HOUSE CALLS

Before the trades, before the unrestricted free-agent shopping, the Edmonton Oilers have a pile of their own free agents to make decisions on. Here is a quick look at the Oilers group.

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THE NHL WINGERS (RFA DIVISION)

  • R Zack Kassian. $1.75M. 36GP, 3-5-8 114PIMS. 1.12 5×5/60. I like his physical play and the fact he has 234 NHL games, and he is 25 so could hang around awhile. On the other hand, he didn’t deliver much offensively. How many wingers who don’t score can one team have?
  • R Iiro Pakarinen. $817,500. 63GP, 5-8-13 8PIMS. 1.15 5×5/60. I like his responsible play, he now has 80 NHL games. I feel like he is slightly more responsible without the puck than Kassian and I am pretty sure Todd McLellan loves him.
  • L Luke Gazdic. $800,000. 29GP, 1-0-1 24PIMS. 0.32 5×5/60. He is 26 and from what we can tell wildly popular with the team. McLellan didn’t seem impressed with that angle and Gazdic is in a bit of trouble as an Oiler (is my guess).

THE NHL WINGERS (UFA DIVISION)

  • R Adam Cracknell. $575,000. 52GP, 5-5-10 20PIMS. 1.02 5×5/60. All of these numbers include his time with Vancouver. I like him as a fringe roster player, but as mentioned above you can’t keep all of these guys.
  • R Rob Klinkhammer $725,000. 14GP, 1-0-1 6PIMS. 0.46 5×5/60. Speedy winger couldn’t score enough to stay in the NHL (six goals in his last 82 NHL games). Might be a consideration in the AHL veteran role, he can certainly post offense there (14 goals in 27 games).

Who would I keep if only one of these men were to return? Iiro Pakarinen. For me, his speed is the difference and he is versatile. The one danger (McLellan likes him more than I do) is real, but coaches always have their favorites. If the Oilers have the roster room to add a second winger (behind Pakarinen), I would pick Kassian over Cracknell. Price point would be an issue though, Cracknell isn’t going to cost much and he delivered about as much offense as Kassian (and Pakarinen).

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THE NHL DEFENSEMEN (RFA DIVISION)

  • Jordan Oesterle. $767,500. 17GP, 0-5-5 0PIMS. 0.82 5×5/60. 48.05 Corsi For 5×5 Percentage. I really liked his play, bet the Oilers waste little time in signing him to a contract. The bigger problem is finding a way to get him on the roster. I think he could be the second recall this fall, maybe first recall if the Oilers decide Reinhart needs to spend more time on the farm.
  • Adam Clendening. $761,250. 20GP, 1-5-6 10PIMS. 1.26 5×5/60. 46.75 Corsi For 5×5 Percentage. He is probably too slow and he didn’t do anything for the power play, but that 5×5 number really does catch your eye. Lack of speed kills NHL careers.

THE NHL DEFENSEMEN (UFA DIVISION)

  • Nikita Nikitin. $4.5 million. 11GP, 0-1-1 8pims. 0.39 5×5/60 53.27 Corsi For 5×5 Percentage. The Russian had two years of back spasms (or something) and his wheels could not turn. I refrained from calling him Creeque Alley the whole time. I am maturing.
  • Eric Gryba. $1.25 million. 53GP, 1-5-6 75pims. 0.55 5×5/60. 49.44 Corsi For 5×5 Percentage. He was basically even CorsiRel and all things being equal he is a player I would invite back—but, with Mark Fayne also on the roster one doubts the Oilers go this way. If Fayne is traded, suspect Gryba gets an offer from Edmonton.
  • Adam Pardy. $1.0 million. 9GP, 0-3-3 6PIMS. 1.17 5×5/60. 50.65 Corsi For 5×5 Percentage. I like him in an Andy Sutton kind of way, but Edmonton’s LHD should be solid to very good next year. As a seventh man? Sure, but Edmonton has a bunch of those guys.
  • Brad Hunt. $600,000. 7GP, 0-0-0 2PIMS. 0.00 5×5/60. 48.68 CorsiFor 5×5 Percentage. The author of an epic gif, he always reminded me of those old timey AAA ballplayers like Jim Breazeale. The manager would keep him on the bench all year waiting for a situation where he could be sure the pitcher had to throw fastballs. Hunt is a superstar offensive defenseman in the AHL, but can’t play defense. His 21 NHL games are a little shy of Breazeale’s 89, but they both got about 325 at-bats.

The first guy from this group I would sign is Oesterle. Although he is a lefty, the speed he possesses is a real weapon offensively and defensively. He is coming from a long way back defensively (early pro reports were not strong) but he should have a long career based on those wheels. Oesterle could be a regular for a decade in this league if he can figure out the defense, and that speed on offense should get him some points. After that, I like Gryba for the Fayne spot if they move him, and my feelings on the rest range from somewhat indifferent (Clendening, Pardy) to train wreck curious (Nikitin). How many defensive careers has this team ended in the last decade? 100?

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MINOR LEAGUERS (RFA)

  1. D David Musil $894,166. 65GP, 3-11-14. Three straight solid seasons in the AHL and it looks like another is on the way. I would be tempted to deal him (say, for Taylor Aronson or Alexander Khokhlachev) to cull the LHD. Currently, I would rank Musil behind Sekera, Klefbom, Davidson, Nurse, Oesterle, Reinhart. After Musil, lefties on the pro roster include Dillon Simpson, Joey Laleggia, Ben Betker. Good lord, that is 10 LHD (there is one RHD on the pro roster next year—Mark Fayne).
  2. R Tyler Pitlick $761,250. 37GP, 7-14-21. Another injury season for this young man (he is 24, young enough to have a career). Part of me thinks the Oilers should let him get a fresh start in another organization. Another part of me thinks that his competition this fall (Pakarinen, etc) is not so strong he would have no chance at all. Intriguing decision ahead.
  3. G Niklas Lundstrom $655,823. 4GP, 3.90 .872. Chosen 50 spots before Frans Tuohimaa in the 2011 entry draft. Lundstrom is probably the easiest call among this year’s free agents.
  4. L Kale Kessy $630,000. 55GP, 7-5-12. He is 23 and has 126 AHL games (12 goals), and those totals are about what Mitch Moroz has posted in the AHL (106, 10). I am not sure how many of these player-types are required, but with so little skill on the AHL roster, this may be an easy decision.

MINOR LEAGUERS (UFA)

  1. L Ryan Hamilton $600,000. 60GP, 20-13-33. Hamilton has been a good soldier for Edmonton and had another strong season. He turns 32 in August, and may receive another deal from the Oilers (they have shown a preference for maxing out on minor league veterans and playing them in prominent roles).

I think you can make a case for Edmonton dealing some and passing on signing the rest. If I could sign only one, it would be David Musil. He could provide solid defense in Bakersfield and perhaps receive a callup—although the competition is fierce.

AHL CONTRACTS

  1. L Josh Winquist 35GP, 8-22-30. At 22, he is probably the best offensive prospect in the AHL currently—but he does not have an NHL contract. In his last 82 AHL games, Winquist is 16-33-49 (NHLE: 26 points).
  2. R Josh Currie 52GP, 10-14-24. At 23, he forced his way into the lineup and played very well. Can also play center.
  3. C Marco Roy 41GP, 8-12-20. Began slowly, but fought his way up the depth chart and emerged as a solid option. NHLE (21 points) suggests he has some offense and he does have some two-way chops.

From this group, I would like to see Josh Winquist signed. He has shown impressive offensive ability and auditioned for two seasons—no idea if it will be enough but he has earned the contract in my opinion.

PROJECTED 50-MAN LIST FOR 2016-17 (39)

From the list above, I am projecting Iiro Pakarinen, Zack Kassian, Jordan Oesterle, David Musil and Josh Winquist as the local adds.

  1. G Cam Talbot. No. 1 next season.
  2. G Laurent Brossoit. Projects as NHL backup/AHL starter, signed a two-year deal.
  3. G Nick Ellis: I believe he will see a lot of action in Bakersfield.
  4. G Eetu Laurikainen, AHL backup, he is signed for next year.
  5. D Oscar Klefbom, likely top pairing, needs to stay healthy.
  6. D Andrej Sekera, top 4D, important part of the team.
  7. D Brandon Davidson, top 6D, maybe even top 4D if he continues on current track.
  8. D Mark Fayne, I question Oilers ability to find three better RH this summer.
  9. D Darnell Nurse, probably top 6D next season, ideally in Bakersfield.
  10. D Griffin Reinhart, may spend another year in the minors. Could be dealt.
  11. D Andrew Ference, they will buy him out (if able). LTIR is my guess.
  12. D Jordan Oesterle, I think he is going to see NHL action in 2016-17.
  13. D David Musil. AHL D with some NHL ability, very difficult road ahead.
  14. D Dillon Simpson, AHL D, closing the gap.
  15. D Joey Laleggia, AHL D matriculating.
  16. D Ben Betker, AHL D, matriculating.
  17. C Connor McDavid, Giant.
  18. C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, quality NHL center.
  19. C Leon Draisaitl, emerging NHL talent.
  20. C Mark Letestu, checking NHL C.
  21. C Anton Lander, they may find a buyer.
  22. C Jujhar Khaira, he is a good bet to make the roster in the fall.
  23. C Bogdan Yakimov, a chance he comes back. Has NHL tools, speed concern.
  24. C Kyle Platzer, AHL C matriculating.
  25. L Taylor Hall, impact NHL player. Many fans want him gone.
  26. L Benoit Pouliot, underrated by many. Trade rumors.
  27. L Patrick Maroon, big winger has been exceptional since arrival.
  28. L Lauri Korpikoski, Oilers should try to offload him this summer.
  29. L Matt Hendricks, checking NHL W.
  30. L Jere Sallinen, you can never have too many Finns.
  31. L Josh Winquist. AHL scorer, working toward NHL opportunity.
  32. L Mitch Moroz, AHL winger/enforcer, matriculating.
  33. L Braden Christoffer, rugged winger, matriculating.
  34. R Jordan Eberle, scoring winger could be in play.
  35. R Nail Yakupov, gone baby, gone.
  36. R Iiro Pakarinen, suspect he will play a significant role again next year.
  37. R Zack Kassian, probably part of the future in a top 9F role.
  38. R Anton Slepyshev, talented winger should push for NHL time.
  39. R Greg Chase, minor league winger, matriculating.

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43 Responses to "HOUSE CALLS"

  1. frjohnk says:

    “From the list above, I am projecting Iiro Pakarinen, Zack Kassian, Jordan Oesterle, David Musil and Josh Winquist as the local adds.”

    I agree with that.

    I like Gryba as well, but cant have Fayne and him on the roster.

    I think Id sign Klinkhammer for a NHL depth/AHL vet role But he would be the only one. Let the kids play.

    Marco Roy is someone who looks like he has bounced back somewhat. Not big, but not small and really good wheels.

  2. Ducey says:

    I’m confused. Why can’t they keep both Gryba and Fayne?

    Gryba can be the 7th D.

    Sekera – new guy
    Klefbom – Fayne
    Davidson – new guy
    Gryba

    AHL Nurse Reinhart Oesterle Musil

    You need 10 D to get thru the season. When (not if) any of the RH D go down with injury, they have big hole again without Gryba

  3. Lowetide says:

    Ducey:
    I’m confused. Why can’t they keep both Gryba and Fayne?

    Gryba can be the 7th D.

    Sekera – new guy
    Klefbom – Fayne
    Davidson – new guy
    Gryba

    AHL Nurse Reinhart Oesterle Musil

    You need 10 D to get thru the season. When (not if) any of the RH D go down with injury, they havebig hole again without Gryba

    I don’t think they will. That is different than saying they can’t.

  4. digger50 says:

    Chia has shown his cards in regards to Kassian and Gryba, or at least I believe he has. They are in. McClellan has shown his cards in regards to Fayne just going by utilization. Also telling was a comment by Chia in regards to going forward with young defence which we could assume means Klef, Nurse, Davidson and Rienhart. Maybe Osterle makes the cut there.

    IF, IF these assumptions are correct, the intention is to add two righties and Fayne would be out, the young fellows representing a strong future. I hope the two righties are coming, that’s exactly what I want to hear.

  5. Madtown Oil says:

    I would keep Klink. That 4th line of Klink/BGord/Hend last year did a lot of heavy lifting. On more than a few nights this year I was wishing for it back.

    Kass would be good at 1.25 M….not 1.75 or more. I do like that he has speed to go with size.

  6. Melman says:

    Ducey,

    Only prob with Gryba as your 7th is cost. You could likely get Pardy (or another) for $800k+ less

  7. Wolf Of Ross St says:

    digger50,

    Me personally, I’m not a big Fayne fan. But as LT has pointed out he can be effective.
    If there are better players coming in & there is a deal out there that makes, Godspeed young Fayne.
    Need depth but that is one very expensive 6-7 RhD.
    Off topic;
    Competing for a playoff spot next year and coming up short is not acceptable.
    How many points better are the Oilers this season if all skaters are healthy?
    10-13pts?
    What has to change this summer to improve 18-20pts?
    Hamonic in & Eberle out is not going to cut it.
    I wait….
    I mean We wait.

  8. frjohnk says:

    Looking at that 39 man list.

    We have 1 skilled right handed shooter, EBERLE. I understand the decision to want to trade him for a Dman but then we have peanuts for skilled right shots.

    In the last 3 years, EBERLE has the 14th highest points/60 on the PP for right shot forwards at 4.9 pts/60.

    So I was looking at some UFA replacements. ( Just PP pts)
    Backes is 18th at 4.67 pts/60
    Vrbata is 19th at 4.66 pts/60
    Okposo who wants $7M, is 22nd at 4.49 pts/60

    Or we could always use the good ol in house option.

    Letestu is 21st at 4.56 pts/60.

    Maybe if we don’t get a skilled forward, we should try Letestu on McDavids wing. 🙂

  9. godot10 says:

    Melman:
    Ducey,

    Only prob with Gryba as your 7th is cost.You could likely get Pardy (or another) for $800k+ less

    Injuries happen on the defense. One needs to be 10 defensemen deep. Gryba is way better than Pardy. And Musil is probably better than Pardy (and cheaper). Pardy and Clendenning showed very little.

    This is why Musil is a useful player. He will be cheap. He will be a tweener. He can be called up to play 3rd pairing in a pinch and not embarrass himself, and when he is not, he is grooming and mentoring the AHL D on the fast track.

    Klefbom, XXX
    Sekera, YYY
    Nurse, Davidson
    Gryba (or Fayne if he can’t be traded). Fayne also stays if two D (XXX and YYY) cannot be acquired.

    #8-10 then are Reinhart, Osterle, and Musil

    10 deep on the D.

  10. Lowetide says:

    frjohnk:
    Looking at that 39 man list.

    We have 1 skilled right handed shooter, EBERLE.I understand the decision to want to trade him for a Dman but then we have peanuts for skilled right shots.

    In the last 3 years, EBERLE has the 14th highest points/60 on the PP for right shot forwards at 4.9 pts/60.

    So I was looking at some UFA replacements. ( Just PP pts)
    Backes is 18th at 4.67 pts/60
    Vrbata is 19th at 4.66 pts/60
    Okposo who wants $7M, is 22nd at 4.49 pts/60

    Or we could always use the good ol in house option.

    Letestu is 21st at 4.56 pts/60.

    Maybe if we don’t get a skilled forward, we should try Letestu on McDavids wing. :)

    I think Eberle may have saved himself in two ways. One, the shorter contract means there is less value in acquiring him. Second, he scored very well with McDavid. Maroon-McDavid-Eberle worked.

  11. Glass says:

    I’d like to see a couple LHD culled from the roster. Two of Oesterle, Reinhart, Simpson or Musil should go. We desperately need RHD prospects because Ethan Bear & John Marino are the only ones we have. Draft one or two RHD, bring back another as part of a package of a bigger deal and we’re set.

    Assuming we acquire a first & second pairing RHD.

  12. frjohnk says:

    Lowetide: I think Eberle may have saved himself in two ways. One, the shorter contract means there is less value in acquiring him. Second, he scored very well with McDavid. Maroon-McDavid-Eberle worked.

    The alternative to keeping EBERLE is that 1 of Nuge or Hall will be gone for a D man. These two would bring back more value.

    If the value is there, I’d trade the pick first. Even if it’s 1st overall. Could we somehow get Faulk AND Hamonic with the 1st?

    I’d love to see what all the oilers forwards could do with 4 top 4 Dmen.

  13. Jethro Tull says:

    Fayne is not ‘effective’. To be that, you have to be able to cause an effect.

    What he is, is a bona fide NHL #4 and lower D-man. I’m aware that he was #2 in NJ, but I think that by now we know who was driving that pairing.

    He’s consistent, doesn’t make too many mistakes, won’t hurt you too bad. But he’s purely by rote.

    He’s possibly one of the most ‘meh’ players out there. He’s a helmet filler. And that’s not a bad thing.

  14. Hockey Buddha says:

    frjohnk,

    Trouble with trading the first pick is getting back equal value. If you can do it, fine. But it is difficult to accomplish. I think you almost always, almost inevitably, lose that trade.

  15. frjohnk says:

    Hockey Buddha:
    frjohnk,

    Trouble with trading the first pick is getting back equal value.If you can do it, fine.But it is difficult to accomplish.I think you almost always, almost inevitably, lose that trade.

    Tampas offer for Ekblad was substantial. Vasilesky, Droiun, and 19th overall.

    Friedman figures Arizona would offer Strome, 7th overall plus for 1st.

    Matthews will be enticing for teams who do not have a number 1 center or lack depth.

    I bet Columbus, Carolina, Arizona, Winnipeg might offer nice packages for Matthews.

    But that’s if we pick 1st.

    If we are picking 5th it’s a different story.

  16. bbf_iii says:

    From Copper and Blue:

    Digging into the 25-game Stretch When the Oilers Had Decent Possession Numbers: http://www.coppernblue.com/2016/4/16/11442968/digging-into-the-25-game-stretch-when-the-oilers-had-decent-Corsi

    “This season, the Oilers posted a Corsi For% of 43% when Korpikoski was on the ice, with that number rocketing up to a respectable 50%(!!) when Korpikoski was on the bench.”

    Obviously, this couldn’t have been the only factor, but it is still mighty interesting.

  17. Stelio Kontos says:

    bbf_iii:
    From Copper and Blue:

    Digging into the 25-game Stretch When the Oilers Had Decent Possession Numbers: http://www.coppernblue.com/2016/4/16/11442968/digging-into-the-25-game-stretch-when-the-oilers-had-decent-Corsi

    “This season, the Oilers posted a Corsi For% of 43% when Korpikoski was on the ice, with that number rocketing up to a respectable 50%(!!) when Korpikoski was on the bench.”

    Obviously, this couldn’t have been the only factor, but it is still mighty interesting.

    McDavids playing time increase is nearly identical slope to korpishitty over that time. Just found that funny.

  18. Hockey Buddha says:

    frjohnk: Tampas offer for Ekblad was substantial. Vasilesky, Droiun, and 19th overall.

    Friedman figures Arizona would offer Strome, 7th overall plus for 1st.

    Matthews will be enticing for teams who do not have a number 1 center or lack depth.

    I bet Columbus, Carolina, Arizona, Winnipeg might offer nice packages for Matthews.

    But that’s if we pick 1st.

    If we are picking 5th it’s a different story.

    It will be interesting to see how the draft lottery shakes out. Personally, I would love it if Edmonton landed the first, but I’m far from expecting it. I’d be extremely happy to be picking anywhere in the top 3. Matthews is the consensus no. 1, but he might not be the best player in the draft. We’ll have to wait and see on that. I think Edmonton should be off to the races after this summer, if Chiarelli is as good as I think he is, but we’ll have to wait and see how it all unfolds. I don’t expect miracles from Chia, but he’s got a ton of assets, and a way better opportunity than any of his predecessors to make something productive happen.

    I’ve been ever-hopeful since 2006 that this team was going to turn around, however. So I’m admitting up front that I have a decade behind me of making wrong predictions about my team. I’ve even got a $50 bet that Edmonton will win the cup again before the Habs. Completely unwaivering stubborn, stupid, blind-love for this team.

  19. PeOiler says:

    A strong personal bias has me rooting for Josh Currie to show well next year. Love that guy. What a beauty.

    Go (Charlottetown) Islanders!

  20. Hockey Buddha says:

    PeOiler,

    Love the Island. I could live there in a heartbeat. My wife grew up there.

  21. "Steve Smith" says:

    Hockey Buddha,

    Can we agree that, if we wind up picking fifth, we will whine about our shitty luck until Toronto fans’ heads explode?

    (In this scenario, I expect that the Leafs would be picking fourth.)

  22. Centre of attention says:

    If the Oilers won the lottery, I would take a package of Dylan Strome, Michael Stone, and Arizonas first rounder for Matthews.

    No idea if Arizona does it but that would be my price. Take it or leave it.

  23. Jaxon says:

    Re-sign 6 Players:
    Kassian (under $2M) – like what he brings and he has potential to be offensive
    Pakarinen (under $1M) – love this player and he is a hit and shot machine
    Oesterle (under $1M) – speedy and may be a valuable trade asset
    Gryba ($1.25M) – veteran insurance on RD
    Pardy ($1M) – veteran insurance on LD
    Musil (under $1M) – responsible D may be a valuable trade asset

    Add 1 AHL Contract:
    Winquist (under $1M) – deserves the shot

    Let Other 10 Contracts go. Consider Roy, Pitlick.

  24. Jaxon says:

    6 Assets/Contracts to trade 1-to-1:
    Yakupov – to Washington for Madison Bowey
    Davidson – to Buffalo for Mark Pysyk
    Korpikoski – to Columbus for Kerby Rychel
    Musil, Oesterle or Simpson – to Washington for Riley Barber
    Moroz, Chase or Platzer – to Buffalo for Justin Bailey or Nicholas Baptiste
    Caleb Jones – to Columbus for Michael Paliotta

    Add 2 UFA Contracts:
    Jason Demers
    Chad Johnson

    Keep the Lottery Pick. It will be a high quality, cheap contract for 3 years and won’t be exposed in an expansion draft. That is gold in Salary cap / Expansion era.

    Lowetide’s 39 Contracts
    +2 more Local signs than Lowetides (Gryba & Pardy)
    +1 Caleb Jones not yet under contract so Paliotta is an additional contract.
    +2 UFA contracts
    +1 Lottery Draft Pick Entry Level

    Possibly Paigin and/or Bear
    = 45 to 47 Contracts.

  25. Caramel Batman says:

    Jaxon:
    6 Assets/Contracts to trade 1-to-1:
    Yakupov – to Washington for Madison Bowey
    Davidson – to Buffalo for Mark Pysyk
    Korpikoski – to Columbus for Kerby Rychel
    Musil, Oesterle or Simpson – to Washington for Riley Barber
    Moroz, Chase or Platzer – to Buffalo for Justin Bailey or Nicholas Baptiste
    Caleb Jones – to Columbus for Michael Paliotta

    Add 2 UFA Contracts:
    Jason Demers
    Chad Johnson

    Keep the Lottery Pick. It will be a high quality, cheap contract for 3 years and won’t be exposed in an expansion draft. That is gold in Salary cap / Expansion era.

    That is an interesting combination of awful trades for the Oilers (Davidson for Pysyk) and ridiculous trades that are too good to be true for the Oiler s(Korpikoski for Rychel).

    It’s almost like you don’t know what you are talking about.

  26. godot10 says:

    Centre of attention:
    If the Oilers won the lottery, I would take a package of Dylan Strome, Michael Stone, and Arizonas first rounder for Matthews.

    No idea if Arizona does it but that would be my price. Take it or leave it.

    If Arizona’s pick is #2, I might do that. Not if it is out of the top five. Isn’t Connor Murphy better than Michael Stone? I don’t think Strome is a good fit for the OIlers who won’t have room to develop him properly.

    I want a much better D for Matthews. #1 for Murphy and #2. I might do that. #1 for Murphy, Rieder and #3. I might do that. I wouldn’t be willing to move further down the draft board without a much better D coming back than Murphy or Stone.

    But I think other teams will offer much more impactful D.

    Heck. Offer the pick (and Fayne or Reinhart) to Winnipeg for Trouba and their 1st and 2nd. Turn Matthews into Trouba and Chychrun (and a pick for compensation to Boston for Chiarelli).

  27. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Jaxon,

    Not trying to be a dink but please come up with some new material.
    You have been copying and pasting these moves for far too long.
    I’d appreciate some of your opinions on something else.
    Cheers!

  28. John Chambers says:

    godot10: If Arizona’s pick is #2, I might do that.Not if it is out of the top five.Isn’t Connor Murphy better than Michael Stone?I don’t think Strome is a good fit for the OIlers who won’t have room to develop him properly.

    I want a much better D for Matthews.#1 for Murphy and #2.I might do that.#1 for Murphy, Rieder and #3.I might do that.I wouldn’t be willing to move further down the draft board without a much better D coming back than Murphy or Stone.

    But I think other teams will offer much more impactful D.

    Heck.Offer the pick (and Fayne or Reinhart)to Winnipeg for Trouba and their 1st and 2nd.Turn Matthews into Trouba and Chychrun (and a pick for compensation to Boston for Chiarelli).

    I doubt Arizona values Matthews that highly where they’d be willing to trade two high quality prospects AND their 1st Rd selection just to move up a few spots.

    My guess is that Tambellini actively listened to offers on both the RNH and Yakupov picks but was unable to land a combination of a top defender + another top-10 pick or top-flight prospect.

    Trading down from 1 to 7 with Strome coming this way seems objectively fair. Demanding Murphy or Stone would require the Oilers adding more value, perhaps in the form of Yakupov or the 32nd OV AND Lagesson or Musil.

  29. Stelio Kontos says:

    It wouldn’t be terrible to trade down and get one of the D (say chychrun). They would be cap bargains on defence, when the forward cap crunch comes.

  30. Stelio Kontos says:

    John Chambers: I doubt Arizona values Matthews that highly where they’d be willing to trade two high quality prospects AND their 1st Rd selection just to move up a few spots.

    My guess is that Tambellini actively listened to offers on both the RNH and Yakupov picks but was unable to land a combination of a top defender + another top-10 pick or top-flight prospect.

    Trading down from 1 to 7 with Strome coming this way seems objectively fair. Demanding Murphy or Stone would require the Oilers adding more value, perhaps in the form of Yakupov or the 32nd OV AND Lagesson or Musil.

    I was gonna suggest Yak. It would be a good way to move him out while not embarrassing him in a giveaway type trade.

  31. Jaxon says:

    Klima’s_Bucket,

    You dink! Okay, sorry, you may have a good point. Not totally copy and paste but definitely rehashing my ideas over and over again. I’m guilty of using comments to fine tune arguments which may not be fair to those who are reading them. You are very diplomatic in your criticism and that is much appreciated. I will curb my urge to share my ideas over and over and over again.

    Although, when reading Oilers blogs as much as I do, it feels like everything is already decided by Oilers fans so it feels like if you want to present a new (or old idea) other than trade one of the dreaded core Eberle, Nuge, Hall or 1st overall for a Hamonic, Vatanen, Shattenkirk or OEL you have to either yell or repeat yourself. Again, I will curb my urge to share my ideas over and over and over again. All the best.

  32. Centre of attention says:

    godot10: If Arizona’s pick is #2, I might do that.Not if it is out of the top five.Isn’t Connor Murphy better than Michael Stone?I don’t think Strome is a good fit for the OIlers who won’t have room to develop him properly.

    I want a much better D for Matthews.#1 for Murphy and #2.I might do that.#1 for Murphy, Rieder and #3.I might do that.I wouldn’t be willing to move further down the draft board without a much better D coming back than Murphy or Stone.

    But I think other teams will offer much more impactful D.

    Heck.Offer the pick (and Fayne or Reinhart)to Winnipeg for Trouba and their 1st and 2nd.Turn Matthews into Trouba and Chychrun (and a pick for compensation to Boston for Chiarelli).

    Stone is better than Murphy. Stone is a Right-shot puck mover with some physical grit and he can eat 20+ effective minutes.

    I would take him over Murphy any day. And I don’t mind getting out of the top 5 if it gets me Strome who can play with with McDavid easily in the future [they had chem in Junior] and Stone who is a top 4 RH puck mover. PLUS I’m getting their 7th(?) pick which I would grab one of Joulevi or Sergachev.

    So I get a young stud blue for the system, a RH top 4 for the Oilers, and Strome who could give you flexibility in the future. You can never have too many centers.

  33. 99266in87 says:

    For many days, reading what is determined value for our assets, eg: all the trade scenarios, they for the most part are trades to ponder. Some are good, some are head scratchers for sure, but ultimately it comes down to the strength of Chia and his power of bargaining. Much like dealing with a vehicle or house, his ability to not blink before the other trading partner, I’m confident we can more than likely obtain more than what I’ve seen here. Things get more furious and frenzy as the dates for acquiring come up.

  34. John Chambers says:

    Centre of attention,

    Yeah Strome could slot in as a 3C with Drai moving to the wing on a skill line. If Strome finds a tough match up on the road you just sub Drai back to 3C and move Strome to the wing.

  35. Johnny skid says:

    Stelio Kontos: I was gonna suggest Yak. It would be a good way to move him out while not embarrassing him in a giveaway type trade.

    i doubt the return for yak in a trade will in any way embarrass him. i bet he would just be happy to get out of dodge.

  36. Water Fire says:

    Impact players in key positions have tremendous value. Perhaps goalies are undervalued some but that is likely because most are so hard to assess and nobody trades a top goalie in prime.

    Yzerman offered a ton for an elite RH prospect because if he landed him and he didn’t flop with Hedman their Dcorp would have more value to winning than nearly any forward could.

    Matthews is said to be better than Eichel. If a team needs a top C name your price
    . I’d keep him and trade someone else. Size, offense, speed, defense, shooter.Imagine defending him and Connor.

  37. Jaxon says:

    Caramel Batman: That is an interesting combination of awful trades for the Oilers (Davidson for Pysyk) and ridiculous trades that are too good to be true for the Oiler s(Korpikoski for Rychel).

    It’s almost like you don’t know what you are talking about.

    Sorry Klima’s_Bucket,

    Davidson and Pysyk are similar players who have had similar careers. They both score in the NHL at a rate of about .2 pts/gp with the edge to Pysyk. Davidson is only slightly bigger (10 lbs, 1″), They are both former WHL players from Alberta who are the same age (Pysyk is 5 months younger). Actually, in ’11-’12 they were WHL 2nd Team All-Stars together. They have both had decent opportunities early where they got in the 19 minutes per game range and have had some decent advanced stats. Both are most likely stuck behind better vets and young players, but one is stuck behind left-handers and one is stuck behind right-handers. Both clubs are looking for the opposite hand in defenders so it is a good fit. I think Davidson starts this season as 3rd pair LD behind Klefbom and Sekera but may get replaced very soon by Nurse, or Reinhart and maybe even LaLeggia (if the Oilers need a powerplay spark). The following season Ziyat Paigin may be challenging for that 3rd LD spot too. Even Oesterle has shown he may challenge him someday. Pysyk is caught behind Roustolainen, Bogosian and Franson. If you can get an NHL calibre RD for Davidson, I’d say it is a good thing. And Davidson just had a decent season so throwing in a Moroz to try and pry away a player like Justin Bailey or Nicholas Baptiste may even the trade up a bit and again BUF has a deep pool or RW prospects with Hudson Fasching just getting called up late this season.

  38. Jaxon says:

    Caramel Batman: That is an interesting combination of awful trades for the Oilers (Davidson for Pysyk) and ridiculous trades that are too good to be true for the Oiler s(Korpikoski for Rychel).

    It’s almost like you don’t know what you are talking about.

    Again, there is more to the CBJ trade than meets the eye. Korpikoski and Caleb Jones to CBJ for RD Michael Paliotta and LW Kerby Rychel. While we are not enamoured with Korpikoski, CBJ’s Finnish GM just named him to Team Finland for the World Cup so he must value him to some extent. He is also about to go into contract negotiations with their franchise D Seth Jones. Trading for Seth’s brother and signing him to a max ELC may go a long way to helping them negotiate a reasonable long term deal for some UFA years. And Caleb is a good prospect in his own right and a LD to play with his RD brother someday. Michael Paliotta is a big offensive RD who skates well and is solid defensively. Kerby Rychel had requested a trade last season and the CBJ will be in a bind anyway if they are forced to protect their NMC players as they have 4 older not so great players with NMC. Kerby Rychel may be on his way out and he doesn’t seem to be a fit there so Korpikoski who their GM seems to like may be enough when you factor in Caleb Jones to make his top player happy.

    From Hockey Writers article by Dustin Nelson on March 22:
    “Columbus Blue Jackets
    Whether or not the pieces fit right, it’s very clear that there’s a lot of young talent in Columbus.

    However, there is a problem. Entering the draft they will have five NMCs and four of them are forwards.

    Worse yet, these aren’t four of the forwards you’d protect. Brandon Dubinsky, Nick Foligno, David Clarkson and Scott Hartnell all have NMCs. That leaves only three forward spaces with which to protect Brandon Saad, Boone Jenner, Alexander Wennberg, Cam Atkinson, William Karlsson, Oliver Bjorkstrand, Sonny Milano and Kerby Rychel.

    That’s a bad situation and may lead the Jackets to making a trade in order to prevent some of these players from disappearing for nothing.”

  39. Jaxon says:

    Caramel Batman: That is an interesting combination of awful trades for the Oilers (Davidson for Pysyk) and ridiculous trades that are too good to be true for the Oiler s(Korpikoski for Rychel).

    It’s almost like you don’t know what you are talking about.

    Sorry, while I’m at it, I’m going to defend the other trade as well. RW Yakupov and one of LD Musil, Simpson or Oesterle for RD Madison Bowey and RW Riley Barber. I was trying to figure out what team might think they have the tools to unlock Yakupov’s potential. Well, probably the best model/mentor for Yak is Ovechkin in style of game and attitude. They’re both smiling Russian snipers that are quite willing to hit. Now, Ovechkin does both the hitting and the sniping at a much higher / more frequent level but I think that is the game Yakupov aspires to. With both TJ Oshie and Justin Williams in the final year of their contracts next year, it may be a good time for Washington to audition another RW. Williams may not have many productive years left. I’m sure Bowey is coveted by them as a valuable prospect, but Yak is a former #1 who has had stretches of 15 to 20 games where he scored at a 70 pt pace. Washington’s D is very deep and they are competing for the Cup in a win it all situation for the next couple years so have less interest in prospects than we do. I think Yak may have more value in that scenario so I would propose sending a LD prospect like Musil, SImpson or Oesterle for RW Riley Barber to even things up a bit. I think Barber has some decent potential and scored at an NHLe pace of 35pts in his final NCAA season. Bowey could be a perfect fit on EDMs blueline. He’s big, RD with offensive chops. He’s a leader and has played with Nurse and McDavid for Team Canada at the World Juniors and with Draisaitl in Kelowna at the Memorial Cup. He led both those teams D in points and was captain in Kelowna. I think that is a solid return for both sides.

  40. Oilspill says:

    Like the Gryba-Davidson pairing. If Chia can’t move Fayne Gryba will be gone. He will get 1.8 to 2.3 over 2 years from a team who needs pure defense and PK skills to compliment their solid offensive players. People who think there is no room for defense don’t really know the game. Balance is needed.

  41. Hockey Buddha says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Yup. I think we should all make a point of going over to the Leaf’s Nation board to whine and complain, if the Leafs win the lottery, and the Oilers don’t get the first overall pick. Complain how Toronto is abusing the draft system, deliberately tanking, etc., etc. What an embarrassment to the league. I don’t generally troll, but that’d be too much fun.

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