PERFECT

What would it look like? Would we like it? How much pain will there be? Will Jordan Eberle be an Oiler in September? How much money will be spent in free agency? Will Andrew Ference land on LTIR?

PETER CHIARELLI IN HERE COMES SUMMER!!

  1. Top-pairing D to partner with Klefbom (Travis Hamonic or Jason Demers)
  2. Second-pairing D to partner with Sekera (Sami Vatanen or David Savard)
  3. Third-line C if they trade Nuge (a right-hander probable)
  4. Scoring winger if they trade Eberle (Laine, or other)
  5. Offload unwanted contracts (Fayne, Korpikoski)
  6. Backup goalie (could also be a G who slots below Brossoit but has NHL experience)
  7. Re-stock the system (major needs in goal, scoring forwards, looking draft, college CHL FA)

A smart man once told me that the way to build a strong hockey team was to spend the money and resources on:

  • A quality goaltender
  • Four NHL defensemen who had experience, a range of skills, and could play the toughest opposition.
  • Three centers who could impact the game offensively, with two who could play a two-way role.
  • Four wingers (two lines worth) who could play on the scoring lines (two) and impact the game in a complementary role alongside those centers.

The Oilers have some of those things, but how many of them can we be certain of?

  • A quality goaltender? I know many people who do not believe Cam Talbot reaches that level.
  • Four actual NHL defensemen? I buy Andrej Sekera and believe Oscar Klefbom is there, if healthy. After that? I like the trending on Brandon Davidson, but he isn’t there yet. You know who else I count as an actual NHL defenseman? Mark Fayne. So that is three (Sekera, Klefbom, Fayne).
  • Three centers who could impact the game? Yes! Music. We are there.
  • Four wingers who could play on scoring lines. This is a sticky area, one we have glossed over a bit in our zest to make that Eberle-for-Hamonic deal. If we’re honest, the Oilers have three of the four (Hall, Pouliot, Eberle) and an intriguing batch of people trying to win the fourth job now that Teddy Purcell is sunning himself in Sunrise (I would list Patrick Maroon and Nail Yakupov, you may want to have Zack Kassian on the list).

If we take a moment and suspend reality, and assume moving forward that the men in place will in fact deliver in the roles suggested, we get:

  • Cam Talbot—a quality goaltender
  • Four NHL defensemen—Andrej Sekera, Oscar Klefbom, Mark Fayne and Brandon Davidson.
  • Three C’s to impact the game—Connor McDavid, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Leon Drasaitl.
  • Four wingers (two lines worth)—Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Benoit Pouliot, Patrick Maroon

What do you want to improve this summer? And what do you want to tear down. Careful, because if you flush Mark Fayne without a superior option, then you are in fact doing what every Oilers general manager has done since 2006 summer.

 

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  1. Sevenseven says:

    The first pairing rhd is the most important piece for the oilers. If they get two top four d without giving up a centre everyone on this team looks better. The forwards, the goaltenders, everyone. They have to trade a winger imo. Good wingers hit free agency. Good D almost never.

  2. Магия 10 says:

    5. Offload unwanted contracts (Fayne, Korpikoski)

    But bad is the new good. Lauri’s contract can count to the 25% of cap that must be unprotected at the expansion draft and then it expires July 1.

  3. jonrmcleod says:

    Was it a national story last year when 11 or so players made their NHL debuts with the Oilers? No? If I hear one more time about how many Leafs have made their NHL debuts this season….

  4. Gret99zky says:

    Cam Talbot—a quality goaltender
    Four NHL defensemen—Andrej Sekera, Oscar Klefbom, Mark Fayne and Brandon Davidson.
    Three C’s to impact the game—Connor McDavid, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Leon Drasaitl.
    Four wingers (two lines worth)—Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Benoit Pouliot, Patrick Maroon

    Factor in at least league average number of man-games-lost-to-injury and (sad trombone) we finish near bottom of the West again.

    This line-up looks okay on paper, but throw in injuries, playing through injuries, slow starts, slumps, bad reffing, and of course, bad luck and we set the record for consecutive seasons out of the playoffs.

    I want to be wrong but I guessed 84 pts this season and learned the hard way again.

    Nothing Rhymes.

  5. sliderule says:

    Have you ever done “centerfield ” by Fogerty.

    Best rock song ever with a baseball theme.

    The young guys here that probably don’t even know him should listen to words of “Fortunate son”

  6. Diesel says:

    I hope Chiarelli majored in puzzles at Harvard.

  7. Centre of attention says:

    Does Hall+Rienhart get you Berglund+Pietrangelo? That deal gets St Louis ~3.7 million in cap space or something like that, as well as an All-star forward. Its an over pay for the Oilers but your not going to win this trade outright anyways so besides that I can live with Pietrangelo and a 3C upgrade.

    We should still have enough space to squeek in a Demers signing as long as he stays in the 3’s contract wise. I would also sign Pardy to a cheap contract to keep Nurse out of 7D.

    Pouliot-McDavid-Eberle
    Laine-Nuge-Draisatil
    Maroon-Berglund-Kassian
    Hendricks-Letestu-Pakarinen

    Klefbom-Pietrangelo
    Sekera-Demers
    Davidson-Fayne
    Pardy

    Lets say Laine is a max ELC and Demers is 3.5 million with Pardy at 850K. Whats that total salary look like? I’m bad at math. I think that is a playoff roster.

    Thoughts?

    *edit* this would require Korpikoski vanishing into thin air. I think he can be packaged with something to a team trying to reach the cap floor. I would also try and dump Letestu once Kharia/Yakimov start pushing for 4C next year sometime.

  8. frjohnk says:

    Won’t talk about tearing down or trades but adding a quality top 4 D or a top 6 F through UFA would help push the needle.

    Using a 3 rounder and/or prospect to try and pry an upcoming UFA in 2017 from a cap strapped team might be worth looking at doing.

    If we get one of the top picks maybe we trade down and get a good young player and lower pick.

    I listened to part of the show today and if we got the 1st pick and Columbus offered Jones, Jenner and let’s say the 5th I’d do that.

  9. OilClog says:

    East 1. Wash 2. Fla 3. Nyr 4. Pitts 5. Boston 6. Tampa 7. NYI 8. Det

    West 1. Dal 2. LA 3. St. Lou 4. Chi 5. Ana 6. San 7. Nash 8. Col

    Could Fayne crack the top 4 regularly on any of these playoff teams?

    How many?

  10. who says:

    I can follow your math pretty well LT. I think the only place you are stretching the truth a bit is with those four dmen. I’m not sure Fayne or Davidson are the answer for top 4 minutes but I think we could get by with adding 1 top 4 guy and hope one of those two can hold his own. The good news is we got more coming. That top 4 guy is going to cost Eberle plus or Hall but I am okay with that, would prefer the Eberle plus option. Good chance we draft an impact forward this summer and there’s always Yak, if he is still here, to replace a winger going out. Yes I know it is a major downgrade but the winger hole is the easiest to plug.
    I am not advocating trading Fayne, unless he is the plus in an Eberle deal, because I believe we would have to retain half his salary to make it happen and any equal replacement would cost 1.5 to 2 million. So we gain nothing, maybe lose a little, and all we are doing is rearranging deck chairs.

  11. spoiler says:

    Fayne has played the most minutes this year with Sekera and the Hall-Drai-Purcell line. His CF% numbers are much poorer when not playing with the Corsi monster that is that line. That line is about the same without Fayne. Sekera does do notably worse when not with Fayne but some of that reflects the time Sekera spent on the right side, and some reflects the lack of top pairing RH options.

    Fayne might be the best RH option right now, but he’s not really driving any results, IMO, and is getting paid to do so.

    All numbers from:
    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=1406&withagainst=true&season=2015-16&sit=5v5

  12. kinger_OIL says:

    OilClog,

    “Could Fayne crack the top 4 regularly on any of these playoff teams?”

    – Suspect we are “stuck” with him: I’ve asked before: how are his numbers with any of Nurse/ Griff/Davidson? On paper pairing stay-at-home with rooks is good, non?

    – If numbers ok, play Fayne on 3rd line untill deadline, then trade Fayne + for another piece

    – Pieces that move the dial and get some of LT’s 4 D’s/4 winger’s:
    1) Eberle (or of course any of the steve austins), but a D for a winger, still need another winger
    2) First rounder
    3) Nurse +
    4) Cash from Nikitin and Ferrence

    – 1-4 could net you 2+ D, and 1+ “Chia” winger: almost there….

  13. JDï™ says:

    Perfect – Smashing Pumpkins RE?

  14. Stelio Kontos says:

    I think we need either another C or a winger. It depends on drat. It is probably better to move him to the wing, cause then you just need a 3C as opposed to a 2RW.

    Depth Chart Option 1
    Hall RNH Drai
    Pouliot McDavid Eberle
    Maroon XXX Yakupov
    Kassian HopefullyNotLetestu Hendricks
    Slepyshev/XXX

    Depth Chart Option 2
    Pouliot McDavid Yakupov
    Hall Drai XXX
    Maroon RNH Eberle
    Kassian HopefullyNotLetestu Hendrick
    Slepyshev/XXX

    Of course they have to replace anyone who gets moved out. I also wouldn’t mind getting a guy as kassian insurance, and obviously one to get rid of latestu.

  15. Mr DeBakey says:

    spoiler: Fayne might be the best RH option right now, but he’s not really driving any results, IMO, and is getting paid to do so.

    The problem is this still mythical expansion draft.
    It doesn’t make sense to beat your brains out acquiring assets just so a fat juicy plum can be left unprotected a year from now.
    That’s squandering assets.

    Right now i see the best option as adding 1 Top-4 RHD and another – Gryba, Gilbert, Nikita Zaitsev, who isn’t going to cost much in asssets.

  16. spoiler says:

    Mr DeBakey: The problem is this still mythical expansion draft.
    It doesn’t make sense to beat your brains out acquiring assets just so a fat juicy plum can be left unprotected a year from now.
    That’s squandering assets.

    Right now i see the best option as adding 1 Top-4 RHD and another – Gryba, Gilbert, Nikita Zaitsev, who isn’t going to cost much in asssets.

    Hopefully that picture becomes more clear the closer we get to it, but I think more options may appear in the intervening time frame too. That said, my priority is the same as you. I don’t see Demers as being that guy though, as many have put forward. We need a RHer who can run a PP and he’s the 2nd option in Dallas, not the first. Not Hamonic either.

  17. Mustard Tiger says:

    Alright, last one I promise.

    White Stripes/Jack White

  18. JDï™ says:

    April 30th.

    Start visualizing now.

  19. Professor Q says:

    We have some of those things *now*.

    However, the common plan by fans to rid of some of those parts to get some of the other parts.

    Which rids us of some of the needed parts already acquiesced.

    Shifting chairs.

  20. Klima's_Bucket says:

    What if the Oilers actually iced a good enough team that we couldn’t give a sweet fuck all if someone takes someone away in an expansion draft?
    Oh to have that depth in the system.
    But first, we gotta solidify even 8 guys worth protecting.

  21. JDï™ says:

    How many assistant GMs can each team protect?

  22. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Klima’s_Bucket,

    I think the main difference now is that we don’t watch the games on HNIC and a weekly CTV game like we used to. We have full access to every game. And choose to watch them. I live out in BC and can still find every reg season game, full preseason, golden bears and rookie camp.

    Then we also follow AHL and below and have top 100 and more rookies coming up. Even college free agents aren’t a surprise.

    With full access to the knowledge, there aren’t any surprise players sneaking onto the roster anymore. So we all feel like we ‘know’ hem to a degree, so it will hurt extra if we lose one.

    Except Schultz Ference and Niki.

  23. Магия 10 says:

    JDï™:
    How many assistant GMs can each team protect?

    How many assistant GMs do we have to protect?

  24. godot10 says:

    Магия 10:
    5. Offload unwanted contracts (Fayne, Korpikoski)

    But bad is the new good. Lauri’s contract can count to the 25% of cap that must be unprotected at the expansion draft and then it expires July 1.

    Can you provide a source for that?

  25. GCW_69 says:

    OilClog:
    East 1. Wash 2. Fla 3. Nyr 4. Pitts 5. Boston 6. Tampa 7. NYI 8. Det

    West 1. Dal 2. LA 3. St. Lou 4. Chi 5. Ana 6. San 7. Nash 8. Col

    Could Fayne crack the top 4 regularly on any of these playoff teams?

    How many?

    Ignoring the whole right left balance thing:

    Colorado, plus maybe Florida and Boston. That’s about it.

  26. OF17 says:

    One nice thing with keeping Fayne is the cap stipulation with the expansion draft. Imagine having to leave one of the $6 million men on the unprotected list because it was the only way to reach 25%. That’s a nightmare none of us wants to live.

    This damned expansion draft is going to cause all sorts of headaches.

  27. Магия 10 says:

    Mr DeBakey: The problem is this still mythical expansion draft.
    It doesn’t make sense to beat your brains out acquiring assets just so a fat juicy plum can be left unprotected a year from now.
    That’s squandering assets.

    Right now i see the best option as adding 1 Top-4 RHD and another – Gryba, Gilbert, Nikita Zaitsev, who isn’t going to cost much in asssets.

    The mythical 3 for 1 got harder. Who wants more guys to protect?

  28. Магия 10 says:

    godot10: Can you provide a source for that?

    If they did not count then teams with lots of ufas would be potentially losing them plus exposing another 25% of their cap.

    And they actually will be claimable if not protected.

    http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/3/17/11248450/how-does-the-nhl-expansion-draft-work-a-primer

    Unrestricted Free Agents in 2017?

    Well, believe it or not, they can be claimed, too!

    As mentioned in question #1, the expansion draft will take place in June 2017. Under s. 10.1(a)(i) of the current CBA, an unrestricted free agent’s contract is set to expire on June 30. This means, for all intents and purposes, that that player is still a member of the club with which they finished the previous season until July 1.

  29. judgedrude says:

    This is the perfect scenario for a 1 year overpay of a UFA to expose in the expansion draft.

    Lucic at $12M x 1

    Bring him into the fold, enjoy his time with the kids, and then be reasonable post draft.

  30. Магия 10 says:

    judgedrude:
    This is the perfect scenario for a 1 year overpay of a UFA to expose in the expansion draft.

    Lucic at $12M x 1

    Bring him into the fold, enjoy his time with the kids, and then be reasonable post draft.

    Yes. 1 year contracts and trading for players with a year left and imagine non playoff teams renting bad contracts at the deadline.

  31. JDï™ says:

    Магия 10: How many assistant GMs do we have to protect?

    All of them!

    wink

  32. Магия 10 says:

    judgedrude:
    This is the perfect scenario for a 1 year overpay of a UFA to expose in the expansion draft.

    Lucic at $12M x 1

    Bring him into the fold, enjoy his time with the kids, and then be reasonable post draft.

    Mentioned pocket deals with ufas in the last thread. Lots of extensions right after the draft

    With all the loopholes the Vegas Vig will be all cap and no cattle.

    Here’s an idea. Let the Vig negotiate with unprotected UFAs a few days before the draft. Zero GMs will vote for that.

  33. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    This 25 percent of cap rule thing just reeks to me of cap-strapped teams devising yet another way to bend the cap rules

    Overpay for expensive vets for a Cup run and then leave them exposed.

    Say LA goes deep this year and next then leaves that atrocious Dustin Brown contract exposed.

  34. rich says:

    JDï™: All of them!

    wink

    We’re saving them for that 3 for 1 trade (the bag of pucks being the 3rd man in).

  35. OF17 says:

    I think a good strategy for this offseason would be to target the teams likely to protect 4D and try to trade for one of them.

    Would Minnesota rather trade Spurgeon/Dumba/Scandella for non-expansion assets or expose forwards like Zucker and Granlund?

    Does SJ want to protect Burns, Vlasic, Braun, and Dillon/Martin at the expense of Wingels, Ward, Hertl, and Donskoi? Or leave one of Thornton/Marleau unprotected?

    Unfortunately there are not to many teams that might protect 4D rather than 3, but there are a few scenarios in which the expansion draft may lead to more players being available than normal.

  36. Water Fire says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    This 25 percent of cap rule thing just reeks to me of cap-strapped teams devising yet another way to bend the cap rules

    Overpay for expensive vets for a Cup run and then leave them exposed.

    Say LA goes deep this year and next then leaves that atrocious Dustin Brown contract exposed.

    Bang on

    This penalizes good cap management, which distributes quality further down the line up. Which is why I felt uncomfortable with it and commented the owners won’t mind because of the cash.

  37. Магия 10 says:

    OF17:
    I think a good strategy for this offseason would be to target the teams likely to protect 4D and try to trade for one of them.

    Would Minnesota rather trade Spurgeon/Dumba/Scandella for non-expansion assets or expose forwards like Zucker and Granlund?

    Does SJ want to protect Burns, Vlasic, Braun, and Dillon/Martin at the expense of Wingels, Ward, Hertl, and Donskoi? Or leave one of Thornton/Marleau unprotected?

    Unfortunately there are not to many teams that might protect 4D rather than 3, but there are a few scenarios in which the expansion draft may lead to more players being available than normal.

    Godot made a good case to Bruce in the last thread that the 25% rule may result in more 4D teams than you’d think.

    The Vig will get crumbs if trades are allowed post season before the expansion draft. Think LT called for no trades after the trade deadline.

  38. Mustard Tiger says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:

    LA would leave him exposed regardless of such a rule.

  39. Woogie63 says:

    Pitlick and Slepyshev are motoring tonight.

  40. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Woogie63,

    any stream link? onhockey doesn’t have one like it usually does.

  41. Woogie63 says:

    Suntory Hanzo,

    I purchased a package from the AHL…check iTunes

  42. Woogie63 says:

    Slepyshev scores ….6 points in the last 5 games

  43. monsterbater says:

    The thing that keeps getting missed is just because a team doesn’t protect their overpaid players on shitty deals aka the Dustin Browns of the world, doesn’t mean those players get selected. Las Vegas isn’t going to bail all the other teams out. It’d be better for them to pick more players on market value deals and use cap space they have the next year to make trades with cash stamped teams.

  44. Lowetide says:

    4-2 now, Condors on the verge of a nice weekend.

  45. digger50 says:

    I’m convinced Hall must stay, trading him for anyone would be foolish. I also don’t see the net gain in moving Nuge or Ebs as you just have to go looking to replace them.

    How about start with number 5, unload contracts. See how much cap space we have to play with. Think about unloading Fayne and Pouliot for thier 9m.

    Draft a top prospect. Low risk, see how he develops.

    Sign the best free agent d man available.

    Then wait.

    It sounds like opportunities are going to present themselves. The typical rules may change a bit and be ready to take advantage.

    When available, pick up another winger and that second d man.

  46. Suntory Hanzo says:

    4-3 condors.

  47. Lowetide says:

    5-4 Stockton. Condors not tight in third periods.

  48. Suntory Hanzo says:

    7-5 Condors!! crazy!

  49. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Joey Legs with 0 points and a +5

  50. Rondo says:

    Sounds like Ethan Bear is having a good night.

  51. Woogie63 says:

    Condor tie it up , 6 minutes to go

  52. Suntory Hanzo says:

    holy crap…I was following last game! What the heck??? Stupid AHL site!!

    Thanks for correcting Woogie… I was about to say you were off, then checked myself before I wrecked myself.

  53. Kepler62 says:

    All they need is one more Dman who can consistently play over 22 minutes a night – I think his name was Jeff. Jokes aside, I think it takes Klefbom to get Hamonic. Which isn’t even insane, if we face the facts Klefbom has injury problems – he’s possibly my favourite Dman and I’d hate to see him go but I’d rather have Hamonic if Klefbom’s only going to play 50 games a season. Hamonic has a lower cap hit, but only has 4 more years.

    Sekera – Hamonic

    Davidson – Fayne

    Reinhart – Oesterle

    Musil/Gryba

    Nurse is 1st callup – he’s been an absolute non factor since January unless he punches someones face in. AHL seasoning would be best.

  54. Suntory Hanzo says:

    boo.

  55. LostBoy says:

    ‘Kay, I’ve read this blog forever, rarely post, have utmost respect for what’s done here and the incredible, daily, serving up of thoughtful conversation starter. I couldn’t do it, can’t even imagine the effort it takes to craft something like this.

    Obviously there’s a But coming: But, I’ve never disagreed more than with the ongoing drumbeat for Hamonic, Demers, and lately Savard.

    We have guys like that, minus two or three or five years. We have crappy to middling offensive ceiling, two way guys.

    We don’t have anything remotely resembling a serious driver of offense from the D.

    Sure, adding any of Hamonic, Demers, Savard, will instantly help.

    But as ridiculous as it sounds after all these years of abject failure, a lot of that kind of help really is on the way. Those guys all became who they are not that long ago. Klefbom and Davidson are on the cusp of becoming who they’ll be. Nurse, we’ll see, but it could be next year, or the year after that.

    The aching, crying need is offense from the D. Demers is going to solve the PP? The Jason Demers who had 5 PP points all of last year and 5 PP points this year? I don’t get it.

    Giving up Eberle for Hamonic is…insanity. Hamonic is a better RH D than Mark Fayne. But he’s in the same RH D universe as Mark Fayne was at the time he hit UFA, plus 10-odd points of offense.

    Vatanen, yes.

    I’m not objecting to the idea of Hamonic, Demers, Savard, Any one would help (but the idea of giving up Eberle is ridiculous).

    But we have no offense from the D. Almost none. Sekera hitting a shitload of ankles and grinding his way to 30 points is it. We have one of the best sets of skill F in the league, and we have nothing to truly complement them.

    Hamonic, yes.

    Demers, yes.

    Hamonic and Demers, no.

    We have to, have to, have to, add a true, ideally RH, offensive D. Vatanen. Tyson Barrie. Justin Faulk. This is where the give to get is worthwhile. One offense-modest two way minute munching guy who can get it moving in the right direction, fine. But not two. We have a crying need for someone who can actually play offense with the forwards, the guy Schultz was supposed to be.

    /rant off

  56. G Money says:

    LostBoy,

    I mostly agree with you, O Good but Lost Man er Boy!

    Hamonic and Demers would significantly strengthen the ability of the team defensively, but not do a whole lot offensively (though Hamonic actually is pretty decent on the PP, he just doesn’t play there much because they need him so much at EV and on the PK).

    I wouldn’t say it would make no difference offensively, because I think the current D’s inability to retrieve the puck, break cycles, and make headman passes is like tying a lead weight to the ankles of the forwards, so improving that WILL improve the offense.

    That said, I’d still rather see a combo of someone defensive, like Hamonic or Demers, and someone with some offense that can add puck moving and a shot from the point on the PP, like Vatanen or Barrie. (Shattenkirk would be great too, but he’s UFA too quickly and as an American, I doubt he’d re-sign here).

  57. Ryan says:

    LostBoy,

    I also mostly agree with you.

    Adding a Justin Faulk would really mean we’d be cooking with gas–except that I can’t envision a scenario in which he gets traded in the near future.

    Vatanen is a little better on the PP, but Barrie could also really help at 5v5.

    Not a brilliant article per se, but this is a decent summary of RHD potentially available.

    http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/3/13/11217120/a-right-handed-defenseman

  58. G Money says:

    For those that have a rosy view of refs as incompetent but unbiased, here’s an interesting study (courtesy Square_Wheels):

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/ethnic-bias-nhl-refs-1.3497782

    You guys know that since the Feb 6th game against Montreal, Francois St. Laurent has been a particular source of ire for me (not so much because I suspect some ethnicity bias, only because I thought it ludicrous to use a ref from Montreal to ref a Montreal game in Montreal).

    I was incensed enough to change my post game scripts to pull the officiating crew for each game.

    Not sure if he’s posted it here (and I hope I’m not spilling any beans), but I’m delighted that Rex has taken me up on the challenge to actually track the reffing for a few games. Waiting with much anticipation!

  59. hunter1909 says:

    Магия 10: How many assistant GMs do we have to protect?

    There’s one who could probably step into half of the GM jobs in the NHL right now. With twice as many cup wins than Bobby Orr.

    No wonder no player wants to come to Edmonton, the way management gets dissed.

  60. norm_klassen says:

    I feel like after all this time being a team like the oilers have been things could magically just come together. New arena, trades might spark competition and make us strong again. Maybe the new arena is all the team needs. Or we could suck worse then ever… but I feel like with the character in the room we could see improvement, less injuries,some good defense, and maybe just some plain luck. Who knows; this year could be the year the team flips the switch. Or this group will die in obscurity and notoriety. Next season is make or break

  61. RJ2016 says:

    Since most advanced stats proponents think that having a balance between left-handed and right-handed players is important, has anyone ever come up with a website for right-handed players?

    You could do NHL, AHL, CHL, SHL, KHL, etc.

    It would be used by at least a dozen nerdy guys like me.

  62. Dunduress says:

    I definitely agree with those of you who posted above that adding a Hamonic/Demers and a Vatanen/Barrie/some other RH offensive Dman is the best play. However, I believe that some are forgetting about Klefbom when we say “the Oil have no Dman capable of producing a good amount of offence from the D”. Assuming health (big if with Klefbom it would seem) I bet that he can be that Dman that produces a lot back there. He has 12 points in 30 games this year, or 32.8 points per 82 and this is without a significant PP push if I recall correctly (and correct me if I am wrong).

    My point is that Klefbom is looking like a very good Dman offensively as well as defensively, but that I also agree that we should be adding a 2 way RH and a more offensive Dman. I’m just simply acknowledging that Edmonton may have one Dman who can help the offence already, while also acknowledging that we could use more. Thanks for reading 🙂

  63. Professor Q says:

    godot10: Can you provide a source for that?

    Here is one (I actually can’t find the original article I had seen it in, which was a Sportsnet/NHL/TSN type source):

    http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/03/16/in-expansive-outcome-oilers-mcdavid-nurse-would-be-protected-should-nhl-bring-las-vegas-quebec-city-on-board-in-two-years

    And another:

    http://eyesonisles.com/2016/03/19/new-york-islanders-expansion-draft-outlook/

  64. spoiler says:

    LostBoy:
    ‘Kay, I’ve read this blog forever, rarely post, have utmost respect for what’s done here and the incredible, daily, serving up of thoughtful conversation starter.I couldn’t do it, can’t even imagine the effort it takes to craft something like this.

    Obviously there’s a But coming: But, I’ve never disagreed more than with the ongoing drumbeat for Hamonic, Demers, and lately Savard.

    We have guys like that, minus two or three or five years.We have crappy to middling offensive ceiling, two way guys.

    We don’t have anything remotely resembling a serious driver of offense from the D.

    Sure, adding any of Hamonic, Demers, Savard, will instantly help.

    But as ridiculous as it sounds after all these years of abject failure, a lot of that kind of help really is on the way.Those guys all became who they are not that long ago.Klefbom and Davidson are on the cusp of becoming who they’ll be.Nurse, we’ll see, but it could be next year, or the year after that.

    The aching, crying need is offense from the D.Demers is going to solve the PP?The Jason Demers who had 5 PP points all of last year and 5 PP points this year?I don’t get it.

    Giving up Eberle for Hamonic is…insanity.Hamonic is a better RH D than Mark Fayne.But he’s in the same RH D universe as Mark Fayne was at the time he hit UFA, plus 10-odd points of offense.

    Vatanen, yes.

    I’m not objecting to the idea of Hamonic, Demers, Savard,Any one would help (but the idea of giving up Eberle is ridiculous).

    But we have no offense from the D.Almost none.Sekera hitting a shitload of ankles and grinding his way to 30 points is it.We have one of the best sets of skill F in the league, and we have nothing to truly complement them.

    Hamonic, yes.

    Demers, yes.

    Hamonic and Demers, no.

    We have to, have to, have to, add a true, ideally RH, offensive D.Vatanen.Tyson Barrie.Justin Faulk.This is where the give to get is worthwhile.One offense-modest two way minute munching guy who can get it moving in the right direction, fine.But not two.We have a crying need for someone who can actually play offense with the forwards, the guy Schultz was supposed to be.

    /rant off

    Demers as any kind of solution to the PP is highly misguided IMO. Faulk, Vatanen something along these lines is what’s required. Posted the same last night.

  65. Frank the dog says:

    Do we have an otherwise healthy team ruined by a horrible schedule, terrible travel and biased reffing, or do we have a knack of collecting injury prone players?
    I suspect this team may have had entirely different results had we suffered league average or less injuries, and had those injuries been to our 5’s and 6’s rather than our top players.
    Perhaps the Kassians, Maroons, Grybas Pardys and Nurses we are collecting all make it less tempting for teams to Regehr our Hemskys, but if the league ias I suspect actually exists, the only way we’ll wn a cup is to move south of the border.

  66. godot10 says:

    Kepler62:
    All they need is one more Dman who can consistently play over 22 minutes a night – I think his name was Jeff. Jokes aside, I think it takes Klefbom to get Hamonic.Which isn’t even insane, if we face the facts Klefbom has injury problems – he’s possibly my favourite Dman and I’d hate to see him go but I’d rather have Hamonic if Klefbom’s only going to play 50 games a season.Hamonic has a lower cap hit, but only has 4 more years.

    Sekera – Hamonic

    Davidson – Fayne

    Reinhart – Oesterle

    Musil/Gryba

    Nurse is 1st callup – he’s been an absolute non factor since January unless he punches someones face in. AHL seasoning would be best.

    Except Hamonic is injury prone also.

  67. square_wheels says:

    G Money,

    Until the Wings signed Green they were employing a D core that had somewhat meh offence, it didn’t seem to impact their ability to make the playoffs.

    I’d love to have a D that is competent defensively but drives offence, but that’s called a #1. As long as we don’t overpay Demers, landing him and Hamonic will provide a significant net improvement to this team – are we going to complain about that ??

    Now, what do we do about being the 5th lowest GF team ? Are we 100% certain this top 9 can score at mid/high rates when we improve the D and Eberle is not our top RW ?

    Rob Peter to pay Paul……..Lordy this team causes me more stress than our puppy.

  68. rickithebear says:

    A first pairing d is all but bullshit.
    Except for Lidstrom and klefbom who have shown to cover the 5.
    Comp, hsca, pkga, evp/60, ppp/60

    You have to state what units you want oto cover.
    Getting strong groups of 2 of 5 units builds strong d.
    Groups of 3 are rare.

    Comp,hsca,pkga

    Comp,hsca,evp/60

    Comp, Evp/60, Ppp/60
    Shite def make them non championship
    I refer to them as christmas trees.
    All brite, expensive and norris pretty.
    Problem is they are lit-up around their net.

    Hsca,pkga,
    makes them a lower comp champioship calibre def D (Davidson)

    Hsca, Evp/60 or Ppp/60
    Lower comp def d, upper offensive driver (Sekera)

  69. rickithebear says:

    Christmas tree D are real popular here!
    Subban, Faulk…..

  70. BONVIE says:

    The time to close in on the Winnipeg Jets and obtain Tyler Myers is now. They have spent their cash on Buff already and they have Enstrom, Trouba, and Stuart. These Jets are hurting for some offense, we have some chips and we have that lottery pick that these fellow bottom feeders should be interested in as well. Close this deal and get the guy that will fill all of the holes on D with one transaction.

  71. Pechetr says:

    Mr DeBakey,

    Ask yourself what is more important…..This team making the playoffs or protecting an asset? You cannot let the “possible” expansion draft deter you from building a contender.

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