RE-MAKE/RE-MODEL

Peter Chiarelli owes it to Todd McLellan. The Oilers owe it to their fans. The organization owes it to Connor McDavid. The Edmonton Oilers have to turn north, next season. The new GM has added a goaltender, two defensemen, a speedy checker and Connor McDavid, but he needs to add more. There’s talk of tweaking, but beginning today Chiarelli will need to search the market for a top defender—and then pay the price when the opportunity arises. In his first full season as Boston Bruins’ GM, Chiarelli added Andrew Ference, Aaron Ward and Dennis Wideman via trade. Later, the club acquired Johnny Boychuk and Dennis Seidenberg. That’s a lot of defensive talent and of course they drafted Dougie Hamilton, signed Zdeno Chara and Torey Krug as free agents during Chiarelli’s time in Beantown. He’ll need to accomplish similar to make the Oilers hum and he’ll need to add something significant as soon as the market allows. That’s my opinion.

OILERS CURRENT ROSTER (50-MAN)

oilers depth chart july 1

The Korpikoski signing gives Edmonton another fast winger, a veteran who can play a two-way game. I feel like we’ve been talking about getting a Pisani forever, and remain perplexed by the group that did play this role over the years (Ryan Jones, Lennart Petrell, Matt Fraser) because none of them had the two-way game to accomplish the goal. Put another way, for the last five seasons (Jones was a regular in 2010-11) Edmonton used the 3L as an ‘extra bat in the lineup’ position and the impact was profound. I’m not absolutely convinced on Korpikoski (his last two seasons have been wobbly) but am pleased that his reputation includes speed and a solid knowledge of hockey away from the puck.

korpikoski statsKorpikoski’s 12-13 season was the best in recent memory and he played with veterans David Moss and Antoine Vermette. This past season, he was most often part of a trio that included Sam Gagner and Kyle Chipchura, although his possession numbers weren’t strong with any forward in 2014-15. Korpikoski turns 29 in July, so the injury issues he had this past season shouldn’t derail his career and his foot speed from all reports remains a strength. I’m in a bit of wonder about his even-strength performance last season (one EV goal) and would strong suggest that’s going to filter back to the norm. I like Korpikoski, and especially like the balance and structure he (potentially) gives the roster. He fits better (imo)  with a McLellan team because there’s something of the Swiss Army knife to him (can play all three FWD positions and in all three disciplines) so for me this is a justifiable trade and a good bet. It solves one of the Chiarelli issues but adds another.

CHIARELLI’S LIST

  1. Draft McDavid (Done)
  2. Find a quality goalie option (Cam Talbot)
  3. Acquire a legit top pairing blue (Sekera, Franson, Ehrhoff)
  4. Sign a two-way F (Lauri Korpikoski)
  5. Ignore MacT re: Marincin (Or trade Marincin for real value) Eric Gryba
  6. ADD: Veteran two-way center

So, that’s the list and we’ll see how it rolls. Chiarelli has a player not on my list (quality D prospect in Griffin Reinhart) but I think that had more to do with getting another blue who was older than McDavid (while still being under control for years) and that’s a very good idea. Remember last night when I mentioned the idea that Chiarelli would stand pat on D was ridiculous? Well, he’s going to be aggressive:

I like the list, although Green’s price scares the hell out of me. He would qualify as a Chiarelli target under the ‘Chara plan’ but they are not similar talents (Chara had more to give defensively, by some margin). Sekera is the best target in my opinion, let’s see how this works out and I wouldn’t discount a trade either (Burns, Shattenkirk, et cetera).

POSSIBLE TARGETS 2015 (BLUE)

  1. D Andrej Sekera (The best available)
  2. D Cody Franson (His numbers suggest this could be a brilliant buy)
  3. D Christian Ehrhoff (Concussions a worry, I like him enough to take the risk)
  4. D Mike Green (So very expensive, so very famous)
  5. D Paul Martin (He would be a solid transitional defenseman)
  6. D Zbynek Michalek (Strong defenseman, would be a find addition)
  7. D Johnny Oduya (I like him, he was a mess for a stretch last season)
  8. D John Moore (I’d add him along with someone else on this list)
  9. D Barrett Jackman (I’ll bet money they’re all over him)

POSSIBLE TARGETS 2015 (CENTER)

  1. C Eric Fehr (Clicks off all the boxes: C, size, offensive ability. A nice option)
  2. C Mike Santorelli (I like him as a plug and play, short term option)
  3. C Riley Nash (He’s good in the FO circle, has some offense, good size. Nice option)
  4. C Mark Arcobello (Go to hell, he’s a good hockey player)
  5. C Kyle Brodziak (A reasonable depth option)
  6. C Shawn Horcoff (His wheels won’t turn, but I’ll gladly go down with the ship)

My winger list from yesterday applies and of course if they grab a goalie I’d be surprised but you never know. Peter Chiarelli waited until draft weekend to make his moves, and since then he has added:

  1. Cam Talbot (Starting goalie)
  2. Griffin Reinhart (NHL-ready blue)
  3. Eric Gryba (Third-pairing defender)
  4. Lauri Korpikoski (Two-way winger)
  5. Connor McDavid (Generational talent)

He gets no credit for McDavid (but does benefit from CMD’s presence) and it’s interesting to note that ENTERING free agency the Oilers will have turned over 22 per cent of their roster. Peter Chiarelli isn’t sitting back, he’s aggressively pursuing what is available in the market. We’re not going to like every move, or every price, and some of this isn’t going to work out. Lauri Korpikoski may fail in the ‘new Pisani’ role, but I’m genuinely heartened the Oilers are at least trying to pursue balance on the roster. Remake/Remodel? Chiarelli’s not taking it all down to the studs, but the hammer is in motion.

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  1. godot10 says:

    Craig Button and I agree on Franson. i.e. That he is horrible. I don’t know if this is good or bad.

  2. su_dhillon says:

    striatic:
    su_dhillon,

    He’s a media guy.

    He *has* to speculate on the Oilers doing something today or else he’ll have nothing to talk about.

    Maybe it is a smoke/fire situation but it is just as likely he is speculating for the sake of speculation.

    He works for team and efinitely ‘hears’ things. For him to turn around so quickly something is brewing for sure

  3. geowal says:

    Klima’s_Bucket:
    Taylor Chorney to the Caps, I thought his career was done after “the shift” with Strudwick.

    Yeah I didn’t think he was in the league anymore, good for him.

  4. John Chambers says:

    v4ance:
    Renaud Lavoie ‏@renlavoietva10s10 seconds ago View translation
    #avalanche François Beauchemin 3 years / $4.5 AAV #tvasports

    ANA didn’t want to give Beauchemin the 3rd year which is how he ends up in COL

    Based on that my guess is Paul Martin gets $6M x 4 or 5.

  5. russ99 says:

    Ah, Taylor Chorney.

    The “Shift of Doom” lives on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZqpW9KTJXo

  6. Oil2Oilers (formerly VanOil) says:

    Woodguy: That was a fake Bob McKenzie account that tweeted that.

    Franson isn’t signed yet.

    As I mentioned new to twitter!

  7. geowal says:

    Sekera?! I’ll take it. (per tsn)

    edit: tsn also saying Letestu coming.

  8. Braden88 says:

    sekera and letestu????

  9. v4ance says:

    Gord Miller reporting live:

    Letestu 3yrs
    Sekera long term deal

    SOON!

  10. frjohnk says:

    Sekara and Letestu to the oilers

  11. zatch says:

    Looks like Letestu and Sekerea inbound. Thoughts?

  12. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    I wouldn’t mind Letestu for 3 years if he’s cheap, but Sekera long-term? Meh. Injury issues, declining production.

  13. russ99 says:

    Sekera and Letestu?

    Wow, Chia ain’t messing around. 😀

  14. kinger_OIL says:

    Van -I too am new to twitter: following the draft, now this I just signed up: 43 year old former twitter virgin!

  15. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Letestu had 27P in 46GP during the lockout. Right shot centre from Elk Point. I like it.

    Let’s hope for under 6.5M for Sekera

  16. Braden88 says:

    love ferarro’s analysis on Latestu,

    “No More gifting of jobs”

    hell yah!

  17. "Steve Smith" says:

    1. Woodguy’s avatar looks nothing like Alfred Hitchcock (for example, it has hair). It’s always reminded me of Leonard Cohen, even though it doesn’t look a lot like him, either (the face is too elongated).
    2. Winner of the thread so far is Tire Fire for his Lloyd Bentsen reference.
    3. I can’t help but feel that nothing that comes out of today will be good news.

  18. su_dhillon says:

    Sekera get is tetrrific!

  19. prairieschooner says:

    Sorry Woodguy

    I always thought your avatar was Norm from Cheers

  20. Braden88 says:

    Letestu, and Sekera soon

    just add J. Willliams and i am a happy man!

  21. v4ance says:

    Renaud Lavoie
    ‏@renlavoietva
    No movement clause for François Beauchemin with the Avalanche. #tvasports

    Fake Ian McWood ‏@ibleedoil 2m2 minutes ago
    Fake Ian McWood retweeted Renaud Lavoie
    Of course it’s a no movement clause, he’s old and slow.

    Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 54s55 seconds ago
    2008 first-round draft pick Viktor Tikhonov, returning to NHL after four seasons in Russia, is closing in on a deal with CHI.

  22. doritogrande says:

    Is this actually happening? Are we going to get a top UFA D who wasn’t born in Alberta (Souray)?

    I kind of don’t even care about dollars, Sekera fits the absolute need.

  23. John Chambers says:

    su_dhillon:
    Sekera get is tetrrific!

    Oilers in the playoff conversation as a result of this and Talbot.

    Not necessarily in, but meaningful games in December for sure.

  24. Jon K says:

    Vollman says that Letestu has played tough zone starts but lesser competition. Seems like pure 4C usage. His rel corsi is bad bad bad taking on that role.

    Don’t care for that move nearly as much as Sekera.

  25. frjohnk says:

    Letestu brings a bit more offense than Gordon.
    Was 53% on the dot last year.

  26. "Steve Smith" says:

    doritogrande: I kind of don’t even care about dollars, Sekera fits the absolute need.

    I care a lot about dollars, and am a little terrified to see them.

  27. geowal says:

    1. D Andrej Sekera (The best available)

    If this goes through it’ll be the first time in forever we signed the “best available” at anything.

  28. kinger_OIL says:

    wiki has letestu as an oiler!

  29. OilSafety says:

    What info do we have on Letestu other than he is a right handed shot centerman 30 years old. Face off %? Two way game im assuming?

  30. "Steve Smith" says:

    doritogrande:
    Is this actually happening? Are we going to get a top UFA D who wasn’t born in Alberta (Souray)?

    Souray…wasn’t he that fellow from Elk Point, home of Mark Letestu?

  31. flygoalie says:

    Sekara @ 5.5 for 5, Purcell, Shultz & pick to SJ for Burns

    Poulliot RNH Eberle
    Hall MCD Yak
    Korpo Lander Pitlick
    Hendricks Letestu Klinkhammer

    Sekara Burns
    Klefbom Fayne
    Nikki Gyrba
    Ference

  32. geowal says:

    John Chambers: Oilers in the playoff conversation as a result of this and Talbot.

    Not necessarily in, but meaningful games in December for sure.

    Imagine if they were meaningful in February, or, gasp, April!

  33. striatic says:

    zatch,

    depends a lot on money + term but both are decent enough players.

  34. John Chambers says:

    frjohnk:
    Letestu brings a bit more offense than Gordon.
    Was 53% on the dot last year.

    At least we won’t start the season with Taylor Hall at centre.

  35. oliveoilers says:

    “Steve Smith”: . I can’t help but feel that nothing that comes out of today will be good news.

    Does that mean that anything that comes out of today will be good news? 😉

  36. doritogrande says:

    Man, Letestu is only 5’10”. Let’s hope he can scoot.

  37. Braden88 says:

    Letestu PPG last 3 years

    12-13 : .54
    13-14 : .41
    14-15 : .24

  38. Connorrhea says:

    “Steve Smith”: I care a lot about dollars, and am a little terrified to see them.

    I love dollars, and I recently set them free.

    Still waiting…

  39. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Letestu played 2:41/GP on the PK last season. Good in the dot. Doesn’t look like he can handle the competition that Gordon did. RNH’s back may hurt carrying that entire load this year.

    Sign another centre, and WOOOOOT McDavid+Sekera!!

  40. John Chambers says:

    “Steve Smith”: I care a lot about dollars, and am a little terrified to see them.

    My guess is his AAV starts with a 6. Which will be higher, but still within range of Nikita Nikitin’s.

  41. frjohnk says:

    John Chambers: At least we won’t start the season with Taylor Hall at centre.

    or bring Ryan Smyth back to play the 4th line center role.

  42. striatic says:

    I am fine with an overpay on Sekera given the desperation at the position but Letestu better come cheap.

  43. "Steve Smith" says:

    John Chambers: My guess is his AAV starts with a 6. Which will be higher, but still within range of Nikita Nikitin’s.

    I’m a little frightened of term, too, since all that’s being reported so far in that regard (correct me if I’m wrong) is “long-“.

  44. John Chambers says:

    “Steve Smith”: I’m a little frightened of term, too, since all that’s being reported so far in that regard (correct me if I’m wrong) is “long-“.

    Don’t worry about that part. They’ll plant a meth lab on his property and get the contract voided when his contract becomes untradable.

  45. Oiln5 says:

    Loving all the buy low moves from Chia. No way Yak is dealt.

  46. v4ance says:

    John Chambers: My guess is his AAV starts with a 6. Which will be higher, but still within range of Nikita Nikitin’s.

    He was close to re-signing with LA for “only” $4.75AAV.

    For me, if Sekera signs for anything with a number starting with “5” it’s a home run.

    I guess I win my bet with DSF.

  47. Oil2Oilers (formerly VanOil) says:

    kinger_OIL:
    Van -I too am new to twitter: following the draft, now this I just signed up: 43 year old former twitter virgin!

    Whats your handle?

  48. oliveoilers says:

    DSF, didn’t you ‘Book It’ for your best buddy Lombardi to lock up Sekera?

  49. v4ance says:

    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 1m1 minute ago
    Done deal. Paul Martin has agreed to a four-year deal with the San Jose Sharks.

  50. Braden88 says:

    Paul Martin to Sharks

  51. Gordies Elbow says:

    striatic:
    I am fine with an overpay on Sekera given the desperation at the position but Letestu better come cheap.

    For Letestu, I’d say that 4.75/3, 1.58m AAV, would be around the range.

    Sekera? Could see 33.75/5, 6.75m AAV. Ouch, but it’s free agents are always expensive.

  52. frjohnk says:

    Paul Martin to the Sharks 4 years

  53. Profit says:

    Does Martin replace a hole or is possible there is a SJ trade potential?

  54. "Steve Smith" says:

    v4ance: I guess I win my bet with DSF.

    There was no bet with DSF.

  55. Магия 10 says:

    “Steve Smith”: I’m a little frightened of term, too, since all that’s being reported so far in that regard (correct me if I’m wrong) is “long-“.

    Turn North. Not that North.

  56. Woodguy says:

    Freidman has it now.

    Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 2m2 minutes ago
    EDM is closing in on a deal with Mark Letestu in addition to Sekera.

  57. su_dhillon says:

    v4ance: He was close to re-signing with LA for “only”$4.75AAV.

    For me, if Sekera signs for anything with a number starting with “5” it’s a home run.

    I guess I win my bet with DSF.

    Agree, 5 years @ 5.5 would be my guess and I would be very happy with that

  58. Braden88 says:

    v4ance:
    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun1m1 minute ago
    Done deal. Paul Martin has agreed to a four-year deal with the San Jose Sharks.

    Maybe Vlasic or Burns shake loose now.

    can they please be that stupid? Please God!

  59. smellyglove says:

    Sekera played top pairing mins for Car for last two years (at least). Played #6 minutes in LA this year, once he was traded there.

    Looks like he plays a lot of special teams too… 2 min PK and PP.

  60. Woodguy says:

    “Steve Smith”: There was no bet with DSF.

    There is no spoon

  61. Магия 10 says:

    “Steve Smith”: There was no bet with DSF.

    Saw his offer. Missed the acceptance.

  62. John Chambers says:

    Profit:
    Does Martin replace a hole or is possible there is a SJ trade potential?

    Sign Sekara and then trade Schultz + 1st rd pick for Brent Burns and I’ll smile all July.

  63. OilSafety says:

    su_dhillon,

    Come on guys, shoot for the moon. Don’t be afraid to be optimistic. Were turning a corner, 5.25×5 and a trade for another D soon. Shattenkirk/Burns anyone. Fingers crossed!

  64. Woodguy says:

    frjohnk:
    Paul Martin to the Sharks 4 years

    He’ll be 38 at the end of that.

    Probably ok for 2 of the 4 years.

  65. fifthcartel says:

    5.5m for 6 years? I like that.

  66. Braden88 says:

    John Chambers: Sign Sekara and then trade Schultz + 1st rd pick for Brent Burns and I’ll smile all July.

    Yes Please!

  67. Woodguy says:

    John Chambers: At least we won’t start the season with Taylor Hall at centre.

    Christ.

    What a fucking gong show last year.

  68. Barcs says:

    I’m alright with Letestu. Former Bonnyville Pontiac.

    Would have preferred Eric Fehr, if for no other reason than that the guy wrote his own children’s book.

  69. SumOil says:

    flygoalie,

    lets trade our shit for their gold. totally gonna work

  70. oilfan9911 says:

    6 years x $5.5MM per Ward on Sekera

  71. Profit says:

    Sekera 6×5.5 nmc

  72. v4ance says:

    oliveoilers:
    DSF, didn’t you ‘Book It’ for your best buddy Lombardi to lock up Sekera?

    He totally did and he challenged me to a “woodguy” bet? I have no idea what that is.

    I did worry that LA might circle back to Sekera but knowing that Kopitar is UFA next year, I could reasonbly forecast that they wouldn’t waste the precious cap $$$ on Sekera versus saving them to re-sign Kopitar next season.

  73. Woodguy says:

    Ryan Rishaug ‏@TSNRyanRishaug 32s32 seconds ago
    Oilers have landed Sekera

  74. frjohnk says:

    Ward says 6 years at $5.5 million for Sekara

  75. Woodguy says:

    Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 1m1 minute ago
    Sekera done to EDM. six years, $5.5M AAV and a no-move clause.

  76. striatic says:

    6 years .. eep.

    Really like the player. Showed he can play well on a bad team with Caroline but .. eep.

    6 years.

  77. "Steve Smith" says:

    $5.5 million is better than expected; I can live with that. It’s an overpay, but overpays are customary both for July 1 and for teams that are absolutely desperate to get at least one top four defenceman on their roster, I guess. I’m giving this a lowercase “woo”.

  78. Woodguy says:

    v4ance: He totally did and he challenged me to a “woodguy” bet?I have no idea what that is.

    I did worry that LA might circle back to Sekera but knowing that Kopitar is UFA next year, I could reasonbly forecast that they wouldn’t waste the precious cap $$$ on Sekera versus saving them to re-sign Kopitar next season.

    A “woodguy” is $100

  79. su_dhillon says:

    6 years 33 mil according to Freidman. 5.5 AAV. Very happy with the deal and PCS work today

  80. Connorrhea says:

    v4ance: he challenged me to a “woodguy” bet? I have no idea what that is.

    Have you ever heard of the Bonesmen, and the coffin?

  81. Woodguy says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    $5.5 million is better than expected; I can live with that.It’s an overpay, but overpays are customary both for July 1 and for teams that are absolutely desperate to get at least one top four defenceman on their roster, I guess.I’m giving this a lowercase “woo”.

    I think a capitalized Woot is in order.

    Woot!

    Yes, an exclamation point too!

    Smart management is unfamiliar.

  82. "Steve Smith" says:

    v4ance: He totally did

    He did not.

  83. doritogrande says:

    Sekera 6×5.5 nmc

    I’m in. Good deal for your top pair guy.

    Slots in with Fayne at evens, takes PP time?

  84. Braden88 says:

    Can we really expect Sekera to be WORTH a Top 2 spot and 5.5million for 6 years?

  85. John Chambers says:

    We have a top-4 defenseman! We have a top-4 defenseman!

    Please sir may we have another?

  86. striatic says:

    Woodguy: and a no-move clause.

    I think this is irrelevant for the Oilers.

    If the Oilers are looking to move Sekera, it means they remain terrible. If they remain terrible, he’ll want out, and to pretty much anywhere.

  87. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Played with Teste in Bonnyville.
    Great player even better person.
    Happy to have him back in Oil country.

  88. Магия 10 says:

    3 2 1
    dsf on why François > Sekera

  89. Gret99zky says:

    Sekera did not sign with the Kings.

    Rubbing it in, in 3-2-1…

  90. Woodguy says:

    Brennan Klak ‏@nhlupdate 3s3 seconds ago
    Flyers sign Michal Neuvirth to a 2 year deal

    That’s one target missed.

  91. "Steve Smith" says:

    striatic: If the Oilers are looking to move Sekera, it means they remain terrible.

    Or (later in the contract) that he has become terrible.

    Does the current CBA allow NMCs for just a portion of the contract?

  92. "Steve Smith" says:

    TSN says we’ve signed an RFA defenceman named “Mark Letestu” for three years; I wonder if he’s any relation to that UFA centre we were pursuing.

  93. striatic says:

    Letestu at 3 years seems like a guy you might flip after year 1 if you get the bounce back year.

  94. Messier11edm says:

    Every time I get excited about an oiler addition, the flames find a way to dampen it…seems like the got Frolik

  95. Магия 10 says:

    Woodguy: A “woodguy” is $100

    Nice if you had accepted. Optional protocol is for loser to donate to this blog.

  96. Woodguy says:

    Bob McKenzieVerified account
    ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
    CGY on verge of getting Michael Frolik signed on a long term deal.

    Uggh.

    CAL is smart and it scares me.

  97. doritogrande says:

    Neuvirth came bargain basement cheap. This year’s Halak?

  98. John Chambers says:

    This is already a much much better team than the one that got iced on opening night last October.

    Our decade of misery is truly over.

  99. square_wheels says:

    Sweet baby Jesus we signed a D.

    And our second Elk Point born player…..lets hope this ends better than the first guy’s departure out of town.

  100. striatic says:

    “Steve Smith”: Or (later in the contract) that he has become terrible.

    If Sekera becomes terrible, the Oilers will be terrible.

    Contract takes him to 35 .. eep.

    Well, that’s the future.

  101. Gret99zky says:

    Woodguy: Christ.

    What a fucking gong show last year.

    Fact.

    Smart Hockey Men, my ass.

  102. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Sekera-Fayne the new Greene-Fayne?

    I would’ve been happy with 6×6. Good day.

    Flames have to sign Frolik to take away some of the excitement. Treliving is getting it done in Calgary. Damn

  103. Woodguy says:

    Patty Sandpaper Baby ‏@blackdogpat 2m2 minutes ago
    As to @ThomasDrance ‘s point by adding Sekera you’re adding Fayne too imo. Fayne is top four guy with a real partner.

    Great point by Pat and Thomas.

    We haven’t seen the best of Fayne.

    Not even close.

  104. Numenius says:

    Sekera news is excellent.

    Letestu also looks like a nice add.

    Why did he only play 54 games last year, though? Was he injured?

  105. jm363561 says:

    Is anyone keeping track of the cap? Can we afford anyone else?

  106. "Steve Smith" says:

    striatic: If Sekera becomes terrible, the Oilers will be terrible.

    Well, conceivably, five years down the road the Oilers could have other good defencemen. It’s unfathomable, I know.

    Well, that’s the future.

    Woodguy’s avatar has seen it: it is, at best, manslaughter.

  107. Woodguy says:

    Магия 10: Nice if you had accepted.Optional protocol is for loser to donate to this blog.

    Yes, most bets on this site end up being spent by LT at Fife n’ Dekel.

  108. John Chambers says:

    striatic: If Sekera becomes terrible, the Oilers will be terrible.

    Contract takes him to 35 .. eep.

    Well, that’s the future.

    Man, this is like when people got all stinky on draft night because they didn’t like the Reinhart trade.

    Can’t we at least appreciate that for now we lander the best Dman (who is under 30) on the UFA market, addressing our position of greatest need. Like, would you rather we didn’t sign him?

  109. striatic says:

    Woodguy: CAL is smart and is scares me.

    Repeat after me ..

    We have the next Sidney Crosby
    We have the next Sidney Crosby
    We have the next Sidney Crosby

    Gord that better be true.

  110. Braden88 says:

    Let the battle of Alberta reign supreme once again!!!

  111. oliveoilers says:

    v4ance: He totally did and he challenged me to a “woodguy” bet?I have no idea what that is.

    I did worry that LA might circle back to Sekera but knowing that Kopitar is UFA next year, I could reasonbly forecast that they wouldn’t waste the precious cap $$$ on Sekera versus saving them to re-sign Kopitar next season.

    My take is this: The guys in my E+I shop were talking about the Richards scenario, and I put it to them that

    1) LA and Richards went sour on each other.

    2) LA tried like buggery to trade MR.

    3) LA put him on waivers and he wasn’t picked up.

    4) LA went shopping on draft day and spent what they didn’t have.

    5)LA start running detrimental stories about MR and actually have a ‘drama’ on the draft floor.

    6) After trying to trade him, waive him, they terminate the contract in order to pay for their shiny new players then and on July 1st.

    If I’m a FA or a player’s agent and I look at this and I say “so, you want me to sign for big dollars and long term, and if it sours, you will try your damndest to weasel out of the contract?” Especially as they have a coke head and a wife beater currently still employed….

  112. Woodguy says:

    striatic: I think this is irrelevant for the Oilers.

    If the Oilers are looking to move Sekera, it means they remain terrible. If they remain terrible, he’ll want out, and to pretty much anywhere.

    Agreed.

    SOP for long term UFA’s.

    They just want control so they don’t end up in places like…….ummmm…..Edmonton?

    Ha!

  113. striatic says:

    John Chambers: Man, this is like when people got all stinky on draft night because they didn’t like the Reinhart trade.

    Now now, I’m hardly announcing the death of the franchise and calling for Chiarelli’s head ..

  114. Woodguy says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Woodguy’s avatar has seen it: it is, at best, manslaughter.

    THE BEST MANSLAUGHTER EVER TOO!!!

  115. Numenius says:

    “Steve Smith”: Well, conceivably, five years down the road the Oilers could have other good defencemen. It’s unfathomable, I know.

    This is my one concern. Sekera with an NMC means you may not be able to sign one of your up and coming young defencemen.

  116. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    Woodguy:
    Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC1m1 minute ago
    Sekera done to EDM. six years, $5.5M AAV and a no-move clause.

    Wow.

    Expensive, long, and a NMC. Pick two, not all three FFS.

    I’m starting to think Chiarelli is the kind of manager who comes to a factory/business, overworks the staff, cuts all maintenance, looks great for 3-5 years and then leaves as it all burns down.

  117. "Steve Smith" says:

    Woodguy:
    “Steve Smith”,

    Woodguy’s avatar has seen it: it is, at best, manslaughter.

    THE BEST MANSLAUGHTER EVER TOO!!!

    Truly, the laughter of man.

  118. oliveoilers says:

    striatic: I think this is irrelevant for the Oilers.

    If the Oilers are looking to move Sekera, it means they remain terrible. If they remain terrible, he’ll want out, and to pretty much anywhere.

    Or it means someone has forced him down the batting order…..Nurse or Klef?

  119. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Kessel to the Pens!

  120. Gordies Elbow says:

    Hall – RNH – Eberle
    Pouliot – McDavid – Purcell
    Korporoski – Lander – Yakupov
    Hendricks –
    Letestu – Pakarainen
    Gazdic Klinkhammer

    Sekera – Fayne
    Klefbom – Schultz
    ReinhartGryba
    Ference

    Talbot
    Scrivens

    Bold.

  121. Woodguy says:

    $1.8 X 3 Years for Letestu as per Stauffer on the radio.

    Also,

    Kessel to PIT???

  122. Braden88 says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    Hall – RNH – Eberle
    Pouliot – McDavid – Purcell
    Korporoski – Lander – Yakupov
    Hendricks –
    Letestu – Pakarainen
    GazdicKlinkhammer

    Sekera – Fayne
    Klefbom – Schultz
    ReinhartGryba
    Ference

    Talbot
    Scrivens

    Bold.

    wheres Nikitin?

  123. theres oil in virginia says:

    Woodguy: There is no spoon

    Nice.

    “Do not try to correct DSF, that’s impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth…there is no DSF”.

    – Pouzar

  124. Woodguy says:

    V.XIV.VI.I: Wow.

    Expensive, long, and a NMC.Pick two, not all three FFS.

    I’m starting to think Chiarelli is the kind of manager who comes to a factory/business, overworks the staff, cuts all maintenance, looks great for 3-5 years and then leaves as it all burns down.

    Go away.

  125. "Steve Smith" says:

    UFA Riley Nash signs with…Carolina.

    Huh.

  126. Braden88 says:

    Letestu. 3 years 1.8m cap hit.

    not bad

  127. Woodguy says:

    striatic: Repeat after me ..

    We have the next Sidney Crosby
    We have the next Sidney Crosby
    We have the next Sidney Crosby

    Gord that better be true.

    Absolutely.

    I prefer Feaster in CAL though.

    I suppose they don’t like what Chiarelli is doing up here.

  128. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    John Chambers: Can’t we at least appreciate that for now we lander the best Dman (who is under 30) on the UFA market, addressing our position of greatest need. Like, would you rather we didn’t sign him?

    If it was just the money and term, I could swallow it. If it was less money and a NMC and this term, I could deal with that. If it was a NMC and a lot of money but a shorter term, I could take that too. Chiarelli gave too much for a guy who has never played a full season, and only come close twice in his career.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=78470

    The cap matters. It matters a lot. Flexibility matters.

  129. Connorrhea says:

    jm363561:
    Is anyone keeping track of the cap? Can we afford anyone else?

    http://war-on-ice.com/cap/EDM.html

    Updated with today’s transactions.

  130. theres oil in virginia says:

    V.XIV.VI.I: Wow.

    Expensive, long, and a NMC.Pick two, not all three FFS.

    I’m starting to think Chiarelli is the kind of manager who comes to a factory/business, overworks the staff, cuts all maintenance, looks great for 3-5 years and then leaves as it all burns down.

    Don’t know the details of the NMC, but the deal is not expensive, and not really that long either. Have you ever watched UFA day before?

  131. Ducey says:

    What the Fuck is wrong with Oilers fans?

    They grab probably the best UFA D option for market rate and all people do is find reason to complain.

  132. Woodguy says:

    John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet 2m2 minutes ago
    Kessell to Pitt for Kapanen, Harington and a Pick.

    Don’t know if any salary is retained.

  133. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Neuvirth for cheap, is Scrivens a better option?

  134. Gordies Elbow says:

    Braden88: wheres Nikitin?

    If he has a poor camp, walking the streets of Bakersfield.

    Still think that PC will move him or Ference, to a team looking for experienced defensive depth.

  135. Lewis Grant says:

    Can’t we at least appreciate that for now we lander the best Dman (who is under 30) on the UFA market, addressing our position of greatest need.

    I appreciate it.

    We’ve now replaced Petry.

    Which just gets our D back to where we were in February…

    We need one more (Burns/Vlasic/Shattenkirk would be fantastic). But it’s probably best to wait until the trade deadline when Yak has (best case scenario) scored 25 goals and Sharks realize they’re in rebuild mode.

    And we need Nurse and Reinhart to turn the corner fast. THAT would be a championship D.

  136. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    theres oil in virginia: Don’t know the details of the NMC, but the deal is not expensive, and not really that long either.Have you ever watched UFA day before?

    Of course. I’m not comparing his deal to Hamilton’s for a reason.

    I understand overpayment is part of the process, but this is too much for a guy who can’t stay healthy.

  137. geowal says:

    New thread up.

  138. oliveoilers says:

    V.XIV.VI.I: Wow.

    Expensive, long, and a NMC.Pick two, not all three FFS.

    I’m starting to think Chiarelli is the kind of manager who comes to a factory/business, overworks the staff, cuts all maintenance, looks great for 3-5 years and then leaves as it all burns down.

    I’m struggling to understand this; the Reinhart deal, I could understand the opposition, MM trade too, but I suspect it was more for MMs sake than ours.

    But this? I can’t grasp your point of view. We paid below market for a top two d, yes term is long, but the guy wants security and NMC? Well, they seem pretty standard these days.

    “It’s a deal, it’s a steal, it’s sale of the fucking century. In fact, fuck ya, Nick, I think I’ll keep it.” The Fat Man, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

  139. striatic says:

    oliveoilers: Or it means someone has forced him down the batting order…..Nurse or Klef?

    Either way I doubt he stops a trade out of Edmonton, ever. Maybe if he’s going to a bottom 5 team or something.

    Do worry that a contract taking him to 35 is probably his last contract. He better be in it for the love of the game and not earning his next contract because there is unlikely to be one.

  140. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy: I suppose they don’t like what Chiarelli is doing up here.

    From what I’ve read thus far, they are pretty comfortable with what is happening here right now.

    I think that comes from hearing about how good Edmonton was going to be every summer and then breathing a sigh of relief/laughter once the season begins.

    I think Hamilton was an excellent distraction from McDavid for them. We’ll see once the season begins, though.

  141. Gordies Elbow says:

    Ducey:
    What the Fuck is wrong with Oilers fans?

    They grab probably the best UFA D option for market rate and all people do is find reason to complain.

    Lottery win: Check.
    Upgraded POHO\GM: Check.
    Upgraded entire coaching staff: Check
    Best available prospect in the last 30 years? Check.
    Best goalie available: Check.
    Best UFA defenseman: Check.

    Am I missing anything?

  142. v4ance says:

    Connorrhea: http://war-on-ice.com/cap/EDM.html

    Updated with today’s transactions.

    It doesn’t have McDavid’s max ELC @ ~$3.75M and Jultz’s $3.65 QO, so we’re actually at around $66million of the $71.4M cap

  143. John Chambers says:

    V.XIV.VI.I: If it was just the money and term, I could swallow it.If it was less money and a NMC and this term, I could deal with that.If it was a NMC and a lot of money but a shorter term, I could take that too.Chiarelli gave too much for a guy who has never played a full season, and only come close twice in his career.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=78470

    The cap matters.It matters a lot.Flexibility matters.

    Ob-v, but it’s not as if we signed Andrew MacDonald and Vincent LeCavalier.

    We signed an honest to goodness top-3 defenseman who is 29 years old. He could very well be worth $5.5M in the final year of the contract. It’s basically like getting Jeff Petry back.

  144. skidplate says:

    Klima’s_Bucket,

    And I traded him for Rask at the trade deadline, in my keeper league. d’oh

  145. Braden88 says:

    Gordies Elbow: Lottery win: Check.
    Upgraded POHO\GM: Check.
    Upgraded entire coaching staff: Check
    Best available prospect in the last 30 years? Check.
    Best goalie available: Check.
    Best UFA defenseman: Check.

    Am I missing anything?

    only thing left is to repeat this every single day until the season starts.

    we need to break the negativity of this fan base

  146. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    oliveoilers: I’m struggling to understand this; the Reinhart deal, I could understand the opposition, MM trade too, but I suspect it was more for MMs sake than ours.

    But this?I can’t grasp your point of view.We paid below market for a top two d, yes term is long, but the guy wants security and NMC?Well, they seem pretty standard these days.

    “It’s a deal, it’s a steal, it’s sale of the fucking century.In fact, fuck ya, Nick, I think I’ll keep it.” The Fat Man, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

    Since when is he a top two D? He’s a top four, which is a polite way of saying “3-4 defenceman who bad teams press into a top pairing role”. Then you consider his injury history and ask yourself if on top of 6 years and $5.5 million, he needs a NMC.

  147. thejonrmcleod says:

    Pouzar:
    I’m going to be disappointed today aren’t I????

    Nope.

  148. v4ance says:

    Lewis Grant:
    Can’t we at least appreciate that for now we lander the best Dman (who is under 30) on the UFA market, addressing our position of greatest need.

    I appreciate it.

    We’ve now replaced Petry.

    Which just gets our D back to where we were in February…

    We need one more (Burns/Vlasic/Shattenkirk would be fantastic).But it’s probably best to wait until the trade deadline when Yak has (best case scenario) scored 25 goals and Sharks realize they’re in rebuild mode.

    And we need Nurse and Reinhart to turn the corner fast.THAT would be a championship D

    Totally agree with you. This is the money that should have gone to Petry but that ship has sailed.

    Sekera was the best available option and he’ll cover the period that we need a competent D during McDavid’s ELC. Big hole at the top of the defence is filled. Now hope our prospects grow into filling other top 4 slots and we’re good.

  149. rickithebear says:

    John Chambers:
    We have a top-4 defenseman! We have a top-4 defenseman!

    Please sir may we have another?

    When Fayne is paired with a 1st comp 52.00 CA/60 D the pair ends up in the 50.00 to 49.00 range

  150. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    John Chambers: Ob-v, but it’s not as if we signed Andrew MacDonald and Vincent LeCavalier.

    We signed an honest to goodness top-3 defenseman who is 29 years old. He could very well be worth $5.5M in the final year of the contract. It’s basically like getting Jeff Petry back.

    I think that’s a fantastic comparison. Petry’s two years younger, bigger, and healthier, but doesn’t have the offense of Sekera. Petry got identical money, but doesn’t have a NMC.

  151. theres oil in virginia says:

    V.XIV.VI.I: Of course.I’m not comparing his deal to Hamilton’s for a reason.

    I understand overpayment is part of the process, but this is too much for a guy who can’t stay healthy.

    A valid point, but he’s played 83% of his games since 2008 (if my calculation is right). Not sure why he missed games in 2007, so I removed it from the tally. Contrast that with “the Wiz” who some folks here were pining for, who has played about 50% of his games over the years. I think we can live with 83%.

  152. v4ance says:

    V.XIV.VI.I: Since when is he a top two D?He’s a top four, which is a polite way of saying “3-4 defenceman who bad teams press into a top pairing role”.Then you consider his injury history and ask yourself if on top of 6 years and $5.5 million, he needs a NMC.

    Other than a trade, what was any other realistic option?

    We can complain all we want about this deal but with a bunch of sharks circling masquerading as NHL GMs, there probably wasn’t any way to fill the roster hole that we badly needed filled.

    This is the cost of doing business during UFA period but we have to pay it.

    Otherwise, would you be happy going back into next season with the exact same top 5 D that we ran last year?

  153. Picturesque says:

    V.XIV.VI.I,

    Incorrect, Petry got a NMC for the first 3 years, then next 3 years he can submit a trade list of 15 teams.

  154. oliveoilers says:

    striatic: Either way I doubt he stops a trade out of Edmonton, ever. Maybe if he’s going to a bottom 5 team or something.

    Do worry that a contract taking him to 35 is probably his last contract. He better be in it for the love of the game and not earning his next contract because there is unlikely to be one.

    But this is a good thing. Use him, then lose him.

  155. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    theres oil in virginia: A valid point, but he’s played 83% of his games since 2008 (if my calculation is right).Not sure why he missed games in 2007, so I removed it from the tally.Contrast that with “the Wiz” who some folks here were pining for, who has played about 50% of his games over the years.I think we can live with 83%.

    He played 83% of his games from the age of 22-29, if you exclude his worst season. What does that bode for him once he’s over 30? That’s why I hate that NMC.

  156. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    Picturesque:
    V.XIV.VI.I,

    Incorrect, Petry got a NMC for the first 3 years, then next 3 years he can submit a trade list of 15 teams.

    I stand corrected.

    Given his extra offensive firepower, which hopefully offsets his injury issues, this is a fair deal.

  157. theres oil in virginia says:

    theres oil in virginia,

    To wit:

    Shattenkirk has played 90% of his games since 2010.
    Johnny Boychuk has played 85% of his games since 2009.

    I’m sure there are more examples.

    It’s tough to stay healthy.

  158. theres oil in virginia says:

    V.XIV.VI.I: He played 83% of his games from the age of 22-29, if you exclude his worst season.What does that bode for him once he’s over 30?That’s why I hate that NMC.

    What are you talking about? I just told you I counted everything (unless I made a mistake) since 2008? And I told you why I excluded 2007. What season are you talking about? I gave you a well-written snippet of information, and you come back with this? My time is more valuable than this.

  159. Pouzar says:

    thejonrmcleod: Nope.

    BOOYAH!

    JUST GOT BACK!

    BOOYAH

    WOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!

  160. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    Woodguy: Go away.

    I will absolutely second this! Seriously? Complaining about landing the UFA D the team needs because only 2 of $, term or NMC “should have” been given?? First world problems…

    We have a MUCH better lineup than any in the past 9 years! At least try to consider that, even if just a little teeny tiny bit.

  161. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    Gordies Elbow: Lottery win: Check.
    Upgraded POHO\GM: Check.
    Upgraded entire coaching staff: Check
    Best available prospect in the last 30 years? Check.
    Best goalie available: Check.
    Best UFA defenseman: Check.

    Am I missing anything?

    Just that since it’s the Oilers with all this not Vancouver, Calgary or LA, you can “book it” that it means nothing…

    Now had Sekara stayed in LA he would have been the best signing in hockey history but know he’s injury prone, soft, slow, weak and has a wonky shot. And don’t get me started on the issues like the term is too long, then money is too high and the no movement will completely cripple the Oilers forever.

    And if Frolik is in Calgary then this will be the best thing ever and he is going to break Gretzkys season scoring record by Christmas.

  162. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    theres oil in virginia: What are you talking about?I just told you I counted everything (unless I made a mistake) since 2008?And I told you why I excluded 2007.What season are you talking about?I gave you a well-written snippet of information, and you come back with this?My time is more valuable than this.

    I’m sorry, I must have been unclear.

    I repeated your point that he played 83% of his games to acknowledge it, that’s all. I also stated my concern that if he missed that much in his 20s (and this is discounting his worst season), I worry about how healthy he’ll stay in his 30s, which makes me hate the NMC. That’s all.

  163. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    Walter Gretzkys Neighbour: I will absolutely second this! Seriously? Complaining about landing the UFA D the team needs because only 2 of $, term or NMC “should have” been given?? First world problems…

    We have a MUCH better lineup than any in the past 9 years! At least try to consider that, even if just a little teeny tiny bit.

    Like I said, I stand corrected. I feel like we could have signed him without a NMC, but I’m not as upset about it as I was before. Petry got his NMC, too, and Sekera puts up more points.

  164. speeds says:

    I can understand why one might prefer 4 years to 6 for Sekera, but for a comparison, in Sekera’s last year he’ll be as old as Ference was in his first season with the Oilers.

  165. speeds says:

    Also, it’s interesting that Sekera and his agent chose a 6 year deal, I was wondering if they might prefer a 5 year deal so he’d be under 35 for his next contract?

  166. theres oil in virginia says:

    V.XIV.VI.I: I’m sorry, I must have been unclear.

    I repeated your point that he played 83% of his games to acknowledge it, that’s all.I also stated my concern that if he missed that much in his 20s (and this is discounting his worst season), I worry about how healthy he’ll stay in his 30s, which makes me hate the NMC.That’s all.

    Yes, it was unclear. I was also dealing with work + seven-year-old + hockey madness, so frustration was mounting. My apologies.

    The point though, is that injuries are always a concern, but 83% ain’t bad. I’m not sure if injury is why he missed games in that early season, but anyway it was a long time ago and he’s played more games/season as a % since then. See the comparables above and you’ll see that it’s not uncommon to miss games at that rate. I don’t care for NMC either, but it often comes with the UFA status, and likely reduced the salary.

  167. V.XIV.VI.I says:

    theres oil in virginia,

    Yeah, I admitted in a separate post that I’ve changed my mind (in no small part thanks to you). It’s a fair deal.

    I have a deep hatred of NMCs and I believe the first GM to enact a strict no-NMC policy and convince his free agents and players that it’s how to build a winner is going to have a winning proposition. In fact I think Lombardi hasn’t given out too many.

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