CAN’T SEE THIS WINTER ROAD (THROUGH THE FOG AND SNOW)

The Oilers sent Brad Hunt, Zack Kassian and Griffin Reinhart to Bakersfield this week, so they could see some playing time during the off week for the All-Star game. It is a major item—Edmonton’s hockey team is on a damned long layoff and that will have its own consequences. I think the organization still believes (the Oilers playoff hopes may well end up being an X-File later in the season) they can push for the second season, but a ghastly start after the break will put it all to rest.

I have been thinking about tonight’s lineup (nothing posted yet, McDavid isn’t going to play) and about their decade—the one that begins tonight. Do you remember the old Edmonton Roadrunners? That team is eleven years old now (2004-05) and the years have given us poetry and prose for every line. How did it turn out? Great! And awful.

2004-05 ROADRUNNERS NHL GAMES PLAYED

  1. Jarret Stoll (841) The home run career in the group, on Stanley, on money, on wealth and on fame. A crooked road or two, but hell boys would we have done anything differently?
  2. Kyle Brodziak (667) Miles and miles and miles farther than we thought, Lorne Davis apparently knew but he didn’t have enough friends in management to stay so they sent him away. Brodziak never missed a beat and continues to skate in the world’s best hockey league.
  3. Raffi Torres (635) At 34, still chasing dreams and demons. Exactly one helluva player.
  4. Toby Petersen (398) Although he is often a punch line for Oilers fans, at the end of the day (thanks, Chris Pronger!) the man believed in himself and, more importantly, found important others who did the same. Oilers walked him about a decade ago, he went down to the AHL and ran out every groundball for an entire season—and he caught the train back to the show for another 220+ NHL games. You have to respect that—or you should—and if you are a former Oilers prospect and reading this, you hold on tight to the Toby Petersen Story. Not every hockey man knows his ass from a hole in the ground.
  5. Brad Winchester (390). The wind blew him a long way, he made it, and stayed for a time.
  6. Jeff Woywitka (278) I think Doug Lynch would have had a stronger career, but you can’t blame Woywitka for that, and you can’t blame him for the Comrie deal. Heh. There was a time when I was a mod at HF that I could have sent everyone in that deal into the sun for the trouble they caused. Of course, none of them did a damn thing but pursue their dream. I am glad he got 278.
  7. J-F Jacques (166) He didn’t play much for the Edmonton Roadrunners, but did get into a lot of games as an Oiler. My two enduring memories of him were Quinn’s folly (opening night 2009-10 with Horcoff and Hemsky) and the year he went forever without a single point. How he did it, God only knows. Good Christ this has been an insane decade.
  8. Tony Salmelainen (70) He caught a flight to Switzerland, finished up 2013-14.
  9. Mathieu Roy (66) I think about him sometimes, when I fall down or the dog does something silly. I have never seen a hockey player before or since who could find an awkward moment out of the blue like this fellow. He is still playing, God bless him. DEL. Hamburg Freezers. I imagine one will fall on him soon.
  10. Jeff Deslauriers (62) He played a lot for the Oilers not so long ago (2009-10), but we really don’t talk about him much now. Remains an active player, in the DEL with Augsburg where he is the starting goalie.
  11. Martin St. Pierre (39) I saw him good as a Roadrunner, but he was small, smaller, smallest. One of the big upsets on this list is that he made it into 39 games, suspect that ridiculous skill bought him every game. I am glad he got some at-bats.
  12. Mike Morrison (29) Three memories. Fantastic accent, just a beauty. If I were rich, I would pay him to read Kenndy’s speeches. Second thing: The shootouts! MacT would bring him in off the bench. Holy hell. Third? Well, since he was a goalie in 2005-06, I can’t think of him without also thinking about Dwayne Roloson, which means I am reminded of MA Bergeron and Andrew Ladd and then Ty Conklin. And then it is dark for a long time.
  13. Rocky Thompson (25) He played all the NHL games before he got here, I met Rocky Thompson a few times. He is absolute proof you cannot judge a book by the cover. When I met him, he could have been an extra on the Rocky Horror Picture Show, but the guy is wicked smart and will be an NHL coach some day. Book it.
  14. Mike Bishai (14) He made it into the Hockey Encyclopedia. I would give my left nut for the same.
  15. Doug Lynch (2) He was an AHL All-Star right out of the box, and then a hand injury derailed him. Stupid damn shame really, but he took off to Austria and built himself a career there. I have always followed him, thought he deserved at least that after luck bit so hard. As a Dad, this kind of thing is what I think about sometimes. Hockey is full of tough buggers, that’s the truth.
  16. JJ Hunter (0) I met a man a few years ago who had some knowledge of Hunter and a lot of pro athletes. He told me Hunter worked harder than anyone he’d seen. I wish he had gotten a game in the show.
  17. Jesse Niinimaki (0) First-round pick and he never pissed a drop. He hung around the SM-Liiga for a long time though, played three games this year.

My memories of that team are still pretty strong, wonder if you have any. The game goes at 8pm tonight, I will update the lines and pairings and following the game in the comments section. The decade begins for these Condors. Who is the Stoll? Brodziak? One hopes there is no Lynch in this group.

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84 Responses to "CAN’T SEE THIS WINTER ROAD (THROUGH THE FOG AND SNOW)"

  1. Магия 10 says:

    Good luck to the Bakersfield Connors tonight. Hopefully they’re not out of gas from trying to keep up with 97 at practice.

  2. Protagonist says:

    Bohologo:
    Who’d I miss?

    Marc Pouliot.

  3. Concur says:

    Chase could be the next Stoll
    Kaira could be the next Torres
    Hopefully Yakimov can be the next Brodziak
    Slepy could be the next Winchester

  4. RexLibris says:

    Bohologo: Who’d I miss?

    Bookje.

  5. GCW_69 says:

    After ten years of losing its not surprising that some fans are getting a bit cranky.

    I have gone the other way. I tried to watch the game on Saturday and realized I just don’t care anymore. The passion for the team is gone.

    Now, its an academic problem for me. How do you build something out of the shit this franchise has become? I enjoy reading different points of view and learning more about the game of Hockey.

    I have been a hockey fan for 36 years and this is the first time I find watching the Oilers leaves me empty.

    Thanks Katz, Lowe and company. You actually managed to ruin the game of Hockey for me.

    So, if the Oilers make you angry, I get it. Let’s hope they get better before you end up where I am. In the mean time, try to direct your anger where it belongs- at the clowns who own and run the franchise.

  6. Bar_Qu says:

    I run into JJ every now and again (know his parents and him as a kid). Great guy living another dream life with his brothers of being a singing group. They did concerts for our school and absolutely blew the roof off (every 14 yr old girl wanted their picture with his brother too). He talks fondly off his days in the Oilers and has nothing bad to say about them.

    Had to stop him calling me Mr Barreth though. Man that made me feel old.

  7. Protagonist says:

    GCW_69:
    After ten years of losing its not surprising that some fans are getting a bit cranky.

    I have gone the other way. I tried to watch the game on Saturday and realized I just don’t care anymore.The passion for the team is gone.

    Now, its an academic problem for me.How do you build something out of the shit this franchise has become?I enjoy reading different points of view and learning more about the game of Hockey.

    I have been a hockey fan for 36 years and this is the first time I find watching the Oilers leaves me empty.

    Thanks Katz, Lowe and company.You actually managed to ruin the game of Hockey for me.

    So, if the Oilers make you angry, I get it.Let’s hope they get better before you end up where I am.In the mean time, try to direct your anger where it belongs- at the clowns who own and run the franchise.

    It could be worse. The farthest back I can actually remember is Shane Corson. Doug Weight and crew was actually a step up, being a perpetual also-ran and maaaaaybe making it through one round of the playoffs. My entire career as an Oilers fans is mediocrity bookended by a bit of 8th place playoff action and one magical spring.

    Gretzky and Messier and Kurri are stories that people tell. Sort of like the World Wars or Communism. I can’t ignore the fact that they must exist, but they still seem like fairy tales.

  8. Water Fire says:

    Protagonist: It could be worse. The farthest back I can actually remember is Shane Corson. Doug Weight and crew was actually a step up, being a perpetual also-ran and maaaaaybe making it through one round of the playoffs. My entire career as an Oilers fans is mediocrity bookended by a bit of 8th place playoff action and one magical spring.

    Gretzky and Messier and Kurri are stories that people tell. Sort of like the World Wars or Communism. I can’t ignore the fact that they must exist, but they still seem like fairy tales.

    I hope that you experience Edmonton sports teams as dominant.

    I also hope this for your benefit 🙂

  9. Water Fire says:

    Bohologo:
    Are we in here now?

    Anyone else notice if we go more than a couple of days without a game we start to turn on each other?

    I enjoy a good exchange as much as the next person, but let’s not forget our common foe: the Flames.

    And the Habs.

    And the Leafs.

    And the Canucks.

    And all the other NHL teams.

    And the zebras.

    And the Toronto media.

    Who’d I miss? (I assume Smid is covered when we mentioned the Flames.)

    I’ve always viewed you as the foe, hater of hating.

    Also because you have a strange take on one of my favourite obscure words – tohu bohu.

  10. Frank the dog says:

    The problem isn’t the coaching, or even the players to such a degree. We’re not dealing with a full roster shitshow. We’re dealing with an injury shitshow.
    No team can be effective with 5 or more of their top forwards injured, and 2 or more of their top D out at the same time. That’s why the last game wasn’t worth watching, and that’s the problem Chia and Katz actually ave to solve – at the NHL level. Add scrotum shots to the head shot ban. After all the latter drives the former much of the time.

  11. reckless restraint says:

    My dad was working in the North West Territories, and we lived outside of Winnipeg. Flights out of Yellowknife went first to Edmonton, and then to Winnipeg. I picked him up at the airport one cold night, and the first thing he said to me when walked into the departures lobby was “You better hope you have a sharpie in the car”. I couldn’t be more confused. Turns out the Roadrunners flew commercial, he sat right in front of them during the flight.

    I was 18, and Doug Lynch couldn’t have had a more hilarious look on his face when I walked up to him and asked “Excuse me Mr. Lynch, could I have your autograph?” The highlight was when Bucky (had a decent year as coach) signed my hat though. Shaking his hand was like a shaking hands with a baseball glove. The Roadrunners won 3-0 the next night, I was one of the very few standing and cheering when they scored.

  12. Centre of attention says:

    Ekblad just handled Peter Holland in a scrap like it was something he’s used to.

    Ekblad is already a great hockey player, imagine what he will be like age 28?

    I’m happy with Draisaitl as a constellation prize though.

  13. Zelepukin says:

    Concur: Chase could be the next Stoll

    Very doubtful. I remember Stoll in the Mem Cup they won. One of those 21 yr old Dub captains that everyone passed on. Not the biggest, stalkiest guy but all captain. Unbelievable one-timer and amazing in the dots until his wrists started to go.

    Chase and Stoll are worlds apart in my opinion.

  14. Water Fire says:

    Centre of attention:
    Ekblad just handled Peter Holland in a scrap like it was something he’s used to.

    Ekblad is already a great hockey player, imagine what he will be like age 28?

    I’m happy with Draisaitl as a constellation price though.

    The Oilers can draft a slightly smaller but equally as cocky and possibly better version this year. Can’t predict what order of acquisition is the best, ahead of the fact.

  15. G Money says:

    Looks like the Canes are finally starting to live up to their stellar possession numbers.

    Did they get rid of Ward or something?

  16. oliveoilers says:

    Centre of attention:
    Ekblad just handled Peter Holland in a scrap like it was something he’s used to.

    Ekblad is already a great hockey player, imagine what he will be like age 28?

    I’m happy with Draisaitl as a constellation price though.

    That’s because Draisaitl is a……..star.

  17. ruotsalainen says:

    “DEL. Hamburg Freezers. I imagine one will fall on him soon.”

    This may be one of my favourite lines here ever, and that is saying a lot as there has been many. Well written LT. He couldn’t avoid being injured and we all kind of knew something was going to be the end of him. It might as well be a freezer in Germany.

    Also, my favourite Bishai memory is him fighting while in the Atlanta Thrashers bench(Hartley is and will always be a dirty bench boss. Leopards don’t change their spots no matter a Jack Adams Trophy).

  18. Hockeyman 99 says:

    Sad to see Horc caught using PEDs, just trying to hang on I guess. 20 game ban.

  19. Lowetide says:

    Bakersfield Condors ‏@Condors 34s35 seconds ago

    Scratches: Khaira, Nikitin, Moroz, Christoffer, Gernat, Slepyshev, Betker, McDavid

  20. Lowetide says:

    Bakersfield Condors ‏@Condors 54s54 seconds ago

    FORWARDS:
    Hamilton – Miller – Ford
    Kassian – Winquist – Pitlick
    Jones – Currie – McRae
    Kessy – Platzer – Roy
    Bakersfield Condors ‏@Condors 1m1 minute ago

    DEFENSE:
    Reinhart – Oesterle
    Simpson – Musil
    LaLeggia – Hunt

    IN NET: The man they call LB

  21. leadfarmer says:

    They should send Lander down this week on a “conditioning stint” so at least he scores a goal this year

  22. Магия 10 says:

    Lowetide:
    Bakersfield Condors ‏@Condors 34s35 seconds ago

    Scratches: Khaira, Nikitin, Moroz, Christoffer, Gernat, Slepyshev, Betker, McDavid

    Bout time there were consequences for his lollygagging.

  23. square_wheels says:

    Centre of attention,

    Is drai the Orion constellation ??

    Sorry, couldn’t resist !

  24. square_wheels says:

    Lowetide,

    I like that second line, not a trio I’d look over and think – this will be fun.

  25. Younger Oil says:

    Lowetide:
    Bakersfield Condors ‏@Condors 34s35 seconds ago

    Scratches: Khaira, Nikitin, Moroz, Christoffer, Gernat, Slepyshev, Betker, McDavid

    This list is precisely the reason that the Oilers’ prospect development over the years has been so shit.

    Gotta give the players you want playing in the big club eventually ice time.

    Half of the forwards playing tonight aren’t in the future plans, I don’t get the point of playing them over players that could make an impact in the NHL.

    I mean, if it was in the middle of a packed schedule I’d understand, but they’ve just had two days off, and have another two days off after today’s game.

    It’s absolutely baffling how they’re not learning after so many years of brutal prospect development.

  26. lynn says:

    Lowetide:
    Bakersfield Condors ‏@Condors 34s35 seconds ago

    Scratches: Khaira, Nikitin, Moroz, Christoffer, Gernat, Slepyshev, Betker, McDavid

    Surprised Khaira is sitting. Injury or illness?

  27. Professor Q says:

    Just saw the news about Horcoff.

    Damn, that’s unfortunate. Good Ser. 🙁

  28. fifthcartel says:

    Younger Oil,

    I agree. The only real prospect in the top 9 is Winquist and he’s not even signed.

    The top line is all AHL-veterans, second line features Pitlick who has basically no future in the organization and Winquist + Kassian. Third line is just as irrelevant to the Oiler’s future, Currie and McRae help the Oilers how? And then the only line comprised of all Oilers prospects and of course, it’s the 4th line.

    The defense is a bit better but I doubt he’s not going to play Hunt 25+ minutes down there.

    I thought this would get better with Chiarelli but they need to play whatever prospects they have, not run out Hamilton, Ford, Miller, Hunt, and Niktiin so Gerry Fleming can get a nice looking record in the AHL.

  29. geowal says:

    RexLibris: Bookje.

    Yeah, that guy is busy writing for CBC again…contributing nothing around here!! 🙂

  30. geowal says:

    Younger Oil,

    I think some of those are injured.

  31. square_wheels says:

    Professor Q,

    He made a good bet. Consider that at his age , he is losing 25% (over 300k) but still keeps 900k. I’d rather see pro sports let players use some “drugs” to recover. There is a myriad of substances that would benefit the older players but would actually have a negative impact on the shift to younger players dominating the league.

    If you follow the UFC, this debate is raging currently. I suspect Horc used TRT, but that’s a WAG.

  32. G Money says:

    Booing Paykah in Montreal?!?

    Get on the phone Chia. Schultz for Subban. Do it. Montreal owes us one.

  33. square_wheels says:

    G Money,

    Does the HNiC crew now talk about how key injuries heavily influence a teams success in this new “parity” league…..or do we get to watch PJ stand awkwardly with a stick in his hands while Kypreos performs some puck handling magic to demonstrate their deep knowledge of the modern game ?

  34. JDï™ says:

    The one and only (and maybe that was a good thing), Andy Kaufman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZS6Nrjurew

    In 1977 he convinced network execs to tape this bizarre show, but it didn’t air until 1979. If you can stand the tracking noise from the old VHS tape, this is quite amazing. And the commercials…

  35. Centre of attention says:

    LaLeggia scores 1-0 Condors

  36. Lowetide says:

    Laleggia scores, he is good. LB good too.

  37. Lowetide says:

    Winquist with the assist.

  38. dadoug12 says:

    GCW_69:
    After ten years of losing its not surprising that some fans are getting a bit cranky.

    I have gone the other way. I tried to watch the game on Saturday and realized I just don’t care anymore.The passion for the team is gone.

    Now, its an academic problem for me.How do you build something out of the shit this franchise has become?I enjoy reading different points of view and learning more about the game of Hockey.

    I have been a hockey fan for 36 years and this is the first time I find watching the Oilers leaves me empty.

    Thanks Katz, Lowe and company.You actually managed to ruin the game of Hockey for me.

    So, if the Oilers make you angry, I get it.Let’s hope they get better before you end up where I am.In the mean time, try to direct your anger where it belongs- at the clowns who own and run the franchise.

    I think what makes it worse is to see other teams in the last 5 years who have finished in the bottom 3 progress to even at least 1 year in the playoffs. You would think that eventually the oilers would fluke off one season and get into the playoffs or at least not be near the bottom. Would anyone at the start of the season thought Arizona be in a playoff spot at the all star break, and without there starting goalie. Theres no more excuses anymore for always being in the bottom.

  39. square_wheels says:

    Lowetide,

    He’s paired with Hunt.

    Hmmmm maybe we try the ol’4 fwds and one kinda-Dman setup ?

    Can Joey play D at the NHL level, is he growing into that coveted PP QB role, someday a mini-Buff ?

  40. Centre of attention says:

    Hunt from Hamilton. *eye roll*

  41. Lowetide says:

    Hamilton from Hunt, 2-0.

  42. dadoug12 says:

    Frank the dog:
    The problem isn’t the coaching, or even the players to such a degree. We’re not dealing with a full roster shitshow. We’re dealing with an injury shitshow.
    No team can be effective with 5 or more of their top forwards injured, and 2 or more of their top D out at the same time. That’s why the last game wasn’t worth watching, and that’s the problem Chia and Katz actually ave to solve – at the NHL level. Add scrotum shots to the head shot ban. After all the latter drives the former much of the time.

    Theres no point on complaining about the injuries, when they happen other players have to step it up, look at arizona they lose there starting goalie, and they didnt fall apart. Other players have to try to seize the opportuntiy, , its too easy to say injuries killed this season. Losing yakupov who has done very little the last 12 months. Losing an 18 year old rookie and your team falls apart???? Im sorry but Oscar Klefbom is not Niklas Lidstrom, the fact is the team is flawed, and its so obvious, the team needs to be overhauled.

  43. Centre of attention says:

    Lowetide,

    Do you think Winquist is applying for Benoit Pouliot’s job eventually?

    If the Oilers move on from Ryan Hamilton they should 100% sign Winquist. Because Winquist might actually be useful.

  44. fifthcartel says:

    Winquist has 30 points in 61 games in the AHL. Maybe there’s a player there?

  45. StevieG_8 says:

    dadoug12: Theres no point on complaining about the injuries, when they happen other players have to step it up, look at arizona they lose there starting goalie, and they didnt fall apart. Other players have to try to seize the opportuntiy, , its too easy to say injuries killed this season. Losing yakupov who has done very little the last 12 months.Losing an 18 year old rookie and your team falls apart????Im sorry but Oscar Klefbom is not Niklas Lidstrom, the fact is the team is flawed, and its so obvious, the team needs to be overhauled.

    Leon stepped up when connor went down but klefbom was tough to replace though.

  46. Lowetide says:

    Hamilton from Oesterle and Reinhart 3-1 Bakersfield.

  47. Lowetide says:

    Centre of attention:
    Lowetide,

    Do you think Winquist is applying for Benoit Pouliot’s job eventually?

    If the Oilers move on from Ryan Hamilton they should 100% sign Winquist.

    I don’t really know what Winquist is beyond he has enough offense to be successful in the AHL. Very skilled, he isn’t fast but he can certainly travel. Is he fast enough to play in the NHL someday? I don’t think we know.

    Poultiot is/was a different animal, a more obviously qualified NHL player at the same age.

  48. Zelepukin says:

    Lowetide: I don’t really know what Winquist is beyond he has enough offense to be successful in the AHL. Very skilled, he isn’t fast but he can certainly travel. Is he fast enough to play in the NHL someday? I don’t think we know.

    Poultiot is/was a different animal, a more obviously qualified NHL player at the same age.

    Ya, AHL numbers only mean so much. To question that, is to forget that Jultz lead the entire league until the NHL resumed.

  49. Gordies Elbow says:

    Rocky Thompson, True Story.

    Wife booked the young boy into a hockey school over summer. Fit into the schedule, in Ft. Sask at the Dow which is close to Sherwood Park, and a full day program with lunch. Our boy was a Novice centre with skill, and one of the smallest players at his age group.

    Wife hadn’t heard of it before, but hey, seems like a good fit, right?

    I get home and she tells me.

    I’m flabbergasted. Rocky Thompson? The boy is going to get killed.

    I take time away to watch the first session, ready to pull him if there are any concerns.

    Rocky spent the first day on skating technique, head position, and drawing the leg up to the centre line. He spoke of sitting “in the kitchen chair,” and keeping the head in the same position. Lunch came, and his wife spoke of macronutrients and micronutrients, and why soda is one of the worst things you can put into your body. It was, in a word, awesome.

    My boys have been to more of Rocky’s programmes (e.g. 3 on 3) but I will never forget my trepidation when I first heard about Rocky’s hockey school.

    Rocky was an exceptional teacher, and I’d bet, an exceptional coach. Truly amazing.

  50. Lowetide says:

    Zelepukin: Ya, AHL numbers only mean so much. To question that, is to forget that Jultz lead the entire league until the NHL resumed.

    AHL numbers are very useful, but their context must be understood before making claims.

  51. dadoug12 says:

    StevieG_8: Leon stepped up when connor went downbut klefbom was tough to replace though.

    thats true, and if Mcdavid hadnt got hurt , would Leon been called up. Since Chiarelli has only been on the job 1 season, and with alll these injuries, hes got a small mulligan, to work with, another season of no playoffs, and the knives will be out again.

  52. Centre of attention says:

    Pitlick whips out that old school wrist shot and the Condors have a 3 goal lead

  53. Lowetide says:

    Pitlick from Kassian, 5-2 Bakersfield.

  54. geowal says:

    Lowetide:
    Pitlick from Kassian, 5-2 Bakersfield.

    Did he “look like a hockey player” while doing it? ?

  55. Centre of attention says:

    These kids are actually trying to unfold a frozen t-shirt as part of a contest.

    the kid in the kopitar sweater looks pretty entertained, haha.

  56. Lowetide says:

    geowal: Did he “look like a hockey player” while doing it??

    Yes! He did! 🙂

  57. BONVIE says:

    Is Miller the centre for That line?

  58. Centre of attention says:

    Platzer uses his brain on the penalty kill.

    Very effective.

  59. Centre of attention says:

    Winquist again. I swear there is a player there. 6-2 Condors

  60. Pouzar says:

    Winquist deflects home the Hunt point shot.

    6-2.

  61. Pouzar says:

    6-3…booooooooooo

  62. geowal says:

    Huh, they still do “cotteneye joe” in Bakersfield

  63. Pouzar says:

    Kassian disturbing the shit lol

  64. Centre of attention says:

    Kassian completely lost his sweater in that scrum

  65. Centre of attention says:

    Pouzar:
    Kassian disturbing the shit lol

    He got the Condors a power play out of that mess.

    He’s a f*cking animal I love it.

  66. Pouzar says:

    Centre of attention: He got the Condors a power play out of that mess.

    He’s a f*cking animal I love it.

    Man if he can stay on the straight and narrow this could be a steal.

  67. oliveoilers says:

    geowal:
    Huh, they still do “cotteneye joe” in Bakersfield

    I always wondered where did he come from and where did he go.

  68. Centre of attention says:

    Pouzar: Man if he can stay on the straight and narrow this could be a steal.

    Can Kassian become a top 6 forward in the NHL? [in time?]

  69. JDï™ says:

    dadoug12: if Mcdavid hadnt got hurt , would Leon been called up.

    Well Drivesaitl and McDavid both scored points in this game:

    http://oilers.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/recap?id=2015020144

  70. Ice Sage says:

    oilers tied for last in league. will play CBJ in the toilet bowl in a week.
    really an unbelievable decade of ineptitude – are there any comps for this in professional sports this century?

  71. Samson Loveblast says:

    Ice Sage:
    oilers tied for last in league.will play CBJ in the toilet bowl in a week.
    really an unbelievable decade of ineptitude – are there any comps for this in professional sports this century?

    I’m a pretty big American Football fan, the Cleveland Browns, arguably that team has been worse than the Oilers. The Detroit Lions also, they have since turned it around but there was a ten year horror stretch, the nadir in that case was failing to win a single game in ’08.

  72. jake70 says:

    another win for Milos…..into the semis down under…

  73. anonymous says:

    Samson Loveblast: I’m a pretty big American Football fan, the Cleveland Browns, arguably that team has been worse than the Oilers. The DetroitLions also, they have since turned it around but there was a ten year horror stretch, the nadir in that case was failing to win a single game in ’08.

    Those teams are/were bad but really no comparison. The oilers have rewritten the book on bad as far as major North American sports teams go.

  74. Pouzar says:

    Centre of attention: CanKassian become a top 6 forward in the NHL? [in time?]

    I think he is an ideal 3rd liner who can play in the Top 6 when injuries or circumstance call for it. He adds a ton of value to this team. I hope he works out his personal life.

  75. kinger_OIL says:

    – Whose right? I asked this group a few weeks ago whether Conner and playing 40 games matters for UFA, and the response was no because he was “on the roster”, vs games played. I advocated getting him a less than 40 game schedule.

    – Article says OIL should do what I queried. Is he wrong re:games played vs. on roster for UFA?

    http://www.coppernblue.com/2016/1/26/10825140/mcdavid-and-the-ahl

  76. Lowetide says:

    kinger_OIL:
    – Whose right?I asked this group a few weeks ago whether Conner and playing 40 games matters for UFA, and the response was no because he was “on the roster”, vs games played.I advocated getting him a less than 40 game schedule.

    – This article says the OIL should what I queried.Is he wrong re:games played vs. on roster for UFA?

    http://www.coppernblue.com/2016/1/26/10825140/mcdavid-and-the-ahl

    I have him on tomorrow, my guess is McDavid gets his year no matter what but we will chat about it.

  77. G Money says:

    geowal:
    Huh, they still do “cotteneye joe” in Bakersfield

    The real Cotton is a childhood friend of mine. (People who were at Oilers and Eskimos games in the 90s may know what I’m talking about)

  78. kinger_OIL says:

    Lowetide,

    – That will be good. For sure the consensus in here was it didn’t matter, he’s on the roster. I thought as did the writer: it’g games played for UFA, but I deferred (cough Woodguy cough)

    – If management and McDavid’s were smart, you would agree to do something like the writer suggests, and get an understanding that you want to lock him up for 8 years plus, and use the “savings” to build the team: Brady style mentality.

  79. russ99 says:

    This may stir up a hornets nest, but with a long break, maybe we should look at the tenets of “Oilers Hockey” that have consistently failed us in the last 10 years, even with different groups of players and multiple coaches:

    1) Three scoring lines – It’s not the 80s anymore, and we’re putting an undue stress on our already weak defensemen corps and goaltenders due to weak 2-way play from the majority of our forwards.

    Also in our current “dump/cycle/shoot from everywhere” system, the effect of “unicorns” on scoring is dramatically reduced. Cyclers, shooters and net front presence are more important to the current system than precision passers and skaters. McLellan isn’t going to go away so the roster has to be adapted to work within this.

    2) Kid/Goon 4th line – Goes with #1, if we’re trying to shoehorn three scoring lines in, we need much better 2-way players on the 4th line. I still vastly prefer the optimal MacT coached Oilers line deployment, and it fits better in our current system: 2 scoring lines, the Moreau/Reasoner/Pisani checking line and the energy line of Glencross/Brodziak/Stortini on the 4th. We’re very much lacking in those types of players today.

    3) All puck movers on defense – somebody has to be able to clear the crease, make a tough play one on one and do the hard work behind the net. By moving away from truly defensive defensemen, we’re weakening an area of the ice where goals are most often scored against us, and all the puck movers are having issues with breakout passes anyway.

    4) Readiness of young prospects / AHL players (especially coke machines) – Rushing Nurse, Reinhart (earlier), Khaira, etc. is doing us no favors. Draisaitl is the exception, not the rule and it’s proven that defensemen take more time to develop. Starting with this draft, we need to give our prospects more time, and have better options to call up to fill in for injuries. Granted the record man-games lost the last two years have really hurt us in this area.

  80. hunter1909 says:

    Ice Sage: oilers tied for last in league. will play CBJ in the toilet bowl in a week.

    Meaningful hockey. Finally.

  81. frjohnk says:

    hunter1909: Meaningful hockey. Finally.

    With McDavid, we finally have Exciting Last Place Hockey.

  82. Магия 10 says:

    Lowetide: I have him on tomorrow, my guess is McDavid gets his year no matter what but we will chat about it.

    The whole thing was silly. If they legitimately wanted reconditioning games in the ‘A’ they would have dressed him in Bakersfield last night. Rip the guy out of a UFA year on something as dodgy as that and you deserve to lose him when he gets to UFA.

    And it turns out the writer had missed that the players shut down that avenue:

    Update

    Damn you, CBA. From Article 1:

    “Accrued Season” means any League Year during which a Player was on a Club’s Active Roster for 40 (30 if the Player is a goalie) or more Regular Season Games, provided that, for the purposes of calculating an Accrued Season under this Agreement, games missed due to a hockey-related injury incurred while on a Club’s Active Roster shall count as games played for purposes of calculating an Accrued Season but only during the League Year in which the injury was incurred and a maximum of one additional season.

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