G1 2015-16: OILERS AT BLUES

My Grandma cheered for the Leafs. I can still remember her voice as she yelled at Johnny Bower or Mike Palmateer (“get back in your net!”) and those Leafs usually responded. The 1960’s were a good time for the English in Canada (Toronto won in 1962, 1963, 1964 and 1967) although the Habs ran over everyone in the other years not named 1961. She used to dry the dishes during the game, but could never keep the production line in order—going from the kitchen to the living room several times during each period. Often, there would be dry plates and spoons all over the house with multiple tea towels beside them. She loved the hockey and my family gifted it to me on nights just like the one we’re about to enjoy.

The dawn of the 1970s brought the big, bad Bruins and that was my team. I was a Leafs fan from birth, but the fracture created by the Frank Mahovlich trade was enough to wash away decades of family devotion and I was free to cheer for Bobby Orr and Boston. They were fabulous in the 1970s, just impossible to overcome because of an offense that 1980s Oilers’ fans could have related to for its power. I think that era, the Orr era, is the time in my life the game hooked me and it’s never let go. Thank you, Grandma. What a gift you gave me.

I missed you, hockey. Welcome home.

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McDavid changed everything. The Oilers on-the-job management training was trashed, their entry-level coaching model hit the garbage barge and the rebuild turned into a genuine attempt to improve the parent roster.

McDavid changed everything. Peter Chiarelli joined the band, Todd McLellan too and they tried to patch up an addled roster with (sort of) veterans Cam Talbot, Andrej Sekera and Mark Letestu. There was too much to do in one summer and the bad contracts run out in 2016 (save for Andrew Ference, who will be bought out) and we are here.

The new men come from various sources:

  • Trades: G Cam Talbot, G Anders Nilsson, D Griffin Reinhart, D Eric Gryba, L Lauri Korpikoski
  • Free Agency: D Andrej Sekera, C Mark Letestu
  • Draft and Development: D Brandon Davidson
  • The Draft: C Connor McDavid, R Anton Slepyshev

AND SO IT BEGINS…..

OILERS OC 5

I’m more confident in the goaltending than most, it’s probably the big disconnect on the blog currently. There’s good reason to be worried—Edmonton doesn’t have an established starter or backup—but the bet (imo) can go sideways without flushing the season (you can always trade for a goalie, and I think Chiarelli will if he needs to do it). I think Talbot has this, he’ll be a significant upgrade. We worry because of the past and that’s human. All of the smart people tell me the dice have no memory and for Oilers fans two wobbly goalie seasons can’t be followed by a third. Peter Chiarelli can’t let that happen again. Full stop.

The greater concern for me is defense and Edmonton’s top three (Sekera, Fayne, Klefbom) aren’t strong enough to support the remaining five blue. I keep hoping Edmonton can return to the olden days at the turn of the century, when they could cobble together four actual defensemen (Janne Niinimaa, Jason Smith, Eric Brewer, Steve Staios in 2002-03, or until the deadline). Edmonton needs Schultz or Reinhart (or Nurse) to arrive in a helluva hurry, or they need to make a trade.

In Peter Chiarelli’s first Boston summer, he traded for Paul Mara and the organization signed Zdeno Chara, effectively changing the blue in two deals. Chiarelli didn’t stop there, in fact he was more active during the season:

  • February 10, 2007: Bruins trade D Brad Stuart and F Wayne Primeau to the Calgary Flames for D Andrew Ference and F Chuck Kobasew.Chiarelli: “It became evident that when I wasn’t having success signing Brad that I was going to have to trade Brad. Part of what we have to do is preserve the assets of players that are unrestricted. Chuck is 24 and Andrew is 27. They add some youth and energy, which we want to add to this team.”
  • February 27, 2007: Bruins trade D Paul Mara to the NY Rangers for D Aaron Ward.
  • February 27, 2007: Bruins trade D Brad Boyes to St. Louis for D Dennis Wideman.
  • Chiarelli on the February trades: “Part of the rationale in the [Brad Stuart] deal and these two deals was to have players who can help us now, in the short term and the mid term. I feel we have the depth, both in unsigned draft choices and in Providence. For example, David Krejci came up, and game to game, he played better. So that’s just the glimpse of the depth we have.”

I think we could see something similar in the coming season. Chiarelli has Sekera, Klefbom and Fayne signed/under control, but Justin Schultz has another RFA summer coming. He could be in the “Brad Stuart” window above, and Chiarelli may have a candidate on the roster to serve in the Brad Boyes role above, too. While I’m at it, allow me to mention that an Eric Gryba extension may mean they’ll cash Mark Fayne for a more mobile RH option. I’d also like to see a Klefbom—Sekera 10-game run.

And then we have the youngsters Reinhart and Nurse. Among the three youngsters (Klefbom, too) I don’t think we’re going to see a Niinimaa, we’re looking at three Brewers (no 40-point seasons I can see). The defense is in a period of transition, I think we’ll see changes before spring that include outside additions.

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ONE YEAR AGO!

The game day thread is here, we were talking about Petry and counting down to the trade:

Darren Dreger “The Edmonton Oilers are weak up the middle of the ice and we know that Craig MacTavish is looking for a center. Not to suggest that they’re shopping (Petry) … It’s not a perfect scenario to have an 18-year-old in Leon Draisaitl as your second line center … But (Petry’s) a piece of the puzzle they might use if there is a center who fits with their need.” Source

OPENING NIGHT LINEUP, 2014-15

  • G Ben Scrivens
  • D1 Brad Hunt—Justin Schultz
  • D2 Andrew Ference—Jeff Petry
  • D3 Nikita Nikitin—Mark Fayne
  • L1 Taylor Hall—Ryan Nugent-Hopkins—Jordan Eberle
  • L2 David Perron—Mark Arcobello—Teddy Purcell
  • L3 Benoit Pouliot—Leon Draisaitl—Nail Yakupov
  • L4: Matt Hendricks—Boyd Gordon—Jesse Joensuu
  • Source

If you read the comments in the GDT, the real impact of the goaltending screams from the pages and pages of posters in varying degrees of rage. That GDT is a very good reflection of the moment a year ago when fans realized it was happening again, the call was coming from inside the house.

I believe Cam Talbot is an excellent bet, and Anders Nilsson is a fascinating curio. Ben Scrivens is also available via recall and Laurent Brossoit continues to matriculate. If all else fails, I expect a trade. Chiarelli and McLellan didn’t come here for the forensics.

NHLE UPDATE

Using Rob’s updated numbers, here are some projections from the Oilers prospect list (per 82GP)

  1. Connor McDavid 25-44-69
  2. Leon Draisaitl 13-24-37
  3. Anton Slepyshev 18-11-29
  4. Iiro Pakarinen 17-11-28
  5. Darnell Nurse 8-17-25
  6. Bogdan Yakimov 8-11-19
  7. Griffin Reinhart 5-10-15

Hmm. Interesting. The gap between Leon and Anton S. is closer here (and dammit all anyway Pakarinen’s injury was a real shame). Nurse remains a better offensive prospect from the blue than Reinhart, but we knew that much going in.

The Bakersfield Condors are a very good AHL team. There’s enough young talent down there to capture our attention all season long. Here’s my top 40 list with Condors players underlined:

  1. C Connor McDavid 
  2. C Leon Draisaitl
  3. D Darnell Nurse 
  4. D Griffin Reinhart
  5. C Bogdan Yakimov
  6. W Iiro Pakarinen
  7. C Kyle Platzer
  8. C-R Greg Chase
  9. L Anton Slepyshev
  10. D Ethan Bear
  11. G Laurent Brossoit
  12. D Joey Laleggia
  13. D Dillon Simpson
  14. G Eetu Laurikainen
  15. R Andrew Miller
  16. D Jordan Oesterle
  17. D Caleb Jones
  18. C Jujhar Khaira
  19. R Tyler Pitlick
  20. D William Lagesson
  • Goal: Ben Scrivens, Laurent Brossoit, Eetu Laurikainen(R)
  • Left Defense: Darnell Nurse, Brad Hunt, David Musil, Nick Pageau
  • Right Defense: Joey Laleggia, Nikita Nikitin, Jordan Oesterle, Martin Gernat
  • Center: Leon Draisaitl, Bogdan Yakimov, Phil McRae, Jujhar Khaira
  • Left Wing: Ryan Hamilton, Iiro Pakarinen, Braden Christoffer, Mitch Moroz, Kale Kessy, Daniil Zharkov
  • Right Wing: Andrew Miller, Tyler Pitlick, Matt Ford, Kyle Platzer, Josh Winquist

Condors play tomorrow night, I’ll have a GDT up around 5pm and hopefully the lines and pairings. Honestly, there isn’t a whole lot to follow in the CHL or USHL/college/Europe, so I’ll be paying close attention to the flight of the Condors.

WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN YOU’RE EXPECTING

Jacob Trouba took a long shot from just past center and Devan Dubnyk folded like a cheap suit. You could feel it coming on, the Oilers had been in full chaos mode for hours. Fast forward 365 days, and Ben Scrivens lost in a fog behind the net and in no man’s land.

Make it stop. I can accept the Oilers losing tonight, the St. Louis Blues are a tough team and Ken Hitchcock delights in watching the Oil bleed all over the ice. As a fan, what I’m looking for is simple competence—the correct roster, less running around chasing the puck, less tomfoolery in the neutral zone and more give a care on the backchecks and breakouts. And for the love of baby Jesus, a good goaltending effort.

  • Darryl Sutter: “The big thing in today’s game is you have to be able forecheck and backcheck, and you have to have the puck. You can’t give the puck up. We don’t play in our zone, so there’s not much defending.  I’ve coached in three decades now and this stuff where they said Marian had to play in Jacques’s system is a bunch of bull-crap. The game’s changed. They think there’s defending in today’s game. Nah, it’s how much you have the puck. Teams that play around in their own zone think they’re defending but they’re generally getting scored on or taking face-offs and they need a goalie to stand on his head if that’s the way they play.”

 

Godspeed, Edmonton Oilers. We’re with you all the way, just show us a sign, some sign, that we are moving to a better day. Destination unknown? I’m all about it. We need to leave this place we’re in, drive away from the last chance Texaco and leave it in the distance. Forever.

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LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy show as you can imagine, there’s a lot happening today. 10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Grant McCagg, McKeens Head Scout. The man who scouted for the Habs during the Gainey era will join us to talk about 2015’s crop and those who will make their NHL debut. Plus we’ll look at the 2016 crop of prospects in early days.
  • Rob Vollman, ESPN. We dig deep on this version of the Oilers, and discuss the importance of Hall and his cluster entering their prime. We’ll also talk about McDavid and his possible impact as a rookie.
  • Darcy McLeod, Because Oilers. We’ll talk about Cam Talbot and Anders Nilsson, plus the additions of Sekera, Reinhart and Gryba. I’ll ask Darcy for a ‘line in the sand’ for Edmonton this season.
  • Corey Graham, TSN1260. The Oil Kings have been heart attack central so far this season, we’ll talk about the goalie tandem and where the goals will come from.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. This is the day.

 

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  1. jp says:

    G Money:
    That was a beauty sequence from Yak, until the pass to … nowhere?Should someone have been there?

    The Blue should NOT have been there. He was just trying to put it back to the point, no?

    He’s looked good overall, but he can’t be making those types of turnovers with any regularity.

  2. Ryan says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    They may not win, but I alreadyfeel better in that I don’t KNOW they will lose

    Hey. The Oilers are playing hockey. Music.

  3. G Money says:

    stephen sheps: Sekera at the point maybe?

    Yeah, that’s where it appeared to be going, but it seemed like Yak was expecting someone else to be available, and then just bobbled the pass away.

  4. pocession charge says:

    G Money:
    That was a beauty sequence from Yak, until the pass to … nowhere?Should someone have been there?

    That was strange. Ugly giveaway. I’d like to to see them put Yak on Nuge’s line for the rest of the game. Purcell is really dragging that line down.

  5. Kris11 says:

    Bookie, have you added umlauts?

  6. G Money says:

    Is it my imagination, or are the Oilers a lot more effective at getting their sticks in passing lanes?

    I didn’t see that much last year (except against the Oilers).

    Is that one of those ‘details’ TMc keeps talking about?

  7. G Money says:

    Fark.

    That was a damn good sequence by the Blues.

  8. Ryan says:

    Ouch.

  9. Dr. Taboggan says:

    How good is Shattenkirk on the offensive blueline?

  10. Professor Q says:

    McDavid’s friends and enemies scoring before he does.

    Definitely a bust, according to our Eastern Media.

  11. böök¡je says:

    Kris11,

    I had a lot of extra ones lying around and when it was clear that Päjäärvi wasn’t coming here, I just started using them.

  12. B S says:

    Bullshit!

  13. LMHF#1 says:

    Ted Purcell is where the play goes to die.

    Hurry back Mr. Eberle.

  14. Ryan says:

    What’s the over/under on Slepy getting sent down after this game?

  15. böök¡je says:

    G Money:
    Is it my imagination, or are the Oilers a lot more effective at getting their sticks in passing lanes?

    I didn’t see that much last year (except against the Oilers).

    Is that one of those ‘details’ TMc keeps talking about?

    I noticed it too.

  16. fuzzy muppet says:

    Slepyshev seems very out of place on that top line. He’s been invisible..well until this penalty

  17. böök¡je says:

    Strangely slow board tonight – just over 600 comments. Was higher on exhibition games.

  18. BONVIE says:

    Purcell doesn’t know where a winger needs to be when a puck Is reversed by the D, this guy is a veteran he needs to know these things. We can’t make 6 weeks without Eberle on that line.

  19. Kris11 says:

    Yeah, Sleppy might go down soon. I would guess. Drai up.

  20. B S says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    He was interfered with on that play. I can’t believe he was penalized for that.

  21. dangilitis says:

    Welcome back Devan Dubnyk

  22. Receptor Antagonist says:

    böök¡je:
    Strangely slow board tonight – just over 600 comments. Was higher on exhibition games.

    People are actually watching the game? lol

  23. dangilitis says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    Slepyshev seems very out of place on that top line.He’s been invisible..well until this penalty

    He’s had a few nice rushes but yes. Clear evidence that preseason performance needs to be taken with grain of salt.

  24. dangilitis says:

    Kris11:
    Yeah, Sleppy might go down soon. I would guess. Drai up.

    Yak may be a candidate for a promotion.

  25. G Money says:

    Steen all over McD who didnt have the puck? Isnt that … oh I dont know … interference?

  26. Zelepukin says:

    LMHF#1:
    Ted Purcell is where the play goes to die.

    Hurry back Mr. Eberle.

  27. BONVIE says:

    Right now for the rest of this period I’d be moving Yakapov to play with the Nuge.

  28. Alsker says:

    Yaks best Jultz impersonation

  29. zatch says:

    On the one hand, this team still has a LOT of issues.

    On the other hand, they’re playing a really good team pretty close, and Talbot has impressed.

    Side note, if that’s the 4th STL is rolling all year, they won’t make it out of the first round again. Garbage.

  30. kinger_OIL says:

    dangilitis,

    Yeah – I don’t get why Yak has barely more time than Gadzic, while sheppy way up there…

    – set Yak free

  31. B S says:

    G Money,

    Clearly you weren’t told but McD is an Oiler. Interference doesn’t count if it’s against an Oiler. noticed this a lot pretty much every season.

  32. Ryan says:

    Receptor Antagonist: People are actually watching the game? lol

    Yeah, has everyone gone to Twitter?

    The Oilers lose, but they played hockey.

  33. Picturesque says:

    böök¡je:
    Strangely slow board tonight – just over 600 comments. Was higher on exhibition games.

    Gonna reach 1000 when Oilers come back to win it!

  34. LMHF#1 says:

    Slepyshev much better in the third back with McDavid and Hall.

    Reinhart with 2 penalties and some giveaways. Mixed in with some good play. Looks okay because the group as a whole is still pretty bad at moving the puck.

  35. pocession charge says:

    Yakupov stole the puck then was clearly tripped. No call.

  36. Professor Q says:

    I don’t care that they’re losing, that much.

    I like how they’re playing.

  37. G Money says:

    Just love Yak the forechecking demon. His quick acceleration and superb hand-eye coordination are giving even the Blues fits.

  38. Lowetide says:

    I haven’t seen the entire game but Talbot appears to be a real goalie. I understand Slepyshev was not good early but he’s been quite noticeable in the time I’ve watched.

  39. G Money says:

    B S,

    I know, but I thought I’d let somebody else point it out for a change!

  40. russ99 says:

    We’re only sending two men in on the break too often. Hard to get shots from the magic box that way.

  41. LMHF#1 says:

    Lowetide:
    I haven’t seen the entire game but Talbot appears to be a real goalie. I understand Slepyshev was not good early but he’s been quite noticeable in the time I’ve watched.

    Yes x2

  42. G Money says:

    Lowetide,

    After the penalty, he’s had a major fire lit under him.

  43. Professor Q says:

    Yak was totally tripped there.

  44. pocession charge says:

    Fuck.

  45. Lucinius says:

    Whelp. 0-1 to start the season. Better team won, but the Oilers did a decent job of making it a hockey game.

  46. LMHF#1 says:

    Wrong pass Connor. Oops.

    Why in hell was Purcell out there??? He was terrible all night.

    I liked a lot of how they played, but they didn’t get to the middle of the ice in the offensive zone at all.

  47. fuzzy muppet says:

    Can someone explain why Purcell is on the ice in the last minute?

  48. Lowetide says:

    Магия 10: It*s the LT & WG boycott.

    No, sorry boys I had an MC job and just got home in time to see the last maybe 10 minutes. Will watch though, seemed like a lot of good things based on what I’m reading.

  49. dangilitis says:

    I can’t tell anymore if I’m just used to this but I was encouraged by the game as a whole. Am I deluding myself

  50. G Money says:

    I have no issues with this game.

    The Blues at home are a beast for anybody.

    The Oilers were NOT outclassed, and the goaltending was top notch.

    Cannot reasonably ask for more.

  51. BONVIE says:

    Lowetide:
    I haven’t seen the entire game but Talbot appears to be a real goalie. I understand Slepyshev was not good early but he’s been quite noticeable in the time I’ve watched.

    I think he’s been ok!! Definitely better than Purcell, and It looks like Poulliot lost ice time halfway through the 3rd, after the goal against.

  52. Sugar Reijo says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    Can someone explain why Purcell is on the ice in the last minute?

    Hypnosis?

  53. pocession charge says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    Can someone explain why Purcell is on the ice in the last minute?

    No. He was dreadful tonight. Should have been on the bench.

  54. Zelepukin says:

    LMHF#1:
    Wrong pass Connor. Oops.

    Why in hell was Purcell out there??? He was terrible all night.

    I liked a lot of how they played, but they didn’t get to the middle of the ice in the offensive zone at all.

    Ya was disconcerting.

    From what I saw of Reinhart, man he is slow laterally and has a real pylon quality to him when handling the puck.

  55. russ99 says:

    Good effort all around, but we had very few shots that a quality goalie would have trouble stopping.

    Something to build on, looks like McLellan has made real progress.

  56. John Chambers says:

    If they build off games like this they’ll be alright. Could be a 2 win in their first 10 kind of start with lots of moral victories.

  57. blainer says:

    If we want to win games we have to Fucking score… We finally get goaltending.. Get to work on that PP… pronto..

  58. G Money says:

    My wife is asking why it is that the Oilers lost and I wasn’t swearing at the TV.

    THAT’S a good sign!

  59. gogliano says:

    Talbot had a great game and he is probably the most important question mark going into this season.

    Blues in St. Louis is a tough ask, thought the Oilers generally played well. Eberle was missed.

  60. Nostradumbass says:

    Oilers saved their best hockey for the final 6 minutes but essentially had little in terms of offensive chances before that

    I know Klefbom had some rust tonight but man does seem like he’s at a different level athletically then the rest of our Dcorp

  61. Ryan says:

    G Money:
    I have no issues with this game.

    The Blues at home are a beast for anybody.

    The Oilers were NOT outclassed, and the goaltending was top notch.

    Cannot reasonably ask for more.

    Yes, in other terms, the Oilers played hockey.

    Boys, have a beer and another.

  62. Professor Q says:

    Oh, come on guys. Purcell was the only one working and making passes. Lay off him.

  63. B S says:

    G Money,

    I looked at it Renney’s last season but the Penalties for vs penalties against were all over the place (high some games low many other games) for the first half of the season, but sometime after christmas the Oil basically never get a PP again.

  64. Snowman says:

    Hall and McDavid are not a thing yet. Poulliot looked better with him.

  65. blainer says:

    Zelepukin: Ya was disconcerting.

    From what I saw of Reinhart, man he is slow laterally and has a real pylon quality to him when handling the puck.

    Really liked his game tonight.. made a few mistakes but remember he is a rookie..

  66. LadiesloveSmid says:

    I don’t know why we’re still in a ‘put the whistles away’ league. Call something for Gord’s sake.

    That empty net might have been the most accurate bouncing puck, one hand on the stick, slapping of the puck from a team’s own blue line that I’ve ever seen.

    Saw Talbot, Yakupov, Reinhart, Slepyshev, Gazdic good tonight. Sekera improved as it went on.

    Yakupov, 59% ES CF with 0% OZS

  67. LMHF#1 says:

    blainer:
    If we want to win games we have to Fucking score… We finally get goaltending.. Get to work on that PP… pronto..

    Nah, it was the transition game – non-existent. Hardly any productive passes from the D.

  68. LMHF#1 says:

    Professor Q:
    Oh, come on guys. Purcell was the only one working and making passes. Lay off him.

    You made me laugh.

  69. Lucinius says:

    I think the most important thing to take away from the game was that the Oilers could have won it. Sure, the Blues were the better team, but the Oilers weren’t out of it. Largely because Talbot didn’t act like an Oiler goalie and let in 2+ bad goals, but instead was steady and good the entire night.

    He could have had the Tarasenko goal.. but, imo, 1v1 the shooter always has the advantage, and someone like Tarasenko will bury that more often than not.

  70. Oil2Oilers says:

    Reinhart was ++
    Yakimov was +
    Sekara was +
    Talbot was ++

    The rest weren’t bad I don’t have a goat for the game other than the refs allowing dead puck era tactics. They are a discredit to the game

  71. B S says:

    blainer,

    umm, wasn’t the PP rocking 50%? If Nuge can just make the other team score on themselves every game the Oilers will be fine.

  72. BONVIE says:

    Zelepukin: Ya was disconcerting.

    From what I saw of Reinhart, man he is slow laterally and has a real pylon quality to him when handling the puck.

    Interesting that’s what you noticed about Rheinhart after he shut down the blues offence and cycle all night!

  73. böök¡je says:

    [EeyoreVoice] Well, that just about does it now. I hope the coach they hire next year and the next 1st round draft pick finally turn this thing around. It’s gonna be a longgg year playing out the rest of the season…[/EeyoreVoice]

  74. pocession charge says:

    Professor Q:
    Oh, come on guys. Purcell was the only one working and making passes. Lay off him.

    Okay, you got us Professor Sarcasm.

  75. Woodguy says:

    I don’t know what Hall’s issue is but was not good at all.

    Numbers back that up too:

    Player CF%
    Mark Letestu 66.67
    Luke Gazdic 64.29
    Anton Slepyshev 58.82
    Nail Yakupov 58.82
    Matt Hendricks 55
    Lauri Korpikoski 50
    Anton Lander 47.37
    Connor McDavid 44
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 43.33
    Benoit Pouliot 41.38
    Taylor Hall 37.04
    Teddy Purcell 33.33

    Eric Gryba 55.17
    Griffin Reinhart 54.29
    Mark Fayne 52.17
    Andrej Sekera 47.83
    Oscar Klefbom 39.39
    Justin Schultz 39.39

  76. stephen sheps says:

    Indeed Talbot was excellent. Lots of little things to like about the game tonight. Yak was a demon on the forecheck, and other than one errant pass looked like a completely different (happy, engaged) player. Gazdic was (*gasP) good. Hendy was his usual reliable self. Reinhart/Gryba were solid to very good at cycle breaking and both passed the puck better than I expected.

    They didn’t look like an AHL squad and they didn’t seem to crumple after allowing goals or chances against. This was a good loss, a loss they can learn from and build from.

    Good coaching really makes such a difference.

    Excited for Saturday night in Nashville (and can’t believe I get to see the team before most of you do… It shouldn’t be that way, and yet)

  77. fuzzy muppet says:

    John Chambers,

    Moral victories means meaningless games by (American) thanksgiving….as usual.

    I already feel better about the goaltending.

    What I wouldnt give to see a game that means something after the first month……

  78. Sugar Reijo says:

    That McDavid interview was awesome. You can tell he absolutely HATES to lose.

  79. Soup Fascist says:

    If Geno would have dropped a pun on Connor I am guessing McD would have choked Principe out. Kid does NOT like to lose.

    This is a very good thing.

  80. LMHF#1 says:

    “Teddy Purcell 33.33”

    Matches the eye for sure.

    Even coughed the puck up before the EN goal. Yuck.

  81. Yak Efron says:

    Did the league get rid of the interference penalty? Didnt hear anything about that

  82. Lucinius says:

    Yak only really had the one bad play (the turn over that led to the Brodziak post). Liked that line all game. Purcell had some good moments, some bad moments. Pouliot did not look like the Pouliot of last year.

    Sekera had some cringe-worthy moments, as did Fayne, Schultz and Reinhart. Klefbom had some Jultz moments.

    McDavid struggled to produce through some very tight checking, but still made some nifty plays. Not sold on his line-mates, imo; I don’t like Hall with him as they both do better when they are carrying the puck.

  83. fuzzy muppet says:

    Woodguy,

    Hall and McDavid NEEF the puck to be effective. They must be split up. And for God’s sake give Yak a fuckING chance with some skilled players

  84. hunter1909 says:

    Whatever happened to Taylor Hall?

  85. Woodguy says:

    TOI 5v5

    Player 5v5 TOI
    Griffin Reinhart 18:20
    Oscar Klefbom 16:41
    Eric Gryba 15:26
    Justin Schultz 15:13
    Andrej Sekera 14:46
    Mark Fayne

    Taylor Hall 15:09
    Connor McDavid 14:42
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 13:18
    Benoit Pouliot 12:46
    Teddy Purcell 12:45
    Anton Lander 11:33
    Anton Slepyshev 11:25
    Lauri Korpikoski 11:07
    Matt Hendricks 11:06
    Nail Yakupov 9:47
    Luke Gazdic 8:04
    Mark Letestu 7:04

  86. pocession charge says:

    I thought the team looked pretty good. Definitely not a bottom feeder this year. Yay!

  87. russ99 says:

    LMHF#1,

    That’s more due to the Blues changing strategy to cut those plays off than us not making them.

    I knew going in that McLellan would be more conservative on offense than we’ve been used to.

    There two ways to get more quality shots: commit the third forward to be able to move the puck into better scoring areas before the defense sets up or move the puck faster on the cycle so we can do something with it before our players are checked.

    A lot of that ha to do with how the Blues played stifling in their own end. I suspect we’ll get more of that in Nashville on Saturday

  88. Picturesque says:

    G Money:
    I have no issues with this game.

    The Blues at home are a beast for anybody.

    The Oilers were NOT outclassed, and the goaltending was top notch.

    Cannot reasonably ask for more.

    True that. *presses imaginary “like” button*

  89. Professor Q says:

    I think Talbot just walked nakedly across the camera screen.

  90. Woodguy says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    Woodguy,

    Hall and McDavid NEEF the puck to be effective.They must be split up.And for God’s sake give Yak a fuckING chance with some skilled players

    I NEEFED too, but then I switched to compelting.

  91. fuzzy muppet says:

    Stupid phone.. (or fat fingers )

  92. BONVIE says:

    I seen on the replay now why coaches benched Poulliot, I originally only seen Purcell’s two mistakes on that goal. Pouliott had a chance to get it out once, then floated back without trying to skat back to at least try to cover the blues goal scorer.

  93. G Money says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    In the first 20 games, more than half the games are against elite teams. And half the games against non-elite teams are against the best of the rest (e.g. WSH, PIT).

    If the Oilers can pull 15 points out of those games, they’ll be doing well.

    If they, especially Talbot, play the way they did tonight, they’ll get that easily.

    But that’s still a good result.

    Try to stay away from ledges til then!

  94. hags9k says:

    I liked the effort from Schultz tonight but the GWG tire fire started with his questionable pinch.

    The team looked not too shitty! Talbot, Yak, and even Gazdic looked good by my eye.

    Good effort, we will give the Preds a loss Sat.

  95. Gordies Elbow says:

    G Money:
    My wife is asking why it is that the Oilers lost and I wasn’t swearing at the TV.

    THAT’S a good sign!

    Ha. My wife said the same thing.

    It was a loss, but a hard fought one, and you can tell, there’s a different level of expectations.

  96. fuzzy muppet says:

    G Money,

    I’ve been conditioned to accept failure. The blues really won 4-0

  97. russ99 says:

    hags9k:
    I liked the effort from Schultz tonight but the GWG tire fire started with his questionable pinch.

    The team looked not too shitty! Talbot, Yak, and even Gazdic looked good by my eye.

    Good effort, we will give the Preds a loss Sat.

    Yet he was in the right place to break up the play but went down to block the puck. Considering his newfound commitment of defense, some of those things will take time to sink in.

    Besides our forwards giving up on the play were much more to blame on that goal.

  98. Woodguy says:

    Hall-RNH-Slappy
    Pou-McD-Yak
    Korpse-Lander-Purcell
    4th

    Without Eberle and Saddle there are no Unicorns, so put your best on the top two and get Hall away from McD.

  99. pocession charge says:

    I’d like to see Pouliot and Hall switch, put Yak on the top line, and press box Purcell for next game.

  100. blainer says:

    Woodguy:
    I don’t know what Hall’s issue is but was not good at all.

    Numbers back that up too:

    PlayerCF%
    Mark Letestu66.67
    Luke Gazdic64.29
    Anton Slepyshev58.82
    Nail Yakupov58.82
    Matt Hendricks55
    Lauri Korpikoski50
    Anton Lander47.37
    Connor McDavid44
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins43.33
    Benoit Pouliot41.38
    Taylor Hall37.04
    Teddy Purcell33.33

    Eric Gryba55.17
    Griffin Reinhart54.29
    Mark Fayne52.17
    Andrej Sekera47.83
    Oscar Klefbom39.39
    Justin Schultz39.39

    Yup agreed hall did not look great.. They need to try him away from CMD if they don’t click next game.. Man that Eberle injury s a real drag..The numbers really make Reinhart look good.. we have a player there.. what a great trade..

  101. Lowetide says:

    Talbot with a .933 looks good to me, that’s what I really wanted tonight. As WG mentioned above, Hall is a bit of a worry. I’m interested in seeing Slepy the whole game.

  102. fuzzy muppet says:

    Woodguy,

    Stop making sense!

  103. BeerMe says:

    Anyone got a link to the postgame interviews?

  104. Ice Sage says:

    Hmm… sounds like a lot of rationalization going on here.

    Team’s about the same to my eye – lots of gerbil action, peripheral play and poor finishing. I’m sure the fancypants stats will confirm this. Their only goal was a blatant gaffe by the Blues, for Weir’s sakes!
    Blues ground them down and calmly grabbed the win.
    Talbot kept it respectable and that’s a welcome thing but still outplayed by Brian freaking Elliot?

    Lots of teaching moments for you, Mr. McLellan!

  105. LMHF#1 says:

    russ99:
    LMHF#1,

    That’s more due to the Blues changing strategy to cut those plays off than us not making them.

    I knew going in that McLellan would be more conservative on offense than we’ve been used to.

    I don’t know…didn’t see them attack the middle at the blue line very much.

    I’m a little worried about McLellan’s offensive strategy. Too many “just fire it” shots from the outside so far. Too much “take what they give you”. Hopefully it doesn’t look like the Eskimos did a few years ago…throwing 5-yarders on 2nd and 15.

  106. Woodguy says:

    McDavid’s most common opponents:

    Carl Gunnarsson 8:17
    Kevin Shattenkirk 7:24
    Alex Pietrangelo 7:01
    Jay Bouwmeester 6:54
    David Backes 5:44
    Troy Brouwer 5:44
    Jaden Schwartz 5:01
    Paul Stastny 4:58
    Dmitrij Jaskin 4:46
    Alexander Steen 4:29
    Vladimir Tarasenko 3:50
    Robby Fabbri 3:45
    Jori Lehtera 3:36
    Ryan Reaves 2:07
    Colton Parayko 2:06
    Kyle Brodziak 2:01
    Steve Ott 1:48
    Joel Edmundson 0:56

  107. hunter1909 says:

    Instead of a nice easy fun win, the Blues had to go for the beat up the sparring partner type of win.

    Instead of having a killer offense, Oilers played a reasonable quality level defence.

    Talbot’s 1,000x better than the previous goalies.

  108. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    Woodguy:
    I don’t know what Hall’s issue is but was not good at all.

    Numbers back that up too:

    PlayerCF%
    Mark Letestu66.67
    Luke Gazdic64.29
    Anton Slepyshev58.82
    Nail Yakupov58.82
    Matt Hendricks55
    Lauri Korpikoski50
    Anton Lander47.37
    Connor McDavid44
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins43.33
    Benoit Pouliot41.38
    Taylor Hall37.04
    Teddy Purcell33.33

    Eric Gryba55.17
    Griffin Reinhart54.29
    Mark Fayne52.17
    Andrej Sekera47.83
    Oscar Klefbom39.39
    Justin Schultz39.39

    Totally agree about Hall. I was hesitant about to say anything because of the reputation he has, but I’m not seeing it. He misses passes, falls down a lot, never seems to win a board battle (Jaden Swartz out muscled him along the boards) and has zero chemistry with McDavid. It’s not just “one game”, to me it’s “yet another game”. Perhaps I’m just pessimistic.

    McDavid looked good but “Eichel The Already Annointed By Eastern Media Calder Winner” scored McDavid didn’t so another first overall waste by the perpetually hapless Oilers…. Can’t wait to hear Hrudey and Kypreos now.

    I also agree overall this was an ok showing. But I still want to scream and throw things.

  109. hags9k says:

    russ99,

    I know, he got back and was right there, but after the pinch we were in chase/hot potato mode until the goal. That stuff will happen, I definitely see a player who is trying hard. If he keeps the effort level there, I think TMac will get him sorted out.

  110. Gordies Elbow says:

    LadiesloveSmid:

    Yakupov, 59% ES CF with 0% OZS

    Wow. Yak had a great game, and was a threat all night (in a good way.) There’s a player there.

    I’d like to see:
    Hall-Hopkins-Purcell
    Pouliot-McDavid-Yakupov
    Korpikowski-Lander-Slepyshev

  111. fuzzy muppet says:

    Woodguy,

    Home ice seems pretty important

  112. B S says:

    böök¡je,

    Oh, oh, do Optimus Prime next.

  113. hunter1909 says:

    Yaks deserves a shot with McDavid.

    Hall needs to run his own line.

  114. Woodguy says:

    Woodguy:
    McDavid’s most common opponents:

    Carl Gunnarsson8:17
    Kevin Shattenkirk7:24
    Alex Pietrangelo7:01
    Jay Bouwmeester6:54
    David Backes5:44
    Troy Brouwer5:44
    Jaden Schwartz5:01
    Paul Stastny4:58
    Dmitrij Jaskin4:46
    Alexander Steen4:29
    Vladimir Tarasenko3:50
    Robby Fabbri3:45
    Jori Lehtera3:36
    Ryan Reaves2:07
    Colton Parayko2:06
    Kyle Brodziak2:01
    Steve Ott1:48
    Joel Edmundson0:56

    Saw that coming since April

  115. Centre of attention says:

    McDavid had 2 dynamite chances tonight. Doesn’t matter if he didn’t score. The Oil usually play the Preds well and I’m betting they come away with at least a pitty point in the standings. I have a feeling McDavid registers a point, probably a second assist.

    Even if he doesn’t score an actual goal for a couple games, who cares. It took Hall how many games to score his first NHL goal? Connor’s making top-speed plays and making the defense back up. Eventually some combination of wingers is going to click and Connor will start raking in the assists. Hall hasn’t looked good so far but I’m comfortable with McLellan giving that line the benefit of the doubt.

  116. russ99 says:

    Looking forward to that Calgary game, if we can keep playing like this and progress a little each game, we could take a big jump against the Flames.

  117. G Money says:

    Ice Sage,

    EV CF% 48%. About right. Blues had the edge in play early, going up 9-0 in the first 5 minutes. Ended the game +8, so the Oilers basically played the blues even up for the last 55:00.

    Given the Blues were at home and the typically abysmal NHL reffing, the fancy stats agree with the eyes. The Oilers were not outclassed, not at all.

  118. TeeVee says:

    We lost but we sure as hell didn’t get bullied all over the ice like we normally do against these scumbags.

  119. hunter1909 says:

    Gordies Elbow: Wow. Yak had a great game, and was a threat all night (in a good way.) There’s a player there.

    I’d like to see:
    Hall-Hopkins-Purcell
    Pouliot-McDavid-Yakupov
    Korpikowski-Lander-Slepyshev

    Trade Sleps for Purcell, and you have a deal.

  120. Woodguy says:

    OZS% (all my numbers from Naturalstattrick)

    Connor McDavid 78.57
    Benoit Pouliot 77.78
    Teddy Purcell 71.43
    Taylor Hall 70.59
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 66.67
    Anton Slepyshev 55.56
    Lauri Korpikoski 40
    Luke Gazdic 40
    Mark Letestu 33.33
    Matt Hendricks 33.33
    Anton Lander 20
    Nail Yakupov 20

    Eric Gryba 63.64
    Griffin Reinhart 63.64
    Andrej Sekera 55.56
    Justin Schultz 50
    Mark Fayne 44.44
    Oscar Klefbom 23.08

    Yak had a game.

    He might be becoming a NHL player.

    Man I hope so.

  121. G Money says:

    Seriously, are we worried about Hall? He didn’t play well, so what? He still had half a dozen chances. His biggest struggle IMO is he didn’t turn those chances into dangerous chances, which is usually his forte.

    Really, is anyone truly concerned that he somehow won’t find his way?

  122. hunter1909 says:

    Walter Gretzkys Neighbour: I also agree overall this was an ok showing. But I still want to scream and throw things.

    This.

  123. hags9k says:

    Hall did set up 97 with a nice quick pass on that PP.

    If we are more worried about Hall after this game than the Gryba Reinhart pairing, I’d say that’s a positive.

  124. fuzzy muppet says:

    It wasn’t a drubbing, but the result is the same. At what point dies Hall become a concern. He’s been underwhelming all preseason also

  125. G Money says:

    P.S. 35% roster turnover. First real game under a new coach and system. Playing an elite team.

    Exactly what is the ‘reasonable expectation’??

  126. tcho says:

    You know, I didn’t think that was so bad. Considering that was a road game, against a damned good team, and we’ve got a lot of fresh faces and a new coach/systems.

    Goaltending didn’t shit the bed. D-zone rarely looked like a tire fire.

    Steps.

  127. Woodguy says:

    Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo………………………………

    Talbot’s alright eh?

  128. G Money says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    10 games. Minimum.

  129. Lowetide says:

    G Money:
    Seriously, are we worried about Hall?He didn’t play well, so what?He still had half a dozen chances.His biggest struggle IMO is he didn’t turn those chances into dangerous chances, which is usually his forte.

    Really, is anyone truly concerned that he somehow won’t find his way?

    Nope, just started watching but for me I just didn’t want the feeling of desperation from the last two game openers. Early shift, Oilers having a terrible time getting puck out (two chances and nothing then Tarasenko with a great chance).

  130. böök¡je says:

    Walter Gretzkys Neighbour: Totally agree about Hall. I was hesitant about to say anything because of the reputation he has, but I’m not seeing it. He misses passes, falls down a lot, never seems to win a board battle (Jaden Swartz out muscled him along the boards) and has zero chemistry with McDavid. It’s not just “one game”, to me it’s “yet another game”. Perhaps I’m just pessimistic.

    McDavid looked good but “Eichel The Already Annointed By Eastern Media Calder Winner” scored McDavid didn’t so another first overall waste by the perpetually hapless Oilers…. Can’t wait to hear Hrudey and Kypreos now.

    I also agree overall this was an ok showing. But I still want to scream and throw things.

    That nearly point per game pace Hall has been scoring at for years on crappy teams has just been lucky bounces for a guy who can’t skate or pass.

    Get a grip!

  131. Centre of attention says:

    G Money,

    I bet Hall scores against the Preds. I’m not worried at all, McLellan has a hunch that pair will figure it out and I’m fine with trusting his judgement. You can only get so many odd man rushes before SOMEONE scores.

  132. Woodguy says:

    G Money:
    Seriously, are we worried about Hall?He didn’t play well, so what?He still had half a dozen chances.His biggest struggle IMO is he didn’t turn those chances into dangerous chances, which is usually his forte.

    Really, is anyone truly concerned that he somehow won’t find his way?

    I’m not sure how he plays with McD.

    This is their 6th game together and it hasn’t been great.

    They both may need the puck.

    Its ok, they’re both still good.

    Saw Hall bad tonight.

    Bad decisions, bad passing, not passing.

    Saw him bad.

    Know he’s good.

    Really good.

  133. Lowetide says:

    Another bad shift, this time Reinhart and Gryba. McDavid finally makes a play at the blue to get it out. 2 minutes in and all I see is no breakouts.

  134. BONVIE says:

    hunter1909: Trade Sleps for Purcell, and you have a deal.

    Totally agree with this.

  135. böök¡je says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    It wasn’t a drubbing, but the result is the same. At what point dies Hall become a concern.He’s been underwhelming all preseason also

    Not yet, we’ll let you know.

  136. Lowetide says:

    Sekera finally makes a breakout pass, 2.5 minutes it. To Gazdic.

  137. hags9k says:

    Woodguy,

    Great game by Talbot for sure WG.

  138. böök¡je says:

    Lowetide,

    It’s s bad start

  139. G Money says:

    Lowetide,

    Five minutes of tire fire, and then a pretty sturdy back and forth for 55 minutes.

  140. hags9k says:

    Lowetide,

    Sekera – I’m not seeing it.

  141. hunter1909 says:

    G Money:
    Seriously, are we worried about Hall?He didn’t play well, so what?He still had half a dozen chances.His biggest struggle IMO is he didn’t turn those chances into dangerous chances, which is usually his forte.

    Really, is anyone truly concerned that he somehow won’t find his way?

    Hall seems like a shadow of what he was 2-3 seasons ago.

    Why give him the benefit of the doubt? All he’s done in the NHL is play for losers. This team of “star” forwards couldn’t even put together a single goal. Taresenko on the other hand…

    On the other hand, McDavid gets a free pass. A few more moral losses from now he’s going to go completely crazy, and take over the team.

    I’m a huge Hall fan, normally. But wtf.

  142. Ice Sage says:

    G Money,

    Yes, G, that’s well-said and I agree the gap is narrowing but the Blues were ‘just better enough’ in every category tonight, especially shooting percentage!

  143. G Money says:

    Woodguy,

    Yeah, he’s fighting the puck. Happens to all players at times … I don’t get the angst that some have.

  144. Lowetide says:

    15:24 left, textbook breakout Reinhart to Gryba to Nuge. Music!

  145. Lowetide says:

    Reinhart is going to have to be harder, more physical. He’s a big man and doesn’t delay the winger in any way.

  146. fuzzy muppet says:

    Someone is waaaay behind.

  147. Frank the dog says:

    Perspective:
    Much better than the 5-2 beat down by the phlegms in our first game last year.
    Not as good as the 2-1 OT loss against the Blues in Nov.

    I would put Hall with Lander and Yak, Lander doesn’t need to carry the puck, that would become a scoring line for sure.
    Id also like to see Purcell benched.
    Edit: It would be good to see them come out really pissed off against Nashville and beat the crap out of them.

  148. G Money says:

    Ice Sage:
    G Money,

    Yes, G, that’s well-said and I agree the gap is narrowing but the Blues were ‘just better enough’ in every category tonight, especially shooting percentage!

    Yup, they were the better team and deserved the win.

    The key for me is that the Oilers were not outclassed (except for the first 5 minutes).

    If this was last year (sorry NYC), those first five minutes are the whole game.

    But the Oilers settled down and played a solid 55 minutes.

    Again – the key here is, we’ve got a team with 35% roster turnover and a new coach and system playing their first real game, on the road, against one of the NHL elite.

    I thought the game was excellent.

    I especially loved that the Oilers were so pissed off afterwards!

  149. Woodguy says:

    Todd Kirkpatrick ‏@TKirkpatrickYLL 3m3 minutes ago
    @newmandustin @Woodguy55 McDavid needs 2004 Ryan Smyth. A winger who can bang in garbage out of chaos.

    I agree with this.

    I think Pou might fit him better than Hall

  150. Sugar Reijo says:

    Walter Gretzkys Neighbour:

    Can’t wait to hear Hrudey

    Nuge has 1 goal in 1 game played x 82 games = 49 pt. projection.

    The guy’s a public service commercial on the dangers of tying your headband too tight.

  151. UnjustEnrichment says:

    I was especially pleased with the calm effectiveness of Talbot and the simple but effective play of Reinhart. Reinhart shows great potential at being able to clear out the front of the net and I like how he keeps things fairly simple. It was also interesting that he went up ice later in the third period with some purposefulness. Finally, he did fire a couple of cannons from the point. The Oilers need someone who can do that.

  152. Centre of attention says:

    hunter1909: Hall seems like a shadow of what he was 2-3 seasons ago.

    Why give him the benefit of the doubt? All he’s done in the NHL is play for losers. This team of “star” forwards couldn’t even put together a single goal. Taresenko on the other hand…

    On the other hand, McDavid gets a free pass. A few more moral losses from now he’s going to go completely crazy, and take over the team.

    I’m a huge Hall fan, normally. But wtf.

    It’s the first game, relax. Hall didn’t light it up in preseason, big whoop. Give them until at least the first home game to figure it out before throwing on the blender. Gotta let Chemistry build with a 35% roster turnover. Slepy might be 1 too many rookies on that line. I wish Eb’s was back… 🙁

  153. böök¡je says:

    It’s game 1, can we agree that Hall had a bad game, but not write him off just yet? Maybe he slept poorly because he was worried for Connor. Who knows, but one game does not warrant such a hugh level of concern. Let’s give it 10 games.

  154. Lowetide says:

    Effective shift featuring Hall with the kids, they get a bit of a look and then Gryba fires a hopeless shot from the point. Good shift by Hall line at about 8 minute mark, niftty pass hall to Slepy

  155. sliderule says:

    I bought a Hall shirt just after he became our first number one.

    I cheered for him and liked the flash and dash so much that I was willing to overlook the lack of balance and poor decisions that resulted in turnovers.I thought that with strength training and experience he would overcome his weaknesses .

    It just hasn’t happened .In fact tonite he was wiping the ice with his butt,losing battles and ineffective.

    With Chias history he had better find an answer or he will have another home.

  156. Woodguy says:

    Ice Sage:
    G Money,

    Yes, G, that’s well-said and I agree the gap is narrowing but the Blues were ‘just better enough’ in every category tonight, especially shooting percentage!

    And waterskiing behind Oilers and hanging off of them.

    Fucking HItchcock teams get away with murder and its that shit that makes the NHL a fucking 2-1 and 3-2 league.

    Its Bullshit.

  157. G Money says:

    Wow Bishop stopped two penalty shots.

  158. Kmart99 says:

    G Money:
    fuzzy muppet,

    In the first 20 games, more than half the games are against elite teams. And half the games against non-elite teams are against the best of the rest (e.g. WSH, PIT).

    If the Oilers can pull 15 points out of those games, they’ll be doing well.

    If they, especially Talbot, play the way they did tonight, they’ll get that easily.

    But that’s still a good result.

    Try to stay away from ledges til then!

    Tonight was always going to be a loss, but I didn’t see a good team at all. Hall looked awful. Nuge looked OK, but overwhelmed. McDavid looked good the few times he got the puck, but those occasions were extremely rare.

    Outside of Yak’s awful pass on the PP, he looked solid.

    Sekera, Klefbom, Hall, Reinhart, purcell, Slepyshev, Gryba, Fayne all looked brutal to me. I saw Gazdic and Hendricks good tonight at least.

    This team is exactly who I thought they were. Without a developed Nurse and Draisait, they are TOAST. Expect .300 in the first 20 games.

    There were a few brief moments of sustained pressure, but not nearly enough. If this team wants 80 pts this year, they will have to at least lose these tough games by a smaller margin.

    Also, put Yak and Pouliot with Connor. #overreactingiknowbuticanthelpit

  159. Lowetide says:

    Steve Ott is an asshole.

  160. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    G Money:
    fuzzy muppet,

    10 games. Minimum.

    That is very reasonable. Also agree Hall McDavid are likely best used apart and Yakupov is deserving of some quality line mates. I do like Hall I’m just beginning of to notice some issues and am sort of holding my breath waiting for the flashy player we know he can be to emerge.

    If Pouliot was benched for lacklustre effort, then maybe overall that’s a good consistent message from the coach. Pleasantly surprised by Gazdic, not so much by pretty crappy refereeing.

    Definitely not an embarrassing loss. Baby steps…

  161. hunter1909 says:

    Overall, once everyone settles down it’s pretty clear the team played pretty bloody well.

  162. Woodguy says:

    G Money:
    Woodguy,

    Yeah, he’s fighting the puck.Happens to all players at times … I don’t get the angst that some have.

    Meh, its a message board and people have been drinking.

  163. Woodguy says:

    hunter1909:
    Overall, once everyone settles down it’s pretty clear the team played pretty bloody well.

    Truth.

  164. Derek says:

    Lowetide:
    Effective shift featuring Hall with the kids, they get a bit of a look and then Gryba fires a hopeless shot from the point. Good shift by Hall line at about 8 minute mark, niftty pass hall to Slepy

    That 8 minute mark is the key. The first 8 minutes of the game were the Oilers of last year. The game gets much better from then on.

  165. Rebilled says:

    I’m glad we got this one loss out of the way.

  166. Lowetide says:

    Fabulous effort by Nuge ends up with an impressive shot from Schultz as he moves to the center. Nuge is using the McLellan shot and retrieval method more effectively than Hall. He places it better. Nuge. Big brain.

  167. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    Steve Ott is an asshole.

    Fuck that guy and fuck Hitch for employing him.

  168. flyfish1168 says:

    Woodguy:
    Hall-RNH-Slappy
    Pou-McD-Yak
    Korpse-Lander-Purcell
    4th

    Without Eberle and Saddle there are no Unicorns, so put your best on the top two and get Hall away from McD.

    I would like to see this next game. Yak was a demon on the forecheck. Would like to see TOI on 5×5 up. Purcell by eye was to slow.

  169. böök¡je says:

    Having a goalie gives the coach and players time to work through this.

  170. Lowetide says:

    Fabulous defensive play Reinhart. McDavid with an edge but Gunnarson closes him out. Blues are stifling. Holy shit they’re a tough checking team.

  171. Woodguy says:

    Kmart99,

    This team is exactly who I thought they were. Without a developed Nurse and Draisait, they are TOAST. Expect .300 in the first 20 games.

    Would you care to wager on that?

  172. Bag of Pucks says:

    I’m encouraged if I’m Chia and TMac.

    The main adds all looked good (McDavid, Talbot, Sekera, Reinhart) and Letestu and Gryba looked like useful pieces as well.

    Hall wasn’t thinking the game as quickly as McDavid by me eye. If Taylor gives the puck up more freely and then skates to the space Connor creates, he can cash a lot of goals. Right now he’s trying to afterburn with him and it’s like two receivers running patterns too close together. They’ll figure it out.

    Ruxpin is not a Top 6 player. What am I saying? He’s not an NHL player.

    Lot of chaos with that KBom/Jultz pairing. Could see Sekera/KBom down the road.

    And I loved MacDavid’s post game presser. HATES to lose. When your best player has that mindset, good things WILL happen.

  173. BONVIE says:

    Frank the dog:
    Perspective:
    Much better than the 5-2 beat down by the phlegms in our first game last year.
    Not as good as the 2-1 OT loss against the Blues in Nov.

    I would put Hall with Lander and Yak, Lander doesn’t need to carry the puck, that would become a scoring line for sure.
    Id also like to see Purcell benched.

    We can’t really bench him. I guess if Klinkhammer draws in its a possibility but Purcell can pass the puck he’s just not getting it done! He is killing the Nuges offence on the cycle, and making soft plays in the defensive zone.

  174. dustrock says:

    Short story: Talbot excellent, D pretty good overall. Forwards no offensive threat whatsoever, although I thought puck retrieval was visually better. Thought Reinhart and Gryba much better than Sekera Fayne. Not sure if Fayne can do it in today’s NHL and I’ve been underwhelmed by Sekera since preseason.

    Schultz was much, much better defensively but I still don’t understand his offensive decision making and he can’t QB a PP.

    I’m actually starting to sour on Taylor Hall.

  175. Lowetide says:

    Letestu line with a FANTASTIC shift at 12+ minute mark of P! and then Yakupov dances and they get a chance. I’m liking this game men.

  176. fifthcartel says:

    Talbot looks good.

    Not a terrible game, but I definitely think they win against Nashville.

    The Preds may have an impressive defense group, but I don’t think they can match any line against RNH, let alone RNH and McDavid.

  177. böök¡je says:

    Some of you are forgetting your [Eeyore] tags.

  178. Derek says:

    I hope everyone talking about Halls poor play tonight realizes he’s playing top opposition with 2 rookies on his line against one of the best teams in the best league on the planet.

    I’m not saying, i’m just saying.

  179. dustrock says:

    Oh, and we have to watch Purcell or Korpse over Draisaitl?

  180. Woodguy says:

    Derek:
    I hope everyone talking about Halls poor play tonight realizes he’s playing top opposition with 2 rookies on his line against one of the best teams in the best league on the planet.

    I’m not saying, i’m just saying.

    Excellent reality check.

  181. böök¡je says:

    Let’s all go smash Hall’s baby furniture!!

  182. Centre of attention says:

    sliderule:
    I bought a Hall shirt just after he became our first number one.

    I cheered for him and liked the flash and dash so much that I was willing to overlook the lack of balance and poor decisions that resulted in turnovers.I thought that with strength training and experience he would overcome his weaknesses .

    It just hasn’t happened .In fact tonite he was wiping the ice with his butt,losing battles and ineffective.

    With Chias history he had better find an answer or he will have another home.

    1st game and your already talking trade Hall. Can you not?

  183. Woodguy says:

    dustrock:
    Oh, and we have to watch Purcell or Korpse over Draisaitl?

    Saddle won’t be down too long

  184. hunter1909 says:

    I want them to trade for Logan Couture.

  185. Woodguy says:

    böök¡je:
    Let’s all go smash Hall’s baby furniture!!

    Fire bookie.

    We’re supposed to light it on fire.

  186. G Money says:

    Derek,

    Oh just stop it with your reasonableness and perspective and all that nonsense.

    Hall’s a bust!!

  187. Lowetide says:

    The Oilers score! Holy crap! Where was THAT G7 SCF?

  188. Sugar Reijo says:

    Lowetide:
    Steve Ott is an asshole.

    I don’t think even his mom would disagree.

  189. frjohnk says:

    Lowetide,

    Watching the game on tape delay?

  190. Woodguy says:

    dustrock:
    Short story: Talbot excellent, D pretty good overall. Forwards no offensive threat whatsoever, although I thought puck retrieval was visually better.Thought Reinhart and Gryba much better than Sekera Fayne.Not sure if Fayne can do it in today’s NHL and I’ve been underwhelmed by Sekera since preseason.

    Schultz was much, much better defensively but I still don’t understand his offensive decision making and he can’t QB a PP.

    I’m actually starting to sour on Taylor Hall.

    I liked the D too, but thought none of em could skate too quickly.

    Nurse is going to stick out like a sore thumb.

    A speedy sore thumb.

  191. G Money says:

    LT’s 50 minute game time delay is very entertaining.

  192. elgruntus says:

    Gadzooks earned another game by playing “heavy”. I’d sit Teddy Ruxpin and put the Hammer in his spot Saturday

  193. leadfarmer says:

    What a comeback by the Wild. 4 goals in 5 min in the 3rd

  194. Woodguy says:

    frjohnk:
    Lowetide,

    Watching the game on tape delay?

    He’s watching it on Super 8 film.

  195. hunter1909 says:

    I have a very important announcement:

    We’ve collectively turned into Kevin Lowe.

  196. Lowetide says:

    Sekera Fayne isn’t working boys. Early second period, the McDavid line with a nice chance, there was a hook there (wasn’t called) and that could have been a big point in the game.

  197. hunter1909 says:

    Woodguy: He’s watching it on Super 8 film.

    Regular 8.

  198. LadiesloveSmid says:

    hunter1909:
    I want them to trade for Logan Couture.

    San Jose’s young and upcoming star!?

  199. G Money says:

    Lowetide: was a hook there (wasn’t called)

    Yeah, you’ll want to copy that to your clipboard.

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