G54 2015-16: OILERS AT ISLANDERS

The Edmonton Oilers began the week 2-0-0 and looked like a different team, but gave it all back against a team in peril on a nationally televised Saturday game. It was actually a perfect storm: National game, afternoon tilt, and they were up against a former Oiler in Ben Scrivens. None of that should matter, of course. The players didn’t have a lot of structure, had little push after the first period, and to my eye got stubborn on exits and entries. Montreal beat them, credit where due, but the Oilers made it easier with their stubborn ways. Miles to go.

NO SLEEP TILL BROOKLYN, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2014: 4-5-1
  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0
  • Oilers in November 2014: 2-9-3
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2
  • Oilers in December 2014: 2-8-4
  • Oilers in December 2015: 7-6-1
  • Oilers in January 2015: 5-7-1
  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-5-2
  • Oilers in February 2015: 5-6-1
  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-1-0
  • Oilers after 53 in 2014-15: 14-30-9, 37 points (-57 GD)
  • Oilers after 53 in 2015-16: 21-27-5, 47 points (-22 GD)

Edmonton’s goal differential climbed into the teens with two good games early in the week, but fell back into the 20s after yesterday afternoon. The Islanders lost 5-1 as well yesterday (to Detroit) so will no doubt be in foul moods as they hit the ice this afternoon. A year ago, Edmonton won a 2-1 game over New Jersey courtesy a Nail Yakupov goal, as the Devils directed only 14 shots toward Ben Scrivens. Suspect the Tavares bunch will post a larger number today.

DEFENSE, YESTERDAY

oilers blue nov 30

  • Davidson—Gryba was quality, and I do think we are reaching the point where the Oilers will look into signing Gryba. Now, his trade value could spike (if someone offers a third-round selection, PC should take it) but it would not surprise me to find out negotiations are underway. Davidson is pushing for a top 4D role next season, there is no one on the current roster more qualified for the discussion (than Sekera and Klefbom).
  • Sekera—Fayne were mostly good to my eye (I watched the game on pvr, that is both good and bad—you see the actual game but knowing the result places a different, perhaps clinical, view). Sekera was chasing a lot, hell the blue go to the moon in pursuit of the puck carrier in the zone, I have seen it enough to believe that is the preferred play by the coach.
  • One thing about Todd McLellan I have learned? He is not predictable. Now, I would expect the coaching staff to re-tool the blue for today after yesterday, but the obvious (sit Schultz, possibly Nurse) may not happen. I have been pleased to see the coach stay with Sekera—Fayne, but he got into some Sekera—Gryba yesterday and we will see. Nurse—Gryba went 4-0 together.
  • Nurse—Schultz was an adventure, I am not certain how much blame to place on Nurse beyond chaos ruled the day and his partner was stirring the giant chaos stick. As I have mentioned in the past, putting 25 in the pressbox for a game or two is no sin, and sending him down should not be met with marching in the streets, either.
  • Reinhart—Clendening could return to action today. NHL teams have this thing where a former player does well against his team, and anecdotal evidence over the years has me somewhat convinced (I don’t really think it does, but damned Scrivens is fresh in my mind).
  • I would run Sekera—Fayne; Davidson—Clendening; Nurse—Gryba today.

CENTERS, YESTERDAY

oil c nov 30

  • Leon Draisaitl and his line got the clean air (faced Emelin—Petry mostly) and could wheel much of the game. In those situations, this line must cash. The Oilers need them to score in games where they are facing the second division. McLellan pulled the chute when the game was over, they should get more minutes today.
  • Connor McDavid received a steady diet of PK Subban (11:41 against Subban, 9-10 Corsi events) but even with that this line felt more dynamic. Any injury worries should go away after that game, PK was very physical against the phenom. I was impressed with the rookie, he kept pushing when some of the veterans were slamming sticks and showing frustration.
  • Matt Hendricks and his crew didn’t win the Corsi battle, but they rattled at evens and were fairly effective against the Plekanec line.
  • Mark Letestu and his trio were shelled by the flying Plekanecs, beaten down by a line that basically had its way for the entire game. I bet you $100 Yakupov pays for it. (I don’t mean this, clearly. All bets are off, reject all signals, whoa).

WINGERS, YESTERDAY

oilers f nov 30

  • Hall—Purcell had good possession numbers, but I felt they got a little stubborn as the game wore on (and then they basically shut Purcell down and restricted Hall’s minutes). I don’t know if they were being saved or punished, but there is some stubborn on this line.
  • Pouliot—Eberle had some chances, I liked both of their games, save Eberle’s frustration boiling over. That isn’t really fair, the shot to the nuts can put any man off his game, but I feel Eberle is in a spot where he needs to score if McDavid is going, and to my eye McDavid was going.
  • Korpikoski—Pakarinen didn’t play a lot at evens, but to my eye were fine in their time. Not a lot of offense, but they were physical and aggressive.
  • Kassian—Yakupov had no fun against the Plekanecs, and as mentioned above I think it will be pretty easy to stash Yakupov in the PB today. My hope? They move Yakupov up a line and shake things up that way. We wait.

San Antonio Rampage vs. Oklahoma City Barons. Cox Convention Center, Oklahoma City, OK. 10-19-12.

  • Bruce Garrioch: The Oilers have a decision to make on defenceman Justin Schultz before the deadline. Making $3.9 million and scheduled to be an RFA this summer, Schultz, who has 3-6-9 points in 37 games this season, could be moved. Schultz, 25, was signed by the previous regime and there’s plenty of interest in him if Edmonton wants to make a move. A lot of teams are looking for an upgrade on the blueline and the Oilers picked up blueliner Adam Clendening off waivers from the Anaheim last week. Source

I have been waiting for this, and for me this is confirmation that a trade is imminent. Will Schultz stay on the east coast? I believe it possible. The showcase took a hit yesterday, 19 needs a good performance today.

SUBBAN ON MCDAVID’S PLAY IN THE THIRD

  • “From the bench, we were saying it happened so quickly you couldn’t even tell that he went between his legs. For me, I think at this level what blows me away is players that can do these things at top speed. A lot of guys can do them, but at top speed in a game situation? No.” Source

McDavid impressed the hell out of me yesterday. There was a lot of Oilers frustration, and the shots from the bench had 97 wondering, but his quiet demeanor serves him well in these kinds of games. He is a tough guy to read, doesn’t give up at all, and even late in the third period he was pushing. In a game he didn’t hit the scoresheet, he once again showed me something. A giant of the game is emerging in front of us, one frame at a time.

 

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  1. Hope is a good thing says:

    One of the most telling things, and most frustrating for the coaching staff, has to be the inability to learn from their mistakes. For example, how many times does Pouliott have to be told not to deflect shots in front of his own goalie? How to pick up your man and stay with him, and tie him up on the back check. How to cover your point man properly. The list of repeated mistakes goes on ad infinitum. Sooner or later, you have to change some players, or you become guilty of being unable to learn from your mistakes also.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Woodguy: Every goddam time I mention Talbot being good on LT’s show things go for shit.

    Every.
    Goddam.
    Time.

    In fairness, I do insert the question every time (Evil Evil, Doggy Doggy).

  3. G Money says:

    godot10: Why didn’t the forwards change then?If you’ve had a long shift, that is the time to dump it in and go and change.If one has enough energy to try scoring, one better have enough energy to haul ass back.

    Watch the game, nerd. (HAHAHAHA).

    Seriously, why are you asking me? The two sequences were high speed back and forth with good chances for both teams, and the odd man rush that caused the goal was off a blocked shot from the D with the forwards deep.

    If they’d changed mid-shift, they either would have given a goal that much earlier, or they would have neutralized some very promising rushes.

    “You should have changed” is 100% hindsight. If that shot gets through, there were three Oiler forwards in the vicinity of the net.

  4. BONVIE says:

    G Money: He was on with Eberle and McDavid, so McD was the C.

    So off a bad change then by Letetsu, saves himself a minus.

  5. zatch says:

    How does anyone in this organization look at themselves in a mirror? I couldn’t do it. Honestly.

  6. bendelson says:

    frjohnk:
    Even though I don’t blame Talbot, but man Im pissed and feel like gottado something

    I’m blaming Woodguy for afternoon games.

    So I’m back on Woodguy’s lawn

    Next person coming, can you bring a second pitchfork? Mine is stuck in his vehicles grill.I do have an extra torch to trade.

    Forget the pitchfork and come help me roll this damn trebuchet down the street a little further…
    Almost. In. Range.

  7. SwedishPoster says:

    Sleepwalking twice in one weekend. Davidson the only player getting a passing grade. Also a bit surprised at all the critique against Yak, not a great game but pretty much the only forward with some resemblance of try.
    Hall has gone completely a-wall. Drai joined him. Pouliot has been our worst forward alongside Ebs. Ebs has been our of position on every forecheck so far, totally losing his man and ending up behind on every defensive rush. McDavid joins the Oilers tradition of every skill guy being shit in his own end.

    And don’t get me started on the D. Gryba, Fayne, Sekera, Reinhart and Schultz all terrible. Just terrible.

  8. blainer says:

    Write this one off and move on.

    Coach doesn’t get it . Just as well we focus back on the two Finns again.

    Bring on Laine. I want Laine not Matthews. I’m begininig to think winning the Lottery is a curse.

    I will not be watching anymore games that Jultz is dressed for. Not that this is HIS fault today as the entire team less CMD is hitting 10 on the not giving a shit meter.

    Problem with shultz is he is stuck on 10 of the not giving a shit meter.

  9. Hope is a good thing says:

    I could not for the life of me figure out how could someone be that wide open for a breakaway pass, and then I saw who was on right D….

  10. G Money says:

    BONVIE: So off a bad change then by Letetsu, saves himself a minus.

    I don’t think so, the entire rush started with Yak retrieving the puck, and I’m pretty sure Eb and McD were already on the ice. [and I’m not going to defend Letestu, he’s been bad]

  11. SwedishPoster says:

    Hope is a good thing:
    I could not for the life of me figure out how could someone be that wide open for a breakaway pass, and then I saw who was on right D….

    Fayne?

  12. Lowetide says:

    I am having fun tracking the D pairings, but have no plans at this time to do all the Corsi stuff for tomorrow. Probably see a draft post.

  13. Water Fire says:

    Some of you like to be quite condescending if anyone questions the skill players other than Schultz and how they actually contribute to winning. I’m wondering what those of you propose?

    Is it simply the lack of one or two defenseman? Seriously?

    Ladies and gentlemen, the Oilers will have the most expensive backup in the league next year. Broissoit will be starting by half season.

    It’s sad that Sather’s last plundering was the OIlers. Talbot is very talented but like most of the rest of the team he’s either great or awful. That doesn’t work.

  14. JDï™ says:

    Habs fans singing with eight minutes left, and now clearing out Barclay’s with fifteen left.

    They’ve really put the ass in embarrass this weekend.

  15. LMHF#1 says:

    Haven’t been watching and I honestly thought people were joking when they said Schultz was playing today. Yet there he is. Unbelievable.

  16. OF17 says:

    Hope is a good thing:
    One of the most telling things, and most frustrating for the coaching staff, has to be the inability to learn from their mistakes. For example, how many times does Pouliott have to be told not to deflect shots in front of his own goalie? How to pick up your man and stay with him, and tie him up on the back check. How to cover your point man properly. The list of repeated mistakes goes on ad infinitum. Sooner or later, you have to change some players, or you become guilty of being unable to learn from your mistakes also.

    That’s been the book on Pouliot forever. 95% of the time makes solid to good plays, 5% of the time makes plays that make you question the other 95%. We’d be throwing away a good player if we went on the 5%.

    Of course if we gets traded for a D and replaced by Lucic/Ladd/Boedker at a reasonable price, I won’t be mad, but he’s far from the problem on this team.

  17. Professor Q says:

    The old Hall vs. Harmonic footage with no commentary.

  18. Johnny skid says:

    SwedishPoster:
    Sleepwalking twice in one weekend. Davidson the only player getting a passing grade. Also a bit surprised at all the critique against Yak, not a great game but pretty much the only forward with some resemblance of try.
    Hall has gone completely a-wall. Drai joined him. Pouliot has been our worst forward alongside Ebs. Ebs has been our of position on every forecheck so far, totally losing his man and ending up behind on every defensive rush. McDavid joins the Oilers tradition of every skill guy being shit in his own end.
    this team can leave you wanting.
    And don’t get me started on the D. Gryba, Fayne, Sekera, Reinhart and Schultz all terrible. Just terrible.

    very frustrating!

  19. G Money says:

    SwedishPoster: And don’t get me started on the D. Gryba, Fayne, Sekera, Reinhart and Schultz all terrible. Just terrible.

    Sekera seems hot and cold. Some shifts really good, some bad.

    But I agree, the others have been really really poor.

  20. G Money says:

    Man, you can really see the 2nd-game-back-to-back-3-of-4-on-the-road effect there.

    8 leaden legs.

  21. Professor Q says:

    Well, at least it was Okposo…

  22. JDï™ says:

    The worst Van Halen album ever – Oh you 8 – 1 too!

  23. Lowetide says:

    Water Fire:
    Some of you like to be quite condescending if anyone questions the skill players other than Schultz and how they actually contribute to winning. I’m wondering what those of you propose?

    Is it simply the lack of one or two defenseman? Seriously?

    Ladies and gentlemen, the Oilers will have the most expensive backup in the league next year. Broissoit will be starting by half season.

    It’s sad that Sather’s last plundering was the OIlers. Talbot is very talented but like most of the rest of the team he’s either great or awful. That doesn’t work.

    I don’t think blaming Talbot for this mess is possible. Seriously.

  24. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Water Fire,

    You are on some awesome substances if you lay these two losses on Talbot. Like, right out to lunch.

  25. blainer says:

    Water Fire:
    Some of you like to be quite condescending if anyone questions the skill players other than Schultz and how they actually contribute to winning. I’m wondering what those of you propose?

    Is it simply the lack of one or two defenseman? Seriously?

    Ladies and gentlemen, the Oilers will have the most expensive backup in the league next year. Broissoit will be starting by half season.

    It’s sad that Sather’s last plundering was the OIlers. Talbot is very talented but like most of the rest of the team he’s either great or awful. That doesn’t work.

    I get what you are saying about Talbot.

    He’s had a bad couple of games at this point lately. before that he was on a terrific run . Like the rest of the team he seems to have given up on this game.

    He will have to suck in the next six before I start to get worried again.

    I will say though that we should have a quick look at LB very soon and send Nilsson down.

  26. Chris says:

    Yeah, we’re close to turning north. If I didn’t laugh I would cry. Just brutal.

  27. Water Fire says:

    To Swedishs’ (?) point, “Ja like dags? Ya, I like ‘dags’.”

    Seriously, why is it that defensemwn noted for good defensive acumen and quality play like shit after a stint on the Oilers?

    Is it because they are all secretly awful players and only the Oilers didn’t notice?

    Save us Chiarelli!

  28. OF17 says:

    Water Fire,

    Every goalie has bad games. Even Martin Brodeur did. The thing with Talbot is that most of the time, he’s stopping more than he should, and those games where you shake your head have become a once or twice a month affair.

    Talbot is the best goalie the Oilers have had since… Salo? Dubnyk is a contender, but the point remains. Talbot might be the best Oilers goalie this millennium. And this game aside, he’s only gotten better as the season has gone on.

  29. Klima's_Bucket says:

    You put Hamonic on the Oilers… it’d be 8-1 the other way…

  30. G Money says:

    I don’t mean to get too snarky, but if your assessment of these Oilers is based on these last two games, then you are being as foolish as someone who based their assessment of the Oilers one the two games before that.

    Seriously.

  31. jp says:

    GCW_69: Does this mean thesiege at Woodguy’s house is back on?

    Sounds like FRJOHNK and BENDELSON will be there at least. Maybe Woodguy will get off his couch. I think you’re good to go!

  32. hags9k says:

    I hear the Oilers this season have held onto their cards longer before throwing them in.

    Not this weekend. They didn’t even see the flop.

  33. jp says:

    hags9k:
    jp,

    I thought the gloves came off and things got serious once Strait showed up.

    Yeah, not certain when Kassian’s gloves came off, you may be right. Regardless of the gloves, he did instigate the fight(ing) generally.

  34. BONE207 says:

    2010-Hall drafted
    What I gave up? Shopping at Rexall
    2011-Nuge drafted
    What I gave up? Chasing women
    2012-Yakupov drafted
    What I gave up? Deep fried foods
    2013-Darnell drafted
    What I gave up? Walking naked in the house
    2014-Leon drafted
    What I gave up? Believing in Gord
    2015-Connor drafted
    What I gave up? Eating red meat as per UN
    2016-???
    What I gave up? Oilers??

    PS…I’m not giving up Crown Royal. It’s all I’ve got to dull the pain

  35. BONVIE says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    Water Fire,

    You are on some awesome substances if you lay these two losses on Talbot. Like, right out to lunch.

    It was a team effort, maybe a few guys that didnt contrbute to the route, but the MVP was probably Nillson who set the tone early.

    The forwards were every bit on the hook as the defense for this one, you need to backcheck.

  36. Lowetide says:

    Bone: Crown Royal profits must be through the roof. 🙂

  37. Pastor of Disaster says:

    Professor Q:
    Well, at least it was Okposo…

    Frustrating thing is that everyone on the ice and on the bench and in the stands knew they wanted to get it to Okposo. Guys were turning down easy goals to get the puck to Okposo. All it took was a little extra attention on Okposo.

    Okposo still scores.

    One day I will sit my daughters on my knee and tell them about weekends like this and they won’t believe it. Hopefully.

  38. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    BONVIE,

    Ya I’d be perfectly fine with laying this on Nilsson and the forwards but one of those two has more of a primary responsibility. The game was over 12 minutes in on three very mediocre chances. The Oilers psyche is not a hard shell

  39. hags9k says:

    jp,

    He was generally being a dink (I loved it) and the refs called him. Understandable, but by the book I’d say Strait instigated.

  40. G Money says:

    The Oilers had the better chances by far early. They’ve still had a number of decent chances even as they’ve been snowed (pni) under.

    Asking a team to somehow come up with a stellar effort on the second game of a back to back and third game in four nights, on the road, after giving up three soft goals early might be a tad much.

  41. Professor Q says:

    I do think this weekend may be the shock Edmonton needed, though.

    Change will come soon. I don’t know who will be going nor who will be coming, but change will come soon.

  42. Mr DeBakey says:

    Some Quotes from the 1st Period Gamethread at Lighthouse Hockey:

    “if i’m an Oilers fan, what i’m thinking right now is that i’d willing trade some forward depth — even overpay a bit — to obtain a legit defender (i.e., Hammer) (of course, not employing a traffic cone in goal would also be a start.)”

    “Bwahah – Nilsson gives Kulie a free one”

    “This is the Nilsson we all remember……and the one we gave away”

    “I like Nilsson and Reinhart playing for EDM today.”

    “Can’t imagine why we gave up on Nilsson…”

    ‘Nice shot by JFT…but, wow, Nilsson is terrible. Which we knew.”

  43. Professor Q says:

    If Yak had gotten the puck through to the net and that stick in the net impeded the puck’s progress, what would the ruling be?

  44. BONE207 says:

    Lowetide,

    That alone drives me to drink

  45. Zelepukin says:

    I love this whole, Jultz is being shopped storyline. Who in their right mind is watching this guy and thinking, ya we need him on our roster? Even if we retained his complete salary, it would still cost a team goals against. You would be rather pissed as a fan if your team traded for Jultz.

  46. Water Fire says:

    Lowetide: I don’t think blaming Talbot for this mess is possible. Seriously.

    I didn’t mean to blame Talbot, I should have separated those points. But Talbot’s inconsistency is very concerning. He shits the bed big time, starting goalies that aren’t injured have to establish consistency, he has never.

    My main point is that the forwards are sinking team D far beyond Schultz being a tweener and Gryba a puck squarer.

    They are not willing to play hard enough every game to win. They roll when they’re on and facing weak resistance, and quit the game if it’s work IMO. I don’t think Connor is in this conversation.

    They need to find some horses to cover the 3 skill guys worth allowing their ups and downs. I think Yak shows up every game, the question is will he work for third line money and play a solid two way game?

    I know I sound negative but I don’t feel negative about the Oilers since Connor, I’m just sick of watching guys play such selfish immature games. Time to grow up if this thing moves ahead. Out of the bar or whatever it is and come to work, invested, every day.

    And exactly how hard is it for a guy who played first pairing minutes to defend a two on one properly? They might score but you at least need to look like you know how to do it!

    Winning players learn to play D, and it’s not that freakin hard. Only if you’re too selfish. It’s a sacrifice, for the team and most importantly for ultimate success.

  47. bendelson says:

    jp: Sounds like FRJOHNK and BENDELSON will be there at least. Maybe Woodguy will get off his couch. I think you’re good to go!

    Of course, I’ve got nothing against WG. I just can’t resist a nice Sunday afternoon siege.
    The sun is shining and there will be refreshments!

  48. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Watch how easily the Oilers give up the neutral zone every time. Stauffer going on and on about the goaltending. Rienhart looks overwhelmed tonight. Chia not looking good tonight with his picks for players moves.

  49. JDï™ says:

    BONE207: I’m not giving up Crown Royal.

    Make yourself a Manhattan today – you’ve earned it.

  50. frjohnk says:

    jp: Sounds like FRJOHNK and BENDELSON will be there at least. Maybe Woodguy will get off his couch. I think you’re good to go!

    I have it on pretty good authority that Woodguy is going to join us.

    Even he has had enough.

  51. Professor Q says:

    Zelepukin:
    I love this whole, Jultz is being shopped storyline. Who in their right mind is watching this guy and thinking, ya we need him on our roster?Even if we retained his complete salary, it would still cost a team goals against. You would be rather pissed as a fan if your team traded for Jultz.

    Which further worries us Oilers fans as to why McLellan insists on playing him so much.

  52. Lowetide says:

    Zelepukin:
    I love this whole, Jultz is being shopped storyline. Who in their right mind is watching this guy and thinking, ya we need him on our roster?Even if we retained his complete salary, it would still cost a team goals against. You would be rather pissed as a fan if your team traded for Jultz.

    It is being reported via media sources, but I tend to agree. I think there is a real chance Schultz will have to regain his career in the minors. Edmonton was not a good choice for the young man.

  53. BONVIE says:

    Well usually trade values fall right through the floor after games like these last two. I mean usually thats when the vultures arrive to pick your bones. The only positive is surely now we are clear sellers.

  54. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Time to give LB a few games. Nothing to lose and he deserves a look..

  55. Professor Q says:

    Sekera with this save!

  56. Zelepukin says:

    Lowetide: It is being reported via media sources, but I tend to agree. I think there is a real chance Schultz will have to regain his career in the minors. Edmonton was not a good choice for the young man.

    Agreed. If a team takes him for a 4th or 5th rounder, it’s probably to boost their AHL team’s playoff push.

  57. BONE207 says:

    JDï™: Make yourself a Manhattan today – you’ve earned it.

    That seems like too much work. Straight from the bottle today.

  58. Chris says:

    Is it safe to say that we’re officially ‘sellers?’

  59. BONVIE says:

    Well hopefully the boys have a great Super Bowl party!

  60. Professor Q says:

    Wow. 19 years.

    And the last time this happened it was also against Edmonton?!

  61. JDï™ says:

    Chris: officially ‘sellers?’

    After that 27 hours, I have to ask – of what?

  62. Professor Q says:

    Chris:
    Is it safe to say that we’re officially ‘sellers?’

    Well, we most certainly are not Zellers.

  63. Professor Q says:

    BONE207: That seems like too much work. Straight from the bottle today.

    It was wordplay and an allusion to the Islanders.

  64. Zelepukin says:

    teddyturnbuckle:
    Time to give LB a few games.Nothing to lose and he deserves a look..

    You lose 8-1, you make changes. No excuses.

    LB in.
    Jultz to any taker, anywhere.
    Nurse, Clens, in.
    Fayne to pb.
    Letestu to pb.
    Yaks swap with Ebs?
    Re-think the 3rd line? Swap Purcell and Kassian for a game? Problem is Purcell is all kinds of useless without the two horses.

  65. jp says:

    hags9k,

    Sure, fair enough.

  66. Gret99zky says:

    Chalk that one up as an outlier.

  67. BONE207 says:

    frjohnk: I have it on pretty good authority that Woodguy is going to join us.

    Even he has had enough.

    </blockquote
    I'll bring whiskey & a chainsaw…what could go wrong?

  68. Zelepukin says:

    Lander in for Latestu. He looked slow as shit today.

  69. dadoug12 says:

    zatch:
    How does anyone in this organization look at themselves in a mirror? I couldn’t do it. Honestly.

    guranteed contracts ease the pain

  70. Water Fire says:

    G Money:
    I don’t mean to get too snarky, but if your assessment of these Oilers is based on these last two games, then you are being as foolish as someone who based their assessment of the Oilers one the two games before that.

    Seriously.

    Can’t agree here. There are 10 years of awful hockey that say having 20 no shows a year isn’t what good teams do. Every team and every player has off games, the good ones have a reasonable amount. That isn’t the case with this team.

    This year the team has been in more games, but as they get players back, they have Connor back with avengeance (what more do you need to get motivated), are looking at the last shot at playoffs (which they have to take seriously unlike us), yet they are heading into familiar territory. They are flat out failing. Cam Talbot for one could have cemented himself here, the management has to be wondering about him.

    The Coyotes are winning, have you seen their roster?

    Sure McL is using guys in strange ways, I’d say testing everyone to see if they will rise to the challenge because that is the name of the game in pro sports. No ribbons for participation.

    Maybe they have the flu, but usually that leaks. I’d have to bet another 30% roster turn over.

  71. JDï™ says:

    Professor Q: Well, we most certainly are not Zellers.

    But we do have a Target on our backs.

  72. GCW_69 says:

    Woodguy: Every goddam time I mention Talbot being good on LT’s show things go for shit.

    Every.
    Goddam.
    Time.

    Perhaps, and this is just spitballin’ here, you should stop fucking mentioning it then.

    #Woodguysfault

  73. dadoug12 says:

    Water Fire: I didn’t mean to blame Talbot, I should have separated those points. But Talbot’s inconsistency is very concerning. He shits the bed big time, starting goalies that aren’t injured have to establish consistency, he has never.

    My main point is that the forwards are sinking team D far beyond Schultz being a tweener and Gryba a puck squarer.

    They are not willing to play hard enough every game to win. They roll when they’re on and facing weak resistance, and quit the game if it’s work IMO. I don’t think Connor is in this conversation.

    They need to find some horses to cover the 3 skill guys worth allowing their ups and downs. I think Yak shows up every game, the question is will he work for third line money and play a solid two way game?

    I know I sound negative but I don’t feel negative about the Oilers since Connor, I’m just sick of watching guys play such selfish immature games. Time to grow up if this thing moves ahead. Out of the bar or whatever it is and come to work, invested, every day.

    And exactly how hard is it for a guy who played first pairing minutes to defend a two on one properly? They might score but you at least need to look like you know how to do it!

    Winning players learn to play D, and it’s not that freakin hard. Only if you’re too selfish. It’s a sacrifice, for the team and most importantly for ultimate success.

    To be fair Talbot is not an established no 1 goalie. also forwards like Eberle, and hall just dont care about playing defence, just scoring points in garbage time. Its time to change up the core of this team or else another 5 years of pain

  74. JDï™ says:

    Slump Busters!


    Chris Johnston Verified account
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    The last time the #habs won two straight games was Nov. 25 and 27.

  75. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Zelepukin: I love this whole, Jultz is being shopped storyline.

    Honestly, the best way to showcase Shits, I mean Schultz would have been to put him in the Press Box.
    That way, you could always play the card that the coach just won’t give him a chance and he needs to find a new team that believes in his abilities.
    Because overplaying him in all situations despite his inability to do any good at evens, PK, or PP has shown that it was by far the worst way to showcase Shits…I mean Schultz.

  76. G Money says:

    FYI, while we lament the score, that is pure 100% post facto rationalization.

    The OIler pushback on the DangerFens actually broke the limits on my graphs.

    This game 80% was a result of bad vs good goaltending.

  77. flyfish1168 says:

    Zelepukin:
    Lander in for Latestu. He looked slow as shit today.

    Lander should have played regardless. Anton or any decent player that sat out the 1st halve of a back to should be in on the 2nd game. Fresh legs

  78. BONE207 says:

    Professor Q: It was wordplay and an allusion to the Islanders.

    So was mine regarding work & Oilers

  79. leadfarmer says:

    3rd game in less than 4 days. If you are not replacing your exhausted players with Cledening and Lander then what are you keeping those guys in the lineup for. Should be rotating the lineup to give guys breaks.

  80. Lowetide says:

    G Money:
    FYI, while we lament the score, that is pure 100% post facto rationalization.

    The OIler pushback on the DangerFens actually broke the limits on my graphs.

    This game 80% was a result of bad vs good goaltending.

    Yes. And of course early bad goaltending is the worst bad goaltending because it kills the game. Would also add a lot of the good was happening while the team was going down 0-3.

  81. Revolved says:

    Well that was embarrassing.

    On the bright side, in contrast to last night, the Oilers did with the 5×5 scoring chance battle 6-16, just couldn’t cash.

    I didn’t see anything but the third period, but was Reinhardt full value for the -4?

    I have been wondering whether the rumours about ‘lots of interest’ in Justin Schultz is a joke or just astoundingly bad judgement?

  82. Lowetide says:

    Revolved:
    Well that was embarrassing.

    On the bright side, in contrast to last night, the Oilers did with the 5×5 scoring chance battle 6-16, just couldn’t cash.

    I didn’t see anything but the third period, but was Reinhardt full value for the -4?

    I have been wondering whether the rumours about ‘lots of interest’ in Justin Schultz is a joke or just astoundingly bad judgement?

    I don’t think Reinhart’s -4 was reflective. Jmo.

  83. SwedishPoster says:

    I much prefer Hendricks as a winger btw. In a game like this he’s usually all over the place hitting people, forechecking and going to the net to spark the team. When hej plays center the added chores mellow him down. Tonight he was just another Oiler looking disinterested.

  84. Revolved says:

    G Money:
    FYI, while we lament the score, that is pure 100% post facto rationalization.

    The OIler pushback on the DangerFens actually broke the limits on my graphs.

    This game 80% was a result of bad vs good goaltending.

    This would fit with the scoring chance data. So if we’re done with Nielsen, why not swap him with LB?

  85. jp says:

    Lowetide: It is being reported via media sources, but I tend to agree. I think there is a real chance Schultz will have to regain his career in the minors. Edmonton was not a good choice for the young man.

    Well, the Oilers re-signed him (twice) to contracts north of 3.5M he might not have gotten elsewhere. He’s quite likely a richer man (right now at least) than he would have been otherwise (development issues notwithstanding).

  86. Revolved says:

    Lowetide: I don’t think Reinhart’s -4 was reflective. Jmo.

    It is an opinion we all respect. Thanks for responding.

  87. G Money says:

    Revolved: This would fit with the scoring chance data. So if we’re done with Nielsen, why not swap him with LB?

    I think that may happen.

    Re: Reinhart. Oddly, I think Reinhart had a terrible game, but he was actually in the right place on all four of the goals against. Yet the team didn’t get burned for goals on the mistakes he did make. Very strange.

  88. Oilspill says:

    It looks like this team is cashing in their last few chipsnd getting out of the saloon.
    Time to stepback and regroup, cliche as it is.
    Many of the goals were sheer laziness or slow reaction to the play from the goal tender out.
    SOMEBODY give Gryba boxing lessons. Punches like my sister.

  89. Woodguy says:

    G Money:
    FYI, while we lament the score, that is pure 100% post facto rationalization.

    The OIler pushback on the DangerFens actually broke the limits on my graphs.

    This game 80% was a result of bad vs good goaltending.

    And no one in the right spot to clean up rebounds.

    Flybys were the order of the afternoon.

  90. stush18 says:

    G Money:
    I don’t mean to get too snarky, but if your assessment of these Oilers is based on these last two games, then you are being as foolish as someone who based their assessment of the Oilers one the two games before that.

    Seriously.

    Exactly this. We are a bipolar bunch here.

  91. Centre of attention says:

    Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 5m5 minutes ago
    “We got our butts handed to us in Montreal and we came in here and responded in a very inappropriate way.” Coach McLellan

    Todd is upset. #NewsFlash

  92. Woodguy says:

    Everyone needs to remember that according to Lowe “looks like the master plan is unfolding as we hoped.”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/kevin-lowe-finds-calm-in-new-management-role-221549001.html

    *whew*

    Had me worried for about 10 years there Kev.

    Thanks.

  93. Frank the dog says:

    G Money,

    They spent all of their energy in Montreal. Before the game that is.

  94. JDï™ says:

    Centre of attention: Todd is upset.

    I’ll bet Verdude is too!

  95. Centre of attention says:

    Do you guys think Tkachuk would bump Pouliot to the 3rd line?

    #HereComeTheOilers

  96. Revolved says:

    I wonder if younger players struggle more with afternoon games?

  97. godot10 says:

    Revolved:

    I didn’t see anything but the third period, but was Reinhardt full value for the -4?

    None of the -4 was really his fault.

  98. Centre of attention says:

    Rob Tychkowski ‏@Sun_Tychkowski 26m26 minutes ago
    Oilers in a players only meeting right now.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall.

  99. Frank the dog says:

    Lowetide: It is being reported via media sources, but I tend to agree. I think there is a real chance Schultz will have to regain his career in the minors. Edmonton was not a good choice for the young man.

    Fixes that for you: The young man was not a,good choice for Edmonton…..

  100. JDï™ says:

    Centre of attention: Oilers in a players only meeting right now.

    Schultz too?

  101. G Money says:

    Shot data will be up in a few minutes, but you can really see the TMc D pairing blender from the Danger Table for pairs:

    http://i.imgur.com/mviR3VW.png

  102. SwedishPoster says:

    Schultz was bad but far from our worst D imo. All of Gryba, Reinhart and Fayne had worse games in my book.
    As stated before, the only passing grade goes to Davidson. Yak, Pak and Zack at least didn’t make me want to claw my eyeballs out, though Kassian more so for his extra curriculars than his actual playwhich was lacking efficiency.
    Good or even mediocre goalering might have kept this one closer bur this was an awful display that would have been a loss regardless. The majority of the team had zero focus and were doing nothing but collecting a paycheck. Just a lack of respect for their teammates from pretty much every individual.
    One game is just that but hopefully this is a wake up call. Embarrassment can be a good motivator to never mess up again. If you have the ability to feel shame that is…

  103. blainer says:

    Klima's_Bucket: Honestly, the best way to showcase Shits, I mean Schultz would have been to put him in the Press Box.
    That way, you could always play the card that the coach just won’t give him a chance and he needs to find a new team that believes in his abilities.
    Because overplaying him in all situations despite his inability to do any good at evens, PK, or PP has shown that it was by far the worst way to showcase Shits…I mean Schultz.

    Any team who is looking into acquiring Jultz are both watching his games and reading the Blogs.

    My gord if any interested team is reading this blog they are recommending to stay away from this player to their superiors.

    There is absolutely NO way there is an NHL team trading for this guy. Put him on waivers and be done with it please. Send him to ECHL so as not influence our D in the A. he has done well for himself with the money he has made. He is the D version of Gagner.

  104. SwedishPoster says:

    godot10: None of the -4 was really his fault.

    So the one where he gave away the puck on the offensive blue line was on who?

  105. Lowetide says:

    SwedishPoster: So the one where he gave away the puck on the offensive blue line was on who?

    Shot the puck and it was blocked, no? I mean, we could rip him a new one but the Oilers had a chance to recover if someone among the forwards gave exactly one rat’s ass.

  106. Revolved says:

    G Money:
    Shot data will be up in a few minutes, but you can really see the TMc D pairing blender from the Danger Table for pairs:

    http://i.imgur.com/mviR3VW.png

    Meet Brandon Davidson: Oiler’s uncontested #1 D…

    This data is not complimentary to Reinhardt or Schultz. Reinhardt did look well behind the play when he took the penalty on Tavares in the 3rd. I’m still cheering like hell for the guy. Schultz – not so much.

  107. BONVIE says:

    Its been a long road with this rebuild. Its been almost 10 years of losing and telling ourselves how good we are gonna be. The last rebuild under Sather with Arnott, Weight, Marchant, Maltby, Mcammond, Smyth, Mirinov and Grier was so much easier to go through because that group worked hard every night. I cant say the same about this group, just too many poor efforts, and thats usually what sets the bottom playoff teams apart from the teams like the Oilers is just the consistent work ethic. That old group the losing did not bother me cause the effort was there and we would just come up short, and we were always in the playoff hunt,

    With this team they give us about 30% of the games with solid efforts where the majority of the team is playing at their potential. This just isnt enough you have to give yourself the chance to win every game.

  108. SwedishPoster says:

    Lowetide: Shot the puck and it was blocked, no? I mean, we could rip him a new one but the Oilers had a chance to recover if someone among the forwards gave exactly one rat’s ass.

    Shooting into the first blocker from the blue line is a major mistake. Should never happen. I agree on the lack of backchecking, was shocked when four Isles came into the picture and zero Oilers, but all three forwards were deep, blasting the puck straight into the blocker in that situation is a dreadful hockey play.

  109. Centre of attention says:

    “There is transaction opportunity”

    Todd just let it slip.

    “If we can improve our team with players from bakersfield then we will take that opportunity”

    I wonder who?

    Possible call ups IMO: Pitlick, Khaira, Brossoit, Oesterle, LaLeggia Anyone else? Slepy?

    Possible Waivers/Sent down: Schultz [not kidding] Fayne [not my first choice] Kassian perhaps. I would be surprised but not shocked if they sent down Reinhart especially if they decide to go “full tank” and have a fire sale. Nilsson will go down obviously if Brossoit is called up. Wouldn’t be surprised if we lose him on waivers either.

    At least they are doing something

  110. jp says:

    G Money:
    Shot data will be up in a few minutes, but you can really see the TMc D pairing blender from the Danger Table for pairs:

    http://i.imgur.com/mviR3VW.png

    Interested to see the danger ratings on the Isles 8 goals.

    Edit: I guess the danger ratings from the table kinda confirm what I was thinking.

  111. BONVIE says:

    Centre of attention:
    Rob Tychkowski ‏@Sun_Tychkowski26m26 minutes ago
    Oilers in a players only meeting right now.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall.

    Interesting who would hold that meeting Hendricks? I mean we dont really have that leadership guy that consistently brings his A game.

  112. Mr DeBakey says:

    Centre of attention: “If we can improve our team with players from bakersfield then we will take that opportunity”
    I wonder who?

    None of the guys in Bakersfield, outside of Broissoit, could improve the Oilers.

  113. godot10 says:

    SwedishPoster: So the one where he gave away the puck on the offensive blue line was on who?

    There were no forwards coming back. It was 4 on 2. The forwards not hauling ass back turned a 2 on 2 into a 4 on 2. 2 Islanders beat 3 Oiler forwards back.

  114. godot10 says:

    Revolved:
    This data is not complimentary to Reinhardt or Schultz. Reinhardt did look well behind the play when he took the penalty on Tavares in the 3rd. I’m still cheering like hell for the guy. Schultz – not so much.

    Rookie D gets beat by one of the best forwards in the league, and has to take a penalty. Like that never happened before in the history of the NHL.

  115. godot10 says:

    SwedishPoster: Shooting into the first blocker from the blue line is a major mistake. Should never happen. I agree on the lack of backchecking, was shocked when four Isles came into the picture and zero Oilers, but all three forwards were deep, blasting the puck straight into the blocker in that situation is a dreadful hockey play.

    But the play is completely under control if the forwards haul ass back. It was 2 on 2. The forwards doing nothing made it 4 on 2.

  116. stush18 says:

    The most frustrating part, especially from someone who watches a lot of hockey or has played high levels of hockey, is watching these guys make the same mental mistakes over and over.

    This is a job many of us would kill to have, and may have attempted.

    Who tries to beat a guy 1 on 3? Who spends so much time on the ice that they’re too tired to backcheck? Who doesn’t win the battle on wing? Who doesn’t finish there check, even if it’s a bump? ever made the mental mistakes these guys made, and if I did I found myself on the end of bench.

    That’s why i get frustrated and yell at the tv to trade eberle.

  117. G Money says:

    Shot data.
    https://oilersnerdalert.wordpress.com/2016/02/07/g54-2016-02-07-oilers-at-oilanders-shot-and-distance-data/

    You can see, the shot data is clearly not in synch with the general storyline ripping the Oiler effort.

    This was all about the [early] goaltending, the mistakes that cost goals normally shouldn’t, and we’d write them off as part of the normal flow of the game.

  118. Centre of attention says:

    I honestly think the Oilers are somewhere between the team that beat the Sens 7-2 and the team today.

    They are not as good as they were in the Sens blowout, and they are far from as bad as they were in the blow out today.

    They need to find some consistency and having a solid blue-line will do wonders for this teams confidence.

  119. G Money says:

    Centre of attention,

    Correct.

    And for those who still don’t think Hamonic would help that, I will repost the Isles player dashboard:
    http://i.imgur.com/xfKenvk.png

    My big worry is that after this game, Hamonic takes Edmonton off his list of acceptable teams.

  120. BONVIE says:

    stush18:
    The most frustrating part, especially from someone who watches a lot of hockey or has played high levels of hockey, is watching these guys make the same mental mistakes over and over.

    This is a job many of us would kill to have, and may have attempted.

    Who tries to beat a guy 1 on 3? Who spends so much time on the ice that they’re too tired to backcheck? Who doesn’t win the battle on wing? Who doesn’t finish there check, even if it’s a bump? ever made the mental mistakes these guys made, and if I did I found myself on the end of bench.

    That’s why i get frustrated and yell at the tv to trade eberle.

    This seems to be deeply rooted with this rebuild, not just this group even but since the magic of the spring of 2006.

  121. JDï™ says:

    Mr DeBakey: None of the guys in Bakersfield,outside of Broissoit, could improve the Oilers.

    Has Panic Weber cleared waivers yet?

  122. G Money says:

    I’m going to use the number of people who read the shot data after the game to approximate the %age of Oiler fans who watch the Superbowl.

  123. oliveoilers says:

    G Money:
    Centre of attention,

    Correct.

    And for those who still don’t think Hamonic would help that, I will repost the Isles player dashboard:
    http://i.imgur.com/xfKenvk.png

    My big worry is that after this game, Hamonic takes Edmonton off his list of acceptable teams.

    So by that logic, he now wants to be traded to Detroit.

    I don’t think players think like that. One day, you’re getting destroyed, the next you’re doing the destroying.

  124. BrazilianOil says:

    I miss the Otawa game because i was working so i decided to miss the carnival parties in Salvador de Bahia ( the biggest street party in the world) to watch the good guys … I’m stupid, i know.

    As much as i belive in 3 scoring lines unicorns, i’m convinced that 2 top 4D are more necessary. So if this takes the lotery pick and Eberle, i’m on board.

  125. stush18 says:

    oliveoilers:

    One day, you’re getting destroyed, the next you’re doing the destroying.

    That’s what she said

  126. G Money says:

    oliveoilers: So by that logic, he now wants to be traded to Detroit.

    I don’t think players think like that.One day, you’re getting destroyed, the next you’re doing the destroying.

    I think players want to go where they can win (within the context of family concerns, per Hamonic).

    The idea behind Edmonton not necessarily being a place where careers go to die anymore was, I believe, an actual thing this year … and much of it is McDavid based. What wasn’t McDavid-based was likely McLellan/Chia based. I think that’s one reason why we got Sekera.

    To lay that stinker with TMc coaching and McDavid in the lineup might make Hamonic reconsider that idea.

    Not sure how big a concern it is, but I do think it’s a concern.

  127. G Money says:

    Wow, what a spectacularly horrible call that is.

    There is no universe I can think of where that isn’t a catch.

    He has control of it before hitting the ground. And even though there is a slight bobble, he retains control and it never touches the ground, which means it is never a dead ball.

    Guess the CFL/NHL doesn’t have any sort of monopoly on terrible/corrupt refereeing. Not that I ever thought that.

  128. Zelepukin says:

    Well if any D coming here is partly being sold on Jultz not being here, then you’d expect that to be big selling point. Look, we know you see our D core and think yeesh, do I really want to be apart of that? But keep in mind you’ll be replacing a weak forward who has been playing defense for the first time, 242 times.

  129. G Money says:

    It’s funny, I *usually* watch the Superbowl, and in theory I’m cheering for the Bronchitis’ this year (having spent much time in Denver working for a Denver-HQ company – which was situated just across the Centennial Airport from the Bronco practice facility) … but I’m bored senseless and hard pressed not to turn the damn thing off. ZZZZZZZZZ.

  130. bendelson says:

    G Money,

    I saw that ‘catch’ a little differently…
    The nose of the football hit the ground and may have caused the slight ‘bobble’.
    A judgement call that really could have gone either way but there was contact with the ground.

  131. RJ2016 says:

    I think Oiler fans just need to be patient. Wait until Connor comes back and they can start to see what they have.

  132. Chachi says:

    RJ2016:
    I think Oiler fans just need to be patient. Wait until Connor comes back and they can start to see what they have.

    As trolling efforts go this was super weak. Drink a little more and try again.

  133. JDï™ says:

    G Money: It’s funny, I *usually* watch the Superbowl

    Last time I watched the super bowel, was before I realized that I didn’t need an excuse to drink.

    And in about 15 minutes, I have in-laws coming over, which isn’t an excuse – it’s a reason.

    Go Broncos?

  134. Water Fire says:

    G Money: Water

    G I think it’s a little more than bad luck when you get curb stomped 15-3 in two games. There are some players WAY too comfortable not meeting their assignments. That is absolutely not acceptable on winning teams.

    There are only two players on the Oilers with enough attack to get a pass on two way play. And htey typically care more than the others anyway.

  135. Hope is a good thing says:

    OF17,

    Sorry, I switched over to the golf. Only the first point was directed at Pou. The others were just general comments about most of the forwards. As a former player and coach, I can only imagine the coaching staff’s frustration. In the old days, if you didn’t listen and change, you got splinters – or a view from above…

  136. Water Fire says:

    G Money:
    Centre of attention,

    Correct.

    And for those who still don’t think Hamonic would help that, I will repost the Isles player dashboard:
    http://i.imgur.com/xfKenvk.png

    My big worry is that after this game, Hamonic takes Edmonton off his list of acceptable teams.

    Or he’s like ‘I could play 35 minutes every game with that for TOI competition’.

  137. JDï™ says:

    Water Fire: Or he’s like ‘I could play 35 minutes every game with that for TOI competition’.

    Only if MacT grants him ‘Norris Potential Status’.

  138. Kmart99 says:

    What a disaster that was. At least on the scoresheet.

    My eye said that the Oil gave the game away during the second half of the first and the first half of the second. But they were generally in control of the game outside of that 20 MIN span.

    Remember when Gagner got 8pts? Yeah, and that CHI team was pretty good. So let’s just chalk this game up as one of those games they were always going to lose.

  139. sliderule says:

    The first goal was a whiff.
    The second and third goals were good shots but you have to question positioning.
    Talbot had two of the three I saw come on screens were the isles jammed the crease.
    I had to leave at that point for a way better minor hockey game but Talbot wasn’t at fault at that point.
    I have watched this team from day one and unlike some of you I have no idea what they should do.

  140. Frank the dog says:

    I honestly thought this kind of game was behind this team. I would think even TMac is wondering if he made the correct decision coming here. Even with CMD and that’s really saying something.

  141. MrEd says:

    This the Nadir for Justin Shultz as an OIler. The fans are done with him. The organization got called on It’s hand. It’s time.

    I’d try Arizona for Mayo. Good golfing both in Phoenix (NHL) and Portland (AHL). Maybe it’s what #19 needs to play hockey- the ability to step away from it and do something he loves.

    No disrespect intended.

  142. MrEd says:

    Would it be shrewd to give Arizona the option of 1 of 2 trades?
    The second one being Yak for Samuelsson?

  143. MrEd says:

    Make him a Condor otherwise. He won’t get claimed.

  144. Alpine says:

    Frank the dog:
    I honestly thought this kind of game was behind this team. I would think even TMac is wondering if he made the correct decision coming here. Even with CMD and that’s really saying something.

    I would think Todd knew hid 3rd and hopefully 2nd years would be better than the first. By all means, it sounds like Chia’s gonna get another D for him even if it costs Eberle.

  145. LostBoy says:

    Maybe I’m just looking for something to kick. But with the merger of the beat reporter staff and the firing of Joanne Ireland, there’s almost no point clicking on the Journal game stories. Rob Tychkowski is funny, now and then. But I’ve always marveled at the number of flat out mistakes he makes. Couple of faceplants, like clockwork, in every story. Been like that for years.

    From today’s:

    http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/edmonton-oilers-get-day-off-after-big-loss

    “Only five Islanders skaters didn’t get points against Edmonton: Cal Clutterbuck, Travis Hamonic, Matt Martin, Brian Strait and Casey Cizikas.”

    Clutterbuck had a goal and an assist. Cizikas had an assist.

    The corporate overlords looked at a talent pool that includes Tychkowski and Van Diest and decided Ireland was the one to cull?

    End times, man.

  146. MrEd says:

    Alpine,

    Sounds crazy but at this point I wouldn’t be all that surprised to see RNH, Ebs, Yak, and Shultz gone by next season.
    Nevermind the glut of LHD we have.

    A truly horrific weekend for everyone except maybe Chia. The man is stacked with cards even after the aforementioned players get cashed. Give me some 9’s and 10″s for the faces.

  147. Snowman says:

    MrEd,

    Im betting the last few games of Letestu have cemented pretty solidly the need for Nuge and legitimate two way players. Be shocked if Nuge is gone.

  148. Pouzar says:

    Did we win?

  149. MrEd says:

    Poo-CMD-xxx
    Hall-Dry-Kassian
    xxx-xxx-xxx
    Hend-Letestu-Pak

    Sek-xxx
    Klef-xxx
    Davidson-Gryba.

    Talbot
    xxx

  150. Frank the dog says:

    Shultz has failed to deliver full stop. We’ve always believed that Yak would turn the corner and he appeard to be doing that when he played with CMD, but he still seems top be more potential than realized skill. Unlike Schultz Yak gets 10 points for effort but I’d let Yak go long before Eberle or Nuge, both have shown what they can do and will bounce back, and who can argue that Schultz needs to “brush up his game” in Bakersfield until his contract expires.
    Neither Chia nor TMac will allow this nonsense to continue and I hope there are more than a few players on this team that feel the same way.

  151. AsiaOil says:

    We don’t need more kids even if they are talented. No we need grizzled vets who know how to win and how to go to work every day. Tired of these childish holiday trips. Out of the old core only Taylor Hall has shown that he possesses the necessary fire. RNH I keep because he’s a center until the inevitable cap forced trade occurs – but he’s clearly not a guy who “drives the bus. Ebs and Yak can both be dealt as I have Drai on top line RW and Kass on 3rd. Give me a guy like Craig Smith for the #2 RW slot. I honest also want a guy like Andrew Ladd as a vet forward who knows how to win – too bad he’s not a RW or it’s a no brainer. As for the defense – hole are obvious – just fire Shultz into the sun ASAP. Tired of watching him pretend to be a pro hockey player. No more kids, we need vet who are winner to show the kids that remain how it’s done. A few guys have played their way off this team – seems obvious to me who they are.

  152. JDï™ says:

    Pouzar:
    Did we win?

    I absent-mindedly put the magnum of red on the bookshelf after I poured a glass during dinner.

    I won.

  153. Pouzar says:

    Griffin Reinhart ‏@GriffinReinhart 2h2 hours ago
    Congrats Peyton. Tom you have it next year. #pats

    Like I needed another reason to dislike him.

    I keed…..I keed!!!!!!

  154. JDï™ says:

    Falk you, Pouzar!

  155. MrEd says:

    Snowman,

    I’d be shocked too. Wipe out my 3C xxx (by teaching RNH to be + on the dot) and there is less to consider. Just get it done.
    Might require getting a strong RHC to play on his wing though.

    xxx-CMD-Purcy
    Hall-Dry-Kassian
    Pou-RNH-xxx
    Hend-Letestu-Pak
    Sek-xxx
    Klef-xxx
    Davidson-Gryba.
    Talbot
    xxx

  156. MrEd says:

    I can’t get to a number over term for Purcy unless it’s on the cheap. Otherwise it’s 2×4$.

    Started thinking about Ladd tonight. 4,5,6,7,8 x5.5$?

  157. Gret99zky says:

    Tied for DFL.

    Again.

    Sigh.

  158. Genjutsu says:

    It’s become clear to me that, or at least in my opinion, the only real issue with the team this season is health and RD.

    They need to add two RHS D. Hammonic alone is not enough.

    They have to get rid of Justin. They have to get rid of either Fayne or Gryba.

    Personally I would like to see them all gone.

  159. Professor Q says:

    MrEd:
    I can’t get to a number over term for Purcy unless it’s on the cheap.Otherwise it’s 2×4$.

    Started thinking about Ladd tonight.4,5,6,7,8 x5.5$?

    You wouldn’t be able to sign him for 8 years…at least from what I know.

  160. SwedishPoster says:

    godot10: But the play is completely under control if the forwards haul ass back.It was 2 on 2.The forwards doing nothing made it 4 on 2.

    Late answer, it was bedtime in Stockholm. My point wasn’t that the forwards didn’t have a big part in the goal. It was the comment on Reinhart not holding blame on any of the GAs and to me that’s an obvious goal where Reinhart was at fault. Bad backchecking or not that’s a bad play on the blue line that leads to a goal. If the forwards do a proper job they might bail him out, but that doesn’t make it less of a mistake.

  161. GCW_69 says:

    Oilers now on pace for just under 71 points. Every year I try to think about how bad this collection of talent could realistically be and they always under shoot that number with room to spare.

    Amazing.

  162. frjohnk says:

    Gret99zky:
    Tied for DFL.

    Again.

    Sigh.

    Home sweet home.

    But on the bright side with McDavid, this will be the best
    ELPH

  163. jake70 says:

    What an ugly weekend of hockey. Was at the Montreal game with younger brother, a huge habs fan. He was quite nervous the Oilers were going to run up the score on them. Boy did he have a good chuckle when all said and done. Although his biggest chuckle was at my Shulttz to the BC Beer league comment. I am not sure the Oil made a pass in that game. This team is so confusing to figure out some times.

  164. Ryan says:

    G Money:
    Shot data.
    https://oilersnerdalert.wordpress.com/2016/02/07/g54-2016-02-07-oilers-at-oilanders-shot-and-distance-data/

    You can see, the shot data is clearly not in synch with the general storyline ripping the Oiler effort.

    This was all about the [early] goaltending, the mistakes that cost goals normally shouldn’t, and we’d write them off as part of the normal flow of the game.

    Oilers recall Laurent Broissoit and place Anders Nilsson on waivers?

  165. Water Fire says:

    LostBoy:
    Maybe I’m just looking for something to kick.But with the merger of the beat reporter staff and the firing of Joanne Ireland, there’s almost no point clicking on the Journal game stories.Rob Tychkowski is funny, now and then.But I’ve always marveled at the number of flat out mistakes he makes.Couple of faceplants, like clockwork, in every story.Been like that for years.

    From today’s:

    http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/edmonton-oilers-get-day-off-after-big-loss

    “Only five Islanders skaters didn’t get points against Edmonton: Cal Clutterbuck, Travis Hamonic, Matt Martin, Brian Strait and Casey Cizikas.”

    Clutterbuck had a goal and an assist.Cizikas had an assist.

    The corporate overlords looked at a talent pool that includes Tychkowski and Van Diest and decided Ireland was the one to cull?

    End times, man.

    Ireland is a writer first I think, her pieces had too much skill in them. Subtlety can be lost in an increasingly desperate place.

  166. PhrankLee says:

    After that game I am hoping the calls for “RNH for Hamonic” are squelched.

    8-1 and didn’t register a shot, let alone a point.

    He fits as a 3 or 4 guy but is not the 1-2D that is clearly needed desperately.

    The team has made itself look desperate and it weakens their GM’s leverage in negotiation.

    Maybe we can offload some contracts at the deadline but I see him having to stand pat out of necessity till the summer. Value would be better in the summer.

    It was at a time like this when a guy LT hated, called Smid, said something like “This is bad. Guys get traded when things go like this…”

    Everyone is keeping their traps shut.

  167. jp says:

    Ryan: Oilers recall Laurent Broissoit and place Anders Nilsson on waivers?

    There’s a decent chance we don’t see Nilsson again.

    His last quality start (.900 SVP) was Dec. 6th. Yikes!

  168. hunter1909 says:

    PhrankLee: It was at a time like this when a guy LT hated, called Smid, said something like “This is bad. Guys get traded when things go like this…”

    Saw Smid in a Calgary uniform this weekend. You can tell he really hates wearing it.

    One of my all time fave Oilers. If they get Smid back I’d tolerate 1.2 breakaways directly against him per game.

  169. hunter1909 says:

    Smid for Justin Schultz.

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