OUT OF MY BRAIN ON THE 5.15

We’re one day away from history. Oh I don’t mean actual history, but for this Oilers fan (who would have heard the first whispers in 1971) tomorrow night is a monumental occasion. The Oilers have 10 picks in a deep draft and there’s little doubt the top 20 I post on Sunday will have many names as yet unknown to us. Here’s the current top 20 before the watershed.

OILERS CURRENT TOP 20 PROSPECTS

(Winter ranking in brackets, comments around trade value and wisdom of using them as assets).

  1. (1) C Leon Draisaitl. He’s a keeper. Remember the days without a big C in the system?
  2. (2) D Darnell Nurse. The Oilers future on blue, it’s just a matter of when he arrives.
  3. (4) C Bogdan Yakimov. Big C impressed during TC, hit his stride in final 13  AHL games (6-6-12).
  4. (5) W Iiro Pakarinen. 6.01, 205 winger with grit and skill.
  5. (6) C-R Greg Chase. Gritty forward with offensive ability. Agitator of the first degree.
  6. (9) C Kyle Platzer. Emerged as a genuine NHL prospect in his final junior year. Skill, 2-way ability.
  7. (16) G Laurent Brossoit. Tremendous step forward in one season, .918SP in OKC.
  8. (17) L Anton Slepyshev. Began the KHL season 39GP 5-7-12, then posted 19GP, 10-3-13.
  9. (14) D Joey Laleggia. Quality offensive defenseman at the NCAA level, pro career ahead.
  10. (NR) G Eetu Laurikainen. This signing was badly needed, .933SP in any league is eye-popping.
  11. (7) C Jujhar Khaira. Strong, physical F, shy offensively. First AHL season unimpressive.
  12. (8) D Dillon Simpson. Two-way D made steady progress as a rookie pro.
  13. (29) R Andrew Miler. A really good season has Miller in position to push for an NHL career.
  14. (10) R Tyler Pitlick. Injuries have derailed him, still has a chance, time running out.
  15. (15) D William Lagesson. Interesting D with a reputation for physical play and coverage skills.
  16. (22) D Jordan Oesterle. Speed and skill make him a great, if chaotic, bet.
  17. (21) D Brandon Davidson. Played well with NHL chance, should get another. Depth D.
  18. (20) D Brad Hunt. Offensive D impact player in the AHL. Of possible use in NHL.
  19. (23) D David Musil Effective shut down blue save for the speed, which is an important element.
  20. (24) G Zach Nagelvoort (13GP, 2.78 .904 NCAA) Big step back from .929 in draft season.

After the team adds McDavid, they should just keep drafting BPA. Will they? Until we see evidence I suspect it’s probably best to assume some of those 10 picks will be going to big men—what we hope for is that these big men can also play and are not drafted out of order. Plus, let’s remember that if they club grabs a Cam Abney or Mitch Moroz as a reach pick, ripping the player is very bad form.

If they are drafting for need, expect to see a goalie, at least one defenseman and a winger selected. If Edmonton goes McDavid, Svechnikov, Dermott, Vladar and then a defenseman, it might be difficult to suss out BPA/need. It’s a cool draft that way. I think we’ll know Saturday morning about Bob Green, Scott Howson and how closely they paid attention to the draft model provided by the analytics side of the company.

A reminder: Analytics reigned during the 2013 draft, reflected by the No. 2, 3, 5, 6 and 8 names on the above list. 2014? Not so much, although the weakness of the list (pre-draft) means Zach Nagelvoort joins Leon and William Lagesson until Sunday.

There’s a real chance Connor McDavid will be No. 1 on that list Sunday, making it one of the very strongest top 20 in the history of the Oilers. I don’t think that’s hyperbole, and save for the 1980 summer edition (Glenn Anderson, Paul Coffey, Jari Kurri, Andy Moog, Charlie Huddy, Walt Poddubny) the list that might include McDavid, Svechnikov, Draisaitl and Nurse on Sunday night would have to right up the all-time. What a fantastic time to be an Oilers fan. If you made it through death valley and came out the other side, you know more darkness than any fan should have to endure.

Boston is in a lot of trouble right now, losing Hamilton could contribute to a harmful free fall. I don’t think Hamilton gets traded, but have mentioned several times that an offer sheet makes sense. He’s a perfect fit for Edmonton. It DOES have mammoth impact on the next two drafts, however. Edmonton owes a second-round pick to Boston (Chiarelli) and a third to San Jose (McLellan) so an offer sheet effectively wipes out all but the 2017 first-round pick for the Oilers. The McDavid cluster would be impacted greatly.

CHIARELLI’S LIST

  1. Draft McDavid (and sign him)
  2. Find a quality goalie option (this is the Talbot/Lehner item)
  3. Acquire a legit top pairing blue (as always, clear as mud days before bullets fly. Dougie Hamilton=perfect fit)
  4. Sign a more offensive two-way F (I’m hoping for Soderberg)
  5. Ignore MacT re: Marincin (Or trade Marincin for real value and not a damn pick)

I’m posting this because there’s a chance we see one of the items crossed off today (goalie). Seems to me the Rangers will want to have their picks settled for tomorrow in case they want to trade up (if they acquire No. 33, NYR could deal that pick and their own—No. 59—in an effort to get inside the first round).

NHL SCHEDULE IS OUT

It is here. Oilers go from rarely being on national television to being a regular. Suspect that is the future of the team, with McDavid, a new building and other things arriving.

What do you think? I’m thrilled for something new, although do love the current look. In the long history of the team, the only threads I didn’t like were late oughts form-fitting weird lines gear. I think this looks great!

lane3

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning as we get set for CFL season and the NHL draft/free agency craziness. 10 this morning, TSN1260:

  • Dennis King, Oilogosphere Icon. NHL Awards (lordy), Oilers draft and trades and we’ll try to get to some baseball.
  • Dean  Millard, TSN1260. Oilers at the draft and some hidden gems.
  • Corey Pronman, ESPN. We’ll drill down on picks No. 16 and No. 33.
  • Rod Pedersen, Sportscage. Roughriders have improved depth at QB, what about that O-line?

10-1260 on text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon! ONE more sleep!

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  1. Hammers says:

    russ99:
    Hammers,

    The draft is broadcast on cable channel NBC Sports Network in the U.S. if you’re in an NHL city, where you’re staying could carry that channel or you could find a local bar that’s showing the broadcast.

    Very much appreciated . Back on the road . Thanks
    For U.S.-based radio coverage, I found this info:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=532733

  2. Masamax says:

    Doug McLachlan,

    Doug McLachlan,

    The revenue side is actually pretty appalling for the Coyotes; based on their own numbers, the Coyotes have recieved more money from the CoG since 2012 than from attendance.

    As for the schedule, there is no doubt that the NHL has the ability to retune the schedule as deep as July based on court filings during the Coyotes first bankruptcy. However, practically speaking, things get more complicated for relocation past July 1. It really depends how deep into plan B the NHL is. For all we know, the Coyotes could already be sold to Paul Allen or another new owner, in principle. I think Coyotes fans can breathe easy for at least another season if we go past July 1 without some sort of sale though. The entire season will probably be overshadowed by this legal fight though.

    Another interesting tidbit- the Coyotes have to spend $14M just to reach the cap floor for next season.

  3. VanOil says:

    Quiet Thursday morning not much news going on, yet 200+ posts. McDavid effect woooooooooooot (my phone now auto corrects to woooooooooooot, another McDavid effect)

  4. Woodguy says:

    Masamax,

    I also read that the current ownership group bought with a the intention of flipping it.

    When the deal came down with Glendale the NHL had the moving trucks ready to take the team to Portland or Seattle (Key arena), but the deal got done for the 15MM so IE got the team.

    Interesting stuff.

  5. Doug McLachlan says:

    Kermodoil: Bieksa only has 1 years left on his deal. His AAV is $4.6 mill. but his cost is actually $2.6M.Anderson is not worth the #16 pick. I would rather sign a FA goalie instead. #16 has the potential to be a great pick.

    Sounds like Bieksa would be an excellent Coyote – assuming he is prepared to waive his NMC to frolic in the desert until the trade deadline. I’m sure there would be a promise to make every effort to flip him and his contract to a contender.

  6. theres oil in virginia says:

    verdad2.0:
    So much time has been wasted on this board and others on the issues of the Oilers prioritizing the acquistions of goalier this off-season.
    It is insane to elevate Talbot above any of the other available cheaper free agent goalies. He has no real track record to justify trading assets for him when other viable free agents can obtained easily this summer.
    No one can say Talbot is better than Ramo or Enroth. Impossible to make that case.
    So stop obsessiong about Talbot or Lehner.
    If Chiarelli wasted on assets on goalie acquisition we will quickly know what a blunderer he is too.

    The real decision for Chiarelli is about the 16th pick. How can he trade it for a real functional defenseman?
    The 16 th pick needs to used for that purpose.
    Lowetide no one who has suffreed as an Oiler fan for a decade cares about how deep this draft is Too much patience has nearly killed this franchise. No more prospects past MacDavid. Use the pick for a trade for a real defenceman.

    Next, offer sheet Hamiltion at the extreme end. Again, the picks used for compensation will likely be as worthless as all the picks the Oilers accumulated this last decade via trade for real players.
    Getting Hamilton actually allows the OIlers to “steal a march” to the playoffs and beyond.

    Further, really consider putting Hall in play.At his core, he has yet to show he can play intelligent responsible hockey. But he has value. OIEL should be the target. At the very least Chiarelli must press for that trade to happen.

    But the Oilers can improve without it. But lets not think that Hall or Eberle are inviolate parts of the core. Both are flawed and replacable.Center and defense are what matter.

    Apart, from getting a goalie, the Oilers should count on getting nothing via free agency. Trade and offer sheets give you certainty. Oilers have always been humiliated in free agcy. That won’t change until the team starts to seriously win. That won’t happen if the waste time with more “prospects” that are of uncertain distant value.

    This is the most terriblest post I’ve ever read here. Ever. Today.

  7. Woodguy says:

    Hammers:

    Not only does NBCSN have the draft, but they hired the whole TSN crew to do it, including the Bobfather.

    Nice to have an alternative to Kipper and Doug McLean braying about gritensity to each other.

  8. Doug McLachlan says:

    Masamax,

    Well they don’t actually have to spend $14 million – they just need to get their cap total up that high.

    Bieksa has cap hit of $4.6M but a salary of $2.5M

    Savard has a cap hit over $4M but a salary of $575K.

    Smarter people than I probably can rattle off a host of other such future Coyotes.

  9. Masamax says:

    Woodguy,

    It is really unclear what the intentions of the current ownership group are, but as you mention, we have hints. For one, the original 5 year out clause was put in place thanks to the pressure of Fortress, the people who originally loaned them the money. When Barroway took ‘majority’ ownership, it allowed the owners access to the NHL’s LoC to pay that loan off, yet when asked why the out clause was retained, LeBlanc simply replied that investors needed a safety net, referring one suspects, to Barroway being an investor interested mostly in the flipping. LeBlanc himself strikes me as someone who enjoys owning a sports team, so my suspicion is his interest in the purchase was mostly the prestige. However, you are correct that a lot of evidence indicates that the current group has a long term plan of moving the team, which likely influenced the CoG’s decision to nullify this contract. It’s one thing to pay $15M a year to finance a team that might bring in economic activity, but it’s quite another to basically finance the operating losses of an organization intent on selling to the highest bidder.

    Doug McLachlan:
    Masamax,

    Well they don’t actually have to spend $14 million – they just need to get their cap total up that high.

    Bieksa has cap hit of $4.6M but a salary of $2.5M

    Savard has a cap hit over $4M but a salary of $575K.

    Smarter people than I probably can rattle off a host of other such future Coyotes.

    True. To note though, I don’t think Savard is tradable, as he is on LTIR, and you can’t trade someone on that list IIRC. But there are contracts they could pull in. The reality is though that if they are filling out their roster with high cap low salary castaways, it only accelerates the relocation rumours and definitely places a great deal of suspicion on the current ownership group’s ability to sustain the team financially.

  10. Connorrhea says:

    Doug McLachlan: other such future Coyotes.

    I wonder if Hextall would/could consider trading Pronger’s contract. $5M cap/$500k salary.

    He was pretty close with Philly after his injury, but now works for the NHL – no?

    Edit: Hextall would need to move other salary as well, because Pronger will be needed on LTIR to get them compliant in the fall.

  11. Woodguy says:

    @Avalanche: BREAKING: The #Avs have acquired Carl Soderberg from the @NHLBruins.

    MORE: http://bit.ly/1e63TP6 pic.twitter.com/hFE4gKi5IB

    One would imagine they got the go ahead from Soderberg on a contract.

    Good get for them.

    They need Dmen badly, but I think ROR is going to get them one.

  12. Woodguy says:

    Masamax:
    Woodguy,

    It is really unclear what the intentions of the current ownership group are, but as you mention, we have hints. For one, the original 5 year out clause was put in place thanks to the pressure of Fortress, the people who originally loaned them the money. When Barroway took ‘majority’ ownership, it allowed the owners access to the NHL’s LoC to pay that loan off, yet when asked why the out clause was retained, LeBlanc simply replied that investors needed a safety net, referring one suspects, to Barroway being an investor interested mostly in the flipping. LeBlanc himself strikes me as someone who enjoys owning a sports team, so my suspicion is his interest in the purchase was mostly the prestige. However, you are correct that a lot of evidence indicates that the current group has a long term plan of moving the team, which likely influenced the CoG’s decision to nullify this contract. It’s one thing to pay $15M a year to finance a team that might bring in economic activity, but it’s quite another to basically finance the operating losses of an organization intent on selling to the highest bidder.

    True. To note though, I don’t think Savard is tradable, as he is on LTIR, and you can’t trade someone on that list IIRC. But there are contracts they could pull in. The reality is though that if they are filling out their roster with high cap low salary castaways, it only accelerates the relocation rumours and definitely places a great deal of suspicion on the current ownership group’s ability to sustain the team financially.

    Players on LTIR can be traded if both teams acknowledge LTIR.

    Horton to the Leafs is the latest example.

    They fixed this in the last CBA.

  13. spoiler says:

    Speaking of legalities…

    Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN · 5h5 hours ago
    Update on Stoll case: His felony drug possession charge has been dismissed. Reduced to two misdemeanors #LAK

  14. vinotintazo says:

    Woodguy:
    @Avalanche: BREAKING: The #Avs have acquired Carl Soderberg from the @NHLBruins.

    MORE: http://bit.ly/1e63TP6 pic.twitter.com/hFE4gKi5IB

    One would imagine they got the go ahead from Soderberg on a contract.

    Good get for them.

    They need Dmen badly, but I think ROR is going to get them one.

    Well, there goes my projected Roster 🙁

  15. vinotintazo says:

    maybe we can get frolik.

  16. Connorrhea says:

    Woodguy: Good get for them.

    Might as well go for a Soder!

  17. Магия 10 says:

    Woodguy: I just can’t see them going to 33 teams right away.

    I can see them adding Vegas and Que and moving the Yotes.

    Given the lack of a building in SEA I see them adding 2 more teams 3+ years after Vegas and Que.

    We’re both talking about 32 teams. The 3rd city is the relocation deal. Can’t see that going for 8 figures less than the other 2.

  18. Loyal2theoil says:

    Avs acquire Soderbergs rights for a 6th

  19. Marc says:

    Woodguy:
    @Avalanche: BREAKING: The #Avs have acquired Carl Soderberg from the @NHLBruins.

    MORE: http://bit.ly/1e63TP6 pic.twitter.com/hFE4gKi5IB

    One would imagine they got the go ahead from Soderberg on a contract.

    Good get for them.

    They need Dmen badly, but I think ROR is going to get them one.

    So Colorado traded a pick for the right to talk to a player they can already talk to, and the exclusive rights to player that can talk to 29 other teams?

    Just when you think you have got all the answers, Colorado changes the question!

  20. Lowetide says:

    That’s crazy! I understand doing that for Nikitin, but Soderberg? Nuts!

  21. Soup Fascist says:

    Would think structure is is place for a deal for ROR if the Avs are moving on Soderberg. Part of package to Az for 3rd overall???

  22. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: That’s crazy!

    If Toby Peterson were a GM, he’d be Joe Sakic.

  23. Магия 10 says:

    maybe they are paying to execute on a verbal deal early.

  24. vinotintazo says:

    Lowetide:
    That’s crazy! I understand doing that for Nikitin, but Soderberg? Nuts!

    can you elaborate? lol

  25. RexLibris says:

    I imagine this call going thus:

    Sakic: Hey Don, we’re interested in getting Soderberg’s neg rights. What do you say?

    Sweeney: Um, you mean my pending UFA Carl Soderberg? That Soderberg?

    Sakic: Yeah. How’s a 7th rounder sound?

    Sweeney: *giggle* uh, Joe, I’m going to have to press you for a 6th on that one, mm’kay?

    Sakic: Done. I’ll send you the paperwork.

    Sweeney: *high-gives Neely who was listening on speakerphone*

  26. kinger_OIL says:

    So does that mean I don’t have to read another LT post that includes: “…and with soderberg on the roster…” No worries: Nuge is going the gym this summer, he’s going to come back looking like Mr. Hockey: http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/vintage-gordie-howe-photo-shows-off-his-amazing-physique/

  27. Woodguy says:

    Магия 10: We’re both talking about 32 teams. The 3rd city is the relocation deal. Can’t see that going for 8 figures less than the other 2.

    When it’s bleeding $$$ and the owners have lost appetite to cover the losses it does.

  28. Woodguy says:

    Ok, you are Chia.

    Snow calls you up and offers Griffin Reinhart for the 16th.

    What do you say?

    Remember he’s RH.

  29. Acumen says:

    Woodguy:
    Ok, you are Chia.

    Snow calls you up and offers Griffin Reinhart for the 16th.

    What do you say?

    Remember he’s RH.

    No he isn’t, and no I don’t.

    Source: a quick Google image search.

  30. Магия 10 says:

    Woodguy: When it’s bleeding $$$ and the owners have lost appetite to cover the losses it does.

    WG, So the bidding is done and you’ve got 3 or more proposals in hand in for 2 new assets. You recently helped set someone to try to flip a better asset, but they can’t pay court costs or make payroll. You wouldn’t offer to take it off their hands and bump the price up on the old asset to match the other 2?

  31. Lowetide says:

    Woodguy:
    Ok, you are Chia.

    Snow calls you up and offers Griffin Reinhart for the 16th.

    What do you say?

    Remember he’s RH.

    Griffin Reinhart is lefthanded.

  32. Pajamah says:

    Woodguy:
    Ok, you are Chia.

    Snow calls you up and offers Griffin Reinhart for the 16th.

    What do you say?

    Remember he’s RH.

    Would be hard to say no.

  33. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide: Griffin Reinhart is lefthanded.

    Fack

  34. Магия 10 says:

    Woodguy: Fack

    So the deal is all off then. 😉

  35. Woodguy says:

    Магия 10: WG, So the bidding is done and you’ve got 3 or more proposals in hand in for 2 new assets. You recently helped set someone to try to flip a better asset, but they can’t pay court costs or make payroll. You wouldn’t offer to take it off their hands and bump the price up on the old asset to match the other 2?

    I can’t screw with my expansion money and whoever takes the Yotes knows that.

  36. Dashingsilverfox says:

    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 25m25 minutes ago

    Avs and Soderberg’s agent JP Barry have already begun contract talks

  37. Visually better says:
  38. Pouzar says:

    Could this day be any more more boring?

  39. turmoiled says:

    Visually better,

    OH, that’s funny!

  40. Магия 10 says:

    Pouzar:
    Could this day be any more more boring?

    What with all of the promised G and coach hires?

    EDIT:

    Oilers President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Peter Chiarelli will address the media on Friday morning at 8:00 a.m. MDT. Oilers fans can watch this LIVE right here on edmontonoilers.com and on the Oilers Mobile App at that time.

    looks like a coaching announcement. bonus if he actually can work in a goaler announcement.

  41. Магия 10 says:

    Магия 10:
    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun54s55 seconds ago
    Lightning GM Steve Yzerman says he hopes to chat with pending UFA Brenden Morrow in the next week or so regarding his future

    Or so? That’s so pending UFA.

  42. godot10 says:

    Yakupov and Nikitin for Craig Anderson and Jared Cowan actually makes a lot of sense for both teams.

  43. misfit says:

    Cowan for Nikitin is giving up a one year cap anchor for a slightly cheaper 2 year cap anchor.

    Yakupov for Anderson is just bad value, and I like Anderson.

  44. John Chambers says:

    godot10:
    Yakupov and Nikitin for Craig Anderson and Jared Cowan actually makes a lot of sense for both teams.

    You mean where Edmonton gives up a player with a 15-year career ahead of him and a 1-year boat anchor, for a 2-year boat anchor and a good goalie whose tread is wearing out?

    Agree to disagree.

  45. Visually better says:

    John Chambers: You mean where Edmonton gives up a player with a 15-year career ahead of him and a 1-year boat anchor, for a 2-year boat anchor and a good goalie whose tread is wearing out?

    Agree to disagree.

  46. Ducey says:

    godot10:
    Yakupov and Nikitin for Craig Anderson and Jared Cowan actually makes a lot of sense for both teams.

    Yeah, both Ottawa and the Senators

  47. Woodguy says:

    godot10:
    Yakupov and Nikitin for Craig Anderson and Jared Cowan actually makes a lot of sense for both teams.

    Cowen is below replacement and expensive. While I like Anderson he is old and injury prone.

    Doesn’t make sense for the Oilers.

    Cowen hasn’t been the same since hip surgery.

    Another promising career derailed by injuries.

    NHL is a bitch.

  48. Woodguy says:

    misfit:
    Cowan for Nikitin is giving up a one year cap anchor for a slightly cheaper 2 year cap anchor.

    Yakupov for Anderson is just bad value, and I like Anderson.

    Truth

  49. Woodguy says:

    John Chambers: You mean where Edmonton gives up a player with a 15-year career ahead of him and a 1-year boat anchor, for a 2-year boat anchor and a good goalie whose tread is wearing out?

    Agree to disagree.

    You can disagree to disagree too.

  50. LoDog says:

    So can someone explain why the AVs would trade for Soderberg when they are already free to negotiate with them.

    His agent can still work with other teams if he wanted, correct?

  51. 10W30 says:

    Cant believe Mact Sends a 3rd round pick to Columbus for Nikitin rights when Don Sweeny can send Soderburgs rights to Avs for 6th round pick

    Edit NM it was a 5th

  52. Doug McLachlan says:

    godot10: Yakupov and Nikitin for Craig Anderson and Jared Cowan actually makes a lot of sense for both teams.

    No. It doesn’t, IMHO.

    Cowen makes $3.1M for two more years. The Sens are close to the cap and would love to move him as he has not panned out. Maybe he finds his game, he’s still young, but this is a dump.

    Anderson is 34 years old and his $4.2M contract is for 3 more years. We have seen the best of Anderson, in my view.

    I get that Nikitin looks bad by eye and by math but his contract is for only this year. At worst, the anchor plays out the season on the bottom pair and who knows maybe he looks better under McLellan and can be flipped for a Foreman Grill at the trade deadline.

    Yakupov, for all his shortcomings, is on a two-year value contract. If you are going to trade him (and I am not advocating doing so because I see a top-line winger that has been horribly mishandled by MacT and Eakins) you don’t trade him when his value is at a low. Give him boatloads of PP opportunities with McDavid loading his cannon and watch his trade value rise.

    Even if you don’t think much of Yakupov, you have to see this as suspect asset management.

  53. theres oil in virginia says:

    verdad2.0:
    Woodguy,

    Would you not trade either one of them straight up for OEL if Arizona would make the trade?
    That is the real question.

    Hall and Eberle are trash! I’d trade either of them straight up for OEL! He’s trash too.

  54. Connorrhea says:

    LoDog: So can someone explain why the AVs would trade for Soderberg when they are already free to negotiate with them.

    They wanted certainty before going to market with RoR in search of a dman.

    They can have him signed by tonight if things go well. They did talk to him early on in the UFA talking period.

    Not as much chance to have other teams drive up the price before UFA signing window.

    It’s all pretty thin, but so was Boston’s 6th round pick, which is what the moved (purportedly).

  55. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Pouzar:
    Could this day be any more more boring?

    I wrote an exciting post on Adam McQuaid to liven things up.

    There, doesn’t that get your pulse pulsating?

  56. Магия 10 says:

    godot10:
    Yakupov and Nikitin for Craig Anderson and Jared Cowan actually makes a lot of sense for both teams.

    How kind of them. After I stopped laughing I’d check to see if they’ll take 16 for Lazar (no matter which hand he holds the stick with).

  57. 10W30 says:

    godot10,

    Ya I’m not for the idea of trading Yak and a bad contract for an aging goalie and a bad contract

    Yak should be for a D or G entering their prime

  58. Магия 10 says:

    Bruce McCurdy: I wrote an exciting post on <h ref=”http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2015/06/25/report-edmonton-oilers-interviewing-pending-ufa-adam-mcquaid-of-boston-bruins/“Adam McQuaid to liven things up.

    There, doesn’t that get your pulse pulsating?

    only when your links link,

    edit: better

  59. McSorley33 says:

    Re: McQuaid

    In order to take the Oilers GM job are you required to sign a legal waiver saying you will try to obtain 3rd pairing d-man – every year?

  60. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Магия 10: only when your links link,

    Well, I was so excited I messed that part up. Now edited.

    Bruce McCurdy: I wrote an exciting post on Adam McQuaid to liven things up.

    There, doesn’t that get your pulse pulsating?

  61. Pouzar says:

    Bruce McCurdy: I wrote an exciting post on Adam McQuaid to liven things up.

    There, doesn’t that get your pulse pulsating?

    Asst coaches, Buyers market on goalies, #3 overall in play…..s’all VOODOO…NHL GMs suck!

    Then the whole Soderberg thing and LT won’t even talk to us now.

    SERENITY NOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!

  62. Woodguy says:

    theres oil in virginia: Hall and Eberle are trash!I’d trade either of them straight up for OEL!He’s trash too.

    REPLACEABLE PLAYERS FOR A STAR!!!

    BECAUSE I SAID SO!!

  63. Woodguy says:

    Bruce McCurdy: I wrote an exciting post on Adam McQuaid to liven things up.

    There, doesn’t that get your pulse pulsating?

    Be still my beating heart.

  64. theres oil in virginia says:

    Tire Fire: Whoah.

    LT: how much are we allowed to swear on here?

    This is the most bestest post I’ve ever read here. Ever. Today.

  65. Магия 10 says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Well, I was so excited I messed that part up. Now edited.

    Pretty exciting when you get a faint object in your scope.

  66. Магия 10 says:

    McSorley33:
    Re: McQuaid

    In order to take the Oilers GM job are you required to sign a legal waiver saying you will try to obtain 3rd pairing d-man – every year?

    only for the first two pairings. you’re required to aim lower after that.

  67. Pouzar says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Is this where I break out the “what golf ball do you play?” poll to liven things up?

  68. Soup Fascist says:

    godot10: Yakupov and Nikitin for Craig Anderson and Jared Cowan actually makes a lot of sense for both teams.

    Cowan may be the ONE player in the league with less mobility than Nikitin. 21 year old Yak @ a 2 .5MM Cap hit for a serviceable 34 year old goatender.

    Thank Christ, Craig is NOT on it.

  69. Магия 10 says:

    Pouzar:
    Bruce McCurdy,

    Is this where I break out the “what golf ball do you play?” poll to liven things up?

    When even trading Yak again fails it’s down to this:

    “How ’bout this? “Killing Puppies — It Doesn’t Bother Me” … That’s me, Frank Noland, and I LIKE dead puppies! Frankly, I’m totally in favor of using federally supported municipal bonds to pay for forced busing of Soviet Communists to come into your homes to kill your puppies! Give me a call, won’t you? The lines are open.”

  70. theres oil in virginia says:

    Richard S.S.: Does anyone remember what happened when Scrivens tried to play the puck? I’m told and have heard it was not pretty.

    Ever been to the circus? That’s usually fun. This was not.

    Is it fixable? I don’t know.

  71. Pouzar says:

    Магия 10: How ’bout this? “Killing Puppies — It Doesn’t Bother Me” … That’s me, Frank Noland

    How ’bout “Suicide — Fun for the Elderly”?

  72. Магия 10 says:

    Getting ridding of the ozone layer should do the job.

    Time to go home Frank.

  73. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Магия 10: Pretty exciting when you get a faint object in your scope.

    I got an obscure object named McQuaid 54 in my scope recently, concluded “super massive but exceedingly distant”.

  74. Soup Fascist says:

    Marc: So Colorado traded a pick for the right to talk to a player they can already talk to, and the exclusive rights to player that can talk to 29 other teams?Just when you think you have got all the answers, Colorado changes the question!

    Ability to negotiate and sign early allows:

    1. Avs to sign Soderberg to a contract before draft
    2. Frees up ROR for trade before tomorrow night
    3. O’Reilly + 2015 10th OV + ? to AZ for #3 OV
    4. Avs get future stud D-man they desparately need in Hanafin
    5. ‘Yotes (whose defacto #1C right now is … Gulp …Sam Gagner) gain two very good C in ROR and Barzal or Zacha (one of whom should be around at 10)

  75. SwedishPoster says:

    So it’s the night before Christmas.

    I’ve been crunching a lot of numbers of late but I thought I’d give you guys my armchair scouting on some of the swedes in this draft based mainly on my personally developed eye test system.

    I’ll start with the D, fairly positive reviews across the board but I like most of these guys as prospects, I especially think a lot of them are projected to go in spots where they are very good value. Every player won’t turn into Lidström but I think the majority of them have a good chance to become solid NHLers.

    Oliver Kylington-anyone who has been paying attention knows that I’m high on him. His numbers are in the realm of the elite guys, OEL, Erik Karlsson, Hedman, out of sweden. His offense is high end, anyone saying anything different hasn’t been watching the kid. His skating is among the best if not the best in the draft, but he also has great hands, can shoot the puck and is a great passer with good vision. I know there’s been other claims out there and I think they come from his performance in the last two international tournaments which wasn’t great.There’s also been scouts claiming he lacks hockey sense, imo that’s not correct, he tries to do too much with the puck and is still learning what works and what doesn’t against pro players. In my experience a lot of the more skilled guys try to do too much when coming out of junior, Peter Forsberg was like that, Erik Karlsson certainly was like that, so prone to mistakes as a teenager, John Klingberg also needed some time to figure out what he could get away with.
    His defensive game needs work but it’s not nearly as awful as has been suggested, last season, at 16, he played 32 games in the SHL and got the chance in 12 games when his team had a deep playoff run, he just wouldn’t have gotten ice time if he was a mess defensively, I mean it’s not like his offensive numbers while great for a 16 year old were at a level that would warrant toi despite huge defensive shortcomings.
    And about character. He has Johnny Oduya as a mentor, a guy who’s built an NHL career out of character and defensive awareness, I don’t see how you’d be laissez faire about your hockey career with him as a mentor.
    I’m sure he wasn’t too happy with the ice time he got with Färjestad, but imo he wasn’t wrong, at the start of the season he got 17-18 mins a night but both him and the team struggled out of the gate and his ice time was cut already 3-4 games in which tends to happen to young players when the team struggles, the coach puts his trust in the veterans, in his last few games he only played for about 6 minutes a night, this despite him starting to find his game, for the first 10 games he didn’t register a point, but in the last 8 he had 5 points despite ice time below 10 min most nights and usually around 6 minutes. His average toi with Färjestad was 11:48 and still he managed to put up 0.28 PPG as a 17 year old in the SHL. He wasn’t the only one to clash with the head coach who eventually got fired.

    When I watch him play he screams elite talent, there’s still a rawness to his game and he’s still physically and mentally immature but there’s one hell of a talent here. I don’t understand how he can drop as far as he has on some lists. I think the scouts are overthinking things and forget the majority of his games the last two seasons have been against fully grown professional hockey players despite being a skinny kid and his held his own and at times far beyond that.

    There’s a player here. I’ve said it before I’m willing to bet a bottle of 18 year old Lagavulin that Kylington will be one of the top 5 D out of this draft in five years. And if I lose I will personally fly from Sweden to Edmonton and deliver that fine bottle of whiskey outside of Rogers Arena at the first home game of the 20/21 season..

    I won’t go on as long for the rest.

    Jacob Larsson-I like him. Typical swedish defenceman with great skating, good first pass, solid defensive game, some untapped offensive potential. He’s a little Klefbomesque, not as physically strong but pretty similar style.Imo he’s the second best D out of Sweden.

    Gabriel Karlsson-6’4 D who’s building some hype late in the season with a strong few games with Linköping in the SHL. Defensively strong, makes the simple play, good skater which is intriguing. No offense at all and a bit dodgy with the puck makes me question his upside. I’m not that high on him tbh.

    Rasmus Andersson-He’s had one hell of a rookie season in the Q. Great puckhandling and hockey sense, great shot, better skater than he’s given credit for. Reminds me slightly of Shea Weber. Great frame, built like a wrestler, there’s been some conditioning issues but rumour is that he’s improved on that in Canada. Undervalued in the draft rankings.

    Gustav Bouramman-Another kid with a great rookie season, great skater with an exceptional hockey mind, came out of left field as he wasn’t a regular on the U20 team last season. Late bloomer who I’ve seen as low as 5th-6th round in some mocks. In my world he’s a steal in the third.

    Jesper Lindgren-Highly skilled kid, physically underdeveloped but with great vision and skating, his passing is sublime. Everyone mentions how much he looks like Erik Karlsson and it’s true in his skating style and passing game though he doesn’t have Karlssons ability to skate up ice, beat his opponent 1on1 and than blast home the big shot. Not the same shooting and scoring ability at all, sometimes he rerminds me more of Duncan Keith tbh. High praise for a kid who still lacks the physique and toughness to take the next step but he has great upside, boom/bust player. Funnily enough he has the exact same birthday as Kylington, the two guys out of Sweden drawing Erik Karlsson comparisons are born on the same day, how about that.

    Sebastian Aho-Should have gotten drafted last season. Sometimes I think the NHL scouts are complete morons. Smart as hell, great passing game, undersized but still handles guys much bigger than him. I understand he’s not your prototypical NHL D but in the mid-late rounds, come on.

    Lucas Carlsson-A bit forgotten even here in sweden. Player who goes about his business, making smart plays and battling hard. Some skill, good skater. I think there’s potential here that hasn’t quite surfaced. Would be a nice late round pick up.

    Ok, got to go, I’m up early tomorrow to fly Stockholm-LA, during the draft I’ll be on a plane between NY and LA. I’ll try to find some time to write about forwards and goalies. If not I’ll see you in McDavid dreamland after the draft.

  76. Магия 10 says:

    Soup Fascist: Ability to negotiate and sign early allows:

    1.Avs to sign Soderberg to a contract before draft
    2.Frees up ROR for trade before tomorrow night
    3.O’Reilly + 2015 10th OV + ?toAZ for #3 OV
    4. Avs get future stud D-man they desparately need in Hanafin
    5. ‘Yotes (whose defacto #1C right now is … Gulp …Sam Gagner)gain two very good C in ROR and Barzal or Zacha (one of whom should be around at 10)

    figured it was to execute quicker. backstopping a draft day trade is even a better reason than not giving a verbal deal a week to die.

  77. Soup Fascist says:

    Магия 10: figured it was to execute quicker. backstopping a draft day trade is even a better reason than not giving a verbal deal a week to die.

    Not sure it plays out exactly like that but both teams address issues and the fact the Soderberg thing played out in an expedient fashion as it did leads me to believe Avs draft picks are moving somewhere. Some chatter about ‘Yotes / Avs and it DOES seem to fit.

  78. theres oil in virginia says:

    Bruce McCurdy: There, doesn’t that get your pulse pulsating?

    Is that like e to the power of e?

  79. Soup Fascist says:

    SwedishPoster,

    Sounds like Kylington may have the tools to be a DEADLY 3 on 3 guy down the road.

    How many points in the standings does that add up to given the new OT format?

    No worry, I am sure we fill fare well in OT this year against the Keiths, Doughtys, Karlssons et al in the league when we role out Schultz for the first OT shift and ….. er …. there likely won’t be a 2nd shift. OY.

  80. Магия 10 says:

    theres oil in virginia: Is that like e to the power of e?

    more like e to the i * pi

  81. theres oil in virginia says:

    Магия 10: more like e to the i * pi

    That sounds very complex.

  82. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Магия 10: more like e to the i * pi

    minus 1

  83. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Back on topic, the extraodinary mathematician who came up with e to the i * pi = -1 was none other than Leonhard Euler (pron. “Oiler”). An even more beautiful version of the formula is the zero-sum game:

    (e^^ i * pi) + 1 = 0

    …containing 5 of the most fundmental values in all of mathematics.

    Euler was kinda like the Connor McDavid of math.

  84. theres oil in virginia says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Back on topic, the extraodinary mathematician who came up with e to the i * pi = -1 was none other than Leonhard Euler (pron. “Oiler”). An even more beautiful version of the formula is the zero-sum game:

    (e^^ i * pi) + 1 = 0

    …containing 5 of the most fundmental values in all of mathematics.

    Euler was kinda like the Connor McDavid of math.

    So, you’re saying the” Euler’s” need to find an “identity”?

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