G19 2015-16: BLACKHAWKS AT OILERS

At 6-12-0 and now alone at No. 30 in the league standings, the Edmonton Oilers once again stand at the foot of the ‘TURN NORTH” sign. It’s the same corner they saw in the early days of Laddy Smid’s career, in November of Sam Gagner’s rookie season, in January of 2010 when Daryl Katz uttered ‘rebuild’ and it was heard as ‘dive!’, and on it goes.

The Oilers have a few veterans who will be coming back soon, Korpikoski is close and Justin Schultz isn’t far away, either. I think we have tonight’s lineup surrounded.

PROJECTED LINEUP (NOT CONFIRMED)

  • Hall—Draisaitl—Purcell
  • Pouliot—Nuge—Eberle
  • Hendricks—Letestu—Yakupov
  • Korpikoski—Lander—Pakarinen
  • Nurse—Sekera
  • Klefbom—Fayne
  • Davidson—Gryba
  • Nilsson

Despite Connor McDavid’s injury, those are two solid offensive lines and could be good possession trios of note. Purcell makes smart plays all over the ice (his issue is speed, not smarts) and Leon is going all Jean Beliveau on people’s ass of late. If Jordan Eberle can play at his normal level, we could see some firepower at evens from this group. Yakupov’s offense probably comes on the power play tonight, if it comes. I’m not sure Anton Lander even makes the lineup, although I’ve listed him here over Andrew Miller.

The top two pairings look set, still wonder about that third duo. Davidson is the one guy in this group I think most of us want to see a little more, so that’s not a bad thing. For the amount McLellan rolls that 4line, I wonder if they should just dress 7D.

CAM TALBOT

  • “I’m making some big saves through games, then it’s that one mental lapse that costs us a goal. As a goalie that’s the worst possible thing, letting your team down that way. You can make as many good saves as you want but people are always going to remember the one that went in. That’s the nature of the position and I feel worse than anybody about that.” Source.

Anders Nilsson gets the start tonight based on reports, but I think Talbot is the goalie to watch this season. Edmonton needs a goalie who can play 50 games a season and make his mark as a clear No. 1 (Nilsson or Laurent Brossoit might be the backup beginning next season). This is important because Peter Chiarelli needs to solve some of the problems on this roster in 2015-16, allowing him to drill down on one or two issues next summer. He added Talbot, Nilsson, Andrej Sekera, Griffin Reinhart, Eric Gryba, Mark Letestu and Lauri Korpikoski last summer—some of those bets need to pay off for Edmonton this season.

ABOUT LEON

  • Elliotte Friedman: Apparently, Draisaitl had somewhat of an epic meeting when told he was going to AHL Bakersfield at the start of the season. He let the Oilers know how upset he was, but wouldn’t specifically go into what was said. “I was really disappointed…being the last guy cut was hard for me to take,” he admitted. “It took about a week to get over that and it showed in the way I played. Then you think, ‘This might be good for me, working on weaknesses.’ My mind changed.” Source

Great story. Unlike Darnell Nurse, who many of us felt would be one of the six best (easily) Oilers defensemen, Leon’s rookie season made it less obvious he would slide in and perform:

  • Where do you project him to play? I have Leon scorching Bakersfield’s grapes (tried to work wrath in there but can’t make it work) for the first half of the season and then coming to the NHL to play LW with Lander and Yakupov. Source

Well, you can’t get more accurate than that! One thing that’s true: Chiarelli and McLellan didn’t have a handle on Leon (or Darnell) so it took them extra time to suss out what they had in the youngsters. I’d love to know how much of those late TC roster moves have to do with performance assessment and how much had to do with input of those in place. I have a feeling Peter Chiarelli and Todd McLellan are just now realizing the calls are coming from inside the house. I wonder what PC thinks about trading Marincin now, and about the overall assessment of the minor league teams/European assets.

Bear is now 20GP, 5-17-22 on the season, NHLE is 82GP, 6-21-27. Early days after the draft, but he (along with Caleb Jones) is trending well so far in the 2015-16 season.

OILERS BLUE IN A BOX

oilers d no 18

Three different sources here. BTN for the first three columns and the Rel, HockeyAnalysis.com for the Corsi For % 5×5 and War-on-ice for the final column.

Klefbom’s numbers are improving in most of these areas, and his offense this year has been a revelation. Those blasted assist counters in Sweden (the Frugal family) obscured the man’s offense. Oscar is also improving in the possession numbers and his Fenwick is at about par compared to last season. Recent pairing with Mark Fayne seems to be working, but they’ve played only 60 minutes together at 5×5.

Good to see Brandon Davidson draw in, I honestly don’t know if he’s a real live defenseman or running some major luck, but it behooves the organization to find out before proceeding. Based on his play, I don’t think there’s any doubt he won’t see the waiver wire.

Nurse brings some nice offense along with wheels and physical play, man he’s a fun player to have on our side. Andrej Sekera has had some wobbly bits, especially early, but I’ve liked him overall (all Oilers D have endured difficult moments, no doubt about it).

I like the current top four better than anything we’ve seen this season. Todd McLellan appears to have four men he can count on.

 

  • David Staples: The next time Mark Fayne makes a major contribution to a scoring chance will be the first time he’s done so all year. That would be OK if Fayne had been defending with any success, but he’s been leaking scoring chances and goals against, as have Andrej Sekera and Andrew Ference. Their scoring chances plus-minus at even strength is in Cam Barker territory. Source
  • Jonathan Willis:Fayne is a quality stay-at-home defencemen, which is reflected in those wonderful on-ice numbers we considered earlier in this piece. But because that’s the kind of game he plays, he’s in position to get dinged for a lot of relatively minor mistakes on major breakdowns. Very rarely is he the guy making the critical mistake himself. Source

I have, and remain, convinced Mark Fayne is easily one of the four best options for Todd McLellan. Based on his projected lineup tonight, the coach (and Jonathan Willis) agree. I know many who read this site and run their own analysis disagree and I do think it’s an interesting discussion. Do you believe Mark Fayne is one of Edmonton’s best defensemen? Yes. Yes I do.

Good Christ. m g you’re killing me. And I agree, it’s an abomination. That said, this is a playoff team in very important places. Please baby Jesus, send us a strong goaltending performance this evening?

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LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

This morning at 10, TSN 1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey. We’ll talk about Edmonton’s logjam on defense, and we’ll each give our ‘best solution’ to what happens when Justin Schultz is activated.
  • Jason McKee, head coach/GM for Spruce Grove Saints. We’ll talk about the position of defense—does he look for faster kids to play the position?
  • Brian Hedger, NHL.com. We’ll talk about the Blackhawks, a team that spends the regular season tinkering and testing new recruits, content in the knowledge deep runs into the playoffs are a given. I remember those days.
  • Scott Zerr, Oilers Nation and TSN1260. The Condors play an early game today, we’ll preview it with Scott.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Oil2Oilers says:

    The team is remarkable better to watch but… And it is a BIG BUT they can’t win.

    The Americans have not yet started cooking there Turkey’s and this team is done like dinner.

    No playoffs, no meaningful games past October. Yet again.

  2. G Money says:

    The turn north is coming folks.

    Remember those shot metrics trend lines I posted four games ago? Trend hasn’t changed.

    Every game, this team is having fewer letdowns.

    We just finished the most brutal 19-game stretch I can ever remember.

    Now, the calibre of teams is going down and the calibre of Oiler hockey is going up.

    They bring *this* game every night and they’re going to beat a LOT OF teams.

    Dress warm, folks. The north country beckons.

  3. russ99 says:

    Centre of attention:
    If they play like this against Jersey everything is OK.

    They’ve been playing like this for a few games now, a complete game, just can’t get it done on the scoreboard.

    Sucks, but what are you gonna do? Sometimes the pucks go in when you don’t want them and don’t go in when you want.

  4. Ice Sage says:

    flyfish1168:
    Nilsson had no chance on anyone of them goals.

    Second goal was a Crosby golden goal special – save-able, otherwise he was solid, spectacular at times. Outplayed by Crawford, tho.

  5. Sugar Reijo says:

    Draisaitl is just ridiculous.

  6. Gordies Elbow says:

    striatic,

    No, as a ref, that was too many men. He played the puck before his replacement left the surface completely.

  7. Gerta Rauss says:

    This is the best 30th place club we’ve had so far, so that’s something.

    Tough loss, that’s too bad

  8. hunter1909 says:

    Single point from the tie.

    This Oiler fans takes it vs the Blackhawks

  9. Lowetide says:

    G Money:
    The turn north is coming folks.

    Remember those shot metrics trend lines I posted four days ago?Trend hasn’t changed.

    Every game, this team is having fewer letdowns.

    We just finished the most brutal 19-game stretch I can ever remember.

    Now, the calibre of teams is going down and the calibre of Oiler hockey is going up.

    They bring *this* game every night and they’re going to beat a LOT OF teams.

    Dress warm, folks.The north country beckons.

    Agreed. This team is going to have a run that makes up for these damnable WC giants who they’re pushing but can’t get past. Very encouraging point, believe it or not.

  10. striatic says:

    G Money:
    The turn north is coming folks.

    Remember those shot metrics trend lines I posted four days ago?Trend hasn’t changed.

    Every game, this team is having fewer letdowns.

    We just finished the most brutal 19-game stretch I can ever remember.

    Now, the calibre of teams is going down and the calibre of Oiler hockey is going up.

    They bring *this* game every night and they’re going to beat a LOT OF teams.

    Dress warm, folks.The north country beckons.

    I have to admit that this looks pretty good:

    http://www.naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20152016&game=20277

    .. but you know, we’ve had very well behaved Corgis to start other seasons too. Patience is difficult given previous disappointments.

  11. blainer says:

    Man hard luck boys. That was too many men by my eye.

    Four important things to take from this game.

    1. Draisaitl is a beast and will be a major player for this team.

    2. Was very impressed with Davidson’s skating. We have a player there.

    3.The bottom six has to score at least Fucking once.

    4. We are just not going to win games with 852% save percentages.

  12. JDï™ says:

    Just like the Oilers tonight – so close: http://i.imgur.com/hMqxVp0.gifv

  13. hags9k says:

    We got a point. And we got a Leon Draisatl. Rom for mayor.

    Now rob Snow for Schultz a 2nd and a 4th and lets start to climb the tables. FINALLY, if you squint, you can see light way at the end.

  14. hunter1909 says:

    How about a contest when everyone jumps in with THE prediction of the game which most mathematically certain…

    starts the Oilers resurgence.

    I’m declaring tonight, Oilers took the champions to where one day the Hawks pretty well feel tonight is a bonafide up and coming team. Hey they’re 3x champs!!

  15. Kmart99 says:

    So heart breaking.

    Woodguy, it looks like our bet comes down to the 20th game.

  16. Derek says:

    They’re close.

    I mean they’re in dead last, but they are certainly entertaining again.

  17. JDï™ says:

    Oil2Oilers: No playoffs,

    Only fools thought so before the season.

  18. G Money says:

    striatic: .. but you know, we’ve had very well behaved Corgis to start other seasons too. Patience is difficult given previous disappointments.

    True, but they started good against weaker opposition, and got weaker as the competition got tougher.

    Now, they’ve shown steady improvement and done it against heavyweight Western Conference types.

  19. hunter1909 says:

    Normally Chicago’s players end games v Edmonton laughing and smiling.

    Tonight that point means 1 point found hahahahahahahaha

    I’m not even drinking.

  20. Oil2Oilers says:

    Yaks puck luck is awful right now. When he regresses to meat it will be tenderloin.

  21. russ99 says:

    hags9k:
    Goalies matter.What a prick save by CC.

    I get ya. Nilsson had a good game, but at some point we’re going to need to have the best goalie on the ice, and frankly he’s not in the system now.

    Eventually Oilers need to stop this pattern they’ve had for 9 years of getting goalies on the cheap and pay for a top 10 guy.

  22. Clay says:

    Lowetide: Disagree. It’s happening in real time and he hammered it. You can’t pick your spot there imo.

    Agreed. If anything, Hall is the snakebittenest of snakebitten right now.

    He’ll have a hattrick here soon.

  23. Derek says:

    JDï™:
    Just like the Oilers tonight – so close: http://i.imgur.com/hMqxVp0.gifv

    What is this? Canada day in Shaunavon?

  24. Ice Sage says:

    Oil2Oilers:
    The team is remarkable better to watch but… And it is a BIG BUT they can’t win.

    The Americans have not yet started cooking there Turkey’s and this team is done like dinner.

    No playoffs, no meaningful games past October. Yet again.

    Diminished expectations are the key to happiness: Oilers weren’t going to make the playoffs this year so playing better team hockey, especially defensively, and establishing a culture of competitiveness are the goals. That’s happening, subjectively and objectively. Enjoy the spring of ’16 off from Oiler hockey – it’ll be a while before we can do that again!

  25. G Money says:

    hunter1909: I’m declaring tonight, Oilers took the champions to where one day the Hawks pretty well feel tonight is a bonafide up and coming team. Hey they’re 3x champs!!

    The Hawks have always gotten the calls. They usually didn’t need goaltending much against the Oil.

    Tonight, they needed the calls and they needed their goalie to be lights out or they would have lost.

    Brand new day.

  26. jp says:

    AsiaOil:
    Hunter I never said Eberle is not a great little player – he is – but we need a top pair dman more than a small winger and you have to give to get. Drop Hamonic into this group of dmen and it drops everyone down a bit closer to their level. Add CMD and your heading north in a hurry.

    I’m on a bit of a high after this loss, but the way they played tonight makes me think they COULD keep this whole damn forward group together. Add another Sekera/Petry level defender with the $276 million that’s coming off the books this summer and wait for Klef/Nurse/Reinhart (+Davidson?) to mature.

    Could be an all right D and the most exciting forward corps since the 80’s.

    Not saying this is the best plan, but a game like tonight made it look plausible.

  27. JDï™ says:

    Derek: What is this? Canada day in Shaunavon?

    Sponsored by Bohemian!

  28. Pechetr says:

    Fantastic game! No shame in that effort. This team is soooo close to getting over the hump. I think the eastern road trip is going to be fun!

  29. TeeVee says:

    G Money:
    The turn north is coming folks.

    Remember those shot metrics trend lines I posted four games ago?Trend hasn’t changed.

    Every game, this team is having fewer letdowns.

    We just finished the most brutal 19-game stretch I can ever remember.

    Now, the calibre of teams is going down and the calibre of Oiler hockey is going up.

    They bring *this* game every night and they’re going to beat a LOT OF teams.

    Dress warm, folks.The north country beckons.

    I like the cut of your jib.

  30. Oil2Oilers says:

    JDï™: Only fools thought so before the season.

    No Playoffs before American Thanksgiving. No meaningful games in the new year. We’re these foolish thoughts as well?

  31. Caramel Obvious says:

    Draisatl is much better than I thought.

    Nurse is better than I thought.

    Reinhart remains a terrible acquisition. Entirely sad and predictable. Remember when people were saying he had top pairing upside. That was laughable then. Now it’s tragic.

  32. G Money says:

    The Oilers were significantly plus Corsi against the Hawks for two straight games – and full value for the results. When is the last time that happened?

  33. Gordies Elbow says:

    Love Davidson, real player there.

    Liked him with Reinhart, but clearly he’s the one that is stirring the drink.

    Shocking.

  34. hags9k says:

    You can’t fault Hall there, the one timer is the play there, and it’s not like he missed the net. Just larceny.

  35. frjohnk says:

    Finally

    ELPH!

  36. blainer says:

    Oh ya and one more thing that is really bothering me and it HAS to be driving everybody mad.

    Yak has to STOP shooting the puck wide. We lost 40 seconds yet again on the PP from one of his hard shots that rarely hits the net.

    Man does he miss CMD.

    Honest if I were Tmac I would take him aside during practice and tell him he has to stay behind for a half hour and learn to shoot the puck on NET !!

    When CMD returns this really will be a team no one will want to play.

    Call up LB Now !!

  37. Caramel Obvious says:

    russ99: I get ya. Nilsson had agood game, but at some point we’re going to need to have the best goalie on the ice, and frankly he’s not in the system now.

    Eventually Oilers need to stop this pattern they’ve had for 9 years of getting goalies on the cheap and pay for a top 10 guy.

    There is no such thing as a top 10 guy. You can pay for one but that doesn’t mean you are going to get him.

    That said, Crawford outplayed Nielsen. That’s a fact.

  38. Gordies Elbow says:

    Caramel Obvious,

    Not even close. Did you even watch him play?

    Perhaps you might want to watch him against Hossa. Average player, whom he had issues with.

  39. Kmart99 says:

    A win Friday and the Oil are .375 through 20gp.
    That’s .075 better than I predicted through this 20 game stretch
    Things are looking up!

    Win 7 of the next 11.I believe.

    13-15-2 at 30 gp … my optimistic prediction, but I believe it’s probable.

  40. Lowetide says:

    G Money:
    The Oilers were significantly plus Corsi against the Hawks for two straight games – and full value for the results.When is the last time that happened?

    Long time.

  41. böök¡je says:

    G Money:
    The Oilers were significantly plus Corsi against the Hawks for two straight games – and full value for the results.When is the last time that happened?

    What about that time that Grangner guy got 8 goals against them?

  42. hags9k says:

    Caramel Obvious,

    He’s a rookie! Way too early to label him anything else.

  43. 719 says:

    Another great effort sunk by sub-par goaltending

  44. hags9k says:

    frjohnk:
    Finally

    ELPH!

    Good one.
    I snorted.

  45. JDï™ says:

    Oil2Oilers: No Playoffs before American Thanksgiving. No meaningful games in the new year. We’re these foolish thoughts as well?

    Did you expect them to turn on a dime? Yes, it’s been worse than imagined so far, but this is not Eakins bad.

    Does it matter when the playoff dream dies? This team just took the Hawks to OT in an exciting game. If you’re tired of standing on the ledge, then get off.

  46. Numenius says:

    Is anyone missing Schultz? I’m not.

    Although there were a few mistakes, that’s the first time I’ve felt comfortable with a D-corps this year.

  47. LadiesloveSmid says:

    russ99: I get ya. Nilsson had agood game, but at some point we’re going to need to have the best goalie on the ice, and frankly he’s not in the system now.

    Eventually Oilers need to stop this pattern they’ve had for 9 years of getting goalies on the cheap and pay for a top 10 guy.

    certain goalie with a .938 in the system, just saved 37/38 this afternoon

  48. hags9k says:

    We will crush the Devils Friday. As always thanks LT! Fun game.

  49. russ99 says:

    Caramel Obvious: There is no such thing as a top 10 guy.You can pay for one but that doesn’t mean you are going to get him.

    That said, Crawford outplayed Nielsen.That’s a fact.

    Good point. But those guys do get traded and signed away so it does happen.

    Key point being, I can’t remember the last time an Oiler goalie in a starter vs. starter matchup was clearly the better goalie on the ice. Roloson?

  50. Lowetide says:

    hags9k:
    We will crush the Devils Friday. As always thanks LT! Fun game.

    Thanks, Hags, right back at you. This is the most fun I’ve had watching an Oilers game this season. Seriously. Well, except for the Calgary away and Montreal games. 🙂

  51. Kmart99 says:

    .852 and they still got a point out of it.

  52. böök¡je says:

    G Money:
    The turn north is coming folks.

    Remember those shot metrics trend lines I posted four games ago?Trend hasn’t changed.

    Every game, this team is having fewer letdowns.

    We just finished the most brutal 19-game stretch I can ever remember.

    Now, the calibre of teams is going down and the calibre of Oiler hockey is going up.

    They bring *this* game every night and they’re going to beat a LOT OF teams.

    Dress warm, folks.The north country beckons.

    I agree. I am pretty damn optimistic.

    This is a much better team than last year.

  53. böök¡je says:

    Anybody know an easy way to get the Oilers record against top vs bottom teams?

  54. blainer says:

    russ99: I get ya. Nilsson had agood game, but at some point we’re going to need to have the best goalie on the ice, and frankly he’s not in the system now.

    Eventually Oilers need to stop this pattern they’ve had for 9 years of getting goalies on the cheap and pay for a top 10 guy.

    LB is 2nd in the AHL with a 938% save percentage with goalies who have played 9 games. We have a goalie we just have to recall him to see if he is ready.

    Just like we had to see how we could play without Gryba in the lineup. I got my answer. Have no idea how they handle the D when Shultz gets back. We played a hell of a game tonight.

  55. Kmart99 says:

    russ99: Good point. But those guys do get traded and signed away so it does happen.

    Key point being, I can’t remember the last time an Oiler goalie was clearly the better goalie on the ice. Roloson?

    Yup. Khabi for 15 games. And Roli. Goaltending is sinking this ship. NEED one of these guys to go on a run.

    SIDE NOTE: Crawford is soooo underrated. Robbed the Oilers of 3 goals tonight.

  56. russ99 says:

    Numenius:
    Is anyone missing Schultz? I’m not.

    Although there were a few mistakes, that’s the first time I’ve felt comfortable with a D-corps this year.

    Sure. We’re still a bit shaky moving the puck out of the D-zone unless it’s on Sekera’s stick and are too predictable on the powerplay. I see him starting over Gryba and Reinhart and likely Fayne as well.

  57. jp says:

    Numenius:

    Although there were a few mistakes, that’s the first time I’ve felt comfortable with a D-corps this year.

    I’m not going to bash Schultz, but that was the best I’ve felt about the D all year too.

  58. hunter1909 says:

    böök¡je:
    Anybody know an easy way to get the Oilers record against top vs bottom teams?

    Sure.

    Check out the Loss Column. You can’t miss them.

  59. Chamucks says:

    Gordies Elbow,

    Did you call Hossa an average player?

  60. hunter1909 says:

    Everyone who voted con or pro re the Oilers receiving a Loser Point.

    One side goes N the other side goes S

    ADD: Whatever combat effectiveness(ERA), based on weapons+ tactics

    Goal: Minimum 40% Battle casualties.

  61. Gerta Rauss says:

    TMac post game
    http://oilers.nhl.com/club/podcastplayer.htm?pid=98&iid=52791

    -his feet were off the ice as Hossa touched the puck, good play by them

    -group played well, real well as a team

    -we’ve got 2 lines that are up and running…we’ll get there

    -best game Eberle has played since he’s been back..played on the inside

    -he (Nilsson) made some good saves, I’m happy with him

    -impressed with just about everything Leon does right now…it’s fun to watch him right now

  62. blainer says:

    jp: I’m not going to bash Schultz, but that was the best I’ve felt about the D all year too.

    Jeebus if there is one thing that can screw up my optimism its the Jutzing. As if things aren’t bad enough he now has a chronic back problem.

    Often a career ending injury.

  63. hunter1909 says:

    The Hawks player wins tonight’s game; anyone who voted that player wins, sorry Losers better luck next game.

  64. hunter1909 says:

    Pat Kane fans are in line tonight for the grand prize from tonight’s earlier contest:

    Draisaitl v Kane

    Kane 2 points

    Draisaitl 1 point

    winner: P Kane contestants

  65. hunter1909 says:

    Thanks for playing to Everyone of You who played tonight, the first night of this Series.

  66. McSorley33 says:

    History will record our Oilers – willingly- played Eric Gryba for 18 games.

    There is a tiny gap between Davidson and Gryba in skating.

    Big difference in D play…..

    That might have been our best all around game this year.

  67. hunter1909 says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    TMac post game


    -his feet were off the ice before Hossa touched the puck, good call by them

    -group played well, real well as a team

    -we’ve got 2 lines that are up and running…we’ll get there

    -best game Eberle has played since he’s been back..played on the inside

    -he (Nilsson) made some good saves, I’m happy with him

    -impressed with just about everything Leon does right now…it’s fun to watch him right now

    I’ll post the audio when it’s up

    Dang Blasted Best last place hockey team in the NHL lately, not since:(contestants try to name the team which will be voted/judged the top team that was losing a few games.

    Early in the season, tonight’s Bettman Point continues to divide the Oiler fans.

  68. McSorley33 says:

    Numenius,

    Agreed x 1,0000

  69. hunter1909 says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    They played the current NHL 3x Champions to a draw point.

    You do remember tie games, right?

    It’s also like the lion cub starting to worry the Antelope, on a warm sunny day in Africa.

  70. Centre of attention says:

    “What a move by Darnell before dishing the puck off to Benoit Pouliot for the tying goal (his 4th) early in the third period. Nurse walked into the zone with the puck on a string and made a perfect pass to release the Poo.”

    -BM @ ON

    I’m sorry but I laughed for about 2 and a half minutes straight after reading that one threw.

  71. hunter1909 says:

    Leon The Point Farmer Strikes Again-

    1 point in tonights OTL versus Chicago, three freaking times champions of late.

  72. hunter1909 says:

    McSorley33:
    History will record our Oilers – willingly- played Eric Gryba for 18 games.

    There is a tiny gap between Davidson and Gryba in skating.

    Big difference in D play…..

    That might have been our best all around game this year.

    How was Davidson tonight in your opinion?

  73. blainer says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    TMac post game


    -his feet were off the ice before Hossa touched the puck, good call by them

    -group played well, real well as a team

    -we’ve got 2 lines that are up and running…we’ll get there

    -best game Eberle has played since he’s been back..played on the inside

    -he (Nilsson) made some good saves, I’m happy with him

    -impressed with just about everything Leon does right now…it’s fun to watch him right now

    I’ll post the audio when it’s up

    The coach really can’t say much bad about the goaltending as it such a confidence issue for that position.

    Away from the players and in the coaches office I guarantee you he is very frustrated.

  74. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAint'sSo! says:

    Tough loss, great game, good fight.

    The Shaw goal was a killer, broken play, everyone reacted to the fan and he gets a great 2nd whack, tough one.

    Great all around game, post game interviews show guys that are mad but aren’t beat up, thats a good thing. The schedule shifts gears for the next couple of weeks, hopefully they have cracked that sad habit of playing down to other teams.

    Go Oilers

    (Clap clap)

  75. G Money says:

    Shot data up: https://oilersnerdalert.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/g19-2015-11-18-oilers-vs-hawks-shots-and-chances/

    The Davidson/Reinhart pairing looked just fine by the numbers. Klef/Fayne got absolutely torched, but they spent most of their time against that goddamn Kane line. I’m not sure there’s three pairings in the league that could hold those guys in check right now.

  76. hunter1909 says:

    From Now On:

    I’m calling those OTL points;

    Draisaitl Points.

    So long as Dr Drai keeps up a ppg pace this season. Which game do you think LD drops under 1.0 ?

  77. till_horcoff_is_coach says:

    Woohoo – moral victory (is there another kind… hard to remember a real one).

    Naturally I was hoping for a win as always… but I REALLY WANTED one just so TMac won’t change the lineup. The Davidson/Reinhardt looked very good tonight… though the team as a whole did a fantastic job on the back pressure which really diffused a lot of the attacks.

  78. Centre of attention says:

    hunter1909:
    From Now On:

    I’m calling those OTL points;

    Draisaitl Points.

    So long as Dr Drai keeps up a ppg pace this season. Which game do you think LD drops under 1.0 ?

    Just saying but hes currently at 1.55 ppg

  79. McSorley33 says:

    hunter1909,

    Davidson was outstanding….seems to be gaining confidence with every game.

    Can’t see him coming out of the lineup…..but I have said that before.

  80. Stelio Kontos (Formerly Zangetsu-Formerly Thinker) says:

    Someone remember that I say that second half of seasons when it is in the rearview don’t matter. We are officially out of the playoffs (have been for awhile). I don’t want to hear anymore positivity this spring when things look good playing backup goaltenders.

  81. Lowetide says:

    Stelio Kontos (Formerly Zangetsu-Formerly Thinker):
    Someone remember that I say that second half of seasons when it is in the rearview don’t matter. We are officially out of the playoffs (have been for awhile). I don’t want to hear anymore positivity this spring when things look good playing backup goaltenders.

    I’ll be as positive as I like, thank you very much. 🙂

  82. Zelepukin says:

    jp: I’m not going to bash Schultz, but that was the best I’ve felt about the D all year too.

    Serious lack of Jultzing this game. A couple hickups but no real Jultzing, which felt very weird.

  83. Gerta Rauss says:

    hunter1909,

    Are you working on spec tonight Hunter..?

    You’re posts/60 is on an elite level this evening

  84. G Money says:

    Something to note from the Corsi and the Dangerous Fenwicks AND the box cars: Nurse-Sekera went head to head with the Toews line tonight and completely shut them down. On the Corsis and the Dangerous Fenwicks, they were 80%+ vs the line.

    80%!!!!

    Maybe that top pairing is not as far away as we think.

  85. Pouzar says:

    russ99: and frankly he’s not in the system now.

    *stares through*

  86. G Money says:

    I think SportsNet is trolling Oiler fans. They’re showing brilliant saves by goalies, including a stop on an incredible play by the Missing One by a Phlegms goalie.

  87. Centre of attention says:

    Taylor Hall talking about his incident with TvR:

    “Its my MCL actually, and yeah I probably ripped some scar tissue there, luckily he finally let go and stopped twisting it”

    That made me feel sick.

    So glad hes ok. The hockey gords gifted us an intact MCL on #4’s leg and then took away #4’s GWG in overtime.

    Fair trade, I must say.

  88. AsiaOil says:

    Eyes matching the numbers – this is much different – and a big piece is sitting in PB injured. We’ve already turned north and Chicago knows that the Oilers will be coming for them soon enough.

    As for the goaltending – I didn’t see a bad one go in tonight – so what else do you want? Shyte happens occasionally and Hall should have ended it before Hossa’s breakaway. Same people who want a vet goalie NOW also wanted Dubnyk flushed after 30 bad games and also don’t want to trade anyone half decent. Want a top 10 goalie? That will cost you Eberle. Then you still have a defense that is half too young, half too slow, and tonight happens anyway. A kid goalie just getting on top of the AHL changes nothing either.

    A forward is going for a defenseman – that’s the play – and it’s always been the play. Issue has been which one. Eberle goes for an expensive guy and Yak goes for a solid top 4 unless packaged with someone else. Simple cap reality but maybe you can convince someone to take Yak & Shultz for a more expensive guy. Sekera, Nurse, Klef, Reinhart and Davidson are keepers. Nice to see people coming around on Davidson. Need to trade for one top pair guy and one of the 3 kids will turn into the other.

    Sit back and quit bitching. This team is going to get a defenseman – the goalies will be good enough – and they are going to win a bunch of games now that this crazy start is over. I saw this show in 1979 and while the names are different – this team may be just as scary good.

  89. Gordies Elbow says:

    Wow, dead last.

    And yet, I feel the hard pull north.

    Tonight, I could see the light coming. Bad night, but good. Soon.

  90. Pouzar says:

    Leon F^ckin Draisaitl, a Center in the NHL.

  91. thurmtim says:

    They are maturing before our eyes. They are showing better focus, more pushback, more backbone and structure then we have seen in a very long time. WE have been stranded on the South Pole of the standings for so long we forget that from here, ALL roads lead north. This team will be quite something and fairly soon.

    They need to hang around within spitting distance of 3rd in the Pacific until opportunities arise for defensive upgrades, let alone McDavid’s return, and we are going to start seeing some serious traction.

    Remember how sad we looked in 2006 before adding Roloson and two good defencemen? Prior to that we were worse than this squad I would think.

    I imagine once they get a saner stretch of the schedule that isnt riddled with conference finalists every other night, this team is poised to tear someone a new opening or two.

    Have faith.

  92. Centre of attention says:

    Pouzar:
    Leon F^ckin Draisaitl, a Center in the NHL.

    Top line center that is, averaging 1.55 PPG and beating Toews on the draws as well.
    He’s a 100% undisputed heavyweight. Big, strong, skilled. The ideal center for the western conference. German Joe Thornton.

  93. Pouzar says:

    G Money:
    Something to note from the Corsi and the Dangerous Fenwicks AND the box cars: Nurse-Sekera went head to head with the Toews line tonight and completely shut them down.On the Corsis and the Dangerous Fenwicks, they were 80%+ vs the line.

    80%!!!!

    Maybe that top pairing is not as far away as we think.

    Love Nurse but Sekera is looking MILES better these days.

  94. Pouzar says:

    AsiaOil: the goalies will be good enough

    Oh. Really Now. Good to know.

  95. Pouzar says:

    Centre of attention: Top line center that is, averaging 1.55 PPG and beating Toews on the draws as well.
    He’s a 100% undisputed heavyweight. Big, strong, skilled. The ideal center for the western conference. German Joe Thornton.

    Taves….29% CF.

  96. Centre of attention says:

    So like, March’s lineup is going to be:

    Hall-McDavid-Draisaitl <—I think Drai can make Hall-McDavid work. Just a hunch.
    Pou-Nuge-Ebs <—- Can go head to head against anything in the NHL
    Purcell-Lander-Yakupov <—–Best attempt at unicorns
    Hendricks-Letestu-Korpikoski
    Pakarinen

    Klefbom-Hamonic
    Nurse-Spurgeon
    Reinhart-Schultz
    Davidson-Ference [Gryba waived or traded at deadline for pick]

    Nilsson
    Brossoit

    A man can dream…..

  97. AsiaOil says:

    He just needed a bit of time to come all the way back from his injury. If somehow we could swap Hamonic for Fayne – man we would be cooking.

    Sekera Nurse
    Klef Hamonic
    Davidson GR

    That 6 would include exactly 1 guy who was on the roster only 21 games ago – think about that next time someone says Chia is doing nothing.

    Pouzar: Love Nurse but Sekera is looking MILES better these days.

  98. Centre of attention says:

    AsiaOil:
    He just needed a bit of time to come all the way back from his injury. If somehow we could swap Hamonic for Fayne – man we would be cooking.

    Sekera Nurse
    Klef Hamonic
    Davidson GR

    That 6 would include exactly 1 guy who was on the roster only 21 games ago – think about that next time someone says Chia is doing nothing.

    It would need to be Fayne+++ but yeah I’m sure Chiarelli is trying to swing that as we speak.

    I think Garth takes Wideman with retained salary though or Trouba, because Oilers. Why would they ever get something they need?

  99. G Money says:

    Centre of attention,

    So the #Oilers trade rumor right now is Eberle, Fayne and a third asset to the #Isles for Hamonic and a center (Brock Nelson?).— Richard D. Cloutier (@rdcloutier) November 19, 2015

  100. Pouzar says:

    Hamonic is not even on my emotional radar.
    We need a f^ckin NHL goaltender.

  101. BONE207 says:

    hags9k,

    That’s not a light, that’s a McDavid riding a unicorn coming to aid Super Leon.

  102. Pouzar says:

    G Money:
    Centre of attention,

    Cloutier is not a source. Did he re-tweet from someone?

  103. Pouzar says:

    StatsCentre ‏@StatsCentre 1h1 hour ago
    Carrying impressive 31.6 shooting % + setting up teammates too, Leon Draisaitl currently 2nd in NHL points-per-game (Kane 1.67, Drai 1.56, Seguin 1.42, Benn 1.37 )

  104. G Money says:

    Pouzar,

    If the poster says “rumour”, I take it for what it is, which is 100% supposition.

    Do you actually feel the goaltending let us down tonight?

    It wasn’t quite as stone ass brilliant as Crawford, but Nilsson didn’t let in any softies to deflate his team, and stopped a bunch of tough ones – exactly what an NHL goalie is supposed to do.

  105. Pouzar says:

    G Money: Do you actually feel the goaltending let us down tonight?

    Not good enough imo.
    He doesn’t pass the eye test for me. I wanna see Talbot work through this and get some starts.

    That second goal he was down way too early imo. Got to be better there.

  106. "Steve Smith" says:

    G Money:
    Centre of attention,

    I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF LT’S BLOG CARRYING THAT GUY’S STUFF.

    (More seriously: we need to trade for a centre why, exactly?)

  107. "Steve Smith" says:

    Centre of attention:
    Purcell-Lander-Yakupov <—–Best attempt at unicorns

    Don’t look now, but your head unicorn is a quarter of the way into a zero point season.

  108. BONE207 says:

    böök¡je:
    Anybody know an easy way to get the Oilers record against top vs bottom teams?

    I get PTSD just thinking about that kind of stuff. Hypnosis may work.
    Fuck you Böök¡je

  109. Lowetide says:

    “Steve Smith”: Don’t look now, but your head unicorn is a quarter of the way into a zero point season.

    Fucking unicorns

  110. BONE207 says:

    Centre of attention: Just saying but hes currently at 1.55 ppg

    Would have had two if that fricken Crawford didn’t save overtime. Leon…killer play.

  111. Seismic Source says:

    I cant stop thinking about what Chia and Snow’s phone conversation sounded like. Whats getting offered on our end and whats being asked on theirs?

  112. edwards_daddy says:

    This team will be 17-17-1 by Christmas. Book it with bells on.

  113. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Didn’t get to see the game but those are some nice stats tonight and a well-deserved point.

    Remember me, folks, when I said this team will turn the corner around this mark. So they are 6-12-1 now. 9-15-1 would be a very acceptable 25 game record in my books. 85 points and scaring the hockey world in 2016 here we come.

  114. Frank the dog says:

    thurmtim:
    They are maturing before our eyes. They are showing better focus, more pushback, more backbone and structure then we have seen in a very long time. WE have been stranded on the South Pole of the standings for so long we forget that from here, ALL roads lead north.This team will be quite something and fairly soon.

    They need to hang around within spitting distance of 3rd in the Pacific until opportunities arise for defensive upgrades, let alone McDavid’s return, and we are going to start seeing some serious traction.

    Remember how sad we looked in 2006 before adding Roloson and two good defencemen? Prior to that we were worse than this squad I would think.

    I imagine once they get a saner stretch of the schedule that isnt riddled with conference finalists every other night,this team is poised to tear someone a new opening or two.

    Have faith.

    Tho ten will get better and will explode out of the gate in the last 30 games of the season. But not quote enough for a playoff run. Katz wants this team to peak in the new arena. The owner suite is not large enough for the owners personal celebration. Better described by hunter.

  115. Pouzar says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    Didn’t get to see the game but those are some nice stats tonight and a well-deserved point.

    Remember me, folks, when I said this team will turn the corner around this mark. So they are 6-12-1 now. 9-15-1 would be a very acceptable 25 game record in my books. 85 points and scaring the hockey world in 2016 here we come.

    Even the patented Staples scoring chance metric had Oilers 20-12 over Hawks.
    It was a great game for the Oil.

    Davidson, Nurse, and Drai were bright spots for me.
    Of course Hall was Hall.

    Very encouraging stuff.

  116. Kmart99 says:

    The problem with unicorns is that they don’t exist. You can have a Rhino fuck a pony all you want, but fiction is fiction.

    From now on I will refer to the elusive three scoring lines as sasquatch. Rare, but real. Oh wait….

    Who wants to go Squatchin’!?

  117. Pouzar says:

    Kmart99:
    The problem with unicorns is that they don’t exist. You can have a Rhino fuck a pony all you want, but fiction is fiction.

    From now on I will refer to the elusive three scoring lines as sasquatch.Rare, but real.Oh wait….

    Who wants to go Squatchin’!?

    I hear goalering is a thing.

  118. blainer says:

    G Money:
    Pouzar,

    If the poster says “rumour”, I take it for what it is, which is 100% supposition.

    Do you actually feel the goaltending let us down tonight?

    It wasn’t quite as stone ass brilliant as Crawford, but Nilsson didn’t let in any softies to deflate his team, and stopped a bunch of tough ones – exactly what an NHL goalie is supposed to do.

    G.

    Said this in an earlier post.

    Nilsson did not look bad tonight. but their goalie was better. This is happening in almost every game.
    Plus 852 is just not acceptable no matter how you look. We have an in house solution.

    LB near the top of the minors in save% at the age of 22. He is full of confidence and had a 961% in the only NHL game he played.

    If we had a 22 year old forward who was a top two AHL forward in scoring at that age do you think he would be here on the third line ? I do.

    Call up LB he has EARNED it.

  119. Kmart99 says:

    Regarding the goaltending:

    Nilsson made some key saves to keep the Oilers in it against great chances. The Hawks can hurt lots of goalies’ sv%s. It happens.

    Crawford was effing brilliant and deserves first star.

    My issue, is that playoff teams in the west are provided with this insanely high level of goaltending quite often.

    I wish Staples’ tracked his scoring chances for every team so II could compare goaltending sv% against scoring chances.

    The w-o-i data is nice, but far from perfect. I wonder if Hall’s OT shot was counted as in the arrow. Oil are last in that category for sv% anyway.

    Please goalies, please play better.

  120. blainer says:

    Pouzar: Even the patented Staples scoring chance metric had Oilers 20-12 over Hawks.
    It was a great game for the Oil.

    Davidson, Nurse, and Drai were bright spots for me.
    Of course Hall was Hall.

    Very encouraging stuff.

    Nurse will NEVER see the AHL again.

    Shoulda been playing Nurse from the get go in Gryba’s spot.

    We knew this.

  121. Kmart99 says:

    This is how close my bet with Darcy is:

    Oil vs NJD is the 20th and deciding game:
    Oil win=he wins
    Oil OTL/SOL= we push
    Oil lose = I win

    I hope the Oil win. A .375 record after twenty means they are playing better than I expected them to even with CMD. My prediction of 74 pts could easily end up being wrong and we could see this team north of 77pts after 82 games based on difficulty of schedule.

  122. Pouzar says:

    blainer: G.
    Said this in an earlier post.

    Nilsson did not look bad tonight. but their goalie was better. This happening in almost every game.
    Plus 852 is just not acceptable no matter how you look. We have a in house solution.

    LB near the top of the minors in save% at the age of 22. He is full of confidence and had a 961% in the only NHL game he played.

    If we had a 22 year old forward who was top two AHL forward in scoring at that age do you think he would be here on the third line ? I do.

    Call up LB he has EARNED it.

    Goalies are voodoo. Strike while the iron is hot and reward the kid with a game and a nice big league cheque. And who knows, maybe we get a >.920 sv % for a game or 2. Truthfully I think the kid can steal for games for us and that’s what we need if we wanna go streaking. I know it’s a pipe dream but a guy can….well……dream.

    I have no faith in Nilsson as an even a pseudo-starter on this team. And no, this is not just based on last night.

  123. blainer says:

    Pouzar: Goalies are voodoo. Strike while the iron is hot and reward the kid with a game and a nice big league cheque. And who knows, maybe we get a >.920 sv % for a game or 2. Truthfully I think the kid can steal for games for us and that’s what we need if we wanna go streaking. I know it’s a pipe dream but a guy can….well……dream.

    I have no faith in Nilsson as an even a pseudo-starter on this team. And no, this is not just based on last night.

    Ya. I thought we stacked enough goalies in the off season to at least find one that hasn’t shit the bed and we do have one he is just not playing here.

    LB deserves a shot. If they are serious about winning they have to try.

    That ference roster spot hurts as we will have to make a decision on putting a player or Nilsson on waivers in order to recall LB.

    He needs to be recalled today before the team is healthy to avoid waivers.

    I would rather have Nilsson over Scrivens.

  124. Pouzar says:

    blainer: Nurse will NEVER see the AHL again.

    Shoulda been playing Nurse from the get go in Gryba’s spot.

    We knew this.

    1-4-5 in 10 games for Nurse.
    That 0.50 PPG puts him in some nice territory(Top 40) especially with minimal PP time.

  125. Pouzar says:

    Where was our buddy Erik Gustafsson last night btw?

  126. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    blainer,

    I don’t see Nilsson getting claimed on waivers. He’s got upside but most if not all teams have 2 goalies they are more comfortable with in the NHL, or have prospects they can bring up.

    Talbot would be claimed in spite of the year he’s had so far.

  127. sliderule says:

    Crawford .919
    Nilsson .852
    That says it all.

  128. Pouzar says:

    Mentioned this last night but Drai is 2nd in the NHL in PPG @ 1.56 pts/g (Kane 1.58)

  129. Pouzar says:

    Bruce’s Player Grade/Desc of Draisaitl is outstanding. Read it folks in all it’s glory.
    What a player. I have no idea how this kid did it but the improvement year over year is otherworldly.

  130. Sugar Reijo says:

    Donuts are about to come off the bats schedule-wise. And the way this team is playing right now I haven’t given up on meaningful games post New Year’s.

    Dare to assume for just a second they had come out of those LA and Calgary larcenies with four points instead of zero — they’d currently be three points out of a playoff spot.

    I’m as frustrated as anybody about the lack of results to this point but there are some good things happening right now. Honest to Gord there are.

  131. GCW_69 says:

    Great line in the comments section on TSN:

    The Oilers have a history of believing they don’t need defence men. They have the lottery picks to prove it.

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