OSCAR CLOSE, BROSSOIT TO THE SHOW AND FREE CHRISTIAN

A small flurry of news items since we last spoke, one of them could have an enormous impact on the rest of the season. One thing about Peter Chiarelli’s Oilers? Stories appear to come out of the blue, arriving like clockwork after bad or multiple losses:

The upcoming homestand is awhile: tomorrow Toronto, Jets on the weekend, Ducks, Wild and Avalanche next week, and the Phaneufs on February 23. That gets Klefbom into the final 20 games or so and means he would be in uniform for over 50 games this year. It will be interesting to see if he can get back in time to help climb out of the basement—the Oilers should be pushing through year end in order to avoid yet another ridiculous finish.

Klefbom’s addition gives Edmonton (by my estimate) four solid defenders: Andrej Sekera, Mark Fayne, Brandon Davidson and Klefbom. Major boost if he can make it back in time for the Senators game (or earlier). It is a big damn deal.

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BROSSOIT RECALLED

With Anders Nilsson struggling (26gp, 3.14 .901) at the NHL level, Edmonton switched out the Swede with AHL starter Laurent Brossoit. One of the more positive moves by Craig MacTavish as GM, Brossoit (26gp, 2.70 .921) is a potential solution for the future in net. I have no idea if he will be a starter at any time during his NHL career, but it does look like he will have one. He has played one NHL game (1gp, 2.00 .961) and damned near beat Todd McLellan and the San Jose Sharks last year.

Screw that noise, the Oilers should claim him. Seriously. Why not? Run Nurse—Ehrhoff until the deadline and even when Klefbom returns I say run that pairing and go Sekera—Fayne and Klefbom—Davidson in front of them. I know it means 50 contracts, I know the kids are getting blocked, but this is a useful player and there is zero reason to refrain here. If he won’t show up? Fine. Claim him anyway. He could help this team and that is all that matters. Seriously. Claim the man.

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120 Responses to "OSCAR CLOSE, BROSSOIT TO THE SHOW AND FREE CHRISTIAN"

  1. vinotintazo says:

    If the oilers claimed Clendening… where does that put them in the order of claiming erhoff.?

  2. Truth says:

    How does the waiver system work? I know that at the start of the season the previous season’s standings are reverse order of priority on claims. Now that the Oilers claimed Clendening do they go to the bottom of the list? If so, and if I am right in saying they were the last to make a claim, then I would not submit the claim and throw them a dead contract for Ehrhoff.

    After typing that I now feel that this Ehrhoff move is related to the Schultz scratch and trade tidbit. Deal went south?

  3. Zelepukin says:

    Can we in the least put Clens on waivers, if we do pick up Ehrhoff?

  4. Barcs says:

    OT, but I’ve been pondering what the difference in value is between Matthews and OEL (I know, I know), particularly to Arizona, Matthews’ home town. Can anyone smarter than me help me out? I think the greater value is OEL, but by how much? GR? 32nd OV? Thanks.

  5. Centre of attention says:

    I agree with LT.

    Ehrhoff could help. He shoots left but plays the right side naturally.

    That being said, he won’t be claimed by the Oilers. 0% chance he is claimed.

    Peter wants/needs the contract flexibility moving towards the deadline. And for that reason alone the Oilers won’t claim him, whether they believe he can help or not.

  6. Zelepukin says:

    It’s amazing how clockwork Kingsway is in following up horrible losses with a positive press release. LB call-up was going to happen at some point this month or next anyways, but the Klef thing feels like a stretch given that there has been zero reports on him even skating???

  7. frjohnk says:

    Barcs:
    OT, but I’ve been pondering what the difference in value is between Matthews and OEL (I know, I know), particularly to Arizona, Matthews’ home town. Can anyone smarter than me help me out? I think the greater value is OEL, but by how much? GR? 32nd OV? Thanks.

    Player wise for next few years OEL> Matthews.

    But its a cap world and length of contract factors in player value.

    Matthews 3 years ELC and 7 years control of him is > OEL has 3 years left on his contract, then he becomes UFA

  8. Zelepukin says:

    With regards to 1OV, my money is on us trading down. How far down will be determined by what D the bottom 5 teams have to offer. Would the leafs part ways with Rielly and give up 3rd or 4th overall so they can sign Stamkos and pair him with Matthews?

  9. frjohnk says:

    If this was a league of 5/6/7 D men, we could pick up Erhoff and be the best team out there.

  10. Barcs says:

    frjohnk: Player wise for next few years OEL> Matthews.

    But its a cap world and length of contract factors in playervalue.

    Matthews 3 years ELC and 7 years control of him is > OEL has 3 years left on his contract, then he becomes UFA

    Thanks!

  11. Pouzar says:

    That’s the inside stuff right there.

    Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 2h2 hours ago
    Dreger: Cheveldayoff, Chiarelli will “continue to knock on those doors until the buzzer sounds Feb. 29” on Hamonic. #NHLJets #Oilers #Isles

  12. Professor Q says:

    Barcs:
    OT, but I’ve been pondering what the difference in value is between Matthews and OEL (I know, I know), particularly to Arizona, Matthews’ home town. Can anyone smarter than me help me out? I think the greater value is OEL, but by how much? GR? 32nd OV? Thanks.

    I wonder if Arizona would take the consolation prize in their other hometown prospect in Tkatchuk…

  13. Centre of attention says:

    Pouzar,

    If they lose Ladd do you think a three-way deal in the summer makes sense? Scoring F to Winnipeg from Edmonton, Trouba to Isles and Hamonic to Edmonton?

  14. Centre of attention says:

    Good reading of the tea leaves by McKenzie: http://www.tsn.ca/reading-the-trade-market-tea-leaves-1.436138

  15. Centre of attention says:

    Very interesting bit from McKenzies article, looks like LT nailed his prediction that the Oilers would want to shop for un-signed graduating Juniors:

    “Finally, this isn’t trade related news, but you may recall we talked earlier this season about the Swift Current Bronco captain and unrestricted free agent overage forward Jon Martin being courted by multiple NHL teams.
    A late bloomer of sorts, the 6-foot-2, 218-pound Martin now has 34 goals and 59 points in 50 WHL games this season after scoring only 32 goals in the previous four seasons in Kootenay.
    Martin is on the verge of making a decision on where he’ll eventually sign his NHL entry-level contract. Edmonton, Arizona and San Jose were believed to be the teams that showed significant interest. While nothing is likely to be made official until March, the expectation is Martin is most likely to be a Shark when all is said and done.”

  16. Woodguy says:

    Pouzar:
    That’s the inside stuff right there.

    Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey2h2 hours ago
    Dreger: Cheveldayoff, Chiarelli will “continue to knock on those doors until the buzzer sounds Feb. 29” on Hamonic. #NHLJets #Oilers #Isles

    Its obvious how much Dreger and the other “insiders” are plugged in due to all the smoke around the OTT-TOR deal before it happened……….hehe

    That’s why I like The McKenzie.

    He knows stuff, but only hints at it.

    Like Stamkos to Edmonton.

  17. Stelio Kontos says:

    Hall CMD/Drai/RNH Eberle 1st line calibre
    Pouliot 2nd line calibre
    Kassian/Purcell/Yak 3rd line calibre
    Letestu Hendricks 4th line calibre

    That is how I see the ability of the forward group. I want to put yak between 2nd and 3rd and pakarinen between 4th and ahl. The problem is bottom of the roster, and it will likely get worse as hendricks is getting old. We need some of these guys to piss a drop. They are a dime a dozen in the dying days of ufa

    XXX 1D calibre
    Klef 2D calibre
    Sekera (close to 2D, might be a little harsh here) 3D calibre
    XXX 4D
    Davidson Fayne 5D
    Nurse 6D calibre
    Gryba, clendening, 7D calibre

    That is what I see right now. Guys are playing above their head, and some are doing it half decent, but the prospects have to start to fill in the gaps next season, plus an acquisition or two. This group is much further away than has been suggested here in recent days. In the offensive zone it is like 3on5 unless sekera or klef are on the ice. Players swarm the forwards (usually connor or hall), leaving the d open, but when they puck is played back to them, they just ring it around the boards again. That is not possession. There should be way more shots from the blue line with the space they have. Unless we can run something like this we aren’t getting much better.

    Klef hamonic
    Sekera Goligoski
    Davidson Fayne
    Nurse Reinhart

    1G Talbot probably
    2G none right now.
    3G Brossoit
    We need another guy. They will be available this summer. I liked Neuvirth last year, but it is unlikely to work out that well. Take a guy down on his luck, and make a bet. Hell take two (figuratively. 2 is probably too many). Make brossoit force his way into the lineup. Bernier might be worth a shot. Kuemper is another guy I kinda like.

  18. Professor Q says:

    Woodguy: Its obvious how much Dreger and the other “insiders” are plugged in due to all the smoke around the OTT-TOR deal before it happened……….hehe

    That’s why I like The McKenzie.

    He knows stuff, but only hints at it.

    Like Stamkos to Edmonton.

    I’m assuming that RNH and maybe even Eberle are gone if Stamkos does indeed decide to sign with Edmonton?

  19. Woodguy says:

    Professor Q: I’m assuming that RNH and maybe even Eberle are gone if Stamkos does indeed decide to sign with Edmonton?

    If it actually happens then at least one right away and a second in time for McDavid’s 2nd contract.

  20. rickithebear says:

    The thing with depth is more skill to produce;
    Th return of Klefbom pushes everyone down.
    The return of RNH pushes Mcdavid and Draisatl down.

    Bowman believes in Pairs.

    Pouliot-RNH- XXX 10M for 3 years
    Hall-Draisatl- XXX 9.4M for 1 YR then a jump to 12M for another 3 yr
    XXX-Mcdavid- Eberle 7.775m next 2 years

    Klefbom – Fayne 7.79m for 2 years
    Sekera – Davidson 5.5+ 1.75 for 3 yrs

    Talbot 4.167M for 3 years.

    our
    top 6 Forwards
    top 4 D
    #1 goalie for 48.98 M for 16-17, 17-18

    When have we had this Line up?

  21. Centre of attention says:

    Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 1m1 minute ago
    Dreger: Many believe Hamonic trade could drag into summer. I believe #NHLJets will be back into that mix. #Oilers, I’m sure, back into mix.

    We wait.

  22. The Trade Guy says:

    Professor Q: I’m assuming that RNH and maybe even Eberle are gone if Stamkos does indeed decide to sign with Edmonton?

    Yak and Ebs to be sure. Stamkos would shotgun Connor.

    Benoit would probably be gone too.

    I think PC and Todd really like RNH and he’s cost certain and could play a power vs power center for a contender.

  23. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Woodguy,

    what did McKenzie say?

  24. Woodguy says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Woodguy,

    what did McKenzie say?

    Listed the Oilers among 7 likely destinations for Stamkos a month or so ago.

    I won’t stop having fun with it until he signs somewhere.

  25. stevezie says:

    Erhoff is on a one year deal and so cheap this really seems like a no-risk move to me.

    I’ve read mized reports of his play in LA, but ultimately he is getting cut so he clearly hasn’t been great. But still, almost no risk. Surely Clendenning isn’t so good he renders Christian Erhoff pointless.

  26. G Money says:

    I’ve heard a few suggest that Ehrhoff on third pairing providing an experienced mentor for Nurse might be a good thing.

    Indeed, that might be. If the performance is there. Ehrhoff’s numbers this year are disturbingly similar to Justin Schultz’s.

    This is a problem.

    Oiler fans should know this better than most.

    Experience without the ability to perform at a high level any longer = Andrew Ference.

  27. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Woodguy,

    wanting to play with McDavid not out of the realm of possibility. Stamkos said 97 was better than him in the summer/spring last year

  28. judgedrude says:

    Would Tampa take Eberle for Stamkos….in a sign and trade?

  29. rickithebear says:

    Jones purge of the Riders left many pissed.
    I said wait and See.
    Restructured Durant.
    Identified his core to retain.
    Resigned George and Bagg
    Retained Best and Labatte Key CDN interior OL
    traded for King RT
    Traded for Mo Price WR
    Signed DE S. Lemon high sack rate.

    Free agency:
    The Eskimos had one of the toughest days out there, losing key players like receivers Kenny Stafford and Shamawd Chambers and offensive lineman Andrew Jones while not particularly adding anyone of note. They have other big free agents out there, too, including linebacker J.C. Sherritt, defensive back Aaron Grymes, and running back Kendial Lawrence. If they can bring some of those guys back and maybe pick up a couple of other players here and there, free agency could get more positive for them.

    then i checked Jones’s work:
    Feb 9:
    Newman WPG special teams star
    A. Jones Esks OL
    Kelley 6’6″ 30 WR NFL
    J Chiles TOR WR
    S Chambers ESKS SB

    Feb 10:
    D. Newmann WPG DB
    Curtis Steele TOR RB
    O. Foster ESKS DB
    K. Lawrence ESKS
    G. Jones LB TOR
    J. Capiciotti DE OTT
    E. Gainey DB HAM
    Traded for Campbell LT TOR

    That Stamps Personal Guy jones grabbed is real good!

  30. Professor Q says:

    G Money,

    Or allowing Nurse to play in the AHL.

  31. Fog of Warts says:

    Bruce!

    Borssoit had one cup of coffee last year & was forced to chug a gallon of espresso as his mates left him for dead among Sharks.

    Lovely sentence, but—please—he’s not even here yet and you’ve already got him halfway to beet soup.

  32. Snowman says:

    Woodguy: Listed the Oilers among 7 likely destinations for Stamkos a month or so ago.

    I won’t stop having fun with it until he retires after winning 9 Stanley Cups as an Oiler.

    FTFY

  33. The Trade Guy says:

    rickithebear:
    Jones purge of the Riders left many pissed.
    I said wait and See.
    Restructured Durant.
    Identified his core to retain.
    Resigned George and Bagg
    Retained Best and Labatte Key CDN interior OL
    traded for King RT
    Traded for Mo Price WR
    Signed DE S. Lemon high sack rate.

    Free agency:
    The Eskimos had one of the toughest days out there, losing key players like receivers Kenny Stafford and Shamawd Chambers and offensive lineman Andrew Jones while not particularly adding anyone of note. They have other big free agents out there, too, including linebacker J.C. Sherritt, defensive back Aaron Grymes, and running back Kendial Lawrence. If they can bring some of those guys back and maybe pick up a couple of other players here and there, free agency could get more positive for them.

    then i checked Jones’s work:
    Feb 9:
    Newman WPG special teams star
    A. Jones Esks OL
    Kelley 6’6″ 30 WR NFL
    J Chiles TOR WR
    S Chambers ESKS SB

    Feb 10:
    D. Newmann WPG DB
    Curtis Steele TOR RB
    O. Foster ESKS DB
    K. Lawrence ESKS
    G. Jones LB TOR
    J. Capiciotti DE OTT
    E. Gainey DB HAM
    Traded for Campbell LT TOR

    That Stamps Personal Guy jones grabbed is real good!

    Agreed Riders are the best.

  34. G Money says:

    Professor Q,

    That only works if you can legitimately say that Ehrhoff is playing better than Nurse.

    Which it doesn’t appear that he is, though the context between LA and EDM is so utterly different, it makes comparisons difficult.

    If you just want to play a veteran regardless of performance and send Nurse down for more seasoning (not a bad idea in a lost season), why not just bring Double Agent back?

  35. The Trade Guy says:

    Now tell me what Detroit Lions are going to do with their cap space. My wife is out. I’m all alone.

  36. Pouzar says:

    Centre of attention:
    Pouzar,

    If they lose Ladd do you think a three-way deal in the summer makes sense? Scoring F to Winnipeg from Edmonton, Trouba to Isles and Hamonic to Edmonton?

    Makes sense from a hockey perspective but I am not sure what Winnipeg’s intentions are. They are thin at forward but is that what they want?

  37. G Money says:

    Sigh.

    Did the #Oilers look at the historical stats for Letestu or Korpikoski before acquiring them? by @sunilagni https://t.co/uihcwoHvQP— Copper & Blue (@CopperandBlue) February 11, 2016

  38. LadiesloveSmid says:

    G Money,

    Letestu played with Boll/Tropp last year and Korpikoski this year. I like him just fine

  39. Woodguy says:

    Pouzar: Makes sense from a hockey perspective but I am not sure what Winnipeg’s intentions are. They are thin at forward but is that what they want?

    Snow has a history of being a hard ass on RFA contracts, especially when the players doesn’t have arb rights.

    Trouba’s reported ask is 6.5MM on a long term contract and he’s no where near that player today.

    I’m not sure Snow would want him unless he was signed to a bridge deal.

  40. Doug McLachlan says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Woodguy,

    wanting to play with McDavid not out of the realm of possibility. Stamkos said 97 was better than him in the summer/spring last year

    If twisted by Leaf fans this thinking is a prelude to the Leafs getting Stamkos to be followed by McDavid when he demands a trade out of Oil Country.

  41. frjohnk says:

    Pouzar: Makes sense from a hockey perspective but I am not sure what Winnipeg’s intentions are. They are thin at forward but is that what they want?

    The Jets are set at right wing and right defense.

    If Ladd is traded for picks and they are willing to trade Trouba

    The Jets would look for

    a number 1 center
    A number 1 LW
    A top 4 LHD.

    I don’t think Eberle is a fit with the Jets.

    They don’t need prospects

    So in order for a 3 way trade to work with these 3 teams, I think the pieces the Jets would want are Klefbom or RNH.

  42. Doug McLachlan says:

    G Money,

    Chia should call the Rangers and see what a poach and flip nets us, no?

  43. G Money says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    Oh, I recognize that. I looked at his teammates and gave Letestu a little bit of a pass for last year. And this year, Korpikoski really is a black hole.

    The problem is the trend, which is not good, and which started when Testtube was with Comeau and McKenzie.

    And his time here shows (I think so, you may disagree) that he can’t really play higher up the lineup than 4th line.

    Which makes that $5.4M contract a bit of a problem. The main point being it was an avoidable problem.

    (And of course, there are no such caveats with Korpikoski, who was simply a bad choice in every way)

  44. G Money says:

    Doug McLachlan,

    Not sure what you mean?

  45. Doug McLachlan says:

    Woodguy,

    Given Snow’s history with RFAs, what’s Trouba going to do, sit?

  46. Doug McLachlan says:

    G Money,

    Call the Rangers and see if they are interested in Ehrhoff. If they are and Chia likes the return you pluck him off waivers and the. Trade him to the Rangers. Found money.

  47. jzed says:

    Heard Lowetide belittle the buds(as he should) on his radio show, but cringed when I realized this was a nail in tonight’s Oiler coffin. You know, beating a team they should beat….

  48. Johnny skid says:

    Woodguy: Trouba’s reported ask is 6.5MM on a long term contract and he’s no where near that player today.

    would you not be all in if that deal was offered to the oilers?

  49. Woodguy says:

    Doug McLachlan:
    Woodguy,

    Given Snow’s history with RFAs, what’s Trouba going to do, sit?

    If he becomes an Islander before he signs his next contract he might.

    That’s why I think Snow would be very, very cautious on him.

  50. stevezie says:

    G Money,

    Definitely a risk. There is a reason LA is cutting him.

    I won’t be furious if the Oilers don’t take him because I assume there will be a reason. But they have to take a long, hard look, right? And if it looks even close, try him, right?

  51. Woodguy says:

    Johnny skid: would you not be all in if that deal was offered to the oilers?

    $6.5 for Trouba?

    Nope.

    That’s just his ask though.

    Hamilton was a much more established player and he signed for $5.75 over 6 years.

    Hamilton’s career pt/gm is 0.46, Trouba is .334

    If he’d do $5MM x 6 I’d do it.

    I’d trade Nurse for that seeing as Sekera-Klefbom-Davidson could lock down the left side nicely for the next 5 years.

  52. admiralmark says:

    I’m no fancy stats guy but if Erhoff on the LA Kings is putting up the same #’s Schultz is on the Oilers I wouldn’t consider that an up arrow at all.

  53. G Money says:

    stevezie,

    Tru dat.

    Doug McLachlan,

    Gotcha. Might be a bit risky given the possibilities.

    I wouldn’t put it over Sather to say, “Yeah, sure, go ahead and make the claim and I’ll give you a pick for it” and then renege and say “Oops, so much for that roster spot. That’s what you get for trying to screw me!”

  54. jzed says:

    Ehroff would mentor the young Oil. Tell them to keep tight gaps, break the cycle with hard play, box out at the blue paint with ferocity, move the biscuit quickly on the tape, jump up when it’s appropriate…..

    Don’t the coaches tell them this stuff , like every freaking day?

  55. jp says:

    frjohnk: Player wise for next few years OEL> Matthews.

    But its a cap world and length of contract factors in playervalue.

    Matthews 3 years ELC and 7 years control of him is > OEL has 3 years left on his contract, then he becomes UFA

    I wonder how forward thinking GMs are on these sort of things though. Owners surely have an eye on the future, but I’d think many GMs (certainly those who don’t have 100% job security) are focused more on the 1, 2, 3 years ahead than 5, 6 or 7. The longer term is obviously a consideration, but there’s likely a strong bias towards the short term.

  56. Centre of attention says:

    Woodguy: $6.5 for Trouba?

    I’d trade Nurse for that seeing as Sekera-Klefbom-Davidson could lock down the left side nicely for the next 5 years.

    Me and Rex were talking at length about this the other night. Davidson appears to be Bona-fide. He’s done his time in the Minors and is miles ahead of where Nurse is. Davidson is also not shy about being physical, so its not like we are losing that element when moving Nurse.

    Davidson may also be cheaper long-term than Nurse. [No draft pedigree, Team gave him support with his cancer scare]

    Does Davidson emerging make Nurse expendable for that true #1 Defenseman? Nurse+____ could land you a helluva defenseman.

    Not an easy decision and Chiarelli would need to cover all his bases but I could live with it if done perfect.

    The problem is those kinds of trades are hard to make and never end up being perfect.

  57. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Centre of attention,

    trade Nurse for Trouba and run Davidson-Trouba?

    Nurse-Buff would be one annoying pair to match up with down the road, I would have a really hard time letting Darnell go

  58. Professor Q says:

    Centre of attention: Me and Rex were talking at length about this the other night. Davidson appears to be Bona-fide. He’s done his time in the Minors and is miles ahead of where Nurse is. Davidson is also not shy about being physical, so its not like we are losing that element when moving Nurse.

    Davidson may also be cheaper long-term than Nurse. [No draft pedigree, Team gave him support with his cancer scare]

    Does Davidson emerging make Nurse expendable for that true #1 Defenseman? Nurse+____ could land you a helluva defenseman.

    Not an easy decision and Chiarelli would need to cover all his bases but I could live with it if done perfect.

    The problem is those kinds of trades are hard to make and never end up being perfect.

    Although you do have Jones and Bear in 3-4 years as well.

  59. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Centre of attention,

    Something like Nurse + a 1st for Faulk + a 2nd.

    I think the Oilers absolutely have to consider trading Nurse (or any of the young LHD) for an established RHD.

  60. Johnny skid says:

    Woodguy: Hamilton was a much more established player and he signed for $5.75 over 6 years.

    to
    would you not choose trouba over hamilton at that number?

  61. Water Fire says:

    Ehrhoff has nothing the Oilers need. Not physical, chaotic, old, doesn’t score. Even if he did score, the Oilers aren’t lacking offense, they are lacking defense. Somebody has to play defensively to win. Right now the players are either sketchy defensively or can’t do the hockeying thing very well.

    Power plays don’t make winning teams if the team fails 5v5.

    Time for the German league.

  62. Lowetide says:

    Hunt scores 1-0 Bakersfield

  63. Centre of attention says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Centre of attention,

    trade Nurse for Trouba and run Davidson-Trouba?

    Nurse-Buff would be one annoying pair to match up with down the road, I would have a really hard time letting Darnell go

    Agreed. Part of me still sees a bit of Larry Robinson in Nurse.

    But he might not be there for a couple years. The Oilers can’t wait a “couple years” to get a #1 D

    Chiarelli needs to accelerate this rebuild and so far the Reinhart move looks like it didn’t move the needle at all.

    Nurse for a BIG fish RHD would be a “bold move” and again will require tons of research and base-covering. If done properly it could accelerate this rebuild faster than any of us imagine.

  64. Water Fire says:

    Trouba (.226 PPG) doesn’t have nearly the offense that Klef has (.4 PPG) on a far worse team. It would only make sense if he wants to make less than Klef.

    We should be happy every time they don’t take a heavy contract for anything but a very elite player. It reduces the competitiveness of the competitors.

    Stamkos is a bad idea for Edmonton because he makes too much for what he brings. He is a good scorer but I don’t see him as a particularly dominant player. Eberle isn’t that far behind in scoring and would be at least 2M less salary. Neither do much else than provide offense and Stamkos would only sign to play with Connor so RW as Stamkos has said he thinks CMD is already the better player.

    With Connor making 9-10M I’d rather have 2 good players for Stamkos’ money for depth. Now is SS wants to play for 7M for the privilege I’d have to consider that.

  65. Centre of attention says:

    By the way, if I’m trading Nurse, I want more than Trouba.

    I’m talking BIG fish.

    The mind boggles.

  66. Centre of attention says:

    Klinkhammer. 2-0 bakersfield

  67. stevezie says:

    Water Fire: Even if he did score, the Oilers aren’t lacking offense, they are lacking defense.

    I can’t agree with this. Th Oilers PP is bad. Their even strength scoring is better than I thought it would be, but all things in they aren’t a great scoring team and the main reason is the defence are not great at getting the puck to the forwards.

    I agree Erhoff does not look like the perfect match for the Oilers’ problems but at this point they could use Marc-Andre Bergeron. They need NHL calibre defenceman, of any type.

    Not sure I just described Erhoff, he has a beauty contract and still got cut.

  68. Woodguy says:

    Johnny skid: to
    would you not choose trouba over hamilton at that number?

    No.

    Doesn’t bring enough offense.

  69. Centre of attention says:

    Slepyshev throwing his weight around. Two absolutely punishing checks.

  70. AsiaOil says:

    If we are talking WIN then I’m only interested in 2 guys:

    Ladd is a character top 6 vet that we need. If he and the Oil can agree on a dollar figure – would WIN take Pouliot in return as he could be a reasonable replacement?

    One of Trouba or Myers shakes free on the right side with Buffs signing. A 3 way deal with NYI for Trouba/Hamonic makes some sense – or if they want to keep Trouba – does RNH or Eberle get us into the conversation for Myers?

    We wait……

  71. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Woodguy: Snow has a history of being a hard ass on RFA contracts, especially when the players doesn’t have arb rights.

    Trouba’s reported ask is 6.5MM on a long term contract and he’s no where near that player today.

    I’m not sure Snow would want him unless he was signed to a bridge deal.

    Is he $6 or even $5 MM a year better than Brandon Davidson?

    This is that value contract issue I’ve been hammering on. Overpaying some young guy still learning the ropes is not the road to short term success. Or long term for that matter.

  72. Woodguy says:

    Trouba also shot 8.3% (10g) in his rookie year, which is pretty high for a Dman.

    Shooting 4.3% (4g) this year and shot 5.3% (7g) last year which is more reasonable.

    Doesn’t play much PP though.

    Given how many RFA years he has left (4), I’m inclined to agree with Water Fire that you don’t want to pay him much more than Klef.

    Klef is a bargain and you can’t expect that with every contract so you can’t have a “you can’t make more than Klef” rule though.

  73. Woodguy says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Is he $6 or even $5 MM a year better than Brandon Davidson?

    This is that value contract issue I’ve been hammering on. Overpaying some young guy still learning the ropes is not the road to short term success. Or long term for that matter.

    I agree with that.

    You seem angry Bruce.

  74. Woodguy says:

    AsiaOil,

    One of Trouba or Myers shakes free on the right side with Buffs signing.

    It won’t be Myers.

    Even though his cap hit is $4.5MM his real $ are $4MM, $3.5MM and $3MM for his next 3 (also his last 3) years on his contract which is pure gold for a budget team like WPG.

    Probably helped in their decision to re-sign Buff for what he wanted.

  75. Woodguy says:

    Centre of attention:
    By the way, if I’m trading Nurse, I want more than Trouba.

    I’m talking BIG fish.

    The mind boggles.

    Yeah, I’m not sure I trade Nurse for Trouba at $5MM now that I’ve ruminated on it.

    Similar players though in terms of physical style.

    Nurse skates like the wind though.

    Just needs experience so he can process the game at the NHL level.

    Early days for him.

  76. Water Fire says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Is he $6 or even $5 MM a year better than Brandon Davidson?

    This is that value contract issue I’ve been hammering on. Overpaying some young guy still learning the ropes is not the road to short term success. Or long term for that matter.

    Amen Bro. Big contracts for special players only. We have him already.

  77. Gerta Rauss says:

    Jason Lewis has a Kings take on Ehrhoff

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Jason-Lewis/Ehrhoff-on-Waivers-Kevin-Gravel-Call-up–Scouting-Report/179/74669

    I wanted an Ehrhoff type back in Sept but I’m not sure I see the point of claiming him now(49 contracts notwithstanding) We’ve got enough 3rd pairing D with 27 games to go-I’m not sure how Ehrhoff helps us unless Chia plans to trade several current defenceman

  78. Gerta Rauss says:

    Doug McLachlan:

    Call the Rangers and see if they are interested in Ehrhoff. If they are and Chia likes the return you pluck him off waivers and the. Trade him to the Rangers.Found money.

    Ehrhoff would have to clear waivers again prior to the trade. It’s possible I guess but there is a lot of moving parts with this transaction

  79. kinger_OIL says:

    – What about going the RFA offer sheet bulley tactics: Krug, Tyson, Gudbranson, Orlov, Stone, Lindholm, Vatenen, etc?

    – All now top-4 with upside, I know some aren’t RHD, just brain-storming

  80. Water Fire says:

    Anybody think there is a chance a deal could be struck with the Wild based on their cap issues, taking Vanek off their hands but making Niederreiter the ask. Maybe Yak (similar scoring) and another contract some sort?

  81. kinger_OIL says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    – It’s all about next year now: the tank dial is on 10, full-on.
    * Unless you get a deal for a Harmonic or + calibre D in-season, which is higly doubtful

  82. supernova says:

    Woodguy:
    AsiaOil,

    One of Trouba or Myers shakes free on the right side with Buffs signing.

    It won’t be Myers.

    Even though his cap hit is $4.5MM his real $ are $4MM, $3.5MM and $3MM for his next 3 (also his last 3) years on his contract which is pure gold for a budget team like WPG.

    Probably helped in their decision to re-sign Buff for what he wanted.

    Woodguy,

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Probably also the reason they might look to move Trouba for Hamonic ( add players & picks to whatever side)

    2 main benefits of Hamonic

    1) true blue veteran D a solid top 3 D with RH shot will have nearly 400 GP by summer
    2) you have him locked at very manageable cap number & money for 4 more years

    Those factors themselves create a bidding war no matter how many teams are involved

    Oilers in my opinion should be swinging hard for this deal.
    ————–
    On Trouba for Nurse, I pass. I like Trouba plenty he seems to play real well against us but contract demands make me back away.

    ————–

    On Ehrhoff claim.

    Why ?

    He seems to have something wrong or why does a team hoping to make a run for Stanley Dump him?

    It’s not his contract.

    GMs know they needs 8-9 D for a playoff run. He isn’t good enough to be one?

    GMoney said it right we went all in on Ference.

    If we claim him oh well. Maybe playing for the worst team in the league for a decade is akin to waking him up and knowing he has been exiled to Siberia

  83. Pouzar says:

    I don’t want to be “that guy” but I hope we stay away from Trouba.

  84. Water Fire says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Jason Lewis has a Kings take on Ehrhoff

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Jason-Lewis/Ehrhoff-on-Waivers-Kevin-Gravel-Call-up–Scouting-Report/179/74669

    I wanted an Ehrhoff type back in Sept but I’m not sure I see the point of claiming him now(49 contracts notwithstanding) We’ve got enough 3rd pairing D with 27 games to go-I’m not sure how Ehrhoff helps us unless Chia plans to trade several current defenceman

    Required reading for the Oilers. And us too.

  85. Water Fire says:

    “Toffoli, being young and inexperienced, tried to force a play. Lesson learned right?” Puck turned over. Sound familiar?

  86. Quinlan says:

    What’s with Anaheim and identifying good, young defenceman?

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=170326

    Brandon Montour. And he’s behind Shea Theodore.

    When you have scouting like that, you have so many options.

  87. supernova says:

    kinger_OIL:
    – What about going the RFA offer sheet bulley tactics: Krug, Tyson, Gudbranson, Orlov, Stone, Lindholm, Vatenen, etc?

    – All now top-4 with upside, I know some aren’t RHD, just brain-storming

    kinger_OIL,

    Absolutely RFA offer shoot top 4 D.

    Oilers should be the king of this.

    GMs rarely ever use it though

  88. Gerta Rauss says:

    Truth: How does the waiver system work? I know that at the start of the season the previous season’s standings are reverse order of priority on claims. Now that the Oilers claimed Clendening do they go to the bottom of the list?

    To the best of my knowledge there is no “bottom of the list” type of clause in the CBA. I’ve read that before on the internet, but I can’t find anything in the CBA. It’s lowest percentage of points accumulated (ie: if multiple teams submit a claim the worst team acquires the player)

  89. Gerta Rauss says:

    kinger_OIL:

    – It’s all about next year now: the tank dial is on 10, full-on.
    * Unless you get a deal for a Harmonic or + calibre D in-season, which is higly doubtful

    I’m not sure I agree about tanking-we need to win hockey games- but I do agree that unless a Hamonic type is acquired I don’t see the point of bringing in more bottom pair defenders with just 27 games left in the season

  90. BONVIE says:

    Gerta Rauss: I’m not sure I agree about tanking-we need to win hockey games- but I do agree that unless a Hamonic type is acquired I don’t see the point of bringing in more bottom pair defenders with just 27 games left in the season

    The season should be identifying those that are not a part of next years plan and trading them. The rest of the season should be giving the young players who are potentially part of next years plan playing time.

    The most important part is the rest of the season should be learning to bring a proffesional work ethic everynight and play the right way. The Oilers do not do this now and its the biggest factor even above weakness on defense and goaltending of why they cant win enough games to make the playoffs. If they could have 60 to 70 games with a consistent, prepared 60 minutes rather than the 30 to 40 games they are currently on pace for with consistent efforts they would be in the playoffs.

  91. Gordies Elbow says:

    Season is over, for all intents and purposes, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. We’ve had injuries, and new players, new systems, and it’s not unreasonable to start looking at the draft.

    With that in mind, I can see Edmonton trading Gryba prior to the deadline. He’s been good in his role, and likely has raised his stock over the year. I think that Edmonton needs an upgrade for next year, and looking at Hamonic’s contract, he’s just about perfect.

    If Edmonton moves Nurse for Hamonic, and then drafts Jakob Chychrun (yes, another LHD) with our likely 4th or 5th pick, are they not a better team in the McDavid window?

    Nurse gives the Isles a good player that can replace some of Hamonic’s play, which is something that Snow is likely looking for. Nurse is still green, though, so I can’t see a trade happening, as the Isles are looking towards the playoffs, and don’t want to upset the chemistry of their team.

    If it was Nurse for Hamonic, and Edmonton’s in a position to draft Chychrun, could you see the following for next season:

    Klefbom (LHD) – Hamonic (RHD)
    Sekera (LHD) – Fayne (RHD)
    Chychrun (LHD) – Davidson (LHD)

    – First pairing is better than Edmonton has had since 2006, and signed cheap long term;
    – The second pairing of Sekera and Fayne work, and I can’t see a market for Fayne right now;
    – Chychrun is a remarkable defender, and Davidson plays like a top four guy.

    If Edmonton’s looking at the 4th-5th pick, is moving Nurse the best play?

    Is that a core you could run with for the McDavid cluster?

  92. Gerta Rauss says:

    BONVIE,

    I agree with all of that

    And if they do the things you’ve mentioned, they’ll begin to win more games than they lose, both now and next season

  93. Snowman says:

    Gordies Elbow,

    Can you explain to me how Chychrun a likely 5th overall pick will be better at 18 than Nurse (7th overall) will be at 22 after 4 years of development?

    No plan that involves an 18 year old not named Mcdavid is a good plan. I’m all for adding to the D. The idea is to add experience and upgrade. Not rely on rookies.

    Klef-Hamonic
    Sekera-Fayne
    Davidson-Nurse/Gryba/Reinhart

    That makes more sense to me.

  94. Gordies Elbow says:

    Snowman,

    You have to give a good player to get, and Snow has stated that he is looking for a defender to replace Hamonic. I’d rather that Edmonton kept Klefbom and Davidson, and it’s lining up that Edmonton will get a great defender at 4-6.

    Comparing them at the same age, and you get:
    – Nurse: 68gp – 12g – 29a- 41pts – 116pim
    – Chychrun: 48gp – 9g – 25a – 34pts – 32pim

    Nurse has him in penalty minutes, but from what I’ve seen from the scouts, Chychrun is the better offensive defender at the same age, and looks like he could be the better bet long term. Hate to lose Nurse, but you have to give up a good asset to get a good asset, and Hamonic’s contract is great.

    PS: And I don’t think that Snow moves Hamonic without a defender coming back. He’s said as much publicly.

  95. Gerta Rauss says:

    Gordies Elbow: And I don’t think that Snow moves Hamonic without a defender coming back. He’s said as much publicly.

    He might change his mind in the summer/at the draft. I think he wants Hamonic for the playoffs, he’ll deal with the trade request when the season is over

  96. Gordies Elbow says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    If he hasn’t done so by now, why would he deal with it when the season is over? He’s not in a rush to make a deal.

  97. BONVIE says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    Snowman,

    You have to give a good player to get, and Snow has stated that he is looking for a defender to replace Hamonic. I’d rather that Edmonton kept Klefbom and Davidson, and it’s lining up that Edmonton will get a great defender at 4-6.

    Comparing them at the same age, and you get:– Nurse: 68gp – 12g – 29a-41pts– 116pim– Chychrun: 48gp – 9g – 25a – 34pts – 32pim

    Nurse has him in penalty minutes, but from what I’ve seen from the scouts, Chychrun is the better offensivedefender at the same age, and looks like he could be the better bet long term. Hate to lose Nurse, but you have to give up a good asset to get a good asset, and Hamonic’s contract is great.

    PS: And I don’t think that Snow moves Hamonic without a defender coming back. He’s said as much publicly.

    Thats a rather pointless acquisition in my opinion as well if we have a chance to pick up Chychrun great but he cant be part of our plans within the McDavid entry level contract. I am not giving away any player on the Oilers that looks like he does not like to lose. Nurse makes alot of mistakes right now but he has great skills and has what it takes charactar wise to become a very good defenseman. I have him, Klefbom, and Davidson as the D that are definitely part of the future.

  98. Gerta Rauss says:

    Gordies Elbow:

    If he hasn’t done so by now, why would he deal with it when the season is over? He’s not in a rush to make a deal.

    Because he may not get what he wants (a D man back in the trade)

    He may be more open to trading for a forward in the summer when he’ll have more opportunity to replace Hamonic via another transaction

    *edit-I also believe the clock is ticking.It’s not urgent now by any means, but if he doesn’t deal him by Feb 29, the next opportunity is late June. And if he hasn’t done it by mid July, he starts to lose leverage because everyone knows he’s got a player that has requested a trade

  99. Gordies Elbow says:

    BONVIE,

    So, who do you give to get Hamonic (RHD)? Or do you run with Klefbom (LHD) Sekera (LHD) Nurse (LHD) Davidson (LHD) Reinhart (LHD)? An all LHD defense?

    We could keep Schultz (RHD) Clendenning (RHD) Fayne (RHD), but nobody else seems to want them. There isn’t a great RHD at the top of the draft, so Edmonton should move a current player for a RHD, if possible. Best one available requires (according to Snow’s comments) giving up a comparable defender.

  100. Gordies Elbow says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    If he can fill the 1st pairing right sided defender hole in the summer, why can’t we?

  101. Gerta Rauss says:

    Gordies Elbow:

    If he can fill the 1st pairing right sided defender hole in the summer, why can’t we?

    We can

    We’ll trade Eberle for Hamonic

  102. Gordies Elbow says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Look at the NYI depth chart, and ask yourself why you’d trade a 1st pairing, right defender for Eberle.

    They’re running centres as wingers, and scoring from the wing isn’t enough of a problem that they’ll trade a 1st pairing right defender for a scoring winger.

  103. who says:

    Do you think that Eberle plus Davidson gets you harmonic and a forward. I think the d in the trade has to be dav or klef. Not willing to part with nurse cause he has the highest ceiling.

    Gordies Elbow:
    Gerta Rauss,

    Look at the NYI depth chart, and ask yourself why you’d trade a 1st pairing, right defender for Eberle.

    They’re running centres as wingers, and scoring from the wing isn’t enough of a problem that they’ll trade a 1st pairing right defender for a scoring winger.

  104. Gerta Rauss says:

    Gordies Elbow:

    Look at the NYI depth chart, and ask yourself why you’d trade a 1st pairing, right defender for Eberle.

    They’re running centres as wingers, and scoring from the wing isn’t enough of a problem that they’ll trade a 1st pairing right defender for a scoring winger.

    Eberle scores goals and that has value. There may be other assets involved but I think Snow could find a roster spot for Eberle if his options start to dwindle.

    And Edmonton is on a very short list of teams that Hamonic has asked to be traded to. If you believe the internet it’s just Wpg and Edm.

    Wpg seems like a slam dunk but they’ve got a lot of dollars on that right side. And I don’t know what Snow thinks of Trouba as a player

    We’ll see, we may get an answer in the next couple of weeks

  105. Gordies Elbow says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Eberle is a great player, but not a real need for NYI.

    Likeliest scenario has Edmonton on the outside looking in, with Myers+ heading to NYI for Hamonic.

    Edmonton has an opportunity here, but it’ll cost more than the fans here want.

  106. Gerta Rauss says:

    Gordies Elbow,

    I’m willing to pay more than most fans would care to- I’ve had enough of the losing

  107. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Woodguy: I agree with that.

    You seem angry Bruce.

    Getting a little bit cross, though not with you. I simply seized upon your comment about Trouba’s salary expectations to return to an earlier exchange with Kinger_Oil & others who all wanted to trade Davidson for some shiny toy or another that costs far far more for questionable/negligible upgrade.

    Didn’t explain that very well, sorry. I’ve only peripherally been involved in these endless trade scenario threads which frankly I find a little tiresome after a while.

  108. JDï™ says:

    Is there a more perfect name for someone who leads a standoff against the FBI, than Cliven Bundy?

  109. Solde says:

    Here’s my first post. I haven’t seen this news anywhere else in Oil blogs, so I thought I should share it to you. http://www.iltalehti.fi/nhl/2016021021099628_nh.shtml (in Finnish, sorry).

    MacT and James McGregor are visiting Finland to check Laine and Puljujärvi playing. Unfortunately they weren’t aware that Laine is playing with men’s national team in Sweden at the moment. It makes me wonder if MacT is so inept scout that he can’t even check news of the player. It was in the news maybe a week ago that Laine would be playing with national team against Sweden in Euro Hockey Tour. Laine made it to the team, but Puljujärvi didn’t….

  110. AsiaOil says:

    Just chill big guy. You and I were vocal in TC about sending down Davidson and how he would never clear. Same people under-valuing him now. He’s total found money and you sign him for 2-4 years. Even if he is a 4-5 guy (is already) that’s a home run draft pick and he still has potential to be a 3-4. Chia knows value when he sees it and Davidson would need a shocking overpay to move.

    Bruce McCurdy: Getting a little bit cross, though not with you. I simply seized upon your comment about Trouba’s salary expectations to return to an earlier exchange with Kinger_Oil & others who all wanted to trade Davidson for some shiny toy or another that costs far far more for questionable/negligible upgrade.

    Didn’t explain that very well, sorry. I’ve only peripherally been involved in these endless trade scenario threads which frankly I find a little tiresome after a while.

  111. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Solde:
    Here’s my first post. I haven’t seen this news anywhere else in Oil blogs, so I thought I should share it to you. http://www.iltalehti.fi/nhl/2016021021099628_nh.shtml (in Finnish, sorry).

    MacT and James McGregor are visiting Finland to check Laine and Puljujärvi playing. Unfortunately they weren’t aware that Laine is playing with men’s national team in Sweden at the moment. It makes me wonder if MacT is so inept scout that he can’t even check news of the player. It was in the news maybe a week ago that Laine would be playing with national team against Sweden in Euro Hockey Tour. Laine made it to the team, but Puljujärvi didn’t….

    Hello Solde & welcome! Thanks for that report, & you’re right it does raise a few questions.

  112. Bruce McCurdy says:

    AsiaOil:
    Just chill big guy. You and I were vocal in TC about sending down Davidson and how he would never clear. Same people under-valuing him now. He’s total found money and you sign him for 2-4 years. Even if he is a 4-5 guy (is already) that’s a home run draft pick and he still has potential to be a 3-4. Chia knows value when he sees it and Davidson would need a shocking overpay to move.

    Yeah i’m confident you’re right. the value here is not just the player but the underpay of contract to actual performance in this & his next pact. There have to have a few of those in your roster to make room for the big fish, & not simply throw them in to every trade proposal as a sweetener to land said big fish.

    The more i see of Davidson the more convinced i am of his top 4 potential, indeed he is there right now if only on the Oilers as ooposed to a “real” NHL defence of hairy-assed men. But it is very easy to visualize him growing with the cluster, which he is a perfect age for.

  113. spoiler says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Yeah i’m confident you’re right. the value here is not just the player but the underpay of contract to actual performance in this & his next pact. There have to have a few of those in your roster to make room for the big fish, & not simply throw them in to every trade proposal as a sweetener to land said big fish.

    The more i see of Davidson the more convinced i am of his top 4 potential, indeed he is there right now if only on the Oilers as ooposed to a “real” NHL defence of hairy-assed men. But it is very easy to visualize him growing with the cluster, which he is a perfect age for.

    This is a no-brainer and I’m stunned that people disagree.

    As for the endless, tiresome trade talk….

    First off, The Hoff… this is merely the Kings trying to clear salary, doesn’t mean the player is bad. They might not even post him to the A if he clears or they might temporarily. He’s in their top 8 dmen, bu way too expensive for a end of bench guy when that can be improved upon at the deadline. They are hoping they can dump that salary.

    Should we take him? I’m mostly agnostic but push comes to shove would rather give the kids reps at this point.

    Nurse>Hamonic>Trouba. You do the rest of the math.

    I want a 2nd rounder with Hammer, I think, if I’m trading Nurse. Or a real, solid prospect. But I’m not sure I should be giving up the best player in a deal where the other guy asked for a trade. I’m offering a 2nd and Musil-Simpson grade prospect right now during the season, and might pull the trigger on a counter of flip1sts and same level of prospect going to NYI.

    If that won’t get it done then we wait till summer and talk again, when we have a better idea of players too. The Jets aren’t sending a player during the season either. Unless Trouba really is trouble. In which case, how can we possibly match?

    We need O from the blue as much as D altho the Bomb’s injury has been much of that crater, but I’d raher have one of Anaheim’s Ds or Shattemkirk as tempting as Hammer is. We can call him 1st pairing all we want but he is a #2 D not a #1… he’s the defensive conscience of the pairing, not the threat. And while that has value, that’s not a Karlsson or Subban, and that’s certainly not the same as an all-rounder can-do-everything like Doughty or Lidstrom.

  114. GCW_69 says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Jason Lewis has a Kings take on Ehrhoff

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Jason-Lewis/Ehrhoff-on-Waivers-Kevin-Gravel-Call-up–Scouting-Report/179/74669

    I wanted an Ehrhoff type back in Sept but I’m not sure I see the point of claiming him now(49 contracts notwithstanding) We’ve got enough 3rd pairing D with 27 games to go-I’m not sure how Ehrhoff helps us unless Chia plans to trade several current defenceman

    “…zone exits via pass. These are essential numbers in the Kings system, which thrives on the defenseman being THE GUY to start breakouts. ”

    Great article. If only somebody would explain this to the Oilers.

  115. Professor Q says:

    supernova: Woodguy,

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Probably also the reason they might look to move Trouba for Hamonic ( add players & picks to whatever side)

    2 main benefits of Hamonic

    1) true blue veteran D a solid top 3 D with RH shot will have nearly 400 GP by summer
    2) you have him locked at very manageable cap number & money for 4 more years

    Those factors themselves create a bidding war no matter how many teams are involved

    Oilers in my opinion should be swinging hard for this deal.
    ————–
    On Trouba for Nurse, I pass. I like Trouba plenty he seems to play real well against us but contract demands make me back away.

    ————–

    On Ehrhoff claim.

    Why ?

    He seems to have something wrong or why does a team hoping to make a run for Stanley Dump him?

    It’s not his contract.

    GMs know they needs 8-9 D for a playoff run. He isn’t good enough to be one?

    GMoney said it right we went all in on Ference.

    If we claim him oh well. Maybe playing for the worst team in the league for a decade is akin to waking him up and knowing he has been exiled to Siberia

    Hamonic is a veteran?

  116. stevezie says:

    Gerta Rauss: Jason Lewis has a Kings take on Ehrhoff
    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Jason-Lewis/Ehrhoff-on-Waivers-Kevin-Gravel-Call-up–Scouting-Report/179/74669

    This is a fantastic article. Key quote:

    “Not every good player can be a good player in every system in the NHL.”

  117. Pouzar says:

    stevezie: This is a fantastic article. Key quote:

    “Not every good player can be a good player in every system in the NHL.”

    Great article indeed.

  118. Water Fire says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Yeah i’m confident you’re right. the value here is not just the player but the underpay of contract to actual performance in this & his next pact. There have to have a few of those in your roster to make room for the big fish, & not simply throw them in to every trade proposal as a sweetener to land said big fish.

    The more i see of Davidson the more convinced i am of his top 4 potential, indeed he is there right now if only on the Oilers as ooposed to a “real” NHL defence of hairy-assed men. But it is very easy to visualize him growing with the cluster, which he is a perfect age for.

    They need their Charlie Huddy

  119. who says:

    The problem with trying to trade for a quality dman is that most teams are not deep enough to let one go without getting an nhl ready dman back. In that scenario our trade chips are klef, proven young dman on cheap long term contract with top pairing potential, nurse, potential stud dman in rookie year or Davidson, good young dman who may be close to his ceiling due to age and skating ability. Everything I’ve seen from Reinhardt in last 2 weeks indicate he is not nhl ready or I would include him. That is why we see Davidsons name in all these trade proposals.
    I think our best match is Winnipeg because they have 2 proven and 1 potential first pair right dman. They are already playing these three guys in their top 4 so they have the opposite problem we do. Hall and Davidson for Myers and ehler. Yes I like both players we are giving up but we’re getting 2 good ones back with similar age and contracts. Would Winnipeg do this deal. Would the oilers.

  120. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Water Fire: They need their Charlie Huddy

    YES!!! I have made the Davidson-Huddy comp in the past. Good, affordable, reliable, versatile role players.

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