IS THERE ANY WAY OUT OF THIS DREAM?

At some point this morning, the Oilers will practice and twitter will reveal the McLellan plan. Last night, this blog, twitter and foolscap all over northern Alberta spent too much time pondering combinations. Hall—Nuge—Eberle? Pouliot—Nuge—Eberle? On it goes.

PROJECTED LINES FOR PITTSBURGH GAMES (A GUESS)

  • Pouliot—Nuge—Eberle
  • Hall—Draisaitl—Yakupov
  • Hendricks—Letestu—Purcell
  • Pakarinen—Lander—Miller
  • Klefbom—Davidson
  • Nurse—Sekera
  • Reinhart—Gryba
  • Talbot (Nilsson)

Caveat being Eberle, if he isn’t completely ready then I keep the Hall, Nuge, Leon trio together for one more bus tour of the south and a greatest hits album. In truth, I hate like hell the idea of breaking up the 1line, secretly hope McLellan figures a work around.

FOUR FORTNIGHTS AND SEVERAL HOURS HENCE

  • Justin Cuthbert: Dreger said he was told that McDavid’s labrum was fully intact as surgeons repaired a “clean” break of the collarbone, and hypothesized that the best-case scenario for his return is seven-to-eight weeks. Source

Seven weeks puts us at some kind of crazy, beautiful New Year’s Party at home versus the Ducks of Long Beach. He would miss 25 games, but I’ll bet on McDavid to win the Calder if he gets into 50 games or more. One suspects he’ll heal like a hero and we’ll be cheering him on at Rexall in short order.

REAL REL GONE

It’s possible to have good numbers and get noticed for negative things—single moments and events can have super importance while being exactly single moments and events. This is the current situation for Mark Fayne, whose possession numbers were good right up until the time he was sent to the outhouse.

oilers d fancy october 2015That’s kind of his style, man. Mark Fayne isn’t about the lumber, he’s about the glove. I understand there’s all kinds of excitement about the young defense and their splendid performance against Philadelphia, but history suggests starting three rookie blue (and a sophomore) among your top six isn’t a great plan unless one of the kids is named Bobby freaking Orr.

fayne here

That’s Mark Fayne right there. He’s not 35, hasn’t suffered a career-threatening injury or joined the Jehovah’s Witnesses. He’s a useful player, and I can’t see him sitting for a long time. Edmonton will either find a way to get him back into the lineup (traditionally this happens after a loss) or Peter Chiarelli will trade him. Despite those poor offensive numbers, Fayne has value as a defender and should fetch something of value. The question is: Should the Oilers unload one of their very few veterans on defense? I think the answer is no, but we’ll see. The last time I saw this many kids arrive with the potential to start, it was Toronto after the Stanley’s trying to bring in a plethora of young D (Jim McKenny, Jim Dorey, Mike Pelyk, Ricky Ley, Brian Glennie, Brad Selwood).

GOALING

When the Leafs were developing those young defensemen, they had veteran goalies for support. Johnny Bower, Bruce Gamble, later Bernie Parent and Jacques Plante for a time. Edmonton doesn’t have established goalies, having chosen to go with a less proven (but bona fide) option in Cam Talbot. The first month of Talbot in Edmonton looks a lot like Ben Scrivens first month a season ago:

  • Scrivens OCT 2014: 9GP, 3.01 .896
  • Talbot OCT 2015: 10GP, 2.88 .897

In November of 2014, Scrivens fell into a well even Lassie couldn’t find, going 8GP, 3.84 .878. That can’t happen for Talbot, this month will be important for the two goalies under contract. By the way, even with that terrible November (it cost Dallas Eakins his job as coach, and as it turned out MacT’s job as GM) Edmonton’s management did not give up on Scrivens. I believe it was the four April performances (4GP, 5.49 .800) that sealed Ben Scrivens fate.

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LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun, busy show with some great guests, this morning at 10 we back out of the driveway. Scheduled to appear, TSN1260:

  • Darcy McLeod, Because Oilers. Adjusting the lines for the McDavid injury, goalies and sample sizes, and all those young blue.
  • Alanna Phillips, CFL is for Girls. Impressive seasons in Edmonton and Ottawa, are they on a collision course?
  • Scott Cullen, TSN. Leafs look good. Seriously. Also, McDavid’s injury impacts hockey fans who couldn’t get enough of the new phenom. What are we going to do for seven weeks?
  • Kurtis Mucha, Director of Goaltending Development for Vimy Hockey and Donnan Hockey. If you have goalie questions (and I’m not going to ask if they’re voodoo) send them in!

10-1260 text, @Lowetide.

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142 Responses to "IS THERE ANY WAY OUT OF THIS DREAM?"

  1. neojanus says:

    Hey Lowetide, I know there’s confusion about sitting Fayne re: advanced stats… but maybe they are sitting him because he’s on the trade block before winter sets in. Every Oilers that gets in the line up ends up needing surgery.

    A possibility?

  2. p3rsonman says:

    I just realized we’re going to have to wait a lot more to potentially see McDavid dish to Eberle on the powerplay. Bummer.

  3. SoCaloil says:

    On a completely unrelevant point, Pajarvii finally got called up to an injury plagued blues and the announcers where raving about his play. He changed his numbers so I was trying to figure that out during the 3rd. But good to see. Fabri though. Great player

    Man has Perron not done much playing w skill. G. 2A
    Will be intersting to see that

    I think we can do quite well against lovejoy and scuderi. Those are slow big boats

  4. Spydyr says:

    Awesome news the break was clean and surgery went well.
    Let’s hope his young bones knit well. I am more concerned with quality of the healing then quantity of time missed.

  5. RexLibris says:

    Too late I realized that perhaps the best LT beauty for the article yesterday could have been Isabella Rosellini circa “The Saddest Music in the World”.

    From imdb:

    A musical of sorts set in Winnipeg during the Great Depression, where a beer baroness organizes a contest to find the saddest music in the world. Musicians from around the world descend on the city to try and win the $25,000 prize.

    Sounds very…Edmonton-ish.

  6. frjohnk says:

    Oilers goalies get a C and rank 22nd in sportsnets power rankings for goalies.

    Flames goalies get a -F and come in 30th place.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-power-rankings-best-goalies-goaltenders-vezina-carey-price-henrik-lundqvist-reimer-condon-ryan-miller-maple-leafs-canucks-canadiens/

  7. Pouzar says:

    Sidebar: To the Edmontonians on the board, has there been any negative news/rumblings regarding the new stadium construction? The live view sure looks good. I guess everything is on schedule?

  8. RexLibris says:

    Discussion this morning about Hall – Draisaitl – Yakupov as a line.

    We’ve discussed Yakupov working well with McDavid and that Hall/McDavid didn’t work because they both like to carry the puck through the NZ.

    Also that Yakupov is playing well because he isn’t carrying the puck through the NZ, but working on the boards and going to the net.

    So, if Yakupov can pass to Hall in the DZ, then help control along the boards when Hall passes it in there (because he gets closed off by defenders), he and Draisaitl can help establish a passing/cycling game down low with Hall.

    I think that line has some merit. And it keeps coaches deciding between Nugent-Hopkins/Eberle and Hall/Yakupov.

    The really funny thing is, if they stick with Draisaitl at C for the duration of McDavid’s injury rehab, he might just be ready to become a 2C when McDavid gets back.

    That bumps one of Lander or Letestu down unless the move Draisatil back to the wing.

    Opportunities abound. Now we just have to wait for all the doors to slam in our faces BecauseOilers.

  9. Johnny skid says:

    frjohnk:
    Oilers goalies get a C and rank 22nd in sportsnets power rankings for goalies.

    Flames goalies get a -F and come in 30th place.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-power-rankings-best-goalies-goaltenders-vezina-carey-price-henrik-lundqvist-reimer-condon-ryan-miller-maple-leafs-canucks-canadiens/

    bad news for the flames always puts a huge smile on my face.

  10. RexLibris says:

    Pouzar:
    Sidebar: To the Edmontonians on the board, has there been any negative news/rumblingsregarding the new stadium construction? The live view sure looks good. I guess everything is on schedule?

    I haven’t heard anything. Had to drive downtown yesterday and the traffic was no better or worse.

    If there is griping it would be from the people who have to deal with it everyday, I would guess.

    But from my circles, no complaints.

  11. John Chambers says:

    SoCaloil,

    Last year at this time folks were speculating about what Perron’s next contract would look like, and the consensus seemed to be that he would get a 5 or 6 year contract whose annual value started with a $5 …

    At this juncture Perron will be lucky if his next contract is for 3 years and begins with a $3. And his downward spiral started after he was playing regularly with Arcobello as his centre as opposed to Crosby / Malkin.

  12. Pouzar says:

    RexLibris,

    but Drai didn’t dominate the AHL.

  13. RexLibris says:

    frjohnk:
    Oilers goalies get a C and rank 22nd in sportsnets power rankings for goalies.

    Flames goalies get a -F and come in 30th place.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-power-rankings-best-goalies-goaltenders-vezina-carey-price-henrik-lundqvist-reimer-condon-ryan-miller-maple-leafs-canucks-canadiens/

    I’m not actually worried about the Oilers’ goalies. I’ve seen better positional play all around, good saves, more consistency and overall a better grade of playing than in previous years (low bar, yes I know).

    The Flames…well, I’ve argued that this is karma biting them back for all those years of Kiprusoff.

    But if they don’t get that sorted out we’ll be watching a Matthews/McDavid matchup for years to come.

    Kent Wilson tweeted out the other day that he could see a Reimer + garbage (his words) for Backlund + Hiller/Ramo deal in the near future.

    Possible. The Leafs are making good bets and Burke has been known to push for known factors in the past. I’m just waiting for him to hire Nonis so the Flames have to give the Leafs a draft pick as compensation.

  14. RexLibris says:

    Pouzar:
    RexLibris,

    but Drai didn’t dominate the AHL.

    Schultz did.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    🙂

  15. RexLibris says:

    John Chambers:
    SoCaloil,

    Last year at this time folks were speculating about what Perron’s next contract would look like, and the consensus seemed to be that he would get a 5 or 6 year contract whose annual value started with a $5 …

    At this juncture Perron will be lucky if his next contract is for 3 years and begins with a $3. And his downward spiral started after he was playing regularly with Arcobello as his centre as opposed to Crosby / Malkin.

    Arcobello > Crosby.

    Sounds like a Sportsnet fact they’d bring out if Crosby played for the Oilers and Arcobello for the Canucks.

  16. godot10 says:

    Can we stop talking about 7 weeks? Can we stop talking about the Calder? The Oilers and McDavid’s team should take an extra month.

    The kid is 18. Let the damn bone heal. The only real risk for this type of injury is re-injury because one didn’t let it fully heal in the first place.

    After the all-star break, please. One month in a twenty-year career does not matter. The Oilers playoffs hope are dependent on how the young defensemen play, not on whether McDavid returns at the earliest possible date.

    Please, just forget about rushing him back.

  17. Hall Awaits says:

    Glad the kid is already on his way to recovery. Hopefully he’s not feeling to down and the team rallies for him.

    Re:Fayne
    I think he’ll be moved by months end. There was something on Oilers Now about Fayne+ for another defender. Unless the plus is something tangible, I can’t see a move that would move the needle much.

    Who’s available anyways? Tyutin, Carle, Coburn or Schenn are the names I’ve seen out there and only Coburn is enticing. That might have something to do with an expiring contract and previous club interest.

  18. Tapdog says:

    Pouzar,

    I work with a Transit property East of the city that has busses commuting there and from what I hear the issues are not with the building itself but with all the construction that creates a hellish commute.
    The Arena project has jumpstarted an incredible amount of projects in the downtown core creating the issue.

    So now that the project is underway there really has not been much negativity in regards to the building. Which is starting to look awesome by the way:)

  19. TheOrangeDesk says:

    I think we need to start talking about how bad a trade Korpiksoki was. Gordon would of had good value at trade deadline. Korps is dead weight right now and still has 2 additional years at 2.5M (general manager). Yikes…

  20. Amadeus says:

    Just curious..

    What’s the # of games that McDavid has to play to be eligible for the Calder?

    Is it 39? If he played 38 games this year, would he be eligible for the Calder next year?

  21. godot10 says:

    John Chambers:
    SoCaloil,

    Last year at this time folks were speculating about what Perron’s next contract would look like, and the consensus seemed to be that he would get a 5 or 6 year contract whose annual value started with a $5 …

    At this juncture Perron will be lucky if his next contract is for 3 years and begins with a $3. And his downward spiral started after he was playing regularly with Arcobello as his centre as opposed to Crosby / Malkin.

    David Perron probably has chronic hip issues, which surfaced publicly after his first season with the Oilers. Hip problems are a big red flag to a long career. The player will go from a mediocre skater to a poor skater fast.

    The Oilers ended up turning Paajarvi and two seconds into Reinhart.

    I think Paajarvi is still going to have a long journeyman career because of his skating ability, and because he will finally have learned how to play forward. He relied on raw talent to get to the NHL.

    He will likely be a young UFA in a couple of years, and I think like Benoit Pouliot, will finally emerge mid-career into a really effective player role player and potentially really good value for money.

  22. RexLibris says:

    There’s something I’ve noticed recently regarding Hall.

    It begins with his conversation with Draisaitl the other day, telling him to stay calm and just play his game.

    Now we’re seeing some very interesting comments from him with all the media about McDavid’s injury.

    The press comments are almost all coming from Chiarelli and Hall. He’s taking it on himself to speak about how the team is going to look out for him during this rehabilitation process. That’s a big damned deal. No player gets McDavid better right now than Hall: star junior, coming from OHL, 1st overall pick, lots of hype (relatively speaking), and now a long-term injury.

    When we speak about players stepping up and filling the void, I’m noticing some pretty impressive steps forward off the ice from Hall in the last month.

  23. Pouzar says:

    Tapdog: So now that the project is underway there really has not been much negativity in regards to the building. Which is starting to look awesome by the way:)

    Good stuff. thx!

  24. Pouzar says:

    RexLibris: Schultz did.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    Damn yer hard to pin down!

  25. RMGS says:

    Amadeus:
    Just curious..

    What’s the # of games that McDavid has to play to be eligible for the Calder?

    Is it 39? If he played 38 games this year, would he be eligible for the Calder next year?

    Missed the Godot10 memo, eh?

    (BTW, I’m in full agreement with said memo.)

  26. Pouzar says:

    RexLibris:
    There’s something I’ve noticed recently regarding Hall.

    It begins with his conversation with Draisaitl the other day, telling him to stay calm and just play his game.

    Now we’re seeing some very interesting comments from him with all the media about McDavid’s injury.

    The press comments are almost all coming from Chiarelli and Hall. He’s taking it on himself to speak about how the team is going to look out for him during this rehabilitation process. That’s a big damned deal. No player gets McDavid better right now than Hall: star junior, coming from OHL, 1st overall pick, lots of hype (relatively speaking), and now a long-term injury.

    When we speak about players stepping up and filling the void, I’m noticing some pretty impressive steps forward off the ice from Hall in the last month.

    Now if he would have permanently embedded his stick up Gudas’ a$$ we’d have Messier 2.0

  27. Pajamah says:

    RexLibris:

    When we speak about players stepping up and filling the void, I’m noticing some pretty impressive steps forward off the ice from Hall in the last month.

    Yeah, but he threw that bottle that 1 time

    #TaylorHallCharacterProblems

  28. John Chambers says:

    RexLibris,

    Good observations, Rex.

    I think McLellan / Chiarelli really like Hall and probably wanted time to evaluate who should be captain as there are several credible candidates. But Hall is the alpha, the top dog of the group, and under Eakins he didn’t have the authority to speak up and criticize the play of the actual captain.

  29. godot10 says:

    Under Krueger, Taylor Hall finished 2nd in Western Conference scoring next to Toews in an all Western Conference schedule, and top ten in the league, and looked like the best left winger in the world modulo which wing Ovechkin was playing at the time. Plus, Corsi monster.

    Under McLellan, Taylor Hall is back in the top 5 in league scoring (after 13 games), and looking like the best left winger in the world modulo Ovechkin and Benn. Plus, back to being a Corsi monster.

    Makes one “wonder” what the problem was in the two intervening years. They sort of look like a 2-year sentence in Azkaban.

  30. Dominoiler says:

    godot10:
    The kid is 18.Let the damn bone heal.The only real risk for this type of injury is re-injury because one didn’t let it fully heal in the first place.

    After the all-star break, please.One month in a twenty-year career does not matter.The Oilers playoffs hope are dependent on how the young defensemen play, not on whether McDavid returns at the earliest possible date.

    Agreed

  31. Woogie63 says:

    Trade Marincin, Trade Petry, Trade Fayne. We are under the cap and have a solid Proven NHL defenceman in Fayne. We will need 8-9 defenceman to get through the year. I see no need to rush a trade on Fayne.

  32. Chachi says:

    I think the Oilers should rush McDavid back into the lineup as quickly as possible. I do not care if the only doctor that will clear him to play is Dr. Vinnie Boombatz, slap some duct tape on that open wound and get him back playing tomorrow if you can. There, now the next time someone complains about anyone wanting to rush him back there will be one actual example to reference.

  33. Sugar Reijo says:

    Pouzar:
    Sidebar: To the Edmontonians on the board, has there been any negative news/rumblingsregarding the new stadium construction? The live view sure looks good. I guess everything is on schedule?

    I’m downtown just about every day and for the most part everything’s gone smoothly. Haven’t heard any negativity except from those who complain about anything and everything.

    Everything’s on schedule and will probably be done by February now that McDavid has a little time off and can’t play XBox. My guess is he’ll redesign it to be 10x better and come in $100 million under budget. The hanging gardens will be a nice touch.

  34. jonrmcleod says:

    You know it is possible for McDavid to heal quickly and also not be rushed back.

  35. neojanus says:

    Woogie63:
    Trade Marincin, Trade Petry, Trade Fayne.We are under the cap and have a solid Proven NHL defenceman in Fayne.We will need 8-9 defenceman to get through the year.I see no need to rush a trade on Fayne.

    I’m inclined to agree with you except that if you can swing Fayne and Purcell to a team looking for playoff depth before the season gets out of hand, you find a better puck moving defenseman, which is what I believe the Oilers will define its blueline as sooner rather than later.

    Fayne brings some nice stuff, but too many plays die on his stick and whether we like it or not, Gryba seems to have more clout with McLellan right now.

  36. Sugar Reijo says:

    Chachi:
    I think the Oilers should rush McDavid back into the lineup as quickly as possible.I do not care if the only doctor that will clear him to play is Dr. Vinnie Boombatz, slap some duct tape on that open wound and get him back playing tomorrow if you can.There, now the next time someone complains about anyone wanting to rush him back there will be one actual example to reference.

    I don’t want to start rumors but have heard that Connor performed the surgery himself. I am happy to defer to his own judgement with respect to recovery.

    *cough*three days*cough*

  37. frjohnk says:

    godot10:
    Under Krueger, Taylor Hall finished 2nd in Western Conference scoring next to Toews in an all Western Conference schedule, and top ten in the league, and looked like the best left winger in the world modulo which wing Ovechkin was playing at the time.Plus, Corsi monster.

    Under McLellan, Taylor Hall is back in the top 5 in league scoring (after 13 games), and looking like the best left winger in the world modulo Ovechkin and Benn. Plus, back to being a Corsi monster.

    Makes one “wonder” what the problem was in the two intervening years. They sort of look like a 2-year sentence in Azkaban.

    Actually in his first year under Eakins, Hall put up 80 points in 75 games. Tied for 6th overall. He was 5th in points per game.

    Last year, injuries affected his play.

    Hall is so good that even by playing for one of the worst coaches in recent NHL history, he was still one of the best offensive forces. I cant wait to see how he does when he becomes more comfortable and familiar with McLellan.

  38. DasBavaria says:

    Pouzar,

    I work at EPCOR Tower (right across the street from Rogers Place) and drive by it almost every day as I have school at MacEwan as well. The construction hasn’t really added too much, it’s a little inconvenient as the traffic on 104 Ave is down to one lane each way but that clears up pretty quick. The biggest annoyance is that Rogers Place kickstarted other projects in downtown Edmonton, but overall? Everything is working out without any major issues.

  39. McSorley33 says:

    RexLibris,

    The really funny thing is, if they stick with Draisaitl at C for the duration of McDavid’s injury rehab, he might just be ready to become a 2C when McDavid gets back.
    ************************************************************************
    Agreed….

    Same thing, for me, with Nurse and Davidson …..lets get them their flying time this year.

  40. Centre of attention says:

    RexLibris:
    There’s something I’ve noticed recently regarding Hall.

    It begins with his conversation with Draisaitl the other day, telling him to stay calm and just play his game.

    Now we’re seeing some very interesting comments from him with all the media about McDavid’s injury.

    The press comments are almost all coming from Chiarelli and Hall. He’s taking it on himself to speak about how the team is going to look out for him during this rehabilitation process. That’s a big damned deal. No player gets McDavid better right now than Hall: star junior, coming from OHL, 1st overall pick, lots of hype (relatively speaking), and now a long-term injury.

    When we speak about players stepping up and filling the void, I’m noticing some pretty impressive steps forward off the ice from Hall in the last month.

    He also has 16 points in 13 games, is a shiny +7, and is fighting for the league lead in shot production

    Hall for Captain.

  41. Sugar Reijo says:

    Centre of attention: Hall for Captain.

    Or OEL ++.

    I kid! I kid! So happy with Hallsy this year.

  42. godot10 says:

    frjohnk: Actually in his first year under Eakins, Hall put up 80 points in 75 games.Tied for 6th overall.He was 5th in points per game.

    Last year, injuries affected his play.

    Hall is so good that even by playing for one of the worst coaches in recent NHL history, he was still one of the best offensive forces.I cant wait to see how he does when he becomes more comfortable and familiar with McLellan.

    But Hall’s first year under Eakins was a statistical outlier boxcar wise. He had more points than there were goals scored while he was on the ice…that is IPP(?) of over 100%. i.e. he had an outlier year points wise, disguising the fact that he was lousy. His Corsi sucked. Dellow had a post about it (about Hall was dumping the puck in) before Dellow was sucked into the dementor’s vortex.

    i.e. The boxcars were unconfirmed by the advanced stats.

    Under Krueger and McLellan, the boxcars were confirmed by the advanced stats.

  43. Pouzar says:

    jonrmcleod:
    You know it is possible for McDavid to heal quickly and also not be rushed back.

    Jon…it has to be a minimum 12 weeks. NO MATTER WHAT!

  44. Johnny skid says:

    jonrmcleod:
    You know it is possible for McDavid to heal quickly and also not be rushed back.

    not to mention we have a management team that makes good decisions unlike the prior group.

  45. Sugar Reijo says:

    Pouzar: Jon…it has to be a minimum 12 weeks. NO MATTER WHAT!

    On Hockeycentral at Noon Dr. Kypreos said the Oilers should shut him down for the season, regardless. Said his future’s too important to risk any time back.

    I assume that by ‘his future’ he meant when Connor inevitably demands a trade to the Leafs.

  46. delooper says:

    Sugar Reijo: On Hockeycentral at Noon Dr. Kypreos said the Oilers should shut him down for the year, regardless. Said his future’s too important to risk any time back this season.

    I assume that by ‘his future’ he meant when Connor inevitably demands a trade to the Leafs.

    If McDavid gets a sprained ankle Kypreos would demand McDavid retires, I imagine.

  47. Eastern Oil says:

    Sugar Reijo,

    One, would they even be allowed to do that if he’s been cleared to play? You have to activate him at some point, so do you make him a healthy scratch for 30-40 games?

    Two, if it was a clean break and will heal nice and strong, what else are you doing for the injury with an additional 8 months (until next season)?

    Nick’s been better on the broadcasts this year but this doesn’t make any sense.

  48. frjohnk says:

    godot10: But Hall’s first year under Eakins was a statistical outlier boxcar wise.He had more points than there were goals scored while he was on the ice…that is IPP(?) of over 100%.i.e. he had an outlier year points wise, disguising the fact that he was lousy.His Corsi sucked.Dellow had a post about it (about Hall was dumping the puck in) before Dellow was sucked into the dementor’s vortex.

    i.e. The boxcars were unconfirmed by the advanced stats.

    Under Krueger and McLellan, the boxcars were confirmed by the advanced stats.

    Yeah, his corsi may have been lower at 44%, but his scoring chances for was at 52%. He was creating 3.43 individual chances per game that year. Not far from the 3.67 the year before.

    Im not arguing that Eakins was a bad coach, cuz he was. What Im arguing is that a healthy Hall still was a beast INSPITE of Eakins. That is how good Hall is. Few players in the league would have pushed the play and put up the numbers Hall did if they had Eakins as coach.

  49. blainer says:

    RexLibris:
    Discussion this morning about Hall – Draisaitl – Yakupov as a line.

    We’ve discussed Yakupov working well with McDavid and that Hall/McDavid didn’t work because they both like to carry the puck through the NZ.

    Also that Yakupov is playing well because he isn’t carrying the puck through the NZ, but working on the boards and going to the net.

    So, if Yakupov can pass to Hall in the DZ, then help control along the boards when Hall passes it in there (because he gets closed off by defenders), he and Draisaitl can help establish a passing/cycling game down low with Hall.

    I think that line has some merit. And it keeps coaches deciding between Nugent-Hopkins/Eberle and Hall/Yakupov.

    The really funny thing is, if they stick with Draisaitl at C for the duration of McDavid’s injury rehab, he might just be ready to become a 2C when McDavid gets back.

    That bumps one of Lander or Letestu down unless the move Draisatil back to the wing.

    Opportunities abound. Now we just have to wait for all the doors to slam in our faces BecauseOilers.

    Agreed. In a perfect world Drai stays at a point per game pace and a min of 52% on the dot and at the same time having great possession numbers.. Now that would be a real treat to have when CMD returns..

    Oh and for an early Xmas gift I would like a 920% save percentage.. Also while I’m at it Santa .. I would like to add to my list..

    1. HEALTHY top six and top four at least..

    2. an ALMOST season ending injury to Ference but nothing too serious but just enough to put him on the LTIR as he does need a buyout (don’t want to sound like a too much of an ass).

    3.Really Really good possession by the D whether they are yound old or new.

    4. Also Did I mention goaltending?

  50. Sugar Reijo says:

    delooper: If McDavid gets a sprained ankle Kypreos would demand McDavid retires, I imagine.

    Uh, that’s *Dr* Kypreos. He did not spend umpteen years on a hockey panel to be called just Kypreos, thank you very much.

  51. sliderule says:

    The goalies will be fine when they consistently produce a save percentage above .915.

    Until they do that they are a major problem

  52. Pouzar says:

    Great convo Woodguy/LT.

  53. Nate780 says:

    Sugar Reijo,

    Sugar Reijo: On Hockeycentral at Noon Dr. Kypreos said the Oilers should shut him down for the season, regardless. Said his future’s too important to risk any time back.I assume that by ‘his future’ he meant when Connor inevitably demands a trade to the Leafs.

    Kypreos is an idiot

  54. Eastern Oil says:

    blainer,

    You forgot goaltending.

    Oh no, wait, you said it. My fault.

    I would only add (and purely from an superficial Oilers fan point of view):

    5. Recognition for RNH and/or Hall by the national media for how good of hockey players they are.

  55. Johnny skid says:

    sliderule:
    The goalies will be fine when they consistently produce a save percentage above .915.

    Until they do that they are a major problem

    good defence will improve our goaltenders save percentage beyond your chosen .915

  56. Nate780 says:

    sliderule,

    sliderule: The goalies will be fine when they consistently produce a save percentage above .915.Until they do that they are a major problem

    This. We’re just getting more of the same. Good goalies have decent to good save percentages on bad teams, their GAA is what suffers. I don’t understand the Talbot love, he’s been Scrivens 2.0

  57. Nate780 says:

    Johnny skid,

    Johnny skid: good defence will improve our goaltenders save percentage beyond your chosen .915

    No, it won’t.

  58. Dicky94 says:

    Not sure if anyone has suggested it ,but would anyone want Sam Gagner back right now. Wouldn’t cost too much to acquire I wouldn’t think. Fill that role nicely until McDavid gets back. Only if the Lander Drai experiment doesn’t produce any offence. We will know more by Monday.

  59. vinotintazo says:

    Dicky94,

    no thx

  60. frjohnk says:

    Woodguy . I’m posting this here as I don’t twit.

    Here are the Shots per 60 from the low, medium and high danger locations for the Oilers. League average in ()

    All situations

    LD 12.92 (12.87)
    MD 8.12 (8.28)
    HD 8.05 (8.25)

    Shooting % for oiler shots from those areas. League average in ()
    LD 2.4% (3.2%)
    MD 6.7% (8.2%)
    HD 21.2% (17.4%)

    Shots per 60
    LD 12.92 (12.87)
    MD 8.12 (8.28)
    HD 8.05 (8.25)

  61. Water Fire says:

    RexLibris: u

    Good points. McLellan talked about Leon and wing and TOI. Most teams run the top 6 a lot, it seems McLellan does, so if you have world class players you are going to play them in the top 6 to have them on the ice as much as possible.

    Leon is better suited for wing than RNH and McDavid. I can see them using him for draws or possibly like Kurri taking on defensive zone responsibilities perhaps if he plays with McDavid.

    So three scoring lines would probably be based on either vets with some offense, which isn’t working right now, or young guys not on the team right now pushing vets to the 4th line.

  62. blainer says:

    Johnny skid: good defence will improve our goaltenders save percentage beyond your chosen .915

    Indeed. Any idea’s where we can find some of that defense?

  63. blainer says:

    Dicky94:
    Not sure if anyone has suggested it ,but would anyone want Sam Gagner back right now.Wouldn’t cost too much to acquire I wouldn’t think. Fill that role nicely until McDavid gets back. Only if the Lander Drai experiment doesn’t produce any offence. We will know more by Monday.

    NO!!

  64. vinotintazo says:

    Hall-Drai-Ebs
    Pou-Nuge-Yak
    Hend-Letestu-Purcell
    Pak-Lander-Miller

    as per Oilers.

  65. RexLibris says:

    Pouzar: Now if he would have permanently embedded his stick up Gudas’ a$$ we’d have Messier 2.0

    Rex Codex Libris ‏@CodexRex 1h1 hour ago

    Hey Connor, you gotta see this! https://youtu.be/mEgp-URw070

  66. Adam Wu says:

    I recall that they did an analysis of Krueger’s systems over at CoppernBlue that year, and what they found was that Hall was not following the system. Whatever the other forwards were doing, Hall did not seem to be doing the same – he was just out there doing whatever he thought was best, and Krueger was apparently letting him, so long as he was producing results.

    Which suggests that Hall isn’t one to blindly follow a coach’s systems if he thinks he won’t be effective in it, even for a coach that he, by all reports, really liked.

    Which is something to consider when evaluating Hall’s performances under Eakins. Hall wasn’t browbeaten into following a system he did not like. He bought in.

  67. lynn says:

    vinotintazo:
    Hall-Drai-Ebs
    Pou-Nuge-Yak
    Hend-Letestu-Purcell
    Pak-Lander-Miller

    as per Oilers.

    Is Andrew Miller the right fit for fourth-line winger?

  68. dustrock says:

    vinotintazo: Hall-Drai-EbsPou-Nuge-YakHend-Letestu-PurcellPak-Lander-Miller as per Oilers.

    Ehhhh I can’t really fault this. Not convinced Hall-Drai-Eberle will last, but fingers crossed. Hall has looked All-World the last few games, but I think RNH did a lot of the heavy lifting, and Draisaitl mostly went to the net with his stick on the ice.

    As big a Draisaitl fan as I am, this is going to be a huge test for him. He’s matched up against Crosby or Malkin. World-class players.

  69. Johnny skid says:

    blainer: Indeed. Any idea’s where we can find some of that defense?

    some is already here just inexperienced and the rest will more than likely arrive when some of the dead weight is off the books.

  70. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy Retweeted
    Reid Wilkins ‏@ReidWilkins 27m27 minutes ago

    D:
    Nurse-Sekera
    Klefbom-Davidson
    Reinhart-Gryba
    Ference-Fayne

    Some logic there. I like that top four.

  71. blainer says:

    vinotintazo:
    Hall-Drai-Ebs
    Pou-Nuge-Yak
    Hend-Letestu-Purcell
    Pak-Lander-Miller

    as per Oilers.

    Ahhh.. makes sense. Nuge and Poo will make Yak look a lot better in the D zone.. Nuge should compliment the NEW yak just fine hopefully !!

    Now about that goaltending.. does the league check on the goalies for performance enhancement drugs? I think a call to Roger Clemens may be in order.. just kidding.. I think..lol

  72. frjohnk says:

    RexLibris:
    Woodguy Retweeted
    Reid Wilkins ‏@ReidWilkins 27m27 minutes ago

    D:
    Nurse-Sekera
    Klefbom-Davidson
    Reinhart-Gryba
    Ference-Fayne

    Some logic there. I like that top four.

    Understand McLellan does not want to change a winning lineup but that will mean
    Fayne is going to be scratched for the 3rd straight game.

  73. Water Fire says:

    frjohnk: Understand McLellan does not want to change a winning lineup but that will mean
    Fayne is going to be scratched for the 3rd straight game.

    They have had success so he has to play his way in at practice or somebody other than Gryba has to have a rough game.

  74. Centre of attention says:

    I think if Gryba has another “Smash Sam Bennet in the face and take a ridiculous penalty late in a tied game” moment that is when we see Fayne.

    OR

    Fayne gets traded this weekend.

  75. Johnny skid says:

    Centre of attention:
    I think if Gryba has another “Smash Sam Bennet in the face and take a ridiculous penalty late in a tied game” moment that is when we see Fayne.

    OR

    Fayne gets traded this weekend.

    smash sam bennet in the face is a good thing all day every day.

  76. Water Fire says:

    Centre of attention:
    I think if Gryba has another “Smash Sam Bennet in the face and take a ridiculous penalty late in a tied game” moment that is when we see Fayne.

    OR

    Fayne gets traded this weekend.

    Maybe Gryba gets traded and Chia surprises us all.

  77. RexLibris says:

    Doing some preliminary work for the RE updates and checked McDavid’s stats.

    His sh% per the Oilers website was 20.8%.

    That’s…impressive.

  78. RexLibris says:

    Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 1m1 minute ago

    “They’re two very skilled guys. I change my position but I don’t think I have to change my game.” @Drat_29 on skating with Hall & Ebs

    I’m not saying it’ll be easy, but we’re putting a top prospect a year removed from his draft day and following a WHL MVP award between two All Star forwards…and us fans are saying that this isn’t sufficient.

    I know we miss McDavid, but this is the right call.

  79. leadfarmer says:

    Pouzar,

    This comment makes no sense. When it’s healed it’s healed. Saying that he has too sit out for 12 weeks if it’s healed in 9 is silly. He will know when it feels good and they’ll be able to tell with X-rays if the bone has healed. Him and his doctor will decide when he will return not some random time frame.

  80. HeatTreaterJoe says:

    RexLibris,

    I got to attend the Tuesday game live, but have been too busy to make any comments from the live viewing. Here goes:
    – McDavid really looks faster than anyone else on the ice. It was surprising more than anything.
    – McDavid’s fall (from my perspective in area 236) really didn’t look dirty; just horribly unfortunate.
    – The Hall / Nuge / Drai line was absolutely dominant. Drai looked tremendous (and huge). When I focused in on him, his skating looked slow and awkward, but when I tried to compare his speed with others nearby, he didn’t seem to have any issues at all keeping up
    – Yak is feisty, which is great to see. He was hit late at one point by the Philly D (when neither had the puck); Yak turned around and slammed into him. It’s nice to see.
    – The Oilers put LOTS of shots on net (obviously) but most of them seemed to be direct shots (nobody in between or screening the goalie) and the Philly goalie really didn’t seem to have any trouble at all stopping most of them. We could benefit by having someone in the Ryan Smyth role (Lander?).
    – My favourite Lander moment was when McDavid was guarding the Philly goalie who was covering the puck while outside his crease. Lander snuck up behind and took some swipes with his stick.
    – The defense pairings all looked… good? Certainly much better than I had seen earlier in the season (or seasons past). Davidson has some good push back and was a nice surprise.. hope he keeps earning more ice time. Pairings all look good to my eye. Sekera looked downright short next to Nurse.

  81. Eastern Oil says:

    HeatTreaterJoe,

    Great stuff, thank you very much for this. It’s always great to hear about live viewings.

  82. jonrmcleod says:

    leadfarmer,

    I assumed it was sarcasm.

  83. RexLibris says:

    HeatTreaterJoe,

    Great stuff, thanks.

    Despite our love of the numbers, getting eyes on the game is always very informative.

  84. RexLibris says:

    Speaking of seeing the game live, I always remember Henrik Samuelsson in his last OK season.

    He was tussling with a player behind the opp. goal and they skated to the bench on a line change, the other guy yelling at Henrik.

    As they part, Henrik ties his stick up with the opponent and gives it a little flick of the wrist. Opp.’s stick goes flying onto the ice and the guy has to get off or he’ll be 6th man on and team takes a penalty.

    Henrik sits down and turns to his buddy to discuss the weather while the opp. is screaming bloody murder at Henrik, the ref, and anyone who’ll listen.

    Pure dirty, snake in the grass, kind of play. Sure enough, next opp.’s shift, he takes a bad penalty.

    I wonder if Linesman is Henrik Samuelsson’s god-father?

  85. LadiesloveSmid says:

    RexLibris:
    Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 1m1 minute ago

    “They’re two very skilled guys. I change my position but I don’t think I have to change my game.” @Drat_29 on skating with Hall & Ebs

    I’m not saying it’ll be easy, but we’re putting a top prospect a year removed from his draft day and following a WHL MVP award between two All Star forwards…and us fans are saying that this isn’t sufficient.

    I know we miss McDavid, but this is the right call.

    RNH and Yak have been pretty piss poor together in the past. RNH takes top assignments and is the best centre on the team at doing so. Yak can’t keep up there.

    I’d put the old top line back together, Hall-RNH-Eberle

    play Pou-Drai-Yak in the softs

  86. Royals win NBA says:

    We need one more win in November to tie last November. If we can’t beat that this month something must be seriously wrong with this club. But honestly if things keep going the way they are the Oil may have a shot at Playoffs, right now they are 2 points back granted the Sharks have a game in hand. However I think its fair to say Arizona won’t keep up their level of play. And if we can pass the sharks we are in playoff position in the weak Pacific division this year. Oilers have to take advantage of Calgary and Anaheim’s horrendous starts and make something special out of this year

  87. blainer says:

    leadfarmer:
    Pouzar,

    This comment makes no sense.When it’s healed it’s healed.Saying that he has too sit out for 12 weeks if it’s healed in 9 is silly.He will know when it feels good and they’ll be able to tell with X-rays if the bone has healed.Him and his doctor will decide when he will return not some random time frame.

    I dunno about that.. Pouzar might be right.We really don’t need Another player playing with a screw loose !!

  88. russ99 says:

    Kind of bummed they split the #1 line up, but I think they’re more worried about losing Yak than Drai’s effectiveness decreasing due to added center responsibilities.

    Also we’re playing Pittsburgh, more of a shinny-style opponent. If we were playing in Nashville or LA, I suspect it would be different.

  89. G Money says:

    Some of you have heard me mention in the past that one of my former employees (and friend) worked on the side as an MBA advisor at Queens.

    It was a source of great amusement for both of us that he ended up being Craig Mactavish’s MBA advisor. Amusing because Sean was a born and bred Calgarian, and a huge Flames fan. As another random side note, his son was officially Calgary’s 1,000,000th citizen.

    Sean passed away of a heart attack yesterday.

    He was four years younger than I am.

    I am just in shock today.

  90. Yak Efron says:

    G Money,
    My condolences. Every day is precious.

  91. HeatTreaterJoe says:

    RexLibris,

    RexLibris and Eastern Oil: Thanks for the comments. I really don’t get a chance to attend many games, so I probably focus more on the numbers than I should. That having been said, thanks to the commenters here (and especially Lowetide) for helping me better understand the game. Compared to the last game I attended live a few years ago, I feel that I now notice and appreciate so much more.

  92. blainer says:

    G Money:
    Some of you have heard me mention in the past that one of my former employees (and friend) worked on the side as an MBA advisor at Queens.

    It was a source of great amusement for both of us that he ended up being Craig Mactavish’s MBA advisor.Amusing because Sean was a born and bred Calgarian, and a huge Flames fan.As another random side note, his son was officially Calgary’s 1,000,000th citizen.

    Sean passed away of a heart attack yesterday.

    He was four years younger than I am.

    I am just in shock today.

    Sorry to hear G.. Lost a great friend at the age of 48.. also from a heart attack. Your story about the MBA at queens was very interesting to me as my son is also attending Queens and doing his MBA.

  93. Sugar Reijo says:

    G Money,
    So sorry to hear that, GMoney.

  94. Henry says:

    G, I’m very sorry that you’ve lost your friend. It is a terrible shame.

  95. dustrock says:

    G Money: Some of you have heard me mention in the past that one of my former employees (and friend) worked on the side as an MBA advisor at Queens.It was a source of great amusement for both of us that he ended up being Craig Mactavish’s MBA advisor. Amusing because Sean was a born and bred Calgarian, and a huge Flames fan. As another random side note, his son was officially Calgary’s 1,000,000th citizen.Sean passed away of a heart attack yesterday.He was four years younger than I am.I am just in shock today.

    Sorry to hear that G. My condolences.

  96. Lowetide says:

    G Money:
    Some of you have heard me mention in the past that one of my former employees (and friend) worked on the side as an MBA advisor at Queens.

    It was a source of great amusement for both of us that he ended up being Craig Mactavish’s MBA advisor.Amusing because Sean was a born and bred Calgarian, and a huge Flames fan.As another random side note, his son was officially Calgary’s 1,000,000th citizen.

    Sean passed away of a heart attack yesterday.

    He was four years younger than I am.

    I am just in shock today.

    So very sorry, G. That’s just a terrible blow.

  97. Snowman says:

    G Money,

    Sorry for your loss G. Always a tough day when you lose a friend.

  98. Doug McLachlan says:

    G Money,

    So sorry to hear of your loss.

  99. Bruce McCurdy says:

    G Money,

    Condolences to you, G. That’s a tough one.

  100. Eastern Oil says:

    G Money,

    My condolences. I am sure we have all, or known someone who has, lost someone due to heart disease. It is something that has reared it’s ugly head in my family. Great grandpa dead at 54, grandpa dead at 54 and father just survived at 53, 11 months due to modern medicine.

    Receiving the phone calls, and then ultimately the good news re: my dad, hits you like an absolute ton of bricks.

    Hug your family, call your parents, be kind to a stranger, we never know.

  101. Drew says:

    G Money,

    Condolences for your loss

  102. Woodguy says:

    My condolences G.

  103. Pouzar says:

    jonrmcleod:
    leadfarmer,

    I assumed it was sarcasm.

    it was. Forgot my sarcasm tag!

  104. Pouzar says:

    G Money:
    Some of you have heard me mention in the past that one of my former employees (and friend) worked on the side as an MBA advisor at Queens.

    It was a source of great amusement for both of us that he ended up being Craig Mactavish’s MBA advisor.Amusing because Sean was a born and bred Calgarian, and a huge Flames fan.As another random side note, his son was officially Calgary’s 1,000,000th citizen.

    Sean passed away of a heart attack yesterday.

    He was four years younger than I am.

    I am just in shock today.

    Just terrible. My condolences.

  105. meanashell11 says:

    G Money,

    Sorry to hear this G. My father died at 52 from a heart attack. I was away at McGill. My future wife never got to meet him. I am now older than he was when he died, that 52nd year could not pass quickly enough. My wife and kids make fun of me about my philosophy of never going to bed upset at someone, well my philosophy is based on never wanting to have regrets I let something stupid get in the way of a friendship or love of my wife in case anything were to ever happen. I guess until it happens close to you that is hard to get…..

  106. Lowetide says:

    Updated Translation Factors: .80 KHL .60 SHL .47 AHL .41 NCHC .40 NLA .39 ECAC .36 Big-10 .33 CCHA .32 OHL .29 H-East, Fin .27 WHL .26 QMJHL

    That’s from Vollman. The OHL is leaving the two other junior leagues behind. Interesting aspect as we get closer to talking about the draft.

  107. Woodguy says:

    McLellan’s choice with RNH is interesting.

    I’m going to assume he keeps sending RNH against the best and RNH will usually have Sekera behind him.

    That means the opposing coach will have to send his 2nd best or checking line vs Hall and put his top Dmen there.

    Certainly made the choice to spread the opposition out, but only if he still sends RNH vs the best.

    I didn’t expect Yak to go with RNH.

    Maybe he’s giving Eberle some games to get to speed before seeing the best opposition forwards?

    Maybe he trusts Yak do it ? (wingers are the least of that equation although they do help)

    Lots to see here and many questions for sure.

    I expect a lot of Klef-Davidson behind Hall as well.

  108. stephen sheps says:

    lynn: Is Andrew Miller the right fit for fourth-line winger?

    yes, absolutely. If I’m not mistaken, the current 4 line, pak-lander-miller was the 1 line in OKC under Nelson for a while last year. Pouzar, as our most regular Barons viewer from last season, can you confirm?

    No matter what, I think that’s a great 4th line of the “kid line”/”energy line” variety, especially from the familiarity the players have with each other.

  109. stephen sheps says:

    G Money,

    my deepest condolences, G.

    heart disease is an absolute bastard – lost my dad to a heart attack out of nowhere when he was only 58 (and I was barely 21). I can only imagine how you’re feeling today, to say nothing of your friend’s family. I wish you a lot of strength (which is what my Rabbi said to me, constantly, while I was in mourning – seemed like the right words at the time)

  110. delooper says:

    vinotintazo:
    Hall-Drai-Ebs
    Pou-Nuge-Yak
    Hend-Letestu-Purcell
    Pak-Lander-Miller

    as per Oilers.

    Neat. McLellan is committed to keeping Yak’s line running, even without McDavid. If this keeps Yak productive, that would be great.

  111. leadfarmer says:

    Pouzar,

    Well my apologies. It’s hard to tell who’s being sarcastic and who is not when people out there are saying the same things sarcastically and seriously.

  112. Pouzar says:

    stephen sheps: yes, absolutely. If I’m not mistaken, the current 4 line, pak-lander-miller was the 1 line in OKC under Nelson for a while last year. Pouzar, as our most regular Barons viewer from last season, can you confirm?
    No matter what, I think that’s a great 4th line of the “kid line”/”energy line” variety, especially from the familiarity the players have with each other.

    Yes that line was a thing…a beautiful thing. I like that line a lot speed and skill on the wings.
    When Lander was promoted Yak2 was inserted and they didn’t miss a beat.
    Actually Miller replaced Lander as the AHL All Star game after Lander’s called up

  113. blainer says:

    stephen sheps: yes, absolutely. If I’m not mistaken, the current 4 line, pak-lander-miller was the 1 line in OKC under Nelson for a while last year. Pouzar, as our most regular Barons viewer from last season, can you confirm?

    No matter what, I think that’s a great 4th line of the “kid line”/”energy line” variety, especially from the familiarity the players have with each other.

    I also watched a lot last year and can say that when Pak and Yak2 went down to injury it really hurt. A lot of the players also confirmed this. This should be a decent 4 line. Miller played well down and up last year but to me he is another version of Arco.

  114. leadfarmer says:

    delooper,

    Yeah they really need to be more than a one line team.

    Doesn’t look like Mclellan has much faith in Belander given that he lost the 3rd line job to Letestu.

  115. blainer says:

    leadfarmer:
    delooper,

    Yeah they really need to be more than a one line team.

    Doesn’t look like Mclellan has much faith in Belander given that he lost the 3rd line job to Letestu.

    Ha !! BeLander haven’t heard that one yet .. good one.. lets hope he gets better.. If he got back to what he was doing last year ie Ryan Smyth he might actually do Ok..

    Oh and I can be one of those sarcastic types .. Just trying to lighten things up sometimes.

  116. stephen sheps says:

    Pouzar: Yes that line was a thing…a beautiful thing. I like that line a lot speed and skill on the wings.
    When Lander was promoted Yak2 was inserted and they didn’t miss a beat.
    Actually Miller replaced Lander as the AHL All Star game after Lander’s called up

    I’m glad my memory wasn’t playing tricks on me. Excited to see what that line can do at the NHL level. I thought they ripped it up in the A. Smart lineup decisions by McLellan here.

    I really like the way he’s set up the top two lines, and agree with some of the other posters above – It makes sense to give Drai the best possible chance to thrive back in the middle and continue to build on the obvious chemistry he’s developing with Hall, while Yak gets the perfect opportunity to show that his season with McDavid hasn’t just been the McDavid effect alone.

    Good coaching. Wow. Who’da thought?!

  117. russ99 says:

    Hend-Letestu-Purcell
    Pak-Lander-Miller

    I really like that bottom six, seems the closest in years to the optimal bottom six setup of a 2-way defensively responsible checking line and a young energy line.

    G: Condolences. Losing someone close that suddenly is real tough.

  118. RexLibris says:

    As an aside, I have it on good authority that if the Flames lose to the Flyers tonight it will officially be the worst start in franchise history, eclipsing the previous start by the 95-96 team.

    Safe to say there’ll be some Flyers fans in Edmonton tonight?

  119. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide:
    Updated Translation Factors: .80 KHL .60 SHL .47 AHL .41 NCHC .40 NLA .39 ECAC .36 Big-10 .33 CCHA .32 OHL .29 H-East, Fin .27 WHL .26 QMJHL

    That’s from Vollman. The OHL is leaving the two other junior leagues behind. Interesting aspect as we get closer to talking about the draft.

    OHL has left the other two leagues in the dust?

    Hmm, BecauseMcDavid? It could be a thing.

  120. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide,

    If you aren’t following Awful Fantasy on Twitter yet, they have updated the Choose Your Own Adventure.

    We escaped the Demon Chef and must now decide the next course of action.

    People, listen! This is what twitter was invented for!

  121. Snowman says:

    RexLibris,

    I’ve got my Nick Schultz Flyers Jersey out of the frame and I wore it to work today.

  122. kinger_OIL says:

    – I do recall that story, and you were “careful” as you should be with what parts you shared

    – Awful news, and I hope his family is able to cope

  123. Eulers says:

    What is God’s name did Fayne say to get in the doghouse beyond one game? Must have repeated Marincin’s line from last year…

    Oiler’s D-deployment is like the Republican race: up is down and down is up!

    (posted on ON, but the Marincin thing is more an in-joke on LT!)

  124. vishcosity says:

    Pouzar:
    Sidebar: To the Edmontonians on the board, has there been any negative news/rumblingsregarding the new stadium construction? The live view sure looks good. I guess everything is on schedule?

    $600M + at compound interest + the largest currency outflow in the world (yes Canada, you) = what, me worry?

    What happens if city hall decides the wellness of the people is more important for their increasingly limited cash flow than paying the lenders and defaults on the loan? Surely there is one of you jackals willing to turn on the masters and work to keep the banks from seizing the city’s income? Anyone? Bueller?

  125. Chachi says:

    vishcosity,

    The short answer would be that property taxes would increase to cover the shortfall.

  126. RexLibris says:

    Snowman:
    RexLibris,

    I’ve got my Nick Schultz Flyers Jersey out of the frame and I wore it to work today.

    Should be interesting.

    The Oilers threw everything but the kitchen sink at Neuvirth last game and he damn near stole a game.

    The Flames have had some…possession problems this season.

  127. ruotsalainen says:

    Eulers:
    What is God’s name did Fayne say to get in the doghouse beyond one game? Must have repeated Marincin’s line from last year…

    Sideburns. It’s his sideburns.

  128. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Snowman:
    RexLibris,

    I’ve got my Nick Schultz Flyers Jersey out of the frame and I wore it to work today.

    No emoticon or tag, but my sarcasmometer just hit 11.

  129. frjohnk says:

    G Money,

    Sorry to hear that man.

  130. oliveoilers says:

    Bruce McCurdy: No emoticon or tag, but my sarcasmometer just hit 11.

    Wow, a sarcasmometer. That sounds like a useful invention. :-/

  131. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    G Money,

    I’m very sorry, G. Thoughts with you and with your friend’s family. I lost my dad suddenly to that when I was 19 as well. I hope that his family gets the support they need.

  132. jonrmcleod says:

    RexLibris,

    My second favourite team to watch now is the Flames. 🙂

  133. Cameron says:

    RexLibris:
    Too late I realized that perhaps the best LT beauty for the article yesterday could have been Isabella Rosellini circa “The Saddest Music in the World”.

    From imdb:

    Sounds very…Edmonton-ish.

    Worse, Guy Maddin (the director) is from Winnipeg.

    That said, the movie is almost halucinatory in it’s look.
    And Rossellini is excellent.

    Also, Riggs looks a litlle different now in her role on Game of Thrones (though she is utterly marvelous)

  134. Water Fire says:

    G Money:
    Some of you have heard me mention in the past that one of my former employees (and friend) worked on the side as an MBA advisor at Queens.

    It was a source of great amusement for both of us that he ended up being Craig Mactavish’s MBA advisor.Amusing because Sean was a born and bred Calgarian, and a huge Flames fan.As another random side note, his son was officially Calgary’s 1,000,000th citizen.

    Sean passed away of a heart attack yesterday.

    He was four years younger than I am.

    I am just in shock today.

    Thoughts are with you

  135. frjohnk says:

    jonrmcleod:
    RexLibris,

    My second favourite team to watch now is the Flames.

    Personally, I cheer for two teams.
    The Oilers
    and any team that plays against the Flames.

  136. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    frjohnk: Personally, I cheer for two teams.
    The Oilers
    and any team that plays against the Flames.

    Four teams for me: Oilers first, any team that plays the Flames second, any team that plays the Canucks third, and any team that plays the Leafs fourth.

    When the Flames and Canucks play I just hope for a meteor to hit the ice (with no one hurt, of course), but just to make the game impossible to play.

  137. godot10 says:

    vishcosity: $600M + at compound interest + the largest currency outflow in the world (yes Canada, you) = what, me worry?

    What happens if city hall decides the wellness of the people is more important for their increasingly limited cash flow than paying the lenders and defaults on the loan?Surely there is one of you jackals willing to turn on the masters and work to keep the banks from seizing the city’s income?Anyone?Bueller?

    There is over twice the amount of investment in downtown over the billion promised (that the critics of the arena deal said was overly optimistic). Reportedly, there is over $2 billion dollars of development committed in Edmonton’s downtown.

    Coming at the precise time of the oil crash, where it could not be more opportune to the general economy of the greater Edmonton region.

    Arguably, the Edmonton downtown is close to a tipping point where the investment will start a positive feedback loop.

    And development in the downtown is much more tax efficient for the city than expensive sprawled subdivisions development. No new roads or utilities. Better utilization of public transit. Gentrification of the inner “slums”.

    The arena district bet is one that is going to turn out really well. Just wait till the suburban businesses begin flocking back downtown as they are doing in the bigger cities across North America.

    Jumpstarting the inversion from the suburban wasteland focus of the city to building a vibrant core was the right thing to do at the right time.

    A financially successful city needs a vibrant core for long term sustainability. You can choose to become Pittsburgh or you can choose to become Detroit.

  138. GCW_69 says:

    G Money:
    Some of you have heard me mention in the past that one of my former employees (and friend) worked on the side as an MBA advisor at Queens.

    It was a source of great amusement for both of us that he ended up being Craig Mactavish’s MBA advisor.Amusing because Sean was a born and bred Calgarian, and a huge Flames fan.As another random side note, his son was officially Calgary’s 1,000,000th citizen.

    Sean passed away of a heart attack yesterday.

    He was four years younger than I am.

    I am just in shock today.

    My condolences.

  139. delooper says:

    godot10,

    Is the impact being felt yet? One block north from the new arena is “little Somalia”. Rents look pretty cheap there.

    I visited Edmonton in the summer and had dinner (twice) at the African Safari restaurant. It’s a Somali-Kenyan restaurant. It is quite nice. You can see the new arena going up while eating dinner.

  140. Bank Shot says:

    delooper:
    godot10,

    Is the impact being felt yet?One block north from the new arena is “little Somalia”.Rents look pretty cheap there.

    I visited Edmonton in the summer and had dinner (twice) at the African Safari restaurant.It’s a Somali-Kenyan restaurant.It is quite nice. You can see the new arena going up while eating dinner.

    They serve good camel there.

    There used to be a handful of old, cheap condos for sale in the couple of blocks north of the new arena. Those are all gone now, and whenever a new one gets listed it seems to get snapped up right away.

    I’m not sure what’s going to happen to that area but something is clearly going on.

  141. Chachi says:

    godot10,

    Nicely said.

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