HERE COMES THE SUN

It’s morning in Edmonton. The long days and the tragic nights will soon be a thing of the past and hope—real hope—returns to the land of the ice and snow. Tonight, in a Florida city 15,000 miles from the heart of the game, a gifted teenager—the player of the century—will be called upon by the Oilers to join the department of youth. This time, this player, will have cover from some young guns and a veteran coach, with a new defensive team and structure in place to stop the bleeding. It’s been a long cold lonely winter. Here comes the sun.

THE 120 BEST PLAYERS IN THE 2015 DRAFT

  1. C Connor McDavid, Erie Otters (OHL) All our trials, lord, soon be over.  
  2. C Jack Eichel, Boston U (NCAA) Size, speed, skill, he’s a bull. Monster talent.
  3. R Mitch Marner, London Knights (OHL) Fantastic skater, sublime skill. Catch a fire.
  4. D Noah Hanifin, BC (NCAA) The entire package, signed, sealed and delivered. Stunning passer.
  5. C Dylan Strome, Erie Otters (OHL) Darryl Sittler without the edge. Exceptional hands.
  6. D Ivan Provorov, Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL) Russian Coffey. He can pick it on D, too.
  7. R Mikko Rantanen, TPS Turku (SML) Big W can beat you wide or smash his way to the net.
  8. C Mathew Barzal, Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL) ISS compares him to Claude Giroux. Lordy.
  9. D Zach Werenski, Michigan (NCAA) Big two-way D with complete range of skills. Quality.
  10. R Evgeni Svechnikov, Cape Breton (QMJHL) Voracek meets Tarasenko. Mercy.
  11. R Timo Meier, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL) Strong, thick, skilled. Gunner.
  12. D Jeremy Roy, Sherbrooke Phoenix (QMJHL) Big brain, skilled. Born Oiler. Great passer.
  13. C Travis Konecny, Ottawa 67’s (OHL) Modern Bobby Clarke. Great motor, surprising skill.
  14. R Nick Merkley, Kelowna Rockets (WHL) Dynamic offensive winger, playmaker like Hemsky.
  15. C Anthony Beauvillier, Shawinigan (QMJHL) Substantial offensive F, money in FO circle.
  16. C Pavel Zacha, Sarnia Sting (OHL). Complete PF: Size, speed, skill. He’d be top five with results.
  17. C Joel Eriksson Ek, Farjestad (SHL) Impressive C, complete player with significant offense.
  18. L Lawson Crouse, Kingston Frontenacs (OHL) Big, strong, fast, offensively shy.
  19. C Kyle Connor, Youngstown (USHL) Explosive offensive player with skill, intelligence.
  20. L Jake Debrusk, Swift Current (WHL) Quality scoring prospect. Reminds me of Eberle.
  21. C Jansen Harkins, Prince George Cougars (WHL) Smooth, skilled, creative, aggressive.
  22. D Jakub Zboril, Saint John Sea Dogs (QMJHL) Two-way D, solid offense. Noticeable.
  23. D Thomas Chabot, Saint John (QMJHL) Size, speed, skill, good defenseman. Could go higher.
  24. R Daniel Sprong, Charlottetown Islanders (QMJHL) Sniper, quick, skilled.
  25. D Oliver Kylington, Farjestad (SHL) Unsafe at any speed? Could be a major home run.
  26. R Zach Senyshyn, SSM Greyhounds (OHL) Fast train with skill and size. Could go higher.
  27. R Blake Speers, SSM Greyhounds (OHL) Exceptional speed, substantial skill.
  28. F Colin White, USNTDP (USHL) Fine skater, two-way player. Complete skills, a little shy offensively.
  29. D Travis Dermott, Erie Otters (OHL) Undersized, mobile defender. A gem.
  30. C Filip Chlapik, Charlotteteown (QMJHL) Two-way C, range of skills. 2C based on offense.
  31. R Brock Boeser, Waterloo Blachawks (USHL) Power winger, impressive scorer.
  32. D Ryan Pilon, Brandon (WHL) Offensive defender with size and speed.
  33. L Denis Gurianov, Lada (MHL). Smooth offensive player, good size. Quality U18.
  34. C-R Jeremy Bracco, USNTDP (USHL) Small forward with fast hands, great skill.
  35. D Noah Juulsen, Everett Silvertips (WHL) Good size, can play defense, some skill.
  36. C Andrew Mangiapane, Barrie (OHL) Brilliant offensive player.
  37. L Paul Bittner, Portland Winterhawks (WHL) Big winger with speed and scoring ability.
  38. D Ethan Bear, Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL) Mobile defender, very good shot.
  39. D Rasmus Andersson, Barrie (OHL) Boom or bust. Tremendous potential.
  40. C Mitchell Stephens, Saginaw Spirit (OHL). Speedy C had a massive U18’s.
  41. C Nicolas Roy, Chicoutimi Sagueneens (QMJHL) Rugged two-way C with size.
  42. D Vince Dunn, Niagara (OHL). Smart offensive defender.
  43. C Jack Roslovic, USNTDP (USHL) Playmaking C had a tremendous U18’s.
  44. D Jacob Larsson, Frolunda (SHL) Two-way defender, tall and rangy.
  45. D-F Mitchell Vande Sompel, Oshawa (OHL) Need to find him a position, skilled.
  46. R Nikita Korostelev, Sarnia Sting (OHL) Skill winger.
  47. L Dennis Yan, Shawinigan Cataractes (QMJHL) Scoring W with some size.
  48. C Nathan Noel, Saint John Sea Dogs (QMJHL) Wide range of skills, undersized.
  49. L Dmytro Timashov, Quebec Remparts (QMJHL) Explosive winger with crazy numbers.
  50. G Daniel Vladar, Kladno (Czech 2) 8GP, 1.97 .933
  51. G Ilya Samsonov, Magnitogorsk (MHL) 18GP, 2.66 .918
  52. L Ryan Gropp, Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL) PF prospect, can score goals.
  53. D Erik Cernak, Kosice (Slovak) Huge defenseman with a nice range of skills.
  54. D Nicolas Meloche, Baie-Comeau (QMJHL) Effective defender, good size.
  55. L Erik Foley, Cedar Rapids (USHL) Tough winger has offensive ability.
  56. C-R Roope Hintz, Ilves (SML) Intelligent two-way W, fine skater.
  57. F Filip Ahl, HV-71 (SHL) 6.04, 214, strong all the walls.
  58. D Matt Spencer, Peterborough Petes (OHL) Tough two-way defender.
  59. C Julius Nattinen, JYP (Fin 2). Big skill C gaining steam during spring tournaments.
  60. D Brandon Carlo, Tri-City (WHL) Big, strong, mean defender.
  61. C Alexander Dergachyov, St. Petersburg (Rus Jr). Giant skill C, attractive range of skills.
  62. D Gabriel Carlsson, Linkoping (Swe Jr). Rangy defender, highly rated by Central Scouting.
  63. L Graham Knott, Niagra Ice Dogs (OHL) Size, good scorer, range of skills.
  64. R Christian Fischer, USNTDP (USHL). Scoring winger with size, 7 points at U18’s.
  65. G Matej Tomek, Topeka Roadrunners (NAHL) 31GP, 1.71 .932
  66. R Jens Looke, Brynas (SHL) Playmaking winger with speed.
  67. L Vladimir Tkachev, Quebec Remparts (QMJHL) Small W, extremely skilled.
  68. L Jordan Greenway, USNTDP (USHL) Power winger with skill.
  69. C Thomas Novak, Waterlook Blackhawks (USHL). Skilled two-way center.
  70. R Michael Spacek, Pardubice (Cze) Skilled, hard working.
  71. D Vili Saarijavi, Green Bay Gamblers (USHL). Small D is a wizard. Big U18’s.
  72. R David Kase, Chomutov (Cze-2) Skilled W, aggressive bent. Impressive U18’s.
  73. L Austin Wagner, Regina Pats (WHL). Speedy winger emerged late and can do a lot of things.
  74. G Michael McNiven, Owen Sound Attack (OHL) 23GP, 2.78 .914
  75. C Tyler Soy, Victoria Royals (WHL) Lightning quick forward.
  76. C Glenn Gawdin, Swift Current Broncos (WHL). Keeps impressing with two-way skills.
  77. R Conor Garland, Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL). Small, extremely skilled.
  78. L Jesse Gabrielle, Regina Pats (WHL). Projects as a scoring W—better than boxcars.
  79. L Robin Kovacs, AIK (Allsvenskan). Skill winger with speed, rugged and pesky style.
  80. D Jesper Lindgren, Modo (Swe Jr).  ‘Erik Karlsson clone’ according to Red Line.
  81. L Kirill Kaprizov, Novokuznetsk (KHL). Small skill winger.
  82. G MacKenzie Blackwood, Barrie Colts (OHL). Big butterfly style goalie.
  83. C Gabriel Gagne, Victoriaville (QMJHL) Huge C, good speed, very creative offensively.
  84. C Dante Salituro, Ottawa 67’s (OHL). Small forward, terrific skill.
  85. G Felix Sandstrom, Brynas (Super-Elite). 14GP, 2.63 .907 in SE.
  86. D Sebastian Aho, Skelleftea (SHL). Undersized, puck mover. No. 11 LT last year.
  87. C Yakov Trenin, Gatineau Olympique (QMJHL). Skilled forward, foot speed an issue.
  88. D Kyle Capobianco, Sudbury Wolves (OHL). Skill D had a strong finish to OHL season.
  89. G Adin Hill, Portland Winterhawks (WHL). .921 SP and he’s 6.04
  90. D Jonas Siegenthaler, SZC (Swiss). Big defender, can pass the puck well.
  91. C Jakov Forsbacka Karlsson, Omaha Lancers (USHL). Playmaking center, good passer.
  92. L Sebastian Ohlsson, Skelleftea (SHL). Small skill center showed well at U18’s.
  93. Gustaf Bouramman, SSM Greyhounds (OHL). Puck-moving D with decent size.
  94. C Adam Musil, Red Deer Rebels (WHL). Skill W, would be higher but EV scoring is troubling.
  95. D Parker Wotherspoon, Tri-City Americans (WHL). Good skater, defender.
  96. R Deven Sideroff, Kamloops Blazers (WHL). Skill W, hard worker, very good passer.
  97. C Dennis Malgin, SZC (Swi). Small, fast, extremely skilled center.
  98. R Lukas Jasek, Trinec (Czech). Smart two-way forward with skill.
  99. L Sebastian Aho, Karpat (SM-Liiga). Smart, skilled offensive player.
  100. C Anthony Richard, Vad d’Or (QMJHL). Great skater, quality offense.
  101. D Guillaume Brisebois, Acadie-Bathurst Titan (QMJHL). Tall, rangy D, skates well.
  102. C Giorgio Estephan, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL). Skill player on a bad team.
  103. C Brett McKenzie, North Bay Battalion (OHL). Two-way C with skill.
  104. D Dennis Gilbert, Chicago Steel (USHL). Huge defender, skilled. Red Line loves him.
  105. C Brad Morrison, Prince George Cougars (WHL). Speedy and creative center.
  106. R Jeremiah Addison, Ottawa 67’s (OHL). Playoffs were fantastic showcase.
  107. L Adam Helewka, Spokane Chiefs (WHL) Smart winger who can score goals.
  108. L Mihkail Vorobyov, Ufa, Rus Jr. Big W, some offense. 6.02, 198. Impressed U18’s.
  109. D Jeremy Lauzon, Rouyn-Noranda Huskies (QMJHL). Tall, lean D, good foot speed.
  110. D Thomas Schemitsch, Owen Sound Attack (OHL). Intelligent two-way defender.
  111. D Brendan Guhle, Prince Albert Raiders (WHL). Sleeping giant, range of skills.
  112. D John Marino, South Shore Kings (USHS) Undersized skill D, stock is rising.
  113. D Veeti Vainio, Espoo (Fin Jr). 6.02, 170, mobile D who can pass the puck, defend well.
  114. D Vladislav Gavrikov, Yaroslavl (KHL). Two-way D with size and skill. He’s a 1995.
  115. D Simon Bourque, Rimouski Oceanic (QMJHL). Two-way D, mobile, powerful skater.
  116. R Kay Schweri, Sherbrooke Phoenix (QMJHL). Fantastic playmaker.
  117. D Loik Leveille, Cape Breton (QMHL). I can’t keep him off the list. Ultimate boom/boom.
  118. C Brayden Burke, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL). Was very good in half a season.
  119. D Andrew Nielson, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL). Big two-way defender
  120. L Pius Suter, Guelph Storm (OHL). A small, older, highly skilled C, scored 72 points.

Peter Chiarelli has Bob Green and Scott Howson running the draft and they have two first-round selections. In 2011 the same first-round opportunity delivered Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Oscar Klefbom, and for me the current group needs to deliver more than Nuge/Klef value this day. McDavid is a better prospect than Nuge, and the Oilers pick (or are slated to pick) at No. 16—an area where the available talent is superior to the 2011 group (Klefbom was followed by Connor Murphy, Rikard Rakell and others).

We should expect quality selections throughout tonight and tomorrow. Connor McDavid, Joel Eriksson Ek—that’s the line in the sand. The nature of the draft allows the Oilers all form of leeway (there are probably 25 players qualified to go No. 16 or higher) but they must get quality all weekend, beginning with tonight’s two selections.  The 2013 draft is a reasonable template and of course Edmonton has more draft picks early so the results should be outstanding.

OILERS PICKS THIS WEEKEND

  • No. 1 overall: C Connor McDavid. My guess is he’s at center ice for opening faceoff 2015-16, with Hall and Eberle alongside. Music!
  • No. 16 overall: C Joel Eriksson Ek. Impressive C, good offense and a gritty style.
  • No. 33 overall: D Travis Dermott. Effective offensive defender, can play defense.
  • No. 57 overall: D Ethan Bear. Solid defenseman, built like a brick outhouse, fine shot.
  • No. 79 overall: G Matej Tomek. Tomek and Jalad at Tanagra. He’s a good goalie.
  • No. 86 overall: C Tyler Soy. Very talented player, spiked in the second half.
  • No. 117 overall: D Jeremy Lauzon. Big defender with a range of skills. May be long gone before this.
  • No. 124 overall: R Keegan Kolesar. Tough winger with some skill, Oilers looking for this type. He can play.
  • No. 154 overall: C Alexandre Goulet. Checking C if he makes it, does a lot well at evens.
  • No. 184 overall: C Tyson Baillie. Extreme skill, hard worker, speed only average. Could be a home run pick. Seriously.

CHIARELLI’S LIST

  1. Draft McDavid (and sign him)
  2. Find a quality goalie option (this is the Talbot item)
  3. Acquire a legit top pairing blue (as always, clear as mud days before bullets fly. Dougie Hamilton=perfect fit)
  4. Sign a more offensive two-way F
  5. Ignore MacT re: Marincin (Or trade Marincin for real value and not a damn pick)

McDavid arrives today, Cam Talbot would cover the goalie option but Adam McQuaid doesn’t move the needle on option three. Early days men, we should allow Peter Chiarelli to do his work. IF the Oilers leave Florida with McQuaid and no other blue for 2015-16, we should expect something in the coming days (beyond McQuaid). I’m guessing trade.

I suspect it will be Cam Talbot, that’s the play here. The problem? As we’ve discussed all along, Glen Sather is the asshat’s asshat when it comes to negotiation. I had a boss years ago (good guy, on the off chance he’ll read this) who used to say it’s only a good negotiation if both sides feel a little pain. Sather’s like that, every day is a root canal. Loved it when he was Oilers’ GM, hate it now. My guess is (and has been for some time) No. 33 overall and a substantial pick from 2016.

So far this draft season, Chiarelli has played things straight up in my opinion. He MAY reach a point of overpay but I think he’s reading the market correctly. If the Flames (as an example) blow their brains out on Talbot, that leaves the free-agent market with one fewer player. You want Talbot, but not at any price. Fair? I think so.

I do think the Flames may end up with Cam Talbot but Edmonton will have given their best shot. In this area, and I’m aware of the McQuaid upset, I think we have to give Chiarelli credit for identifying quality and pursuing it. Cam Talbot would be a terrific add, the question is the price. I still think it’s No. 33 overall and another pick inside the top 90 next year. If the Flames end up with Talbot, I’d like to see Chiarelli take a run at Eddie Lack. After that? Free agency with Enroth and Neuvirth and I’m fine with that outcome as well. The early part of the day has been interesting, suspect we’ll see something big by the time noon hits Edmonton.

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 LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

10 this morning, TSN1260. We’ll have as many topics as possible but this is a fluid show and could be all McDavid all the time or goalie central. Whatever happens, we’ll have it. Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, Big Mouth Sports. NHL draft, Free agency and Pan Am Games.
  • Antony Bent, FC Edmonton. Eddies update and Women’s World Cup.
  • Brock Otten OHL Prospects. McDavid’s beyond dreamy.
  • Paul Almeida, SSE. We’ll talk about the crazy and the draft.

10-1260 text @Lowetide on twitter. McDavid Day!

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  1. oilswell says:

    Ducey: Sorry, he sings the same tune over and over, and his over top commentary is unnecessary.

    I’ll just go back to squishing his head.

    Lol, whatever works I don’t find it that bad, he’s no worse than DSF IMO.

  2. Younger Oil says:

    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 36s36 seconds ago

    The Bruins retained close to half of Lucic’s cap hit/salary in order to make trade work with the cap-strung Kings

  3. Death By Misadventure says:

    Good Morning from the Middle-East.

    Tried getting some sleep before I was going to be up all night, but I’m too excited to sleep.

    Got up early only to find out about the Hamilton and Lucic trades.

    Crazy day/night and the draft hasn’t even started!

    Wow.

    Whooooot!

  4. auzy11 says:

    oil wont get talbot calgary out of it now with there picks going to bruins,,,,,,its FA…he goes to SJ

  5. G Money says:

    According to NHL Numbers, with the Lucic trade, the Kings now have 18 players signed and have $2M worth of cap room left.

    I think a Richards buyout (which leaves them on the hook for 10 years, does it not?) frees up another $3M if I have my CBA assumptions correct.

    Definitely some other shoes left to drop in LA.

    Also – who’s left still looking for a goalie?

    Presumably Cgy is locked in to UFA. If Vancouver wants to trade Lack, they may have no choice but to trade in-conference.

  6. Lackadaisical says:

    How likely is it that Rask gets shopped now?

  7. Connorrhea says:

    Rask for the 16th

    Would give Sweeneely 13 – 16.

  8. square_wheels says:

    Lowetide,

    Absolutely, Darnell isn’t a dissimilar player and is most definitely 10x more aggressive. That UFA crop next year is going to be something.

  9. G Money says:

    Younger Oil:
    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 36s36 seconds ago

    The Bruins retained close to half of Lucic’s cap hit/salary in order to make trade work with the cap-strung Kings

    That makes more sense, leaves LA with $5M for 5 players, $8M for 6 if they buy out Richards.

    So who won the trade now?

  10. spoiler says:

    KPD on the radio speculating that if the target isn’t ARI’s pick, it’s one of the Oilers $6M men.

  11. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers are about to walk off with the best freaking player of the 21st century so far, they’ve achieved something I haven’t seen since the Dynasty Days:

    Happy to the Flames tonight in the same way a drunk dude once bought illegal alcohol from a Muslim shopkeeper on Christmas Day.

  12. Wolfie says:

    Connorrhea:
    Rask for the 16th

    Would give Sweeneely 13 – 16.

    Wouldn’t that be something…

  13. LMHF#1 says:

    spoiler:
    KPD on the radio speculating that if the target isn’t ARI’s pick, it’s one of the Oilers $6M men.

    KPD?

  14. Магия 10 says:

    rickithebear: http://myslu.stlawu.edu/~msch/sports/Schuckers_NHL_Draft.pdf

    15 43.3%
    45 19.2 %
    52 18.4% -> 80.9%

    16 41.3%
    33 23.7%
    57 17.6 -> 81.6%

    this is the draft you want to keep your top 60 picks in.
    It should give you the prospect depth to roll young top end talent to replace a 29 year old Eberle or a 33 year old Pouliot. high contracts.
    30 year old fayne.

    I’d ask for the percentages for 3 vs. 13-15. But I guess they’d understate the value of what 3 does if he makes the game threshold.

  15. Rational Zealot says:

    Retaining the Lucic salary is pretty significant.

  16. Tarkus says:

    So Hamilton is going to Calgary. That’s tonight’s CFL game.

    I also heard the Flames acquired someone today.

    Less than 2 hours till CFMD!!!!!!

  17. Marc says:

    LMHF#1: KPD?

    Kevin Paul Dupont. He’s Boston’s Matty.

  18. Lowetide says:

    LMHF#1: KPD?

    Kevin Paul Dupont.

  19. G Money says:

    A source indicated to CSNNE that the Bruins are trying to put together a package to move up & take Noah Hanifin. That is their guy.— Joe Haggerty (@HackswithHaggs) June 26, 2015

    I’d draft Hanifin in a heartbeat, but trading Hamilton for Hanifin is still all kinds of stupid.

  20. Lowetide says:

    If Boston is trading all of these vets, why not Rask?

  21. Магия 10 says:

    I think its time for a few Oct roster predictions.
    1. Nikitin is done and will be put on waivers and successfully sent to Bakersfield a few days before the end of training camp.
    2. Scrivens is not Chiarelli’s guy and Nilsson will have a strong training camp stopping every shot fired his way, so Scrivens will join Nikitin in Bakersfield. G Money will freak out.
    3. Draisaitl will be sent down on roster day after a good camp.
    Woodguy will predict the first two of these correctly and partially get the third one after changing his mind late in the process (after earlier picking Klink as the demotion). He will be pretty proud of his achievement.

  22. Магия 10 says:

    G Money: I’d draft Hanifin in a heartbeat, but trading Hamilton for Hanifin is still all kinds of stupid.

    That’s Hamlton + Lucic + their own first for Hanifin.

  23. LMHF#1 says:

    Lowetide:
    If Boston is trading all of these vets, why not Rask?

    Rask and a first for Eberle?

  24. Showerhead says:

    Lowetide:
    If Boston is trading all of these vets, why not Rask?

    I am enjoying this very same fantasy right now in my office. In my fantasy, Scarlett Johansson is also in my office.

  25. G Money says:

    Магия 10: That’s Hamlton + Lucic + their own first for Hanifin.

    Plus also half of Lucic’s salary!

    Man.

    Maybe they’ll luck out if they trade with Arizona, and get Sam Gagner back as a sweetener.

    Go Sweeney!!!

  26. rickithebear says:

    Магия 10: If the book value is close it’s probably more about the value of the 13-15 run. Packaging matters.

    F… Y….. Chia i
    is what is going on.

    But we are here!

    Hall (+16.3) – Mcdavid (+10.0) – XXX
    Pouliot (+9.0) – RNH (+10.0) – Eberle (+13.4)
    XXX – Lander (+5.2) – XXX

    Draisatl
    Yakimov
    Slepyshev

    XXX-Fayne (+3.1)
    Marincin (+6.7) -XXX
    Klefbom (+4.5)-XXX
    Nurse

    CHIA:
    -there are lots of goalie options.
    -we will try to get 2 D, 1 is ok.

  27. spoiler says:

    G Money: I’d draft Hanifin in a heartbeat, but trading Hamilton for Hanifin is still all kinds of stupid.

    And not just Hamilton. Lucic with salary retained.

    Sounds Charlie Jacobs stupid.

  28. Магия 10 says:

    Corey Pronman ‏@coreypronman 17m17 minutes ago
    If a team makes a pick at 3, or picks 13, 14 and 15 it means pretty much the same thing in terms of value added to the org, on average.

    Not sure it’s an average year.

  29. rickithebear says:

    oilswell: You know, I get this, but to my ears it sounds like trying to rationalize the pain. Hamilton really wasn’t so good. The picks are really quite dear. No, face the pain. The Flames got much better cheaply. They deserve nothing of the sort, let some other team be our rival. Columbus or Minnesota or whomever.

    Flames can have derision, scorn, and gut wrenching failure for a decade.

    1 series win in 24 years.
    they are now 2 in 25 years.

    F. we have had more than that in 10
    3 series wins and a Pennat.

  30. Rational Zealot says:

    Магия 10: That’s Hamlton + Lucic + their own first for Hanifin.

    Well, when you put it that way.

  31. speeds says:

    LMHF#1: Rask and a first for Eberle?

    I was just about to ask if people would make that deal.

  32. gd says:

    When we were resigned to getting 3rd, I rationalized that someone like Bos & Phil would love Hanifin. If the Oilers were still at 3, I would take 13, 14, 15 then with our 16 go Connor, Svechy, Zboril and Roy.

  33. Lowetide says:

    Showerhead: I am enjoying this very same fantasy right now in my office. In my fantasy, Scarlett Johansson is also in my office.

    I’m on my way to your office.

  34. Lowetide says:

    LMHF#1: Rask and a first for Eberle?

    I think there’s the making of a deal in there, yes.

  35. Well Oiled and Enthusiastic says:

    I guess that trade for Hamilton means Treliving and Burke are free to go clubbing tonight in Florida. Really, who wants to be at the office on a Friday night?

    I like how BoA is coming along. Going to be a great decade of hockey in the west once again.

  36. Showerhead says:

    speeds: I was just about to ask if people would make that deal.

    I think the hockey value would be fair.

    I wouldn’t do it from an asset management perspective. Rask is bonafide but he carries a $7M cap hit. The difference in wins over a season of his (legitimately stellar) goaltending vs. let’s say, Cam Talbot would not be worth the acquisition cost to me.

    edited to correct cap hit.

  37. stephen sheps says:

    theres oil in virginia,

    UTC (Chattanooga)… so yeah, a little far away from you. Let’s talk again in the fall.

    Woodguy:
    Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 50s50 seconds ago

    Believe LA was waiting for medical clearance before making Lucic trade. Once they do, would expect it involves 13th pick among other pieces.

    what in the actual hell? I’m late to the party on this Lucic to LA thing. Has Lombardi also lost his mind? Who else is getting moved to fit under LA’s precarious cap?

    edit: retained salary? What is going on today?!

  38. Marc says:

    speeds: I was just about to ask if people would make that deal.

    I think I’d rather have Eberle, Svechnikov etc, Talbot/Lack than Rask + whoever we get at 33.

  39. LMHF#1 says:

    Lowetide: I think there’s the making of a deal in there, yes.

    And you’d think they might wait until after they’ve picked McDavid to give him his moment.

    Going to be a long next couple hours.

    Much as Eberle is one of my absolute favorites, getting one of the best goalies in the world, locked up for term, would be pretty exceptional.

  40. Connorrhea says:

    stephen sheps: Who else is getting moved to fit under LA’s precarious cap

    Neely held 1/2 of Looch’s salary.

  41. Showerhead says:

    Showerhead: I think the hockey value would be fair.

    I wouldn’t do it from an asset management perspective. Rask is bonafide but he carries a $7M cap hit. The difference in wins over a season of his (legitimately stellar) goaltending vs. let’s say, Cam Talbot would not be worth the acquisition cost to me.

    edited to correct cap hit.

    Mind you, the idea of having the goaltending solved solved SOLVED – no gambling at all – does play on the brain a little bit.

  42. Connorrhea says:

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    Craig CustanceVerified account
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    With Lucic trade, Kings won’t be able to sign Andrej Sekera so he’ll hit the market. It was a major consideration for them. They like him.

  43. thejonrmcleod says:

    I answered my own question:

    According to one draft value chart, the 3 draft picks offered by the Oilers for Hamilton have a 826 value and Calgary’s have a 809 value.

    http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2011/6/21/2235503/nhl-draft-value-pick-chart

  44. spoiler says:

    Bruins retaining $2.75M of Looch’s salary.

  45. spoiler says:

    Fluto Shinzawa ‏@GlobeFluto · 3m3 minutes ago
    Brad Treliving: Paid a steep price.

    Bwahahahahaha!

  46. spoiler says:

    Jon Rosen ‏@lakingsinsider · 5m5 minutes ago
    With Boston absorbing $2.75M of Lucic’s *cap hit*, Los Angeles now has roughly $66.48M allotted to 18 players.

  47. LMHF#1 says:

    Showerhead: I think the hockey value would be fair.

    I wouldn’t do it from an asset management perspective. Rask is bonafide but he carries a $7M cap hit. The difference in wins over a season of his (legitimately stellar) goaltending vs. let’s say, Cam Talbot would not be worth the acquisition cost to me.

    edited to correct cap hit.

    Have to look at is as a package though too – with Talbot you need some insurance that would likely be more expensive than Rask’s caddie.

    Plus he’s only 1 year older. And locked up.

  48. Marc says:

    stephen sheps,

    Chattanooga is a great city. The wife of my best friend from college is from there and that’s where they got married.

    Tennessee is a great place. I used to go down there for spring break with my friend. Great food, especially BBQ. The Ridgewood (a few miles from the Bristol Motor Speedway) might be the best BBQ place in the country.

    Great Smoky Mountains National Park and the adjacent bit of North Carolina is stunning (though Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge, which you have to go through to get to the park, might be the tackiest place on the planet).

    Definitely catch a football game at UT in Knoxville. The stadium seats 110,000+. It’s an unreal experience.

  49. Lackadaisical says:

    thejonrmcleod:
    I answered my own question:

    According to one draft value chart, the 3 draft picks offered by the Oilers for Hamilton have a 826 value and Calgary’s have a 809 value.

    http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2011/6/21/2235503/nhl-draft-value-pick-chart

    Regarding Rask in this context; it seems doubtful Boston will do any reasonable business with Edmonton.

  50. Магия 10 says:

    thejonrmcleod:
    I answered my own question:

    According to one draft value chart, the 3 draft picks offered by the Oilers for Hamilton have a 826 value and Calgary’s have a 809 value.

    http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2011/6/21/2235503/nhl-draft-value-pick-chart

    It might not be entirely spite if the 3 consecutives matter to Phoenix.

  51. Connorrhea says:

    spoiler: Los Angeles now has roughly $66.48M allotted to 18 players.

    And are allowed to be $7.14M over the cap during the summer, or $78.54M.

    Lombardi only has to buy Richards a 300 hp jetski, and things will take care of themselves in the off season.

  52. Marc says:

    spoiler:
    Jon Rosen ‏@lakingsinsider· 5m5 minutes ago
    With Boston absorbing $2.75M of Lucic’s *cap hit*, Los Angeles now has roughly $66.48M allotted to 18 players.

    That’s roughly $1M per player. They’re more or less done for this offseason, aren’t they?

  53. spoiler says:

    Lackadaisical: Regarding Rask in this context; it seems doubtful Boston will do any reasonable business with Edmonton.

    Exactly. I think Dupont was nuts suggesting the Oilers were now a trade target. Ok, so you turn down more from us to trade with our rival and now you want to a deal?

  54. Showerhead says:

    LMHF#1: Have to look at is as a package though too – with Talbot you need some insurance that would likely be more expensive than Rask’s caddie.

    Plus he’s only 1 year older. And locked up.

    Locked up, bonafide, good age for most of the fair-priced contract. There’s a lot to like, plus simply having the goaltending needs box checked off for the foreseeable future has got to be worth something too.

    I just keep thinking average goalies win cups all of the time and their acquisition costs / cap hits are nowhere in the league of Eberle + the 16th @ $7M.

    If I’m this torn, some would suggest that it must be in the range.

  55. leadfarmer says:

    So what crazyness is Neely planning with the 13th,14th,15th picks.

  56. spoiler says:

    Marc,

    Well, there are buyout options, and the possibility of other trades, and as was said above, they’ve now given up on Sekera.

  57. LMHF#1 says:

    Showerhead: Locked up, bonafide, good age for most of the fair-priced contract. There’s a lot to like, plus simply having the goaltending needs box checked off for the foreseeable future has got to be worth something too.

    I just keep thinking average goalies win cups all of the time and their acquisition costs / cap hits are nowhere in the league of Eberle + the 16th @ $7M.

    If I’m this torn, some would suggest that it must be in the range.

    No no, not the 16th. A Boston pick.

  58. leadfarmer says:

    Marc,

    Does that include Voynov’s contract? He is a big question mark.

  59. spoiler says:

    Showerhead: If I’m this torn, some would suggest that it must be in the range.

    Well it’s hard to think straight while Scarlett Johansson is taking dictation.
    😀

  60. Well Oiled and Enthusiastic says:

    One team uncomfortably looking at the proceedings today is Toronto. Simply have to deal with Kessel, Phaneuf, Lupul and Bozak if they are legit in rebuilding. Don’t want to lose out on harvesting from this draft class. Should be interesting.

  61. speeds says:

    Showerhead: I think the hockey value would be fair.

    I wouldn’t do it from an asset management perspective. Rask is bonafide but he carries a $7M cap hit. The difference in wins over a season of his (legitimately stellar) goaltending vs. let’s say, Cam Talbot would not be worth the acquisition cost to me.

    edited to correct cap hit.

    I get what you’re saying. What I would say in response is I think you can easily spend 5M on a G and not get what one might expect you’d get from Rask for 7M, and while I don’t think you can easily replace Eberle on the UFA market, I can understand EDM thinking that, with Hall, RNH, and McDavid, they can find UFA F’s looking to sign in EDM easier than they can find a Rask.

    And I say all that without comment on whether or not I would make that trade, I haven’t thought about it enough or read enough to feel comfortable.

    Woodguy, Asiaoil, GMoney, WheatnOil etc, what’s your take on Rask?

  62. Lowetide says:

    leadfarmer:
    So what crazyness is Neely planning with the 13th,14th,15th picks.

    He should be able to use two of them in an effort to move into the top 10. OR he can take three players Edmonton might want! 🙂 I’m kidding, despite the weird Calgary trade, one suspects the Bruins won’t damage their own future just to be dinks.

    As an aside, I am feeling a little wonky on today. I like BOTH teams a lot so this day has been straaaange. Bruins are going down, Oil apparently on the way up.

    I’m even Steven!

  63. Connorrhea says:

    leadfarmer: Voynov’s

    He’s been suspended due to an off-season injury that was not hockey related. Off the books.

  64. frjohnk says:

    leadfarmer:
    So what crazyness is Neely planning with the 13th,14th,15th picks.

    I don’t think even he knows

  65. thejonrmcleod says:

    Adding to my previous comment about draft pick value…

    If you include the Bruins’ demand of Nurse (former 7th overall), you could say that the value of the package the Bruins asked for was 1491.

    1491 > 809

  66. Ben says:

    Betting Coyotes take Strome, Neely flips those picks to TO.

  67. spoiler says:

    Lowetide: He should be able to use two of them in an effort to move into the top 10. OR he can take three players Edmonton might want! I’m kidding, despite the weird Calgary trade, one suspects the Bruins won’t damage their own future just to be dinks.

    As an aside, I am feeling a little wonky on today. I like BOTH teams a lot so this day has been straaaange. Bruins are going down, Oil apparently on the way up.

    I’m even Steven!

    I’m guessing the offer will start at two 1sts and Subban to Arizona.

  68. Marc says:

    leadfarmer:
    Marc,

    Does that include Voynov’s contract?He is a big question mark.

    It doesn’t include Voynov, as he’s suspended, and assumes that they are buying out Richards.

  69. v4ance says:

    Btw,

    If anyone else has NHL Network, Chia is talking with the panel now.

  70. speeds says:

    LT, if BOS keeps the picks, do you think it unlikely they would take 3F’s there?

  71. spoiler says:

    Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull · 18m18 minutes ago
    Ariz. and Boston working on a deal; several GMs talking right now on packed draft floor.

  72. Lucinius says:

    v4ance,

    He saying anything interesting?

  73. vinotintazo says:

    anyway to watch draft online?

  74. speeds says:

    The reason I ask is I kind of wondered if we’d see a run of F’s at that spot, I wonder if that becomes less likely if BOS retains all 3 firsts?

  75. Магия 10 says:

    spoiler: I’m guessing the offer will start at two 1sts and Subban to Arizona.

    and what would oel cost boston?

  76. Marc says:

    leadfarmer:
    So what crazyness is Neely planning with the 13th,14th,15th picks.

    Well they’re after Sharp. which would almost certainly take one of the picks

  77. misfit says:

    thejonrmcleod:
    Adding to my previous comment about draft pick value…

    If you include the Bruins’ demand of Nurse (former 7th overall), you could say that the value of the package the Bruins asked for was 1491.

    1491 > 809

    That would be assuming they wanted Nurse in addition to the 3 picks. The tweet doesn’t say that at all, just that they wanted Nurse involved.

  78. eidy says:

    I am hoping that Boston keeps the picks rather than Arizona getting them. Then they select Bittner, Carlo, and Colin White

  79. Wolfpack says:

    speeds:
    The reason I ask is I kind of wondered if we’d see a run of F’s at that spot, I wonder if that becomes less likely if BOS retains all 3 firsts?

    Neely’s strategy has to do with his bum knee. He doesn’t want to walk back and forth from his table to the podium too many times. So he secured the three consecutive picks so he can just stay up on the stage.

  80. RexLibris says:

    Heard about the Hamilton trade while I was sitting on a patio trying to relax.

    I won’t say it ruined my day, but it was damned near close.

    Went through a good five or ten minutes displaying intense Tourettes’ symptoms.

  81. 106 and 106 says:

    Hey anyone have a link to a stream of the draft?

  82. thejonrmcleod says:

    misfit,

    OK. Maybe I misunderstood what was said about what the Bruins wanted.

  83. Магия 10 says:

    Scott Cullen: The common refrain around the league in the salary cap era is that teams can’t acquire No. 1 centres or No. 1 defencemen via trade, but the Bruins, dealing Hamilton and Tyler Seguin before him (and Joe Thornton years before that), have shown that’s not entirely the case. A team just has to catch the Bruins on the right day.

    Ouch.

  84. LadiesloveSmid says:

    man I didn’t think I could be upset on McDavid day, but wow.

    CGY on D: Giordano, Brodie, Hamilton. All established top 2-3 D.
    CGY at C: Bennett, Monahan, Backlun. Studs at 1 and 2, great defensive possession player at 3C.
    CGY at G: Hiller, Ortio, Gillies. #1 goalie, 1 good prospect, 1 great prospect

    EDM on D: Nurse, Klefbom, Schultz. One maybe top 4 D, one top 2-4 hopeful, one top 4 delusional
    EDM at C: McDavid, RNH, Draisaitl. Studs at 1 and 2, potential stud at 3.
    EDM at G: Scrivens, Brossoit, Laurikainen. Goalie off an AHL calibre season, 1 good prospect, 1 so so prospect.

    So hard to be an oilers fan when in half the time of EDM’s rebuild, they’re looking a lot better. Man I’m so negative on the big day

  85. spoiler says:

    Eric Stephens ‏@icemancometh · 17m17 minutes ago
    Eakins: “Getting back to the NHL is the last thing on my mind right now.”

  86. Магия 10 says:

    Wolfpack: Neely’s strategy has to do with his bum knee. He doesn’t want to walk back and forth from his table to the podium too many times. So he secured the three consecutive picks so he can just stay up on the stage.

    Owner wants the local hero. Not Eichel. The other one.

  87. leadfarmer says:

    Marc,

    Yeah but at some point his suspension will end, I doubt the team would suspend him for the whole season

  88. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Lowetide:
    If Boston is trading all of these vets, why not Rask?

    Hamilton goes for 15, 42, 53

    McQuaid gets 2.75Mx4

    Rask for 16? Rask for Ewanyk?

    Oh boy, I’m glad we got the smart guy out of Boston

  89. Protagonist says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    man I didn’t think I could be upset on McDavid day, but wow.

    CGY on D: Giordano, Brodie, Hamilton. All established top 2-3 D.
    CGY at C: Bennett, Monahan, Backlun. Studs at 1 and 2, great defensive possession player at 3C.
    CGY at G: Hiller, Ortio, Gillies. #1 goalie, 1 good prospect, 1 great prospect

    EDM on D: Nurse, Klefbom, Schultz. One maybe top 4 D, one top 2-4 hopeful, one top 4 delusional
    EDM at C: McDavid, RNH, Draisaitl. Studs at 1 and 2, potential stud at 3.
    EDM at G: Scrivens, Brossoit, Laurikainen. Goalie off an AHL calibre season, 1 good prospect, 1 so so prospect.

    So hard to be an oilers fan when in half the time of EDM’s rebuild, they’re looking a lot better. Man I’m so negative on the big day

    I’m not entirely certain, but I think there are some more players on the ice than Cs, Ds and Gs. Not to mention that MacDavid has substantially more promise than Sam Bennet, and you can argue that Nuge has been superior as well. I’d rather have Drai than Monahan as well.

  90. Lackadaisical says:

    @reporterchris Don Sweeney: “We extended Dougie a very significant contract offer and it didn’t lead us where I thought it would.”

    What?

  91. leadfarmer says:

    spoiler,

    In response the NHL was overheard saying the last thing on our mind is Eakins ever having a coaching position again.

  92. LadiesloveSmid says:

    who was the last young player of Hamilton’s calibre to be traded?

    boy that stings

  93. Connorrhea says:

    LadiesloveSmid: Oh boy, I’m glad we got the smart guy out of Boston

    looking at you, Vancouver…

  94. Wolfie says:

    Would Arizona listen on the 3rd if Draisaitl was offered. I wouldn’t add a 1st to that but maybe the 57 pick?

    If Boston does Rask plus one of their 1st round picks for Eberle you have some currency to address D with Hanifin, W with Svech….

    I don’t know… The possibilities are endless i suppose.

  95. Boondock says:

    spoiler:
    Eric Stephens ‏@icemancometh· 17m17 minutes ago
    Eakins: “Getting back to the NHL is the last thing on my mind right now.”

    Getting Dallas Eakins back is the last thing on the NHL’s mind too.

  96. Ben says:

    I imagine that for Martin Jones Sweeney will ask Peaches for Eberle and 16OV, then trade him to San Jose for a 4th round pick.

  97. vinotintazo says:

    Wolfie:
    Would Arizona listen on the 3rd if Draisaitl was offered.I wouldn’t add a 1st to that but maybe the 57 pick?

    If Boston does Rask plus one of their 1st round picks for Eberle you have some currency to address D with Hanifin, W with Svech….

    I don’t know… The possibilities are endless i suppose.

    \banned.

  98. spoiler says:

    Jim Matheson ‏@NHLbyMatty · 1m1 minute ago
    “I spoke to Peter over the past few days but not today. He built this (Boston) club.” Don Sweeney on Chiarelli on Hamilton#nhldraft

  99. Connorrhea says:

    LadiesloveSmid: who was the last young player of Hamilton’s calibre to be traded?

    Smid.

    😉

  100. spoiler says:

    If Boston keeps all three picks and then Stu McGregor shows up at their draft table, it’s going to look awfully suspicious.

    Just sayin’.

  101. theres oil in virginia says:

    stephen sheps: UTC (Chattanooga)

    I think you’ll like it there. It’s beautiful. The Smoky Mountains in your back yard.

  102. Connorrhea says:

    Can someone tweet Gregor that the Canadiens had three consecutive first rounders in ’68?

    At least, I think that’s who is on 1260, saying this is the first time in NHL history that one team has had three consec picks.

  103. oliveoilers says:

    Dean Lombardi @DeanLombardi 23m ago

    Salary Cap, Schmalary Cap. Honestly, I thought it was the Commissioner’s ceremonial hat.

  104. theres oil in virginia says:

    Lowetide: He should be able to use two of them in an effort to move into the top 10. OR he can take three players Edmonton might want! I’m kidding, despite the weird Calgary trade, one suspects the Bruins won’t damage their own future just to be dinks.

    As an aside, I am feeling a little wonky on today. I like BOTH teams a lot so this day has been straaaange. Bruins are going down, Oil apparently on the way up.

    I’m even Steven!

    Quick, mail me $100!

  105. rich says:

    theres oil in virginia: I think you’ll like it there.It’s beautiful.The Smoky Mountains in your back yard.

    When you get off the interstate and get into downtown Chattanooga it’s actually very nice. Tennessee River cuts right thru the city. Mountains wrap the city and it sits in a bowl. Fall colors are great.

    Only 2 hours to Nashville to catch the Oil when they’re here in October.

  106. oliveoilers says:

    Lackadaisical:
    @reporterchris Don Sweeney: “We extended Dougie a very significant contract offer and it didn’t lead us where I thought it would.”

    What?

    Then you let some schmuck OS him and say “thanks and good luck, Dougie.”

  107. theres oil in virginia says:

    spoiler:
    Eric Stephens ‏@icemancometh· 17m17 minutes ago
    Eakins: “Getting back to the NHL is the last thing on my mind right now.”

    It’s the last thing on the NHL’s mind too.

  108. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Connorrhea: Smid.

    1) fits like a glove in Edmonton, exactly what they need
    2) had for dirt cheap
    3) went to Calgary! Calgary!!!

    on a day the hockey gods shine upon Edmonton, they also bring showers

  109. theres oil in virginia says:

    leadfarmer:
    spoiler,

    In response the NHL was overheard saying the last thing on our mind is Eakins ever having a coaching position again.

    Nice, I’m just a few minutes behind you.

  110. spoiler says:

    Greg WyshynskiVerified account
    ‏@wyshynski I might actually have less an idea why Sweeney made the Calgary deal than before he started talking.

  111. theres oil in virginia says:

    Boondock: Getting Dallas Eakins back is the last thing on the NHL’s mind too.

    Ha! And you.

  112. oliveoilers says:

    Lone Wolf McQuaid: The answer to the defensive problems you didn’t know you had until you traded your franchise d-man for 2003 Honda Civic.

  113. Connorrhea says:

    spoiler:
    Greg WyshynskiVerified account
    ‏@wyshynski I might actually have less an idea why Sweeney made the Calgary deal than before he started talking.

    Ha! I wonder if he used any good catch-phrases, like ‘bold moves’ or ‘visually better’?

  114. theres oil in virginia says:

    rich: When you get off the interstate and get into downtown Chattanooga it’s actually very nice.Tennessee River cuts right thru the city.Mountains wrap the city and it sits in a bowl.Fall colors are great.

    Only 2 hours to Nashville to catch the Oil when they’re here in October.

    Yep. I think Sheps has hit the spot.

  115. vinotintazo says:

    I want to watch the draft but have no TV, anyone have a link? lol help!

  116. Younger Oil says:

    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 51s52 seconds ago

    Chiarelli and Sather just broke from another discussion. Slats now meeting with his group. Has to be about Talbot

  117. Gerta Rauss says:

    Dead Guy Ale from Rogue brewery this afternoon. First beer is a little bitter but I think Brian Burke is responsible for that.

    It’s not ruining my day though.

    Woot

  118. Wolfie says:

    vinotintazo,

    That’s constructive

  119. Mtl-oiler says:

    It looks like there was no way Boston was going to deal with PC in any case.

    What Edm should have done is on Wednesday had PC step down for “personal reasons” and then have the 2nd in charge take over. MacT then makes the trade for Hamilton, say the 16, 33, 57 and a 2016 2nd.
    After the deal is finalized PC announces his personal issues have been resolved and is back in charge.

  120. Clay says:

    Haggerty on Gregor now saying Hamilton was looking “way north” of 5.5m x 8yrs. More like Drew Doughty money.

  121. Richard S.S. says:

    If someone can tell me why Chiarelli was fired, then look at what Boston is doing and then tell me why Chiarelli was fired.

  122. square_wheels says:

    rich: When you get off the interstate and get into downtown Chattanooga it’s actually very nice.Tennessee River cuts right thru the city.Mountains wrap the city and it sits in a bowl.Fall colors are great.

    Only 2 hours to Nashville to catch the Oil when they’re here in October.

    Check out the Mammoth Caves in central Kentucky, one of the most memorable day trips in all my years travelling. Remarkable place and the story of how the first white man stumbled on to it is incredible.

  123. speeds says:

    What would people have thought of an offer of 16, 57, and 2016 1st, top 10 protected for Hamilton?

  124. Lucinius says:

    Richard S.S.,

    Simple. Office politics. Anyone who’s dealt with it knows intelligence and competency hardly win in that environment compared to.. certain other skill sets.

  125. John Chambers says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    Who was the last young talented defenseman to be traded?

    Probably Dion Phaneuf.

  126. 106 and 106 says:

    Mtl-oiler,

    You wanted to give the helm to Mac-T again?

    There are 29 other GM’s who wanted to know what they did to miss out on a bargain like that.

    Wasn’t just that Chia was fleeced.

  127. John Chambers says:

    speeds:
    What would people have thought of an offer of 16, 57, and 2016 1st, top 10 protected for Hamilton?

    You make that deal without thinking twice.

  128. spoiler says:

    speeds:
    What would people have thought of an offer of 16, 57, and 2016 1st, top 10 protected for Hamilton?

    We already offered more than Calgary.

  129. oliveoilers says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Dead Guy Ale from Rogue brewery this afternoon. First beer is a little bitter but I think Brian Burke is responsible for that.

    It’s not ruining my day though.

    Woot

    Arrogant Bastard Ale……In memory of a certain ex-POHO and his crew.

  130. Rip Fan Winkle says:

    Clay:
    Haggerty on Gregor now saying Hamilton was looking “way north” of 5.5m x 8yrs.More like Drew Doughty money.

    Sometimes things work out for the good. DH at 8-9 M is a team killer despite his merits. It wasn’t PK carrying the load in Montreal when the chips were down.

  131. Wolfie says:

    speeds:
    What would people have thought of an offer of 16, 57, and 2016 1st, top 10 protected for Hamilton?

    I’m fine with that. The idea is to improve now and be competitive right away. Those picks can be replaced later on when you have to make decisions on extending guys….

    As Boston has shown today you can grab 1st round picks with established NHLers. There shouldn’t be any problem retooling with the wealth of talent the Oilers now have.

  132. stephen sheps says:

    theres oil in virginia,

    square_wheels,

    rich,

    Indeed, thanks gents. These are all great suggestions. I’m excited to move. Mostly.

    And now to join a couple Toronto oilers fans. Thrown on my yakupov jersey to celebrate the passing of the #1ov torch to the next one.

  133. v4ance says:

    Recap of Chiarelli’s appearance on NHL Network

    Q: WIll u trade #1 pick
    A: No (laughs)

    Q: How much of an impact can McDavid have for Oilers right away in October
    A: He’s going to be terrific player, with a lot of dimensions. Trying to lower expectations on this junket to ease pressure. Impressed by playoff performance and how Connor carried team on his back. Excited to draft him! Impact early? With his age and size, expects it’ll take some time for him to get comfortable but he’ll get up to speed in a hurry with his head hands and legs.

    Q: Thinking on 16 OV? GO get a goalie with it?
    A: Fielding offers for 16th but looking like we’ll draft a player that we like there. At some point we’ll have to get a goalie. Lotsa goalies out there via trade or UFA and we’re exploring all options. We’re trying to improve our entire collective back end which is goalie our D and our systems. Gotta look at whole thing as a package. Easy to say, just go get elite goalie and you’ll be okay but it doesn’t work that way. Looking at how we’re building it, we’ve got good coaches in place, drilling down in this stuff and we’re hitting the market. Shopping period was yesterday and there’s trades going on .. we’re fully entrenched here and we gonna come out and we’re gonna come out well.

    Q: Identity of the team. Boston is heavy. Edmonton different personnel group. As GM what is Edmonton Oiler’s identity going forward.
    A: All GMs want players to play hard, win battles, etc. Instill it in practice and it becomes a theme. Different conference, different style. Play is trending to more speed, less obstruction. Speed factor is there. Don’t have the personnel from what I am used to but still wants team to play hard in our own fashion. Play hard, strip pucks, in position to take a hit, make sacrifices to make plays. Baby steps. Play hard, close hard, defend hard and when that’s a part of the mentality that’s how we ratchet up our game.

    I pruned and paraphrased questions and answers for clarity but it’s obvious Chiarelli is trying to very diplomatic and answer without trying to reveal too much.

  134. Lowetide says:

    speeds:
    What would people have thought of an offer of 16, 57, and 2016 1st, top 10 protected for Hamilton?

    I’m not opposed to it, really like the protection portion.

  135. Ben says:

    Whaddya give for Rask? Shannon dropping bombs.

  136. Lowetide says:

    Ben:
    Whaddya give for Rask? Shannon dropping bombs.

    I think it would have to be Eberle. Yakupov isn’t enough.

  137. theres oil in virginia says:

    v4ance,

    Thanks.

  138. v4ance says:

    Lowetide: I’m not opposed to it, really like the protection portion.

    Darren Dreger on NHL Network panel after Chiarelli. Basically inferred that Edmonton’s offer for Hamilton was better than Calgary’s offer but Boston didn’t want to deal with Chia.

    Panel also asked, WHY trade Hamilton if they were trading Lucic? Once Lucic traded, they had room to keep Hamilton!

  139. Wolfie says:

    John Shannon just threw out the possibility of Rask to the Oilers….

    I saw a tweet out there that mentioned Chiarelli was driving up the prices on Hamilton and Lucic. I wonder if perhaps he was doing his old club a favour while trying to weaken current competition… Hard to see when Calgary gets Hamilton…

  140. Ben says:

    Yeah, you’d have to think the Bruins are gonna take back a warm body at some point, here.

    I do Eberle for Rask.

  141. zatch says:

    Rask is an actual, honest god, high end goalie. Eberle can move for that.

  142. square_wheels says:

    v4ance,

    A family member of Eberle’s that I work with, has indicated on multiple occasions in the past year, the Bruins covet #14. Curious if Chia leaving brought that desire with him, or if it’s rooted in another part of their leadership group?

  143. v4ance says:

    Jen LC ‏@RegressedPDO
    So, now the Kings can’t re-sign Sekera and traded away their best D-prospect… I’m kind of confused about this

    David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod
    Kings may not be done dealing… But also told by close source that they aren’t close to signing Andrej Sekera, who can become UFA July 1.

    Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper
    O’Reilly to #sabres close.

  144. Oiln5 says:

    zatch,

    There’s no such thing as a high end NHL goalie infront of an AHL calibre defense. Ask Dubnyk.

  145. Ben says:

    MacT sitting at Peaches’ right hand…

  146. Ben says:

    Connor McJesus and his dad will be interviewed by Kelly Hrudey after he’s selected.

    The father. The son. And the goalie host.

  147. square_wheels says:

    If Buff has Oreilly and Eichel as their top 2 C, that’s going to cause some serious eastern conference envy.

    Whoever drafts the Harkins boy is getting a very determined and talented player, nice feature.

  148. Scotty LaDouche says:

    Ben:
    Connor McJesus and his dad will be interviewed by Kelly Hrudey after he’s selected.

    The father. The son. And the goalie host.

    *slowclap*

  149. Wolfie says:

    Ha ha Ben!

  150. G Money says:

    Ben,

    Fuckin hilarious!

  151. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Ben:
    Connor McJesus and his dad will be interviewed by Kelly Hrudey after he’s selected.

    The father. The son. And the goalie host.

    ok thread winner

  152. Connorrhea says:

    Ben: interviewed by Kelly Hrudey

    I’m on hockeysteams, can select NBC feed. They basically hired most of the TSN guys to do it for them.

  153. v4ance says:

    Elliotte Friedman‏@FriedgeHNIC
    Hearing BUF considering Zadorov, Grigorenko and 31st pick for O’Reilly.

    CHIARELLI CALL TIM MURRAY! OFFER HIM NIKITIN! HE’S STILL ON SHROOMS!

    David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 47s47 seconds ago
    O’Reilly is a Sabre

  154. theres oil in virginia says:

    The only question to ask one’s self is: “Would you trade the 3rd overall pick in the 2015 NHL draft for the 1st overall pick in the 2015 NHL draft?”

    The answer is, of course: “WOOOOOOOOOOOOT”

  155. spoiler says:

    Ben,

    Shut down the internet! Well done Ben.

  156. Connorrhea says:

    v4ance: Zadorov, Grigorenko and 31st pick for O’Reilly.

    Okay okay – I promise to never again assume that the crazy has reached it’s limits.

  157. Connorrhea says:

    LadiesloveSmid: ok thread winner

    Hmmm – you missed Rex from the 1st page, I think.

  158. leadfarmer says:

    Omg Woooooot. This is finally the day,

    Lawson Crouse becomes an oiler.

  159. jake70 says:

    Didn’t watch the Cup presentation…..did Bettman get booed again…..likely will happen tonight…man thatn is getting old.

  160. Connorrhea says:

    MacT – right beside Katz.

  161. godot10 says:

    Connorrhea:
    MacT – right beside Katz.

    The king always has his fool beside him.

  162. v4ance says:

    Michael Grossi ‏@mgrossiTFP 3m3 minutes ago
    Oilers and Rangers trying to finalize Talbot deal. Not done yet.

  163. spoiler says:

    That must be a really short podium

  164. Captain Smarmy says:

    jake70:
    Didn’t watch the Cup presentation…..did Bettman get booed again…..likely will happen tonight…man thatn is getting old.

    Nah its great.

  165. sliderule says:

    I told all you young fellows there would be no trades between Oilers and Bruins.

    This is confirmed today.Lots of bad feelings between Chia and Neely.

  166. v4ance says:

    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 27s28 seconds ago
    Zadorov, Grigorenko, No. 31, mJT Compher for RYan Oreilly and Jamie McGinn.

  167. Derek says:

    I’m back! Is Karlsson an Oiler yet?!?

    Jack Eichel has a face that’s easy to hate, he looks like a Diehard villain. So glad my team gets the better, Canadian version. 🙂

  168. jake70 says:

    Captain Smarmy: Nah its great.

    Yeah you are right… I take that back. And yes Gary, we realize hockey exists in south Florida – no need to mention it every 20 seconds.

  169. Connorrhea says:

    Captain Smarmy: Nah its great.

    I’m okay with it.

  170. jake70 says:

    Lol, McDavid joking he is going to throw up.

  171. LadiesloveSmid says:

    here we go!!!!!!

    WOOOOOOOOOOOTTTT

  172. Lackadaisical says:

    My heart rate is alarming.

    IT’S HAPPENING! CMD!

  173. Oil2Oilers (formerly VanOil) says:

    Is rookie camp in Jasper again this year?

  174. square_wheels says:

    godot10,

    Gold star sticker and cheeseburger smelly sticker for you !!!

  175. LadiesloveSmid says:

    MCDAVID!!!!!!!! AN OILER!!

  176. The Hermit says:

    It’s done.

  177. Visually better says:

    DARRYL KATZ’ SON IS SKINNY!!!!! BACK OUT, DRAFT CROUSE ITS A TRAP’!!!! #voodoo

  178. jake70 says:

    Have that damn ELC ready…!! lol

  179. 106 and 106 says:

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!

  180. The Hermit says:

    City of Flordia Chia?

  181. LadiesloveSmid says:

    new oilers jersey that we all expected unveiled

  182. square_wheels says:

    Fuck I’m emotional.

  183. G Money says:

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!

  184. Psyche says:

    It’s a great day to be an Oilers fan!

  185. The Finnish Flash says:

    Unbelievable feeling after these past sour years. 97 looks pretty good in the brand new jerseys.

  186. Derek says:

    Most importantly, it looks as though Connor has no sideburns.

  187. Scotty LaDouche says:

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOsuckitcalgaryOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

  188. Gerta Rauss says:

    This ale is no longer bitter

  189. DenverOilFan says:

    City of Florida!! Is it a good sign that PC is nervous too?

  190. OilSafety says:

    Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

  191. Connorrhea says:

    WOT? MURRAY?

  192. The Hermit says:

    Kid is quietly very confident .

  193. Lowetide says:

    New post up!

  194. till_horcoff_is_coach says:

    Tim Murray is awesome. Would cry myself to sleep if he was involved with the oil, but he sure does give entertainment for every other team in the league.

  195. Death By Misadventure says:

    Ben,

    Nice.

  196. uni says:

    You know I said I’d stay away until the Oilers cleaned house. Never thought I’d live to see this day.

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