I’M JUST WILD ABOUT LEON

We’re into the season where we all go 10 rounds arguing whether Darnell Nurse or Griffin Reinhart will start in the AHL, which tells me two things. First, we’re in a better spot than the period where we were arguing Marc Pouliot and Rob Schremp. Second, we need something else to talk about. Things SHOULD be happening (I mean real news, not John Scott signing in the desert, they should change his name to Bon Scott, maybe someone will go to the games) and hell maybe they will. In the meantime, a few things I’ve been thinking about today.

LEON’S NEXT NHL GAME

When we’re talking about Leon as an opening night option—and I get it, he’s a fun player to watch—there are specific and critical things to keep in mind. Speeds is the guy who uncovered this, so over to him:

  • SpeedsTeams are only allowed to exceed the cap via performance bonuses by a maximum of 7.5% of the Upper Limit, which for the 2015/16 salary cap of 71.4M works out to a 5.355M maximum. The combined bonuses for Nurse (0.85M), Reinhart (2.35M), Draisaitl (2.475M), Klefbom (0.35M), and McDavid, not signed yet, but assuming a max deal (2.85M) total 8.875M.  So what does that mean?  In a nutshell, should the Oilers start the year with all five of those players on the roster, the team will have an effective salary cap of 67.88M in order to preserve the required room for bonuses. Source

It’s a big deal but easily managed by keeping Leon ($2.475M) and Reinhart ($2.35M) on the farm until the bonus danger passes. I don’t think Todd McLellan necessarily goes in with this in mind but between Peter Chiarelli and McLellan the decisions will be made based on performance in training camp, roster composition and of course cap worries. One other thing from Speeds in regard to Draisaitl:

  • There is a consideration for Draisaitl that does not exist for Reinhart.  If Edmonton leaves either Reinhart or Draisaitl in the AHL all year, an ELC year would be burned.  However, with Draisaitl, a year in the AHL vs. a year in the NHL results in him being a UFA in 2023 instead of 2022; Reinhart’s UFA status is not impacted by whether or not he plays in the NHL.  When you combine that with Draisaitl having an effective cap hit of 3.4M (again, assuming the bonus overage is already maxed out), is it that hard to argue that Edmonton would be better off to sign a UFA W for 2.5M, save some cap space, save a year towards UFA status for Draisaitl, and let him play a full year as the #1C in the AHL?

I’m just wild about Leon but this is a major consideration. I know we’ve been down this road before but it merits further discussion.

Impressive and classy. Sheldon Souray’s time in Edmonton was miserable and his reward was Hershey and the minor leagues. The hockey Gods turned things around though, and Souray re-emerged as an NHL player while the Oilers remained minor league all the way. The days gone down have a lot of skeletons but that period was truly ridiculous.

OILERS AND THEIR DRAFT TRENDS SINCE 2008

  1. WHL: 16 players (26 %) including Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Draisaitl and Ethan Bear
  2. USA: 10 players (16 %) including Pitlick, Simpson, Nagelvoort plus Caleb Jones and John Marino
  3. OHL: 8 players (13 %) including McDavid, Hall, Yakupov and Nurse
  4. Sweden: 6 players (10 %) including Paajarvi, Lander, Klefbom and Lagesson
  5. QMJHL: 5 players (8 %) including Marco Roy and Keven Bouchard
  6. BCJHL: 5 players (8 %) including Bigos, Khaira and Coughlin
  7. Finland: 4 players (7 %) including Hartikainen and Rajala
  8. Russia: 3 players (5 %) Bogdan Yakimov, Anton Slepyshev and now Ziyat Paigin
  9. Slovakia: 2 players (3 %) Martin Marincin and Martin Gernat
  10. Belarus: 1 player (2 %) Kristians Pelss
  11. Czech Republic: 1 player (2 %) Miroslav Svoboda is the first Czech league player since Josef Hrabal (“the pencil!”) in 2003

A few notes:

  • The NHL as a whole (including Edmonton) drafts out of the WHL at about 17% (this year’s numbers aren’t included). The Oilers love the dub in a big way, using a quarter of their total picks on players from the league.
  • The NHL drafts out of USA leagues and colleges at 24%, meaning Edmonton is underusing this area compared to the rest of the NHL. It would be interesting to see if Canadian teams are more or less likely to draft from America.
  • The NHL uses the OHL at 20% and it’s the best junior league in the world. You’d really have to work to convince me that it’s wise to under draft out of the Ontario league. Seriously.
  • The NHL uses Russia at about 3% but that is increasing. Good to see Edmonton is ahead of the curve here.

OILERS SCOUTS 2014-15

  • Bob Green: Director of Player Personnel
  • Stu MacGregor: Head Amateur Scout
  • Bill Dandy: QMJHL
  • Brad Davis: OHL, tier 2 leagues in Q and O
  • Kent Hawley: OHL, QMJHL, tier 2 leagues in Q and O
  • Bob Brown: WHL (and BCJHL based on media comments)
  • Jim Crosson: WHL
  • Scott Harlow: NCAA and American junior leagues (east coast)
  • Frank Musil: Europe
  • Pelle Eklund: Europe
  • Robert Nordmark: Europe
  • Joseph Cucci: Year three, don’t know his area but it might be New England
  • Dave Heitz: Year three, goalie scout
  • Matti Virmanen: Appears to be in pro scouting now
  • Sylvain Rodrigue: Year two, goalies.

Expect some additions to the OHL group and I really hope they do something about the goalie scouting. It’s impossible to know what a good goalie scout looks like but the track record doesn’t scream ‘Svoboda is the new Henrik Lundqvist’ and that’s for sure.

2015 DRAFT AND THE AREA SCOUTS

  • Connor McDavid (Green and all the fired guys)
  • Caleb Jones (Green, Harlow, Cucci)
  • Ethan Bear (Green, Brown, Crosson)
  • John Marino (Green, Harlow, Cucci)
  • Miroslav Svoboda (Green, Musil, Eklund, Nordmark)
  • Ziyat Paigin (Green, Musil, Eklund, Nordmark)

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119 Responses to "I’M JUST WILD ABOUT LEON"

  1. supernova says:

    What would be classified as an NHL year in the CBA ?

    Does Drai have to play 25 NHL games?

    —–

    It will be interesting to study the scouts after this year.

    It seemed that Brown, Musil/elklundand cross on had always had the ear of Stu and the GM in charge.

    It seems there is a large opening for Mike Chiarelli

  2. Woodguy says:

    In regards to Sheldon Souray.

    Let’s not forget that every EDM MSM had Tambellini/Lowe’s back and heaped dirt on him on his way down.

    Spector didn’t because he published the Souray thing that started all of this.

    The only good reporting I’ve ever seen him do.

    You don’t need a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

  3. oilinthepeg says:

    Going to be in seat 14 (appropriately in my Eberle jersey!) in section 111 at young stars! Very excited! Anyone going to be my neighbour!? Woohoo!

  4. leadfarmer says:

    Keeping players down in the farm because you don’t want to pay them their bonuses is a good way to sour them on the organization and make them want to leave ASAP. If those players earned a spot, so be it.

  5. Магия 10 says:

    It’s a big deal but easily managed by keeping “Leon ($2.475M) and Reinhart ($2.35M) on the farm until the bonus danger passes”

    Ding. Ding. Round 11. You missed an option.;)

    He started it!!!

    Are we there yet?

  6. Lynas1 says:

    Pelss was Latvian, not Belarussian wasn’t he?

  7. Connor'sreal says:

    Lynas1,

  8. The Hermit says:

    Regarding Souray there was obviously such a fracture between the previous management and himself, he was never going to play for the Oilers again.

    The club tried to trade him. They put him on waivers and he went unclaimed, so what were the Oilers supposed to do?

  9. oliveoilers says:

    And what have we learned about not icing your best team and making decisions based on things other than winning?

    Still, hasn’t happened yet.

  10. jake70 says:

    The Hermit:
    Regarding Souray there was obviously such a fracture between the previous management and himself, he was never going to play for the Oilers again.

    The club tried to trade him. They put him on waivers and he went unclaimed, so what were the Oilers supposed to do?

    I remember reports of scouts seeing him in Hershey not overly impressed with him. He was lucky he wasnt out of hockey in summer 2011.

  11. Lowetide says:

    Lynas1:
    Pelss was Latvian, not Belarussian wasn’t he?

    Drafted out of that league.

  12. speeds says:

    leadfarmer:
    Keeping players down in the farm because you don’t want to pay them their bonuses is a good way to sour them on the organization and make them want to leave ASAP.If those players earned a spot, so be it.

    It doesn’t have anything to do with not wanting to pay them their bonuses – it’s about the cap space, and would only be an issue depending on other moves/occurrences.

  13. speeds says:

    Lowetide, from the article:

    It’s a big deal but easily managed by keeping Leon ($2.475M) and Reinhart ($2.35M) on the farm until the bonus danger passes

    It’s not entirely clear, when, if at all, certain bonuses are deemed unattainable.

    The issue isn’t necessarily the players actually hitting the bonuses, but having to have the cap room in case they do, even if it’s a remote possibility that they hit the bonuses.

  14. jonrmcleod says:

    Patrick Sharp to the Stars. In other news, DSF should be arriving soon.

  15. RPG says:

    @DallasStars: ICYMI on Periscope: #Stars acquire Patrick Sharp and Steven Johns from @NHLBlackhawks in exchange for Ryan Garbutt and Trevor Daley

  16. square_wheels says:

    jonrmcleod,

    Dallas turning into the Oilers of last year with that Defence though !

  17. Ryan says:

    Yeah, Bob Brown is tagged with all of these Oilers BCJHL draft selections…

  18. jonrmcleod says:

    square_wheels,

    I seem to recall DSF several times mentioning a long list of up and coming Dallas defensemen. 🙂

  19. Ryan says:

    jonrmcleod:
    Patrick Sharp to the Stars. In other news, DSF should be arriving soon.

    He’s a Stars fanboy, but I thought he called Sharp to Florida.

  20. jonrmcleod says:

    Ryan,

    Yeah, Stan Bowman was going to do his ol’ pal (and genius GM) Dale Tallon a favour…right after Dean Lombardi signed second-paring defenseman Sekera.

  21. square_wheels says:

    jonrmcleod,

    I refuse to acknowledge “up and coming ” as a valid way to solidify an NHL defence…..

    But the waters have been chummed, entertaining Friday night shall insue.

  22. G Money says:

    Can’t figure out the cap effect though. The cap looks neutral (though it does mean one additional player signed for the Hawks).

  23. Connor'sreal says:

    G Money: Can’t figure out the cap effect though.

    With Daley added, this allows the Hawks to trade Seabisque to the Oilers for picks and prospect(s)!

  24. Lowetide says:

    G Money:
    Can’t figure out the cap effect though.The cap looks neutral (though it does mean one additional player signed for the Hawks).

    Have read Dallas is covering half of the forward’s contract, checking

  25. square_wheels says:

    Connor’sreal,

    Bowman walks away with Yak ++ and we have a new polarizing, soon to be over paid and declining 3/4 defencemen.

    I’ve been camping in Peter Lougheed with no cell coverage all week, might decide to go back if we’re trading for Seabrook now.

  26. Магия 10 says:

    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 59s59 seconds ago
    Greetings from the cottage: Stars retained 50 percent of Garbutt cap hit/salary so Hawks get him at 900k. Huge key to the Sharp trade..

    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 2m2 minutes ago
    Stars take on Sharp full-on at $5.9 m cap hit. Ditto Hawks with Daley at $3.3 m. But obviously some cap relief for Chicago tonight

  27. Doug McLachlan says:

    Hawks now $900K in the black but still need to move out $ if they intend to get Kruger.

    Still think they want to bring Oduya back too.

    Very interesting for Dallas. With $7M in space do we now see Franson go to Big D?

  28. Lowetide says:

    Weird trade for Dallas imo.

  29. Rondo says:

    Good trade for Chicago they get a second pairing D man and they save some cap space. Sharp is getting old he maybe done within 2 yrs. At least with a D-man you get more years generally speaking.

  30. Ryan says:

    Lowetide:
    Weird trade for Dallas imo.

    They’re over the moon at defending big d.

  31. wheatnoil says:

    Lowetide:
    Weird trade for Dallas imo.

    Why so? Daley is their worst possession D-man. They have cap room. If they sign Franson they’ve upgraded.

    Don’t understand their goalie decisions at all but I think this trade is a steal for Dallas.

    Edit: Also don’t know much about Stephen Johns but there’s quite a few people who seem to think he’s a real solid prospect. Anyone here know anything about him?

  32. Ryan says:

    wheatnoil: Why so? Daley is their worst possession D-man. They have cap room. If they sign Franson they’ve upgraded.

    Don’t understand their goalie decisions at all but I think this is a steal for Dallas.

    Is it scary that Dallas hockey fans also knew that Daley was a corsi drag?

  33. Lowetide says:

    wheatnoil: Why so? Daley is their worst possession D-man. They have cap room. If they sign Franson they’ve upgraded.

    Don’t understand their goalie decisions at all but I think this trade is a steal for Dallas.

    The Stars up front look good to me and the goaltending has been shored up (although expensively). Defense is the area they have to be looking and they get a rookie D? As you say, Franson in is a net plus but they could have done that without this trade.

  34. GCW_69 says:

    Bowman has to be looking for a trade partner for Bickell. Murray is nuts. They should call buffalo and offer Bickell and some picks for a used jock strap.

    Sweeney is also nuts, but not that nuts. Or at least he doesn’t have the cap space to be that nuts, like Murray does.

  35. AsiaOil says:

    Some nice words about EDM by Souray – showed a lot of class and he always had integrity – unlike the previous set of vipers who ran the team and trash talked every player after they were traded or let go. Man am I glad those days are over

  36. book¡je says:

    The Hermit:
    Regarding Souray there was obviously such a fracture between the previous management and himself, he was never going to play for the Oilers again.

    The club tried to trade him. They put him on waivers and he went unclaimed, so what were the Oilers supposed to do?

    In retrospect, I would say “avoid the fracture” by not being pricks who are terrible at managing a hockey team?

  37. book¡je says:

    AsiaOil:
    Some nice words about EDM by Souray – showed a lot of class and he always had integrity – unlike the previous set of vipers who ran the team and trash talked every player after they were traded or let go. Man am I glad those days are over

    Yes, thank goodness MacT and Lowe are out of the organization!

  38. GCW_69 says:

    book¡je: Yes, thank goodness MacT and Lowe are out of the organization!

    See, need that “rec” function again!!!!!

  39. Genjutsu says:

    I’ve long been a supporter of Stu’s but looking at the splits it’s almost unforgivable how little they used the OHL.

    The 2010 “watershed” draft has turned into one home run in Hall, a possible bottom 6 winger, a maybe 6/7 D man and a year of Gryba.

    A bunch of his bets got ruined by injuries, regardless, you can’t survive with that outcome.

    You just can’t.

  40. Rip Fan Winkle says:

    Genjutsu:
    I’ve long been a supporter of Stu’s but looking at the splits it’s almost unforgivable how little they used the OHL.

    The 2010 “watershed” draft has turned into one home run in Hall,a possible bottom 6 winger, a maybe 6/7 D man and a year of Gryba.

    A bunch of his bets got ruined by injuries, regardless, you can’t survive with that outcome.

    You just can’t.

    You can’t first blame scouts for poor drafting.The GM calls the shots. There was a big change when MacT took over as GM. If it was scouting nothing would have changed.

  41. AsiaOil says:

    book¡je: Yes, thank goodness MacT and Lowe are out of the organization!

    Soon enough – MacT will be gone next summer just like ToR and Van took a while to completely clean house – and Lowe has his nice comfy pillow beside Katz’s desk to sleep in. There are marginalized as none of the guys brought in as mgmt, coaches or UFA’s would touch EDM if they still had any influence. Funny how UFA suddenly want to play in EDM – and no it’s not CMD – it was always the BOTB that kept quality away from EDM.

  42. dangilitis says:

    I have it on good authority (that I am not able to disclose for legal reasons) that nikitin will not be bought out. This as communicated from chiarelli to someone trustworthy whom I know. I also have it on good authority that nikitin is a slob.

  43. Richard S.S. says:

    From this point on. decisions made by this Team must be about McDavid and Cap Space. Nothing else is important enough: Are you good enough to be on this Team? Do you fit under the Cap? That’s what matters now.

    McDavid’s closest comparibles are Crosby and Gretsky. No one else comes close enough to be more than wishful thinking. Guessing how many points he’ll score, doesn’t consider all the factors. Who he plays with really matters. How well he’s protected matters. Start with him being at least a point a game player, anything less undervalues him.

    Anything else that happens this offseason must wait upon the Justin Schultz Arbitration hearing decision. From that point on, Chiarelli has options, not before. Until we know what he’s up against, future speculation is unclear. Fun, but unclear.

  44. Mr DeBakey says:

    AsiaOil: Man am I glad those days are over

    You “HOPE” those days are over!

    wheatnoil: Also don’t know much about Stephen Johns but there’s quite a few people who seem to think he’s a real solid prospect.

    Ni moi, but last week I was looking at all the D-Men drafted in the 2nd Round after Marincin. Johns appears to be tracking very well.

  45. leadfarmer says:

    dangilitis,

    I don’t see why you buy him out. He’s gone in a year. If he plays well you can retain half of his contract and trade him for a 3rd at the trade deadline, if he doesn’t then you bury him.

  46. Rip Fan Winkle says:

    Waiting to be competitive is a bad idea unless it’s part of a specific strategy.

    Sure, perhaps every hole can’t be filled in a few months. If a good trade or signing comes up that helps the here and doesn’t cost the there, you do it.

    Maybe the roster is static now because the markets aren’t willing. I feel Pete won’t ever stop trying, thankfully. There is a lot of change that could help.

  47. Ducey says:

    Wierd trade for Chi too. They give up the best player and the best prospect.

    They get rid of Sharp but don’t clear much space. Maybe they figure the can trade Garbutt and Daley. Maybe they don’t need to bring in Oduya anymore.

    Hopefully this ends the Seabrook rumours.

  48. Halfwise says:

    Richard S.S.:

    McDavid’s closest comparibles are Crosby and Gretsky.


    Anything else that happens this offseason must wait upon the Justin Schultz Arbitration hearing decision.

    I think you spelled Corsby wrong. Maybe check the names again. 😉

    As for the Schultz arbitration hearing, I doubt there will be one. The purpose of filing for arbitration had nothing to do with Schultz; it was just a technicality. (They’d already made a Qualifying Offer per the terms of the CBA and Schultz did not contest it). The Oilers filed for arbitration in order to open up a second buyout window, which can then be used on either Ference or NN or maybe Purcell. Schultz will get signed somewhere near his salary from last season, the QO amount.

  49. Lloyd B. says:

    Oh Man. I just spent the past half hour crafting a cunning comment, hit the wrong button and away it went. If this posts twice my apologies. I was able to contribute my first Woodguy on the pay pal button. Thanks LT for your incredible dedication even during these dog days. Amazing.

    I am here all the time but rarely post as time, commitments and in general … where the hell do you guys find this stuff so quickly, don’t allow me to do the work to contribute at the level that is expected. Thanks to all your ..”staff”.. that post. 🙂

    From my perspective, the dashing silver fella needs to contribute. I’ve noticed that most of the crazy stuff happens after 9 pm AB time. Which by my reckoning is about the same time as all that expensive scotch he wins from the guys here starts to kick in.

    This is an incredible community and I come here as much for the extra-curicular .. steak spice, sugar tits, Gold Gerry Gold, the music .. You must do Bob Seger for an RE…his stuff before the silver bullet band is awesome…and the silver bullet band is incredible. Keep up the great work…CHEERS!!

  50. dangilitis says:

    leadfarmer:
    dangilitis,

    I don’t see why you buy him out.He’s gone in a year.If he plays well you can retain half of his contract and trade him for a 3rd at the trade deadline, if he doesn’t then you bury him.

    I agree I’m not surprised either. The interesting thing is that the way that this information came to me suggests that chiarelli does not think too highly of nikitin. I wouldn’t pencil him in regular action, although it also sounds like they will keep him in Edmonton.

  51. book¡je says:

    I think its time for a few Oct roster predictions.

    1. Nikitin is done and will be put on waivers and successfully sent to Bakersfield a few days before the end of training camp.

    2. Scrivens is not Chiarelli’s guy and Nilsson will have a strong training camp stopping every shot fired his way, so Scrivens will join Nikitin in Bakersfield. G Money will freak out.

    3. Draisaitl will be sent down on roster day after a good camp.

    Woodguy will predict the first two of these correctly and partially get the third one after changing his mind late in the process (after earlier picking Klink as the demotion). He will be pretty proud of his achievement.

    .

  52. Lowetide says:

    book¡je:
    I think Ference will be bought out. He strikes me as a guy with a very strong personality which is great if it aligns with the coach’s personality (last year).However, I think the new coach and GM’s perspective may not align with Ferrence.

    The one thing that could get Ference bought out is the desire to move on from his leadership imo. There’s no way (again my opinion) to know, but that would do it.

  53. Lowetide says:

    Lloyd B.:
    Oh Man.I just spent the past half hour crafting a cunning comment, hit the wrong button and away it went. If this posts twice my apologies.I was able to contribute my first Woodguy on the pay pal button.Thanks LT for your incredible dedication even during these dog days. Amazing.

    I am here all the time but rarely post as time, commitments and in general … where the hell do you guys find this stuff so quickly, don’t allow me to do the work to contribute at the level that is expected.Thanks to all your ..”staff”.. that post. :)

    From my perspective, the dashing silver fella needs to contribute.I’ve noticed that most of the crazy stuff happens after 9 pm AB time.Which by my reckoning is about the same time as all that expensive scotch he wins from the guys here starts to kick in.

    This is an incredible community and I come here as much for the extra-curicular .. steak spice, sugar tits, Gold Gerry Gold, the music .. You must do Bob Seger for an RE…his stuff before the silver bullet band is awesome…and the silver bullet band is incredible.Keep up the great work…CHEERS!!

    Thanks for the kind words, Sir! Seger would be a good choice, I’m actually scouting for the RE artist and he makes sense.

  54. book¡je says:

    Lowetide,

    Yes, that was what I was thinking. They want someone who sings a different tune in the dressing room.

    Note- I say that with a lot of respect for Ferrence.

    I have no way to know either, just surmising based on it being likely that a new coach would want his own choice of captain and because Chia has moved Ference previously. It’s tough to strip a ‘C’ and leave the on the bench a lot.

  55. Philosophil says:

    WHL: 16 players (26 %) including Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Draisaitl and Ethan Bear

    LT- Why do you hate Reinhardt 🙂

    Lloyd B- nailed it. 10 point landing, cheers!

  56. Lowetide says:

    Philosophil:
    WHL: 16 players (26 %) including Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Draisaitl and Ethan Bear

    LT- Why do you hate Reinhardt :-)

    Lloyd B- nailed it. 10 point landing, cheers!

    Haha. They didn’t draft Reinhart. It’s funny, I really like the guy. He was awesome for the Oil Kings.

  57. Chachi says:

    There is a better chance of Draisaitl spending significant time in Bakersfield than Nurse or Reinhart I think. Even if the “plan” is to keep both Ference and Nikitin with the team all season Nikitin’s injury history and Ference’s age and the hard miles he has put on his body over the years almost guarantee one or both will be on LTIR for decent chunks of the season. Additionally the cost of a UFA winger to take up an additional slot on a 1 yeard deal pushing Leon down the batting order will be way lower than the cost of adding another defenceman. The scenario Speeds laid out makes perfect sense.

  58. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    No to Seger.

    I’ve suggested it before… but I think you should go with Dinah Washington.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmBxVfQTuvI

    Too many perfect (straight up perfect songs).

    … and, of course, you have no interest at this point in Floyd…. which is cool.

    alternative:

    Gram Parsons and the Burritos

  59. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    Also… Leon is just the best.

    He really is the best!

  60. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    maybe pick a year instead of a band… like 1974.

  61. Chachi says:

    The Ramones would be a great RE band, just for the song titles alone.

  62. Lowetide says:

    I love Dinah Washington.

  63. square_wheels says:

    Lowetide,

    Hell ya, Seger doesn’t get nearly enough credit, would be a great choice.

    Lowetide can you refresh us all, with which artists/bands who you’ve featured in the past RE’s ?

    If anyone wants to have their jaws dropped, check out the woman singing in the dive bar in this seasons True Detective, she’s going to be huge : https://youtu.be/vwVX4cG6F9s

  64. Mr. D. says:

    Possession..corsi are only numbers. They don’t directly tell you anything about their DEFENSIVE game. There are so many stats that aren’t used for true defenders.

    wheatnoil: Why so? Daley is their worst possession D-man. They have cap room. If they sign Franson they’ve upgraded.

    Don’t understand their goalie decisions at all but I think this trade is a steal for Dallas.

    Edit: Also don’t know much about Stephen Johns but there’s quite a few people who seem to think he’s a real solid prospect. Anyone here know anything about him?

  65. Dicky94 says:

    Unless the Oilers sign Fehr or Glencorss I can’t see how Leon doesn’t make the team opening night. He seems very motivated to make the team next year, especially after having a taste of it last year. If he is impressive at camp I’m sure Chia will make room for him.

  66. book¡je says:

    Mr. D.:
    Possession..corsi are only numbers.

    I’m pretty sure they are words. Numbers look more like this:

    9
    17
    243.4

  67. book¡je says:

    Chachi:
    The Ramones would be a great RE band, just for the song titles alone.

    I’ve been trying to sell that for years – perfect for the Tambellini or MacT years – “I don’t wanna go down to the basement”, “now I wanna sniff some glue”, “lobotomy”, etc…

    Could use Needles and Pins for McDavid

  68. Pastor of Disaster says:

    LT, what is the comprehensive list of your RE artists? I know Joni and Allman Bros, and I assume Beatles and Stones have long been covered. Dylan? The Who? Pink Floyd? Zeppelin? I assume they’re long since used as well.

    U2 would be a great RE artist to introduce the Era of the Golden Child. Elevation, Beautiful Day, I Will Follow, Even Better Than the Real Thing… and those are just title suggestions for McDavid.

  69. Chachi says:

    book¡je,

    “Blitzkrieg Bop” might be a little on the nose for Leon, but “Pet Cemetary” is tailor made for Nikitin.

  70. Santa says:

    book¡je: I’m pretty sure they are words. Numbers look more like this:

    9
    17
    243.4

    That’s Numberwang!

  71. Hammers says:

    Dicky94:
    Unless the Oilers sign Fehr or Glencorss I can’t see how Leon doesn’t make the team opening night. He seems very motivated to make the team next year, especially after having a taste of it last year.If he is impressive at camp I’m sure Chia will make room for him.

    Agreed but if he doesn’t and Leon himself feels he should make it it could leave a bad taste in his mouth and I for one wouldn’t blame him. What happens with this situation is not supposed to be about money the team can save but about player development . Chia shouldn’t start out being a dick to any players .it will stay with him and don’t think players won’t talk about it .

  72. stevezie says:

    I still can’t believe no one got “piece of crap” or “fuckin’ up” on Neil young!

  73. square_wheels says:

    stevezie,

    He’s dead to me now, Neil put ol’Alberta down. Now if only Skynyrd was from here we’d be able to respond with something so impossibly fuck you, keep your ignorant nose out of our shit…..but in a song.

  74. Lowetide says:

    Pastor of Disaster:
    LT, what is the comprehensive list of your RE artists?I know Joni and Allman Bros, and I assume Beatles and Stones have long been covered.Dylan?The Who?Pink Floyd?Zeppelin?I assume they’re long since used as well.

    U2 would be a great RE artist to introduce the Era of the Golden Child.Elevation, Beautiful Day, I Will Follow, Even Better Than the Real Thing… and those are just title suggestions for McDavid.

    God, I don’t know if I remember. Stones, Dylan/Band, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Van Morrison, did we do the Who? don’t remember. I’ll have to look that up.

  75. square_wheels says:

    Anyone else going to miss Lettermans incredible taste in music ? Damn did he ever introduce me to some brilliant acts, and consistently showcased independent and extremely creative artists.

    If I’m picking a Ramone’s song for anyone in the RE series, it’s “I want to be sedated” and it’s for us fans wandering the wilderness since, forever.

  76. Gret99zky says:

    Lowetide: God, I don’t know if I remember. Stones, Dylan/Band, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Van Morrison, did we do the Who? don’t remember. I’ll have to look that up.

    Don’t you have something you would like to confess regarding the Beatles and Zep?

  77. Lowetide says:

    Gret99zky: Don’t you have something you would like to confess regarding theBeatles and Zep?

    Meh. Too mainstream.

  78. Gret99zky says:

    So no AC/DC.

    How about Jerry Rafferty?

  79. Lois Lowe says:

    An *ahem* modern band that has both the discography and range for a RE series is the Tragically Hip.

    I will also humbly submit, as I always do, Tom Waits. He’s just incredible and there’s just so much to work with.

    If I did an RE, or season’s autopsy, I think I’d start with Bad Religion.

  80. Connor'sreal says:

    book¡je: I’m pretty sure they are words. Numbers look more like this:

    9
    17
    243.4

    i

  81. Connor'sreal says:

    For the RE artist, it has to be Captain Beefheart.

    Has to.

  82. OF17 says:

    Fantastic deal for the Stars tonight IMO. Johns is getting overlooked in this deal. He’d be #2 after Nurse among Oilers D prospects, and he’s a RHD to boot. Then there’s the big upgrade from Garbutt to Sharp, and they lose Daley too, who might’ve been the least popular player of them all among Stars fans. Fantastic deal. Cap space converted into a lot of present and future value.

    I wonder if this is the white flag for Chicago re-signing Oduya. Hjalmarsson seems the best stylistic yin to Daley’s yang, and if not, does Chicago really have the money to plunk $3+ million on the third pair? Unless, of course, Seabrook is dealt.

    But no. I’d bet Oduya is a Sabre now.

  83. spoiler says:

    Lois Lowe:
    An *ahem* modern band that has both the discography and range for a RE series is the Tragically Hip.

    I will also humbly submit, as I always do, Tom Waits. He’s just incredible and there’s just so much to work with.

    If I did an RE, or season’s autopsy, I think I’d start with Bad Religion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaLjwSpZ6Cs

    Tambellini?

  84. vishcosity says:

    Is i a variable? I didn’t go to a Canerdian university.

    Liked that Souray piece.

    And Ryan thanks for the wine tip. We are in Sonoma county now trying to figure out how to sell photography to vineyards. Any ideas on that? Like terms I should know?

    I don’t mind failure in sales , it’s the repetition of failure that drives me nuts.

    Tom Waits. Seems appropriate for an era now hopefully gone by.

    Love the year idea. Rex? You almost never fail to capture something creative.

  85. Cameron says:

    Joy Division/New Order

  86. Lois Lowe says:

    spoiler,

    Precisely.

  87. Oil2Oilers says:

    Lloyd B.: , the music .. You must do Bob Seger for an RE

    FU, your kind words and your grampa rock. Its past 21:00MST and the kids want rock!

    Or in my case listen to Edmonton’s own Daniela Andrade. But no matter Seger is a good substitute for Hart (who I feel sound the same but in a good way)

    Either way ROM has rigged the rookie camp to be the same week as the Penticton Jazz fest and Leon is his boy so I imagine LT has let him choose the tunes.

  88. Lucinius says:

    Perfect song for the Oilers is, without a doubt, Rick Astley’s “Never Gonna Give You Up”. Especially the rickroll aspect. It is the Oilers personified.

  89. Oil2Oilers says:

    Lowetide: God, I don’t know if I remember. Stones, Dylan/Band, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Van Morrison, did we do the Who? don’t remember. I’ll have to look that up.

    I think i remember Bowie, it was an education

  90. Lois Lowe says:

    LT

    You did Springsteen, which was my proper introduction to the Boss. I kind of want to see him live now (I must be getting old).

    Have you done Tom Petty yet? Willie Nelson?

  91. Oil2Oilers says:

    Lois Lowe: An *ahem* modern band that has both the discography and range for a RE series is the Tragically Hip.

    Dellow has reliably informed us that no one outside of Ontario can truly understand the Hip. I think he used a combination of Corsi/On + Bob McKenzie BBQ slides to prove it.

    All in all your taste in music is delightful give or take an Operation Ivy reference.

  92. Lois Lowe says:

    Oil2Oilers,

    All I know is that I don’t know nothing…

  93. Richard S.S. says:

    Halfwise,

    Chiarelli filed for Arbitration for Schultz very early in the week. Sometime in the next few days (3-5 guesstimate) Arbitration hearings start and the letter ‘E’ occurs early in the alphabet. The fact it’s taken this many days to get a deal done means there might be a problem. Another problem that might occur is the Hearing occurring soon. While Nikitin may not get bought out, someone will most likely be done. Logic suggests Chiarelli is not happy with his present Cap Space.

  94. Connor'sreal says:

    Cameron,

    The RE artist contest is only open to fans of the following teams:

    Anaheim Ducks

    Atlanta Thrashers

    Boston Bruins

    Buffalo Sabres

    Carolina Hurricanes

    Chicago Blackhawks

    Colorado Avalanche

    Columbus Blue Jackets

    Dallas Stars

    Detroit Red Wings

    Edmonton Oilers

    Florida Panthers

    Los Angeles Kings

    Minnesota Wild

    Montreal Canadiens

    Nashville Predators

    New Jersey Devils

    New York Islanders

    New York Rangers

    Ottawa Senators

    Philadelphia Flyers

    Phoenix Coyotes

    Pittsburgh Penguins

    San Hose Sharks

    Saint Louis Blues

    Tampa Bay Lightning

    Toronto Maple Leafs

    Vancouver Canucks

    Washington Capitals

    Montreal Wanderers

    St. Louis Eagles

    Quebec Bulldogs

    Hamilton Tigers

    New York Americans

    Montreal Maroons

    New York Americans

    Pittsburgh Pirates

    Philadelphia Quakers

    St. Louis Eagles

    California Golden Seals

    Kansas City Scouts

    Cleveland Barons

    Colorado Rockies

    Minnesota North Stars

    Quebec Nordiques

    Hartford Whalers

  95. Bag of Pucks says:

    From Souray’s farewell address….

    “Scott Stevens: Thank you for being the most professional player I’ve ever witnessed. I still can’t believe you jumped in and fought Eric Lindros for me in a freaking preseason game my rookie year. I just wanted to prove to you that I had your back. When I was traded to Montreal in 2000, it was a complete shock. I will never forget that you came to my hotel room and sat and bullshitted with me for hours until I had to leave for my flight out. You are the definition of what a captain should be.”

    Epic. This is why I love hockey. An ungentlemanly game played by gentlemen.

  96. Connor'sreal says:

    vishcosity: Is i a variable?

    i is called an imaginary number, and is represented by the expression:

    i(squared) = −1

    I once had an instructor who was a math genius, and derived the number with about two months worth of chalk. I could follow it then, but can’t explain it.

  97. Oil2Oilers says:

    Lois Lowe:
    Oil2Oilers,

    All I know is that I don’t know nothing…

    Gords know we have seen the bottom of the barrel…

  98. Connor'sreal says:

    Oil2Oilers: Gords know we have seen the bottom of the barrel…

    Don’t be such a Downie.

  99. Bag of Pucks says:

    Oil2Oilers: I think i remember Bowie, it was an education

    LT nailed that set. Perfect blend of anthems, observations and curios. Pinups?!

    To be fair, Bowie was a perfect choice given how effeminate the Oilers were that season.

  100. Stelio Kontos (Formerly Zangetsu-Formerly Thinker) says:

    For musicians, can I suggest the up and coming japanese band Ladybaby.
    http://www.dorkly.com/post/75182/theres-something-different-about-this-new-j-pop-idol-group

  101. Connor'sreal says:

    Stelio Kontos (Formerly Zangetsu-Formerly Thinker),

    I can only relate that to other Japanese sensations like doorknob licking.

  102. jonrmcleod says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Thanks for remembering my birth year.

  103. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    As a West Coastal Canadian transplanted to the big stupid center of Ontario… I whole-heartedly agree with Dellow on The Hip.

    They are a middling to good, perfectly serviceable rock band. That’s it.

    The adoration Ontarians have for this band is bemusing to say the least.

    ————-
    One option on the Ramones suggestion would be to go for the old CBGB’s lineup…

    Of course, minus Talking Heads as they’ve already had a lash.

    But, Ramones, Patti Smith, Television, Blondie (etc.) would make for a nice, concise little run of tunes.

  104. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    jonrmcleod:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Thanks for remembering my birth year.

    Anytime, Jon.

    How’s the family? In full, blooming happiness, I imagine.

  105. jonrmcleod says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Family is well. Had our fourth (and last) child in Dec. Yours?

  106. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    jonrmcleod:
    Romulus Apotheosis,

    Family is well. Had our fourth (and last) child in Dec. Yours?

    I vaguely recall championing your fecundity. Congrats again.

    We’re great. Happy and healthy and 3 since Feb.

  107. stevezie says:

    square_wheels,

    I am going to miss everything about Letterman. His music was par excellance

  108. jonrmcleod says:

    Romulus Apotheosis,

    I 100% agree on The Hip. Gord Downie’s voice is like nails down a chalkboard.

  109. Cameron says:

    Connor’sreal,

    Huge Pens fan if you weren’t aware. That rarely comes up in conversation round here though.

  110. Cameron says:

    Lowetide:
    Weird trade for Dallas imo.

    Very weird on both ends. Chicago saves pocket change, and lose one of their (albeit aging and expensive) core players. Dallas pick up a winger in decline on a big contract and give up one of the more useful and inexpensive D they had spent years developing.
    Were both GMs high?

  111. Rip Fan Winkle says:

    Cameron: Very weird on both ends. Chicago saves pocket change, and lose one of their (albeit aging and expensive) core players. Dallas pick up a winger in decline on a big contract and give up one of the more useful and inexpensive D they had spent years developing.
    Were both GMs high?

    All I can think is it must be the points they want to replace, possibly.

    This isn’t pretty:
    http://somekindofninja.com/nhl/usage.php?f1=2014_s&f2=5v5&f3=&f5=DAL&f4=D&f7=20-&bubbleType=corsiRel&yAxis=qoc&update-filters=Update+Results

    Perhaps because it seems Hjalmarsson does the heavy lifting they can keep Daley with the zone push and shelter him?

    http://somekindofninja.com/nhl/usage.php?f1=2014_s&f2=5v5&f3=&f5=CHI&f4=D&f7=20-&bubbleType=corsiRel&yAxis=qoc&update-filters=Update+Results

  112. Captain Smarmy says:

    The next RE: band should be Slayer

    Connor McDavid – Show no Mercy
    Darnell Nurse – Angel of Death
    Mac-T /Lowe – Seasons of the Abyss

    Pretty much write themselves.

  113. Lowetide says:

    We could do BTO, and I could use ‘My Wheels Won’t Turn’ for Nik Nikitin.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Cha0nGzVo

  114. Doug McLachlan says:

    Cameron,

    It was mentioned here following the trade that over at Defending Big D that even Dallas fans know that Daley’s possession numbers are brutal so they are generally thrilled.

    Is Stephan Johns “just a guy” or a prospect I should know about?

  115. Магия 10 says:

    Lowetide:
    We could do BTO, and I could use ‘My Wheels Won’t Turn’ for Nik Nikitin.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Cha0nGzVo

    and Taking Care Of Business for Chia.

    Actually you could use the whole Bachman Cummings catalog.

  116. OF17 says:

    Doug McLachlan:
    Cameron,

    It was mentioned here following the trade that over at Defending Big D that even Dallas fans know that Daley’s possession numbers are brutal so they are generally thrilled.

    Is Stephan Johns “just a guy” or a prospect I should know about?

    Chicago fans are more upset about losing Johns than about losing Sharp. That should tell you something.

  117. Rube Foster says:

    C’mon fellas it’s got to the Talking Heads for the RE series.

    LT’s Blog should be subtitled ” More Songs About Buildings & Food”.

  118. godot10 says:

    The Rheostatics

    Dave Bidini even writes hockey books.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM7eA0HSb2o

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