LOTS OF INTEL, WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Math is one of the seven wonders of the world (along with women, demon liquor and chocolate) and today I am going to attempt to cipher what the Oilers are facing this evening. From my perspective, they have a bit of a roster issue.

You may recall the club sent Zack Kassian, Brad Hunt and Griffin Reinhart to the minors at the beginning of the break, and more recently claimed Adam Clendening on waivers. Let’s run the roster as it should appear on Peter Chiarelli’s white board this evening:

  • Goal (2): Cam Talbot, Anders Nilsson
  • Defense (6): Andrej Sekera, Mark Fayne, Darnell Nurse, Justin Schultz, Eric Gryba, Adam Clendening
  • Center (3): Leon Draisaitl, Mark Letestu, Anton Lander
  • Left Wing (5): Taylor Hall, Benoit Pouliot, Lauri Korpikoski, Luke Gazdic, Rob Klinkhammer
  • Right Wing (5): Jordan Eberle, Teddy Purcell, Nail Yakupov, Matt Hendricks, Iiro Pakarinen

That is 21, leaving room for two players to be added via recall. After the break, the Oilers are very likely to recall Kassian while also activating Connor McDavid and Brandon Davidson. Oscar Klefbom hopefully arrives ready soonafter. My math says the club needs to make a move, with Rob Klinkhammer being the obvious choice (he has already cleared waivers recently). If Edmonton wants to recall Reinhart, candidates would include Darnell Nurse and waiving Luke Gazdic—neither likely. This brings us to the Justin Schultz conversation from a couple of days ago.

I think Reinhart’s recall may hinge on finding a landing spot for Schultz, and Mr. Friedman is a very connected fellow. Something imminent? I think that is probably being a little more aggressive than the current intel suggests, but we could see something soon.

This is a follow up to the Friedman conversation with Bob Stauffer earlier today, putting Jordan Eberle in Brooklyn and Travis Hamonic on the Canadian prairies. If that happens, I would be interested in knowing if it is connected to signing Teddy Purcell—the Oilers have to make a decision on him before the deadline. That would mean proceeding with Purcell and Nail Yakupov on the RW for next season—have to say I didn’t expect to see both of them in the fall and would not have been surprised to see both gone by July. Peter Chiarelli is apparently taking interesting phone calls.

OILERS CURRENT 50-MAN LIST (49)

  1. G Cam Talbot, NHL starter
  2. G Anders Nilsson, NHL backup.
  3. G Laurent Brossoit, AHL starter.
  4. G Eetu Laurikainen, AHL backup.
  5. D Andrej Sekera, veteran has been very valuable.
  6. D Oscar Klefbom, enjoying a solid year when healthy.
  7. D Mark Fayne, performing better in recent games. 
  8. D Brandon Davidson, a brilliant season so far.
  9. D Darnell Nurse, started in AHL, now in NHL.
  10. D Justin Schultz, may be playing his final games as an Oiler.
  11. D Eric Gryba, third pairing defender.
  12. D Adam Clendening, waiver pickup. Oilers used to make these count, maybe again?
  13. D Griffin Reinhart, spent time in the NHL, AHL and IR.
  14. D Brad Hunt, has seen some NHL time, currently in AHL.
  15. D Andrew Ference, injured, gone for the season.
  16. D Nikita Nikitin, got a (ghastly) cup of coffee, back in the minors.
  17. D David Musil, AHL D. May get a look in the second half.
  18. D Jordan Oesterle, AHL D. Improving, might get a look.
  19. D Joey Laleggia, AHL D.
  20. D Dillon Simpson, AHL D.
  21. D Martin Gernat, AHL D.
  22. D Ben Betker, ECHL D, had a cup of coffee in the AHL recently.
  23. C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, NHL center. Injured.
  24. C Leon Draisaitl, emerging NHL talent.
  25. C Connor McDavid, brilliant 13 games, back soon.
  26. C Anton Lander, checking NHL C.
  27. C Mark Letestu, checking NHL C.
  28. C Jujhar Khaira, AHL C spent some time in the NHL.
  29. C Andrew Miller, AHL C, used to play wing.
  30. C Bogdan Yakimov, on loan to the KHL, for either six months or 50 years.
  31. C Kyle Platzer, AHL C looking good.
  32. L Taylor Hall, Quality NHL forward. Hey, you’re an All-Star!
  33. L Benoit Pouliot, No. 2 L for the Oil.
  34. R Zack Kassian, playing well as an Oiler.
  35. L Lauri Korpikoski, checking NHL W.
  36. L Matt Hendricks, checking NHL W.
  37. L Luke Gazdic, NHL Enforcer.
  38. L Ryan Hamilton, AHL winger, mentor.
  39. L Kale Kessy, AHL winger/enforcer showing some signs.
  40. L Mitch Moroz, AHL winger/enforcer.
  41. L Braden Christoffer, rugged new pro W.
  42. R Jordan Eberle, scoring winger. Rumors have him heading to Brooklyn.
  43. R Nail Yakupov, emerging NHL scorer.
  44. R Teddy Purcell, veteran NHL W having a good year.
  45. R Iiro Pakarinen, back in the NHL, being useful.
  46. R Rob Klinkhammer, energy winger in the NHL.
  47. R Anton Slepyshev, talented winger started in NHL, currently injured in AHL.
  48. R Tyler Pitlick, AHL winger is back and scoring. Stay healthy, dammit!
  49. R Greg Chase, up and down between ECHL and AHL.

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99 Responses to "LOTS OF INTEL, WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?"

  1. Halfwise says:

    Eberle and Schultz are over $10M in cap hit between them, no? That’s got to limit the trade partners right there.

    What team has expensive heavy players including a top-pairing RD for sale, and is keen for a talent upgrade because they’ve already got “hard to play against” covered?

    Chiarelli’s going to need a serious thermal imaging telescopic snipersight to pull off this shot.

  2. RexLibris says:

    Man.

    In 2012 the Oilers’ RW depth chart ran Hemsky, Eberle, Yakupov.

    By 2016 the depth chart could run Purcell, Yakupov.

    Night and day and it makes a hole on the roster, albeit at a position where you can typically go and find a gun for hire.

    Mr. Okposo, how would you like to be an Edmonton Oiler?

  3. Bar_Qu says:

    Too many ppl saying “your team has a player they need to get rid of because of X issue. Let us give you one of our best players to solve it.”

    When the Oil make a trade I hope it’s because Chia can fleece someone who is over a barrel. Like “good prospect/low cap hit for player who has to move/too little cap room”. And I agree with the notion 1st rnd pick can definitely be in play to make it happen.

  4. Магия 10 says:

    “If Edmonton wants to recall Reinhart, candidates would include Darnell Nurse and waiving Luke Gazdic—neither likely”

    Darnell is underwater and as you’ve pointed out time in the A could be a good option. Not sure Oilers management doing something smart you’ve suggested is completely unlikely. Think we may see Reinhart right back up here for Tuesday. There may be some more time for them to decide who goes down first when the first of Davidson and Klef returns.

  5. Lowetide says:

    Halfwise:
    Eberle and Schultz are over $10M in cap hit between them, no? That’s got to limit the trade partners right there.

    What team has expensive heavy players including a top-pairing RD for sale, and is keen for a talent upgrade because they’ve already got “hard to play against” covered?

    Chiarelli’s going to need a serious thermal imaging telescopic snipersight to pull off this shot.

    Oilers could retain on Schultz.

  6. Lowetide says:

    RexLibris:
    Man.

    In 2012 the Oilers’ RW depth chart ran Hemsky, Eberle, Yakupov.

    By 2016 the depth chart could run Purcell, Yakupov.

    Night and day and it makes a hole on the roster, albeit at a position where you can typically go and find a gun for hire.

    Mr. Okposo, how would you like to be an Edmonton Oiler?

    Making room for Stamkos. (tiptoes from room, head low)

  7. Lowetide says:

    Магия 10:
    “If Edmonton wants to recall Reinhart, candidates would include Darnell Nurse and waiving Luke Gazdic—neither likely”

    Darnell is underwater and as you’ve pointed out time in the A could be a good option. Not sure Oilers management doing something smart you’ve suggested is completely unlikely. Think we may see Reinhart right back up here for Tuesday. There may be some more time for them to decide who goes down first when the first ofDavidson and Klef returns.

    I would agree except they keep playing the hell out of Nurse.

  8. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: Making room for Stamkos. (tiptoes from room, head low)

    I have it on Good Authority that he’s Ontario-bound.

    Actually, kind of funny now that I think of it, but I’m surprised there hasn’t been a Vancouver media murmur about the Canucks bringing him in.

    The cap has all but sunk any hopes the Flames can afford him and the Jets appear to be having trouble keeping their own FAs.

    For what it’s worth, I’d be quite happy to have the entire NHL chase Stamkos around for a few weeks on contract offers while Chiarelli went about signing all the best of the other FAs to flesh out this roster.

  9. Магия 10 says:

    Lowetide: I would agree except they keep playing the hell out of Nurse.

    By the time one of Davidson or Klef returns they’ll have more chance to compare the results of that against the results of seasoning Reinhart. That could be the story that starts next week.

  10. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: I would agree except they keep playing the hell out of Nurse.

    But how much of that was just dragging this corpse of a roster across the ASB finish line and then re-evaluating once they make a few adjustments around the deadline?

    I bet Chiarelli told McLellan to just get Nurse the minutes and tell him to keep his head up and use it as a big learning experience while the GM tries to move a few pieces around and bring in some reinforcements.

    And look at it this way, at least they appear to have been shaken free of the Schultz spell.

  11. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    RNH and Schultz for Grabbo and Ham. That’s my call.

  12. Магия 10 says:

    RexLibris:

    I bet Chiarelli told McLellan to just get Nurse the minutes and tell him to keep his head up and use it as a big learning experience while the GM tries to move a few pieces around and bring in some reinforcements.

    They invoked the mercy rule on Drai. Not the same artificial deadline but they still may show mercy.

  13. Lowetide says:

    Магия 10: By the time one of Davidson or Klef returns they’ll have more chance to compare the results of that against the results of seasoning Reinhart. That could be the story that starts next week.

    Davidson and Klefbom calm a lot of water, no doubt.

  14. Магия 10 says:

    Lowetide: Davidson and Klefbom calm a lot of water, no doubt.

    They both may go down when that pair is back. But if there is a gap between the returns it will be interesting to see what the Oilers have learned (if anything) from the results of developing one and burying the other.

  15. Rondo says:

    They could draft RW if they are in the right spot.

    Laine

    Puljujarvi

    Dubois

  16. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Sounds like Okposo, Tavares’ RW, isn’t re signing. I really wouldn’t be surprised to see Eberle fill that spot.

    My concern with trading Eberle is RNH’s offence. Maybe they’ll need to pick up Okposo. I don’t see a lot of points being put up with Kassian and Pakarinen.

  17. slopitch says:

    Ya I would think something like okposo, hamonic for Ebs, Schultz (oilers retain all of schultz’ salary this year) would make sense for both teams given the situations.

    Allows them to back up the brinks truck for buf and keep the lottery pick.

  18. Water Fire says:

    Yak given Eberle’s usage, free passes and line mates will score as much as Eberle IMO.

    There are wingers to sign this summer, and who doesn’t want to be Connor’s winger? Talk about a career enhancement.

    IF Chia can cash Eberle, Yak or Pouliot into what they need it’s all good. Purcell should be moved just for the equity and anyone else they can get something for.

    Again if Eriksson doesn’t re-up with the Bruins the Oilers have an inside track. Same with Lucic, LA is cap hamstrung but never underestimate Lombardi.

  19. böök¡je says:

    Not sure if this has been shared yet or not, but its a must read

    http://www.theplayerstribune.com/a-guy-like-me/

    John Scott on the league BS regarding All Start Game.

  20. JDï™ says:

    Water Fire: Same with Lucic

    Lucic – McDavid – Zackassian (I know they’re both right shots…)

    In trucker vernacular, Conner would be in the ‘rockin chair’ with those wingers.

    TEN FOUR GOOD BUDDY!

  21. kinger_OIL says:

    – How ’bout Okposo, Hamonic for Ebs, Jultz (we pay most of his salary) Nurse (try Davidson and a 2nd?, then Nurse?)

  22. Lowetide says:

    JDï™: Lucic – McDavid – Zackassian (I know they’re both right shots…)

    In trucker vernacular, Conner would be in the ‘rockin chair’ with those wingers.

    TEN FOUR GOOD BUDDY!

    Hall-Draisaitl-Purcell
    Pouliot-McDavid-Kassian
    Lander-Nuge-???

  23. JDï™ says:

    Lowetide: ???

    I just want Connor to be okay, forever more.

  24. Thor762 says:

    JDï™,

    Including Byfuglien on D every shift that McDavid is out right?

  25. dannyboy says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    Couldnt nuge move up and center hall and drai, worked earlierthis year.

  26. Lowetide says:

    JDï™: I just want Connor to be okay, forever more.

    Quoth the raven.

  27. kinger_OIL says:

    böök¡je,

    There was a good interview with Bill Daly on this, and a few of his comments:

    “But certainly we made our bed with respect to the fan engagement part of this where fans were free to make a choice as to who they would like to see participate. Once you have a voting mechanism in place, as long as there is nothing illegitimate about the voting process, you have to respect the vote.

    “We’re looking forward to have John there, I know he is looking forward to it, I know his family is looking forward to it.”

    “It’s an all-star game. It’s not life and death.”

    – Scott is a very grounded intelligent hockey guy, that Tribune post fabulous, and Daly’s comments reasonable.

    – Let’s get on with it: we’d all do what Scott is doing.

  28. David says:

    I believe Nuge Leon and McDavid will all be top six next year. Leon moving to right wing covers for Eberle being traded. Or Todd will try Nuge on the wing as he has paralleled Nuge and Pavelski. Don’t believe they’ll run them three deep.

  29. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    kinger_OIL,

    Okposo is a UFA. So that’s about the biggest overpay in history.

  30. kinger_OIL says:

    Ca$h-McMoney!,

    – you get him to agree to sign, and we have the dollars: it happens all the time, its just never reported.

    – Petry for instance: he was signing no doubt. They all sign basically, its just not in the rules

  31. JDï™ says:

    Thor762:
    JDï™,

    IncludingByfuglien on D every shift that McDavid is out right?

    Are you 10-200ing me?

  32. jonrmcleod says:

    What would the people of Toronto do if the Oilers, after winning the McDavid lottery, signed Toronto boy Steven Stamkos? The more I think about this, the more I hope it happens. The icing on the cake would be if he signed for less than the Leafs offered.

  33. Thor762 says:

    JDï™,

    Haha. Haven’t heard/read that code in a long while.

    No no, nothing like that. Just think it would be funny seeing Lucic and Kassian on the wings, with Big Buff bringing up the rear guard. A big “touch him and suffer much pain” message.

  34. Loyal2theoil says:

    Last I checked, Norfolk winning 5-0, Chase has 2g 1a

  35. Fog of Warts says:

    böök¡je:
    http://www.theplayerstribune.com/a-guy-like-me/

    Great read. He’s a natural writer. Probably a longer piece than he’s used to writing. I had a strong impression that his blood sugar was declining in the second half.

    Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that I sit at the keyboard and type as fast as I can for two hours straight (like the mysterious boundary between itching and burning, there is also a strange boundary between clacking and humming). During that time—suppose I’m also playing with words—I figure I make two to three conscious decisions per second on top of what I vaguely detect as tiny subconscious decisions sorting themselves out in my mental basement at about ten times that rate. Let’s just call it 20,000 small mental decisions packed into a brisk two hours. Or perhaps twice that many packed into four hours. I do tend to lose track of time in the heat of the moment something awful.

    Even though I’ve learned to tell when my blood sugar levels are collapsing—every word is 1/4″ off true and I soon I find myself down to the floor on my hands and knees wielding the heavy tools of persuasion until my plumber’s passport gets frostbite—I just can’t call off the dogs. Instead, I kind of race them. More than once I’ve just barely crossed the finish line in full swoon (me, yes; my sneakers, no).

    In programming there’s this thing called “code smells”. (I personally think the term would be ten times more useful as “documentation smells”, but I digress.) I think there’s also such a thing as a low-blood-sugar smell, but it’s probably an acquired lost race.

  36. Lowetide says:

    Bakersfield Condors ‏@Condors 41m41 minutes ago

    FORWARDS:
    Hamilton – Khaira – Pitlick
    Kassian – Winquist – Miller
    Jones – Currie – Ford
    Kessy – McRae – Platzer
    Bakersfield Condors ‏@Condors 40m40 minutes ago

    DEFENSE:
    Reinhart – Oesterle
    Simpson – Musil
    LaLeggia – Hunt

    IN NET: The man they call LB,

  37. Thor762 says:

    JDï™,

    Well Fook Me.

    Hamonic and Byfuglien perhaps. Is that something that would sit well?

  38. JDï™ says:

    Thor762: Byfuglien perhaps

    Price and/or term might not sit well. Depends how badly he wants to play with McDavid.

    And he can play wing too!

  39. Thor762 says:

    JDï™,

    Best case with that scenario might be to front load the dollar amount and balance the cap as much as possible. So that when his usefulness tapers off his contract might still look good to a cap floor team. By then it would be less actual dollars owed and a higher cap hit.

  40. MrEd says:

    Lowetide,

    “The man they call LB”
    Good grief I’m hoping for his future.

  41. LoDog says:

    Lowetide: Hall-Draisaitl-Purcell
    Pouliot-McDavid-Kassian
    Lander-Nuge-???

    If eberle is traded for a dman move nuge to the wing, problem solved. Bet he puts up more than 50 points as a winger.

  42. GCW_69 says:

    Eberle and Gryba for Hamonic and Strome.

  43. AsiaOil says:

    G – the govt of Japan is monetizing everything in sight, even outright buying assets like the Nikkei to try fend off deflation produced by the overwhelming debt. The demographics you discuss also effect the amount of bond purchases by Mrs Wattanabe and her countrymen/women. But Mrs Wattanabe doesn’t matter – the country is old and soaking in debt which can never be repaid unless you create a firestorm of inflation which they cannot ignite because of the debt. It’s self-reinforcing and an economic death spiral. They are ‘pushing on a string” and there is no demand because debt keeps eating everything – and negative interest rates are their last line of defense to try keep it under control. They will fail.

    It’s simple – no country has ever exceeded 200% debt to GDP and not defaulted – ever. You can dance the Keynesian fiscal dance in a circle and pretend they “owe it to themselves” and it’s all just paper that can be printed at will and ad infinitum – and that’s fine – until it isn’t and the confidence in the yen ponzi collapses.

    Japan is dead man walking.

    Bohologo:
    Are we in here now? If so, my apologies for bringing along something from the last thread. If anything will get me banned from this place faster than politics or religion, it’s macro-talk.

    However!

    AsiaOil noted:

    It’s quite true that Japan’s debt/GDP ratio appears parlous. But here’s the thing: if the debt is unsustainable, why are interest rates so low? We should be looking at Zimbabwe (or, at very least, Argentine) debt pricing, right?

    The key is to examine who is holding Japanese debt.If you look at time series data, Japanese government securities have been held almost exclusively (until the last few years) by Japanese domestic savers. Japanese debt is held internally.

    Historically high domestic savings (households and firms) rates, coupled with a non-trivial home bias, means that Japanese domestic savers absorbed government debt (Japan Post Bank and Japan Post Insurance are two great examples of entities holding enormous JGBs).

    Even 10 years ago foreign holdings of Japanese public debt was barely more than 10%, which is what has kept the bond market vigilantes at bay.Remember when James Carville said he wanted to be reincarnated as the bond market, so he could intimidate everybody? Great quote, but less applicable in Japan.

    Foreign holdings are higher now, but talk of a Japanese default a la Argentina or Russia is extreme and unwarranted.

    All of which explains why the Calgary Flames are godless savages.

  44. JDï™ says:

    Thor762,

    And stock The Mall’s pond with trout!

  45. MrEd says:

    Hamonic is so valuable.
    I mean at his price, playing history and apparent character he represents real value.
    Moreover he’s a RHD.

    Eberle is an awesome player. A clutch jewel.
    That said I’m honestly worried that because of his contract, size and the fact that the Islanders already have Okposo’s history….

    if I’m Snow I’m not making this trade straight up. He can allocate the difference in dollars to re-signing Okposo and come out with a happy Islander. There is going to have to more from the Oilers end IMO.

  46. JDï™ says:

    GCW_69:
    Eberle and Gryba for Hamonic and Strome.

    You should enter ON’s trade proposal contest.

  47. LMHF#1 says:

    Signing Ted Purcells who have strong contract years is what bad hockey teams do.

    Can the Oilers not be a bad hockey team for once please?

  48. AsiaOil says:

    I want RNH between Hall and Drai next year. It gives Drai another year to mature and CMD another year of experience. If Drai is on right wing with Yak and Kassian I think we are big, skilled and tough. If we feel like we need another center – then a guy like Berglund in STL – he’s big, decent offensively, probably “getable”. Shultz and Purcell for Berglund with us retaining money on Purcell to make if work if necessary – gets them some offense with Purcell and a poor man’s Shattenkirk if they trade him in a separate deal. I’m not sold on Purcell next year – sell high and wish him well after a job well done.

    Hall RNH Drai
    Pou CMD Yak
    Hendricks Berglund Kassian

    That gives us some combination of Eberle, Purcell, Shultz, Gryba, Fayne, and the #1 pick to get us a #1 RHD and a #3 center. What ever is not required to get the dman I use to try pick up a bigger vet center like Berglund and/or sell for picks to restock the prospect cupboard. I’d expect Chia will be both buying and selling aggressively this year.

    Lowetide: Hall-Draisaitl-Purcell
    Pouliot-McDavid-Kassian
    Lander-Nuge-???

  49. Lowetide says:

    Kassian just beat hell out of some guy, hope he didnt hurt himself.

  50. G Money says:

    AsiaOil: o try fend off deflation produced by the overwhelming debt.

    See, this is what I think is interesting about Japan (and where I don’t agree with you).

    I believe this relationship is reverse from what you’ve stated. That’s why I rambled on for so long about Japan’s demographics.

    The deflation is not (IMO) being produced by the debt.

    The deflation precedes the debt. Deflation has been a recurring theme in the Japanese economy since 1980s. Throughout the 80s and even half the 90s, Japan’s debt was under 20% of GDP. I believe it is demographics driving the economy which drives the deflation.

    The debt has been incurred trying to fight off deflation. They started earnestly in the late 90s (when debt was still comparably modest – 30% of GDP or so) and have run it up to 200%+ since then.

    None of which makes sense – no economy should be able to do that without triggering hyperinflation – except, as you and Boho have pointed out, Japan is also unusual in that so much of its debt is held internally (by an aging nation of savers). So getting a bead on ‘net debt’ and comparing that number to other countries seems impossible.

    It seems to me then that the opposite of what you’re saying is also going to happen in that defaulting on enormous amounts debt (which seems inevitable) will be (inherently) deflationary. It takes enormous chunks out of the money supply AND slows the velocity of money.

    So all that deflation that they’ve been staving off for so many years will come home to roost in one fell swoop.

    What happens then? No idea. Can you have a Great Deflationary Depression with 100% employment?

    All of which gets back to my original point – I don’t think anything of what is or is going to happen in Japan offers that much of a lesson to the rest of the developed world from a policy perspective, because almost all of their situation is so fundamentally different from most developed nations. OTHER than the necessity of immigration offsetting the Great Boomer Wave of Retirement … otherwise the West follows that same curve.

  51. G Money says:

    MrEd: if I’m Snow I’m not making this trade straight up.

    The only reason this trade occurs at all is because Hamonic has requested it (and for seemingly honourable reasons). Snow either honours that request or deals with an increasingly unhappy player.

    It’s a no-win situation for him, as it was for Lowe post-Pronger. The fact that the Oilers are ON the preferred list rather than on the no-fly list (for a change) is a super bonus.

    This is why he’s available.

    The fact that he wants to come west severely limits the number of possible bidders, which is what creates a potentially significant discount to his real trade value.

    If he doesn’t make the request, you aren’t prying him off the Island for anything short of Hall or McDavid.

  52. böök¡je says:

    kinger_OIL:
    böök¡je,

    There was a good interview with Bill Daly on this, and a few of his comments:

    “But certainly we made our bed with respect to the fan engagement part of this where fans were free to make a choice as to who they would like to see participate. Once you have a voting mechanism in place, as long as there is nothing illegitimate about the voting process, you have to respect the vote.

    “We’re looking forward to have John there, I know he is looking forward to it, I know his family is looking forward to it.”

    “It’s an all-star game. It’s not life and death.”

    – Scott is a very grounded intelligent hockey guy, that Tribune post fabulous, and Daly’s comments reasonable.

    – Let’s get on with it: we’d all do what Scott is doing.

    Sure, after they shipped him to Newfoundland.

  53. kooler says:

    Purcell to Hawks?

  54. LadiesloveSmid says:

    who plays 3C next year? I imagine Lander is gone or 13th F. Helm, Matthias?

    Stamkos? 😉

  55. Lowetide says:

    Zack Kassian is a very good player. Made a fantastic pass on his back hand just now

  56. Lowetide says:

    Hunt (Pitlick, Winquist) 1-0 Bakersfield.

  57. Pouzar says:

    kooler:
    Purcell to Hawks?

    Eklund says so…so he’s safe for now.

  58. Pouzar says:

    Ryan Holt ‏@CondorsHolty 1m1 minute ago
    Kassian is terrorizing the Moose. Hunt’s clapper will solve the PP issue. Pitlick and Winquist keep it going. Good start.

  59. JDï™ says:

    Lowetide:
    Kassian just beat hell out of some guy, hope he didnt hurt himself.

    Lowetide:
    Zack Kassian is a very good player. Made a fantastic pass on his back hand just now

    What do I do if this lasts for more than four hours?

  60. flyfish1168 says:

    kooler:
    Purcell to Hawks?

    For Mark McNeil ? Neither player have excellent acceleration

  61. Pouzar says:

    JDï™:
    What do I do if this lasts for more than four hours?

    Watch some Jultzin?

  62. JDï™ says:

    Pouzar,

    Trust you to deliver a sobering thought.

  63. 719 says:

    As much as I want him to come here, Stamkos will go to the highest bidder. He has referenced the deals and Toews and Kane signed with Chicago several times, most recently today, specifically mentioning 10 million. I am sure the Anze Kopitar deal only cemented him further in his position. As Callahan’s agent said, sometime it is an ego thing and the guy wants as much or more than another guy got. I think that is the case with Stamkos, can’t say I wouldn’t do the same in his shoes. Its a short career and you should make as much as possible while you can.

  64. Lowetide says:

    Brossoit was brilliant on a 3-on-5, Khaira took a shot to (I believe) the arm but is on the bench.

  65. flyfish1168 says:

    719:
    As much as I want him to come here, Stamkos will go to the highest bidder.He has referenced the deals and Toews and Kane signed with Chicago several times, most recently today, specifically mentioning 10 million.I am sure the Anze Kopitar deal only cemented him further in his position.As Callahan’s agent said, sometime it is an ego thing and the guy wants as much or more than another guy got.I think that is the case with Stamkos, can’t say I wouldn’t do the same in his shoes.Its a short career and you should make as much as possible while you can.

    But the difference is he doesn’t have a ring. If that is the way he feels I would not want him on my team. Shows me that he is a selfish player. JMHO

  66. JDï™ says:

    Oh my – Khaira!

  67. Pouzar says:

    JDï™:
    Pouzar,

    Trust you to deliver a sobering thought.

    Debbie Downer I is.

  68. Lowetide says:

    Khaira won a fight over Kosmachuk.

  69. JDï™ says:

    Former Oiler… man!

  70. jm363561 says:

    slopitch:
    Ya I would think something like okposo, hamonic for Ebs, Schultz (oilers retain all of schultz’ salary this year) would make sense for both teams given the situations.
    =====

    This seems to work at both a playing and financial level. If we can resign Okposo (who I know little about) for his rumoured ask of 6m it is pretty much a financial wash. However, this seems more of a post season deal, not something for February. We shall see.

  71. OilClog says:

    Hall/Nuge/Drai
    Lucic/Con/Yak
    Zak/Mark/Pak
    Xxx/Lander/Hendo

    Klef/Buff
    Sekera/Hamonic
    Davidson/Reinhart
    Gryba

    Nurse pissed off in minors.

    Purcell is dealt, Pou is dealt, Drai moves to the wing, Nuge hits 50pts.

    Ebs/Fayne to NYI for Hamonic/Oko.. Chai lets the latter walk in the off season.

    Schultz shipped to the Rangers when they deal Yandle, Chia will create a bidding war between the Bruins, Wings, and Rangers for Schultz. Odd as it sounds

    Chia will successfully land his big, tough, fill in the blanks.

  72. jm363561 says:

    kinger_OIL:
    – How ’bout Okposo, Hamonic for Ebs, Jultz (we pay most of his salary) Nurse (try Davidson and a 2nd?, then Nurse?)

    You must be joking.

  73. Lowetide says:

    Nice move by Pitlick, Ryan Hamilton there for the garbage and 2-2 tie.

  74. Lowetide says:

    Kassian puts Condors ahead.

  75. JDï™ says:

    Did he say ‘holy shot’?

  76. 719 says:

    As far as retaining salary, please remember we have already retained salary on Scrivens. As per CBA rules we are only allowed to retain salary on two more players we send out.

  77. 719 says:

    Looks like Winquist is having another strong night.

  78. dangilitis says:

    Pitlick has more lives than a cat, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

    If a RW is traded at the deadline, I would love nothing more than to see him come up and play out the season (and possibly NA career) up on the bigs, with a string of consecutive games without being plagued by injury.

  79. Lowetide says:

    Ford scores (I think it was Ford) 4-2 Condors.

  80. Lowetide says:

    Miller scores, 5-2 Condors. Winquist another point.

  81. JDï™ says:

    Hey you don’t know me

    But you don’t like me

  82. AsiaOil says:

    Sorry to disagree my friend – but you are absolutely incorrect on this point. Perhaps you forget the zaibatsu which evolved into keiretsu business conglomerates that provided banking and financial services in the 1980s Japan’s Bubble Economy. Japan Inc (as this form of crony capitalism was known in the west) took on massive debt and enormous ill-advised risks in the go-go days of the 1980s where Japan seemed to go from strength to strength. But….

    “Overconfidence and the Bank of Japan’s loose monetary policy in the mid-to-late 1980s led to aggressive speculation in domestic stocks and real estate, pushing the prices of these assets to previously unimaginable levels. From 1985 to 1989, Japan’s Nikkei stock index tripled to 39,000 and accounted for more than one third of the world’s stock market capitalization (Economist, 2011). The keiretsu conglomerates’ practice of cross-holding each other’s shares played a significant role in boosting stock prices and caused Japanese corporate wealth to balloon along with stock prices. In addition, many Japanese corporations practiced a corporate invention known as “zaitech” or “financial engineering,” in which speculative profits and capital gains were reported as income on corporate financial statements. Zaitech-practicing firms obtained low-interest loans and used them to purchase stocks and real estate, which surged and helped the firms to report blowout earnings as long as asset prices continued to rise. At one point, it was estimated that an incredible 40-50% of Japanese corporate earnings were derived from zaitech. Real estate prices experienced similar manic action, with prices in Tokyo’s prime neighborhoods rising to levels that made them 350 times more expensive than comparable land in Manhattan.” (Jesse Columbo, Japan’s Bubble Economy of the 1980s).

    Sound familiar?

    The Bank of Japan finally tried to tightened interest rates to stem the bubble but all that did is cause it to burst. Unprofitable and debt-ridden firms (zombie companies) were kept afloat by government bailouts. Japan is still dealing with the fall-out of the debt produced by the bursting of the 1980s bubble and the deflationary forces that followed it’s demise. The debt was not public originally – it was private – but was gradually pulled onto the pubic books through bailouts and monetization. They destroyed the public balance sheet by trying to save the zombie banks and companies who were drowning in debt instead of letting them go broke.

    So there is lots and lots that the Japanese experience can teach us – and we are following the EXACT same play book. Leveraged speculation in stocks and real estate, financial engineering, zombie banks, moving private debt onto the public books to save debt ridden “too big to fail companies, monetization of the debt, forcing interest rates down to prevent default etc etc etc. Take some time and study bubble economics and it’s Austrian fundamentals. You don’t have to accept all of it – but Keynesian economics has all the credibility of a junkie looking for his next fix – and the Japanese economy is a fantastic example of Keynesian policies producing nothing but failure and even bigger problems down the road.

    Cheers – Asia

    G Money: See, this is what I think is interesting about Japan (and where I don’t agree with you).

    I believe this relationship is reverse from what you’ve stated.That’s why I rambled on for so long about Japan’s demographics.

    The deflation is not (IMO) being produced by the debt.

  83. AsiaOil says:

    You know if they don’t have room for Pitlick on the 50 man roster (and they should) then I hope they offer him an AHL deal and a real shot at an NHL roster slot. As many have said – he always “looks like” an NHL player and he’s had the worst luck of any guy I can remember. Maybe it’s not luck – maybe it’s just the way he is – but I still feel like there is a bottom 6 role in his future. We all have favorites and Pitlick is my own beat up little engine that never seems to make it over the hill.

    dangilitis:
    Pitlick has more lives than a cat, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

    If a RW is traded at the deadline, I would love nothing more than to see him come up and play out the season (and possibly NA career) up on the bigs, with a string of consecutive games without being plagued by injury.

  84. GCW_69 says:

    JDï™: You should enter ON’s trade proposal contest.

    Just saying that if snow really needs a winger to play with Tavares, there is a deal to be made there that works for both parties. Hamonic is going to go and the islanders are so deep at centre they could let Strome go, or Nelson. Not sure Gryba is enough to even out the trade, but maybe, and he plays the side that is weakened by Hamonic’s departure. Or maybe they need to add a draft pick or Schultz with salary retained on both Gryba and Schultz, but there is a deal to be had there.

  85. SwedishPoster says:

    Paigin with two more helpers yesterday. He doesn’t look like he’s going to slow down.

  86. Walter Sobchak says:

    I can’t see RNH going anywhere this summer.

    Snow HAS to trade Hamonic, preferably for another defensmen, I can’t see Chirelli trading his best winger for a player who will never return to NY.

    Doesn’t make a lot of sense, why trade equal when the ice is already tilted?
    What Chirelli should be offering is players like Davidson & Yakupov as opposed to Eberle.

    I believe this to be the better offer that ether Vancouver or Win could do.

    I’m also not convinced the Oilers deal Purcell. (just a hunch)

  87. LoDog says:

    SwedishPoster:
    Paigin with two more helpers yesterday. He doesn’t look like he’s going to slow down.

    That pick has chia all ovet it imo. What say you?

  88. admiralmark says:

    Anybody following the Twitter convo between Friedman and Staples?

    https://twitter.com/dstaples/status/693170471701884929

  89. LoDog says:

    admiralmark:
    Anybody following the Twitter convo between Friedman and Staples?

    https://twitter.com/dstaples/status/693170471701884929

    Interesting. I maintain that eberle spare parts for shat and a dman + for hamonic is the route.

  90. LoDog says:

    Since everyone is in bed and I own this thread Paigin is 6th in team scoring and #1 obv for dmen,

    6’06” to boot.
    PS Fuck you Bookje or whatever your name is.

  91. Diesel says:

    What is the reasonable timeline for a Paigin test drive?

  92. Lowetide says:

    Diesel:
    What is the reasonable timeline for a Paigin test drive?

    He is signed through next season (2016-17) and will be 22 summer 2017. I think that is probably a reasonable window for signing—don’t know his chances of making the big team at that time but he would be in the mix for sure.

  93. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide,

    Paigin Dr. Feelgood?

  94. anonymous says:

    I’d rather ship Ebs to Anaheim. If a package of Vatanan/Cogliano was the return, I’d throw in small pieces to make it work.

    Trading Cogs is still one of my least favorite moves the modern Oilers have ever made.

  95. raventalon40 says:

    OilClog:
    Hall/Nuge/Drai
    Lucic/Con/Yak
    Zak/Mark/Pak
    Xxx/Lander/Hendo

    Klef/Buff
    Sekera/Hamonic
    Davidson/Reinhart
    Gryba

    Nurse pissed off in minors.

    Purcell is dealt, Pou is dealt, Drai moves to the wing, Nuge hits 50pts.

    Ebs/Fayne to NYI for Hamonic/Oko.. Chai lets the latter walk in the off season.

    Schultz shipped to the Rangers when they deal Yandle, Chia will create a bidding war between the Bruins, Wings, and Rangers for Schultz. Odd as it sounds

    Chia will successfully land his big, tough, fill in the blanks.

    I think it’s time to trade Lander for another struggling fringe NHLer. After the season mind you. Maybe Lander for a project D. I’d rather fill that 4th line spot with a veteran UFA center (similar to Gordon, but cheaper). Hell maybe even an RFA tweener via trade. Then we can open up the 4th line winger spots for our own prospects to battle for roster spots at TC.

    3-4 Line Upgrades over Lander:

    UFA Off-season Potentials:
    Tuomo Ruutu
    Shawn Matthias
    Darren Helm
    Dominic Moore

    RFA, Trade Potentials:
    Brayden Schenn, can play anywhere from the 2nd to the 4th line
    Casey Czikas, a punishing hitter, perfect fit for 3/4 line
    Andrew Shaw, a role player with playoff experience

  96. Really? says:

    AsiaOil,

    One other alternative is to keep the line of Hall, RNH, Draisaitl together and run with Pouliot, McDavid, Yakupov. The key,however, would be to acquire Nielsen from NYI as a free agent this summer.

    We always talk about strength down the middle and assume we have it with McD, Drai and RNH. If you add Nielsen as a third line centre and use Letestu as a 4th line C then you truly do have depth. You also have great flexibility in terms of offense and defensive contributions.

  97. AsiaOil says:

    Really?,

    Sure that works – or a trade for a Berglund type – a bigger 3rd line C would be nice for match-ups at home.

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