DON’T NEED A WEATHERMAN TO KNOW WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS

The Edmonton Oilers are bleeding veterans faster than a four-team expansion draft—and it feels so good. Todd McLellan has arrived with a ton of experience and a lot of currency, meaning he can cut a $4.5M defenseman like Nikita Nikitin confident the boss will sign off. It hasn’t always been this way. Let’s have a look at where some of the money is as we speak:

  • D Nikita Nikitin $4.5M, sent down to Bakersfield awhile back, crickets since.
  • G Ben Scrivens, $2.3M, sent down to Bakersfield awhile back, crickets since.
  • D Andrew Ference, $3.25M, played one of the first six NHL games. Pressbox regular.
  • R Teddy Purcell, $4.5M, currently playing a depth role. Passed over for 1R duty by ALL available hands last night in Vancouver. May be sweating bullets with the callup of Andrew Miller.

This isn’t small dollars. These four men represent $14,550,000 million, or about 20 per cent of the cap. That’s a lot of wasted dollars and we don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

WHO’S MOVING DOWN THE DEPTH CHART?

A few veterans are losing playing time.

  • Andrew Ference 18:52 to 15:12 (down 3:40)
  • Mark Fayne 17:56 to 15:44 (down 2:02)
  • Teddy Purcell 17:09 to 15:58 (down 1:11)
  • Benoit Pouliot 16:37 to 15:51 (down 46 seconds)
  • Rob Klinkhammer 11:04 to 10:19 (down 45 seconds)

Not really fair to Andrew Ference, every chance he’ll see increased time when he gets his next chance. Todd McLellan will probably change his lineup some time this week (unless they keep winning) so maybe we see him then.

I used to say ‘the Edmonton Oilers are a losing organization and they do things for reasons other than winning’ but that appears to be a false statement. Or at least it is when suggesting the Oilers make roster decisions on things like ‘how would it look?’ or showing up veterans.

I don’t know for sure about a turn north, but the wind is blowing in a decidedly different direction.

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64 Responses to "DON’T NEED A WEATHERMAN TO KNOW WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS"

  1. John Chambers says:

    Many many bad contracts. No horrendous contracts.

    The Oilers after the ’15-’16 season will have tremendous payroll agility.

  2. ruotsalainen says:

    As LT has said many times, Chiarelli was keeping his powder dry with regards to the contracts.

    I have no doubt he thought long and hard about buying out Nikitin, but with both him and Purcell coming off the books after this season he thought it better not to.

    Lots of money off the books and one less year on the books for when he buys out Ference.

    It is a little bit of a shame to lose one year of McDavid’s entry level contract, but unfortunately there was some paste(that is what would happen if the powder was no longer dry right?) left over from the previous regime.

  3. RexLibris says:

    John Chambers:
    Many many bad contracts. No horrendous contracts.

    The Oilers after the ’15-’16 season will have tremendous payroll agility.

    They’re going to need to budget about $15 million for McDavid/Yakupov alone if things go well.

    Another $8 million for Nurse/Draisaitl, depending.

    That dead cap space right now, mercifully, isn’t costing the team anything a la Blackhawks, but three of those four come off the books naturally this summer and the fourth will be removed by buyout this summer.

    They will still need to be shrewd buyers this summer, be it by FA or trade.

  4. JDï™ says:

    RexLibris: They will still need to be shrewd buyers this summer, be it by FA or trade.

    Agreed. They can no longer afford to make bad moves wrt pro acquisitions, and after seeing the amount of money MacT/Howie have tied up in dead cap space, here’s hoping their influence has been curtailed.

  5. RexLibris says:

    JDï™: Agreed. They can no longer afford to make bad moves wrt pro acquisitions, and after seeing the amount of money MacT/Howie have tied up in dead cap space, here’s hoping their influence has been curtailed.

    If by curtailed you mean jersey’d and rabbit-punched several times in the solar plexus before being dropped to the ice and carted away in a stretcher…then yes, curtailed will do.

  6. John Chambers says:

    RexLibris,

    That’s right – they have one shot at adding another big contract – it had better be the right pick. Which is fundamentally why I found Seabrook to be a risky proposition.

    Also – don’t forget raises to the goaltenders.

  7. vishcosity says:

    I do recall talk around how impossible it was for free agents to even consider Edm at the time. That MacT got anyone at all to join that roster was a bit surprising to me. Lesser money to play elsewhere would be almost a no brainer in every situation.

    Thankfully it worked for Clarkson at least. Could you imagine if that went through, on top of all the above?

  8. stush18 says:

    I wouldn’t exactly count Purcell as wasted money LT. He is still on the roster.

    Purcell doesn’t get enough credit. He is actually back checking quite well, and has pulled a nuge and stolen the puck from behind.

    But he biggest thing is the controlled zone exits and entries.

    If he was a half step quicker (not faster, and there is a difference) he wouldn’t get half the cap thrown his way.

    He probably would also be worth his contract too though.

  9. JDï™ says:

    RexLibris: If by curtailed you mean jersey’d and rabbit-punched several times in the solar plexus before being dropped to the ice and carted away in a stretcher…then yes, curtailed will do.

    I would settle for ‘kicked in the shin under the table’, whenever either one speaks.

    You seem edgy tonight, Rex.

  10. Lowetide says:

    stush18:
    I wouldn’t exactly count Purcell as wasted money LT. He is still on the roster.

    Purcell doesn’t get enough credit. He is actually back checking quite well,and has pulled a nuge and stolen the puck from behind.

    But he biggest thing is the controlled zone exits and entries.

    If he was a half step quicker (not faster, and there is a difference) he wouldn’t get half the cap thrown his way.

    He probably would also be worth his contract too though.

    Sure. I like Purcell and really like Pouliot (and Fayne). Still, if you’re paying $4.5M for a 4R that’s a lot of wasted money.

  11. AsiaOil says:

    Another reason the job was left “half done” this past summer is the reality that you need to have something worth buying with that cap space. Happy with the acquisitions they made – and happy they passed on guys like Franson who would be an upgrade this year and not good enough by next year. If you are going to fix this, fix it right, and don’t sign new guys just for the short-term.

    I figure we need another RW power forward for the top 6 and a 2 way RH dman with some offense for the top 4. Get the right guys and this rebuild is largely complete after the young d settle in. Trade bait if needed is:

    Eberle or Yak (only 1)
    Shultz
    Fayne or Gryba (only 1)
    any 2016 draft pick after #1

  12. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    This is the perfect opportunity for an “I told you so” on those contracts, including Purcell’s which most people disagreed with me on last year. But I will try to be more productive and say that at least all but Ference are done this year.

    Still a crying shame. $14.5m could have fetched at least two bona-fide D with room to spare. Oilers could have been playoff bound this year were it not for that wasted money.

    But 12 GF 16 GA in 6 games. The GA is good. I believe the offense will come around with the PP and when Eberle gets back. Team should be about a 2.7 GF and 2.7 GA team this year, if I had to guess. 85 points on the Bettman scale and right on track.

  13. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    The argument heard most was that the Oilers weren’t in cap trouble so it’s just Katz’ money so who cares about overpaying Schultz, Nikitin, Ference, Purcell. Well, here we are. If you also add Schultz to the pile we are talking 18m spent on a bottom pair D, 2 press box or demoted D, and a 4th line winger who is slow and slowing.

    Oilers can’t afford to make any more mistakes like these in the future. Hopefully Chia has learned from his Boston cap spending days.

  14. vishcosity says:

    Thierry Meyssan reports the entire electronic systems of the US military are shut down in Northern Syria, at the US base in Turkey, and suggests the Russians can do it from a satellite, boat, or truck. http://www.voltairenet.org/article189043.html

    wtf?

  15. Woodguy says:

    I used to say ‘the Edmonton Oilers are a losing organization and they do things for reasons other than winning’ but that appears to be a false statement. Or at least it is when suggesting the Oilers make roster decisions on things like ‘how would it look?’ or showing up veterans.

    Its a new day!!

    A breath of very fresh air!!!

    The Boys on the Bus are sitting next to the shitter!!!

    Hossanna!!! Hossanna to the highest!!!

    Wooot!!!

  16. AsiaOil says:

    Well for anyone who doubts that Chia is in control – just how do you think it looks when this much money is sent to the AHL, bottom rung or PB? I won’t whine about the waste – will merely be content that the bleeding has finally stopped and better days are ahead. This team was so close to an utter melt down if mgmt wasn’t purged – and now it is in safe hands – it’s a god damn miracle. Hossanna indeed.

  17. leadfarmer says:

    stush18:
    I wouldn’t exactly count Purcell as wasted money LT. He is still on the roster.

    Purcell doesn’t get enough credit. He is actually back checking quite well,and has pulled a nuge and stolen the puck from behind.

    But he biggest thing is the controlled zone exits and entries.

    If he was a half step quicker (not faster, and there is a difference) he wouldn’t get half the cap thrown his way.

    He probably would also be worth his contract too though.

    And if my aunt had an Adam’s apple she’d be my uncle.

  18. Zelepukin says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Still a crying shame. $14.5m could have fetched at least two bona-fide D with room to spare. Oilers could have been playoff bound this year were it not for that wasted money.

    So if we had that 14.5 back in July, who would we have overpaid to hopefully acquire on D? Mike Green? There was not much for D this year other than Sekera. Beauchemin is 35, Oduya would have been a 3-4D but didn’t sign till the 15th, so we could have grabbed him if he actually wanted to play here.

  19. khildahl says:

    Well. My wife has people over to watch the election. There may be a fist fight over the TV remote if someone tries to move off this ball game.

  20. Lowetide says:

    AsiaOil:
    Well for anyone who doubts that Chia is in control – just how do you think it looks when this much money is sent to the AHL, bottom rung or PB? I won’t whine about the waste – will merely be content that the bleeding has finally stopped and better days are ahead. This team was so close to an utter melt down if mgmt wasn’t purged – and now it is in safe hands – it’s a god damn miracle. Hossanna indeed.

    For me, it’s encouraging because it’s start as you mean to go. There’s NO reason to play Ference over Reinhart if you think Reinhart is part of the future and can play at the NHL level. A year ago, I think this organization would be playing ference even now. Jmo.

  21. geowal says:

    I’m not getting the Purcell wasted money thing. Yes, he’s overpaid, but so was Gagner. Would this not be the last year of his contract? Does anyone wish he was still here?
    Yes, Purcell could have been bought out, but j don’t think he’s THAT bad, he does some good things. I don’t think he belongs in the minors. So failing a trade for a low draft pick, which may not have been out there, what do folks wish had been done?

    All the alternatives either hit the cap next year or hurt the team short term.
    Edit: imo he just doesn’t fit the rest of the group, as he wasn’t a signing.

  22. JDï™ says:

    khildahl: Well. My wife has people over to watch the election.

    I’ve never understood watching election results, but to each…

    Here’s a backup, Justin case: https://www.reddit.com/r/mlbstreams

  23. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Zelepukin: So if we had that 14.5 back in July, who would we have overpaid to hopefully acquire on D? Mike Green? There was not much for D this year other than Sekera. Beauchemin is 35, Oduya would have been a 3-4D but didn’t sign till the 15th, so we could have grabbed him if he actually wanted to play here.

    That’s not the point here. It’s not necessarily for spending on UFAs from this summer.
    It’s being in a position of leverage vs. The rest of the league and taking advantage of cap motivated trades from the likes f Chicago and Boston.

    It was a missed opportunity.

    Just a couple of examples would be Ehrhoff for Ference, Petry for Nikitin, Stempniak for Purcell.

    All represent upgrades and the total cost is much lower.

    Thank goodness it is just a big anchor this year. But they can’t do this anymore going forward. Especially as Nurse, Drai, McDavid and yakupov will need to be signed in the next 2-3 years

  24. khildahl says:

    JDï™: I’ve never understood watching election results, but to each…

    I don’t get it either. Luckily one of her friends is on my side here and we’re winning (for now).

  25. AsiaOil says:

    Oh man I don’t even want to go there – an alternative universe where the old mgmt group is still in place and we drafted Lawson Crouse is too awful to consider. No Sekera – Nikitin, Ference and Shultz playing big minutes again – god knows what kind of crazy UFA signings or trades would have taken place. Shiver me timbers indeed…..

    Lowetide: For me, it’s encouraging because it’s start as you mean to go. There’s NO reason to play Ference over Reinhart if you think Reinhart is part of the future and can play at the NHL level. A year ago, I think this organization would be playing ference even now. Jmo.

  26. Unwashed Oilfan says:

    Hello, commenters, what the fuck? Where ya all at? Are you seriously digging in the back yards and tearing up the kitchen floor boards to hide all your livings?

  27. murphy says:

    Fayne, gazdic and a 5th rounder for hartnell, columbus is desperate for a solid D man. Then we need to shop eberle for a better RH star d-man.

  28. Lowetide says:

    Unwashed Oilfan:
    Hello, commenters, what the fuck?Where ya all at?Are you seriously digging in the back yards and tearing up the kitchen floor boards to hide all your livings?

    Nothing….

  29. rickithebear says:

    Fayne: 13:40 EVTOI comp 1st.

    Is anyone taking his 1st comp play? nope.

    Do you trade him with none able to cover? Are you on Crack!

  30. rickithebear says:

    AsiaOil: an alternative universe where the old mgmt group is still in place and we drafted Lawson Crouse

    i thought we talked about this!
    This is hyperbole!

  31. Lowetide says:

    rickithebear:
    Fayne: 13:40 EVTOI comp 1st.

    Is anyone taking his 1st comp play? nope.

    Do you trade him with none able to cover? Are you on Crack!

    I like Fayne. There. I said it.

  32. murphy says:

    rickithebear,

    I think eberle could get us a reasonable replacement no? We know eventually (3-12 months from now) nurse will have that spot anyway.

  33. GCW_69 says:

    murphy:
    Fayne, gazdic and a 5th rounder for hartnell, columbus is desperate for a solid D man. Then we need to shop eberle for a better RH star d-man.

    That would be the Eberle that is the fourth highest scoring right wing in the NHL over the last four seasons?

    Hall, btw, is the 10th highest scoring left wing. Nuge is 32nd highest scoring centre. So, clearly Eberle is the one to trade…

    Hartnell is 33. Pretty sure that’s about the time players with his playing style start to fade. Not sure he is a fit.

  34. murphy says:

    Lowetide,

    I do too but at some point something we all like will be out the door for something we really need.

  35. murphy says:

    GCW_69,

    I love eberle… But where does he fit? It seems the new group wants size in the top 6 and specifically with hall and nuge.:.. So instead of having hendricks or klink in that spot why not pick up a guy who can score 60 points while playing the same game. Hes from the area. I cant see us getting a young version of the same player, they rarely get traded. The time is now with macdavid and his cheap contract.

  36. Genjutsu says:

    Stop trading Ebs. RHS first shot scorer.

    Man.

  37. murphy says:

    A few weeks ago i wouldnt want to trade ebs either but what we have learned so far this season, with macdavid, hall and nuge, we can have two lines that can produce offense but struggle against bigger D units, we need better puck movement/break-outs from our D, new management/coaching want more size and grinding in the top 6. I don’t see another way to achieve this without giving up alot (hall or nuge) more or overpaying buff or lucic. Even then buff is getting older to.

  38. murphy says:

    Genjutsu,

    I am open to ideas that keep him here and also get a top pairing D and power forward here but i can’t see another dougie hamilton give away anytime soon

  39. stush18 says:

    I would be open to moving one of hall or ebs, at season end, or start of next season.

    Assuming yakupov continues to click with mcdavid, then one of nuges wingers would be the candidate to be moved.

    Unless you believe we don’t need a right handed pouliot on the top unit. I think we do.

    Hall-nuge-xxx or pou-nuge-ebs
    Poo-mcdavid-yak or xxx-mcdavid-yak

    One of those two makes the most sense if you are looking for a top pairing dman. Just depends on what you’re willing to give.

    Edit* if we assume mcdavids line becomes line number one in two years, than hall is most movable, as he is not a second line winger. Drai could slide into his spot, or someone else. We also have an infinite amount of left handed forwards, so maybe we could….. Balance…. The roster.

    Lol I tried

  40. Genjutsu says:

    murphy,

    murphy,

    How about sign D in off season. Call up Leon when he’s ready.

  41. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: I like Fayne. There. I said it.

    That’s because he looks like the kind of guy who could help you hang a door.

    But as a defenseman?

    j/k

    He’d be good on the right roster. But this has gotten to the point where it isn’t it.

    Now, a Fayne/Ehrhoff partnership could be really good. We don’t have an Ehrhoff though and Fayne is the lesser proactively effective of those two roles, so that is where we find ourselves now.

  42. Lowetide says:

    RexLibris: That’s because he looks like the kind of guy who could help you hang a door.

    But as a defenseman?

    j/k

    He’d be good on the right roster. But this has gotten to the point where it isn’t it.

    Now, a Fayne/Ehrhoff partnership could be really good. We don’t have an Ehrhoff though and Fayne is the lesser proactively effective of those two roles, so that is where we find ourselves now.

    I don’t think the new management likes him. They don’t play him a lot, Gryba is passing him. He’s the old shag carpet at the condo you buy to reno.

  43. marty62 says:

    Lowetide: I don’t think the new management likes him. They don’t play him a lot, Gryba is passing him. He’s the old shag carpet at the condo you buy to reno.

    Fayne was also brought in by the old management who also brought in all that dead space you mention above. I like Fayne, but he has that old dishrag smell on him from the previous management and is probably on the out……

  44. marty62 says:

    Also, I wish everyone would stop trading Eberle and Hall. Without them Edmonton has no chance of having the Unicorn 3 scoring lines. The help on defense is coming, Nurse is not far away, and more importantly McClellan and Chia have identified some of the problems and removed them from the equation. Let Chia work. He is not going to sit around and fantasize about trading for a top pairing Dman. Good teams dont trade away players like that…….

  45. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: I don’t think the new management likes him. They don’t play him a lot, Gryba is passing him. He’s the old shag carpet at the condo you buy to reno.

    My buddies rented a place many, many years ago that came with orange shag carpet. Was always stepping on capacitors and other assorted motherboard pieces there. Place was a dump. I’ll always remember the carpets…and how it got to 38 degrees in the summer. Good times.

    No, the new management is not fond of Mr. Fayne and that is fine. He is a RHD, affordable, big and has Jersey pedigree. Maybe the Leafs take a look at him to go with Gardiner.

    On another note…

    Mr. Lowetide, I have found two images which I feel deserve at least modest consideration for use in upcoming GDTs.

    Girding one’s loins: http://imgur.com/gallery/FyAJY

    And the beautiful Sophia Loren circa 1960…in a corset: http://imgur.com/gallery/v6zCII6

  46. slopitch says:

    Ya I see no reason to trade anyone of the chosen ones with this much cap space off the books at the end of the year. Add MOAR pieces!

  47. Unwashed Oilfan says:

    Everyone talking about trading Ebs because a generational player is making a winger look good (Semenko, Lumley, etc), here’s a thought for you. I am a Yak fan, BUT…. Imagine what a one shot score with tremendous hockey IQ could do with a generational player (Kurri). Sleep on that one tonight.

  48. Lloyd B. says:

    Lowetide: I don’t think the new management likes him. They don’t play him a lot, Gryba is passing him. He’s the old shag carpet at the condo you buy to reno.

    But under the shag is that beautiful hardwood!!

    I renovated an old house a few years ago that had really worn hardwood that needed to be replaced. I was positive there there would be orange shag under it when I was ripping the old hardwood up.

    Ya it’s an oldie but still a goodie. now..get off my lawn.

  49. JDï™ says:

    RexLibris: Girding one’s loins: http://imgur.com/gallery/FyAJY

    Everything I learned about the j-turn, I learned from Jimmy Joe Meeker or Jim Taggart.

  50. Yeti says:

    We often underestimate the importance of having a half-decent season for increasing the trade value of middle order players. When you are losing repeatedly, all the players on the team take a collective hit in trade value. On the one hand, GMs are trying to relieve you of your best players at bargain prices. On the other, no-one has interest in your mid-range roster because they are under-performing.
    A decent season can help fix this and greatly improve the value of players for both trade deadline and the pivotal next summer. A rising tide lifts all boats and so forth. This will be particularly true of Yakupov (not advocating it, just saying) but also of Schultz, Fayne, Pouliot, Lander, etc.
    If there are moves to be made, the summer is the time not least because a year of decent results will greatly improve Chia’s bargaining power for all players.

  51. mm says:

    Yeti:
    We often underestimate the importance of having a half-decent season for increasing the trade value of middle order players. When you are losing repeatedly, all the players on the team take a collective hit in trade value. On the one hand, GMs are trying to relieve you of your best players at bargain prices. On the other, no-one has interest in your mid-range roster because they are under-performing.
    A decent season can help fix this and greatly improve the value of players for both trade deadline and the pivotal next summer. A rising tide lifts all boats and so forth. This will be particularly true of Yakupov (not advocating it, just saying) but also of Schultz, Fayne, Pouliot, Lander, etc.
    If there are moves to be made, the summer is the time not least because a year of decent results will greatly improve Chia’s bargaining power for all players.

    I think Fayne gets traded. Because of some increased trade value.
    Nurse comes in the top6.

    Just not sure when ? After Nurse plays x games in AHL or trade deadline or losing streak by Oilers.

  52. Yeti says:

    mm,

    Yes, Fayne is certainly a possibility. If I recall correctly, he’s on about 3.6m per year for three more years (including the present season). That’s not the kind of contract that gets moved at the trade deadline, and I can’t imagine it happening in-season given the poverty of defensive depth the Oil currently have. Is it more likely he moves in the summer with a forward of value and high pick for a defensive upgrade?

  53. v4ance says:

    Late night musings:

    Philly is in cap hell.

    Next year, Voracek’s $8.25 million extension kicks in. If the cap stays flat as projected, they will only have ~$10 million to re-sign RFAs Brayden Schenn and Radko Gudas AND also replace the 5 pending UFAs (Gagner, Raffl, Ryan White, Luke Schenn, and Yevgeny Medvedev).

    To “help” alleviate their troubles, offer Teddy Purcell and Slepeshev ($5.25 million cap hit) for RJ Umberger and Wayne Simmons ($8.6 million cap hit). I’m not generally a fan of picking up older grinding forwards like Umberger (33) who are close to being worn out but the real get would be 27 year old Simmons who could complement our skilled forward group. Slepeshev would give them a (cheap!) skilled forward prospect to add to their top 6 and Purcell’s cap hit disappears after this year so they could use that money elsewhere (Raffl *cough* 1st line).

  54. mm says:

    YETI,

    Fayne is 3.625 for 2 more yrs and 28 yrs old and a Mactavish signing.
    2 + seasons might scare most teams away.

    It’s more likely in the summer for sure. Which puts no pressure on the Oilers.
    He’s fine to keep and allow D to develop. But if the D develop quicker it could open
    the door sooner. I am bullish on Klefbom and Reinhart.

  55. mm says:

    V4ANCE,

    Purcell+Slepeshev FOR Umberger+Simmonds ??????

    I doubt Philly considers this at all. Umberger only has 2 yrs left.
    Losing Simmonds for cap space when they have no defence anyway.

  56. v4ance says:

    mm,

    Umberger has 2 years left but the cap crunch comes NEXT year. They can’t wait for the cap room. They need it now. Or at least by the end of the season.

    On D, the Flyers actually have some prospects bubbling under who could make the step up to the NHL soon in Provorov, Morin, Sanheim or Gostisbehere.

  57. mm says:

    V4ANCE,

    How bad is their cap crunch ?
    Gagner comes off at 3.6 he is a UFA. Voracek an extra 4.0 and Coutier gets a bump too.
    Don’t get me wrong Philly’s roster is a mess and they have no defence.
    I get what your saying. I just don’t think the bitter pill Philly has to swallow is losing
    Simmonds.

  58. v4ance says:

    mm,

    Philly has $61 million committed to the cap already next year with a projected cap of $70-72 million. They will have about $12 million remaining before hitting the cap max.

    Re-signing UFA Raffl ($3 mil?) RFA Brayden Schenn ($3 mil?) and RFA Gudas ($2.0 mil) leaves them around $4 million to replace 3 forwards and 2 defencemen who are going UFA this year.

    Even if you go with the absolute rosiest cap projection to $75 million, that is $7 million to replace two 3rd line wingers, a 4th liner and two RHD. If they bring in too many high drafted prospects on ELCs, they’re screwed because of the possible bonus clauses. So unless they can clear cap room by next summer, they’ll be forced to fill out the roster with mostly AHL caliber (cheap!) players or one year to retirement vets on PTOs.

    I’m assuming no one picks up their toxic contracts to Lecavalier ($4.5 million for 3 more years) or MacDonald ($5 million for 5 more years).

    The projected $3 million in savings doesn’t seem like much but it could buy them a 2nd pairing right side D instead of an AHLer for next year.

  59. mm says:

    V4ANCE,

    That is CAP Hell for Philly, something will have to shake loose. Something like Boston and Lucic.
    It will be interesting for many teams. I wonder who will be Edmonton’s top 2 d men next year.

  60. Yeti says:

    mm,

    You could quietly offer to take Couturier’s $4.3m x 6 salary off their hands in exchange for Leon Draitsaitl, a second round pick AND Zach Nagelvoort… 🙂

  61. PhrankLee says:

    Every time I hear ..trade Eberle for…” I ask who is going to replace his points?

    There may be 3 maybe 4 guys in the world at his level on the R.

    Less importantly: who is going to replace his lore? (it’s important to me)

    Nobody. Where do teams always have a hard time creating depth?

    RW. RD.

    Let’s hang on to the good ones we have.

  62. GCW_69 says:

    murphy:
    GCW_69,

    I love eberle… But where does he fit? It seems the new group wants size in the top 6 and specifically with hall and nuge.:.. So instead of having hendricks or klink in that spot why not pick up a guy who can score 60 points while playing the same game. Hes from the area. I cant see us getting a young version of the same player, they rarely get traded. The time is now with macdavid and his cheap contract.

    You give him a chance to play with McDavid before you trade him

    We don’t know if TMac likes him with Hall and Nuge yet either.

  63. rickithebear says:

    the narative here and by many nieve D experts is Fayne is 3rd comp because of minutes.

    Most NJ people are asking what did we do to him?

    they are aware his numbers are better without greene when he was in NJ.

    My answer was Eakins.:

    This year he had one Bad game against DAL or his HSCA/60 pace is top 5 in league standard under Tmac a box protection coach.

    Faces 1st comp 14:03 EVTOI
    and
    2:28 on PK

    In GM 4 our one home game Fayne was
    11:23 EV TOI
    and
    0:34 PK TOI
    Became obvious to Coaches not worth trying to give other D.
    1st comp

    Last 2 roads games:
    1st comp 15:05 EVTOI
    and
    2:11 PKTOI

    My position to them is TOI means Shite without results.

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