G31 2015-16: OILERS AT BRUINS

The Oilers and Bruins are connected in many ways. Harry Sinden coached Glen Sather, and those two gentlemen engineered the Moog—Ranford trade (among others). Both teams won Stanleys in difficult times (Bruins during the Beliveau—Dryden era and Edmonton during the Islanders—Flyers—Bruins—Flames era of the 1980s).

DIRTY WATER, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2014: 4-5-1
  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0
  • Oilers in November 2014: 2-9-3
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2
  • Oilers in December 2014: 2-8-4
  • Oilers in December 2015: 5-0-0
  • Oilers after 30 in 2014-15: 7-18-5, 19 points (-43 GD)
  • Oilers after 30 in 2015-16: 13-15-2, 28 points (-8 GD)

The Bruins always have a stud on defense. From Eddie Shore (The Edmonton Express!) to Bobby Orr to Raymond Bourque to Zdeno Chara, I do not think you can identify a Boston Stanley without an impact blue.

  • 1929: Eddie Shore was 25 and on the top of his game.
  • 1939: Shore was 35, and Dit Clapper plus Flash Hollett were at their peak.
  • 1941: More Clapper and Hollett.
  • 1970: Bobby Orr, say no more.
  • 1972: Bobby Orr, say no more.
  • 2011: Zdeno Chara blocks out the sun.

For Edmonton, the five Stanley’s arrived via a different route: Unbridled offense.

  • 1984: Gretzky (205), Kurri, Coffey, Messier all over 100 points.
  • 1985: Gretzky (208), Kurri, Coffey all over 100 points.
  • 1987: Gretzky, Kurri, Messer all over 100 points.
  • 1988: Gretzky, Messier over 100 points, Kurri at 96.
  • 1990: Messier over 100 points, Kurri at 93.

The Oilers, like the Bruins in 2011, are destined to repeat history.  Bet the offense. Bet McDavid, Hall and Draisaitl, and bet heavily on this team outscoring mistakes.

THREE SCORING LINES ARE COMING

espo

The first real “hockey” line I remember was the Phil Esposito-Wayne Cashman-Kenny Hodge line on the great Bruins teams 70-75. Esposito was big and strong and scored goals from the slot, park his ass in there and no one could move him. He could score goals from the slot like no one before or since (and that includes Tim Kerr), and was helped by Wayne Cashman’s hard work (he was a Ryan Smyth-type in terms of effort, worked all night in the corners) and Hodge was a smooth winger who could pass the puck, shoot and make plays. Boston had a slick second line (Fred Stanfield centered Johnny Bucyk and Johnny McKenzie) and a surprisingly effective third line (Derek Sanderson and Ed Westfall were expert penalty killers and usually played with a youngster who had good tools, like Wayne Carleton or Garnet Bailey).

When healthy, the Oilers have three terrific C’s and some depth players who can help with the PK and slide in on the PP as required.

oilers centers over season

This group will cost a fortune by the time Leon and McDavid hit their second contracts, and the Oil may be somewhat vulnerable to offer sheets—suspect we see both men signed early in the window of opportunity. I think Nuge is a very important part of this trio—if you replace him, bringing in another veteran center is vital—and that doesn’t change imo until both McDavid and Draisaitl are in their secon contracts.

oil forwards over season

Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Benoit Pouliot and Nail Yakupov are the obvious candidates to join the three centers above—that gets us to seven. It is not an easy eight, because Pouliot and Yakupov are complementary players reliant on someone to drive their line—and, despite exceptional scoring skill—we could include Jordan Eberle on that list. The wingers Edmonton currently employs are probably the most replaceable, and I think this is also where we will see some savings.

Candidates to move up to the scoring lines? Signing Teddy Purcell to a one-year deal at reasonable dollars is a good idea in my opinion. It gives the team a little more time to develop Anton Slepyshev and to see if Iiro Pakarinen can fill an offensive role.

  • Hall—Draisaitl—Purcell
  • Pouliot—McDavid—Yakupov
  • Slepyshev—RNH—Eberle

The Oilers have a dandy set of forwards, and you could spend some dollars on a Lucic, but for me bringing back Purcell has appeal. If Peter Chiarelli stays the course at forward next season, no one should be upset about it.

klefbom tweet

The Klefbom issue is short term, so that is good news. That said, it does not help tonight. Darnell Nurse and Andrej Sekera will have to play a lot more this evening and I am not certain it is wise.

OILERS DEFENSE OVER SEASON

Yesterday in practice, Todd McLellan kept the Nurse—Sekera pairing together, suspect we see either Ference or Nikitin draw in with (probably) Justin Schultz. I would run the blue this way during Klefbom’s absence:

  • Sekera—Fayne
  • Nurse—Schultz
  • Davidson—Gryba

That is tough to do with Fayne in the AHL. I think Todd McLellan is a really smart guy, and he knows a helluva lot more than I do about coaching an NHL team. I believe he has made a mistake. I fear it will cost games and tonight is one of them. You are free to call me an idiot for questioning the coach, but it will not change my mind. Mark Fayne should be on the first flight out of LAX this morning. It is the right thing to do.

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LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy, fun morning beginning at 10 on TSN1260.

  • Scott Burnside, ESPN. Alberta teams on the rise, no trades but will something break soon?
  • Matt Iwanyk, TSN1260. The Eskimos have decided on their coach, and he is pretty famous in this city.
  • Sunil Agnihotri, Copper & Blue and The SuperFan. Sunil didn’t see the 80s, so I am eager to get his reaction to Friday night’s game.
  • Andy Eide, ESPN Seattle. Ethan Bear had an enormous week, including a hat trick, but was hurt on the weekend. We will check in with Andy on an emerging prospect.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. leadfarmer says:

    Talbot is covered in puck marks which summarizes this game perfectly.

  2. G Money says:

    Nice hook of the stick out of the hands of Hendricks.

    Sure as shit that would have been called if that was an Oiler doing the hooking.

  3. geowal says:

    This is the longest penalty kill I’ve seen in ages. Oh wait.

  4. Centre of attention says:

    Talbot gets them a point. 50 something saves?

  5. LMHF#1 says:

    Pathetic effort after that 2-0 lead. PP chances and nothing.

    Props to the Coach on the Talbot start. Turns out it was the right call.

  6. Centre of attention says:

    geowal:
    This is the longest penalty kill I’ve seen in ages.Oh wait.

    Period and a half PK, not bad.

  7. Lowetide says:

    They get a point, and really that is a win considering the second period.

  8. G Money says:

    Undeserved point!

    Very Canucks-like.

    If we can fluke out another one, I guess that would make it very Phlegms-like.

  9. LadiesloveSmid says:

    a point in a night they do not at all deserve one

    hats off to MVP Talbot

    they better go into NY with a fire in their bellies tomorrow, this was a pretty putrid effort in the latter 40

  10. Ryan says:

    On a positive note, Talbot’s had a good game.

  11. Lucinius says:

    Did not deserve that point.

    But, I wanted us to get 4 points on this road trip (I was expecting the Oilers to lose tonight, tomorrow and against Chicago, so wanted us to get a loser point against one of those and beat the Aves). Just need another 3 now.

  12. Centre of attention says:

    Lowetide:
    They get a point, and really that is a win consideringthe second period.

    The third wasn’t pretty either.

  13. tcho says:

    My goodness – I don’t think I want to see GMoney’s corsi trend line for this past stretch of ten games or so…

  14. PhrankLee says:

    Awesome. A point where we deserved/ expected none.

    Clap, clap!!

  15. Ice Sage says:

    This road trip is officially a success!

  16. Henry says:

    Talbot, Eberle and the Nuge softly acquire a point that the Oilers don’t deserve. Perhaps another.

  17. leadfarmer says:

    Well at least we raised Nikitins value to a conditional 7th rounder in 2038 if we retain salary, so that’s good at least.

  18. square_wheels says:

    Fucking beauty

  19. Lowetide says:

    Sekera bitches.

  20. LMHF#1 says:

    Thank gawd.

    Props to Talbot. What a game.

  21. Lucinius says:

    HAH!

    Find ways to win games you shouldn’t.

  22. Henry says:

    Oh yes

  23. Ryan says:

    If I were a Bruins fan, that would hurt.

  24. marty62 says:

    fukkin eh we steal another one! Thanks TALBOT!!!!1

  25. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Sorcery!

  26. Centre of attention says:

    Sekera you beautiful Bastard.

    THE STREAK GOES ON!!!

  27. BeerMe says:

    HAHA WHAT

  28. Gret99zky says:

    They don’t ask how.

  29. geowal says:

    That was a 3 on 3 clinic.

  30. Loyal2theoil says:

    Seky!!!

  31. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Sekera!!

    2P in a night they didn’t deserve 1! We’re the 2015 flames!

  32. Ice Sage says:

    Sick-era!!!!! Posession stats pretty good for OT.

  33. Keith says:

    Sweet Georgia Brown!! I love this team in the 3 on 3….

  34. Mattaklap says:

    So Oilers. Lovely.

  35. rich says:

    We’ll take it.

  36. Oil2Oilers says:

    That was not fair the Oilers are too talented 3 v 3 !!!

  37. godot10 says:

    Killing them softly!

  38. leadfarmer says:

    Well my goodness

  39. marty62 says:

    we are in a playoff spot holy jumpin……

  40. square_wheels says:

    G Money,

    “Deserve’s got nothing to do with it ” – William Money, killer of woman and children and nearly everything else that’s walked or crawled.

  41. striatic says:

    Questionable player selection to start the 3 on 3 for Boston. Cost them a point.

  42. Centre of attention says:

    Gret99zky:
    They don’t ask how.

    They ask how many, and the Oilers have 32 points!

  43. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Eberle up to 10P in 18GP. Certainly not great, but he was at like 3P in 11. Think his ES P/60 was like 0.5 before tonight

  44. Pretendergast says:

    I feel like Calgary last year.

    Talbot with the mother of all comeback games!

    6 game win streak!

  45. leadfarmer says:

    Now just quietly leave Ference in the Bruins locker room on the way out of town and hope they don’t notice.

  46. Younger Oil says:

    LadiesloveSmid:

    2P in a night they didn’t deserve 1! We’re the 2015 flames!

    That’s what worries me the most right now. It’s great to be winning close games, but it just doesn’t feel sustainable.

    Yes. they’re missing their entire second line, so it will help when they all come back, I just hope that fans aren’t getting their expectations too high and just enjoying the ride.

  47. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Fancy stats be damned! Long live the Oilers!

  48. Ice Sage says:

    Ryan:
    If I were a Bruins fan, that would hurt.

    Oh, Oilers fans know exactly how that feels, but usually giving up the GWG in the last 2 min of regulation. Good times. 2 goalies.

  49. Centre of attention says:

    First win in Boston since 1996, and the streak goes on…

  50. hunter1909 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Now just quietly leave Ference in the Bruins locker room on the way out of town and hope they don’t notice.

    This.

  51. blainer says:

    Wow.. I called it earlier .. Nuge Ebs and Talbot !!

    Sekera !!

    We are catching up to those games we lost when we outplayed the opposing team..

    A complete steal of a game..

    Thanks Cam !!

  52. russ99 says:

    Great play Sekera.

    Didn’t deserve that one, but I’ll take it!

    Good to see Talbot bring it, other than that one semi-softie.

  53. marty62 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Now just quietly leave Ference in the Bruins locker room on the way out of town and hope they don’t notice.

    Hahaha and you win the internet………

  54. striatic says:

    leadfarmer:
    Now just quietly leave Ference in the Bruins locker room on the way out of town and hope they don’t notice.

    I think they’ve tried everything else.

  55. Soup Fascist says:

    Whoa …… A win in Boston.

    Connor, you have to see this.

  56. thurmtim says:

    Deserves got nuttin’ to do wit it…(Clint Eastwood drawl).

  57. Halfwise says:

    I’m beginning to understand why Flames fans were so insufferable last year.

    Moral victories don’t feel good, truth be told. Immoral victories, on the other hand…

  58. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Gazdic was 1-15 according to the corgis. How did they let him play 8 minutes? Or dress?

  59. Lackadaisical says:

    Whew Oil! Glad we got through that ugly game!

  60. boxman says:

    So did Boston touch the puck in overtime?

  61. marty62 says:

    Halfwise:
    I’m beginning to understand why Flames fans were so insufferable last year.

    Moral victories don’t feel good, truth be told. Immoral victories, on the other hand…

    Immoral things are always more fun than moral things………

  62. godot10 says:

    Without Klefbom, it was always going to be rope-a-dope. The thing is to bend and not break.

  63. Quinlan says:

    Shots = 49-24

    But that’s score effects for you.

  64. OF17 says:

    marty62:
    we are in a playoff spot holy jumpin……

    Yep. ROW breaks the tie with Arizona for 3rd in the Pacific. It’s mid December, and the Oilers are in a playoff position.

  65. boxman says:

    Halfwise:
    I’m beginning to understand why Flames fans were so insufferable last year.

    Moral victories don’t feel good, truth be told. Immoral victories, on the other hand…

    this

  66. thurmtim says:

    Oops someone beat me to the Munney quote… Faster typer than me!

  67. Ice Sage says:

    boxman:
    So did Boston touch the puck in overtime?

    Nope. As another poster said, weird selection of players for B’s.

  68. Centre of attention says:

    Can we win in Boston?

    Yes we Cam!

  69. Pajamah says:

    Today, the Edmonton Oilers are in the playoffs, and it’s after the 4th game of the season.

    Fitting that Dallas is the #1 seed. Shame the new playoff configuration wouldn’t allow for that in the first round.

    And yes, I am getting ahead of myself. I’m allowed to, at least until tomorrow

  70. striatic says:

    boxman:
    So did Boston touch the puck in overtime?

    Not really, and it almost looked like they purposely gave Edmonton the puck on the opening face-off of OT. Weird.

    Why the Bruins put those players out to start an OT is beyond me. Ferraro, Krug and Spooner? Really?

  71. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Quinlan:
    Shots = 49-27

    But that’s score effects for you.

    score adjusted CF is 61-30

    EDM was at about 17 after the first, dismal dismal effort

  72. godot10 says:

    You guys realize what day tomorrow is.

    The Oilers will be in a playoff position on the anniversary of being dementor-free for one year!

  73. Soup Fascist says:

    The “Trade Nuge and Eberle RFN” crowd are quiet tonight.

    Must be out stocking up on torches and pitchforks.

  74. Melvis says:

    Tightened sphincter wasn’t bothering me tonight, for some reason. Didn’t even concern me at 2-2. Weird, weird, weird. Willing to go out on a limb untightened. I love this team.

  75. jake70 says:

    What a strange feeling….going to NHL.com on a day beyond November and clicking on conference instead of league standings. Sidenote – Oilers would draft 9th overall today.

  76. G Money says:

    Damn Bruins have redlined the axis limits on my game flow chart!!!!!

    http://i.imgur.com/u3crwU9.png

  77. Ryan says:

    Lowetide:
    Sekera bitches.

    Feels good saying it, doesn’t it? 🙂

  78. blainer says:

    Soup Fascist:
    The “Trade Nuge and Eberle RFN” crowd are quiet tonight”.

    Must be out stocking up on torches and pitchforks.

    Yup the beginning of the end of the trade RNH talk.. He’s just getting started as Ebs is back on his game too.

  79. Lucinius says:

    So.. Eakins coached 31 games last year before being turfed. McLennan has now coached 31 for the Oilers;

    Eakins 2014-2015: 7-19-5 (19 points), 65 goals for (2.1 avg/game), 105 goals against (3.39 avg/game).
    McLennan 2015-2016: 14-15-2 (30 points), 85 goals for (2.74 avg/game), 92 goals against (2.97 avg/game).

    Goaltending, and to a lesser extent, structure a big reason for the drop in goals against (still too high, imo, but the Oilers D still sucks/in-experienced, and the defensive help from the forwards is still.. lacking, to put it nicely). The goals for, however, is a nice, big boost. MOre than half a goal higher average per game. With McDavid only playing 12 of the 31 games.

    Is this streak sustainable? No. Oilers will lose soon. But, often you see teams at the tail end of winning streaks grab a couple they didn’t really deserve, much like at the tail end of losing streaks you lose a few that you really should have won.

    Still… as bad as the Oilers are (and they remain bad), it’s a whole lot easier to cheer for the team when they remain a relevant team in the NHL and not the team you hope never comes up in conversation.

  80. Zelepukin says:

    Soup Fascist:
    The “Trade Nuge and Eberle RFN” crowd are quiet tonight.

    Must be out stocking up on torches and pitchforks.

    Probably the opposite, now they’ll be all like, Eberle straight up for Weber or Nuge for OEL.

  81. fifthcartel says:

    Did Talbot’s save percentage just jump back to .926 or am I really bad at adding and subtracting?

    edit: Yes i am. He’s back at .904, though.

  82. Gordies Elbow says:

    Edmonton just won a game in Boston.

    Without Pouliot

    Without Klefbom

    Without Yakupov

    Without Nilsson

    Wtihout McDavid.

    Wow.

  83. Soup Fascist says:

    blainer: Yup the beginning of the end of the trade RNH talk.. He’s just getting started as Ebs is back on his game too.

    As bad as the Oilers looked Nuge had his legs won a lot of races. And the passing in OT was sublime. Unbelievable clinic on how to play 3 on 3.

    Wow. The boys got fed for 50 minutes, though. Talbot made some crazy saves. Full marks. No more muffin goals though.

  84. Halfwise says:

    Lucinius: But, often you see teams at the tail end of winning streaks grab a couple they didn’t really deserve, much like at the tail end of losing streaks you lose a few that you really should have won.

    Truth right here.

    Still, they had a valid goal called back, again, and then gave up the lead, and still won it. Last year’s team would have folded like a Zeller’s tent.

  85. Lucinius says:

    I’m actually still in the trade Eberle camp. Something has to give on the Oilers and he’s the best candidate. Yes, he’s good offensively (not good defensively, however) and it’d suck to lose him. However, he has a lot of value (name recognition, offensive ability, a decent cap hit considering past offensive production and age, etc.), whereas the other expendables don’t have anywhere near the same degree of trade value.

    That said, Eberle is a guy you trade in the off-season. You are very unlikely to get a proper return for him during the season as teams with good defenders aren’t going to trade them going into the playoffs.

    RNH, on the other hand, is, and always has been, on my untradeable list. I trade Hall before I trade RNH (granted, I only trade Hall if the return is massive and possibly only if he’s demanded a trade). Center depth is something you need. Worst case scenario one of he or Draisatl moves to wing.

  86. Centre of attention says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    Edmonton just won a game in Boston.

    Without Pouliot

    Without Klefbom

    Without Yakupov

    Without Nilsson

    Wtihout McDavid.

    Wow.

    This needs a re-post.

    I’m still flubbering around wondering how I should feel.

  87. hodgkins says:

    Another great thing about where the OIlers are right now is that they are almost through a really tough part of the schedule to start the season. After the Chicago game in a few days the schedule looks remarkably softer.

  88. Soup Fascist says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    Edmonton just won a game in Boston.

    Without Pouliot

    Without Klefbom

    Without Yakupov

    Without Nilsson

    Wtihout McDavid.

    Wow.

    With Nikitin.

    Double wow.

  89. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    Sekera bitches.

    2nd best Oiler tonight behind Talbot

  90. Zelepukin says:

    Soup Fascist: With Nikitin.

    Double wow.

  91. RexLibris says:

    Soup Fascist: With Nikitin.

    Double wow.

    Yeah, but if they’d dressed Ference they could’ve won in regulation.

  92. Woodguy says:

    PACIFIC DIVISION STANDINGS VIA GAMES (ALL TIES BROKEN W/ ROW)

    LAK +11
    ARI 0
    SJS 0
    —————
    EDM -1
    CAL -1
    VAN -1
    ANA -2

  93. Quinlan says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    Twas a joke, my friend

  94. striatic says:

    Lucinius:
    I’m actually still in the trade Eberle camp. Something has to give on the Oilers and he’s the best candidate. Yes, he’s good offensively (not good defensively, however) and it’d suck to lose him. However, he has a lot of value (name recognition, offensive ability, a decent cap hit considering past offensive production and age, etc.), whereas the other expendables don’t have anywhere near the same degree of trade value.

    Sell high.

    I get it, but positionally it is tough to sell. Somebody needs to play RW, and that currently isn’t a position of strength for the Oilers.

  95. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Nurse a 24% CF on the night

    if only they had the personnel to drop the 20YO two pairings

  96. Soup Fascist says:

    RexLibris: Yeah, but if they’d dressed Ference they could’ve won in regulation.

    Honestly, I saw 21 on the ice for the Bruins and thought the whole Ference thing was just a bad dream.

    Damn you, Louie Eriksson!

  97. stevezie says:

    “Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”

    They should teach that truth in schools.

  98. striatic says:

    Woodguy:
    PACIFIC DIVISION STANDINGS VIA GAMES (ALL TIES BROKEN W/ ROW)

    LAK +11
    ARI 0
    SJS 0
    —————
    EDM -1
    CAL -1
    VAN -1
    ANA -2

    The -7 Goal Differential is where this looks like it maybe isn’t a mirage.

    Calgary at -25 is lucky to still be in the hunt, Anaheim and Arizona likewise.

  99. Woodguy says:

    striatic: The -7 Goal Differential is where this looks like it maybe isn’t a mirage.

    Calgary at -25 is lucky to still be in the hunt, Anaheim and Arizona likewise.

    Can’t wait until the Oilers get back what was the most productive 5v5 line in hockey when McLavical went down.

    And add a RHD.

    They’re so close.

  100. alice13 says:

    This winning streak is starting to remind me of the Seinfeld episode where they go joy-riding in a dealership car.
    The needle’s on empty but it Just Keeps Going!!

    I hope there’s still some funny shows on TV for the next gen. (No idea, as I never turn the thing on except to see that I’m in a Regional Blackout when the Oilers are playing)

  101. Centre of attention says:

    Can someone make me a gif of Eberle roofing that shot in the first period?

  102. Soup Fascist says:

    Woodguy: Can’t wait until the Oilers get back what was the most productive 5v5 line in hockey when McLavical went down.

    And add a RHD.

    They’re so close.

    I have not been convinced this whole 3 scoring line thing is possible.

    But if it works somebody is going to be catching some tasty match ups. That much is true.

  103. Woodguy says:

    Oiler’s weren’t good, but lordy the bottom 6 CF%:

    Hendricks 24%
    Korpikoski 19%
    Letestu 19%
    Lander 18%
    Pakarinen 13%
    Gazdic 6%

    Yikes!

  104. RexLibris says:

    Woodguy:
    PACIFIC DIVISION STANDINGS VIA GAMES (ALL TIES BROKEN W/ ROW)

    LAK +11
    ARI 0
    SJS 0
    —————
    EDM -1
    CAL -1
    VAN -1
    ANA -2

    You probably saw MB McCurdy’s updated standings projections today.

    The SJS line is astonishing and worthy of a storyline all its own. They are crashing terribly right now.

  105. AsiaOil says:

    I’m delighted the Oilers got a point but the corgis are going to be some kind of awful. The team collectively got it’s head kicked in but rode a hot goalie and Chara doing his best TCAF impression on RNH’s goal to victory. Also happy RNH and Eberle answered the bell – good on them. The team desperately needed that with all the injuries. Talbot also came through and I’d come right back with him tomorrow night. That said – we all know the gaps in this lineup – and development is not going to address all of these. Mac will not be pleased at all tonight. That top pair RH dman is not coming for free as even a UFA is going to cost a ton of cap space. The better everyone plays the less it will cost in the end to get the guys we need.

    With all the injuries and the schedule it’s a bloody miracle that they are where they are. Two more points on this trip and they will have survived this segment. TMac won’t allow them to feel too good about themselves but lady luck giveth and she taketh away – tonight we had a bit of payback for Klef’s unfortunately incident.

  106. square_wheels says:

    Woodguy,

    That bottom 6 needs a serious makeover, such as McDavid, yak and pou.

    Send Jultz anywhere and give Davidson his money.

  107. RexLibris says:

    striatic: The -7 Goal Differential is where this looks like it maybe isn’t a mirage.

    Calgary at -25 is lucky to still be in the hunt, Anaheim and Arizona likewise.

    A lot of those GDs were banked early in the season, for both EDM and CGY when the Oilers faced the murderer’s row in the Central and neither Hiller nor Ramo could stop anything to save their lives.

    The CGY goaltending has been improving very slowly and the Oilers are chipping away at theirs albeit with a number of 1-goal games.

    What the GD comes down to is whether the Flames lost their playoff chances in October and the Oilers can sustain their progress in close-scoring games, preferably without giving up 50 shots against/game.

  108. AsiaOil says:

    Agree – they are close – and the dman will make a world of difference to the breakouts which were bloody tire-fire the entire 2nd & 3rd period.

    Woodguy: Can’t wait until the Oilers get back what was the most productive 5v5 line in hockey when McLavical went down.

    And add a RHD.

    They’re so close.

  109. fifthcartel says:

    The bottom six is pretty awful, what I’m worried most for is Hendricks and Korpikoski. Even limited to a 4th line role next year is a pretty scary line, Korpikoski has been enforcer-level bad and Hendricks will be 35 next year. I know Chiarelli probably likes both of them but I hope these aren’t the bottom-six players next year.

  110. G Money says:

    Shot data up: https://oilersnerdalert.wordpress.com/2015/12/14/g31-2015-12-14-oilers-at-boston-booo-urns-shot-and-distance-data/

    Yeah, it looks like what you’d expect. Only good news is that the Dangerous Fenwicks trail the Fenwicks by a fairly wide margin, so it wasn’t quite as dominating as the raw numbers say. Still dominated, just not quite so utterly!

  111. Lackadaisical says:

    Here’s something real: There’s hope in Oil country!

  112. Bag of Pucks says:

    fifthcartel:
    The bottom six is pretty awful, what I’m worried most for is Hendricks and Korpikoski. Even limited to a 4th line role next year is a pretty scary line, Korpikoski has been enforcer-level bad and Hendricks will be 35 next year. I know Chiarelli probably likes both of them but I hope these aren’t the bottom-six players next year.

    Enforcer level bad? I guess the love from Friday’s Hattie is already gone.

  113. fifthcartel says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    I mean possession-wise. Sorry, should have specified that.

  114. Bag of Pucks says:

    Draisaitl
    Pakarainen
    Khaira
    Davidson
    Nurse
    Nikitin

    For one reason or another, these are the players Chia has added to the lineup since the regular season started.

    Notice a common denominator?

    Size. The GM is getting the ‘heavy lineup’ he wants.

    The Bottom 6 is struggling. The D depth is poor. The entire second line is in sickbay.

    But this team FINALLY has some push back in the lineup.

    Size matters.

  115. Bag of Pucks says:

    In other news, I can’t see Anton Lander on this team once McDavid gets back.

  116. Colieo87 says:

    Hey didn’t watch the game cause I thought they would get a maybe a bettamen point at best. Boy was I wrong

  117. Lackadaisical says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    In other news, I can’t see Anton Lander on this team once McDavid gets back.

    Put him on the wing and get rid of the Korpse.

  118. Dicky94 says:

    Only 10 pts behind the Kings. Should be there by New Years at this pace.

  119. Colieo87 says:

    Rangers tomarrow oh boy!

  120. Bag of Pucks says:

    Lackadaisical: Put him on the wing and get rid of the Korpse.

    Korpikoski 6G 8P -5
    Lander 0G 2P -7

    Lander’s played 30 games. He’s got 2 assists.

    I’m all for putting him on the wing….of a plane.

  121. The Trade Guy says:

    Blood and guts effort from Talbot. I don’t care if the Oilers deserved to win. Road win while there is lots of injuries and Talbot had a big game.

  122. Halfwise says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    In other news, I can’t see Anton Lander on this team once McDavid gets back.

    If we’re lopping off players starting with the least effective, wouldn’t you drop Klink, Gazdic and Korpse first? And Letestu is no oil painting either.

    Tonight I saw Lander win draws, steal pucks, ruffle feathers and generally be hard to play against. Can’t piss a drop offensively this season but he and Pakarinen are about equivalent in my subjective view of the team.

  123. Bag of Pucks says:

    Halfwise: If we’re lopping off players starting with the least effective, wouldn’t you drop Klink, Gazdic and Korpse first? And Letestu is no oil painting either.

    Tonight I saw Lander win draws, steal pucks, ruffle feathers and generally be hard to play against. Can’t piss a drop offensively this season but he and Pakarinen are about equivalent in my subjective view of the team.

    The qualifier was ‘when McDavid gets back.’

    McDavid
    Drai
    RNH
    Letestu

    Those are the 4 best C options imo

  124. Ryan says:

    Bag of Pucks: Korpikoski 6G 8P -5
    Lander 0G 2P -7

    Lander’s played 30 games. He’s got 2 assists.

    I’m all for putting him on the wing….of a plane.

    I’d hate to say something asinine like I predicted this past summer that Lander’s offense would disappear… But I predicted this past summer that Lander’s offense would disappear. 🙂

  125. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    It is true. We really sized our way to the win tonight.

    How many of those players were simply recalled because the Oilers have had soooooooo many injuries? Chia also sent down Griffin when Jultz got back. Who has more size?

    Also Lander has been playing with Gaz recently. The same Gaz who was 1-15 according to the corgis. Barf. Marcus Kruger of the Blackhawks has 1 point in 31 games. Points are not everything. Context matters.

  126. marty62 says:

    Halfwise: If we’re lopping off players starting with the least effective, wouldn’t you drop Klink, Gazdic and Korpse first? And Letestu is no oil painting either.

    Tonight I saw Lander win draws, steal pucks, ruffle feathers and generally be hard to play against. Can’t piss a drop offensively this season but he and Pakarinen are about equivalent in my subjective view of the team.

    I agree he is a beast on face offs hes our younger cheaper Gordon . We never worried about how many pts Gordon got its about the role the kid plays. We have 3 other forward pairs that can score . I want lander to be my PK and shut down line

  127. Bag of Pucks says:

    Ryan: I’d hate to say something asinine like I predicted this past summer that Lander’s offense would disappear…But I predicted this past summer that Lander’s offense would disappear.

    Gryba has more points than Lander. Gryba ffs

  128. Lackadaisical says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Okay, but the whole bottom six hasn’t been scoring until recently. Korpse had one good game, and has otherwise been awful. Tonight’s a good example of the type of game he should be helping with but was instead a huge black hole.

    Lander’s winning the important faceoffs, has better possession numbers, is better on the penalty kill, and most importantly, he’s half the price of Korpicostly.

  129. Bag of Pucks says:

    Lackadaisical:
    Bag of Pucks,

    Okay, but the whole bottom six hasn’t been scoring until recently.Korpse had one good game, and has otherwise been awful.Tonight’s a good example of the type of game he should be helping with but was instead a huge black hole.

    Lander’s winning the important faceoffs, has better possession numbers, and most importantly, he’s half the price of Korpicostly.

    Is Lander better than Letestu? If no, why do you want him on the wing? He’s not going to take faceoffs there unless Letestu gets kicked out.

    Too slow to be an effective winger. Way too slow to be an effective C.

    The only time he’s gotten points is when Nelson had him playing the Holmstrom role on the PP.

    Korps has scored in this league at EVs in the past. Lander never has.

  130. Pouzar says:

    And the HFOilers have dropped by.

  131. Bag of Pucks says:

    Halfwise: If we’re lopping off players starting with the least effective, wouldn’t you drop Klink, Gazdic and Korpse first? And Letestu is no oil painting either.

    Ference is first on the lopping list btw. Always Ference.

  132. Centre of attention says:

    Nuge is on fire with face offs, don’t look now but in his last 9 games he has been 50% or better.

    He has averaged 56% over that span, to be exact. Somethings clicked?

  133. bsmart says:

    oilers in a playoff position for the first time this year, awe yeah!!

  134. Bag of Pucks says:

    Pouzar:
    And the HFOilers have dropped by.

    Thanks for introducing yourself.

  135. Lucinius says:

    Not getting the Lander hate.

    Offensively, yes, he’s been a black hole. However, a decent amount of that has been luck (he’s been the picture definition of snake-bitten) and line-mates.

    His other qualities put him above a number of other players, however. Face-offs, intensity, defensive acumen (better than Letestu on both counts, imo), pestiness, and, of course, cap hit.

    He’s a dirt cheap 4th C option that doesn’t provide much offence, but doesn’t need to and might be able to play up the line up if needed. Everything about him screams quality depth player, especially considering the cap hit and age.

    I’d drop Gazdic, Klink, Letestu and Korpse before Lander.

    If all you’re considering is points.. you’re missing the point of depth players in a cap era — and he’s shown offence at the NHL level before, albeit in a small sample size. But, he’s relatively young and has been ham-strung by shitty, shitty line-mates (and d-pairs, I believe).

  136. Lackadaisical says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Fair enough. I think he has value on this team, you do not. Agree to disagree!

  137. Pouzar says:

    Bag of Pucks: Thanks for introducing yourself.

    Hi IATL

  138. Bag of Pucks says:

    Lackadaisical:
    Bag of Pucks,

    Fair enough.I think he has value on this team, you do not. Agree to disagree!

    I think he has value if he’s chipping in the odd point. He’s not.

    I like a team where all the Fs are chipping in. For sure he’s far from the only culprit.

  139. Bag of Pucks says:

    Centre of attention:
    Nuge is on fire with face offs, don’t look now but in his last 9 games he has been 50% or better.

    He has averaged 56% over that span, to be exact. Somethings clicked?

    Let’s hope so.

  140. Melvis says:

    Bush League. Jim Sward was a heavy advocate of a few segments I produced at Roger’s Broadcast Productions and CHFI/CFTR when he was president of Roger’s Radio…before becoming president of Global.

    And the ad salesmen back then sold out every 4th minute to the international brands on the back of the five minute demo…in about five minutes. And those shows aired in 160 markets on ABC Radio in the US.

    And those were tasty dinners and champers at the late great Fentons in Toronto…courtesy of those ad men. LOL. Pure bush league censorship. LOL.

  141. Gerta Rauss says:

    oliveoilers: So enough of this; I got the Oilers surprising the Bruins again with a 3-2 squeaker. You?

    ding ding ding!!

  142. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Woodguy:
    Oiler’s weren’t good, but lordy the bottom 6 CF%:

    Hendricks 24%
    Korpikoski 19%
    Letestu 19%
    Lander 18%
    Pakarinen 13%
    Gazdic 6%

    Yikes!

    Same black hole as it was all year. That said, when McYakupou are back this becomes a 3 line team you can roll 18-18-18-6 in terms of minutes and cover up a ton of iasues.

    I know you know this already. Just reiterating.

  143. Pouzar says:

    Korpse. Gord Awful.

    Scariest WOWY numbers I have ever seen. He was actually better last year when he had a high ankle sprain.

    2015:
    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=961&withagainst=true&season=2015-16&sit=5v5

    2014:
    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=961&withagainst=true&season=2014-15&sit=5v5

  144. Zelepukin says:

    HEY EVERYONE WE ARE IN A PLAYOFF POSITION. THE EDMONTON OILERS. A TEAM IN THE NHL.

  145. dangilitis says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/stars-stay-no-1-in-nhl-power-rankings-1.409071

    #23 Oilers – Key Injuries: C Connor McDavid (clavicle), RW Nail Yakupov (ankle), LW Benoit Pouliot (lower body), D Oscar Klefbom (finger).

    #26 Flames – Key Injuries: LW Lance Bouma (fibula).

    So I guess the definition of “key” is a moving target…

  146. Gerta Rauss says:

    That was 50 minutes of cringe worthy hockey but I don’t care. I’ve watched enough losing I’m going to enjoy the wins even though we know the carriage is going to turn into a pumpkin.

    Nice confidence boost for Talbot, that was much needed

    I’d start Nilsson tomorrow

  147. Centre of attention says:

    Gerta Rauss:

    I’d start Nilsson tomorrow

    If it was up to me I would start Nilsson as well. But the smart money is on Talbot getting the start.

    He was phenomenal tonight, what could god wrong? (Lots I guess) But thats not the point!

  148. dangilitis says:

    Woodguy:
    PACIFIC DIVISION STANDINGS VIA GAMES (ALL TIES BROKEN W/ ROW)

    LAK +11
    ARI 0
    SJS 0
    —————
    EDM -1
    CAL -1
    VAN -1
    ANA -2

    This table is much more pleasing to look at. Especially after a drink or two…

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings#/conference

  149. Gerta Rauss says:

    Centre of attention: what could god wrong?

    Carriage/pumpkin…lol

    I’d go with your #1 guy in Nilsson and if they lose you go back to Talbot and his 1 game win streak in Chicago

  150. blackadder says:

    Bag of Pucks<!–

    But…since they replaced Reinhardt, Fayne and Klefbom (not to mention Klimkhammer and Slepyshev), we may actually have gotten smaller since the start of the year.

    The Oilers are more talented at forward and have been getting good goaltending. That’ll get you in the playoff hunt in December.

    As an aside, when you’re ecstatic that you’re looking at playoff standings rather than draft rankings in December, you might be an Oilers fan.

  151. AsiaOil says:

    Sure that was as ugly a win as they come – but as TMac said – you take it and run with the screwed up defense and sickbay full to bursting. We lose that game 9 out of 10 times even with good goaltending.

    Really hope Talbot puts up some numbers in the coming month – that would almost be the ideal situation. His play up until now has reduced his UFA value and another month is not going to change that much. A two year deal from the Oilers probably look appealing under these circumstances. Going into next year with Nilsson/Talbot 1A/1B reasonably priced and semi-proven would be acceptable.

    Gerta Rauss:
    That was 50 minutes of cringe worthy hockey but I don’t care. I’ve watched enough losing I’m going to enjoy the wins even though we know the carriage is going to turn into a pumpkin.

    Nice confidence boost for Talbot, that was much needed

  152. dangilitis says:

    By the way, the two things that we can deduce from the standings so far –

    – LA Kings are going to be the poor bastards that win the division and have to face off against either Chicago, St Louis, Minnesota, or Nashville in the first round.
    – The two teams that will face the easiest 1st round Western Conference opponents will be those that place #2 and #3 in the Pacific Division.

  153. stush18 says:

    dangilitis:
    By the way, the two things that we can deduce from the standings so far –

    – LA Kings are going to be the poor bastards that win the division and have to face off against either Chicago, St Louis, Minnesota, or Nashville in the first round.
    – The two teams that will face the easiest 1st round Western Conference opponents will be those that place #2 and #3 in the Pacific Division.

    LA vs St Louis. Ouch. Now there would be a heavy series. Can’t see either team coming out of that series without some serious tissue damage lol

  154. Gerta Rauss says:

    AsiaOil,

    I agree – I’d be thinking contract with Talbot as well (signing something early rather than later) If you can get a short term deal with good value you have to consider it.

  155. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    AsiaOil,

    I agree – I’d be thinking contract with Talbot as well (signing something early rather than later) If you can get a short term deal with good value you have to consider it.

    Going to be very interesting to see what those contracts may look like. Would be ideal to sign them both as a tandem for total 5m or so per year for 2 years or so.

    Let LB try to win a job from them during that time.

  156. jimmers2 says:

    Perhaps this has been posted already but apparently WPG is facing quite a price to sign Ladd, Trouba and Byfuglien. They are asking 152M combined over 6 to 8 year contracts.

    Ouch! This is only the request but ouch nevertheless.

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/Ladd-Byfuglien-Trouba-asking-Jets-for-152M-in-contracts–361904251.html

    The Jets will be leaner and will play a bit lighter one way or another.

  157. dangilitis says:

    stush18: LA vs St Louis. Ouch. Now there would be a heavy series. Can’t see either team coming out of that series without some serious tissue damage lol

    As of today, LAK and NSH are top 2 in Corsi close (within 1 goal) according to NHL.com, and would meet today in the 1st round if the playoffs started today. I don’t think using a score-adjusted Corsi within 1 goal of one another is legit, but I would still imagine these 2 teams are up there in a better shot-related metric as well.

  158. G Money says:

    dangilitis,

    Use score adjusted Corsi! Corsi Close must be assigned to the dustbin of history!

  159. AsiaOil says:

    I don’t think there is a “later” either – if he’s not signed at the deadline then he’s dealt to recover some of the assets used to acquire him. I think NYCOIL is in the range – about $2.5 million give or take for each of 2 years.

    Gerta Rauss:
    AsiaOil,

    I agree – I’d be thinking contract with Talbot as well (signing something early rather than later) If you can get a short term deal with good value you have to consider it.

  160. Yeti says:

    Bag of Pucks: Enforcer level bad? I guess the love from Friday’s Hattie is already gone.

    Even blind enforcers find a nut once in a while.

  161. Ronald Chevalier says:

    Talbot was busier than a one eyed cat watching 2 mouse holes! Stole us a win!
    On another note, pure gold on this thread tonight. My votes for winning the internet go to(in no particular order):
    Leadfarmer
    Soup Facist
    Halfwise

  162. BONE207 says:

    godot10:
    You guys realize what day tomorrow is.

    The Oilers will be in a playoff position on the anniversary of being dementor-free for one year!

    I’m getting drunk then before the game tomorrow. Let’s hope the NHL doesn’t change the rules on the 3 on 3 like they did in the 80’s with 4 on 4.

  163. striker says:

    Pouzar: Hi IATL

    Didn’t know that…makes complete sense.

  164. TeeVee says:

    Centre of attention:
    Nuge is on fire with face offs, don’t look now but in his last 9 games he has been 50% or better.

    He has averaged 56% over that span, to be exact. Somethings clicked?

    I wish there was a stat that could identify when a player is struggling because of health issues because since that flu bug went through the team, Nuge has looked slow, weak and gassed up until (coincidently) fack face Nicholson called him out. (Don’t ban me LT, Bob’s not on the board)

    Over the last several games he has progressively started to look like the Nuge we all know and love. His one true weakness that has kept him out of JToews country has been his FO’s and it’s looking like he’s figuring it out.

    My 7 yr old power skates at the Burnaby Winter Club once a week and I love seeing the Baby Nuge’s baby face photos every time I’m there.

  165. Mantis says:

    From @SNstats: “The last time the #Oilers won at Boston, the Billboard Number 1 song was “Macarena”

    Heeeeeeeeyyyyyy, Pakarinen!

    (Sorry LT, I’ll be going now…)

  166. BONE207 says:

    dangilitis:
    http://www.tsn.ca/stars-stay-no-1-in-nhl-power-rankings-1.409071

    #23 Oilers – Key Injuries: C Connor McDavid (clavicle), RW Nail Yakupov (ankle), LW Benoit Pouliot (lower body), D Oscar Klefbom (finger).

    #26 Flames – Key Injuries: LW Lance Bouma (fibula).

    So I guess the definition of “key” is a moving target…

    He probably made the “key” list because of his truculence.

  167. oilswell says:

    TeeVee: I wish there was a stat that could identify when a player is struggling because of health issues because since that flu bug went through the team, Nuge has looked slow, weak and gassed up until (coincidently) fack face Nicholson called him out. (Don’t ban me LT, Bob’s not on the board)

    He still looks slower than his normal by my eye, I think/hope things will improve.

    Is this the slowest Oilers team ever when skating back to the bench? Is anyone else seeing that?

  168. oilswell says:

    Mantis: Heeeeeeeeyyyyyy, Pakarinen!

    Darn you to heck /earworm

  169. oilswell says:

    Lucinius: He’s a dirt cheap 4th C option that doesn’t provide much offence, but doesn’t need to and might be able to play up the line up if needed. Everything about him screams quality depth player, especially considering the cap hit and age.

    If Lander is your 4th C and being paid like one, there has to be more pressing issues to worry about, right?

  170. Diesel says:

    Man, sixth straight. When is the last time the Oilers could be referred to as “the hottest team in the NHL”?

  171. SwedishPoster says:

    Well, what’s that Einstein quote? “Lesser artists borrow great artists steal”. Talbot certainly did tonight. It felt like we needed at least one stolen game by our goalies to split this road trip and we got it. I’m not holding much hope for a win against the Rangers on a b2b when Lundqvist is looking for revenge. But Chicago tends to suit us fairly well and Colorado should be a winnable game.

    If this is what the team looks like without Klefbom he better get back quickly and never get hurt again.
    A couple of key players really struggled tonight. Hall probably had his worst of the year, the PP shift that lead to his penalty must have been one of the worst he’s had in the NHL, reminded me of a Ference shift from last year. Nurse also had an awful game, he was all over the place. He’s hit a bit of a rough patch and could use a slight cut in ice time. Hard to do with Klefbom out.
    It’s easy to just point at the D when the team gets hemmed in like this but a lot is on the forwards not giving support on breakouts, giving up pucks in the neutral zone and not putting enough pressure without the puck in the neutral zone. Once in the offensive zone the team actually did ok imo. Unless on the PP ofc.

  172. Genjutsu says:

    oliveoilers: Hi Ashley.

    I appreciate the post, but I find you are kind of talking for all women, everywhere.

    I have been fortunate enough to travel the globe and have some amazing experiences.

    Whilst I’m sure your post is true for the majority of women, I can tell you from personal experience it isn’t true for all.

    The differences between men and women, on a psychological level, may not be as different as you’d think.I’ve met both men and women willing to do the craziest things, sometimes under the influence of substances, but mostly not.Just for the thrill.

    I absolutely know some women that meet other people (both sexes) and think “I want to have sex with that person.

    Best thing to do is keep an open mind.Like with their opinions about hockey, everyone is different and there are massive grey areas.

    So enough of this;I got the Oilers surprising the Bruins again with a 3-2 squeaker.You?

    Great post. The world needs more people like you.

  173. v4ance says:

    dangilitis:
    http://www.tsn.ca/stars-stay-no-1-in-nhl-power-rankings-1.409071

    #23 Oilers – Key Injuries: C Connor McDavid (clavicle), RW Nail Yakupov (ankle), LW Benoit Pouliot (lower body), D Oscar Klefbom (finger).

    #26 Flames – Key Injuries: LW Lance Bouma (fibula).

    So I guess the definition of “key” is a moving target…

    BONE207: He probably made the “key” list because of his truculence.

    Well the last time he showed off his truculence, he broke his hand on the boards in a fight and almost missed the World Juniors!

  174. Mr. D. says:

    AWAY FROM THE BOARDS RNH is fine. On the boards everybody pins and disables him. I’m sure the guy trains but he really needs to add strength to match his height. At this point I rather see someone effective on the boards.
    BATTLES win games (except last night)

    Lucinius:
    I’m actually still in the trade Eberle camp. Something has to give on the Oilers and he’s the best candidate. Yes, he’s good offensively (not good defensively, however) and it’d suck to lose him. However, he has a lot of value (name recognition, offensive ability, a decent cap hit considering past offensive production and age, etc.), whereas the other expendables don’t have anywhere near the same degree of trade value.

    That said, Eberle is a guy you trade in the off-season. You are very unlikely to get a proper return for him during the season as teams with good defenders aren’t going to trade them going into the playoffs.

    RNH, on the other hand, is, and always has been, on my untradeable list. I trade Hall before I trade RNH (granted, I only trade Hall if the return is massive and possibly only if he’s demanded a trade). Center depth is something you need. Worst case scenario one of he or Draisatl moves to wing.

  175. oliveoilers says:

    oliveoilers: So enough of this; I got the Oilers surprising the Bruins again with a 3-2 squeaker. You?

    Please allow me to posturbate.

  176. PhrankLee says:

    SwedishPoster,

    I always thought that was George Bernard Shaw.

    2 points off the hop. That is as many points as I thought we would have on this road trip in total!

    WTF, guys? Ashley has more credentials to speak to the issue. They are called ovaries. Plus we had Tom Robbins McNamedropper slithering all over the thread.

    Refuting her statement is like calling Korpse a true sniper because of that, you know, one time ..nudge, nudge….wink, wink… say no more, say no more!! 😉

    Can tell the millennials from the Xers and the boomers just ignore the whole issue. Well except Tom Robbins McNamedropper.

    Clap clap. A win in B? Unfathomable.

    I’ll take it.

  177. Seismic Source says:

    PhrankLee,

    You lost me.

  178. blainer says:

    Mr. D.:
    AWAY FROM THE BOARDS RNH is fine. On the boards everybody pins and disables him. I’m sure the guy trains but he really needs to add strength to match his height. At this point I rather see someone effective on the boards.
    BATTLES win games (except last night)

    Wow do not see that at all… Nuge is a Digger..actually would be a great nick name for him. 1on 1 battles he almost always comes away with the puck.

    Fantastic talent.. especially when healthy !

  179. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Mr. D.:
    AWAY FROM THE BOARDS RNH is fine. On the boards everybody pins and disables him. I’m sure the guy trains but he really needs to add strength to match his height. At this point I rather see someone effective on the boards.
    BATTLES win games (except last night)

    The MOAR bigger crowd needs to get its eyes checked. If the rest of the NHL can see it, why can’t people in Edmonton?

  180. frjohnk says:

    blainer: Nuge is a Digger

    How about Dirk Diggler?

    Can “rise” to the occasion when healthy.

  181. jimmers2 says:

    blainer: Wow do not see that at all… Nuge is a Digger..actually would be a great nick name for him. 1on 1 battles he almost always comes away with the puck.

    Fantastic talent.. especially when healthy !

    I’m inclined to agree with you Blainer. Nevertheless, and I’m no expert, but isn’t the centre’s normal job to support the winger (and it is the winger who does the principal work on the boards)? The centre was plenty of things to do, other than “battle”.

  182. frjohnk says:

    jimmers2:
    Perhaps this has been posted already but apparently WPG is facing quite a price to sign Ladd, Trouba and Byfuglien.They are asking 152M combined over 6 to 8 year contracts.

    Ouch!This is only the request but ouch nevertheless.

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/Ladd-Byfuglien-Trouba-asking-Jets-for-152M-in-contracts–361904251.html

    The Jets will be leaner and will play a bit lighter one way or another.

    Andrew Ladd has asked for a six-year deal worth at least $41 million
    Dustin Byfuglien has requested $55 million over eight years
    Jacob Trouba wants more than $56 million over the maximum eight years

    Jets are my 3rd favorite team, Oilers being my favorite, and any team that plays against the Lames my second.

    The Jets do have the room to sign them all for close to what they want but I don’t think Chevy will do that.

    I have some buddies who are season ticket holders. One guy believes that Trouba wants out. If that was the case Id trade Trouba for Hamonic in some kind of package. No way is he worth 7M a year.

    I like Buff but paying him an AAV of almost $7M until he is 38 will just end up badly.

    If Ladd can be signed for a 5 year $33M or so deal, Id be happy.

    Will be interesting to see what happens there.

  183. theres oil in virginia says:

    oliveoilers: Please allow me to posturbate.

    Your original post was noted. I just forgot to note that it was noted.

  184. jimmers2 says:

    frjohnk,

    Surely the priority is a) sign Ladd, b) sign Trouba to a realistic contract or trade for Hamonic (or the like, but Hamonic wanting to return to Man. is a big deal for a team like the Jets) and c) sail on Buf.

    At the price and term suggested in that article, it is hard to see Buf as a FA option in Edm either.

  185. SwedishPoster says:

    PhrankLee,

    In one of my old physics books it was attributed to Einstein. But I did some digging and it seems like it originated from Igor Stravinskij who may or may not have gotten it from WH Davenport. After Igor a lot of other people ironically enough seems to have stolen the quote. Surely considering themselves great artists.

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