G66 2015-16: OILERS AT FLYERS

The Oilers seem to be gathering some structure and clarity since the Ottawa collapse, and find themselves in Philadelphia, where it is always sunny. How does this play out? Hopefully, 10 points for McDavid and Brandon Manning in Lehigh Valley. For me, two things are certain: The Oilers are a young team, and young teams don’t develop in a straight line. Second: There is a chance here to pass some teams, and as ridiculous as it may sound, I think it is important. Turning north with a finish at No. 26 overall would represent some degree of progress. Besides, Edmonton might win the lottery no matter their final position.

RUM HAM, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2014: 4-5-1
  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0
  • Oilers in November 2014: 2-9-3
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2
  • Oilers in December 2014: 2-8-4
  • Oilers in December 2015: 7-6-1
  • Oilers in January 2015: 5-7-1
  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-5-2
  • Oilers in February 2015: 5-6-1
  • Oilers in February 2016: 4-8-2
  • Oilers in March 2015: 5-6-3
  • Oilers in March 2016: 1-0-0
  • Oilers after 65 in 2014-15: 18-36-11, 47 points (-69 GD)
  • Oilers after 65 in 2015-16: 24-34-7, 55 points (-35 GD)

In G66 a year ago, the Oilers got hammered by the Carolina Hurricanes 7-4. Richard Bachman had a terrible game, but he would recover and play well several times before the end of the year. The current Oilers seem to have recovered a little defensively, and the goal differential—which had been wildly out of control in recent weeks—is somewhat under control. Knock, knock, knock. On wood.

DEFENSE, 2015-16

OILERS DEFENSE OVER SEASON

  • Brandon Davidson has a tremendous line, tough to find a negative. The best set of stats in regard to Davidson has to be his sublime WOWY run with defensive partners. If Todd McLellan puts your favorite defenseman (aside from Davidson) with 88, you are going to enjoy the evening.
  • Oscar Klefbom was having a very nice season, emerging as an offensive option (you can see it, especially in the 5×5) while also doing very well in the defensive spectrum. Among the damaging things that killed the year, the loss of OK ranks very high, probably No. 1.
  • Eric Gryba was having a nice season before his injury. I had a nice chat with Bruce McCurdy yesterday about the Marincin—Gryba deal, he made a terrific point about PC wanting a more physical player than Marincin. I think the Oilers will sign Gryba, but only if they can offload Mark Fayne, who is also a defensive defender (without being overly physical).
  • Andrej Sekera has his possession numbers going north after the Nurse experiment ended, he is at 50 percent for the season without Darnell. His even-strength offense is low, that is not a terribly big deal, but if the Oilers can get him on the second pairing next season—with someone like Sami Vatanen—he could spike.
  • If the Oilers opened 2016-17 with Klefbom—Hamonic; Sekera—Jason Demers; Nurse—Davidson, is that enough for you? Would you prefer Sekera RH side? If both are non-starters, you are probably looking at trading one of Darnell Nurse or Brandon Davidson, with Klefbom and Sekera on the top two pairs.
  • Darnell Nurse will be on this team next season, I am confident in saying it. His physical style, skating ability and natural talent make him impossible to trade until Edmonton knows exactly what it has in him. What does that mean? A lefty playing right side next season, that is my guess. At least until injuries hit. Don’t discount Nurse playing some in Bakersfield next season, those games will matter enough to demote a young blue costing goals.

CENTERS, 2015-16

OILERS CENTERS OVER SEASON1

  • Connor McDavid scored two goals in the last game, seemed to be motivated by friends and family. If that inspired him, lord knows what he will do to a team that cost him half a season. Thunder of the Gods! A fabulous season, his line is close enough to perfect.
  • Leon Draisaitl gives this team a nice option in that he can play center or wing. Todd McLellan used that option to great effect (Joe Pavelski) in San Jose, I bet he does the same thing next season in Edmonton.
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins didn’t make the World Hockey U24 team (North America) and Peter Chiarelli is the GM. The Nuge is overqualified for that team. I wrote about it last night, saying it is possible for Chiarelli to both have RNH is future plans and to have been part of a management group that left him off for now. Not every news story has the same importance, and frankly the players not on lists yesterday could win the whole damned tournament. I think PC will trade the player required to satisfy the ask that helps this team the most, don’t think we know who it is. As I have suggested before, Nuge is probably on the list of players he is willing to sacrifice. If he is smart, keeping the center is a priority.
  • If Edmonton decides to keep all three, and I think they may, then six wingers who cost less than $100 million a year is vital. Who would you choose? If you started with Pouliot—McDavid, Hall—Leon and Nuge—Eberle, who would you fill in those lines with? If you went (by line) Yakupov, Kassian and Maroon, could you afford it? Is that any good?

LEFT WINGERS, 2015-16

OILERS LW OVER SEASON

  • Taylor Hall hasn’t posted a lot of offense in the last while (14, 2-4-6 in February) and I think most of us chalk it up to Leon’s downturn. With RNH coming back soon, we may see the band back together.
  • Benoit Pouliot had a fantastic season going before the injury, the guy is a player. You can say he was lucky to play with 97 for much of the year, but my response is that he posted 2.94/60 at 5×5 with McDavid. It isn’t bragging if you can do it, BP is bona fide.
  • The offense really stops after Hall and Pouliot among the LWs, the best scorer after that is Lauri Korpikoski, and he posted that 0.93/60 at 5×5 with Letestu and Lander—damned near impossible to score with Lander, and Letestu is worse! Bah, the bottom six.
  • I mentioned the other day on twitter that Milan Lucic at 6×6 is something I could get behind, received a few responses on the negative. I know he has a lot of miles for his age (I have watched him a lot over the years) but the first four years of that deal should be good. Edmonton can’t afford this player as they are currently constructed, but we don’t know the future—we could see any of these LWs heading out of town this summer.

RIGHT WINGERS, 2015-16

OILERS RW OVER SEASON

  • Jordan Eberle was taking some colossal hits in the comments section yesterday. He definitely blew a coverage and folks it isn’t the first one. I would prefer Billy Guerin too, but he is 45. Let’s keep some of these guys who can cash passes from the centers, agree?
  • Nail Yakupov got a nice push left side and played well enough, I thought the words from the coach (‘big things!’) might mean he would be stapled to Letestu by the third shift. Not so, and we will see how the lineup works in Philly with Patrick (what a) Maroon inserted in the lineup.
  • Zack Kassian is below the Mendoza line in terms of scoring chances/60, I think it has to do with all of those Letestu minutes. He has four points in less than an hour 5×5 on Leon’s line—might be worth hanging Nuge with Hall and Kassian for awhile.

ODDS AND SODS

  • The Oilers beat the Flyers in the first meeting of the season, early November. At that time, we were still coming to grips with the loss of McDavid. Goddamns at minus five at that time.
  • Flyers are 3-0-0 on their current homestand, this won’t be an easy game for Edmonton.
  • At home, the Oilers are 16-14-2, but their road record (8-20-5) is a killer.

ONE YEAR AGO

I will tell you now, one year ago was a very tough time for this Oilers fan. Why?

Here is what I wrote that day:

  • The Edmonton Oilers are a bad hockey club and they make decisions based on things other than winning. Saying more would only cloud the issue. There is nothing about the actions of this team in recent months that offers us any hope for the future. I have reached this conclusion: The Edmonton Oilers organization has no idea what they’re doing. Source

We can argue about Peter Chiarelli’s trades and missteps, and there have been a few. We can fret about his tendency to add contracts with an extra year (this is now a trend) and I think we should be very concerned about how much he will get done this summer. That said, three of the five men mentioned by MacT are no longer in the picture (well, Nikita, but not really), and I expect they will flush Mark Fayne straightaway. We came through a trade deadline where a terrible move (dealing Yak for 10 cents on the dollar) did not occur and the Maroon pickup was a decent bet. Finally, and I do not want to be rude here, Chiarelli gave his coaching staff relief by moving out a defensive liability.

CHIARELLI’S LIST AND SOLUTIONS, 2015 SUMMER

  1. Draft McDavid and sign him (Done)
  2. Find a quality goalie option (Cam Talbot)
  3. Acquire a legit top pairing blue (Andrej Sekera)
  4. Sign a two-way F (Lauri Korpikoski)
  5. Ignore MacT re: Marincin (Or trade Marincin for real value) (Eric Gryba)
  6. Veteran two-way center (Mark Letestu)

That was my list one year ago, iirc we liked the McDavid draft, the Talbot trade and the Sekera signing. We were not fans of the Korpikoski acquisition (added a year of salary and there was erosion in the resume); somewhat divided on the Marincin-Gryba trade and generally onside with the Letestu addition. Fair?

CHIARELLI’S LIST, 2016 SUMMER

  1. Top-pairing D to partner with Klefbom (Travis Hamonic)
  2. Second-pairing D to partner with Sekera (Sami Vatanen or Jason Demers)
  3. Third-line C if they trade Nuge (Nuge)
  4. Scoring winger if they trade Eberle (Laine)
  5. Offload unwanted contracts (Fayne, Korpikoski)

Anything else? I think that is probably it, of course if Kassian and or Maroon don’t work out the list could be longer. If we assume Eberle for Hamonic, and that Demers is signed, Laine is added and this all works under the cap, we might see:

  • Pouliot—McDavid—Yakupov
  • Hall—Draisaitl—Kassian
  • Maroon—Nuge—Laine
  • Korpikoski—Letestu—Hendricks
  • Klefbom—Hamonic
  • Sekera—Demers
  • Nurse—Davidson
  • Talbot—Brossoit

And then extra’s based on cap room and specific needs (maybe 8D). Thoughts? You can move Hall or Nuge instead of Eberle, I always pick on Eberle because it seems to leave Edmonton strongest when everything is done. Keeping the two drivers—McDavid and Hall—sets up the top two lines in a grand fashion. Keeping all three centers means never having to say you’re sorry.

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LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy, fun show, and a guest or two still to come. Scheduled to appear, TSN 1260 beginning at 10:

  • Darcy McLeod, Because Oilers. A blue-sky visit, talking about procurement in summer, fixing the defense, and the importance of the final 15 games.
  • Jesse Spector, The Sporting News. Baseball spring training is underway! The warmth of the sun! Tobacco being spit more than one mile! The crack of the bat and terrible infield defense! Jesse is in San Fransisco, we will pull him away for a few minutes to chat about hope springing eternal around the majors.
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. How high can the Oilers go in the standings? Are some of these teams going to dive like Buffalo and Arizona did one year ago?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. StixMalone says:

    Amazing what jettisoning a Jultz does! This team is playing for each other! Morale is at a different level!

  2. stevezie says:

    Gudas has a well-earned reputation.

  3. Centre of attention says:

    Hall isnt taking shit from anyone tonight lol. Kassian has no chill

  4. stevezie says:

    StixMalone:
    Amazing what jettisoning a Jultz does! This team is playing for each other! Morale is at a different level!

    He was a Jonah

  5. One-Timer says:

    Psychologically this is such a great game for the oil. The Core is feeling some love from the supporting cast.

  6. Thor762 says:

    Younger Oil,

    Exactly. One player that costs nearly a goal every game just breaks the moral of the team. Eliminate that, and wow what a difference thus far.

  7. The Trade Guy says:

    My highlights are Tay Tays goal and Giroux getting high sticked by his own team mate and talking tough at Jordan Eberle.

  8. BeerMe says:

    Can’t believe we got Kassian for free.

  9. khildahl says:

    JDï™: It’s Always Booey in Philadelphia.

    I do sometimes suspect the fans drink paint.

  10. BONE207 says:

    If this keeps up for the next few minutes, I’m pouring myself a drink. These events are just too rare. Because Oilerz

  11. Strapping Jocks says:

    I am a little disappointed that McDavid doesn’t have a point yet.

  12. Centre of attention says:

    Philly power play looks off. Or the Oilers Pk is elite.

  13. The Trade Guy says:

    Strapping Jocks:
    I am a little disappointed that McDavid doesn’t have a point yet.

    He does?

  14. Visually better says:

    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this rough, sticking up for eachother stuff is making me the most content person right now. As a hockey player who spent more time in the penalty box than on the ice I could watch this stuff all night and day.

    I have been waiting sooooo long to watch the Oilers ice a team with not just heavyweight goons but guys who can actually play hockey and toss some bodies.

    life is good..

  15. G Money says:

    See how Gudas took Hall into a bear hug and then threw a punch at Hall.

    The ref just watches, until Kassian comes in – THEN the arm goes up.

  16. BeerMe says:

    Strapping Jocks:
    I am a little disappointed that McDavid doesn’t have a point yet.

    He didn’t get an assist on Yak’s goal?

  17. Centre of attention says:

    Strapping Jocks:
    I am a little disappointed that McDavid doesn’t have a point yet.

    He has an assist on yaks goal i believe

  18. Soup Fascist says:

    Zack going “Full Kass” there.

    This is a good thing ….. Especially in a 4-0 game.

  19. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Younger Oil:
    Small sample size to be saying this, but I wonder if Schultz playing so much and so badly disheartened many players on the team.

    The team defence and effort is just so much better.

    It’s remarkable honestly.

    Absolutely. How could it not?

  20. BONE207 says:

    Yak has made some great checks tonight…

  21. Visually better says:

    G Money,

    yep, such bullshit

  22. G Money says:

    Sorry, I got that backward, Gudas threw the punch (a right hook at Hall’s head), THEN bear hugged him.

  23. AsiaOil says:

    Yak still running around smacking guys with a minute left 🙂

  24. Strapping Jocks says:

    The Trade Guy: He does?

    Hahaha, right! Seems so long ago with all the other goals since then. Such a change from most of the games in the past.

  25. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Chia is going to Have a few satisfaction beers tonight.
    Nice to see some actual emotion

  26. jake70 says:

    5 lined up at the blue line…must give Talbot the shutout

  27. JDï™ says:

    McDavid conquers Girouxsalem.

  28. Mr DeBakey says:

    The clique-ridden Oilers shut-out the Broadstreet Ballerinas on the road.
    Who wudda thunk?

  29. Lowetide says:

    That was a very good effort. Middle frame got away from them because of penalties, but they certainly earned the win.

  30. G Money says:

    You can see the huge, obvious, blatant right hook here:

    This is some bush league bullshit right here #Gudas pic.twitter.com/TatMOrplcN— Jeanshorts (@JSBMjeanshorts) 4 March 2016

  31. The Trade Guy says:

    wow a shut out. Great game. Eat shit forever flyers.

  32. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide:
    McDavid and Yakupov have chemistry. The man needs a center.

    He just seems to have a different energy level when playing with a good centre. Like his game mind and effort change to a higher gear.

    And I’m glad it’s with McDavid and not Galchenyuk (thank you for not trading him. Chia!).

  33. Strapping Jocks says:

    Wow, 3rd shutout in 5 games against Philly for Talbot! He has their number!

  34. AsiaOil says:

    Good job all around tonight – especially Talbot. Fast enough to kill off the break – big enough to not take crap from anyone. This looks more like a Chia/TMac squad already and we haven’t even used up any bullets to fill the obvious holes on defense.

  35. Thor762 says:

    With Nuge and Klef still to join the team, what could this team do with a top end #1RHD? How far could they go?
    Games like this make me happy.

  36. Professor Q says:

    McDavid being dubbed ‘Magic’ by Oilers’ social media.

    I like it.

  37. stevezie says:

    It was a real small thing, but I liked seeing Yak getting double-shifted out there. On the rw too.

    This is pure arm-chair, but he just seems like such an emotional guy. Bet he needed the pat on the back.

  38. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Davidson with 7.5 minutes of PK ice time tonight.

    Why do we keep telling ourselves he’ll be 3rd pair next year? He played 24 minutes tonight, even when he’s saddled with Pardy.

    Oilers 6 GA in 5 games w/o Schultz?

  39. stevezie says:

    G Money,

    Even in the 1st his attack on Maroon was kind of bizarre, we just didn’t notice as much because Maroon is huge.

    Gudas is violent.

    Unrelated note: I really thought Giroux and Hall were going to fight at one point. Most of me is glad they didn’t.

  40. Soup Fascist says:

    Very short sample size – but the much vaunted “functional toughness” would appear to be a real thing and is contagious.

    All of a sudden Fayne is clearing the crease with an ill-intended cross check / Hall is going after a guy in a couple scrums and Flyers are whining like sissies.

    Call me a Caveman ….. But ……. Me likey.

  41. Professor Q says:

    Also: what is with the Flyers and causing Oilers to go into the end boards? Just saw the Gostisbehere trip on Hall’s goal.

    I hope he cries when McDavid takes his Calder Trophy away.

  42. Younger Oil says:

    G Money:
    You can see the huge, obvious, blatant right hook here:

    Refs did the right thing IMO.

    Got both Kassian and Gudas out, which settled a game down that was getting out of hand.

    If that scrum is 5 on 5 or an Oilers PP after, Flyers are going to still be pissed, and start taking even more liberties.

    Giving the Flyers a PP gets the non-goon Flyers out there, and gets them focused on scoring a goal rather than taking another run at Hall, or God forbid McDavid.

    Was it the right call according to the rulebook? No. But I think the ref knew that, and made a judgement call on how to control the game, and the game calmed down significantly after that.

    I’d rather give up a shutout in a won game than see another star player get injured.

  43. LadiesloveSmid says:

    stevezie,

    with PPs 7-1 Philly, guy only got 11 minutes of ice time. Such a back and forth, yet EDM is septupled in penalties

  44. hags9k says:

    I love Red Hulk (Maroon) and I love Kassian. They can both play, and both love to shove and punch multiple opponents with both arms at once. It’s been way too long since we had some killers on the loose.

    Amazing game from Talbot. He is getting a piece of everything right now.

    Keep it going boys and climb the standings as much as possible.

  45. sliderule says:

    Korpikoski made the Finn world selectors look good today.

    I don’t give a shit what his Corsi was he had a good game.

  46. Dicky94 says:

    Sounds like the Oilers are going to play the Jets next year in Winnipeg for an outdoor game! I am going for sure.

  47. Dominoiler says:

    I only caught the third period, loved the couple hits I saw Yak deliver, very solid.. (havent seen his goal yet).. anyone wanna recap how his night was for me?!.. please n thanks..

    Interesting to see the Oilers play their ‘toughest’ game, to my eye, this season.. Kassian doing his thing, but Maroon too.. wow, big guy.. Hall seemed to be standing a little taller, not backing down from a chippy Flyer team.. Something has changed.. even Fayne lost his bucket getting nasty in front of the net!.. I was (pleasantly) surprised..

  48. Dr. Taboggan says:

    I was happy to see Hall swat Ghost in the face. The Oilers did a win!

  49. Professor Q says:

    Also, Jagr tied Howe tonight.

  50. Dominoiler says:

    Soup Fascist:
    Very short sample size – but the much vaunted “functional toughness” would appear to be a real thing and is contagious.

    All of a sudden Fayne is clearing the crease with an ill-intended cross check / Hall is going after a guy in a couple scrums and Flyers are whining like sissies.

    Call me a Caveman ….. But ……. Me likey.

    Me Caveman, Me Quote for Emphasis..

  51. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Only negative for me is the damn reffing in this game.

    Team stood up for themselves and each other, Talbot was great, Davidson was great, lines were rolling.

    What is the physical battle if Kass/Maroon weren’t there. Maroon is a big, sturdy boy. Threw Simmonds around and took on two guys twice. Kassian was seriously passionate at Hall’s defence.

    Talbot up to .918 on the season. Loving this game and team today

  52. stevezie says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    Yak is in good company.

    Anyone looking for further amusement should take a look at the TOI for this game. Other than 97, Hendricks led all forwards with seventeen minutes. Lander and Letestu were second and third.

    I actually didn’t notice 97 that much after the first and am surprised he got so much more time than Yak (12) and Ebs (11). I know it was powerplays, but it still looks weird.

  53. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Calgary lost to Buffalo 6-3, Oilers jump ahead of Phlegms and the Jets.

    Progress?

  54. fifthcartel says:

    Talbot up to .918

    And in small sample sizes, Pardy looks fairly competent. I’d rather they spend ~1m on him than giving Gryba 1.5-2m even with handedness into the picture.

  55. stevezie says:

    LadiesloveSmid: Kassian was seriously passionate at Hall’s defence.

    You know how if you get a puppy there’s a lifelong bond there, but that puppy will never love you with the desperation of a rescue dog? Not saying one is better, but rescue dogs know what they owe you?

    Kassian plays with a little rescue dog to his game.

    That’s probably nonsense, he’s probably always played like that. But narratives are easy and fun.

  56. frjohnk says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    Calgary lost to Buffalo 6-3, Oilers jump ahead of Phlegms and the Jets.

    Progress?

    3 points out of 23rd.

    A strong finish will gain respectability and optimism for next year that the team is headed into the right direction.

    I’d rather have that than higher odds at drafting in the top 3

  57. G Money says:

    Younger Oil,

    Sorry, but that’s a ridiculous statement.

    The Flyers were gooning it up from pretty early on.

    The PP count finished 7-1 for the Flyers.

    SEVEN
    TO
    ONE.

    The refs ‘controlled’ this game?

    The refs were beyond abysmal. This was one of the worst reffed games I’ve seen, and I’VE BEEN WATCHING THE OILERS ALL SEASON.

  58. StixMalone says:

    Hey are we undefeated in the post Jultz era?

  59. LoDog says:

    Great. Fucking. Game.

    MOAR BIGGER! ☺

  60. JDï™ says:

    StixMalone:
    Hey are we undefeated in the post Jultz era?

    If you don’t count those two losses, yes.

  61. Edmonton_fan says:

    A strong finish will gain respectability and optimism for next year that the team is headed into the right direction.

    I’d rather have that than higher odds at drafting in the top 3

    My goal at the beginning of the season was to finish one point out of the playoffs – and win the draft lottery. McJesus’s, Eberle’s & Nuge’s injuries derailed the first part; but we are winning the lottery… 😉

  62. Магия 10 says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    Calgary lost to Buffalo 6-3, Oilers jump ahead of Phlegms and the Jets.

    Progress?

    Leafs. Jets. Phlegms behind. 3 pts back of Sabres. Jackets, Coyotes, Dys. Winning lottery with 8th best chance would be great.

  63. jonrmcleod says:

    Fourth in the Pacific would look good for prospective UFAs, namely Stamkos. 🙂

  64. AsiaOil says:

    Absolutely – this is not a death march. This is preparation for, and setting the tone for, next season. Guys who lay it on the line this month and play right will be here for the good times starting next season. Guys who don’t – won’t be here.

    Seriously – we just went into Philly and beat down the Flyers who were diving around the ice like a bunch of 3rd rate South American footballers. This team is finally big enough to stand up for itself. Finally.

    frjohnk: 3 points out of 23rd.

    A strong finish will gain respectability and optimism for next year that the team is headed into the right direction.

    I’d rather have that than higher odds at drafting in the top 3

  65. G Money says:

    jonrmcleod:
    Fourth in the Pacific would look good for prospective UFAs, namely Stamkos.

    This is the key. Wins at this point are just lottery-damagers.

    But going on a tear – and when RNH and hopefully Klefbom get back, this team WILL go on a tear – will show prospective UFAs that things really are starting to point up.

  66. Younger Oil says:

    G Money:
    Younger Oil,

    Sorry, but that’s a ridiculous statement.

    The Flyers were gooning it up from pretty early on.

    The PP count finished 7-1 for the Flyers.

    SEVEN
    TO
    ONE.

    The refs ‘controlled’ this game?

    The refs were beyond abysmal.This was one of the worst reffed games I’ve seen, and I’VE BEEN WATCHING THE OILERS ALL SEASON.

    Sorry, I was talking about that one particular call, not the game in its entirety.

    For the rest of the game the refs were ass, but that’s par for the course.

    I just thought how the refs dealt with that last call was fair, as it got rid of probably the two biggest antagonists and diffused the tension rather than escalated it, opposite to what they did for the rest of the game.

  67. Halfwise says:

    JDï™: If you don’t count those two losses, yes.

    And the GA are down.

    More important to my eye, the Give-a-Shit / 60 is way, way up.

  68. BONE207 says:

    Professor Q:
    Also: what is with the Flyers and causing Oilers to go into the end boards? Just saw the Gostisbehere trip on Hall’s goal.

    I hope he cries when McDavid takes his Calder Trophy away.

    Ghost’s is already gone. Panarin and Eichel are in the cross hairs.

  69. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Here’s your weird thought of the day following EDM-PHI,

    Davidson and Gagner are 2 years apart.

    One is just now establishing themselves, one has been in the league 8 seasons.

  70. G Money says:

    Younger Oil: I just thought how the refs dealt with that last call was fair, as it got rid of probably the two biggest antagonists and diffused the tension rather than escalated it, opposite to what they did for the rest of the game.

    Perhaps, but out of that whole sequence, the Oilers ended up shorthanded.

    Fair? After Gudas’ MMA moves on Hall? If he’d connected with that right hook (watch the video I posted), we’d be calling the concussion spotters and mourning another talent lost to long-term injury.

    The only thing that ‘settled’ the situation down is that the Oilers made it clear they weren’t putting up for that garbage, the garbage that was clearly OK by the refs.

    So yes, the rest of the game was garbage – but that non-call on Gudas was probably the most filthy and egregious non-call on the Flyers by the refs in a game overloaded with them.

  71. JDï™ says:

    Halfwise,

    That sure seems to be the case, although it depends on what your definition of ‘Jultzless’ means. I take it as the first game he was benched before the trade.

    Jultzless – Jultzless

    Never never out of control…

  72. StixMalone says:

    JDï™: If you don’t count those two losses, yes.

    StixMalone:
    Hey are we undefeated in the post Jultz era?

    After the trade we are……

  73. Dr. Taboggan says:

    frjohnk,

    The Oilers have also played 2-4 more games than most teams. We still have a pretty good shot at finishing 28/29.

  74. JDï™ says:

    StixMalone:
    After the trade we are……

    The trade returned nothing of value to the team, so that doesn’t make sense.

    The first games he was benched are the start of the Jultzless period, and were not wins.

  75. blainer says:

    With a trade of Ebs and a lottery win of Laine this team will be massive and very hard to play against.

    Hall Nuge Laine

    Poo CMD Maroon/Stamkos

    Kass Drai Yak

    Hendy Yak2 Cracknell/Sleppy

    Klefbom Shattenkirk

    Klef Sekera

    Nurse Pardy/

    Gryba Reinhart

    That is a very big team. Now if we get Stamkos we will have to figure out the cap. but then we would not just be a playoff team but a contender.

  76. Younger Oil says:

    G Money: Perhaps, but out of that whole sequence, the Oilers ended up shorthanded.

    Fair?After Gudas’ MMA moves on Hall?If he’d connected with that right hook (watch the video I posted), we’d be calling the concussion spotters and mourning another talent lost to long-term injury.

    The only thing that ‘settled’ the situation down is that the Oilers made it clear they weren’t putting up for that garbage, the garbage that was clearly OK by the refs.

    So yes, the rest of the game was garbage – but that non-call on Gudas was probably the most filthy and egregious non-call on the Flyers by the refs in a game overloaded with them.

    It was a filthy play by Gudas, and yes, if he connected Hall would be very injured, and Gudas would be in for a lengthy suspension.

    But the bullshit NHL suspends and penalizes only for injury, never for intent, which is a steaming pile of dogshit, but it’s always been that way.

    If the refs called that play like the rest of the game, or many other games, Gudas only gets 2 minutes for roughing, and only Kassian gets the misconduct for being the third man in, giving Gudas free reign when he gets out of the penalty box.

    But the refs made the rare decision to kick the idiot out of the rink. It should be done all the time, but it rarely is, so I’m giving the refs credit for that call, and that call alone.

    If they called it like many other refs, either it’s 5 on 5, where the Flyers just put more goons out, or an Edmonton PP, where they could score, pissing off the Flyers even more and getting the goon back on the ice for the next faceoff.

    Giving the Flyers a PP gets players like Gagner on the ice for the Flyers, and makes them want to score a goal more than get another cheap shot in.

    Now that I think about it though, I’m likely over-analyzing it by thinking the pea brained refs had any of that on their mind when making that call.

  77. G Money says:

    Younger Oil: Now that I think about it though, I’m likely over-analyzing it by thinking the pea brained refs had any of that on their mind when making that call.

    Exactly. I mean, your analysis on its own makes sense – but is also the reverse of the context of the entire game.

  78. OilHub says:

    Thoughts on these lines:
    Hall drai maroon
    Yak McD Egs
    Poo Nuge kas
    Hendo land crack

  79. StixMalone says:

    JDï™: The trade returned nothing of value to the team, so that doesn’t make sense.

    The first games he was benched are the start of the Jultzless period, and were not wins.

    Ok. I don’t count those two cause technically he was still on the team. It doesn’t matter anyhow he can’t Jultz a game away anymore ….

  80. flyfish1168 says:

    Miss the game. Heard just bits of it on the radio. Why were the Flyers after Hall?

  81. G Money says:

    Is anyone else tempted to show the standings – which show the most injured team in the league ahead of the relatively healthy ‘3 #1D’ Calgary Flames, who just lost 6-3 to the Sabres – to any Phlegmite who smugly declared ‘rebuild over’ last season?

  82. Kiltymcbagpipes says:

    Many of us (including myself) have been complaining this team was too soft earlier in the year when our only real tough guy on the ice was Gryba. Now with guys like Kassian, Maroon, Cracknell, Pardy and even Khaira at times it is such a treat to watch us push teams around now instead of always being the bitch. More importantly it makes other guys like Hall for example play bigger as they know they have those guys to defend them.

    I absolutely love the direction this team is going. Bravo PC keep it up.

  83. flyfish1168 says:

    G Money:
    Is anyone else tempted to show the standings – which show the most injured team in the league ahead of the relatively healthy ‘3 #1D’ Calgary Flames, who just lost 6-3 to the Sabres – to any Phlegmite who smugly declared ‘rebuild over’ last season?

    Most F***n Phlegm fan I know say they know all along the were not good. But yeah before the season began it was a different story they were singing.

  84. LoDog says:

    flyfish1168,
    Because oilers.
    It should have been 7 1 pp for the Oilers. Cheap bastards.

  85. Derek says:

    JDï™:
    McDavid conquers Girouxsalem.

    Can’t believe this didn’t get any love. Whats wrong with you people?

  86. Strapping Jocks says:

    Derek: Can’t believe this didn’t get any love.Whats wrong with you people?

    I thought it was awesome!

  87. Double on Tundra says:

    Derek: Can’t believe this didn’t get any love.Whats wrong with you people?

    Puns suck.

  88. Halfwise says:

    Double on Tundra: Puns suck.

    Full marks for irony, right there.

  89. G Money says:

    Hey square_wheels: hear TMc’s post-game? Relentless! Tenacious!

  90. G Money says:

    LoDog:
    flyfish1168,
    Because oilers.
    It should have been 7 1 pp for the Oilers.Cheap bastards.

    I got this wrong. Completely wrong. It was 6-2, not 7-1.

    So … you know… dead even.

    Sorry everyone.

  91. Oilspill says:

    Battling baby! It’s all about turnovers and winning battles. We have less speed. LOL for you number munchers finesse fanatics. This team is rockn and the numbers are a result of the size and play of the team. Good for you Chiarelli! Boo to the doubters.
    The Flyers were INTIMIDATED!

  92. khildahl says:

    G Money,

    Pardy and Davidson had a hell of a game, by eye and by numbers.

    FYI, the y-axis on your (All) shot type and distance chart drops into the negative, if you hadn’t noticed.

  93. G Money says:

    khildahl,

    Yeah, it does that when the numbers get to a wide spread. I think I can control it back to zero.

  94. Oilspill says:

    Numbers are only a reflection of the lines play. What is important is the actual play. Numbers are secondary.

  95. G Money says:

    Oilspill,

    The ‘numbers’ show that McDavid’s and Hall’s lines were basically nuclear weaponry tonight, that Hendricks’ line crushed it, and Korpis line was shit as it usually is, but at least he got a shortie and Talbot bailed his line out a dozen times, so it turns out he actually played really well. [last part dripping with sarcasm for the sarcasm impaired]

    But hey, you’re right, we should ignore that and use your perception of the game as gospel truth. As good as a PVR, no doubt!

  96. Dr. Taboggan says:

    G Money,

    Watch the game nerd.

  97. One-Timer says:

    OilHub:
    Thoughts on these lines:
    Hall drai maroon
    Yak McD Egs
    Poo Nuge kas
    Hendo land crack

    They sound like the members of a South Central gang.

  98. G Money says:

    Dr. Taboggan,

    There was a game on tonight?!?

  99. kooler says:

    Yakimov back? It’s Pardy time!

  100. spoiler says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    G Money,

    Watch the game nerd.

    I hope to Gord this was in jest.

  101. spoiler says:

    Double on Tundra: Puns suck.

    Wrong Pennsylvania team, lol.

  102. Lackadaisical says:

    Bah, I forgot about the game! Am I SOL, or are any of those streams up for a couple days?

  103. Gerta Rauss says:

    Terrific effort all around from the lads

    They’ve got a little momentum and they’re going into Columbus playing with house money

    I’d start LB in net tomorrow

  104. spoiler says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Terrific effort all around from the lads

    They’ve got a little momentum and they’re going into Columbus playing with house money

    I’d start LB in net tomorrow

    Me too.

  105. Ducey says:

    kooler:
    Yakimov back? It’s Pardy time!

    What’s that? Big Yak is back?

  106. Gerta Rauss says:

    Ducey: What’s that? Big Yak is back?

    It’s been a pretty good day overall

  107. StixMalone says:

    Funny thing about the refs in the league is its getting consistent. Babcock went off on them after tonight’s game calling it a joke really upset. We’ll see if he gets any reprimand from league. Classic line: people pay to watch the players not the refs! Haha

  108. russ99 says:

    Hate to kill anyone’s buzz, but other than the disastrous day games in Montreal and DC and a few others, we’ve done well against the East all season.

    Do it on the road in the West and that will be real progress.

    Still, this is a nice building block and we’re playing hockey as a team for the first time since the rebuild started.

  109. Gerta Rauss says:

    Do we know for certain if Yak2 is eligible for the AHL playoffs..?

  110. Professor Q says:

    JDï™:
    McDavid conquers Girouxsalem.

    I like this. Well done!

  111. kooler says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Do we know for certain if Yak2 is eligible for the AHL playoffs..?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Condors/status/705507527048372224

  112. Aron_S says:

    RE: Yakimov

    From what I can tell (and this is from a link from 2012-13, but I don’t think there’s been any changes since then), since it’s not from the NHL roster, there shouldn’t be any issues.

    “The AHL’s trade and loan deadline will be Wednesday, Apr. 10, at 3 p.m. ET. Following the deadline, no player may be acquired via trade between member clubs, and no AHL club may accept a player on loan from a club other than its NHL affiliate.

    The AHL’s playoff roster deadline will be Monday, Apr. 22, at 3 p.m. ET, by which time all 16 playoff teams must submit to the league a list of playoff-eligible players. Only those players on a team’s playoff eligibility list, plus signed draft choices and players signed to amateur tryout contracts, are eligible to compete in the Calder Cup Playoffs. Players from lower professional leagues can also be added if they played in at least eight games in the AHL and/or a lower league in 2012-13.

    AHL Clear Day roster restrictions have been removed. Any eligible player on a club’s roster may participate at any time during the remainder of the regular season and the Calder Cup Playoffs.

    And per National Hockey League rules, only those players who have been recalled from an AHL club following the NHL trade deadline (Wednesday, Apr. 3 at 3 p.m. ET) may be returned to the AHL during the remainder of the season. ”

    Grabbed from here: http://theahl.com/ahl-weekly-release-p182341

  113. Professor Q says:

    kooler,

    That doesn’t really say if he’s qualified for playoffs or not (deadline being a few days ago). Does he get special exemption due to it being an assignment?

    I know he only went went back to try to make the Russian squad.

  114. Professor Q says:

    Aron_S,

    Yikes. Okay.

    Then what was the big deal about the “Deadline” for playoff rosters a few days ago if it’s actually in April?

  115. Aron_S says:

    Professor Q,

    Sorry, ignore the 2013/April dates, as they’re following the lockout season and from three years ago.

    The NHL date applies for any players who are or are not on the NHL roster at the time of the deadline. Hence Khaira, Oesterle, Brossoit and Nurse being sent down and then 25 and LB being immediately recalled.

    SInce Yakimov was never on the NHL roster, this shouldn’t apply to him and he will fall under the other criteria (played in 8 AHL games/is a draft selection). Pretty sure this means if BAK makes the playoffs, he’s eligible to play.

  116. prairieschooner says:

    So it appears that the Oilers are done with threats that go
    “Just wait till our enforcer gets on the ice if your goon happens to be there at the same time and tries anything, well, he will show your goon what for………if he is not working on his skating”
    It is only one game with most of our big guys out there but it looked good, boy did it look good.
    Can you imagine how our skill players felt skating with those guys ?

  117. Ice Sage says:

    Since the Schutzectomy, the Oilers have resembled a team that is turning things around: hustling, winning puck battles, showing different looks (speed, skill, cycle, grind) and getting balanced contributions.

    Just add Nuge and this is a playoff team (next year).

  118. Ryan says:

    Ice Sage:
    Since the Schutzectomy, the Oilers have resembled a team that is turning things around: hustling, winning puck battles, showing different looks (speed, skill, cycle, grind) and getting balanced contributions.

    Just add Nuge and this is a playoff team (next year).

    What about Klefbomb?

  119. Gerta Rauss says:

    Aron_S,

    Thanks

    My concern stemmed from the deadline a couple of days ago regarding players being on the AHL roster as of 3pm Feb29

    I found this:
    For an NHL-contracted player to be eligible for the AHL playoffs, the player must be on the AHL roster as of 3 p.m. Eastern time on the day of the NHL trade deadline.
    Teams often demote players for one day on the trade deadline to secure their AHL playoff eligibility,
    and sometimes, these are paper transactions of which there is no public record (ie. not reported by media or on the AHL’s official website)

    …but yes, you’re correct, this doesn’t/shouldn’t apply to Yakimov because he wasn’t an NHL contracted player

    http://www.nhlfreeagents.com/#!roster-rules-deadline/cdaa

  120. Ice Sage says:

    Ryan: What about Klefbomb?

    Damn, forgot about that ol’ flesh-eaten dream-Swede – yes, he’ll help even more!

  121. JDï™ says:

    Lackadaisical:
    Bah, I forgot about the game!Am I SOL, or are any of those streams up for a couple days?

    It might show up here: http://rutube.ru/video/person/979571/

    Other than that, you’ll have to install koki and the prosports addon. It’s very good, as is the exodus addon.

  122. square_wheels says:

    G Money,

    You figured out the algorithm for measuring that yet ?

    I got to admit, I like what Pardy has brought to the 6th dman role, his ability to pass is notably better than Gryba.

    Nurse is drowning bad now, as soon as Klef returns he has to head to the Condors. If we are drafting A top flight RW then the Hamonic for Ebs trade happens on the draft floor but until then this team is still a RhD D short. Of the playoffs.

    Now, about that Maroon and Kassian gritensity index……

  123. PhrankLee says:

    Other than the 15 min of PK and the entire 2nd period I loved that game.

    They played for each other and that’s a breath of fresh air.

    With Phi hitting 3 posts the score was lopsided. All in all happy AF.

    Not a perfect game by any stretch. I wish they would swap Darnell for GR or even Musil right now. Darnell needs some still water and maybe to carry his own gear to the bus with his team mates and such. You know, play some cards tell fart jokes and insult each other’s parents marital status at their respective births.. Ha ha.

    Clearly in over his head at the moment and the fatigue is really showing in his play. By eye the poor kid made about 4 glaring mistakes that were uncharacteristic. He needs some relief. His brashness goes away when he is in too deep and that edge is a big part of his success as a player. I’d reward him with a break.

  124. spoiler says:

    You can tell from McLellan’s post-game that he and the boys have had a talk about pride recently.

  125. flyfish1168 says:

    Babcock complains to media last evening about reffing. Will be interesting if the league has the intestinal fortitude to fine him or is he bigger than the league.

  126. Professor Q says:

    flyfish1168:
    Babcock complains to media last evening about reffing. Will be interesting if the league has the intestinal fortitude to fine him or is he bigger than the league.

    I wonder if Shanahan has any pull left in the Discipline department?

    I’ve never understood why they fine for complaining/criticising the referees. Shouldn’t that spurn them to look into disciplining the refs/changing or enforcing rules better? Look into issues?

    Bit more. No critique allowed. Refs are flawless.

  127. Adam Wu says:

    Oilspill:
    Battling baby! It’s all about turnovers and winning battles. We have less speed. LOL for you number munchers finesse fanatics….

    Turnovers and won battles contribute pretty directly to possession stats and are therefore among the easiest aspects of the game to capture in the numbers.

  128. square_wheels says:

    Adam Wu,

    Getting punched in the face impacts the game as well, in ways we can’t measure. When the puncher can actually play, the total impact of his game on the rest of the team must have a measurable impact.

    I’ve challenged G to come up with a way to measure this.

    Remember when big George scored the hat trick ? That was awesome. But he could play and that’s a big deal.

    The vid : http://youtu.be/EF2iHqN6eiA

    Deveraux, Laflamme, Bobo Mironov, Hamrlik, 94…..man I loved that era.

  129. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    Professor Q,

    It’s because Refs aren’t allowed to speak to the media, they have no opportunity to defend themselves and the NHL has set things up so that these matters are to be dealt with internally.

    Coaches and GMs have every opportunity to bitch about officiating. Press conferences are not the correct forum.

  130. Adam Wu says:

    square_wheels:
    Adam Wu,

    Getting punched in the face impacts the game as well, in ways we can’t measure. When the puncher can actually play, the total impact of his game on the rest of the team must have a measurable impact.

    If the punch results in the punchee and his team being intimidated and playing worse or more tentative, then their possession stats will fall. If the puncher and/or his team gets an emotional boost from it, then their possession stats will rise.

    The already established strong correlation between possession metrics and balance of play means that anything that directly or indirectly impacts balance of play will inevitably, eventually, be reflected in possession stats.

    The flow-of-play charts should show that if you take note of when the physical plays in question occur, just as we’ve already been doing with goals scored.

  131. G Money says:

    square_wheels,

    Adam Wu,

    I should have mentioned this earlier. It has been studied (multiple times) already.

    Specifically, the flow of the game after a fight. The idea was exactly to look for a boost or a sag effect.

    There was no meaningful change in the flow of the game. If anything, the only thing possibly detected is that the losing team got a little bit worse (the assumption in most studies is that if the fight was a ‘wake up’ type of fight, it was initiated by a player on the team that was losing).

    So if there IS a face punching effect, it is negative.

    These studies are the heart of the whole ‘face punchers don’t matter’ stance that is pretty universal among fancystaters.

    I also agree with Adam. Whatever factor – tangible or intangible – you postulate influences the game, the first place you’ll see it is in the shot metrics. Those are the fastest reacting measurements we’ve got.

    And you can see the effect of last night’s gritensity very clearly in the shot metrics. You can also see it in the score, but a large part of that was Talbot, who was brilliant. If he hadn’t been brilliant, our results bias view of this game would have likely been quite different, whether it was a much closer 4-3 game, or worse, a 5-4 loss.

  132. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Younger Oil: Sorry, I was talking about that one particular call, not the game in its entirety.

    For the rest of the game the refs were ass, but that’s par for the course.

    I just thought how the refs dealt with that last call was fair, as it got rid of probably the two biggest antagonists and diffused the tension rather than escalated it, opposite to what they did for the rest of the game.

    Besides that was Hall who Gudas attempted to decapitate. We all know there’s no penalty for that. Only for the guy who tries to defend him

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