STAND BACK!

In all of the excitement it’s easy to forget the Edmonton Oilers have been adding some interesting pieces to their arsenal. We’ll enjoy the efforts of about 50 pro players this coming season in Edmonton and Bakersfield, and the recent additions are legit prospects.

  • March 26: Signed D Ben Bekter. He’s big (6.06, 220) and can skate well, that’s absolute gold for an NHL team. His NHLE (12 points) suggests Betker will be a shut down type, but his speed/size should mean he’s capable of filling that role in the modern game. We should expect he’ll spend most of his entry-level deal in the minors but this signing has promise.
  • March 31: Signed D Joey Laleggia. At the other end of the prospect rainbow from Betker, we find Laleggia. He absolutely ripped up college hockey this past season (NHLE: 37 points!) and he could have an NHL career if he can play successfully away from the puck (he is 5.10, 185).
  • April 2: Extended C Anton Lander. This is a massive deal, because Lander looked like he was heading the way of Hartikainen and Rajala before Christmas. A stunning turnaround in the second half, and a terrifici WHC’s seem to have marked the turning point in this young man’s career. We’ll need to see it again, but he looks bona fide.
  • April 5: Signed C Kyle Platzer. On his draft day Platzer was described as a two-way type who had played a utility role in junior. That’s not a good spot for a draft eligible—people say good prospects play on deep teams but it usually has more to do with the prospect than the team—but Platzer proved to be the exception. His NHLE (29 points) suggests he has a chance to make his mark in the pro game.
  • April 13: Extended R Nail Yakupov. I’m still uncertain about where this ends, but the quick signing by Yak to a friendly two-year deal indicates a desire to make this work. His NHL numbers per 82 games played (18-20-38) aren’t terrible, and he should be stepping into a better situation with Todd McLellan (who produces high octane offensive teams).
  • May 12: Signed free-agent G Eetu Laurikainen. He’s 22, coming off a season where he played in a good Euro league (SML) and posted a .933 save percentage. I’d say that’s the definition of a solid bet. The only concern I have is this: The signing may have occurred one year too late, as it’s likely the Oilers will spend an early draft pick on a G.
  • May 27: Signed L Anton Slepyshev. This was a nice draft pick by MacTavish/MacGregor. He has big league speed and size (6.02, 188) and post ed his first quality KHL season at age 20 (NHLE: 28 points, including 16.5 goals). We should expect him to play in Bakersfield, and he’s willing to learn on the farm, but the numbers suggest he’s a better quality than most of the wingers Edmonton sent to the Barons for seasoning.

DENNIS MALGIN

I finally broke down and including Dennis Malgin in my top 120 yesterday. Why? The guy keeps showing up in spots where valuable players are listed. Malgin is small (5.09, 175) and is a January 1997. His WJC performances (U18 and U20) were stellar and he’s a slick player. He also has no fear based on his scouting reports. I have him in the fourth round (No. 96), and that means he’ll probably go in the sixth round (my list doesn’t include giants, coke machines and bagmen). Fast, skilled, successful. That’s a nice combination.

CONNOR MCDAVID

  • McDavid: “There’s nothing to accept. If it’s Edmonton, it’s great. I’ll be so happy if it’s Edmonton. If it’s not, it’ll be great as well. It doesn’t really matter. Everywhere is great in the NHL.” Source

I’ve been struck a few times this spring by a disturbing thought. It seems to me that both Connor McDavid and Jack Eichel are more mature and composed than the people covering them. If you go back and read twitter from prominent msm in the moments after the lottery show, it’s incredibly insightful (and inciteful!) to see how people really feel. It isn’t pretty, and it’s green. Just saying.

  • Travis Dermott on playing with McDavid as a kid: “Both our dads were the coaches and we were close, all four of us. But you’d go ask Connor to hang out and he said he couldn’t sleep over because he had to stay home and stickhandle. Little things like that sort of set him apart at a young age.” Source

There’s a lot about this young man that’s awesome and this story adds to it. How lucky we are to be cheering for the team that fell ass over tea kettle into No. 1 overall. I don’t think it’s hit us yet, but later this month a (very young) giant will walk among us.

Again.

DOUGIE HAMILTON OFFER SHEET

Fluto Shinzawa of the Boston Globe does a fantastic job of talking you into an Oilers offer sheet for Dougie Hamilton. Seriously. I mean, read the article and tell me it’s a bad idea.

  • Shinzawa: To sign a player for $7,305,316 to $9,131,645 annually, a team would have to give up two firsts, one second-, and one third-round pick. As highly as the Bruins think of Hamilton, this would be a steep price to pay.

Would the Oilers pay that much? Would they have to go beyond $7M to crush Boston? Shinzawa also states a team that signs a player to an offer sheet worth $5,478,986 to $7,305,316 annually would have to cede first-, second-, and third-round picks. Would $7M get Boston to back off?

  • Klefbom—Hamilton
  • Marincin—Fayne
  • Ference—Schultz
  • Nikitin

It’s still a dog’s breakfast, but Hamilton could really help this team. It’s worth thinking about, that’s for sure. I still don’t see how they keep Darnell Nurse off this roster. What are the odds Nikitin or Ference is healthy opening night? Suspect we’ll see  full IR if Nurse is ready.

YANDLE AND TALBOT?

Larry Brooks has some interesting thoughts in today’s NY Post:

  • Brooks: Perhaps Yandle becomes part of a package with Cam Talbot the Rangers can use to bring back a strong, grinding physical forward who can get to the net in the playoffs, when most obstruction infractions are ignored. Source

That would be an interesting addition, no? Yandle and Talbot? Edmonton has Benoit Pouliot (I don’t want to trade him) but I’d think a three-way deal with a team interested in prospects and picks might work best.

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  1. Bad Seed says:

    Wish we had a guy like Shinzawa in Edm msm. Great column.

  2. TheOtherJohn says:

    Fantastic sports day yesterday,,American Pharoah, CL final, WWC, SCF just WOW

    How does one score 16.5 goals?

    Why would the Oilers priority not be to trade for OEL? Very good 1D, 20 goal scorer and signed for 4 more years. Expect that the starting point of discussion would Draisatl+ but I’d seriously think about it.

  3. Lowetide says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    Fantastic sports day yesterday,,American Pharoah, CL final, WWC, SCF just WOW

    How does one score 16.5 goals?

    Why would the Oilers priority not be to trade for OEL? Very good 1D, 20 goal scorer and signed for 4 more years. Expect that the starting point of discussion would Draisatl+ but I’d seriously think about it.

    If OEL is in play, that’s certainly the first stop.

  4. Bad Seed says:

    It’s sounding more and more like PHX may have OEL on the block and start rebuilding from scratch, What’s the better option – trade for OEL & his reasonable salary or offer sheet Hamilton (I can’t call a grown man Dougie) for $7M+?

  5. John Chambers says:

    How about these transactions?

    Oilers send Purcell and #57 to Wpg for Tobias Enstrom. Toby has an ugly $5.75M cap hit for the next 3 seasons, but thankfully it’s only three seasons and the 30 year old is a top-4 D who can play 20 mins.

    The 16th OV pick goes to Tampa along with Nikitin and a 3rd in exchange for Matt Carle and the NYR pick at 28. That pick gets sold back to NYR for Cam Talbot.

    Neither Enstrom or Carle are unicorns, but are achievable trade targets as both Tampa and Winnipeg need cap space in 2016 to re-sign Stamkos, Ladd, Byfuglien, etc. Both teams should be willing to take back overpriced 1-year contracts in exchange for some flex in future years. The d-pairings look like:

    Klefbom – Carle
    Enstrom – Fayne
    Marincin – Schultz
    Ference

    Talbot

    U like?

  6. Ben says:

    I’m probably about to get slaughtered here….but:

    If Draisaitl has a strong year tracking as a quality 2C, and there’s an OEL type available straight up in a trade next summer, I consider moving RNH over LD.

    Gets you a couple of years of cap flex, and LD might bring a skillset that better complements McDavid.

    YES OF COURSE you keep them all if you can, but if you’re gonna move Draisait, I at least consider switching out RNH and seeing what your team looks like with McD and LD in the 1-2 spots a year or two from now.

  7. Lowetide says:

    Bad Seed:
    It’s sounding more and more like PHX may have OEL on the block and start rebuilding from scratch,What’s the better option – trade for OEL & his reasonable salary or offer sheet Hamilton (I can’t call a grown man Dougie) for $7M+?

    They’re both outstanding fits, suspect OEL is an easier deal because it would have more certainty (BOS could match). The problem? The price. Leon, No. 16 overall, next year’s first-round pick would all probably be in play imo. I’m NOT saying all go, don’t know enough about the situation and haven’t dug deep, but OEL is an interesting player (despite some wonky stats last time I looked).

  8. Woodguy says:

    John Chambers,

    Enstrom is WPG’s best Dman and is acknowledged as such.

    His salary is a bargain.

    Edit: Trouba is obviously coming on, but Enstrom plays the toughs and plays them fairly well for the meh help they have given him over the years. (Bogosian)

  9. wordbird says:

    This whole draft business (after 1OV pick) is really starting to wig me out.

    Would the Oilers be better off trading down from 16? Would Buffalo give up 21 & 31 for 16? Would they require more?

    Oilers would get something decent at 21 (players will fall in this draft, they always do), take one of Blackwood/Samsonov (G) at 31, and back to “regularly-scheduled programming” at 33?

    There are so many possibilities it’s hurting my head a little.

  10. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    If you’re the GM of this team, and you offer sheet Hamilton, you had better pray to Gord you make the playoffs. With the triple lottery format next year that Oilers first rounder is worth a kings ransom.

  11. Woodguy says:

    Bad Seed:
    It’s sounding more and more like PHX may have OEL on the block and start rebuilding from scratch,What’s the better option – trade for OEL & his reasonable salary or offer sheet Hamilton (I can’t call a grown man Dougie) for $7M+?

    Where are you seeing this?

    Last I heard Maloney was asked at a season ticket holder’s event “Why will your rebuild be a success and not a disaster like Edmonton?”

    His answer: “We already have our best Dmen under contract and that is where a rebuild starts”

    Paraphrased.

  12. Woodguy says:

    Ca$h-McMoney!:
    If you’re the GM of this team, and you offer sheet Hamilton, you had better pray to Gord you make the playoffs. With the triple lottery format next year that Oilers first rounder is worth a kings ransom.

    But probably still not worth near what Hamilton is unless the ticket cashes.

  13. John Chambers says:

    Woodguy:
    John Chambers,

    Enstrom is WPG’s best Dman and is acknowledged as such.

    His salary is a bargain.

    Edit: Trouba is obviously coming on, but Enstrom plays the toughs and plays them fairly well for the meh help they have given him over the years. (Bogosian)

    This was the case until last season. Enstrom has lost a step. He’s still top-4, but Byfuglien and Trouba play more minutes. Enstrom is a better pp option though.

    The contract is also an overpay but $1-1.5M

  14. Traktor says:

    Give Phoenix 10 first round picks and they wouldn’t find a D better than OEL. He’s pretty close to the best D in the league and he’s locked up to a good contract and he’s not even 25 yet.

    I have a hard time believing he’s available.

  15. frjohnk says:

    Woodguy: Where are you seeing this?

    Last I heard Maloney was asked at a season ticket holder’s event “Why will your rebuild be a success and not a disaster like Edmonton?”

    His answer: “We already have our best Dmen under contract and that is where a rebuild starts”

    Paraphrased.

    Ive read that Yotes are “listening” to offers for the 3rd, but nothing on OEL.

  16. rich says:

    Shinzawa is a really good writer and when he spit balls, it’s based on better bets then the buffon who writers for NESN (Hagerty). Much as I’d like to see an offer sheet for Hamilton, I do think it sets the Oilers up for a counter-attack in a couple of years w/a McDavid or someone else and I’d rather see PC think a little longer-term regarding the use of this budget.

    Saw the article last night by Brooks in the NYPost and was intrigued. Could absolutely see a scenario where the Rangers packaged Yandle and Talbot to the Oilers…particularly if PC walks away from Schultz. This would be an upgrade on Schultz EVEN IF Yandle has to play 3rd pairing minutes in his place because Yandle has a better offensive upside. In terms of dollars, w/Arizona picking up a part of Yandle’s contract this year, the dollars are a wash (actually down a little this season).

    So do this, buy-out Nikitin and you’ve upgraded your goalie, the bottom pairing of your defense and your PP. Still need to work on your Top 4D, but at least you’re moving in the right direction.

  17. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=40127

    “You always want to take the best player available,” said Oilers Director of Player Personnel Bob Green. “When you get to later on in the draft, you’re going to reach a point where it’s splitting hairs between two players. If they’re different positions, maybe you go with need as the tiebreaker. Then as you go a little further in the draft the chances are a little tougher for these kids to make it so there are other things you look at. But first and foremost, you look for the best player available.”

    For a team like the Oilers, with 10 picks in the 2015 NHL Draft, sometimes need starts to creep into the decision-making process. It’s something you can consider but not let it overrule the pure talent aspect of your evaluation of a player.

    “We talked the other day about need and that you’ve got to be careful about looking at what you need as opposed to best player available,” said Green. “If you’re trying to decide between two players and one is a forward and one is a defenceman and everything remains equal, then certainly you can look at need. It’s always in the back of your mind.”

  18. The Last Of Barrett Privateers says:

    I’m not sure offer sheeting anyone with McDavid coming in and the other talent the Oilers have is such a good idea.

    It opens up a lot of ugly doors for the Oilers to be taken advantage the same way in a few years.

  19. frjohnk says:

    Oilers 1st 2016

    for

    OEL

    we would really have to sell Maloney on the fact that we usually win the lottery and if he doesn’t do this trade he cant go all Murray on the TV when we win Auston Matthews next year.

  20. speeds says:

    rich:
    Shinzawa is a really good writer and when he spit balls, it’s based on better bets then the buffon who writers for NESN (Harrgerty).Much as I’d like to see an offer sheet for Hamilton, I do think it sets the Oilers up for a counter-attack in a couple of years w/a McDavid or someone else and I’d rather see PC think a little longer-term regarding the use of this budget.

    Anything is possible, but I would be kind of surprised if McDavid makes it to RFA status if his first 2 years go as expected. They may well make him the highest paid player in the league after 2 years, something like 88M over 8 years, if that’s how things play out?

    I do think that if EDM is going to go after Hamilton, we may see a sign in advance if they get a guy like Klefbom signed long term as soon as they can on July 1, so that they only have to worry about Nurse and Draisaitl going forward. Even a guy like Marincin, if they don’t sign him long term they may still want to get him inked prior to signing Hamilton’s offer sheet.

  21. Doug McLachlan says:

    Worrying about a “retaliation” offer sheet is foolish. If the Oil (or any team) has failed to lock up it’s core THAT is the offer sheet invitation, not past offers.

  22. TheOtherJohn says:

    I have NOT heard Phx is looking to trade OEL but we could make them interested. Would love to have all 3 1st round C but not sure strong at C with mediocre D and G makes us a quality team. If you are Maloney don’t you listen if offer is Draisatl, Schultz + (maybe #57 or Marincin)?

    Remember his 2 best C right now are Gagner and Arco.

    Checked WHC and OEL was playing 24-25 TOI for Sweden

  23. rich says:

    speeds,

    Sppeds, you may be bang on re: Hamilton but my preference would be a trade versus offer sheet for two reasons.

    Assume the range on the dollars for CMD’s 2nd contract sound right. EDM will be in a very similar situation at that point to where CHI is now (and was after their first cup) having to lose important pieces of the core due to dollars. May be that they have to do that even w/out Hamilton but again, you need to look long-term and decide how to deal with this (and perhaps make a preemptive strike with a trade before then). Still, who do we walk away from among Ebs/Hall/RNH at that stage?

    This leads to the 2nd part in this. The other reason I’m not fan of the offer-sheet is what it does to your prospect base. Go back to the Lowe offer sheet on Penner. The terrible draft record of the Lowe/Prendergast era (that LT is doing a magnificent job of analyzing and I hope he goes back further in this series) was magnified by the loss of draft prospects in 2008. We were fortunate to get the Eberle pick from ANA but we got nothing else in 2008. Put that on top of bad drafts from 2002 to 2009 and we can understand easily how we got in our position. Not enough capable guys able to step in.

    With the prospect base only now recovering, doing this again puts us in a real bind in a couple of years when we’ll badly need prospect to step in and sustain success when the CMD cluster should be competitive.

    Just saying.

  24. Traktor says:

    The Rangers gave up a sizeable return to acquire Yandle so he wouldn’t come cheap and if we’re paying through the nose that’s not the D that I would go after. Letting Schultz walk and then paying large to aquire Yandle? Seems like a loser bet IMO.

    I still like the idea of going after Gibson. I get that this might be a transitional year when it comes to goalies but don’t give away a ton of assets for a guy that isn’t going to be THE solution.

    I’m not paying for Cam Talbot’s sv %. 57 career games on a shut down 1st place hockey club. Montreal’s pick and prospect like David Musil. Otherwise load all the canons on improving D and let Laurent Brossoit and the Finn battle it out.

  25. speeds says:

    rich,

    the prospect base isn’t permanently damaged by moving a 1st 2nd and 3rd. Whatever loss the prospect base sees is arguably (?) more than made up for by adding a 22 yr old soon-to-be-if-not-already (?) top pair RD.

    It may be that such an offer sheet makes more sense for a team in BOS’s division, perhaps DET, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t make any sense for EDM.

  26. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    If McDavid is available for an offer sheet he will be presented with one. It will have nothing to do with retaliation. Every damn team in the league will be talking to his agent, even if Chiarelli is best friends with the opposing GM.

    Every owner in the league understands how much richer they will instantly be with McDavid on their team. This is exactly why the Penguins are for sale: sell the team now while Crosby and Malkin are still stars. Those owners are going to have a huge payout relative to their purchase price. HUGE.

  27. Loyal2theoil says:

    For the McDavid Contract after ELC, I sort of want a 4 year deal , to lessen my anxiety about him getting an 8 year contract at 21, bringing him to 29 at the end of that deal and primed for UFA

  28. Traktor says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    I have NOT heard Phx is looking to trade OEL but we could make them interested. Would love to have all 3 1st round C but not sure strong at C with mediocre D and G makes us a quality team. If you are Maloney don’t you listen if offer is Draisatl, Schultz + (maybe #57 or Marincin)?

    Remember his 2 best C right now are Gagner and Arco.

    Checked WHC and OEL was playing 24-25 TOI for Sweden

    Draisatl = Hanifin
    OEL >>>> Hanifin

    Phoenix asks for RNH+

    #D for #1C

    OEL is more legitimate than RNH so RNH + something.

  29. Snowman says:

    Traktor,

    I’m not sure how you figure RNH is less legitimate than OEL.

    Also, you don’t trade your only center who can play the toughs. Doesn’t make sense. RNH isn’t going anywhere for at least a year or two (and hopefully longer).

  30. speeds says:

    Loyal2theoil:
    For the McDavid Contract after ELC, I sort of want a 4 year deal , to lessen my anxiety about him getting an 8 year contract at 21, bringing him to 29 at the end of that deal and primed for UFA

    How is it better if he’s a UFA at 25 than at 29?

  31. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    speeds,

    I think the play might be 2 year bridge then 8.

  32. speeds says:

    Ca$h-McMoney!:
    speeds,

    I think the play might be 2 year bridge then 8.

    Personally, if McDavid plays as expected, and wants to sign long term, I wouldn’t get cute with it

  33. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    speeds,

    Fair enough

  34. stephen sheps says:

    Woodguy: Where are you seeing this?

    Last I heard Maloney was asked at a season ticket holder’s event “Why will your rebuild be a success and not a disaster like Edmonton?”

    His answer: “We already have our best Dmen under contract and that is where a rebuild starts”

    Paraphrased.

    quoted for truthiness. Lord knows everyone in the league covets OEL but why on earth would Maloney trade the anchor of his D right now, even with the team’s financial (and potentially legal) issues?

  35. dustrock says:

    I wouldn’t compare an offer sheet for Penner for an offer sheet for Hamilton. The Penner offer sheet was dumb at the time, he’s a winger, etc.

    Hamilton is your #1 RHD, all-situations d-man for the next 10 years.

    But then I wanted to offer sheet Subban for $8×8, so what do I know.

  36. Eastern Oil says:

    THIS ARTICLE ISN’T ABOUT THE DRAFT! I DEMAND A DRAFT ARTICLE!

    *looks around furtively for draft fix*

  37. sliderule says:

    The 2003 and 2004 drafts were the two of the best both for high end players and quantity.

    Thirty one players drafted after first round played over 200 games from 2003 draft and surprisingly 34 from 2004.

    The oilers went into 2003 with 12 picks and Stortini and Brodziak played over 200 games.In 2004 they had 10 picks and Dubnyk was only one with over 200 games.That was depressing research.

    Don’t want to be downer but just having lots of picks even when in good drafts doesn’t guarantee success.Mcdavid is a given but the oilers better hang on to 16 as there record hasn’t been much better in rounds after the first.

    Until Green and Chia prove they know what they are doing I am not holding my breath.

  38. LMHF#1 says:

    You both trade for Larsson if Phoenix is bent on destruction, and offer sheet Hamilton.

    That would solve things in short order.

  39. Магия 10 says:

    speeds: Personally, if McDavid plays as expected, and wants to sign long term, I wouldn’t get cute with it

    Craig’s not on it! I suppose we won’t challenge Connor.

  40. rich says:

    speeds,

    I could be over-analyzing. Certainly our prospect base is better than where it was from 2004-2009 because the drafts have been better…although it’s hard to draft much worse than we did from 2000-2009.

    But it is why I’d be more inclined to go to BOS w/an Option A (players/picks/prospects) or Option B (offer-sheet) and try to negotiate something so we can sustain success during the CMD cluster – which would give him more reasons to sign a long-term agreement.

    We do need to turn north now, but I’d suggest it’s right around that 2nd contract that we really need to be proving to everyone that we’re serious about sustained success.

  41. Diesel says:

    John Chambers:
    How about these transactions?

    Oilers send Purcell and #57 to Wpg for Tobias Enstrom. Toby has an ugly $5.75M cap hit for the next 3 seasons, but thankfully it’s only three seasons and the 30 year old is a top-4 D who can play 20 mins.

    The 16th OV pick goes to Tampa along with Nikitin and a 3rd in exchange for Matt Carle and the NYR pick at 28. That pick gets sold back to NYR for Cam Talbot.

    Neither Enstrom or Carle are unicorns, but are achievable trade targets as both Tampa and Winnipeg need cap space in 2016 to re-sign Stamkos, Ladd, Byfuglien, etc. Both teams should be willing to take back overpriced 1-year contracts in exchange for some flex in future years. The d-pairings look like:

    Klefbom – Carle
    Enstrom – Fayne
    Marincin – Schultz
    Ference

    Talbot

    U like?

    Matt Carle played about 12 minutes last night, had 80% Off. ZS, and still got crushed to the tune of about 23% CF.

    Not sure he’s our 1st pairing solution.

  42. RexLibris says:

    Re: Betker

    When he was drafted I immediately paired his development with Keegan Kanzig, another massive WHL defender taken nearly 100 spots earlier by the Flames.

    Here’s their boxcars from draft year onwards.

    BB: 68gp 1-5-6 100 PIM -21

    KK: 70gp 0-7-7 159 PIM -10

    Not much difference save the +/- but Kanzig played on a better team. Otherwise they look a lot alike.

    Draft +1

    BB: 68gp 7-14-21 102 PIM -3

    KK: 63gp 3-5-8 99 PIM +18

    Slight separation in points, but Kanzig pulls ahead in the +/- as a result of playing on a rebuilt Royals team. PIMs still dominate their boxcars.

    Draft +2 (final junior season)

    BB: 64gp 6-25-31 63 PIM +19

    KK: 70gp 3-19-22 166 PIM +38 (split the season playing 49 games with the Hitmen)

    Betker appears to develop a game outside of the penalty box and shows some continued improvement. Kanzig shows much better in +/- but is playing for a powerhouse Hitmen team and his PIMs skyrocket just outside of Link Gaetz territory.

    By eye and number these two big men seem to be developing more or less in stride, if you account for teammates. The scouting reports suggest that Betker might be more readily adaptable to the NHL based on his skating, and my viewing of Kanzig at Penticton last year showed that he was slow to adapt to the quicker pace and movement of the game against NHL-hopefuls.

    ————

    Re: McDavid’s maturity

    I know it has been said he has the speed of Hall and the awareness of Gretzky, but the comparison that immediately came to me in watching him interview and on the bench was Jonathan Toews. They have the same expression on their face as if to say that everything, from media avails to brushing their teeth, is a distraction from improvement on the ice – from winning.

  43. TheOrangeDesk says:

    Any reason we’re not talking about signing Erhhoff in free agency. I know he had an injury plagued year but last year this board was screaming for MacT to sign him.. I think he could solve a lot of Oilers injuries, and if (when) he gets injured good opportunity for Nurse to be called up.

  44. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    RexLibris,

    Betker is a much better skater, and that likely plays into the point totals. I wouldn’t trade Betker for Kanzig, and I think if you made the offer any Flames fan that was paying attention would accept the trade in a heartbeat.

    Betker is the better player. Has been since day 1 and has progressed more on top of that.

  45. gd says:

    My gut says Chia is using the Hamilton Offer Sheet as leverage to get Chara as cheaply as possible. Boston needs to get out from Chara’s contract. I don’t think any cup contenders can afford him, so their trade options might only be us, Buff, Toronto and I think Boston would rather not have him in their division. Could the Oilers then trade the 33rd for Chara and the Chia future 2nd?

    Then if some C like Connor is still available at 16 could that pick be enough to get Ellis out of Nashville? Then they can walk on Schultz and buyout Nikitin.

    D becomes;

    Chara-Marancin
    Klefbom-Ellis
    Ference-Fayne
    Davidson
    and let Nurse slot wherever is best for his development, either here or Bakersfield.

    Sign whichever UFA goalie they determine is best value

    PS: If any of OEL, Hamilton, Seth Jones, Larsson are moving, the Oilers should have the assets to make a pretty enticing package for any of them. I just can’t imagine any of them moving except maybe Larsson.

  46. frjohnk says:

    Friedmans 30 thoughts are out
    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-nhl-to-ban-shot-blocking-techniques/

    major discussions that will affect the game to hopefully bring more goals.

    – decrease goalie equipment
    “There will not be time to institute changes for 2015-16, but there is a desire to have a proposal ready in time for the following season. The idea is to prevent gear that is more about blocking than it is about protection.

    -banning certain shotblocking techniques
    “It isn’t just the goaltenders being targeted. NHLPA special assistant Mathieu Schneider declined to comment, but, according to a couple of sources, he introduced thoughts about disallowing certain shot-blocking techniques. Without his commentary, it’s difficult to know exactly what he proposed, but in 2008, then-Canadiens GM Bob Gainey recommended banning full-body sliding while in the defending zone.`

  47. godot10 says:

    It would be wise to extend Klefbom for 8 years @ $4 million per season AAV BEFORE offersheeting Hamilton at 4 or 5 years x $7 million.

  48. godot10 says:

    Ben:
    I’m probably about to get slaughtered here….but:

    If Draisaitl has a strong year tracking as a quality 2C, and there’s an OEL type available straight up in a trade next summer, I consider moving RNH over LD.

    Gets you a couple of years of cap flex, and LD might bring a skillset that better complements McDavid.

    YES OF COURSE you keep them all if you can, but if you’re gonna move Draisait, I at least consider switching out RNH and seeing what your team looks like with McD and LD in the 1-2 spots a year or two from now.

    1) Nugent-Hopkins is already proven and extended on a cap-friendly deal. Draisaitl is neither remotely proven (and won’t be in one season) nor cap controlled long term. He is cap-controlled if he fails to deliver, but NOT cap-controlled if he delivers. And MacT has already pissed away one entry level year.
    2) Nugent-Hopkins provides cover for McDavid. He is the only player on the Oilers that will force the opposing coach into a Sophie’s choice of who to target.

    So it is extremely ill-advised to even think about trading Nugent-Hopkins. He is the most crucial piece to developing McDavid. The Oilers need Nugent-Hopkins (and Eberle and Hall and Pouliot) to guarentee the McDavid is playing with great quality linemates and with Nugent-Hopkins likely drawing the top forwards and D away from McDavid.

    Datsyuk and Zetterberg were allowed to ease into the NHL behind Yzerman and Federov.

    Suggesting that McDavid should face the vaunt in his teens is NOT a good idea.

  49. square_wheels says:

    TheOrangeDesk,

    Serious concussion issues, one hit away from retirement.

  50. Mtl-oiler says:

    gd,

    I wish people would please stop with the trade for Chara talk.
    The guy is 38 years old and $7M cap hit for the next 2 seasons and $4M for the year after that.
    He is finished. He was done in 2014 playoffs. There was nothing left in the tank then and continued on this year (only played 63 games). If he plays 50 games next season I’ll be surprised. My bet is he retires after next season.
    If there was no cap he might be worth a gamble but at 38, with allot of heavy miles and $7M per season no thanks.

  51. bigbadbruin24 says:

    Dougie is the real deal. I watched almost all of the Bruins games this year and for those wondering if he is a top 2D now…he is. The only minor knock on him I would have would be that he still makes a few miscues in his own zone. I have no doubt that will straighten itself out.

    If Edm (or anybody else) makes an offer sheet in the range which costs them a first, second and third pick I think the Bruins say thanks for doing the contract work for us and match. This would mean others on the B’s would have to go but I cannot see a realistic scenario where not matching the offer sheet in that range makes sense.

    On the other hand, if the Oil (or anybody else) were to venture into the next compensation level of two firsts, a second and a third…well all bets are off. I think the B’s almost certainly have to take the picks and let Dougie go…especially if the Bruins consider the offering team a potential lottery team. Hopefully the Oilers are in a position to make the playoffs next season…I personally believe they will make it in.

    As much as I like the Oil and think Hamilton would be a perfect fit in Edmonton, as a Bruin fan I hope they get a deal done with Dougie before he even hits the market. He could be a potential Norris trophy finalist (not in a Justin Schultz kind of way) for many years to come…possibly as early as next season.

    Go Oilers Go…just leave Dougie out of it please, lol.

  52. stephen sheps says:

    G Money: https://oilersnerdalert.wordpress.com/2015/06/07/more-blogs-about-goalies-and-food/

    fantastic talking heads reference, G!

    LT, have they ever been used or considered for the RE series? My memory seems to be slipping today

  53. gd says:

    Mtl-oiler,

    I don’t think Chara is finished. He is overpaid, but for only for 3 more years. He still led a team that had over 90 pts in TOI, so I think he would be able to handle top4 minutes on the Oilers for a least a couple of more years. He still has a cannon from the point that we have been missing. I think he would be the best fit of all of the mediocre to bad options we have been looking at on the UFA market. I would rather have him for 3 years, then Franson for 5 years at $5.5 Mill. I also think he will be a great mentor for Klef/Nurse and especially Marancin and would be the right type of Captain for a couple of years, while the young guns sort out the leadership pecking order.

  54. G Money says:

    stephen sheps: fantastic talking heads reference, G!

    One of my favourite quirky album titles ever!

  55. frjohnk says:

    G Money:
    *** NERD ALERT ***

    YALAG.

    https://oilersnerdalert.wordpress.com/2015/06/07/more-blogs-about-goalies-and-food/

    As always, a well written article.

    Nuevirth/Talbot?

    Sign me up.

  56. stephen sheps says:

    G Money,

    and a damn good record, too. not my favourite of theirs, mind you. that honour goes to remain in light.

  57. square_wheels says:

    G Money,

    Exceptional work, once again. Understanding That dip in the 80-180 games window is going to consume my day now!

    Theories:
    – mental exhaustion and the adjustment to the rigours of facing the worlds best players a few nights a week
    -marriage & kids
    – overconfidence, the “I’ve made it”, received a nice contract, got a touch lazy
    – scouting, players figure out the habits and exploit them
    – team relies on G to make tough saves and starts breaking down or weakening systems play exposing more high risk shooting locations

    I like the Neuverth bet, I’m risk averse and hate dealing with Slats. Scriven’s is an introspective guy, I suspect he works extremely hard to be ready for camp.

  58. bigbadbruin24 says:

    Big Z is not finished. He is getting up there in age and his contract is not fantastic for a team looking to pick him up but he is far from done. Although he has slowed down due to age and injuries, he should have plenty left in the tank to last a few more seasons. Assuming the PCL tear and fractured tibia heal up nicely, he will continue to be an asset to his team. His conditioning is well known around the league as top level so he will bounce back next season.

    Should the Oilers take a shot at him if he becomes available next season? Depends on the ask of course.

  59. gd says:

    G Money,

    Great analysis. Though I am of the opinion the D is the more important fix as I think it will cost more, I do agree with your conclusions. I think Neuvirth should be the UFA target, with Enroth 2nd, Rammo 3rd and Niemi 4th. We should only be bidding against Buff & SJ so no one should be in for a huge overpay. I feel we can run a Neuvirth with a hopefully bounce back Scrivens and save the trading assets for D. I think a reasonable 3rd option like Talbot, could be acquired during the season for a 2nd or 3rd rd pick if they both suck. I

  60. G Money says:

    Thanks for the feedback all!

    Definitely an interesting process.

    The defense is going to remain a real nightmare to fix, but digging into the long term goalie curves along with the work Frjohnk and WG did gives me some hope that the goaltending can be fixed at reasonable cost. And that will be a big deal.

  61. LadiesloveSmid says:

    http://flamesnation.ca/2015/6/3/would-robbie-russo-be-a-fit-in-calgary

    just stumbled on this guy. Robbie Russo, right shot D, 41P in 40GP with Notre Dame is choosing to become a UFA on August 15th. Edmonton should trade a late pick for his rights, or at least go after him then

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=38628

  62. Ice Sage says:

    Al Hamilton
    Hamilton Bulldogs
    Ryan Hamilton
    Curtis Hamilton

    Whats one more?

    C’mon Chia Pete, teach me how to Dougie

  63. Lowetide says:

    A little more on the Hamilton OS idea
    http://oilersnation.com/2015/6/7/in-through-the-out-door

  64. v4ance says:

    I posted the Dougie Hamilton RFA offer sheet proposal a few days ago in one of LT’s threads but I’m glad others are picking it up in the mainstream media as well.

    On the topic of goalies, I wanted to do a study of 1st rounders versus all the rest of the rounds

    Goalies drafted 2005-2009:

    2005 1st round 2 Good (Price, Rask), Post 1st round 4 Good/tweeners (Pavelec, Quick, Bishop, Stalock,) 17 Busts (Plante, Frazee, Pelletier, Westblom, Vincent, Duchesne, Lalande, Popperle, Dakers, Machesney, Keetley, Foster, Beech, Fallon, Dennis, Levasseur, McGann)

    2006 1st round 2 Good (Bernier, Varlamov) 2 Busts (Helenius, Irving), Post 1st round 7 Good/tweeners (Neuvirth, Enroth, Mason, Reimer, Berra, Bachman, Johnson) 13 Busts (Zatkoff, Larsson, Palmer, Kovar, Bennett, Hovinen, Pitton, Kangas, Daniels, Ridderwall, Dupont, Cheverie, Sauer)

    2007 1st round None selected, Post 1st round 1 Tweener (Darling) 17 Busts (Gistedt, Lafleur, Smith, Pielmeier, Unice, Sexsmith, Stefaniszin, Patterson, Modig, Rowat, Eidsness, Dunn, York, Phillips, Eno, Gayduchenko, Engren)

    2008 1st round 2 Busts (Pickard, McCollum), Post 1st round Good/tweeners (Markstrom, Allen, Hutchinson, Holtby, Tokarski, Poulin, Lindback) 14 Busts (Beskorowany, Delmas, Cousineau, De Serres, Sateri, Missiaen, Pechurski, Carrozzi, Rollheiser, Murphy, Killeen, Karpowich, Clark, Eriksson)

    2009 1st round None selected, Post 1st round 4 Good/tweeners (Lehner, Kuemper, Hackett, Ortio) 16 Busts (Koskinen, Nilsson, Bobkov, Morrison, Lee, Berube, Pasquale, Millan, Roy, Stajcer, Riopel, Zador, Maxwell, Knapp, Cannata, Simila)

    I was going to go further but I saw that making judgements on goalies 2010 and onwards was foolish because many haven’t established themselves one way or another.

    My bias going in was to try to show that 1st round goalies are a risky proposition but I don’t think I had a big enough of a sample size to make a definitive judgement.

    1) Goalies take forever to develop. Even star goalies like Quick and Rask took 4+ years to establish that they were starter quality and “good to average” guys like Bishop and Mason took 6+ years. If you take one, be prepared to keep them past the ELC and into the second contract before you can expect a reasonable return on the pick. If they bust, they usually show indications of the flame out within the first 3 years after the draft

    2) If you pick a goalie in the first round, they should project as elite. If you miss, you tend to miss big and the waste of a 1st rounder will have you regretting all the talent that was selected by other teams after your pick. Teams seemed to be getting smarter over the years as in a few drafts there were no goalies selected in the first round. The first round goalies selected were mostly boom or bust with very few in the tweener or intermittent starter category.

    Really from a risk management strategy, goalies should be added to the category of players who fall on draft day. Guys with skating issues, smaller players, guys with “behavioural” issues, players who don’t know defence, enigmatic Russian types, low hockey sense, etc. If drafting players is like Poker, don’t go all in on goalies; slow play them and wait for the river or fold when things go belly up fast.

  65. commonfan14 says:

    I’d imagine Lucic would be pretty easy to deal if a pricey Hamilton offer sheet ever came around.

    It might have to be a case where the compensation was at a level that the Bruins wouldn’t be able to turn it down.

  66. FinnOil says:

    Oilers are already going to give compensation picks to Bruins (2nd) and Sharks (3rd) in one of the next three drafts. And I think they won’t be giving picks away this year so those picks would be 2016 or 2017.
    Now if they offer sheeted Hamilton and would give 2x1st+2nd+3rd as compensation I think those picks would also be given away in 2016 (1st+2nd+3rd) and 2017 (1st). Is this about correct?

    So if that is correct, Oilers wouldn’t have any of their own picks in first three rounds either in 2016 or in 2017.
    Of course that’s one way to solve drafting problems by giving away all picks.

    Naturally Oilers can get new picks by trading players but I still think they can’t give away that many compensation picks.

  67. Hammers says:

    LT I need to thank you for the updates you supply on Betker and the other 6 . sometimes with the flow of news we tend to forget day to day things that are important to the team you follow . Thanks .

  68. Hammers says:

    Hammers</st

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