FAST TRAIN MEETS NIGHT NIGHT TRAIN, FLAMES DOA

The Edmonton Oilers won two games in one night against the Calgary Flames, while also winning two games in one night against the Calgary Flames. The games themselves offered the viewer miles of ineffective play and all of the scoring seemed to get bunched into the third period (I’m not complaining). These are early days, but Leon Draisaitl and Griffin Reinhart appear to be well on their way to opening night gigs under the big top. And Connor McDavid? Fast train, big brain, young legs, skill forever. Holy crap.

OILERS SCORING 2015-16 PRESEASONTwo games and lots of scoring by the centers (3G, 3A) and that’s a nice surprise. The Edmonton game didn’t deliver a boxscore so I’m not sure it’s an official game, but if you see anything please pass along.

DEFENSE EV TOI

  1. Oscar Klefbom 16:09
  2. Andrew Ference 15:18 (EDM)
  3. Justin Schultz 14:43
  4. Mark Fayne 14:20 (EDM)
  5. Andrej Sekera 13:54 (EDM)
  6. Brandon Davidson 13:45 (EDM)
  7. Jordan Oesterle 13:34 (EDM)
  8. Eric Gryba 13:23
  9. Nikita Nikitin 12:59 (EDM)
  10. Griffin Reinhart 12:55
  11. Joey Laleggia 12:49
  12. Darnell Nurse 12:39

Interesting numbers. The Oilers used all twelve defensemen a lot but the AHL D (Davidson, Oesterle, Laleggia, Nurse) all got plenty of time. Based on what I’ve read, the Calgary game had a lot better defensive structure and it looks like Reinhart played well. Todd McLellan mentioned Nikita Nikitin (quote below) but beyond that I’m not sure there was much to say about the Edmonton crew. First game of pre-season, looked like some chaos and missed assignments. They’ll need some Archie Bell and the Drells.

FORWARD EV TOI

  1. Connor McDavid 13:40 (EDM)
  2. Jordan Eberle 12:47
  3. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 12:24
  4. Taylor Hall 12:19  (EDM)
  5. Leon Draisaitl 11:20 (EDM)
  6. Benoit Pouliot 11:03
  7. Anton Lander 10:38 (EDM)
  8. Matt Ford 10:25 (EDM)
  9. Andrew Miller 10:14 (EDM)
  10. Greg Chase 10:03
  11. Phil McRae 10:01
  12. Tyler Pitlick 9:58 (EDM)
  13. Nail Yakupov 9:56 (EDM)
  14. Anton Slepyshev 9:56
  15. Matt Hendricks 9:55
  16. Bogdan Yakimov 9:50
  17. Rob Klinkhammer 9:50
  18. Mark Letestu 9:37
  19. Ryan Hamilton 9:37 (EDM)
  20. Jujhar Khaira 9:34
  21. Teddy Purcell 8:43 (EDM)
  22. Lauri Korpikoski 8:41
  23. Josh Winquist 8:22 (EDM)
  24. Luke Gazdic 8:04 (EDM)

In watching the EDM game it did seem to me that the McDavid line (Hall was hurt mid-third and Leon popped up and replaced Purcell) got a bit of a push. McDavid had the legs and Leon did too, no surprise a veteran NHL coach would put them together. When we talked about Leon going to the wing, the original thought was “right side” and Todd McLellan’s thoughts below reflect that line on thinking. Where does this put Nail Yakupov?

  • Todd McLellan: “I look at Leon Draisiatl, and in my opinion Nugent-Hopkins and Connor McDavid are going to be #1 and #2 centremen in our organization for a long, long time, they’re that talented and that good. Not that Leon isn’t… But career-wise, he might love to be on one of their wings and playing in the top six rather than maybe being that third-line centre. I think it’s really unfair to peg him there, but we have to look at it from that perspective. [The defensive] responsibilities as a winger are somewhat less, his boardwork is quite good, and one of the things that impressed me the most about Leon is his ability to play on his backhand. Joe Thornton has incredible eyes and makes incredible passes on his backhand. For a young man like Leon, he did the exact same thing at our summer development camp, which is something I wasn’t aware of.” Source

We’ve talked about this before, and I received considerable push back. The reality is that we’re early days, Draisaitl may still end up in Bakersfield. However, the more you stare at the roster without Leon and then imagine his size, speed and passing ability, I’ll bet money the new coach is arguing for him behind closed doors. Where does that put Nail? Possibly a tough spot, but McLellan likes offensive players and Nail has many unique qualities. He’s a rugged winger with a hammer and the Oilers don’t have many shooters on this team. He made a subtle little play on the Leon goal, bet McLellan noticed it as much as the goal. The real play here is to deal Purcell. Today.

What a fabulous pass by McDavid, he was splendid all over the ice last night. I think we’re going to need some new words to describe him, folks. Subtle little pass to Leon and he’s in alone, took about .025 of a second. It was a flick, really. He also seems to be in the right spot a tremendous amount, probably because he’s always moving. This is a young player, but he can forecheck, backcheck, pass like a demon and oh my that pass to Leon.

THE RAILROAD DON’T RUN NO MORE

calgaryIn the moments after Darnell Nurse fought Mount Smith, the camera caught Bob Hartley saying goodbye to at least a little bit of the Flames intimidation game. It’s been hammering the Oilers senseless since CFP left town and it’ll take a lot more than two rookies fighting in a pre-season game to make it go away. I don’t condone fighting, it will be a good day when it’s outlawed, but the Oilers are going to need to stand up to Calgary if they’re going to pass them—and last night, they started as they mean to go.

TODD MCLELLAN’S WORDS

  • “It was first of all, a win. That’s important for our group. It was a win where we came from behind in the first period, mentally for is that’s important.”
  • “I thought we got better as the night went on, I thought we were a little tentative, a little ragged early.”
  • “We saw some things both positive and negative that we were working on we have evidence now we can go to the players now.”
  • “We are in such an infancy stage right now, we have a lot of work to do in a lot of different areas.”
  • “The great thing we’ve done here now is create competition in the net.”
  • “The right side is a strength if he’s going to play on the wing.” (Draisaitl)
  • “His skating looks strong right now.” (Draisaitl)
  • “We all focus on his offense, but he’s responsible [defensively].  I felt good about his penalty-killing. I didn’t know I was going to use him, but as the night went on, we used him and he was good positionally. When you have legs like that, you can recover from errors a lot quicker, and he has the ability to do that. But he’s not flying all over the place in the D zone, he stops, he slows down, he understands he can get back to full speed quickly. He was very responsible defensively tonight. We’ll see where it goes from there.” (McDavid)
  • “I thought he looked dangerous when he had the puck and I thought he played well on both sides of it. He had a couple of good scoring chances, and we got what we expected for Day One.” (McDavid)
  • “I thought his game matched ours, he got better as the night went on.” (Nikitin)

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LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A rocking show this morning, hope you can join me and Lt._Eric. 10am, TSN1260, scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, Cult of Hockey. We’ll talk about last night’s game and the Leon-Nail situation. Jon is all the way out in Petticoat Junction so we hope the phone works!
  • Jeff Hauser, SB Nation. Early NFL stories, it’s been a tale of two weeks. Seahawks, Eagles, JETS! Broncos.
  • Jesse Spector, The Sporting News. Blue Jays have too much pitching now and they always had the hitting. Plus Cubs, Mets.
  • Brian Swane, Edmonton Sun. Eddies going for it, Golden Bears football improving, Oil Kings ready for their season.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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137 Responses to "FAST TRAIN MEETS NIGHT NIGHT TRAIN, FLAMES DOA"

  1. RMGS says:

    Yak had the second assist on Leon’s goal. Here’s to hoping that after every game this year against our mighty team the godless Flames feel like they lost twice.

  2. LostBoy says:

    The Oilers have cell phone photos of the scoresheet for the Edmonton game posted:

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=107732

  3. Psyche says:

    I missed the Nurse fight – How did he do vs Smith? What led to it?

  4. zatch says:

    So hard to look into one very silly game. where both the rosters and experience are wonky. Still fun though. What did people think of them there goalers?

    Another important note: Drai will play on the wing, be traded, or Nuge will have to do the same very soon. You can not put one of those men in 3C role. Bad use of resources, waste of a massive talent, and will piss off the player. What’s the preference here? I like Drai padding out the wing.

  5. sliderule says:

    Gregor commented that wingers are playing lower covering the slot rather than points.

    Tmac is making the first step towards a better defence by protecting the area with high shot percentage.

    Coaching matters

  6. Visually better says:

    Couldn’t agree more, Purcell and his money need to find a way out of here. Slepy and Yak2 are raw, but possess all the things we need so desperately in our bottom six going on, which is where Purcell would obviously fit in if Drai is going to be on the team. A line up I would love to see against Winnipeg would be something like this:

    Pou Nuge Ebs
    Hall Mcdavid Drai (Hall needs possession guys)
    Slepy (Lander/Yak2) Yakupov
    Hendy Letestu Klinkhammer

    Thoughts?

  7. book¡je says:

    I’m a big fan of the AHL/NHL split in camp. What a powerful tool to use in camp to motivate without having to actually send someone down. How does Nikitin respond if he finds himself on the B-team for example.

    Also, it seems to be a good plan to figure out who should be on the NHL team prior to te start of the season.

  8. Halfwise says:

    Wouldn’t a good GM trade Purcell for OEL?

  9. book¡je says:

    LostBoy:
    The Oilers have cell phone photos of the scoresheet for the Edmonton game posted:

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=107732

    Poorly taken cell phone photos – SHADOW!!’

  10. Psyche says:

    JD¡™,

    Thanks JD.

  11. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    book¡je:

    Also, it seems to be a good plan to figure out who should be on the NHL team prior to te start of the season.

    Don’t be ridiculous. That’s what the first 10 games of the season are for.

  12. RMGS says:

    zatch: Another important note: Drai will play on the wing, be traded, or Nuge will have to do the same very soon. You can not put one of those men in 3C role. Bad use of resources, waste of a massive talent, and will piss off the player. What’s the preference here? I like Drai padding out the wing.

    Not a fan of this line of thinking. A much bigger waste of resources is trading away skilled C depth for no good reason other than “top-six/bottom-six” conventions.

  13. LOObird says:

    I have no idea who that woman is, but that rickenbacker has made me fall in love.

  14. zatch says:

    Visually better,

    I’m not sold that now is the time to move out Teddy P. Let’s see how Drai does on the wing on the 3rd line in real NHl action first. And how Purcell does once we get going into Hockey that counts. I’ve read often that vets take longer to get going, as they are both older and less inclined to show off and go super hard in a SS game.

    That said, come deadline day, if Drai has shown he can handle it (and really, even if he hasn’t) Purcell should be moved on. Either way, he’s UFA after this year.

  15. JD¡™ says:

    LOObird: that rickenbacker has made me fall in love.

    Does it make you walk like an Egyptian?

  16. blainer says:

    Lost in all thee hype on how well Dry and CMD are playing was the standout performance from Nilsson in Calgary. He looked an awful lot like Ben Bishop. Scrivens and even Talbot are in a dog fight IMO. Talbot will make the team because of the price paid but Nilsson may well get more starts if he keeps this up.

    An excellent signing indeed. Our season WILL come down to goaltending and special teams.

  17. Tarkus says:

    JD¡™: Does it make you walk like an Egyptian?

    Or recall the craziness of yesterday’s action (i.e., Manic Monday)?

  18. zatch says:

    RMGS,

    Do you honestly believe in a cap NHL any team can run McD-Nuge-Drai? Are you kidding? Do you think that all 3 players will be good with playing the minutes that would have to be split in that set up? Do you think the Oilers can obtain and afford wingers that aren’t a waste of the centers talents?

    It’s wonderful to believe in 3 scoring lines. It’s another thing to decide that you can put high-end talent on all three lines for more than a deadline into playoffs and have it work. That’s not where the Oilers are.

  19. borisnikov says:

    Just as I had hoped, and so IT begins!

  20. Bag of Pucks says:

    zatch:
    Visually better,

    I’m not sold that now is the time to move out Teddy P. Let’s see how Drai does on the wing on the 3rd line in real NHl action first. And how Purcell does once we get going into Hockey that counts. I’ve read often that vets take longer to get going, as they are both older and less inclined to show off and go super hard in a SS game.

    That said, come deadline day, if Drai has shown he can handle it (and really, even if he hasn’t) Purcell should be moved on. Either way, he’s UFA after this year.

    I’ve been banging the drum to drop Purcell (trade or buy-out) since the season ended. Reason being: he’s extremely poor defensively, physically, and most importantly, bad value for money cap-wise.

    Yak, Drai and possibly even Andrew Miller are all knocking at the door for that spot and they’re blocked by an overpriced one dimensional vet with footspeed issues.

    Free up that money and now you’ve got the flexibility to add another Top 3 D.

    The difference between MacT and Steve Yzerman is Stevie Wonder found a way to move out his dead money (Purcell) for Gagner (more dead money) and then quickly moved out the latter as well. Meanwhile, we keep our dead money on the books.

  21. Visually better says:

    zatch,

    Oh absolutely, i totally agree. but what Purcell offers at his best, still doesn’t provide what we need in our bottom six. I really believe thats where he belongs, and i know we are in need of wiley vets on this team, but we need players who are willing to play physical and do dirty work. Honestly I would rather Hendricks play up our line up than Purcell, he just can’t bring anything we don’t already have plenty of.

  22. Bag of Pucks says:

    LT, how about an NHL rule change that eliminates fighting unless it’s an Oiler beating up a Flame?

  23. Jordan says:

    LostBoy:
    The Oilers have cell phone photos of the scoresheet for the Edmonton game posted:

    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=107732

    I love the caption at the top of the box score page…

    Due to technical difficulties, the NHL was unable to post the box score from Monday’s Oilers-Flames game at Rexall Place. You can view the game sheets below or view a partially-completed box score here (courtesy ESPN)

    Getting back to the situation at hand with the Oilers…I’m torn between which meme better describes my feelings this morning. Maybe both?

    http://giphy.com/gifs/smallworlds-lF1XZv45kIwMw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UBcF6n-skk

  24. jimmers2 says:

    zatch,

    Obviously Purcell is the most redundant of the players you mention (with Draisaitl, Yakupov and Eberle as RW). Nevertheless, Draisaitl still has less than a year’s NHL experience and has two full seasons to go, including the one about to start, on his ELC. He is not forcing the Oilers hand in the short term and replacing (trading) RNH with Draisaitl this season is sheer madness.

    For what it is worth, Draisaitl has said more than once that he would be happy to play wing.

  25. Visually better says:

    Bag of Pucks: I’ve been banging the drum to drop Purcell (trade or buy-out) since the season ended. Reason being: he’s extremely poor defensively, physically, and most importantly, bad value for money cap-wise.

    Yak, Drai and possibly even Andrew Miller are all knocking at the door for that spot and they’re blocked by an overpriced one dimensional vet with footspeed issues.

    Free up that money and now you’ve got the flexibility to add another Top 3 D.

    The difference between MacT and Steve Yzerman is Stevie Wonder found a way to move out his dead money (Purcell) for Gagner (more dead money) and then quickly moved out the latter as well. Meanwhile, we keep our dead money on the books.

    Nailed it, as per usual B.O.P.

    Having a spot even for guys like Parkirnen, Pitlick, Yak2, Slepy, Miller etc.. to fight over and generate competition would be beneficial. Freeing up that money for a d-man would be best case scenario but almost impossible to do mid season. Like you said, the time to do that was before the season started but freeing up his money either way is a bonus.

  26. RMGS says:

    zatch:
    RMGS,

    Do you honestly believe in a cap NHL any team can run McD-Nuge-Drai? Are you kidding? Do you think that all 3 players will be good with playing the minutes that would have to be split in that set up? Do you think the Oilers can obtain and afford wingers that aren’t a waste of the centers talents?

    It’s wonderful to believe in 3 scoring lines. It’s another thing to decide that you can put high-end talent on all three lines for more than a deadline into playoffs and have it work. That’s not where the Oilers are.

    So, the Oilers have elite, skilled depth down the middle for the first time since … ever?… with Nuge on a value deal long term and Leon and McDavid on their ELCs, with skilled wingers a plenty on good deals and you’re thinking, “trade someone!”

  27. book¡je says:

    One would think a multi-million $ operation like the Oilers and/or the NHL could hire some intern to type out the box scores from the photo and post it as a PDF or something.

    Maybe we are not subsidizing them enough?

  28. Chico21 says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Teddy (The Pillow) Purcell

  29. Really? says:

    We have just watched a split squad game and already we have fans proposing the trading of potentially elite prospects on entry level contracts (Draisaitl) or the trading of elite level centres (RNH).

    While I can understand the excitement and enthusiasm, get a grip.

    This is way too early to be making decisions of this magnitude. MacLellan doesn’t even really know the players he has, much less their shortcomings and potential.

    All of this will work out over the 6-8 weeks. For now just enjoy the fact that the Oilers beat the Flames and all is right with the world.

  30. dustrock says:

    Draisaitl looks like a more confident, attacking player, with better skating. I saw him good in the defensive zone as well, moving his head around and cutting off the slot.

    Both he and McDavid are going to be hard to handle coming off the boards, and Schultz might get career numbers if he can start reading their passing and cheating in from the blue.

    I saw Oesterle pretty good last night. I think Joey Legs might have him beat overall, but he’s not a bad player.

    Talbot started tentative but settled in. He’ll be fine. Brossoit was again very solid and I hadn’t previously noticed that he’s a pretty good stickhandler.

    Friend who was at the Calgary game was very impressed with Klefbom, said Schultz actually played quite well, Nurse is more talented than Reinhart but was a bit more all over the place, and Reinhart’s skating didn’t look like an issue at all.

  31. jimmers2 says:

    “In the moments after Darnell Nurse fought Mount Smith, the camera caught Bob Hartley saying goodbye to at least a little bit of the Flames intimidation game.”

    Hard to believe Nurse is one season out of junior, he is 100% badass bully. He was almost grinning while Smith was throwing haymakers last night. He got control of a rather bigger man (Smith is 6’7″ or something close) by going right at him, grabbing his chin strap (throat?) and jerking his head around. Nurse plainly loves the contest too much to be intimidated and he will one-punch a few hard men once he gets some more muscle.

    Hartley didn’t look too happy after that fight…

  32. jake70 says:

    book¡je:
    One would think a multi-million $ operation like the Oilers and/or the NHL could hire some intern to type out the box scores from the photo and post it as a PDF or something.

    Maybe we are not subsidizing them enough?

    Wasn’t thinking when I agreed to go back in April, but paid 95 dollars for an EXHIBITION game this Saturday in Halfiax for Carolina-Islanders. FFS. (Part of a family outing to visit sister in Cole Harbour – will drink lots of the water there and start producing kids and purchasing old dryers…lol) Don’t worry they are being subsidized.

    And that pass by McDavid, LT described it very well, was surprised to not see as many comments on it in the game thread… outstanding subtle sort of “eyes in the back of his head” type of pass.

  33. Bag of Pucks says:

    Chico21:
    Bag of Pucks,

    Teddy (The Pillow) Purcell

    For sure. I’ve been calling him ‘Teddy Ruxpin’ but it’s the same idea.

    He literally approaches NHL hockey like it’s a game of ringette.

  34. Woogie63 says:

    I had the Calgary game on my TV last night. To my eye Shultz, Klefbom and Reinhart all played very good minutes.

    Reinhart was a sneaky, dirty player a few times, which surprised me in a good way. At the end of the second period the Flames toughes were looking to engage Reinhart.

  35. Bag of Pucks says:

    Woogie63:
    I had the Calgary game on my TV last night.To my eye Shultz, Klefbom and Reinhart all played very good minutes.

    Reinhart was a sneaky, dirty player a few times, which surprised me in a good way.At the end of the second period the Flames toughes were looking to engage Reinhart.

    One thing I caught on that broadcast was one of the Flames’ homer announcers suggesting that it looked like the Islanders may have given up on Reinhart too soon, which the other homer grudgingly had to agree with.

  36. jake70 says:

    Just watched the Nurse exchange with Smith. Can someone clarify the rules on fighting and helmet on or off – how that works?

  37. book¡je says:

    Really?:

    All of this will work out over the 6-8 weeks. For now just enjoy the fact that the Oilers beat the Flames and all is right with the world.

    Dallas?

    You do realize that the season starts in two weeks?

  38. Tokyo Oil says:

    First game everyone. Let’s watch a few more before we start the recommendations and arguments regarding personnel. Let McClellan do his thing.

    How to keep the 3 elite C it appears we have? Sign Drai to a 7 year deal at 4.5 per similar to Klefbom. 30+ million at 22 is hard to refuse plus everyone on this team knows that special times are ahead. No need for players to be greedy, this team is gonna rock for years. Few athletes like losing no matter how much they make.

  39. Water Fire says:

    zatch:
    RMGS,

    Do you honestly believe in a cap NHL any team can run McD-Nuge-Drai? Are you kidding? Do you think that all 3 players will be good with playing the minutes that would have to be split in that set up? Do you think the Oilers can obtain and afford wingers that aren’t a waste of the centers talents?

    It’s wonderful to believe in 3 scoring lines. It’s another thing to decide that you can put high-end talent on all three lines for more than a deadline into playoffs and have it work. That’s not where the Oilers are.

    If you run pairs you can pay 6 high end forwards in the top nine as opposed to 6 in the top 6. It also allows for young players to contribute and be sheltered.

  40. JD¡™ says:

    book¡je,

    The Oilers won twice in one night, and the new season of Dallas starts in two weeks?

    It’s like the 80s really are back. Now where is my spandex…?

  41. speeds says:

    The Oilers could, theoretically, sign all of:

    Lander
    Yakupov
    Draisaitl
    Reinhart
    Schultz
    all three goalies

    to long term deals this upcoming summer, or at least gauge their willingness to sign longer term at a price point they like.

  42. zatch says:

    RMGS,

    You are suggesting that stashing a high end, top 3 pick or better center on a 3rd line (and yes, you have lines that are prioritized, there are finite minutes to be played) is both something the player will accept and a good use of resources. It isn’t. As for lauding the depth, that’s wonderful. Guess what. The Oilers have massive, massive holes peppering the rest of the roster. Trading should not be out of the question.

    I myself advocate Drai to the wing. He’s really damn good, and he can move over in case of injury, shakeup, for specific situations etc. Unlikely to get proper return for him.

  43. Ducey says:

    Oilers fans at their best:

    Game one of the preseason: Trade Purcell !

    Offseason review: Management messed up by playing the kids too high in the lineup and not providing them with enough veteran support.

  44. slopitch says:

    Nail made a good play allowing CMD to get the puck on the Drai goal. Drai and CMD were fantastic all night. Lander, Miller and Winquist also caught my eye.

    Purcell is in a world of hurt on this team. I’m not sure he makes it. Although I think the Oilers made the right play keeping him around and saving the future cap space.

    Ive seen several people online state that if Drai gets a top 6 wing position then Yak is in trouble. I disagree. No need to move the player. Let him play 3RW with Lander and continue to develop over the year. Injuries happen. He’ll get his chance.

    I thought Nikitin played fine yesterday. I liked Sekera as well. He was calm on the puck but sometimes tried too much with the puck.

    How did Shleppy look?

    Its still very early to make sweeping statements although momentum can matter.

  45. Lowetide says:

    Ducey:
    Oilers fans at their best:

    Game one of the preseason:Trade Purcell !

    Offseason review:Management messed up by playing the kids too high in the lineup and not providing them with enough veteran support.

    Purcell off the books is the plan, no?

  46. speeds says:

    Ducey:
    Oilers fans at their best:

    Game one of the preseason:Trade Purcell !

    Offseason review:Management messed up by playing the kids too high in the lineup and not providing them with enough veteran support.

    Not mutually exclusive.

    That aside, maybe Chiarelli ideally would have moved Purcell, but I doubt if it’s something he never thought of – you need another team to make it happen.

  47. Visually better says:

    Ducey,

    hmmm… pretty sure I didn’t like the deal the day it happened. Extremely lateral move, just with more money being tied up. But whatever you say doc

  48. russ99 says:

    Meh, the cap penalty next year or retained salary for dumping Purcell and Nikitin wouldn’t have been worth it.

    No team gets through a season with 18+2, so we’ll need extras, and we may get something back at the deadline. At worst we can bury one in Bakersfield.

    Ference’s NMC is a vastly bigger roadblock.

  49. Ducey says:

    Lowetide: Purcell off the books is the plan, no?

    Sure. I’d be happy if they could trade him at the trade deadline. But at this point we don’t even know if Leon will stick, Connor is 18, and Yak is still wandering in the wilderness. Lander is really only in his second season.

    As Chia said this summer. They don’t start playing real NHL hockey until game 10. Until the kids prove (over 50 games) they can play, you keep Purcell.

    I guess you could look to upgrade on him, but no team is going to take his full cap hit this early in the season. As he is basically untradeable (unless you take someone else’s headache), for better or worse he is part of the veteran presence up front.

  50. Water Fire says:

    Purcell has skill and brings nothing else. I expect that this will be addressed now with Chiarelli in charge as soon as he is able to do something reasonable.

    I REALLY like the idea (because we don’t yet have evidence but am confident it will happen) that the Oilers will no longer use players that don’t contribute something valuable to the team and/or can’t play at an NHL level.

    I REALLY like the fact that people running the Oilers actually know what a proper NHL players looks like and don’t need a year to suss it out. A few games is enough to tell who should be on the NHL team at this point.

    After that it would take some time to tell how best to deploy the players that are capable of doing what needs to be done to compete. Very happy so far with what they are doing. It’s weird to be able to say that. POSD, post Oiler stress disorder.

    I also am confident Chiarelli gets the cap and is planning ahead because he said so. I don’t think he’ll snooker himself again, if he actually did that in Boston. It may have been the mooks he worked with and for.

  51. Bag of Pucks says:

    Ducey:
    Oilers fans at their best:

    Game one of the preseason:Trade Purcell !

    Offseason review:Management messed up by playing the kids too high in the lineup and not providing them with enough veteran support.

    Yes, I really noticed the support that Purcell was providing Hall and McDavid last night. That line clearly doesn’t work without him.

    Leon Draisaitl is a better option than Ruxpin in the Top 6 all the live long day.

    Soft and too easy to play against. This is the root issue with these losing Oiler teams. Purcell is the poster boy for it.

  52. hunter1909 says:

    It’s important that Lowetide didn’t mention anything about Yakupov’s goal.

    The last thing anyone needs, is worrying about former 1st overall picks who score goals in actual hockey games.

    Hope they can trade him to Anaheim, so they can send him to their AHL team.

  53. russ99 says:

    Also most NHL teams have cap problematic players that they can’t realistically get rid of.

    How Chia deals with ours to maximize cap room to complete building the roster will be key.

  54. Ducey says:

    Visually better:
    Ducey,

    hmmm… pretty sure I didn’t like the deal the day it happened. Extremely lateral move, just with more money being tied up. But whatever you say doc

    Great. Gold star for you on not liking the deal. But Purcell is useful from the point of view that having him in the lineup means you don’t have to force feed a kid again. The Oilers have done that too much.

    Its swell to say lets trade him, but he will just get back someone else with cap/ performance issues.

  55. Water Fire says:

    Purcell is not better than Yak, Drai or any other player who can handle a puck. He provides no veteran support, he has to be sheltered, he is slow and expensive. It is far better to give young players TOI who can improve than older players in decline.

  56. Магия 10 says:

    JD¡™:
    book¡je,

    The Oilers won twice in one night, and the new season of Dallas starts in two weeks?

    It’s like the 80s really are back. Now where is my spandex…?

    Oilers and Dallas. As long as it’s the 80s. Not the 90s..

  57. Visually better says:

    Ducey,

    Or if you read what i said.. replacing him with a younger kid in the bottom six with a cap hit of $925,000. Having hendricks up in the line up if you’re forced to. Try reading the comments before making sweeping statements, its important for a debate. Im talking about Purcell specifically, not a ‘veteran’ sheltering the kids.

  58. Real_Hockey_Fan says:

    Chico21:
    Bag of Pucks,

    Teddy (The Pillow) Purcell

    Teddy Ruxpin has more grit than Teddy Purcell!

  59. jm363561 says:

    RMGS: So, the Oilers have elite, skilled depth down the middle for the first time since … ever?… with Nuge on a value deal long term and Leon and McDavid on their ELCs, with skilled wingers a plenty on good deals and you’re thinking, “trade someone!”

    Why not? Much as I love them I would trade Nuge or Leon for a mega return, say Doughty, Keith or OEL.

  60. slopitch says:

    I wonder if Toronto would take on Purcell. Purcell does have an expiring contract. Maybe they are out of fringe prospects to move?

    The Oilers have no need to move Purcell though unless a trade is imminent. There isn’t many options to spend money on free agents and they seem to have enough cap space.

  61. RMGS says:

    jm363561: Why not? Much as I love them I would trade Nuge or Leon for a mega return, say Doughty, Keith or OEL.

    ¿Verdad?

  62. Магия 10 says:

    “McLellan likes offensive players and Nail has many unique qualities. He’s a rugged winger with a hammer and the Oilers don’t have many shooters on this team. He made a subtle little play on the Leon goal, bet McLellan noticed it as much as the goal. The real play here is to deal Purcell. Today.”

    He would have noticed that alright. Broadcasters played it back a few times to see if it was a 2nd assist and said it was great whatever it was. It does appear on the late scoresheet. The EN was nice but that assist was music.

    The comments above where TMac talked about how much harder the league is 10 and 20 games in are relevant though. Will be great if Purcell is irrelevant by Christmas. Coach is smart. He can phase Purcell out of the top 9 based on Yak and Drai keeping their heads above water with increased opportunity.

  63. dustrock says:

    Not sure of zone starts and QoC, but nice to see Klefbom posting a 62 EV CF%, presumably against Calgary’s top forwards.

  64. McSorley33 says:

    Ducey,

    Oilers fans at their best:
    Game one of the preseason: Trade Purcell !
    Offseason review: Management messed up by playing the kids too high in the lineup and not providing them with enough veteran support.
    ****************************************************************************************
    Agreed. Stevie Y is kicking himself in the ass for letting Teddy go…..

    Also, at the age of 30 – I see Teddy only getting faster as we head into the start of the season.

    Anyone heard the joke about Teddy playing with Connor and Taylor…..

  65. Truth says:

    jake70:
    Just watched the Nurse exchange with Smith.Can someone clarify the rules on fighting and helmet on or off – how that works?

    If the player wearing a visor gets an instigator penalty they get assessed an additional 2 minutes unsportsmanlike penalty for instigating a fight while wearing a visor. Applicable to goalies as well.

    Odd rule, because I believe they are grandfathering visors for all new NHLers plus immediately stepping in to break up a fight if one of them removes their helmet prior. So, if any young guys want to fight while not getting an additional 4 minutes for instigating + instigating while wearing a visor they might as well take a slashing/high sticking/cross checking/elbowing/charging penalty to coax an opponent into fighting them.

    Edit: Smith did not get an instigator (therefore no add’l unsportsmanlike), although by the highlights it looks like it would have been warranted.

  66. Магия 10 says:

    This is weird but if you try a players old team’s you see mostly the same data but with some profile differences.

    http://kings.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8473962
    http://lightning.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8473962
    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8473962

    Which leads to the question. Did Purcell play LW for the Kings?

  67. Bank Shot says:

    speeds:
    The Oilers could, theoretically, sign all of:

    Lander
    Yakupov
    Draisaitl
    Reinhart
    Schultz
    all three goalies

    to long term deals this upcoming summer, or at least gauge their willingness to sign longer term at a price point they like.

    Do you do that and then just accept the fact that you lose Eberle in 4 years and Hall in 5?
    McDavid will need a $7 million dollar raise in 3 years if he is who everyone thinks he is. Nurse could be looking for $5-6 million.

    Its going to be a serious crunch in 3 years, and doomsday for sure in 4 when Eberle’s contract expires. Then the Oilers will surely have to cut ties with some serious talent.

    I’m not saying it’ll be the end of the world, but it will mean the departure of at least one or two of the 7 top ten picks they currently have to build around.

    The Oilers need to start winning now. Their window to have a ridiculous amount of talented players on the same roster ends with the McDavid ELC.

    If they are going to be a juggernaut at any point, the next 3-4 years are their best opportunity. Afterwards they will be bleeding talent.

  68. Snowman says:

    zatch:
    RMGS,

    You are suggesting that stashing a high end, top 3 pick or better center on a 3rd line (and yes, you have lines that are prioritized, there are finite minutes to be played) is both something the player will accept and a good use of resources. It isn’t. As for lauding the depth, that’s wonderful. Guess what. The Oilers have massive, massive holes peppering the rest of the roster. Trading should not be out of the question.

    I myself advocate Drai to the wing. He’s really damn good, and he can move over in case of injury, shakeup, for specific situations etc. Unlikely to get proper return for him.

    You can have three lines that play 18 minutes each. Fourth line doesn’t need to play if the top 3 lines can kick ass. That would be just fine with me. Everyone gets time, noone is pissed off, Oilers win.

  69. Snowman says:

    jm363561: Why not? Much as I love them I would trade Nuge or Leon for a mega return, say Doughty, Keith or OEL.

    Nuge or Leon won’t get you any of those defenders. You have no idea how good either of those guys are going to be so you may lose that trade. Those teams are not going to trade those players because its insane and also aside from Arizona they don’t need centers. The problem with Arizona is Maloney has said that he’s not trading OEL. If you trade Nuge, you have 18 year old centers as your top 2 centers… that worked out real well last time.. If you trade Leon you’re back to having only 4 centers… its ok to have depth down the middle.

    Other than that…good plan. Really solid.

  70. Soup Fascist says:

    Магия 10: “McLellan likes offensive players and Nail has many unique qualities. He’s a rugged winger with a hammer and the Oilers don’t have many shooters on this team. He made a subtle little play on the Leon goal, bet McLellan noticed it as much as the goal. .

    Yak, also with the subtle dirty play of “helping” Wideman into the Calgary net in the 3rd, immediately followed by drawing a crowd and a cross checking penalty from Wideman. Yak has that “prickish” side to him, that I really like. It really seems to drive other teams (and I am sure, Don Cherry) wingy – but we need more of it.

    For all MacT said that was crap, I really have to believe the Nikitin conditioning thing last year was true. I think McLellan”s comments after the game hinted at that. As well anytime they showed Nikitin on the bench on the big screen he was sucking wind big time. Keeping with “Train” theme, can we please send Nikitin on a Midnight Train to Georgia – the country, not the U.S. state?

    And he can take Ference with him. As great a humanitarian as everyone seems to think Ference is – he is glacially slow. There were a few sequences last night (including one when he took a late 3rd period penalty) where he looked utterly and completely lost and mired in quicksand. Sad to see. And I know no way out of this mess, other than paying him to munch on celery in the press box. Does anyone hold out hope that he can be serviceable as a #6?

  71. Bag of Pucks says:

    JD¡™:
    The look on his face.

    Good find. Now the background image on my phone.

    That photo makes me feel the way children feel when they look at puppies or women when they look at babies feet.

  72. speeds says:

    Bank Shot: Do you do that and then just accept the fact that you lose Eberle in 4 years and Hall in 5?
    McDavid will need a $7 million dollar raise in 3 years if he is who everyone thinks he is. Nurse could be looking for $5-6 million.

    Its going to be a serious crunch in 3 years, and doomsday for sure in 4 when Eberle’s contract expires. Then the Oilers will surely have to cut ties with some serious talent.

    I’m not saying it’ll be the end of the world, but it will mean the departure of at least one or two of the 7 top ten picks they currently have to build around.

    The Oilers need to start winning now. Their window to have a ridiculous amount of talented players on the same roster ends with the McDavid ELC.

    If they are going to be a juggernaut at any point, the next 3-4 years are their best opportunity. Afterwards they will be bleeding talent.

    Eberle already makes 6M, when his deal is up, what’s he going to cost? The marginal added money isn’t likely to be crazy, although you never know what exactly happens by the time things need to happen.

    A better question might be: Do you want to commit 7-8M to 29-36 year old Eberle?

  73. JD¡™ says:

    Bag of Pucks: Good find.

    It’s over at ON. Matt and Willis both with some good reads over there lately.

  74. Doug McLachlan says:

    Any idea when we will hear about any further cuts to the TC roster?

  75. Melman says:

    Didn’t see the game, but from the highlights Nilsson looked like he moved well in net

  76. Магия 10 says:

    Doug McLachlan:
    Any idea when we will hear about any further cuts to the TC roster?

    He’s talking about grouping AHL bound players rather than cutting them. Reports from camp skates will be interesting.

  77. Woogie63 says:

    I like how much incrementially better Draisaitl makes the thrid line, verses what he brings to the second line.

    in 25-30 games Slepyshev is going to be a wonderful option for a Hall-McDavid compliment. He is big and strong in the corners and plays with more pace than Driasaitl.

  78. JD¡™ says:

    From Oilers’ site:

    The Oilers are on the ice for practice this morning at Rexall Place.

    The forward lines are:

    Hall-McDavid-Draisaitl
    Pouliot-RNH-Eberle
    Korpikoski-Lander-Yakupov
    Klinkhammer-Letestu-Hendricks
    Gazdic-Miller-Pitlick

    Teddy Purcell is not on the ice for the start of practice.

    Defensive Pairings:

    Ference-Gryba
    Klefbom-Schultz
    Sekera-Fayne
    Reinhart-Nikitin

    Darnell Nurse is not on the ice.

    Goalies:

    Talbot, Nilsson & Scrivens

  79. verdad2.0 says:

    Snowman,

    OEL worth it.
    You know that.
    Everything in life is relative.

  80. wheatnoil says:

    JD¡™:
    From Oilers’ site:

    The Oilers are on the ice for practice this morning at Rexall Place.

    The forward lines are:

    Hall-McDavid-Draisaitl
    Pouliot-RNH-Eberle
    Korpikoski-Lander-Yakupov
    Klinkhammer-Letestu-Hendricks
    Gazdic-Miller-Pitlick

    Teddy Purcell is not on the ice for the start of practice.

    Defensive Pairings:

    Ference-Gryba
    Klefbom-Schultz
    Sekera-Fayne
    Reinhart-Nikitin

    Darnell Nurse is not on the ice.

    Goalies:

    Talbot, Nilsson & Scrivens

    We’ll have to see if Nurse is resting his hand from punching in Flames or if he’s in the AHL group to start.

    Curious about Purcell too… His TOI last night was low, wonder if he was banged up in the 3rd which also contributed to Drai moving up the line-up.

    Gazdic, Miller and Pitlick look like the bubble players for the NHL roster, which means Pakarinen and Slepyshev are fighting to get up from the AHL group. Davidson is also in the AHL group, perhaps with Nurse.

    Interesting…

  81. Snowman says:

    verdad2.0,

    OEL not available.
    You know that.
    Agreed about relativity but still not a good idea to trade Nuge or Drai under his ELC for two more years and team control for 6 or 7 more.

  82. Spoils says:

    what to do with Yak! I worry about him when he is on the 2nd line, I feel bad about him on the 3rd.

  83. Snowman says:

    Sounds like Nurse is in Group B.

  84. Soup Fascist says:

    In McDavid’s post game chat he was asked about Leon joinng the line and he indicated that Purcell may have gotten dinged up in the 3rd.

    Drai on McDavid’s right may have just been a serendipitous event – altough certainly TMac layed the ground work for it earlier in his tenure.

    There was a report last night that Nurse was day-to-day with “upper body injury” (I hope that is knuckles and not grey matter). Was he actually skating with the B group or sitting in the stands with Ruxpin?

  85. russ99 says:

    zatch,

    Agree, I like the idea of three scoring lines as well, but in practice, that’s the concern.

    Regardless of if we deploy three scoring lines vs. defensive bottom six, how we play in the defensive zone is going to determine where we finish.

    I hope McLellan can pull it off, I’d love to watch exciting non-last place hockey this season…

  86. russ99 says:

    Melman,

    Nilsson looked great. Just what we need, a big goalie hungry to break out from lesser leagues that makes our other goalies raise their game.

  87. Numenius says:

    Hall-McDavid-Drai makes me feel like everything’s right in the world.

    I’d guess the Ference-Gryba is a demotion for both. McLellan had some good words for Nikitin and Reinhart seems to have done well, so perhaps Reinhart-Nikitin is the new 3rd pairing hypothesis.

  88. Adam Wu says:

    Even if salary issues mean you need to consider keeping only one of Drai or RNH, such issues will not appear until 3 years from now.

    Even if play time issues mean you need to consider keeping only one of Drai or RNH, such issues are not likely to be an issue until at least 2 years from now. (A rookie breaking in is going to get less ice time than the established top 2 guy who will be one of his mentors, and will likely to more than happy to move to W to get ice time during his developmental years)

    So even it becomes necessary to trade one of Drai or RNH away, what’s the rush?

  89. wheatnoil says:

    Nurse is in the AHL Group, confirmed by Gene Principe (Matt Henderson on Twitter reports).

  90. JD¡™ says:

    wheatnoil: Nurse is in the AHL Group

    Peter: Hey Craig, can you tell Darnell that we’re putting him in the B group today? Thanks.

    Craig: Hey Scott, can you tell Darnell that we’re putting him in the B group today? Thanks.

    Scott: Hey Bill…

  91. Czar says:

    Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers · 2m2 minutes ago
    Just a few stitches (eight to be exact) for @hallsy04 after yesterday’s collision, but the #Oilers winger says he’s fine otherwise.

  92. Sugar Reijo says:

    blainer:
    Lost in all thee hype on how well Dry and CMD are playing was the standout performance from Nilsson in Calgary. He looked an awful lot like Ben Bishop. Scrivens and even Talbot are in a dog fight IMO. Talbot will make the team because of the price paid but Nilsson may well get more starts if he keeps this up.

    Calgary hit a lot of posts in that game but that said I thought Nilsson was impressive too. A couple highway robbery stops and was really moving well.

    Still a long ways to go but Scrivens has got to be hearing footsteps.

  93. Магия 10 says:

    Adam Wu: So even it becomes necessary to trade one of Drai or RNH away, what’s the rush?

    But OEL won’t be available in a few years. Every manager worth their salt will have traded for him by then.

  94. Water Fire says:

    speeds: Eberle already makes 6M, when his deal is up, what’s he going to cost?The marginal added money isn’t likely to be crazy, although you never know what exactly happens by the time things need to happen.

    A better question might be:Do you want to commit 7-8M to 29-36 year old Eberle?

    Strategically there is a problem for the team when guys go UFA at that age, biggest contract right before decline. On the other hand locking up talent early lowers their cap cost through the heart of their career.

    I think I lean toward bridge contracts so that the first long contract carries through to about 32, trade the player with a couple years left to maximize return unless the plan is to retire them, and a team shouldn’t retire many players if they want to stay competitive.

  95. RexLibris says:

    The first in my RE series is up.

    I start with the Canucks and will move on to the Oilers before finishing with the Flames. Hope to have them all up before the start of the season.

    I refuse to use the term Reasonable Expectations as an official title, as far as I’m concerned our host has laid claim to that intellectual property.

    However, I did, with his gracious permission, adopt the alter ego writing tool to help drive the narrative and clear up some finer points in my reasoning.

  96. RexLibris says:

    Kent Wilson retweeted
    luke fox ‏@lukefoxjukebox 47m47 minutes ago

    .@SportsnetSpec on Flames’ Hiller: “He’ll be heavily shopped as Treliving watches for injuries among NHL starters.”

  97. RexLibris says:

    While I’m happy that the Oilers won simultaneous games over the heathen barbarians to the south, I feel that we are being willfully ignorant of a greater danger growing in our midst…

    …they failed to score at least six goals in either game last night.

    This must be rectified, post-haste!

  98. zatch says:

    RexLibris,

    Trading your best goalie is an interesting move. Especially when you are in no way a good possesion team.

  99. Магия 10 says:

    JD¡™: Peter: Hey Craig, can you tell Darnell that we’re putting him in the B group today? Thanks.

    Craig: Hey Scott, can you tell Darnell that we’re putting him in the B group today? Thanks.

    Scott: Hey Bill…

    Joey: Sorry Darnell, but Bill asked me to give you that colour.

  100. RexLibris says:

    zatch:
    RexLibris,

    Trading your best goalie is an interesting move. Especially when you are in no way a good possesion team.

    Yeah, great move for the team morale.

    Nothing says “we’re going to build on last year’s success” like moving out your starter in the first month of the season when no clear replacement has been determined.

  101. RexLibris says:

    Магия 10: Joey: Sorry Darnell, but Bill asked me to give you that colour.

    Even Darnell doesn’t mess with Joey.

    He could hand him a black garbage bag with holes cut for head and arms and that’s your pinney for practice.

  102. zatch says:

    RexLibris,

    There seems to be a peculiar belief that Ramo is both better than Hiller and, indeed, quite a good goalie. He’s neither. I don’t know how that came to be. Was it that Vanouver series? I didn’t watch it because both teams were terrible and the hockey was poor as a result.

  103. Snowman says:

    Flames fans are delusional.

    Gaudreau is better than Mcdavid. Common theme among them.

  104. RexLibris says:

    Snowman:
    Flames fans are delusional.

    Gaudreau is better than Mcdavid. Common theme among them.

    No no no.

    Gaudreau is better than Hall.

    Bennett is expected to be better than McDavid.

    Man, get it straight. 😉

  105. Магия 10 says:

    Snowman:
    Flames fans are delusional.

    Gaudreau is better than Mcdavid. Common theme among them.

    They are also afraid that Treliving will trade Bennett for OEL. Insane they complain.

  106. RexLibris says:

    zatch:
    RexLibris,

    There seems to be a peculiar belief that Ramo is both better than Hiller and, indeed, quite a good goalie. He’s neither. I don’t know how that came to be. Was it that Vanouver series? I didn’t watch it because both teams were terrible and the hockey was poor as a result.

    Ramo had a very strong season last year, but if you look at his sv% history it isn’t generally good, or at least not so much that I’d bank a season on him.

    What I don’t understand, and we have to remember that trading Hiller is just hearsay right now, is why you would move him now.

    It makes no sense. The return isn’t likely going to be that great and it absolutely hamstrings your team.

    It means going into the season with Ramo and Ortio while Gillies recovers in the AHL from a concussion playing alongside Mason MacDonald.

    That is a glut of borderline players with no true starter among them and your best hope out with a notoriously difficult injury to rehab.

    Burke has always espoused building from the back out, and he has done that with the blueline, but cutting out our starter at this stage and with the team in this position, makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever.

  107. RexLibris says:

    Магия 10: They are also afraid that Treliving will trade Bennett for OEL. Insane they complain.

    Sather would have found a way to trade Bennett for Ekman-Larsson.

  108. Drew says:

    Adam Wu:
    Even if salary issues mean you need to consider keeping only one of Drai or RNH, such issues will not appear until 3 years from now.

    Even if play time issues mean you need to consider keeping only one of Drai or RNH, such issues are not likely to be an issue until at least 2 years from now. (A rookie breaking in is going to get less ice time than the established top 2 guy who will be one of his mentors, and will likely to more than happy to move to W to get ice time during his developmental years)

    So even it becomes necessary to trade one of Drai or RNH away, what’s the rush?

    This again and again. Make the choice just before you have to and when you have more/better information than the market.

  109. Barcs says:

    RexLibris:
    The first in my RE series is up.

    I start with the Canucks and will move on to the Oilers before finishing with the Flames. Hope to have them all up before the start of the season.

    I refuse to use the term Reasonable Expectations as an official title, as far as I’m concerned our host has laid claim to that intellectual property.

    However, I did, with his gracious permission, adopt the alter ego writing tool to help drive the narrative and clear up some finer points in my reasoning.

    Nice article, thanks Rex. That ‘dignity’ joke killed me.

    The Canucks can kick rocks, but I feel bad for the Sedins. Two class-acts whose chance at a Stanley seems to have disappeared.

    Wonder who gets the bump to their 2nd line if Higgins is out for a while? (in a walking boot today after blocking a shot last night, per Twitter).

  110. JD¡™ says:

    RexLibris: Sather would have rigged a backgammon game between the owners to win Ekman-Larsson.

    Fixed

  111. godot10 says:

    If Draisaitl can play both centre and wing, (a bigger, stronger, faster Pavelski), then Nugent-Hopkins, McDavid, and Draisaitl will probably be the forward core going forward that one pays.

    Hall, Eberle, and Yakupov will be part of that if their contract demands are reasonable when their deals come up for renegotiation. One can probably pay one of them. And that would give the team two pairs.

    The only way that doesn’t happen is if Nugent-Hopkins and McDavid cannot co-exist as a 1A and a 1B.

  112. rickithebear says:

    RexLibris: .@SportsnetSpec on Flames’ Hiller: “He’ll be heavily shopped as Treliving watches for injuries among NHL starters.”

    HSCA/60 team
    #30 TOR 13.7
    #27 EDNM 12.6
    #25 CGY 11.6

    #14 NYR 10.6
    #15 TBL 10.7
    #15 MTL 10.7
    #15 CBJ 10.7

    .8330 is the average high chance shot save%

    Goalies with .8600+ HCS save% in each of last 2 season.
    one – Talbot .8687; .8617

    Goalies with .8500+ HCS save% in each of last 2 seasons
    None

    Goalies with .8400+ HCS save% in each of last 2 seasons
    Three
    Price .8477; .8650
    Crawford .8742; .8442
    Halak .8421; 8671

    Goalies with .8330+ HCS save% in each of last 2 seasons
    Five
    Holtby .8686; .8387
    Varlamov .8583; .8346
    Hiller .8373; .8531
    Bernier .8364; .8445
    Reimer .8349; .8379

    One of the 5 worst HCSA team and they want to get rid of one of the 9 most consistent HCS save% goalies in the game .

  113. RexLibris says:

    JD¡™: Fixed

    Nah, that was Pocklington.

    The way he did business made Sather look like a girl scout troop selling cookies at the Safeway.

  114. RexLibris says:

    Barcs: Nice article, thanks Rex. That ‘dignity’ joke killed me.

    The Canucks can kick rocks, but I feel bad for the Sedins. Two class-acts whose chance at a Stanley seems to have disappeared.

    Wonder who gets the bump to their 2nd line if Higgins is out for a while?(in a walking boot today after blocking a shot last night, per Twitter).

    Thanks.

    I couldn’t resist the dignity dig. That organization…wow, what a group.

    I was surprised by the numbers that came up. I know I’m not dealing with guarantees here, but still, I had to triple check my numbers because it seemed really unusual.

    I’ll be running updates at the 1/3rd and 2/3rd mark of the season to keep things up to date.

  115. Woodguy says:

    All,

    There is a fallacy that you can’t have Nuge-CMD-Dry all on the same team when they all get paid.

    This is incorrect.

    Consider this:

    Here are the last 8 Stanley Cup Champions.

    The percentage listed next to the team was the percentage of the cap that their top 5 cap hits took up.

    Looks like SC Champs having 5 players take up half the cap is the norm.

    08 DET: 55%
    09 PIT: 49%
    10 CHI: 46%
    11 BOS: 44%
    12 LA: 44%
    13 CHI: 51%
    14 LA: 49%
    15 CHI 51%

    Given Nuge’s excellent long term deal I see no problem getting the top 5 Oiler cap hit into 50% of the cap.

    You need to avoid the trap of overpaying a goalie.

    I can see CMD-Nuge-Drai-Hall-Eberle all taking up 50% or even well under.

    Even If the cap is $75MM in 3 years (its $71.4 today, but looking to go down next year) and you pay McDavid $10/yr you get:

    CMD $10
    Nuge $6
    Hall $6
    Eberle $6
    DrySaddle $6

    That’s only $34MM on a $75MM cap. (45.3%)

    Still leaves room for an expensive Dman.

    Easy Peasy and that assumes you give DrySaddle $6MM.

  116. Woodguy says:

    Please note that I got the info for my last post from this tweet:

    Adam Gretz ‏@AGretz Apr 7

    PIT’s top-5 cap hits take up 51% of their cap space.

    08 DET: 55%
    09 PIT: 49%
    10 CHI: 46%
    11 BOS: 44%
    12 LA: 44%
    13 CHI: 51%
    14 LA: 49%

    His info checks out.

  117. LMHF#1 says:

    I know it was on the powerplay, but I’m wondering if there’s a way to have a sheltered Yakupov-McDavid-Draisaitl line.

    It might require some deck chairs being maneuvered to get Hall a linemate or two he can drag around, but there is still time and the waiver wire before the season starts.

  118. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy,

    This is way, way ahead, but what if McDavid declines the Ovechkin type offer and negotiates something more akin to what Crosby did when he took less money so that the team could better fill out a roster?

    The kid is humble and he’s coming along into a pay scale where Hall set the line in the sand at $6 million. He’ll also be keenly aware of what happens to teams that have an unbalanced roster due to salary cap issues.

    I’m not saying he will or that we should bank on it (no pun intended), but I think we need to keep a very open mind as to the possibilities that lie ahead.

    McDavid and Draisaitl both appear to be quite humble, team-first players with the maturity to recognize that it takes more than a single player to win a championship and that at the end of your career you are judged not by how much you made, but by how much you won.

    Damn, this is some tasty kool-aid, by the way. 🙂

  119. speeds says:

    Woodguy:

    Still leaves room for an expensive Dman.

    We’ll see what the Oilers do in that regard, but I’m wondering if looking at the cap situation means EDM would avoid a Seabrook signing (although there are/were rumors a few days ago that he might sign long term with CHI fairly soon)

  120. JD¡™ says:

    RexLibris: Nah, that was Pocklington.

    I know, but it’s fun to imagine a case of Cohibas landing in Slat’s back yard for rigging the game.

  121. RMGS says:

    It simply cannot be overstated how important having elite, proven coaching will be to this team:

    http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=4&id=835692

  122. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    Woodguy:
    All,

    There is a fallacy that you can’t have Nuge-CMD-Dry all on the same team when they all get paid.

    This is incorrect.

    Consider this:

    Here are the last 8 Stanley Cup Champions.

    The percentage listed next to the team was the percentage of the cap that their top 5 cap hits took up.

    Looks like SC Champs having 5 players take up half the cap is the norm.

    08 DET: 55%
    09 PIT: 49%
    10 CHI: 46%
    11 BOS: 44%
    12 LA: 44%
    13 CHI: 51%
    14 LA: 49%
    15 CHI 51%

    Given Nuge’s excellent long term deal I see no problem getting the top 5 Oiler cap hit into 50% of the cap.

    You need to avoid the trap of overpaying a goalie.

    I can see CMD-Nuge-Drai-Hall-Eberle all taking up 50% or even well under.

    Even If the cap is $75MM in 3 years (its $71.4 today, but looking to go down next year) and you pay McDavid $10/yr you get:

    CMD $10
    Nuge $6
    Hall $6
    Eberle $6
    DrySaddle $6

    That’s only $34MM on a $75MM cap. (45.3%)

    Still leaves room for an expensive Dman.

    Easy Peasy and that assumes you give DrySaddle $6MM.

    Sure. Of course that means Yak is either gone or cheap. I’m a fan of the kid, but that’s a reasonable assumption at this point.

    Also we will already have Sekera at $5.5 and Klef at $4.1.

    You are right though, the key is to have a combined goaltending cap hit under $6million, preferably under $5million.

  123. wheatnoil says:

    http://flamesnation.ca/2015/1/28/on-enforcers-depression-and-risk-factors

    Without intending to re-open the MMA discussion of yesterday, this is an excellent article from a few months ago by Kent Wilson over at Flames Nation in regards to suicide and depression in former NHL enforcers. It’s a great read, especially in light of the recent tragedy.

  124. Doug McLachlan says:

    We are about to have 3 pre-season games coming up. TMac has indicated that Talbot, Scrivens and Nillssen will each get one game to work out the top two debate questions for Chia and company.

    How many of team B (the AHLers) should we expect to see? Is it reasonable to expect Nurse in two or more of those three (assuming he’s good to go health wise)?

  125. frjohnk says:

    RexLibris,

    Wow, that must have taken a lot a time.

    Realy like it. Great job.

  126. JD¡™ says:

    Doug McLachlan: Is it reasonable to expect Nurse in two or more of those three (assuming he’s good to go health wise)?

    It depends on how many days Nikitin needs to rest after last night… Love a good meme – it’s a meme, right Niki?

    They might keep a few for the first game, but McL talked about getting down close to the roster pretty quickly. Instilling a philosophy that’s 180 degrees from past years, as well as new systems should mean they want the big club together asap.

  127. Tire Fire says:

    RMGS:
    It simply cannot be overstated how important having elite, proven coaching will be to this team:

    Excellent news. In that case:
    Proven, elite-level coaching will allow the Oilers players to cure syphilis and cancer, poverty and racism.

  128. wheatnoil says:

    Doug McLachlan:
    We are about to have 3 pre-season games coming up. TMac has indicated that Talbot, Scrivens and Nillssen will each get one game to work out the top two debate questions for Chia and company.

    How many of team B (the AHLers) should we expect to see? Is it reasonable to expect Nurse in two or more of those three (assuming he’s good to go health wise)?

    I think we’re going to see all the players of Team B at least once. They have 6pm game Friday and a 4pm game Saturday… that’s an awfully quick turn-around including travel. I doubt there will be many players who play both games.

    Edit: McLellan adds in his interview that he will pull from both groups and combine them for Wednesday’s game.

  129. Truth says:

    Ended up going to the game in Edmonton yesterday. Is the Calgary game archived online somewhere? Thanks in advance.

  130. rickithebear says:

    Tire Fire: this team:

    Excellent news. In that case:
    Proven, elite-level coaching will allow the Oilers players to cure syphilis and cancer, poverty and racism.

    Being one of the 44% of albertan’s that are sepratisits.
    I blame CANADA!

  131. Магия 10 says:

    wheatnoil:
    http://flamesnation.ca/2015/1/28/on-enforcers-depression-and-risk-factors

    Without intending to re-open the MMA discussion of yesterday, this is an excellent article from a few months ago by Kent Wilson over at Flames Nation in regards to suicide and depression in former NHL enforcers. It’s a great read, especially in light of the recent tragedy.

    A lot of what is mentioned is beyond the concussions. Whether they deter aggression or not, team members report being able to play better knowing these guys are on the bench (sin eaters never got paid like these guys). Don’t see fighting leaving the game, but won’t miss having guys who only have a job to be an enforcer (parity, speed, and skill seem to be eliminating it). Not good for the game and apparently not a good role to carry.

  132. JD¡™ says:

    RMGS:
    It simply cannot be overstated how important having elite, proven coaching will be to this team:

    http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=4&id=835692

    McL, McD – I’m lovin’ it!

  133. JD¡™ says:

    Bag of Pucks: Good find. Now the background image on my phone.

    Better shot: http://i.imgur.com/iOTmHjC.jpg

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