the people worrying that Hall might be a jerk. Aside from the utter baselessness of the assertion, who cares? We need more jerks.

  97. PhrankLee says:

    Lowetide: All people named Joe are the same.

    Honestly hilarious. Your timing impeccable, deadpan delivery flawless.

    It’s very true.

    Ha ha. I could positively hear you rolling your eyes, if that’s possible.

  98. cabbiesmacker says:

    icecastles:
    It would be like passing on Taylor Hall in the 2010 draft because you liked watching Mark Pysyk on the Oil Kings. Seriously.

    That’s a really stupid analogy. Seriously.

    Which of the coaching possibles knows more about the Oiler kids? Which has done more with less? Have you see McLellan and Babcock coach shitty teams and get results?

    What F’ing coach in any hockey league, anywhere, could have won with the talent the Oilers useless management team decided to ice for the past umpteen years?

  99. GCW_69 says:

    Mr DeBakey: Garipov has resigned with his hometown team AK Bars Kazan.

    Still available is former OHL Rookie of the Year
    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=56014

    How unfortunate.

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