G27 2015-16: STARS AT OILERS

I think we all know, in our hearts, the rising will come against Dallas, in the playoffs. Can’t tell you the year and can’t tell you series, but when this Oilers team rises it will be against the Stars, in Dallas, and I will cry. Guaranteed. As for tonight, the Stars have been hammering Edmonton for a long damn time, and the Oilers are not good enough to beat them without great goaltending, a tired opponent, brilliant effort and luck. That is a helluva lot to call upon in one evening.

Megan took some heat online yesterday, but this isn’t as insane a bet as some would lead you to believe. Edmonton plays in a ghastly division and even today are just seven points out of a playoff spot. Anyway, I am going to hold on to this tweet and if this bet comes in then all must acknowledge Megan is the superior hockey mind. Do you think there is a slight chance the Oilers can make it? Let me know in the comments section.

standings

Oilers are 5-5-1 at home after 26 games, need to close that gap during this home stand. Tonight will be the toughest game, with contests against Buffalo and San Jose more winnable. How tired will Dallas be tonight?

SHAPES OF THINGS TO COME, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2014: 4-5-1
  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0
  • Oilers in November 2014: 2-9-3
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2
  • Oilers in December 2014: 2-8-4
  • Oilers in December 2015: 1-0-0
  • Oilers after 26 in 2014-15: 6-15-5, 17 points (-37 GD)
  • Oilers after 26 in 2015-16: 9-15-2, 20 points (-15 GD)

Game 27 was a 2-1 win against San Jose a year ago, so this turtle race could heat up (no need for slow-motion replay) depending on tonight and the result.

HEART FULL OF SOUL

draisaitl khaira young stars

This is Jujhar Khaira (with Leon). The young forward received his first call to the NHL last month and has been taking a regular shift since then. Khaira is a rugged player, and at 6.03, 215 he is a bigger man than many of the established forwards in Edmonton.

I wanted to re-visit some of the reporting from this week (sorry) because for me the idea that Peter Chiarelli is going to have a bigger group next season rings true. As a long-time fan of both teams, I would think the following to be true:

  • The current group of forwards is going to see some size added on the skill lines
  • We could see two big men, we will call them Lucic and Horton, added
  • The current group of forwards is miles better than PC has seen so far.

I think the things we are reading now from the MSM are based on the now, and if and when the coach and manager see RNH good, see these forwards good, then the speculation will subside. It took me pretty much this week to suss out the following:

  • Peter Chiarelli is still evaluating the Nuge, and is basing his opinion of him on this season only. That is encouraging, as I bet he will see the Nuge in a far better light by the end of the season. I am very confident in saying that, as RNH was quality before his illness and the line shuffles.
  • Todd McLellan believes in Nuge and that may carry the day.
  • The people who advise Chiarelli, the men have seen Nuge from the beginning, should be doing a better job of informing their GM. He is going to look a fool if he makes a trade from this position.

Now, Nuge on board doesn’t mean Eberle is here next season and as  a Bruins fan, I can tell you that the Stanley team in 2011 featured several men who came in at Khaira-or-larger pants:

  • Milan Lucic 6.03, 235
  • Nathan Horton 6.02, 229
  • Shawn Thornton 6.02, 217

Chiarelli’s Bruins also had several agitating forwards (Brad Marchand, Greg Campbell). Here are the current Oilers forwards who have enough size to be included at the outskirts (or better) of the conversation AND enough skill to play when the game is still in doubt:

  • Leon Draisaitl 6.01, 214

Suspect there is a germ of truth to all of this chatter about switching up the group, for me this is a story with legs. I don’t believe the Nuge portion holds water because at some point Peter Chiarelli will see Nuge good and get comfortable with him as a David Krejci or Patrice Bergeron (not saying Nuge is that guy but he does have a range of skills). By the way, extreme danger in trading Eberle, the Oilers need that scoring and he has tremendous hands. Be careful here, Peter Chiarelli. Sometimes in life you don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone (my thanks to famous blogger Joni Mitchell for the wording).

What happens then? Well, I am seeing a tremendous number of people saying (this is on twitter) ‘trade Nuge and run McDavid and Leon as 1-2 centers’ and folks that is absolutely crazy.

HONEY IN YOUR HIPS

The reason Edmonton is having problems with their forwards is all about injury, not size or big teeth. Running teenage centers up and down the depth chart isn’t going to make things better. I think Peter Chiarelli will run a bigger club next season, but he will realize his forward group is manna from heaven for a new GM, despite the results of the first 26 games. This is a marathon not a sprint. The Oilers wingers include Benoit Pouliot (6.03, 200), Taylor Hall (6.01, 201) and Leon can play over there too. I think the Oilers may go hard for a Lucic or Byfuglien this summer. There is already a helluva group of forwards here, people. I do think Peter Chiarelli is going to change the look of them and that will include skilled wingers with size. I am confident Nuge will prove himself to the new regime, and would suggest they review video from previous seasons to get some background on him. This is certainly important enough to do some actual work.

DEFENSE, 2015-16

OILERS DEFENSE OVER SEASON

  • Brandon Davidson is injured right now (or he was) but upon return I wonder if they try him up the depth chart. As I mentioned during the prospect series, we don’t know what he is yet, but he could be a very important piece. We know Brandon Davidson does a lot of things that are useful, but we don’t know how high up the depth chart he can do them.
  • Oscar Klefbom is having a fine season when you take into account who he is playing against, just 100 games into his career the young man is climbing Everest. A lot of the criticism laid at Klefbom’s feet is similar imo to what is happening with Nuge: These are extremely talented young men with the aptitude and physical gifts to take on enormous tasks at a young age. Punishing them for it is insane, and I was happy to see Todd McLellan say basically exactly that about Nuge early this week. He may have to dust off that speech for Klef later in the year.
  • Andrej Sekera is a veteran NHL player who took some time to settle in (no Oiler defender had a good start) but is playing well now. He is going to have a tough time against big men (we saw that on the second Bruins goal) but he is quality and I am thrilled he is here.
  • Mark Fayne is an effective defender (despite not delivering much offense). A lot of the metrics being used (David Staples, G Money) shine a bad light on him, but for me the CorsiRel remains the best way to look at defensemen (although the high danger stuff G is doing holds great promise, I can’t endorse it yet. Something missing to my eye, can’t identify it which should rightly enrage you), but I’ll bet on Fayne as being one of the four best men available to Todd McLellan.
  • Darnell Nurse may need a break from the tough minutes, his Rel is now below Griffin Reinhart and he has been leaking for a few games now. There is no sin in it, but there is a very difficult decision and conversation ahead if this continues. I would try him on the third pairing and move up Davidson, if healthy.

FORWARDS, 2015-16

oil forwards over season

  • Leon Draisaitl has been going through a dry spell recently and his numbers are still insane. What a season.
  • Taylor Hall has earned MVP consideration. He won’t get it, but watching him every night has been an extreme pleasure. What a player.
  • Teddy Purcell deserves your respect. This is a guy who fell down to the 4line for a minute or two, but has made himself into a major part of the team. I know they won’t bring him back, size will win the summer, but he at the very least earned a contract for next season in the NHL.
  • Connor McDavid is an important part of the team and an impact player. I saw several national broadcasters this week saying ‘I don’t want to hear about the impact of losing an 18 year old kid on their season’ and that completely misses the point. The Edmonton Oilers have a generational talent who showed his exceptional talent in a baker’s dozen games. There CANNOT be any other way to look at it! For Christ sakes national media, they lost a point-per-game player and you are saying that’s no reason to struggle? Please run tape of what you say after your show, because you are sounding like idiots.
  • Matt Hendricks has been a very important part of this team, playing up and down the depth chart. I was pleased to see him cash the other night, that secondary scoring is fabulous.
  • Jordan Eberle’s underlying numbers are beginning to climb, ever so slowly. He is getting closer, maybe that shootout goal sees him catch a fire.
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins needs to score more points at evens. That’s the only criticism I have, the man plays tough opponents, never bitches, works in all situations and has a 200-foot game. Shame on those who are casting him as anything other than a brilliant young NHL player.

 

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  1. Woodguy says:

    Pacific standing

    LAK +6
    SJS +2
    ARI 0
    ———————————
    VAN -2
    ANA -3
    CAL -5
    EDM -6

    55 games left to make up 6 games.

  2. Bank Shot says:

    Caramel Obvious:
    I presume Spector, Rishaug, and Gregor were all at the game.

    How the hell could anyone watch that asskicking and conclude that the problems the Oilers have is they aren’t “big enought” or “tough enough” or “gritty enough.”

    They were dominated because the Stars were faster, were better passers, and better skickhandlers.It’s that simple.

    The Oilers problem is as it ever was: not enough speed and skill.

    This game proved it for ever more.

    Goaltending is abeautiful thing.

    I’d say terrible defence is a big reason the Oilers can’t compete. If they had one defenseman capable of making the long breakaway pass it’d open up loads of room on the ice.

    Instead hall usually has to carry it from hashmarks to hashmarks.

    Of course it’s forbidden to suggest trading an Oilers center for a D.

  3. Woodguy says:

    G Money:
    Hey!We’ve already matched the wins from last December!

    WOOT!

  4. striker says:

    jp: striker:
    5-1 Bakersfield

    Was Nilsson first star?

    Just checked the boxscore, surprisingly YES!! 🙂

  5. RexLibris says:

    I’m just going to leave these here for Bookjie. And the Stars.

    http://imgur.com/gallery/wr9dX

    http://imgur.com/gallery/T8ZNm

    You know what to do.

  6. russ99 says:

    Bank Shot: I’d say terrible defence is a big reason the Oilers can’t compete. If they had one defenseman capable of making the long breakaway pass it’d open up loads of room on the ice.

    Instead hall usually has to carry it from hashmarks to hashmarks.

    Of course it’s forbidden to suggest trading an Oilers center for a D.

    We’ve got plenty of speed and skill, and plenty of puck moving defenseman.

    What we don’t have are forwards that can take the puck from the opponent in the d-zone without using the wall, then start the break. Also forwards who can hold the puck in the o zone and do something with it under pressure and forwards that can screen in the crease and score on rebounds.

    It doesn’t always have to be the defenseman winning the puck and the having to come from the back on a long breakout pass, and if we had those other pieces then the opposition wouldn’t be playing us to break out from the back every single time.

  7. böök¡je says:

    NHL calibre goaltending is huge. It gives the team and the coaches time to work the ‘rest of it’ out without every mistake becoming a disaster.

    That’s critically important for the success of a team.

  8. Woodguy says:

    and plenty of puck moving defenseman.

    I count 3 on the team and one is a rookie who is getting slaughtered lately.

    Another just passed 100 games

    And Sekera.

    That’s not plenty.

  9. Centre of attention says:

    The ‘Ders is the NHL’s second star of the night. He would of been first star if Johnny Cocky didn’t put up a 4 point night.

    I think Talbot gets Buffalo and if he craps the bed I don’t know if he gets a contract come January.

  10. jp says:

    Cameron,

    Kmart99,

    Haha, sorry.

    I was mostly just talking about horseshoes in dark places rather than trying to seriously comment on the sustainability of the Flames successes and failures.

    Their underlying numbers are indeed much improved this year, so most likely they’ll regress towards the meat some. But they’re not going to keep winning all their OT games, and the goaltending isn’t certain to recover. So who knows!

  11. Centre of attention says:

    Nilsson has 90 saves against Dallas in 2 starts.

    Just sayin’

  12. dangilitis says:

    From Gene Principe:

    “It made me wonder how this former third-round pick of the Islanders ended up in the KHL. At 25 he was trying to revive a career which included only 23 NHL games with the Islanders. While Nilsson is a hulk of a man, he wasn’t always like that and he, along with the doctors, didn’t know why. It started out as simply not feeling well and just continued to get worse for the Swedish puckstopper. Lethargic, short on energy, craving copious amounts of sleep… something just wasn’t right. Throw in a large loss in weight and it gives you some background on how his health was adversely starting to impact his game. You can’t play well when you don’t feel well. This mystery lasted almost a year before doctors finally figured out that Nilsson was gluten intolerant. Doesn’t sound like much, but it was weighing down him and his career. Once he started eating better, his weight went up and so did his play.”

    Well, let me tell you that you don’t lose weight from being “gluten intolerant.” If, however, you have celiac disease, then yes, you can definitely lose weight. You can also have altered bowel habits, fatigue and ‘mental fog,’ abdominal pain, anemia, vitamin d deficiency, itchy rashes, etc.

    So Nilsson must have celiac disease from the way Gene has reported it, which was untreated early on in his NHL career. That would definitely explain his numbers weren’t so hot for the Islanders. That’s a big damn deal for me, and would fit with the narrative that we are seeing where a very good goalie has been snatched on the cheap. If Chiarelli knew this, then bravo – this is using insider medical info to your team’s advantage! It sure is nice when it works in our favour for a change…

  13. stevezie says:

    Missed the game. Thought it would be fun to watch it through the comments.

    I spot most of the time guessing we were losing by six. By far the angriest comment section I have ever seen on a win.

    So good work, Anders.

  14. AsiaOil says:

    Swede in net was the beginning, middle and end of this game. Thank god someone in training camp actually watches the games and how the goalies are playing instead of basing their decision on what a guy did 4 years ago. Nilsson was clearly the best goalie in TC and he’s the best goalie still. But DO NOT expect this to last – he’s playing really well – but you cannot expect him to sustain this. We need Talbot to get his act together ASAP or he needs to be dealt for someone who can help while he still carries some value.

    As for the shyte kicking the rest of the team took – Drai and Hall looked like the only forwards who had a prayer against the Stars big guys – although the 4th line had it’s moments. Sekera was OK as well but the rest of the defense was totally overwhelmed. RNH and Ebs looked like over-paid kids against men – and while size is not a be all and end all – Dallas has size, skill and speed and they win this game 9 times out of 10. Hall is the only one out of the Hall-cluster who can play with these guys which is a pretty sad state of affairs after this many years.

    Honestly I’ve felt far better after several loses this year then after watching that mess.

  15. striatic says:

    Nikitin with a 4 game points streak in Bakersfield.

  16. meanashell11 says:

    I do not comment often but read religiously.

    Last night Anders stole that game but I did not see what a lot of others are saying. Sekera was either great or a tire fire and both happened on any given shift. I thought RNH and Ebs were decent, if Ebs could bury any of the chances he had with RNH this does not go to OT and we are talking about 3 lines contributing.

    The D generally ran around but Klef played a decent game against a very strong team, Fayne was a disaster…..

    It looked like the Stars ran out of gas, many of them were gasping on the ice in the third, especially during the PP’s.

    I was scanning the crowd wondering which was WG!

    Next up Buffalo and they wont be easy, I hope the Oil do not under estimate them.

  17. Philosophil says:

    Stole this from ON this morning – NHL to scrap compensation for signing fired exec/coaches. Apologies if its been discussed here already:

    http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/901477

  18. russ99 says:

    Woodguy,

    Not counting Schultz? Also Davidson has done a good job moving the puck too. I think you guys looking for the perfect tape to tape breakout pass to solve everything are asking a bit too much, especially if it’s going to end up in the cycle anyway.

    Improvement on that end would be nice, but it’s not like we’re totally lacking and I’d prefer the new top D be of the Chara/Seabrook/Byfuglien style, an own zone assassin and lethal shot from the point rather than another puck mover with some shaky own zone sorties.

  19. vishcosity says:

    So to understand,

    Dialogue about nato shooting brown people: NOT OKAY.

    Dialogue about brown people shooting white people: TOLERATED.

    Silence on government unsanctioned topics: PREFERRED.

    I said the other day that I had now become a statist but inadvertently got whirled back by all the truth-seeking dialogue.

    Sorry I let you down. I’ll try and keep my passion honour and creative drive away from alberta.

    Q: Why do you think the art gallery in edmonton is such a disaster?

    moderate away.

  20. GCW_69 says:

    Woodguy:
    Pacific standing

    LAK +6
    SJS +2
    ARI 0
    ———————————
    VAN -2
    ANA -3
    CAL -5
    EDM -6

    55 games left to make up 6 games.

    Giving up 40 shots per game, averaging less than two goals for in regulation, and the Bettman point barrier all stand between this team and playoffs. Until the first two are fixed we should enjoy the ride Nilsson is taking us on but not get deluded into talk of playoffs.

  21. hunter1909 says:

    vishcosity: Q: Why do you think the art gallery in edmonton is such a disaster?
    moderate away.

    1 – Alberta is a primary resource driven economy. Art tends to take a back seat.

    2 – Anyone in Alberta who purports to be artistic needs to have their head examined.

    3 – The Edmonton Oilers are a team in the National Hockey League.

  22. GCW_69 says:

    russ99:
    Woodguy,

    Not counting Schultz? Also Davidson has done a good job moving the puck too. I think you guys looking for the perfect tape to tape breakout pass to solve everything are asking a bit too much, especially if it’s going to end up in the cycle anyway.

    Improvement on that end would be nice, but it’s not like we’re totally lacking and I’d prefer the new top D be of theChara/Seabrook/Byfuglien style, an own zone assassin and lethal shot from the point rather than another puck mover with some shaky own zone sorties.

    Agreed Davidson is a decent puck mover.

    The problem with the defence is the one the Oilers always have – playing people above their established ability.

    #1 – Sekera
    Klefbom – Fayne
    Nurse – Davidson

    is kinda what they should be running, except of course for the gaping hole at the number one spot.

  23. böök¡je says:

    vishcosity,

    Here’s the thing. I can get all of the political discussion I want from other sources, ranging from high quality discussion in places like the Times to the batshit crazy stuff my redneck ‘friends’ post on Facebook.

    This site is devoted to hockey AND discussion of eclectic trivial things.

    Your assertion that LT is racist in his moderation is simply inappropriate. LT’s moderation may be intermittent but I think it is balanced and fair. You may simply be a person who seeks to be offended and/or a victim at every opportunity. It’s a great approach to life if you never want to be happy.

    I’ll admit that I actually haven’t read the discussion above that you are referring to, but am basing my comments on my long term experience in this blog.

    I think you should apologize to LT or simply move on and take your act elsewhere.

    If I’ve misinterpreted something here, please feel free to correct me and I’ll happily withdraw my comment.

  24. Woodguy says:

    russ99:
    Woodguy,

    Not counting Schultz? Also Davidson has done a good job moving the puck too. I think you guys looking for the perfect tape to tape breakout pass to solve everything are asking a bit too much, especially if it’s going to end up in the cycle anyway.

    Improvement on that end would be nice, but it’s not like we’re totally lacking and I’d prefer the new top D be of theChara/Seabrook/Byfuglien style, an own zone assassin and lethal shot from the point rather than another puck mover with some shaky own zone sorties.

    I don’t think Schultz is a very good passer.

    Good passing includes making the right decision on who to pass it to.

    Agree about Davidson, can’t believe I missed him.

    Exiting the zone with possession solves more problems than I can count on this team.

    Why does Hall drive possession and therefore goals?

    He takes the puck from dzone to ozone (usually by himself)

    I lost count at all the “off the glass and outs” last night.

    Those result in the opposition coming at the Oilers in wave after wave because the Oilers can’t keep the puck when they get it

  25. The Trade Guy says:

    Is Edmonton’s Gallery having issues? Saskatoon’s seems to have good buzz for the most part apart from the typical complaining from Prairie folk who hate anything built with public funds if they can’t drive their truck on it.

  26. Woodguy says:

    vishcosity:
    So to understand,

    Dialogue about nato shooting brown people:NOT OKAY.

    Dialogue about brown people shooting white people:TOLERATED.

    Silence on government unsanctioned topics:PREFERRED.

    I said the other day that I had now become a statist but inadvertently got whirled back by all the truth-seeking dialogue.

    Sorry I let you down.I’ll try and keep my passion honour and creative drive away from alberta.

    Q:Why do you think the art gallery in edmonton is such a disaster?

    moderate away.

    You typed that in the wrong place.

  27. Woodguy says:

    GCW_69: Giving up 40 shots per game, averaging less than two goals for in regulation, and the Bettman point barrier all stand between this team and playoffs.Until the first two are fixed we should enjoy the ride Nilsson is taking us on but not get deluded into talk of playoffs.

    Fuck that.

    As long as the Oilers are that close, I’m bringing it up.

    CGY was awful last year and made it, so fuck it if they get in on Nilsson’s back.

  28. The Trade Guy says:

    Woodguy: I don’t think Schultz is a very good passer.

    Good passing includes making the right decision on who to pass it to.

    Agree about Davidson, can’t believe I missed him.

    Exiting the zone with possession solves more problems than I can count on this team.

    Why does Hall drive possession and therefore goals?

    He takes the puck from dzone to ozone (usually by himself)

    I lost count at all the “off the glass and outs” last night.

    Those result in the opposition coming at the Oilers in wave after wave because the Oilers can’t keep the puck when they get it

    Agreed and I really wonder what Todd thinks of his team. I’m gonna ask a WHL coach (if he watches the Oilers) to explain to me why in a game like this the Stars seem to be in the right place all the time putting on pressure and giving the Oilers little time and its almost the complete opposite the other way around)

    Like what are players not doing that they should be doing? I have to think that the Oilers have enough good players to be able to do this for good chunks of the game but they seem to be terrible for entire periods at times.

  29. BONE207 says:

    böök¡je,

    Ya…this!!!
    Al is a man who has attained a higher level of understanding about the way the world works. In Al we trust.
    How about them Oilers!!!

  30. Kmart99 says:

    Woodguy:

    I lost count at all the “off the glass and outs” last night.

    Those result in the opposition coming at the Oilers in wave after wave because the Oilers can’t keep the puck when they get it

    Yup. I made note of the opposite occurring against LA and CHI. For a large number of games it seemed like this team was able to exit with possession and enter with possession.

    Off the glass and out, combined with the dump and change = Last night’s shit kicking.

    I recognize that both these plays have their place in the game, but they are often a result of poor play prior to the fact. Fear of a turnover is the primary driver of these decisions, and last night I lost count of how many zone clearing wacks at the puck resulted in turnovers.

  31. BONE207 says:

    Woodguy: Fuck that.

    As long as the Oilers are that close, I’m bringing it up.

    CGY was awful last year and made it, so fuck it if they get in on Nilsson’s back.

    That’s right. Nilly is part of the team. Until they can all play together as a well oiled machine, sometimes one or two guys are going to have to win it on their own. Learning on the job while winning is sweet!!

  32. Woodguy says:

    The Trade Guy,

    Agreed and I really wonder what Todd thinks of his team

    Just look at TOI

    Coaches say many words, but they coach to win the games.

    Last night McLellan benched Fayne for most of it and Schultz still didn’t play 13min 5v5

    Here’s the 5v5 TOI for the Dmen last night:

    Nurse 20:06
    Klefbom 18:28
    Sekera 17:41
    Gryba 17:32
    Schultz 12:33
    Fayne 6:48

  33. BONE207 says:

    I often wonder how do coaches assess players in a game. How did TMac realize quickly that Fayne was not good and played him less while probably assessing the other 22 players as well. Asst coaches help I guess but still quite the in game fluidity of observation.

  34. Kmart99 says:

    BONE207:
    I often wonder how do coaches assess players in a game. How did TMac realize quickly that Fayne was not good and played him less while probably assessing the other 22 players as well. Asst coaches help I guess but still quite the in game fluidity of observation.

    Something tells me it isn’t as complicated as one might think.
    Fayne was getting walked, beat to pucks, losing pucks even when he won the race, and passing to the other team…. The eye matched the numbers in a horrible way last night for Mark.

    Usually a half decent hockey fan can sniff out a poor player pretty easily.

    We rely on coach to figure out how good Ebs, Nuge, Nurse, and Klefbom are. My eye says they are all amazing and can be major pieces to a winning team. I trust Todd with their evaluation more than myself.

    Although the treatment of many players in the past definitely seemed odd as well. I think it’s safe to say that MacT’s assessment of Defensemen is worse than most posters on this blog. That’s not hyperbole.

    I will also say that MacT’s assessment of forwards is top notch. The forwards he was able to draft, sign and trade for were often undervalued by others.

  35. blainer says:

    Woodguy: I don’t think Schultz is a very good passer.

    Good passing includes making the right decision on who to pass it to.

    Agree about Davidson, can’t believe I missed him.

    Exiting the zone with possession solves more problems than I can count on this team.

    Why does Hall drive possession and therefore goals?

    He takes the puck from dzone to ozone (usually by himself)

    I lost count at all the “off the glass and outs” last night.

    Those result in the opposition coming at the Oilers in wave after wave because the Oilers can’t keep the puck when they get it

    This.

    Well said I was so frustrated with the off the glass shit.. All that kept going through my mind was Darrell Sutter’s puck possession comment.

    I am done with Shultz he plays like a pussy with no compete.

    He will have to do truly magic things for me to change my mind. Not to mention that back injuries are chronic ala Tiger Woods.. Move on from him asap and use that cap money on better players.

  36. Sherp007 says:

    vishcosity,

    I’ll be at the game in Tampa Vish
    I live in Orlando:)
    Email me
    Pipelinemediallc@gmail

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