HANG FIRE

Todd McLellan knows the feeling of dread associated with Taylor Hall bearing down as he crosses the blue line and he knows Jordan Eberle is money in tight. I imagine he knows what a gift he has in Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and the impressive future of man-child Oscar Klefbom. Here’s a question: What DOESN’T he know about the Oilers, their young players and the talent he’ll see in the fall? Answer: Plenty! Here’s a list of players currently in the system who may jump past several more established players and make the opening night roster this fall—and the reason they’ll get noticed.

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  • Darnell Nurse is a nasty blue. Nurse is a shocking player for Edmonton fans because he’s wired to initiate contact. I like his range of skills, including an impressive wingspan, good foot speed and passing ability. Let’s not overrate that, he isn’t Erik Karlsson as a passer, but Nurse isn’t going to club the damn puck square either. I think he’ll be a 35-point player consistently in the NHL and with his other skills that’s an impressive NHL blue.

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  • Leon Draisaitl is smoooth. McLellan got to see Leon a couple of times last year, including a pretty nice game in San Jose (December). I think it’s going to be damn near impossible to send Leon or Darnell to Bakersfield unless Chiarelli has a summer to remember, but if LD plays with skilled men through training camp he’s going to shine, shine, shine. Fantastic passer and being a year older should help.

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  • Bogdan Yakimov’s size. He’s huge! He didn’t score a ton in the AHL but there was much adjusting to do and Yakimov did have a nice run going before an injury ended his season. Rick Carriere, Oilers Sr. Director of Player Development: “He had a lot of confidence with the puck as we saw in development camp and in the rookie games. He wasn’t afraid to try and stick handle over the blueline or try to go through one or two defenders. There were examples this season in Oklahoma City where he was able to do that just with his sheer size. His foot speed is a little bit deceptive in that you don’t think he’s moving as fast as he is but he’s like a locomotive when he gets going. He does get a step on the defenceman. It’s hard to defend him because he’s so strong and can turn the corner and take the puck to the net.” Source

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  • Anton Slepyshev can score. In viewing him during KHL games, he looks fast and has the kind of pro size Edmonton lacks with many of their skill players  (he is 6.02, 194). The Oilers traded David Perron and replaced him with Matt Fraser, and we call that an opportunity the approximate size of the earth. It could go to a veteran acquired over summer, or Leon. Or Anton Slepyshev.

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  • Iiro Pakarinen is a rugged Finn! I’m not sure how much he’ll score, but Pakarinen plays an aggressive game and he gets in there. He showed flashes of offense and if that’s something that could grow into 10-15 goals a year, he’ll eat Klinkhammer’s lunch by Christmas.

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  • Greg Chase is an agitating maniac! I think this guy has a real chance to get noticed by the new coach. Chase is a good hockey player full stop, but if he can become a consistent and reliable player (that’s a tough thing for young players, even top picks) then he’ll have a career. Miles more natural talent than some of the kids Edmonton took way higher.

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  • Jordan Oesterle is fast, fast, fast. It’s easy to overlook him because he was undrafted and remains relatively new but the man can flat out move on the ice. There’s a learning curve, but McLellan did keep some interesting players in SJS over the years. I think he has a chance.

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  • Brandon Davidson is boring—in a good way! One of the thing we’ll have to keep an eye on is veteran D and injury/ineffective play. McLellan isn’t tied to Niki Nikitin or Andrew Ference and if they’re flagging, the callup is generally the player who is less prone to making errors. That’s Davidson, who surprised with his effective play when recalled by the Oilers.

Plus McDavid. Stand back, we don’t know how big this thing is going to get!

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  1. Hammers says:

    One thing hallelujah . Told my sons and grandsons concentrate on D . Nurse and 2 more D with what we have plus a goalie and we will be knocking on heavens door with the potential we have . At least a goalie and 1 D and I would run this group we have 2 D would be better but they better look at there Cap as it will be in 2-3 years .

  2. Hammers says:

    Forgot say thanks to Katz for letting the F up go long enough to get us here . When they get back in playoffs, maybe not this year but we will be back for 10 plus years .

  3. theres oil in virginia says:

    Very nice article LT.

  4. Derek says:

    In light of recent news out of Dallas I would really enjoy it if Edmonton signed Horcov to a 1 year 1.5 million dollar deal to ride shotgun w/ Hall and Mcdavid. A defensive conscience on that line would be nice, but the primary objective would be to drive a portion of the fanbase completely insane.

    Schadenfreude is the best freude.

  5. Pajamah says:

    Hammers:
    Forgot say thanks to Katz for letting the F up go long enough to get us here . When they get back in playoffs, maybe not this year but we will be back for 10plus years .

    We’ll know where his head is at if he humbly accepts the good days, as opposed to releasing a statement about the need for hard times to get to this point. We did not need the last 9 years to get here. We needed as fans, to accept a downturn, and to not have to luck into a generational talent.

  6. Pouzar says:

    Oesterle is gonna log a ton of minutes in Bakersfield and make Chia take notice. He can move the puck in the “A” and he dragged Ference’s carcass to a 50+ corsi rating in one game. That alone deserves a HOF vote. One of my fav prospects. And as LT said…kid can fly.

  7. Derek says:

    I had to post that dumb idea first, as to LT’s wonderful article, I really hope they find some way to keep both Draisaitl and Nurse in the AHL for at least half the season and I hope Chase continues his upward trajectory from last season.

    Edit to add: Also, what is up with Oesterles lack of offense in the AHL? What sort of player are we looking at here?

  8. rickithebear says:

    I look forward to the day physically dominate
    Backes 6’3″ 221lb 2.95lb/in tries to drive past
    his opposition center
    6’5″ 232lb 3.01 lb/in Bogdan Yakimov

  9. Kermodoil says:

    The light at the end of the tunnel, was burnt out last year, way too early. Nelson gave the guys some confidence.

    I am excited by Nurse, Leon, McDavid and the guys LT listed above.

    Now a strong draft, and sign a FA goalie, and a decent NHL Dman/mentor, and we can’t wait for October

  10. BrazilianOil says:

    How compares Chase numbers with Brad Marchand in junior?

  11. Bad Seed says:

    rickithebear,

    Speaking of Backes, he’s supposedly on the trading block in St Loo.

  12. Lowetide says:

    BrazilianOil:
    How compares Chase numbers with Brad Marchand in junior?

    In draft year

    Marchand 68GP, 29-37-66
    Chase 69GP, 17-32-49

  13. Pouzar says:

    Derek:

    Edit to add: Also, what is up with Oesterles lack of offense in the AHL?What sort of player are we looking at here?

    In his 2 full seasons in the AHL Duncan Keith scored 25pts (75gms) and 26 pts(79gms).
    Oesterle had 25 pts in 65 games last year. I wouldn’t worry about it at this point. I wish they wouldn’t have signed Hunt. Oesterle/Leggs need those prime PP minutes.

  14. Lowetide says:

    Derek:
    In light of recent news out of Dallas I would really enjoy it if Edmonton signed Horcov to a 1 year 1.5 million dollar deal to ride shotgun w/ Hall and Mcdavid.A defensive conscience on that line would be nice, but the primary objective would be to drive a portion of the fanbase completely insane.

    Schadenfreude is the best freude.

    I love Horcoff so would love to see him here. Foot speed remains the issue.

  15. TheGreatMutato (Formerly TheGreatMutato) says:

    I am going to go ahead and dust off my Horcoff jersey. And would you believe that I have a pair of game-worn Horcoff hockey pants that someone got me as a joke? Those are also coming out of storage and I’m wearing them on draft day, I mean Horcoff day, as that is when he’s coming home.

  16. Dicky94 says:

    Was expecting a boring night until I read your post. Now I’m so pumped up I have to go talk Oilers with my buddies over some beers. My wife is mad now but she has no idea what is about to happen next weekend! Can’t wait !

  17. square_wheels says:

    Bad Seed,

    One year on the contract left, someone is going to pay handsomely for that at the deadline. You have a source/quote Seed ?

  18. square_wheels says:

    Pouzar,

    Sure did see him good in those first few games as well, not the heaviest guy but unlike Jultz has the instinct to fight for pucks. Anyone with young kids in hockey, watch this near perfect dman skater, master the feet on the ice principle if your going to play D.

  19. hags437 says:

    This idea has been tossed around the Oilogisphere already but I’m really torn on the Leon for D trade. Let’s face it..he’s not going to be a 1st or 2nd line C on the Oil and if he meets expectations in the near future then he’s not a 3rd line C either. And hey, I’m all for him as a top 6 winger which he might be very comfortable with. But if the Leafs or Coyotes would take Leon for Hanifin, it’s a tempting thought. Can you imagine leaving FLA with the best forward and D man in the draft? That’s a helluva day folks. Or call up Mr Poile and have a chat about a couple of D men they have.Thoughts?

  20. square_wheels says:

    Bad Seed,

    If they are shaking anything, hopefully it’s a young defencemen out of their roster named Shattenkirk or the awesome J.Schwartz.

  21. Bad Seed says:

    hags437,

    My number one target would be OEL. Short of trading McDavid, anyone else would be on the block for him.

  22. Rip Fan Winkle "OilOnslaught" says:

    I want the Oilers to employ good players. Players that produce more than they give up, can skate better because it makes the game beautiful, and make good smart creative plays.

    I don’t want the Oilers to employ overly small long shots who aren’t blazing fast and obscenely talented from the start, people fading or anyone who can’t pull their weight in shot and goal differential. Professional Sports Charity finds a new home.

  23. Lowetide says:

    The thing about Leon is he’s going to kill people with his passing for 15 years. Do we really want to trade him? I’d do it for Hanifin because he’s certain. After that? It’s dicey.

  24. Hammers says:

    Pajamah: We’ll know where his head is at if he humbly accepts the good days, as opposed to releasing a statement about the need for hard times to get to this point. We did not need the last 9 years to get here. We needed as fans, to accept a downturn, and to not have to luck into a generational talent.

    Sorry but millionaires don’t do anything humbly at least not this one . As for downturn it was really 20 years if we’re half honest . At least Katz isn’t Pocklington and won’t sell off his top players for cash . For us old timers we had those early years of excellence before the shit show . Next 10 years if I live that long Ha Ha .

  25. square_wheels says:

    Lowetide,

    And then we’ll turn around and obsessively search for that big heavy C we went over a decade without. Keep Leon, find dman with those other three top 60’pics and let them soak in Jr and Bakersfield.

    Didn’t you coin “find good players, keep good players” ? Don’t be trading the Deutchland Dangler.

  26. Lowetide says:

    square_wheels:
    Lowetide,

    And then we’ll turn around and obsessively search for that big heavy C we went over a decade without. Keep Leon, find dman with those other three top 60’pics and let them soak in Jr and Bakersfield.

    Didn’t you coin “find good players, keep good players” ? Don’t be trading the Deutchland Dangler.

    That was Al Arbour but the point stands.

  27. hags437 says:

    Lowetide,

    Im with you LT…but if Leon stays, where do you see him playing? Has to be top 6 winger no?

  28. hags437 says:

    square_wheels,

    Sorry to be a stuck record guys but where does he play? He won’t be playing as a big C. No room

  29. Lowetide says:

    hags437:
    Lowetide,

    Im with you LT…but if Leon stays, where do you see him playing? Has to be top 6 winger no?

    3L for this season and then 3C when Gordon is dealt (Lander moving down to 4C).

  30. Chris says:

    If you are trading Leon you better be getting a top pairing D man with term back or else its just a horrific trade.

    If Horcoff is coming back I hope it’s as Assistant Coach Shawn Horcoff. I can’t say I ever care to see the moribund remains of once great players toiling away on the fourth line.

  31. Cahoon says:

    I am sooooo stoked to see Slepy in NA. SO stoked!

  32. Pouzar says:

    square_wheels:
    Pouzar,

    Sure did see him good in those first few games as well, not the heaviest guy but unlike Jultz has the instinct to fight for pucks. Anyone with young kids in hockey, watch this near perfect dman skater, master the feet on the ice principle if your going to play D.

    Good call 🙂
    I’ve said before he reminds me of a left handed version Schultz but faster and with the ability to battle for pucks.

  33. hags437 says:

    Pouzar,

    Ability to battle for pucks?? Sooo..nothing like Schultz.

  34. Pretendergast says:

    All i can see is in 2018 Leon being traded in a Tyler Seguin-esque way. We have the top 2, where does Leon fit down the line? Too early to trade him, but too much depth at top end centre long term to keep him when the cap crunch comes (funny how a lottery win makes this a problem). Great problem to have but we already got the guy who sold Seguin for pennies, so if he goes for a high end d, pull the trigger. End pessimistic rant.

  35. Psyche says:

    Lowetide: 3L for this season and then 3C when Gordon is dealt (Lander moving down to 4C).

    As the saying goes, “This all day.” Young Leon will be a terrific addition to the forward group. His puck possession will be very valuable. Trading him for an older established player doesn’t equate for me.

    McDavid, Nuge, Leon, Hall and Eberle – what a sublime group to work with.

  36. Connorrhea says:

    Pretendergast: All i can see is in 2018 Leon being traded in a Tyler Seguin-esque way.

    Pouliot won’t be around forever. To have a player (hopefully – development pending) like Leon play the wing, and maybe take draws against the bigger opponents, will be music – sweet, sweet, music.

    Allows his center to cheat a little more on draws, knowing Leon is backup if he gets kicked out.

  37. Psyche says:

    Pretendergast,

    Why can’t Leon be in the top 6 with Nuge and McJesus? If he is good enough Coach Todd will find a way to get him on the ice with the other best players.

  38. Psyche says:

    I came across this lengthy article on the Oilers and McDavid in the Globe today. Interesting read:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/mcdavid-faces-enormous-pressure-in-edmonton-where-he-is-a-symbol-of-hope/article25038619/

  39. Radiusofnerdature says:

    Sliderule, from last thread … challenge also accepted. I’ve been lurking on this blog for years but never post so hello to all. I enjoy the comments section of this site more than any other hockey site on the internet, you guys are my morning cup of coffee.

    Anyway, back to the nethers, ciao.

  40. hunter1909 says:

    In other news, NHL teams work best when drafted players finally emerge from the minors.

  41. hunter1909 says:

    Derek: I would really enjoy it if Edmonton signed Horcov to a 1 year 1.5 million dollar deal to ride shotgun w/ Hall and Mcdavid.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

  42. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: I love Horcoff so would love to see him here. Foot speed remains the issue.

    As in, there isn’t any.

    Guys, Chiarelli’s got better things to do than indulge MacT’s pet projects.

  43. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide:
    The thing about Leon is he’s going to kill people with his passing for 15 years. Do we really want to trade him? I’d do it for Hanifin because he’s certain. After that? It’s dicey.

    Draft good players, develop good players, keep good players.

  44. square_wheels says:

    Cahoon,

    Sleppy RW or LW at camp? Russians sure love their off wings, wonder what their logic is, as it’s very 180 from how we were taught/forced ?

    Maybe it the preference to grab the puck on the forehand while facing the boards this forcing the D to have to gain position while the winger has his leverage side towards the attacking player.

    I’ve always loved the Russian approach to the game, very nice to watch executed at high levels.

  45. Pouzar says:

    Psyche:
    Pretendergast,

    Why can’t Leon be in the top 6 with Nuge and McJesus? If he is good enough Coach Todd will find a way to get him on the ice with the other best players.

    YES YES YES! RW please.

  46. misfit says:

    I actually see Davidson as a player who might be at the end of the road because McLellan won’t be as familiar with him. He was definitely a favorite among the old guard, but none of those guys (especially on the bench) are around anymore. He’s a guy anyone who is familiar with will cheer like hell for, but to an outsider, he is a dime a dozen player.

  47. hags437 says:

    June 19, 2006. 9 years ago tonight folks. Cue the sad trombone. And now rum

  48. G Money says:

    Pouzar:
    Oesterle is gonna log a ton of minutes in Bakersfield and make Chia take notice. He can move the puck in the “A” and he dragged Ference’s carcass to a 50+ corsi rating in one game. That alone deserves a HOF vote. One of my fav prospects. And as LT said…kid can fly.

    Since training camp last season, Oesterle has been my dark horse pick for ‘distant bell prospect who could become a game changer’.

    He’s got speed to burn.
    He’s got a big brain, you can see the way he processes things (even when he makes rookie mistakes).
    He’s got desire.

    Mix in a wealth of steadily tougher experience in the AHL, plus time in the weight room, and the ingredients are there.

  49. Derek says:

    hunter1909: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    It’s working… 🙂

    Remember when McLellen had 4 excellent centers in Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski and Couture. He mixed and matched and often Joe or Patrick would spend time on the wing. Having 3 really good centers is not a problem. Not at all.

    They were a dominant possession team for quite a few years with a “meh” defense because every forward line had a center that could hold onto the puck for ages, whether he lined up for the face off in the middle or on the wing.

  50. Pouzar says:

    hags437:
    June 19, 2006. 9 years ago tonight folks. Cue the sad trombone. And now rum

    Yup. They lost on my f^ckin birthday.
    *takes a drink*

  51. Pouzar says:

    Derek: It’s working…

    Remember when Mclellen had 4 excellent centers in Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski and Couture.He mixed and matched and often Joe or Patrick would spend time on the wing.Having 3 really good centers is not a problem.Not at all.

    A million times THIS.

  52. hags437 says:

    Pouzar,

    June 19, 2019. That’ll be a better birthday Pouzar

  53. Pouzar says:

    hags437:
    Pouzar,

    June 19, 2019. That’ll be a better birthday Pouzar

    I sure hope so thx

  54. Jaxon says:

    Lowetide: In draft year

    Marchand 68GP, 29-37-66
    Chase 69GP, 17-32-49

    Draft Year:
    Marchand .97 pts/gp *.3*82=24 pts NHLE
    Chase .71 pts/gp x .3 x 82 = 17 pts NHLE

    Draft +1:
    Marchand 57GP, 33-47-80 = 35 pts NHLE
    Chase 70GP, 35-50-85 = 30 pts NHLE

    Marchand outscored Chase in both, but Chase approached Marchand numbers in their draft+1

  55. square_wheels says:

    Pouzar,

    Just poured a couple fingers of Wildturkey in rememberence, that night seered in my memory…..my entire rec team huddled in buddies basement, speechless. It was like all of our dogs died, nobody said anything, we all just stood up and walked out.

    Fond memories of the run though, Pisani heroics, Pronger running shit 30mins a night. Man, we need another Pronger.
    Edit- we need another Roloson

  56. square_wheels says:

    G Money,

    You got it G, let the boy mature on the vine.

  57. Hammers says:

    You never have enough centres . The talk on Leon makes no sense as he may end up number2 in a few years and Nuge maybe the one we ask questions about . Big centres that can both play and use there size to advantage can be invaluable .

  58. Pouzar says:

    square_wheels:
    Pouzar,

    Just poured a couple fingers of Wildturkey in rememberence,that night severed in my memory…..my entire rec team huddled in buddies basement, speechless. It was like all of our dogs died, nobody said anything, we all just stood up and walked out.

    Fond memories of the run though, Pisani heroics, Pronger running shit 30mins a night. Man, we need another Pronger.

    That was an unreal run. 2006 was the last time I was in Alberta. One of the best road trips I ever had. Fond memories all the way around despite the ending.

    Cheers!

  59. Gordies Elbow says:

    Thought of the day. Top 25 under 25, with Connor McBrilliant. My order, your mileage may vary.

    1 – McDavid (Franchise)
    2 – Hall (The Fast and the Furious)
    3 – Hopkins (Witch)
    4 – Draisaitl (Smooth)
    5 – Nurse (Nasty)
    6 – Klefbom (Meatball)
    7 – Schultz (Galton’s whistle)
    8 – Yakupov (Shooter)
    9 – Marincin (Rayban)
    10 – Yakimov (Leroy Brown)
    11 – Lander (Reliable)
    12 – Davidson (Steady)
    13 – Pakarinen (Mad Finn)
    14 – Slepyshev (Slick)
    15 – Musil (Frankie)
    16 – Brossoitt (Denis Lemieux)
    17 – Laurikainen (Wally)
    18 – LaLeggia (Hobey)
    19 – Simpson (not Craig)
    20 – Oesterle (Wheels)
    21 – Chase (ssh0le)
    22 – Pitlick (Spleener)
    23 – Kharia (Stretch)
    24 – Kessey (Gronk)
    25 – Betker (Big Ben)

    HM: – Platzer, Gernat, Moroz

    And this doesn’t take into consideration picks 16, 33, 57, 79, 86, 117, 124, 154, and 184 in what is apparently a very deep draft.

    Wow. That’s alot for Chiarelli, McLellan, and Woodcroft to work with.

    Buckle up.

  60. frjohnk says:

    hags437:
    Pouzar,

    June 19, 2019. That’ll be a better birthday Pouzar

    R they moving the draft date?

  61. Pouzar says:

    11 – Lander (Lenin)

  62. Pouzar says:

    frjohnk: R they moving the draft date?

    *takes bigger drink*

  63. monsterbater4 says:

    Pouzar: *takes bigger drink*

    It’s your birthday Pou, shouldn’t you be blackout drunk by now anyways? If not, you’re doing it wrong.

  64. Gordies Elbow says:

    Pouzar,

    Good call. We need more comrades, like Horcov. He’s equal, but slightly more equal than others…

  65. Pouzar says:

    monsterbater4: It’s your birthday Pou, shouldn’t you be blackout drunk by now anyways? If not, you’re doing it wrong.

    I “should” be but I am tired as hell. Spent my day in the cold and rain running after my kid at the Red River Ex. Thank gord my wife enjoys the rides. I watched and ate mini donuts.
    Tomorrow I get my revenge…golf followed by many many bottles of Lager.

  66. Pretendergast says:

    Psyche:
    Pretendergast,

    Why can’t Leon be in the top 6 with Nuge and McJesus? If he is good enough Coach Todd will find a way to get him on the ice with the other best players.

    Absolutely could work, I just see Leon as such a sublime passer that he needs to be in the middle to

    dish to whomever feels like burying the puck that night. The only one I could see moving over is Nuge

    due to poor faceoffs but hes not crashbang and is incredibly defensively responsible, great centre

    material. Making Leon into Pouliot just seems like a waste of talent, and putting him portside to McDavid

    or Nuge limits his impressive distribution skills.

    It’s nice to have too much talent aint it?

  67. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Pretendergast:

    It’s nice to have too much talent aint it?

    Until you have to pay that talent in a cap system.

    If the Oilers spend all their dough on top 6 forwards while not balancing the roster with TWO pairing D, they won’t win a thing.

    A good GM would start balancing the roster now.

  68. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    There’s a ton of talent in the pipeline and a fist full of draft picks. For the first time since Pocklington sold the soul of the franchise, this team has a solid front office to match. I’m excited to see what a REAL GM and coach can do with the talent pool. So much less pessimism… Here’s looking to better times ahead!

  69. Snowman says:

    Dashingsilverfox: Until you have to pay that talent in a cap system.

    If the Oilers spend all their dough on top 6 forwards while not balancing the roster with TWO pairing D, they won’t win a thing.

    A good GM would start balancing the roster now.

    Better to have too much talent to pay than no talent anywhere don’t you agree? Much easier to balance a roster when you have players of value. Yes you have to pay people, yes you need balance but everyone on Earth knows the Oilers are in a good spot right now to do just that.

  70. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Snowman: Better to have too much talent to pay than no talent anywhere don’t you agree? Much easier to balance a roster when you have players of value. Yes you have to pay people, yes you need balance but everyone on Earth knows the Oilers are in a good spot right now to do just that.

    The Pittsburgh Penguins are the poster child for having a highly paid unbalanced roster and they already have their D.

    I agree the Oilers have a lot of pieces but you can’t keep all of them, pay them and hope to win anything.

    For example, Dean Lombardi has traded 4 former 1st round picks to balance his roster.

    The conventional wisdom here is that you have to hang on to every 1st round pick in hopes they will be great top 6 forwards but no team can balance their roster that way nor can they afford them.

  71. Snowman says:

    Dashingsilverfox,

    I don’t know if its conventional wisdom. I think the general consensus seems to be lets see what you have before you pick who to move. I think everyone has to expect to be giving something up here but I think just as important as moving a piece to fill a hole is moving the right piece.

    I’d rather Chia Pete take his time to figure out who is what before he decides who is gone. I’d love nothing more than for Chia to balance the roster and build a better team even if that means moving someone I love.

  72. Evilas says:

    Bad Seed,

    I have been watching OEL high lights on YouTube tonight….I am obsessed with trading for him and OSing Hamilton….To get Hamilton it would have to be about $8 million I think….

    I am all in for Leon + Schultz + LaLeggia (this could be argued, but all 3 are famous prospects, Arizona might want a pick or two thrown in for good measure, but I would want to hang on to as many as possible in this draft) for OEL and then offer sheeting Hamilton 5 x $8 Million, pick up Lack or Talbot for the 57th pick, Trade Purcell with salary retained for magic beans, Nikitin as well, or a buy-out, I think they will explore a way to trade him first….

    (4) Pouliot – (6) Nuge – (6) Eberle
    (6) Hall – (3.875) CMD – (.925) Slepy
    (.818) Pakarinen – (.988) Lander – (2.5) Yak
    (1.85) Hendo – (3) Gordo – ( .798) Pitlick
    (.725) Klinko

    (5.5) OEL – (8) Hamilton
    (.894) Klefbom – (4.5) Michalek
    (.891) Marincin – (3.625) Fayne
    (3.25) Ference

    (1.15) Lack
    (2.3) Scrivens

    Approximate Salary (66.6 Million) This would be tight, and it is questionable if Michalek would take a 3 x4.5 offer… I think Franson could be had for that though…

    I think this illustrates the value of value contracts (Marincin/Lander/Pakarinen/Slepy, etc). Is this a playoff team, maybe not, but they will be knocking on the door. This is a vastly improved D Corps…

  73. Jaxon says:

    I think LaLeggia will be one to look out for. His last season of NCAA was legitimately impressive.

    Some NHLEs of notable NCAA D in their Draft+3 or final College year if undrafted (ND):
    Matt Carle – 46
    John-Michael Liles – 43
    Brendan Smith – 42
    Justin Schultz – 39
    Jordan Leopold – 37
    Joey LaLeggia – 36
    **Mike Reilly – 36
    Jake Gardiner – 34
    Alex Goligoski – 30
    Torey Krugg (ND) – 30
    Mike Reilly – 27
    Kevin Shattenkirk – 25
    Brad Hunt (ND) – 23
    Jordan Oesterle (ND) – 17
    Ryan McDonagh – 14
    **Reilly matched LaLeggia in his draft+4 year.

  74. monsterbater4 says:

    Late night falling asleep thought: as much as I love Leon, would you consider:

    – trade Leon for 3 or 4 for right to draft hanifin contingent on
    – flipping hanifin and 16 to Boston for Hamilton. Add in chase type of prospect and later picks as necessary.
    – signing Hamilton for hall type contract

    It gets us Hamilton at a lesser cost than an offer sheet and still leaves 2016 draft open. 2015 draft of mcdavid and hamilton is already a slam dunk.

    It gives Boston someone to replace Hamilton in short order while also replenishing their prospect cupboard because they’d have 3 top 16 picks this year.

  75. Gordies Elbow says:

    Jaxon,

    I had LaLeggia 18th in the top 25 under 25.

    All-WCHA Rookie Team 2011–12
    WCHA Rookie of the Year 2011–12
    All-WCHA First Team 2011–12
    All-WCHA Second Team 2012–13
    All-NCHC First Team 2013–14
    AHCA West Second-Team All-American 2013–14
    NCHC All-Tournament Team 2014
    NCAA Ice Hockey National Rookie of the Year
    NCHC Player of the Year
    NCHC Defenseman of the Year
    NCHC Offensive Defenseman of the Year
    Hobey Baker nominee.

    18th.

  76. leadfarmer says:

    Dashingsilverfox,

    The penguins are the poster child for just because you are paying a guy to be a number one goalie doesn’t make him one. That and combined with health issues for their best defenseman is their biggest problem. Oh yeah and trading their first round picks for guys they don’t keep also doesn’t help. James Neal and Niskanen for Goligoski is a pretty good trade, then losing those guys for nothing is a bad trade.

  77. Pretendergast says:

    monsterbater4,

    Good idea, but I dont believe Neely and friends are in the ‘future’ business as much as we Oiler fans have come to embrace it. He wants to win, trading Hamilton for futures does not help him win next year.

    Neely an the owner come across as Hextall-esque, and with Pastrnaks and others success, they may be content to draft when its their turn.

  78. Jaxon says:

    I wonder if they’ll ever consider moving Yakimov to LW. With the future of C looking tied up with McDavid, Nugent-Hopkins, Draisaitl and Lander it might make sense to get his size in the top 12. LW could end up being Hall, Pouliot, Slepyshev and Yakimov. RW could be Eberle, Yakupov, Pakarinen, and Chase or Platzer.

  79. verdad2.0 says:

    At some point this blog will come to terms with the reality that the Oilers must trade one of Eberle or Hall to fix tts defence asap.
    That means offering up Hall asap for OEL.

    Come to terms with that. The centers the Oilers have will carry them. Wingers are a dime a dozen.
    Swedish defenceman are what matters.

    Do it , asap.
    The Oilers make the playoffs with OEL, plus one other free defence from trading #16 draft pick.

    Its obvious.

  80. jm363561 says:

    Derek: Im with you LT…but if Leon stays, where do you see him playing? Has to be top 6 winger no?

    I don’t think anyone is saying its a problem having a ton of centres. Which is better – four great centres and no defence, or three great centres and a top D.

  81. Halfwise says:

    verdad2.0:
    At some point this blog will come to terms with the reality that the Oilers must trade one of Eberle or Hall to fix tts defence asap.
    That means offering up Hall asap for OEL.

    Come to terms with that. The centers the Oilers have will carry them. Wingers are a dime a dozen.
    Swedish defenceman are what matters.

    Do it , asap.
    The Oilers make the playoffs with OEL, plus one other free defence from trading #16 draft pick.

    Its obvious.

    If Swedish D are what matters, why would any team trade one? And why “asap”… is someone’s hair on fire? It’s June, not October.

    What’s the right number of Swedish D? Doesn’t Oscar count? What about Lagesson? Kylington maybe?

    I’m having a bit of trouble following your reasoning, but you get full marks for bombast.

  82. turmoiled says:

    verdad2.0,

    So, what you are saying is that you would replace Hall’s production (Hoping he’s healthy enough and riding shotgun with AHJ) with OEL and the dime a dozen replacement?

    Wouldn’t trading next year’s first (possibly giving them another shot at the local boy AM) + , be enough to get Arizona? Coyotes interested? I would start with this and see what else would be needed.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, SLIDERULE – thanks for the reminder – donation sent.

  83. TheGreatMutato (Formerly TheGreatMutato) says:

    Halfwise,

    But… It’s obvious!!!!

  84. rickithebear says:

    We have 5-6 potential 25G scorers on this team.
    Pouliot 29yr
    Eberle 25yr
    Hall 24yr
    Rnh 22yr
    Yakupov 22yr
    Mcdavid 19yr

    regular occurrence for the 80’s oilers.

  85. GCW_69 says:

    Lowetide:
    The thing about Leon is he’s going to kill people with his passing for 15 years. Do we really want to trade him? I’d do it for Hanifin because he’s certain. After that? It’s dicey.

    Hanifan, Larsson, Jones, Hamilton and Vasileskiy are the only players worth trading Leon for. Otherwise keep the player.

  86. GCW_69 says:

    verdad2.0:
    At some point this blog will come to terms with the reality that the Oilers must trade one of Eberle or Hall to fix tts defence asap.
    That means offering up Hall asap for OEL.

    Come to terms with that. The centers the Oilers have will carry them. Wingers are a dime a dozen.
    Swedish defenceman are what matters.

    Do it , asap.
    The Oilers make the playoffs with OEL, plus one other free defence from trading #16 draft pick.

    Its obvious.

    Or, you pump Yakupov’s tires all season, pray he scores 30 to 35 goals, and take him and his $2.5M contract to market next year and trade him for a defender. Something drastic needs to be done, but it could be next summer if the Oilers are savvy in free agency this summer.

  87. LadiesloveSmid says:

    verdad2.0:
    At some point this blog will come to terms with the reality that the Oilers must trade one of Eberle or Hall to fix tts defence asap.
    That means offering up Hall asap for OEL.

    Come to terms with that. The centers the Oilers have will carry them. Wingers are a dime a dozen.
    Swedish defenceman are what matters.

    Do it , asap.
    The Oilers make the playoffs with OEL, plus one other free defence from trading #16 draft pick.

    Its obvious.

    Taylor Hall, the winger, most certainly is not a dime a dozen. He’s one of the best LWs/forwards in the game.

    McDavid won’t drag Hall to the 2018 Olympics, because he won’t be saddled with a Kunitz. It’ll be the best 1-2 on the same line we’ve seen in EDM since I don’t know when

  88. Rip Fan Winkle "OilOnslaught" says:

    Dashingsilverfox: The Pittsburgh Penguins are the poster child for having a highly paid unbalanced roster and they already have their D.

    I agree the Oilers have a lot of pieces but you can’t keep all of them, pay them and hope to win anything.

    For example, Dean Lombardi has traded 4 former 1st round picks to balance his roster.

    The conventional wisdom here is that you have to hang on to every 1st round pick in hopes they will be great top 6 forwards but no team can balance their roster that way nor can they afford them.

    Drafting BPA means by definition you have to trade players for balance. You take the most talented player (highest value) and cash for what you need.

    It sucks, but having 9 top 6 forwards and 2.5 top 4 defensemen probably won’t work without even talking cap issues.

    Another thing to consider about players is that you actually don’t want 6 forwards and 4 D scoring a lot because you will not be able to keep them. You need an elite core, hopefully the most elite and round out the team with two way players that aren’t slow or stone hands.

    Offense costs money and injuries derail teams especially in the playoffs. Having 4-5 good defense rather than 1-2 elite and little after is a better scenario.

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