THE HOCKEY NEWS!

If I spent a year trying to describe the excitement I felt when the Rexall Drugstore would call to tell me of the arrival of July’s edition of The Hockey News, it would still not grasp the moment. Mrs. Stenmark (she had a daughter I had a crush on, but so did every other young male in town) would call, my Mom would leave the message by the phone and I would drop by home during my paper route. I would check all during July, making sure it didn’t have to wait overnight. I would read every story on every page, and then do it again. I would read the transactions, mull over the major items (Derek Sanderson a Ranger???) and figure out a way to screw the Canadiens. God I loved those days. The July THN would have all the transactions, the GM comments and maybe a line from the coach about how he would use his new star player—plus the draft, featuring a picture of Clarence Campbell with the first overall pick. Campbell couldn’t pick a one of them out of a police lineup, but a few short years later someone had to pick Campbell out of one.

MILAN LUCIC SIGNS

Travis Yost is one of my favorite writers, so when he focuses on the Oilers it is an enjoyable experience. Yost knows the value of Connor McDavid (no extra points for that) and the Nuge—and I believe a lot of people miss that second one. Yost wrote an article yesterday on net-front presence, and found Lucic to be very poor in his metric (rebounds-per-60) which may come as a big surprise to you. I have seen Lucic for much of his career and he really is an odd duck. Lucic is a very good passer, and can score off the rush—something none of the almost-Lucic’s can boast. He does not shoot a lot—really, he doesn’t, but he can pile up the assists in a way that makes him unique among big wingers. You will have to watch him for awhile to really see his game. He is great on the forecheck, a steamroller on entries and puck battles, and a high percentage (not volume) shooter.

EVEN-STRENGTH ASSISTS, LW IN 2015-16

  1. Jussi Jokinen 34
  2. Johnny Gaudreau 33
  3. Jamie Benn 32
  4. Artemi Panarin 31
  5. Taylor Hall 31
  6. Jonathan Huberdeau 30
  7. Milan Lucic 29

Among LWs, Lucic is tied for No. 14 in even-strength goals (18) and No. 52 in shots on goal (124) with the final total being all situations. In the time I have watched Milan Lucic—which is his entire career—I can tell you that expecting 200 shots in a year will end in disappointment. Perhaps it would help if I put Lucic in per 82gp structure:

  • 20-30-50, 136 shots

Lucic helps in possession, and he will surprise you with his passing. He is extremely able in physical battles and being aggressive. He will not score 20 goals on 200 shots, and you will be surprised at his ability to score off the rush. Milan Lucic is a truly unique NHL player. I think he will play Wayne Cashman to McDavid, retrieving pucks and getting into position to receive one. His goals total is likely to increase, but check that assist total at the end of the season. Lucic is a lot more than a man who can block out the sun.

BOB GREEN VERSUS BOB MCKENZIE

mckenzie 2016 draftWell, that is a little loud and I apologize. Interesting to see that the Oilers list and the McKenzie rankings lined up pretty well—and I am a big fan of Benson over Hajek at No. 32 overall. The first three players Edmonton drafted are bona fide prospects taken around the expected area and none of them have a fatal flaw (Niemelainen can skate). Can’t wait to watch these young men  in draft +1. Benson’s health is the big worry, that’s for sure.

PRE-SEASON/WORLD CUP

The Oilers first pre-season games (it is a doubleheader against Calgary) will take place on Monday, September 26. The World Cup of Hockey will be in full bloom, with another week (closes October 1) to go. A bunch of Oilers management and coaching staff will be at the World Cup, while at the same time things will be happening in a very important pre-season back home. Does anyone else think this is a concern? No? Bueller?

FORENSICS

Dallas Eakins, Stu MacGregor, Morey Gare, Brad Davis, Kent Hawley and Billy Moores were all let go as the forensics found culprits and sent them away. Now that the draft is done and the decisions have been made, will there be others to go? If the Oilers do have some people to let go, expect the announcement on a Friday in summer.

THE RE SERIES BEGINS MONDAY

I have 35 RE’s that will roll out in the next month or so, in two styles (RE and TC Hopefuls). The first one rolls off the assembly line on Monday morning (unless something breaks) and I have narrowed the musical field to: Johnny Cash, Paul Simon, CANCON and whatever you suggest that I take a liking too.

PETER CHIARELLI’S SUMMER

  • Traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson
  • Signed free agent Milan Lucic
  • Signed free agent Jonas Gustavsson
  • Signed free agent Mark Fraser
  • Signed free agent Taylor Beck
  • Signed first-round pick Jesse Puljujarvi

In a way, it was a franchise-altering summer, but in another way it feels incomplete. If the Oilers are looking for a goalie in November, would you be surprised? And the Mark Fraser and Taylor Beck additions seem to miss the mark—although the summer is not yet complete and things can change.

OILERS PROJECTED ROSTER 2016-17

PROJECTED LINEUP JUL 13

I think this is going to be the lineup, with Mark Fraser and Anton Lander possibly being vulnerable. I also think Griffin Reinhart could come in and outplay several other defensemen and still get sent down—that bonus is not helping. I wonder if agents and players would push to alter the rule in the next CBA? Any rule that impedes player progress should be altered, in my opinion.

One other thing: No puck mover and PP QB yet, wonder if McLellan and Woodcroft are cobbling together PP lineups with a forward playing on defense. Nuge? Eberle?

NHLE’S

  1. L Drake Cagguila 22-22-44
  2. R Patrick Russell 17-17-34
  3. L Jere Sallinen 10-15-25
  4. R Tyler Pitlick 7-15-22
  5. C Jujhar Khaira 8-13-21
  6. R Anton Slepyshev 10-7-17
  7. C Bogdan Yakimov 5-11-15
  8. C Kyle Platzer 5-9-14
  9. R Greg Chase 2-12-14

Among the forwards not listed in my assumed lineup, the NHLE’s offer us some clues about possible callups. If Drake Caggiula can post some crooked numbers in Bakersfield, we could see him during the 2016-17 campaign. Patrick Russell is interesting, but his scouting report flags him for not speeding, and with this roster that is going to be a real challenge. Jere Sallinen and Tyler Pitlick have pro experience and could get a push via injury and I think Jujhar Khaira likely has a better chance than that to make this team. If Edmonton chooses Khaira over Lander, I would not be massively surprised. No real indication about the Russians, beyond they have enough talent and Slepyshev combines size and speed but the numbers didn’t come year 1 in North America.

OILERS 50-MAN LIST

50-man

I like the increased balance on this roster, and there has been a slight (SLIGHT!) improvement in the Leftorium. I don’t really know the gap between Taylor Hall and Milan Lucic, nor the gap between Adam Larsson and Jason Demers—only that it has been a painful summer. Maybe it will be followed by a 40-win winter, it does look as though the Oilers will have two pairings who can play.

Crickets on David Musil, perhaps we hear something today. I honestly wonder what Musil and his agent might be thinking at this time. If he comes back to the organization, what then? My guess is something gets done, Musil goes to Bakersfield and works hard to either get a chance with Edmonton—or possibly a break in expansion. I had Tom Lynn on the Lowdown yesterday, and he was all about telling his players to have the best possible season in 2016-17. Although getting to free agency next summer is ideal, suspect agents are a big part of trades these days (finding a good landing spot for their client). Musil might be such a player.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN 1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, BigMouthSports. The Open, CFL Week 4 and the Blue Jays chances.
  • Sunil Agnihotri, Copper & Blue plus The SuperFan. What is the gap between Hall and Lucic? Plus figuring out this summer.
  • Matt Iwanyk, TSN1260. Hall versus Larsson a few weeks on: Do we feel the same? Plus, Eskimos on a roll.
  • Dean Millard, TSN1260. The Open.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Friday!

 

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154 Responses to "THE HOCKEY NEWS!"

  1. speeds says:

    LT (and everyone):

    What are your thoughts on EDM drafting Benson with 32OV, vs. trading it to TB for RH D DeAngelo (who ended up being traded to ARZ for 37OV)?

  2. square_wheels says:

    speeds,

    Don’t think Tampa, a team that’s been delivering talent for a few years, gives away a RHD for a draft pick.

    The player must have warts.

  3. speeds says:

    It’s just kind of interesting that they didn’t go after him because that could have, potentially, been their RH PP D for now and the future, at a cost of nothing to the current roster (assuming Benson doesn’t make the club this fall).

  4. LOObird says:

    If only Rexall could have brought that same level of excitement to the Oilers.

  5. magisterrex says:

    I think it’s highly unlikely that Griffin Reinhart starts anywhere but on the team this year.

    I could see Nurse starting in the AHL, though.

  6. frjohnk says:

    Loved the hockey news as a kid.

    My old man got that and hockey digest. He had every hockey digest from the mid 70’s to mid 90’s.

    When we got the big American satellite dish. Late 80″s I was in hockey glory as a kid growing up in small town Saskatchewan.

    I loved the hockey news draft profiles that came out every spring.

    Haven’t read one in years.

  7. Jethro Tull says:

    square_wheels: The player must have warts.

    I feel that without proper investigation, that this is an unfair assumption to make based of who got traded for whom.

    We, as Oiler fans, should know the dangers of this.

    As in “Don’t think that the Oilers, a team that’s been delivering talent for a few years, gives away the best LW in the league for a RHD. The player must have warts.”

  8. Jethro Tull says:

    frjohnk: Haven’t read one in years.

    It’s on the interwebs!

  9. Gret99zky says:

    Lowetide:
    “The Oilers first pre-season games (it is a doubleheader against Calgary) will take place on Monday, September 26. The World Cup of Hockey will be in full bloom, with another week (closes October 1) to go. A bunch of Oilers management and coaching staff will be at the World Cup, while at the same time things will be happening in a very important pre-season back home. Does anyone else think this is a concern? No? Bueller?”

    Two words: Kelly Buchberger

    RE the RE: There is a higher probability Nana Mouskouri is chosen for the RE series than a band the younger crowd listens to or suggested. But I guess that’s where the onion meets the belt.

    In other THN, how many points does Calgary beat us by this year?

  10. Soup Fascist says:

    Is Matt Hendricks a “luxury” this team can afford? Good guy by all reports – but he is very likely gone at the end of this year. His skills seem to be eroding and are certainly not enough to justify his ticket to play on the 4th line. His “intangibles” would be valued more on a contender with cap space.

    I think the Oilers would be better off freeing up some cash to sign a legit hole filler and put a Pak / JJ or – healthy? Pitlick on 4th line wing. Hendy is a pro but his presence has not added substantive improvement and frankly – he deserves an opportunity to go out with a team with a chance at the cup.

  11. slopitch says:

    LT you’re not a big Hip fan? I’ll admit the same for a long time myself. Still think they are a good choice.

    Would like to have beers with the Oilers PP coach right now. No a lot to choose from for net front options (although plenty on the puck retrieval side). Maroon, Poo and Ebs are the best options for in front of the net, maybe Drai. The other concern is lack of shot. Yak, Davidson, Lucic? are options. I think Eberle is best in close to the net myself.

    One thing I think we can agree on is that the more touches for McDavid the better and that Nuge should be much improved on the PP this year.

  12. GCW_69 says:

    At the draft, I think teams need to generally be risk adverse in the first two rounds, and risk takers after that – boom or bust.

    Benson flies in the face of that, so I am not a fan of the pick. The added risk vs the upside opportunity doesn’t work for me.

    Scouting that we have to wait 3-5 years to know if the Oilers were right or not.

  13. speeds says:

    GCW_69,

    If the idea is “if Benson wasn’t hurt, he’d have produced way more”, and he’s now healthy, not impossible he has a big production jump this year and heads to camp next year with a non-zero chance at cracking the lineup (maybe particularly if they lose Pouliot in the expansion draft?).

  14. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    Soup Fascist:
    Is Matt Hendricks a “luxury” this team can afford?Good guy by all reports – but he is very likely gone at the end of this year. His skills seem to be eroding and are certainly not enough to justify his ticket to play on the 4th line. His “intangibles” would be valued more on a contender with cap space.

    I think the Oilers would be better off freeing up some cash to sign a legit hole filler and put a Pak / JJ or – healthy? Pitlick on 4th line wing. Hendy is a pro but his presence has not added substantive improvement and frankly – he deserves an opportunity to go out with a team with a chance at the cup.

    I realise it’s all intangibles, but to me Hendricks for one more year has value. We’ve seen this team get rid of a lot of quality intangibles guys over the years to make space available for the kids, and what a roaring success it’s been.

    Looking at it another way, The 900k difference between his price and and up and comers price is not going to be the difference between this being a good team or a bad team. In the meantime he can provide some guidance to a young club and can be the guy to face the media if (and when) we put up a stinker in front of our very upset fan base.

    Last point: his intangibles are elite intangibles. He’s been the captain of team USA twice now, I realize that doesn’t mean much to some but to me it says that the narrative of “he’s a good influence on young kids, good in the room” is true well beyond the Edmonton Oilers. He is an upper-level intangibles guy, and again, it’s not like he’s making Dustin Brown money.

  15. 99266in87 says:

    LT, infrequent poster, but this blog has become my ritual, to the point my kids always say “you on Lowetide again” lol. I read everything. Past few years always start with healthy optimism with the start of the seasons, only to give up by novembers. The new management brought in last year was needed for everything, coaching, building up the roster depth the right way, and building up the team. I’ve seen the passions of THE TRADE and subsequent FA signing(s) and the reactions to them. I’ve really identified with Darcy and kiltymcbagpipes. I’m kilty, passionate about the team on one side, but really trying to get to what Darcy is informing all of us. Darcy, true, we all enjoy the game, the team, but in different ways and forums. I work 2 jobs, putting 3 kids through university, so I don’t have time to analyze numbers to any major degree other than to decipher the posts I read here.
    My opinions. I understand the Hall trade, even as a fan of him. I do know that structuring the strength has to be done from the back end and up the middle.
    The team had no real depth, and agree with the numbers guy who said too many shitty players played too much, so last year and this year, drafting Baby Jesus and acquiring Larsson pushes players down where they should be in a proper depth kind of way.
    Talbot, had concerns with his acquisition last year, being he was a back up brought in to start. So far he’s starting to gain my faith.
    Many of the FA propositions, on paper and transcribed here look good, only I doubt many of them perhaps were approached and declined signing our team, or maybe chia and TMac didn’t give any thought as potential use within the vision they have, and I’m pretty sure they have one and are staying the course.
    Draisaitl….doubt he will get an Austin contract, and I personally feel that nuge and Ebs may be held on for a bit until the depth of the team starts simmering up. Chia does answer to the name on his cheque, maybe Katz/Nicholson have long term internal budgets that will be implemented as the contracts get to the end. Connor will be paid, and will be worth every cent.
    The changes are painful, I just feel it differently, but, my hopeless optimism is actually the most I’ve had in years. Count me a Chia lover, and faith in Coach. OBC, they can go away. It’s not all there….yet, but I think it will be. Don’t ever discount development over the summer of kids so young. We await TC and see. Thanks for reading my post. Just a mid lifer Oiler forever.

  16. Gret99zky says:

    Soup Fascist,

    Matt Hendricks is likely on the roster more for his leadership and guidance for the youngsters than his play on the ice. There is value in having a veteran like him in the locker room.

    Plus he has a cup.

    http://wpmedia.edmontonjournal.com/2016/01/posted-his-matt-hendricks-twitter-account-matthendy-shortly1.jpeg?quality=55&strip=all&w=840&h=630&crop=1

  17. doritogrande says:

    I typically buy the THN specials (draft, yearly preview, future watch) every year and archive them after the fact. Makes some of the Oilers picks (Paajarvi) seem better because even the experts can be duped.

    I’ll make a last gasp stump for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, but if it’s not your thing it’s not your thing.

  18. Bag of Pucks says:

    Love the CANCON suggestion.

    Enables tons of musical diversity and the chance for LT to spotlight some curios from the CKRD collection, ensures the song titles are spot on for each player, and very consistent with what I think is a massively underrated and appealing aspect of this site: it’s ability to capture and express the prairie Canadian male zeitgeist in a way very few have before.

    Hockey, whiskey, woman and music. It’s a formula, but ‘it bloody well works!’

  19. frjohnk says:

    Soup Fascist:
    Is Matt Hendricks a “luxury” this team can afford?Good guy by all reports – but he is very likely gone at the end of this year. His skills seem to be eroding and are certainly not enough to justify his ticket to play on the 4th line. His “intangibles” would be valued more on a contender with cap space.

    I think the Oilers would be better off freeing up some cash to sign a legit hole filler and put a Pak / JJ or – healthy? Pitlick on 4th line wing. Hendy is a pro but his presence has not added substantive improvement and frankly – he deserves an opportunity to go out with a team with a chance at the cup.

    I think Hendriks has entered into forward version of what Ference was last year.

    Big heart, vocal leader great guy, but skills and skating have eroded to the point he is just a replacement level player.

  20. remlap says:

    I’ll also add a vote for The Hip.

    But if that’s not your cup of tea, I’m fine with Johnny Cash. I’m only really familiar with a small handful of his songs. It’s a definite blind spot in my “oldies” music knowledge. So getting some exposure via Mr. Lowetide would be good.

  21. Ducey says:

    speeds:
    LT (and everyone):

    What are your thoughts on EDM drafting Benson with 32OV, vs. trading it to TB for RH D DeAngelo (who ended up being traded to ARZ for 37OV)?

    He is an interesting player. 5’11” insane #’s in his stint with SSM (51 pts in 26 games although the team was good and they loaded up). Good numbers in the AHL. He was -33 in his draft year and -18 in the AHL. That -18 was tied for worst on the team. We don’t have anything else go by, but the highly negative +/- may be a tell.

    Maybe he is from the Justin Schultz, Brad Hunt, MAB tree. Lots of O, no D? Good on the PP, not so much 5 x 5.

    He also got suspended 8 games in his draft year for a slur directed at a teammate. And he had two games in the AHL where he got 20 min in PIM and another where he had 10. Might be a hothead.

    So maybe some warts.

  22. square_wheels says:

    Jethro Tull,

    Ha. Very fair point. Could have rightfully been a contract issue combined with a depth issue. Drafted as high as he was he likely wanted a Cheque that resembled something the Bolts couldn’t fit.

    Any 1st round player not getting regular minutes Draft +3 doesn’t necessarily have incurable issues, however the Oilers seem to think they do.

  23. Drew says:

    Gret99zky:
    Soup Fascist,

    Matt Hendricks is likely on the roster more for his leadership and guidance for the youngsters than his play on the ice.There is value in having a veteran like him in the locker room.

    Plus he has a cup.

    http://wpmedia.edmontonjournal.com/2016/01/posted-his-matt-hendricks-twitter-account-matthendy-shortly1.jpeg?quality=55&strip=all&w=840&h=630&crop=1

    What does Hendricks make this year? 2.5M? I seem to remember seeing his name on the dregs Woodmoney list, can’t his intangibles be replaced by better players Lucic and Maroon why not use his cap hit elsewhere now?

    If he is on the dregs list does that mean he sucks?

  24. Ducey says:

    frjohnk: I think Hendriks has entered into forward version of what Ference was last year.

    Big heart, vocal leader great guy, but skills and skating have eroded to the point he is just a replacement level player.

    Replacement level players belong on the 4th line. Nothing wrong with that. He still made the USA World Championship squad the last 2 years. He gets a large does of defensive zone starts, and can help at C and on the PK.

    He is a very useful player to have on the 4th line. Replacing him with a rookie would be a mistake.

    There might be a market for him at the trade deadline too.

  25. Bag of Pucks says:

    RE: The Hendricks decision. Isn’t that what training camp and the exhibition season is for?

    I’d rather someone beat Hendricks out for his job fair and square, rather than proactively pulling out the long knives. This team has scant enough experienced veterans as is.

  26. Drew says:

    listening to LT show and Will F is getting to LT with his stupidity. lol

  27. Ducey says:

    Drew: What does Hendricks make this year? 2.5M? I seem to remember seeing his name on the dregs Woodmoney list, can’t his intangibles be replaced by better players Lucic and Maroon why not use his cap hit elsewhere now?

    If he is on the dregs list does that mean he sucks?

    $1.85 M. This is his last year. He is on the dregs because of his minutes played 5 on 5.

  28. Chachi says:

    “A bunch of Oilers management and coaching staff will be at the World Cup, while at the same time things will be happening in a very important pre-season back home. Does anyone else think this is a concern? No? Bueller?”

    This concerns me greatly. Also concerning is the fact that several of the Oilers best players will be exposing themselves to injury playing for novelty teams in a tournament that means very little in this NHL-players-going-to-the-winter-olympics era.

  29. DRFNsuperstar says:

    The only risk I see for the coaches and management being at the World Cup during TC is for PTOs and waiver eligible tweeners like Musil, Lander, and Brossoit.. The meat of the roster is set and played together last year. Also the captaincy situation they can’t go two years with no captain and no Hall means Mcdavid is the guy, but who is the supporting group? Hendricks, Nuge, Lucic? When do they name them? I say rights after Connor wins the World Cup trophy.

    There is no way Eberle plays the top of the umbrella on the PP, that would last one game and two shorties against. Nuge won’t take that spot because he is a lefty and they might as well put Klefbom there if a lefty plays the top. I’m more interested in the 2nd PP unit, if the 1st is:

    Lucic(net front)
    Nuge(bumper)
    Connor(right half wall)
    Larsson(top)
    Eberle(left half wall)

    That means the 2nd unit could be:
    Pouliot(net front)
    Drai(bumper)
    Yak(right half wall)
    Klefbom(top)
    JP(left half wall)

    This could be JP’s role that gets him to the NHL early instead of AHL. Mclellan looooovves right hand shooters on the PP, pavelski and burns teeing up Thorton passes was/is magic.

  30. Drew says:

    Ducey: $1.85 M. This is his last year.He is on the dregs because of his minutes played 5 on 5.

    Does that mean he is bad at 5×5 or was he unfairly used, played against the best? might be better to move a league minimum into the spot?

  31. Gordies Elbow says:

    Based on the current players, I can’t see a players bonuses having an impact.

    From an earlier thread: “The cap is at $73m. With both Ference on the roster (I expect that he will be LITR’ed, but have kept him in to show the cap room/worst case) and with the Korpikowski buyout, they’re looking at $64.4m spend for the following lineup.

    Lucic – McDavid – Yakupov
    Pouliot – Nuge – Eberle
    Maroon – Draisaitl – Puljujarvi
    Hendricks – Letestu – Kassian
    Lander

    Klefbom – Larsson
    Sekera – Fayne
    Reinhart – Davidson
    Nurse, Ference

    Talbot
    Gustavsson

    Please note, I’d have Puljujarvi start in the AHL, the following is a worst case scenario for bonuses.
    With McDavid, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi, Reinhart, and Nurse eligible for up to $11.025m in bonuses, they would enter the bonus cushion territory, with a potential projected spend of $75.2m, which is still under the bonus cushion cap ($78.475m, +7.5% of the $73m cap.)

    That said, the odds of paying out all of the schedule B bonuses is almost nill. McDavid is the only true threat to be paid out some of his bonus money, and while I’d love to see him win the Hart or Selke ($250,000), win the Lady Byng ($150,000), Goals/Assists/Points ($150,000) it’s not reasonable to assume that he would be tops in all categories.

    Assuming that all schedule A bonuses are paid out, and 50% of the schedule B bonuses are paid out, the total for the above team would be $71.8m, under the cap by $1.2m.”

    Schedule A and B bonuses are listed in Exhibit 5 of the CBA.

    Schedule A bonuses are up to a maximum of $850k. I would expect that these would be achievable for most players.

    Schedule B bonuses are for league wide accomplishments, such as winning a major award (Norris, Selke, Calder,) making the all-star team, or being top 10 in goals, points, minutes, etc.

    From the CBA: “A Player and Club may also negotiate individual bonuses payable by the Club for the League-wide Awards/Trophy Bonuses and League Performance Bonuses set forth below, except where specifically stated otherwise, in amounts to be individually negotiated between a Club and a Player (the Club and Player could agree to pay more, or less, than the amounts payable by the League, set forth below). The maximum aggregate amount that a Club can pay a Player (in addition to any amounts paid by the League to such Player) on behalf of a Player’s Individual “B” Bonuses is $2 million per season. There is no limit on the quantity (as opposed to the dollar amount) of League-wide Awards/Trophies and League Performance Bonuses a Player may receive from the Club.”

    As much as I’d like all of Connor McDavid, Griffin Reinhart, Jesse Puljujarvi, and Leon Draisaitl to win the league awards, it’s not reasonable. The Oiler’s are not to the top of the bonus cushion, and will likely only pay out a portion of bonuses.

  32. Chachi says:

    Gret99zky:

    In other THN, how many points does Calgary beat us by this year?

    Seems likely that the Flames again finish ahead of the Oilers given the respective rosters as they stand right now.

    Saying that, the Flames had almost full injury free seasons from their best players and were still an awful team. A lot of that was goaltending I think so the question is how much have they improved their goaltending (a lot I think) and how many points does that improvement translate into?

    Of course their depth is not so great that they could afford to lose players like Brodie or Gaudreau for half a season or more and still contend for the playoffs so best of luck to the Flames this year.

  33. Skeeziks says:

    One point I would like to make regarding the potential tandem of Lucic and McDavid is that I am very encouraged by the fact that Lucic is a very good passer.

    Last year, McDavid was at his best when he was receiving passes as he was leaving the D zone. This gave him the opportunity to use his blazing speed to create difficulties for opposing D. Where he bogged down was when players like Eberle carried the puck through the neutral zone. This slowed McDavid and the overall attack.

    If Lucic, who is not an elite puck carrier, can get McDavid the puck early, then they have the potential to be truly dynamic.

  34. jm363561 says:

    frjohnk: I think Hendriks has entered into forward version of what Ference was last year.

    Big heart, vocal leader great guy, but skills and skating have eroded to the point he is just a replacement level player.

    Hate to say it but that was my reaction.

  35. "Steve Smith" says:

    frjohnk: I think Hendriks has entered into forward version of what Ference was last year.

    Big heart, vocal leader great guy, but skills and skating have eroded to the point he is just a replacement level player.

    Ference last year was considerably below replacement level – I don’t think Hendricks has reached Ferencian depths, and whether he’s on our fourth line is hardly among the most important issues facing us in a non-contending season.

    As for the RE series, I’d love to see it be Simon.

  36. jm363561 says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    Based on the current players, I can’t see a players bonuses having an impact.

    From an earlier thread: “The cap is at $73m. With both Ference on the roster (I expect that he will be LITR’ed, but have kept him in to show the cap room/worst case) and with the Korpikowski buyout, they’re looking at $64.4m spend for the following lineup.

    Lucic – McDavid – Yakupov
    Pouliot – Nuge – Eberle
    Maroon – Draisaitl – Puljujarvi
    Hendricks – Letestu – Kassian
    Lander

    Klefbom – Larsson
    Sekera – Fayne
    Reinhart – Davidson
    Nurse, Ference

    Talbot
    Gustavsson

    Please note, I’d have Puljujarvi start in the AHL, the following is a worst case scenario for bonuses.
    With McDavid, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi, Reinhart, and Nurse eligible for up to $11.025m in bonuses, they would enter the bonus cushion territory, with a potential projected spend of $75.2m, which is still under the bonus cushion cap ($78.475m, +7.5% of the $73m cap.)

    That said, the odds of paying out all of the schedule B bonuses is almost nill. McDavid is the only true threat to be paid out some of his bonus money, and while I’d love to see him win the Hart or Selke ($250,000), win the Lady Byng ($150,000), Goals/Assists/Points ($150,000) it’s not reasonable to assume that he would be tops in all categories.

    Assuming that all schedule A bonuses are paid out, and 50% of the schedule B bonuses are paid out, the total for the above team would be $71.8m, under the cap by $1.2m.”

    Schedule A and B bonuses are listed in Exhibit 5 of the CBA.

    Schedule A bonuses are up to a maximum of $850k. I would expect that these would be achievable for most players.

    Schedule B bonuses are for league wide accomplishments, such as winning a major award (Norris, Selke, Calder,) making the all-star team, or being top 10 in goals, points, minutes, etc.

    As much as I’d like all of Connor McDavid, Griffin Reinhart, Jesse Puljujarvi, and Leon Draisaitl to win the league awards, it’s not reasonable. The Oiler’s are not to the top of the bonus cushion, and will likely only pay out a portion of bonuses.

    I agree with the maths. The problem is that we would be right up at the cap limit if all the high draft picks are on the roster which severely limits the flexibility for bringing in extra players. I believe Chia is not yet done and needs the cap space.

  37. digger50 says:

    I remember every morning in the winter school months trying to steal 25 cents from my mums purse, or dads pockets, but he was already up and gone so little access there.

    That would buy me two packs of hockey cards and a big was of gum from the drugstore at the little mini mall. Got em, got em, got em……Dave Keon, need em….

  38. Ducey says:

    Chachi: Seems likely that the Flames again finish ahead of the Oilers given the respective rosters as they stand right now.

    Saying that, the Flames had almost full injury free seasons from their best players and were still an awful team. A lot of that was goaltending I think so the question is how much have they improved their goaltending (a lot I think) and how many points does that improvement translate into?

    Of course their depth is not so great that they could afford to lose players like Brodie or Gaudreau for half a season or more and still contend for the playoffs so best of luck to the Flames this year.

    I don’t know. The Flames were 21st in CF% last year. The Oilers were 19th. And EDM’s PDO was worse than CGY’s.

    The teams were very close 5 x 5. The biggest difference was that CGY was 8th in the NHL in GF. The Oilers were 21st.

    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/teamstats.php?disp=1&db=201516&sit=5v5&sort=GF&sortdir=DESC

  39. Woogie63 says:

    We read from time to time, that GR bonus means he will start in the AHL or will hurt his ability to make the team out of training camp … I would challenge that line of thinking.

    1. The Oilers’ don’t want “that” reputations amongst the players (here) and in the league.
    2. We are building a 25,000 Sq foot dressing room to scream this is a great place to play.
    3. Having a 22 year old, 6-4, 220 lbs defensemen, EARN a bonus helps the team results.
    4. Slow playing for cap reasons is very short sighted, that was the old management.
    5. Replacing Hendricks with a cheaper option is a guarantee at some point this year
    6. The blog loves Davy, but he is a 24 old “career” AHL that has 63 NHL games … we don’t know what he is yet

  40. Jaxon says:

    TOM WAITS FOR RE!

  41. Chachi says:

    Ducey: I don’t know. The Flames were 21st in CF% last year. The Oilers were 19th.And EDM’s PDO was worse than CGY’s.

    The teams were very close 5 x 5. The biggest difference was that CGY was 8th in the NHL in GF. The Oilers were 21st.

    http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/teamstats.php?disp=1&db=201516&sit=5v5&sort=GF&sortdir=DESC

    Calgary also got rid of Bob “Artley” so improved coaching may give them a little bump this year. All they need is career years from all of their players and perfect health and they ought to make the playoffs. Best of luck to the Flames this year.

  42. JimmyV1965 says:

    Chachi: Seems likely that the Flames again finish ahead of the Oilers given the respective rosters as they stand right now.

    Saying that, the Flames had almost full injury free seasons from their best players and were still an awful team. A lot of that was goaltending I think so the question is how much have they improved their goaltending (a lot I think) and how many points does that improvement translate into?

    Of course their depth is not so great that they could afford to lose players like Brodie or Gaudreau for half a season or more and still contend for the playoffs so best of luck to the Flames this year.

    I think the Flames, Jets and Oil duke it out for two playoff spots. I think the Wild and Ducks are out. Ducks took significant steps backwards and rely too much on two players on the downside of 30.

  43. G Money says:

    *** NERD(ISH) SPAM ALERT ***

    Over at BLH, I compare the pace of next years schedule with last years ridiculous one.

    You won’t like the results.

    http://www.beerleagueheroes.com/scheduling-another-reason-oilers-fans-frustrated/

    (Note: minimal and very easy-going math)

  44. leadfarmer says:

    I agree with the Hendricks assessment. If you can get an asset for him now you should do it. Like the guy but you could see the league passing him by the second half of last season.

    I am concerned if Chia is comfortable starting next season with the goalie situation. Gustavson is a waiver wire caliber goalie. Brossoit is a developing backup next season and I don’t see him higher than career backup for a ceiling. If Talbot gets injured or struggles we will have another one of those Chia gets taken behind the woodshed trades

  45. Jaxon says:

    I’ve made a spreadsheet of the NHLEs for all the signed Edmonton D I’m happy to share here. Tabs for Draft, Draft+1, Draft +2 and so on to Draft+6. It is interesting to see how the D have developed from a production POV over the course of their careers. It wasn’t the reason I made the sheets, but it gives some interesting perspective on Reinhart. In his draft+3 season, he outproduced the Draft+3s of Sekera, Nurse, Klefbom, Davidson, Oesterle and Fayne. In his Draft+4 season he outproduced Simpson, Fayne and Davidson. Bear looks great on the depth chart. How long it took Klefbom and Paigin to find offense is promising for other players. Simpson and Davidson have similar development curves and have produced relatively well almost every year. LaLeggia’s offense has always been impressive, although last season it took a bit of a dip. I expect him to bounce back this season.

    EDIT: I’VE ALLOWED COMMENTING ON THE SHEET.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12LuSmpazrPD68ROHhNYR9VbH_iqyOmrndMTQS1S-Uu8/edit?usp=sharing

  46. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Woogie63:
    We read from time to time, that GR bonus means he will start in the AHL or will hurt his ability to make the team out of training camp … I would challenge that line of thinking.

    1. The Oilers’ don’t want “that” reputations amongst the players (here) and in the league.
    2. We are building a 25,000 Sq foot dressing room to scream this is a great place to play.
    3. Having a 22 year old, 6-4, 220 lbs defensemen, EARN a bonus helps the team results.
    4. Slow playing for cap reasons is very short sighted, that was the old management.
    5. Replacing Hendricks with a cheaper option is a guarantee at some point this year
    6. The blog loves Davy, but he is a 24 old “career” AHL that has 63 NHL games … we don’t know what he is yet

    There seems a lot of confusion on bonuses. GR has 850K in schedule A. These tend to be easier to reach. Does anyone know his actual terms and which he has a significant chance of hitting? GR has 1.5M schedule B team paid bonuses (not to be confused with league paid schedule B bonuses). These tend to be hard to hit even with a full season. Does anyone know GR’s actual terms? Finally can anyone explain the cap implications this year. Does he use up cap room for both or are we looking at penalties against next year I suspect if he hit team schedule B bonuses like league titles we would not mind next year implications.

    Lots of conclusions seem to be drawn, but how many of these facts do we have?

  47. Gordies Elbow says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    The schedule B bonuses are laid out in Exhibit 5 of the CBA, and must be for the League wide awards.

    I’d copy the entire exhibit here, but it’s a couple of pages long.

    CBA is located here.

    See page 328.

  48. Eastern Oil says:

    Gret99zky: Two words:Kelly Buchberger

    RE the RE:There is a higher probability Nana Mouskouri is chosen for the RE series than a band the younger crowd listens to or suggested.But I guess that’s where the onion meets the belt.

    In other THN, how many points does Calgary beat us by this year?

    I second the vote to have Nan Mouskouri as the RE artist!

    I skimmed the previous paragraph but asssume that it what you said… 🙂

  49. Drew says:

    “Steve Smith”: Ference last year was considerably below replacement level – I don’t think Hendricks has reached Ferencian depths, and whether he’s on our fourth line is hardly among the most important issues facing us in a non-contending season.

    As for the RE series, I’d love to see it be Simon.

    Seems that our backup choice might not have been the best (according to a number of writers and other resources, suneil is on LT right now saying that).

    would that 1MM have been better spent on a great backup than a poor 4rth liner? not trying to be difficult just for discussion sake.

  50. dustrock says:

    Totally fine with the CANCON suggestion, but I think The HIp deserve their own RE series, given Gord’s status, their great discography and their unique connection to hockey.

  51. G Money says:

    Hendricks shows up on the dregs list based on multiple criteria. Remember, these are relatively simple markers like being in the lowest tier of the league on various markers like TOI, scoring, and CFRel.

    Quite a few bottom 6 Oilers (Iiro, Letestu and of course Korpse) show up in the beta version Dregs list, which loosened the dregs criteria (and tightened the Top Comp) criteria in order to get a more balanced TOI between the three tiers.

    Top Comp plays way more, Dregs play way less, so you need a bigger Dregs list to get them a little closer together, a point which a couple of people here noted.

    When I say we “loosened” the criteria, it is only by a shade – by objective markers, these are still bottom of the barrel players.

    The one thing that I believe is not accounted for is the effect that Korpse had on Letestu and Hendricks. He dragged their (and EVERYONE’s) shot metrics into the grave with him. His negative impact is mind-blowing.

    So as long as the Oilers replace Korpse with someone competent at two-way hockeying (Pulkkinen would be fantastic), I expect both of those guys will look far more competent next year.

    Hendricks plays a very physical style and his skating is actually one of his strong suits as a ‘role player’, so the concern that he may be past his prime and on a ski slope is very real.

  52. Drew says:

    G Money:
    Hendricks shows up on the dregs list based on multiple criteria.Remember, these are relatively simple markers like being in the lowest tier of the league on various markers like TOI, scoring, and CFRel.

    Quite a few bottom 6 Oilers (Iiro, Letestu and of course Korpse) show up in the beta version Dregs list, which loosened the dregs criteria (and tightened the Top Comp) criteria in order to get a more balanced TOI between the three tiers.

    Top Comp plays way more, Dregs play way less, so you need a bigger Dregs list to get them a little closer together, a point which a couple of people here noted.

    When I say we“loosened” the criteria, it is only by a shade – by objective markers, these are still bottom of the barrel players.

    The one thing that I believe is not accounted for is the effect that Korpse had on Letestu and Hendricks.He dragged their (and EVERYONE’s) shot metrics into the grave with him.His negative impact is mind-blowing.

    So as long as the Oilers replace Korpse with someone competent at two-way hockeying (Pulkkinen would be fantastic), I expect both of those guys will look far more competent next year.

    Hendricks plays a very physical style and his skating is actually one of his strong suits as a ‘role player’, so the concern that he may be past his prime and on a ski slope is very real.

    ahhh yes the Korps effect. kinda like the walking dead?

  53. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    The schedule B bonuses are laid out in Exhibit 5 of the CBA, and must be for the League wide awards.

    I’d copy the entire exhibit here, but it’s a couple of pages long.

    CBA is located here.

    See page 328.

    https://www.capfriendly.com/faq

    There are two types of Schedule B Bonuses. League-wide award/trophy bonuses that are paid by the league and are not captured within the actual entry-level contract signed by the player, and player & club agreed upon bonuses, of which the maximum is $2million per season.

    Again when we talk about GR’s cap implications we are including 1.5M in schedule B bonuses that the Isles negotiated over and above the league-wide Schedule B bonus numbers outside the cap.

    Can any one confirm GR’s actual terms for 1.5M in TEAM Schedule B bonues AND the current year implications of same? Do they have any real cap implications this year?

  54. YKOil says:

    Was thinking about Hendricks recently. Also thinking about the lack of depth at RHD. Also thinking about Anaheim trying to dump Fowler so they can sign Lindholm and Rackell.

    So… short of forcing Anaheim to trade us Lindholm or Rackell (which won’t happen) I was looking at Montour and Welinski.

    Hendricks and Musil
    FOR
    Stoner and Montour

    We maybe cover $500k of Hendricks in Year 1. Anaheim covers $500k of Stoner in Year 2.

    We are basically buying Montour. I do wonder about Welinski.

  55. G Money says:

    Drew,

    Yup, as a nickname, “Korpse” works on many levels.

  56. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Eastern Oil: I second the vote to have Nan Mouskouri as the RE artist!

    I skimmed the previous paragraph but asssume that it what you said…

    ~ Very little CANCON but lots of USACON, BRITCON, FRENCHCON, GERMANCON, and GREEKCON. ~

    http://www.allmusic.com/artist/nana-mouskouri-mn0000368451/songs/all

  57. Gordies Elbow says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    It’s clearly laid out in exhibit 5.

    Individual “B” Bonuses – League-wide Awards/Trophies and League Performance
    Bonuses Paid by League and/or Club
    Every Player party to an Entry Level SPC shall automatically be deemed eligible for the Individual “B” Bonuses listed below, which, if earned, shall be payable by the League in the
    amounts set forth below. There is no limit on the number of League-wide Awards/Trophy Bonuses and League Performance Bonuses that an individual Player may earn in a League Year
    that are payable by the League. For example, if a Player finishes 2nd in the Hart, 3rd in the Selke and 1st in the Lady Byng, he will receive all bonus amounts associated with each such Leaguewide
    Award/Trophy Bonus. In addition, if he also finishes 3rd among NHL forwards in goals, 2nd in points, and 4th in points per Game, he would also receive all bonus amounts associated
    with such bonuses.

    A Player and Club may also negotiate individual bonuses payable by the Club for the League-wide Awards/Trophy Bonuses and League Performance Bonuses set forth below, except where specifically stated otherwise, in amounts to be individually negotiated between a Club and a Player (the Club and Player could agree to pay more, or less, than the amounts payable by the League, set forth below). The maximum aggregate amount that a Club can pay a Player (in addition to any amounts paid by the League to such Player) on behalf of a Player’s Individual “B” Bonuses is $2 million per season. There is no limit on the quantity (as opposed to the dollar amount) of League-wide Awards/Trophies and League Performance Bonuses a Player may receive from the Club.

  58. Lois Lowe says:

    As always, I will stump for Tom Waits. There’s just so much in his discography that’s worth exploring via an RE series. I think he’s one of the best song writers of the last 30 years.

    Second on my draft list is Prince. I was too young to really understand what he meant to music, but the outpouring of love after his death has made me want to explore his offerings.

    If there is a ‘newer’ band that deserves a shot at an RE, I suggest Radiohead.

  59. Clay says:

    First, nostalgic Lowetide is the best Lowetide.

    That Cagguila NHLE is an eye-popper. If he can produce somewhere in that neighbourhood, and if he’s the agitator we’re led to believe, then Chia has found his Marchand.

    My vote is for Johnny Cash. I wouldn’t be surprised if LT had a story about going to see him perform at The Zoo in La Ronge back in the day.

  60. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    It’s clearly laid out in exhibit 5.

    Individual “B” Bonuses – League-wide Awards/Trophies and League Performance
    Bonuses Paid by League and/or Club
    Every Player party to an Entry Level SPC shall automatically be deemed eligible for the
    Individual “B” Bonuses listed below, which, if earned, shall be payable by the League in the
    amounts set forth below. There is no limit on the number of League-wide Awards/Trophy
    Bonuses and League Performance Bonuses that an individual Player may earn in a League Year
    that are payable by the League. For example, if a Player finishes 2nd in the Hart, 3rd in the Selke
    and 1st in the Lady Byng, he will receive all bonus amounts associated with each such Leaguewide
    Award/Trophy Bonus. In addition, if he also finishes 3rd among NHL forwards in goals,
    2nd in points, and 4th in points per Game, he would also receive all bonus amounts associated
    with such bonuses.

    A Player and Club may also negotiate individual bonuses payable by the Club for the
    League-wide Awards/Trophy Bonuses and League Performance Bonuses set forth below, except
    where specifically stated otherwise, in amounts to be individually negotiated between a Club and
    a Player (the Club and Player could agree to pay more, or less, than the amounts payable by the
    League, set forth below). The maximum aggregate amount that a Club can pay a Player (in
    addition to any amounts paid by the League to such Player) on behalf of a Player’s Individual
    “B” Bonuses is $2 million per season. There is no limit on the quantity (as opposed to the dollar
    amount) of League-wide Awards/Trophies and League Performance Bonuses a Player may
    receive from the Club.

    That is.

    But does anyone know which schedule B items for which amounts make up the 1.5M of schedule B in GR’s NYI negotiated contract?

    Is the chance of hitting some or all of them virtually zero?

    Does the 1.5M have any consequences on current year cap management?

    Or would the 1.5M be cap penalties next year that are unlikely to be triggered this year? (~ not that anyone would object to a cap hit next year if he wins Norris or Smythe or Caldet this year ~)

  61. Gordies Elbow says:

    One other thing to note about the player bonuses, the minimum thresholds for players to achieve schedule A bonuses is listed in exhibit 5. (” Each bonus is stated in terms of both the category of
    performance and the minimum level of performance required for such bonus.”)

    For Nurse and Reinhart, each contract must have at least four of the following ($212,500.00 x 4, but could be more so long as the total doesn’t exceed $850,000):

    (i) Ice time (aggregate and/or per Game). Player must be among top four (4) defensemen on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group). (Note: an Entry Level SPC may contain bonuses for both aggregate and per Game ice time; however, the
    maximum aggregate amount the Player may receive on account of the ice time category is $212,500.)
    (ii) Goals: 10 Goal Minimum
    (iii) Assists: 25 Assist Minimum
    (iv) Points: 40 Point Minimum
    (v) Points Per Game: .49 Points Per Game Minimum (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played)
    (vi) Plus-Minus Rating: Among top three (3) defensemen on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).
    (vii) Blocked Shots: Among top two (2) defensemen on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).
    (viii) End-of-Season NHL All-Rookie Team
    (ix) NHL All-Star Game (selected to play or plays)
    (x) NHL All-Star Game MVP

    Looks like the bonuses are harder to get than I would have thought.

  62. Boondock says:

    Hendricks also had a pretty bad high ankle sprain that he played through for most of the year, you could tell it was affecting his skating quite a bit. Losing Korpse as a linemate and coming back healthy should help his numbers rebound a bit.

  63. Gordies Elbow says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    It has to be one of the listed league wide awards, making the official all star team, or being “A defenseman who finishes among the top ten (10) defensemen in the League in goals, assists, points, points per Game (Minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group) or ice time among defensemen (aggregate and/or per Game. Minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group) shall receive the following bonus amounts:…”

    I don’t believe that it matters what they chose. The threshold is very high.

  64. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    1. Man In Black.
    2. Paul Simon
    3. A bunch of great artists that share some latitude

  65. Drew says:

    LT, Cash or the Hip.

  66. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    It has to be one of the listed league wide awards, making the official all star team, or being “A defenseman who finishes among the top ten (10) defensemen in the League in goals, assists, points, points per Game (Minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group) or ice time among defensemen (aggregate and/or per Game. Minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group) shall receive the following bonus amounts:…”

    I don’t believe that it matters what they chose. The threshold is very high.

    OK. so for Schedule B without knowing the mix it does seem clear the GR could play 82 games and be in little danger of hitting any of the 1.5M

    So the last question is does that 1.5M have any effect on keeping within this year’s cap?

  67. ACalgaryOilFan says:

    Going to throw this out there but one thing I will like the Oilers to do to firm up the roster is to add another Center. Someone who can both mentor Drai but enables him to switch between C and W. I wonder if there is any appetite on either side to bring back Horcoff. I know there is lot of baggage there but he knows the job, would be solid 3C. Outside of the doping issue he sounds like he is good egg. His EV was decent enough for 3C role and you can easily move him down. I also suspect that he would come in at a good price. Thoughts?

  68. Eastern Oil says:

    YKOil:
    Was thinking about Hendricks recently.Also thinking about the lack of depth at RHD.Also thinking about Anaheim trying to dump Fowler so they can sign Lindholm and Rackell.

    So… short of forcing Anaheim to trade us Lindholm or Rackell (which won’t happen) I was looking at Montour and Welinski.

    Hendricks and Musil
    FOR
    Stoner and Montour

    We maybe cover $500k of Hendricks in Year 1.Anaheim covers $500k of Stoner in Year 2.

    We are basically buying Montour.I do wonder about Welinski.

    I believe any salary retainments have to be uniform over the duration of the contract, it cannot be in individual years.

    Small nitpicky thing, otherwise I like it. I do not know player values like most on here but I like Montour and Hendricks can be replaced in Free Agency currently if needed.

  69. speeds says:

    Gordies Elbow: Please note, I’d have Puljujarvi start in the AHL, the following is a worst case scenario for bonuses.
    With McDavid, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi, Reinhart, and Nurse eligible for up to $11.025m in bonuses, they would enter the bonus cushion territory, with a potential projected spend of $75.2m, which is still under the bonus cushion cap ($78.475m, +7.5% of the $73m cap.)

    That said, the odds of paying out all of the schedule B bonuses is almost nill. McDavid is the only true threat to be paid out some of his bonus money, and while I’d love to see him win the Hart or Selke ($250,000), win the Lady Byng ($150,000), Goals/Assists/Points ($150,000) it’s not reasonable to assume that he would be tops in all categories.

    Assuming that all schedule A bonuses are paid out, and 50% of the schedule B bonuses are paid out, the total for the above team would be $71.8m, under the cap by $1.2m.”

    The issue isn’t the potential of the B bonuses being earned so much as it’s the reduction in cap space that comes from having to keep the bonus room open.

    Also,the amounts you mention are for B bonuses paid by the league. We don’t know how everyone’s contract is written re: individual B bonuses, seems pretty unlikely either of GR or JP would actually hit their schedule B bonuses, Draisaitl also seems unlikely but there was a time last year when it looked like he had a decent shot http://hockeysymposium.blogspot.ca/2016/02/performance-bonuses-and-their-impact-on.html.

    Depending how his contract is written, 10th among F’s in any of G, A, points, points per game could trigger all of his B bonuses (1.625M)

  70. Eastern Oil says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    The $1.5 million (or the portion of it based on how many games he plays) has to be accounted for within the salary cap + cushion. So even if it’s extremely unlikely he hits them, it has to be accounted for when he’s up.

  71. speeds says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~: OK. so for Schedule B without knowing the mix it does seem clear the GR could play 82 games and be in little danger of hitting any of the 1.5M

    So the last question is does that 1.5M have any effect on keeping within this year’s cap?

    Yes. Even though the bonuses are unlikely to be achieved, they have to keep the cap room available in case they are. For most teams with a player in GR’s situation where they don’t expect the B bonuses to be earned, those bonuses can be placed/hidden in the bonus overage and never have much of a cap impact, however the Oilers have so many bonuses that they don’t all fit in the overage space, which means they can’t spend as much.

    I covered this topic in a bit more detail in this article after the OIlers traded for Reinhart (situation is different now with Puljujarvi also potentially in the picture, but same basic idea applies)

    http://hockeysymposium.blogspot.ca/2015/06/cap-consequences-of-reinhart-trade.html

  72. Gordies Elbow says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    All potential bonuses paid must stay beneath the bonus cushion, which allows the cap to be exceeded by 7.5%.

    With the roster I listed above, they’re over the cap, but under the bonus cushion. I included Ference on the roster (and have 24 players, which is one to many.)

  73. rickithebear says:

    Soup Fascist:

    Soup Fascist says:

    July 15, 2016 at 9:00 am

    Is Matt Hendricks a “luxury” this team can afford? Good guy by all reports – but he is very likely gone at the end of this year. His skills seem to be eroding and are certainly not enough to justify his ticket to play on the 4th line. His “intangibles” would be valued more on a contender with cap space.

    As I showed earlier.

    the average Record for WC IS
    42w – 28L -12 OT/so 96P

    with a team that is Even PPGF = PKGA
    Special team goal diff = 0
    in the 48 minutes of even play you need to achieve
    +.20 GD to have a chance at that WC record.

    For every -1 GD your team needs to be .045-.05 GD better in GF-GA.
    +1 GD allows you to be .045-.05 GD worse in GF-GA
    +/- 1 SP TM GD = +/- .045-.05
    +/- 2 STGD = +/- .09 – .10
    +/- 5 STGD = +/- .023 – .025
    +/- 10 STGD = +/- .45 to .50

    Elite Special team Forward/ D units are critical to Required Even goal diff.

    EDM STGD last 3 seasons.
    15-16 -5
    14-15 -10
    13-14 -5
    The average PPGF and PKGA is 6.41-6.43

    Hendricks:
    Last year:
    68gm 148.95 PK TOI 2.19 PKmin/gm 37%
    4.43 PKGA/60
    148.95/60 = 2.4825 60 minute segments
    6.41-4.43 = +1.98 PKGA
    1.98 X 2.4825 = +4.9 GSTGD per season.

    Hendricks 1.85M 2.19 minutes of PK unit play means
    our Forwards can score .23-.25 EVGF/60 less.
    or
    Our D can give up .23-.25 EVGA/60 more for the season.

    For years I have tried to say PK is just as important as PP but only cheaper.
    that
    ST is extremely important to the Even Goal diff needs of a team.

    Subban; 9M 68gm 309.2 PPTOI 4.55min 75.8% of PP toi
    6.79 PPGF/60
    6.79 -6.41 = .38
    309.2/60 = 5.15 60min segments
    .38 X 5.15 = + 1.9 STGD for the season
    9M dollars gets you .09 to .10 less GF or More GA from 3/4 of a teas PP TOI.

    Sekera: 5.5M 81gm 186.05 PPTOI 2.30 min/gm 38.3% of PP TOI
    7.42 PPGF/60
    7.42-6.41 = 1.01
    186.05/60 = 3.10
    3.10 X 1.01 = + 3.1 STGD
    which means .13 to .15 less GF or more GA allowed.

    So excuse me if I do not buy into a players PP point numbers!
    that is a team paying for overall goal diff bull shit!

  74. Kiltymcbagpipes says:

    99266in87:
    LT, infrequent poster, but this blog has become my ritual, to the point my kids always say “you on Lowetide again” lol. I read everything. Past few years always start with healthy optimism with the start of the seasons, only to give up by novembers. The new management brought in last year was needed for everything, coaching, building up the roster depth the right way, and building up the team. I’ve seen the passions of THE TRADE and subsequent FA signing(s) and the reactions to them. I’ve really identified with Darcy and kiltymcbagpipes. I’m kilty, passionate about the team on one side, but really trying to get to what Darcy is informing all of us. Darcy, true, we all enjoy the game, the team, but in different ways and forums. I work 2 jobs, putting 3 kids through university, so I don’t have time to analyze numbers to any major degree other than to decipher the posts I read here.My opinions. I understand the Hall trade, even as a fan of him. I do know that structuring the strength has to be done from the back end and up the middle.The team had no real depth, and agree with the numbers guy who said too many shitty players played too much, so last year and this year, drafting Baby Jesus and acquiring Larsson pushes players down where they should be in a proper depth kind of way.Talbot, had concerns with his acquisition last year, being he was a back up brought in to start. So far he’s starting to gain my faith.Many of the FA propositions, on paper and transcribed here look good, only I doubt many of them perhaps were approached and declined signing our team, or maybe chia and TMac didn’t give any thought as potential use within the vision they have, and I’m pretty sure they have one and are staying the course.Draisaitl….doubt he will get an Austin contract, and I personally feel that nuge and Ebs may be held on for a bit until the depth of the team starts simmering up. Chia does answer to the name on his cheque, maybe Katz/Nicholson have long term internal budgets that will be implemented as the contracts get to the end. Connor will be paid, and will be worth every cent.The changes are painful, I just feel it differently, but, my hopeless optimism is actually the most I’ve had in years. Count me a Chia lover, and faith in Coach. OBC, they can go away. It’s not all there….yet, but I think it will be. Don’t ever discount development over the summer of kids so young. We await TC and see. Thanks for reading my post. Just a mid lifer Oiler forever.

    I agree with most of what you said. It is tough for some of us who aren’t familiar with analyticals to totally shift gears but I do recognize it is a part of the game and certainly helps making informed decisions easier.

    Where I think I struggle with analytics is after I watch a game intensely IMO there will be a guy who just didnt make good decisions on the ice, really sucked at doing even the little things right ie. get it out when he had a chance, pinch when he shouldn’t have or just make lazy passes. I’m upset in his performance then read here after the game that based on the fancystats he actually had a good game. The stats totally contradict what I just witnessed having been around hockey for 30 years and coached for 10. So the question is who is right? The answer is – probably both.

    What I have learned from hanging around here (which clearly is the best Oilers site) is We are all looking a the game thru a different lense. Some of us judge the game solely on goals, assists and wins. Others have a more detailed eye looking at the small intricacies of the game that can make a difference. If a guy makes 8 bad decisions on the ice but gets a lucky goal does that equate to a ‘good game’ or ‘bad game’? Taylor Hall drove me nuts because as he did a lot of good things on the ice but also would do some inexcusable things that drive coaches crazy. The even more analytical people tend to wait after the game to review all the stats before forming their opinion. No one is wrong we are just looking at the game from a different perspective.

    I do take issue however with posters who dismiss any notion other than that analytics are THE ONLY WAY to rate players and games. All these fancy stats are great but they don’t make statements like “Player A” had a good game a fact – that is all subjective and depends on who’s evaluating it. Hockey has been evaluated by experts for 100 years to dismiss their hockey minds and knowledge would be ignorant. Likewise, denying the use of analytics would be just as ignorant as it is clearly here to say.

    This site is great because LT offers a happy medium between us knuckleheads who think we know everything by watching the game and the nerds who wait till after the game to analyze the stats. Post more if you can!

  75. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    All potential bonuses paid must stay beneath the bonus cushion, which allows the cap to be exceeded by 7.5%.

    With the roster I listed above, they’re over the cap, but under the bonus cushion. I included Ference on the roster (and have 24 players, which is one to many.)

    Got it. So the issue for his schedule B amounts and any hard to hit Schedule A is fitting into the cushion quota (7.5% of cap)

  76. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Kiltymcbagpipes: If a guy makes 8 bad decisions on the ice but gets a lucky goal does that equate to a ‘good game’ or ‘bad game’

    This is the key question.

    Goals carry more luck than shots. But in a single games even shots carry a lot of luck. So the eye is especially important for single games.

    For half a season shots both ways while on ice are going to tell you a lot as luck washes out a fair bit. Your eyes better be retesting everything shot data is telling you.

    For several seasons of data luck starts to wash out of goals and you can start drawing firmer conclusions on goals alone.

  77. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Hendricks’ most common 5v5 linemates in 2015-16:

    Mark Letestu — 374 mins
    Lauri Korpikoski — 312 mins


    Anton Lander — 124 mins
    Iiro Pakarinen — 102 mins

    All others <100 minutes. Safe to say, QualTeam = Dregs.

    Interesting to compare the +/- of these players, especially the main two who each was on Hendricks' line for roughly half of Hendy's 713 minutes:

    Hendricks +2, BEST among regular Oilers forwards
    Letestu -21, WORST among regular Oilers forwards
    Korpikoski -17, SECOND WORST among regular Oilers forwards

    How can this be?

    Hendricks with Letestu 53.3% GF%; Letestu apart 23.7%
    Hendricks with Korpse 46.7% GF%; Korpse apart 28.6%

    Hendricks with Lander 100% (!) GF%; Lander apart 28.0%
    Hendricks with Pakarinen 66.7% GF%; Pakarinen apart 35.5%

    In particular, the defensive record of all these players went to shit when not with Hendricks. Here is each players GA60 WOWY relative to Hendricks:

    Letestu: 1.12 / 3.40
    Korpse: 1.54 / 3.32
    Lander: 0.00 / 2.53
    Pakarinen: 0.59 / 2.56

    Not sure I would conclude from all this that Matt Hendricks is done.

  78. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Kiltymcbagpipes: This site is great because LT offers a happy medium between us knuckleheads who think we know everything by watching the game and the nerds who wait till after the game to analyze the stats

    ~ G Money watches the games live in 0s and 1s. ~

    “The answer is out there, Neo, and it’s looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to”.

  79. Aron_S says:

    Just wanted to throw my two cents in: if it’s between Cash and Simon, my vote is for Simon.

    Both are excellent, but I feel like Simon nails the LT feel from the RE series.

  80. RedArmy says:

    Play kassian with lucic and mcdavid.

  81. Oilspill says:

    Jaxon:
    I’ve made a spreadsheet of the NHLEs for all the signed Edmonton D I’m happy to share here. Tabs for Draft, Draft+1, Draft +2 and so on to Draft+6. It is interesting to see how the D have developed from a production POV over the course of their careers. It wasn’t the reason I made the sheets, but it gives some interesting perspective on Reinhart. In his draft+3 season, he outproduced the Draft+3s of Sekera, Nurse, Klefbom, Davidson, Oesterle and Fayne. In his Draft+4 season he outproduced Simpson, Fayne and Davidson. Bear looks great on the depth chart. How long it took Klefbom and Paigin to find offense is promising for other players. Simpson and Davidson have similar development curves and have produced relatively well almost every year. LaLeggia’s offense has always been impressive, although last season it took a bit of a dip. I expect him to bounce back this season.

    EDIT: I’VE ALLOWED COMMENTING ON THE SHEET.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12LuSmpazrPD68ROHhNYR9VbH_iqyOmrndMTQS1S-Uu8/edit?usp=sharing

    I don’t really know what math you’re using but Reinhart reacts slowly and for a guy his size is really soft. Kind of like Yak except Yak has wheels when he want to use them. GM’s don’t want big soft guys at D unless they can skate like a MF’R and move the puck with their legs. He should be intimidating but really isn’t. Many of the number munchers think that intimidation has no part (probably because it’s not measurable) but in reality it often creates a change in real possession for the team putting the pressure on puck carrier. Our back end is going to be losing battles this year with the D we have now especially against big or fast teams.

  82. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Gordies Elbow: All potential bonuses paid must stay beneath the bonus cushion, which allows the cap to be exceeded by 7.5%.

    Some serious misunderstanding in what is admittedly a seriously convoluted subject. The bonus cushion allows team to allow for bonuses which may or may not be made, but is capped at 7.5% = $5.475 MM. The Oilers have four guys with bonuses in the range of $2.5 MM in McDavid, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi, and Reinhart (plus a couple more with smaller but still chunky bonuses in Nurse, Slepyshev and Caggiula, but let’s ignore them for the moment.)

    If all four guys make the team, that’s about $10 MM in bonuses, of which only $5.5 can be covered off by the bonus cushion. The remainder will impact the salary cap directly.

    Second and just as importantly: if the team has to dip into the bonus cushion to pay actual bonuses that take the club over the salary cap, the amount of such overages will be deducted from the team’s cap space in 2016-17. That’s huge.

    For that reason expect Chia to be watching his nickels on an ongoing (as in daily) basis. Expect at least one if not two of the bonus babies to spend considerable time in Bako, with Puljujarvi and Reinhart being the obvious candidates. Sucks to be them, but it’s a rare situation indeed where an NHL team has FOUR different top-4 draft picks all on their ELC’s at once. It’s a minefield; the Oilers’ capologist will be a busy man, and he sure as hell better know WTF he is doing.

  83. digger50 says:

    Man, those “beer league hero” bliss are just getting worse and worse. Hard to actually read them as they preach on one hand and beat me on the head with the other.

  84. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Second and just as importantly: if the team has to dip into the bonus cushion to pay actual bonuses that take the club over the salary cap, the amount of such overages will be deducted from the team’s cap space in 2016-17. That’s huge.

    Yes, for next year implications you have to pay close attention to Schedule A. Up to 850K for GR. And yes for this year the 7.5% matters for the full bonus amounts.

    But do you really need to factor in Schedule B penalty implications for next year? 1.5M for GR. If any of these guys hit Schedule B this year, that’s a problem you want to have. Damned cheap schedule B heavyweight hitters in next year’s lineup and you re-shape your roster with that huge win and asset on your belt.

  85. Gordies Elbow says:

    speeds,

    They’re in a much better place with respect to the cap this season.

    General Fanager would have them at $62.5m (with Ference’s buyout.) Even with the bonuses $11.025m for McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse, Reinhart, and Puljujarvi, they’re $500k into the cushion.

    That said, I would hope that some of those players play in Bakersfield. The main point I’ve been trying to make is that, with the current roster, those decisions will be hockey ones, not contract ones.

  86. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Gordies Elbow: The main point I’ve been trying to make is that, with the current roster, those decisions will be hockey ones, not contract ones.

    Understood. About 2/3 of the bonus money for the guys we are concerned about is team paid Schedule B. IF the schedule B parts need but don’t exceed the cushion, there isn’t a lot of real issue.

  87. su_dhillon says:

    LT I picture that 1st paragraph in black and white, kind of like Mayberry minus Otis the drunk.

    Woodguy was nice enough to give me a sneak peak at the the big data dump from WoodMoney, GWood project and man there is so much cool stuff, the East and West splits are awesome addition. Have only scratched the surface but one of first things I noticed was that Taylor Hall basically murdered the East, he’s gonna have a field day.

    Can’t say it enough but really think these 2 guys are on to some very interesting stuff here, cool to be seeing it from ground floor.

  88. Gordies Elbow says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Here is Section 50.5, page 281 of the CBA.

    i) A Club shall be permitted to have an Averaged Club Salary in excess of the Upper Limit resulting from Performance Bonuses solely to the extent that such excess results from the inclusion in Averaged Club Salary of: (i) Exhibit 5 Individual “A” Performance Bonuses and “B” Performance
    Bonuses paid by the Club that may be earned by Players in the Entry Level System and (ii) Performance Bonuses that may be earned by Players pursuant to Section 50.2(b)(i)(C) above, provided that under no circumstances may a Club’s Averaged Club Salary so exceed the Upper
    Limit by an amount greater than the result of seven-and-one-half (7.5) percent multiplied by the Upper Limit (the “Performance Bonus Cushion”).

    That doesn’t speak to a limit on the roster, it speaks to having the Averaged Club Salary exceed the Upper Limit.

    (agree on not wanting bonuses to carry to next year, especially with the buyout(s) on the books.)

  89. speeds says:

    Gordies Elbow:
    speeds,

    They’re in a much better place with respect to the cap this season.

    General Fanager would have them at $62.5m (with Ference’s buyout.) Even with the bonuses $11.025m for McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse, Reinhart, and Puljujarvi, they’re $500k into the cushion.

    That said, I would hope that some of those players play in Bakersfield. The main point I’ve been trying to make is that, with the current roster, those decisions will be hockey ones, not contract ones.

    Because Reinhart essentially has to count at his full 3+M cap hit due to the bonus overage already being maxed out, it makes it easier to replace him and get value via a UFA D, relative to the scenario where he essentially only costs ~1M.

  90. rickithebear says:

    Pakarinen was given PK time year to gage his ability.
    HE got #5 PK forward minutes.
    but was really U2 PK Forward.

    Pakarinen .818M 63gm 73.4 1.17 PKTOI 19.5% of PK
    top 70 PKGA 5.72
    73.4/60 = 1.223 60 min segment
    6.41-5.72 = +0.69
    1.223 X .69 = .844 GD per season
    that #5 PKforward TOI means .038 to .042 Less GF or More GA.

    Zone% which is how I break down the FO aspect of play.
    Hendricks: At even
    26.2% of FO in OZ with 57% of procession gained.
    2.60 OZ FO per game
    33.3% of FO in NZ with 59.6% of procession gained
    3.31 NZ FO per game
    40.5% of FO in DZ with 52.9% of procession gained.
    4.02 DZ FO per game

    Pakarinen: at even
    29.8% of FO in OZ with 52.2% of procession gained.
    2.52 OZ FO per game
    38.6% of FO in NZ with 52.4% of procession gained.
    3.27 NZ FO per game
    31.7% of FO in DZ with 51.5% of procession gained
    2.68 DZ FO per game

    Forthose that were wondering about Wing pairs I showed Yesterday.

    Hendricks 68gm of 10.49 EVTOI
    upr 4th comp with mid 4th teammates.

    Pakarinen 63gm of 9.03 EVTOI
    mid 3rd comp with mid 4th teammates.

    Hendricks – Pakarinen 102 EVTOI
    1.18 GF/60
    0.59 GA/60

    They are a strong FO pocession retrieval pair.
    do not yield HSCA shots
    and
    Do not generate high Corsi count.

  91. LadiesloveSmid says:

    rickithebear,

    don’t generate much for CF but limit HDSCA, drop the Gordon/Larsson OZSs on them?

  92. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    speeds: Because Reinhart essentially has to count at his full 3+M cap hit due to the bonus overage already being maxed out, it makes it easier to replace him and get value via a UFA D, relative to the scenario where he essentially only costs ~1M.

    Huh. 1.5M of that is schedule B team awards.

    1. He virtually can’t hit them.
    2. if he does he’s a better asset that your UFA D and paying the penalty next year is a steal
    3. The only cap question around that 1.5M is do we have room in the 7.5 overage%. Right now they all fit using very little of the 7.5%

    So for now back to hockey questions I think. Not cap questions.

  93. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Gordies Elbow: General Fanager would have them at $62.5m (with Ference’s buyout.) Even with the bonuses $11.025m for McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse, Reinhart, and Puljujarvi, they’re $500k into the cushion.

    Speeds, if these numbers are correct we have about 10.5M in bonus cushion right now which will of course be reduced as we add more cap. So it only becomes relevant as we find things that bring us a lot closer.

    update: read your article from last year. would be interesting to see your update based on current cap situation which has changed from projected (but still will change some more)

  94. Jaxon says:

    Oilspill: I don’t really know what math you’re using but Reinhart reacts slowly and for a guy his size is really soft. Kind of like Yak except Yak has wheels when he want to use them. GM’s don’t want big soft guys at D unless they can skate like a MF’R and move the puck with their legs. He should be intimidating but really isn’t.Many of the number munchers think that intimidation has no part (probably because it’s not measurable) but in reality it oftencreates a change in real possession for the team putting the pressure on puck carrier. Our back end is going to be losing battles this year with the D we have now especially against big or fast teams.

    Umm, okay. Not sure that me saying “it gives some interesting perspective on Reinhart” equates to me saying Reinhart rocks or is awesome or should be playing 2nd pair minutes this season or anything like that.

    It does provide some perspective, though. He is still young. Davidson wasn’t a great skater either with trouble pivoting and he wasn’t and still isn’t exactly intimidating either. He is 3 years older than Reinhart. They have very similar scouting reports (no glaring weaknesses but nothing exceptional either. It is interesting that Reinhart will most likely outscore Davidson in his Draft+0, very close in their draft +1,+2,+3 and Reinhart outscored Davidson in his Draft+4. He also outscored the NHLEs of Klefbom, Oesterle, Sekera and I’m pretty sure he isn’t any softer than all 3 of those guys. Actually, I don’t think many professional scouts would consider Reinhart soft. They may say he should be more physical, but I doubt many or any would call him soft.

    I get it that you might be angry about what it cost to get him, or whatever, but all I mentioned was that it is interesting to see how his production compares with other D in the Oilers’ system. And that wasn’t even the gist of my post.

  95. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Jaxon: I get it that you might be angry about what it cost to get him, or whatever, but all I mentioned was that it is interesting to see how his production compares with other D in the Oilers’ system. And that wasn’t even the gist of my post.

    ~ G.R.T.D.S. ~

  96. speeds says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~,

    Right, they don’t have a lot of room to add much more money due to the bonuses, assuming all the guys with bonuses are on the roster.

  97. Gordies Elbow says:

    speeds: Because Reinhart essentially has to count at his full 3+M cap hit due to the bonus overage already being maxed out, it makes it easier to replace him and get value via a UFA D, relative to the scenario where he essentially only costs ~1M.

    I think that the cap (and cap space) is the biggest difference between this year and last year.

    The cap is at $73m, and with the bonus cushion, $78.475m. With $11.025m in bonuses, your right, they create $5.55m in dead cap space. The maximum that the team can go for Cap Averaged Salary is $67.475m.

    With the Ference buyout, they’re at $62.5m. They could add a player making $4.95m to the current roster without removing anyone.

    If they can find a decent player and sign them, they should do that. If not, they are in a position where keeping players on the roster is a hockey decision, not a contract one.

  98. Cameron says:

    dustrock:
    Totally fine with the CANCON suggestion, but I think The HIp deserve their own RE series, given Gord’s status, their great discography and their unique connection to hockey.

    If I can’t have New Order (a long, long, long shot at best), I am firmly in the Hip camp.

    Seen ’em 3x, always a great show, and a double handful of excellent songs. They are a wicked choice.

    Bobcageon
    Courage
    Locked in the trunk of a car
    Wheat kings
    Its a good life if you dont weaken
    Ahead by a century
    Grace too
    At the hundreth meridian
    Poets (balance?)
    In View

    and of course, 50 Mission Cap

    As the footballers say ‘sheer quality’

  99. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Gordies Elbow: I think that the cap (and cap space) is the biggest difference between this year and last year.

    The cap is at $73m, and with the bonus cushion, $78.475m. With $11.025m in bonuses, your right, they create $5.55m in dead cap space. The maximum that the team can go for Cap Averaged Salary is $67.475m.

    With the Ference buyout, they’re at $62.5m. They could add a player making $4.95m to the current roster without removing anyone.

    If they can find a decent player and sign them, they should do that. If not, they are in a position where keeping players on the roster is a hockey decision, not a contract one.

    Thanks again for all of the numbers. If UFA hockey decisions make dead cap space an issue then then we have dead cap space issues. Not yet. Fine.

    update: If Ference is LTIR all year we can bring up players to use his cap space. I assume that includes the bonus guys and their full hit including bonuses?

  100. Jaxon says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~: ~ G.R.T.D.S. ~

    What does that stand for? G.riffin R.einhart something???

  101. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Jaxon: What does that stand for? G.riffin R.einhart something???

    Griffin Reinhart Trade Derangement Syndrome. The board melts down whenever the trade comes up.

    A bit like T.H.T.D.S. but milder. 😉

  102. Jaxon says:

    dustrock:
    Totally fine with the CANCON suggestion, but I think The HIp deserve their own RE series, given Gord’s status, their great discography and their unique connection to hockey.

    I suggested Tom Waits earlier, but I’m on board for The Hip / Gord Downie as well. Never a better time to go into their catalogue.

  103. Picturesque says:

    Jaxon: I suggested Tom Waits earlier, but I’m on board for The Hip / Gord Downie as well. Never a better time to go into their catalogue.

    I’d also vote for the Hip, even just to see who gets “Nautical Disaster”.

  104. Bag of Pucks says:

    https://www.nhl.com/news/taylor-hall-to-wear-number-9-with-devils/c-281165246

    Seems appropriate, he always reminded me of Glenn Anderson a tad.

    Starting his 7th season, I think Taylor will be playing for his 6th HC, correct? Poor bastard.

    He might make a good coach some day. He’s certainly getting exposure to a LOT of them.

  105. Bag of Pucks says:

    Picturesque: I’d also vote for the Hip, even just to see who gets “Nautical Disaster”.

    Well, ‘the screaming filled my head all day’ whenever I watched Jultz lose his pinch on the PP.

  106. alice13 says:

    I’d love to see an RE themed on a year, that would allow you to mine all kinds of genres and artists with short (one hit wonders!) catalogs. Then we could enjoy the breadth and eclectic depth of your musical curiosity. 35 tracks by one artist always gets to feel like strip mining, where this would be more like picking blueberries at the Waterhen.

    Just in case you weren’t getting enough advice already on this matter….

  107. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Jaxon: Actually, I don’t think many professional scouts would consider Reinhart soft. They may say he should be more physical, but I doubt many or any would call him soft.

    I remember people used to call Randy Gregg “soft”, primarily because he didn’t make it a point of trying to run an opponent through the wall once a period or so. The antipathy of some fans towards big defenders who play more of a “contain” game than a “kill ’em” game has been around longer than I have. Which is to say, a long time.

  108. Protagonist says:

    I hate to be “that guy” when it comes to the Hip, but they are a great Canadian band, and this may be the last RE series that you can have them do the music for while all the original members are alive. :S Tragically Hip or nothing, and fsck cancer.

  109. Bag of Pucks says:

    Serious question, if we could do a time machine re-draft now, should we have simply drafted for need with Larsson or stuck with BPA for Nuge?

  110. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Serious question, if we could do a time machine re-draft now, should we have simply drafted for need with Larsson or stuck with BPA for Nuge?

    Serious question, how could a hypothetical question involving a time machine be a serious question?

  111. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    Picturesque: I’d also vote for the Hip, even just to see who gets “Nautical Disaster”.

    Now I was in a lifeboat designed for ten and ten only
    Anything that systematic would get you hated
    It’s not a deal nor a test nor a love of something fated
    The selection was quick, the crew was picked in order
    And those left in the water
    Got kicked off our pant leg

    Chiarelli.

    Yakupov gets Cordelia in my book. A favorite of mine.

  112. 99266in87 says:

    Kiltymcbagpipes,

    Like I said, I’ve related to you almost all the time. I respect your ability to debate intensely in this forum. 45 yrs in hockey, 20 years coaching. Inactive last 4 years. Chia’s name gets drawn out in the muck over the trade, but honestly, don’t underestimate the power and influence Coach has. Been there. As you would know, everything you need as a coach, you get. Pretty sure TMac was the one who OK’d the change. Silence from some is pretty loud.

  113. lynn says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Hendricks’ most common 5v5 linemates in 2015-16:

    Mark Letestu — 374 mins
    Lauri Korpikoski — 312 mins


    Anton Lander — 124 mins
    Iiro Pakarinen — 102 mins

    All others <100 minutes. Safe to say, QualTeam = Dregs.

    Interesting to compare the +/- of these players, especially the main two who each was on Hendricks’ line for roughly half of Hendy’s 713 minutes:

    Hendricks +2, BEST among regular Oilers forwards
    Letestu -21, WORST among regular Oilers forwards
    Korpikoski -17, SECOND WORST among regular Oilers forwards

    How can this be?

    Hendricks with Letestu 53.3% GF%; Letestu apart 23.7%
    Hendricks with Korpse 46.7% GF%; Korpse apart 28.6%

    Hendricks with Lander 100% (!) GF%; Lander apart 28.0%
    Hendricks with Pakarinen 66.7% GF%; Pakarinen apart 35.5%

    In particular, the defensive record of all these players went to shit when not with Hendricks. Here is each players GA60 WOWY relative to Hendricks:

    Letestu: 1.12 / 3.40
    Korpse: 1.54 / 3.32
    Lander: 0.00 / 2.53
    Pakarinen: 0.59 / 2.56

    Not sure I would conclude from all this that Matt Hendricks is done.

    Jujhar Khaira played only 15 games with the Oilers last season. He played with RNH and Eberle, but he also played on the fourth line. Is it possible to factor him in with your analysis?

    I have high hopes for Jujhar this season. He has surprised throughout his young career–from the BCHL to pro–and stops between. My guess is, by the last third of next season, Jujhar will be a versatile LWer or centre in the bottom six.

  114. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:
  115. Yegfoundation says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    I’ll be cheering for Taylor, poor guy is correct. However, I’m happy he got out of Edmonton.

  116. Diesel says:

    Bruce McCurdy: the Oilers’ … man … better know WTF he is doing.

    Should be fine.

    lol.

  117. JDï™ says:

    Am I too late to nominate Glenn Gould?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_y6q4m0vew

    Or how about a fugue RE series?

  118. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    JDï™: Or how about a fugue RE series?

    Music and Math in Harmony. Gold. Jerry. Gold.

    Who gets the Crab Canon? Asking for a Lobster.

  119. admiralmark says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Serious question, if we could do a time machine re-draft now, should we have simply drafted for need with Larsson or stuck with BPA for Nuge?

    Didnt we draft for need when we chose Klefbom in the 1st round that year? Center and a D.. seems about right. 😛

  120. Chachi says:

    JDï™:

    Or how about a fugue RE series?

    Ah! Bach!

  121. JDï™ says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~: Who gets the Crab Canon?

    Nurse.

    The boy skates backwards just about as well as he does forwards.

  122. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    JDï™: Nurse.

    The boy skates backwards just about as well as he does forwards.

    And his play is upside down at points.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36ykl2tJwZM

  123. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Chachi: Ah! Bach!

    You see, bach in those days, rich men would ride around in Zeppelins, dropping coins on people…

  124. JDï™ says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~: dropping coins on people…

    Trickle down economics, v1.0!

  125. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    JDï™: Trickle down economics, v1.0!

    Also some sports economics from Grampa in that ramble:

    …then we’d all watch football, which in those days was called baseball…

  126. Fog of Warts says:

    Mrs. Stenmark (she had a daughter I had a crush on, but so did every other young male in town) would call, my Mom would leave the message by the phone and I would drop by home during my paper route.

    That sentence. It’s a crab catcher. At the track, if you take the corner just slightly too fast, and you scrub—even a little—it will take you a long time to fully recover. You’re so dead.

    How To Be The Fastest Motherfucker At The Go-Kart Track

    First things first, we must be attentive. While we wait for our turn, it’s easy to get suckered into conversations with our buddies about GT500s, breasts, superchargers, breasts, quarter-mile times and, of course, breasts.

    Wait a moment, what were we talking about again?—oh, right—that sentence. The one with the breasts.

    The worst thing you can do with an indoor go-kart is scrub speed. Full power, flicking the car like a demented rally driver is exciting, but it’s slow. Indoor karting is a game of momentum, where the guy that lifts slightly to avoid sliding, mixed with silky smooth steering, will be the fastest.

    Here’s the problem:

    Mrs. Stenmark (she had a daughter I had a crush on, but so did every other young male in town) would call—uh, oh right, we were back at “Mrs Stenmark” before we started talking about breasts—my Mom—whoa! breasts overboard!—would leave the message by the phone and I would drop by home during my paper route.

    Ignoring the gratuitous trigger word (“mom”), there’s still that mental hitch as we backtrack to “Mrs Stenmark”. She’s not well anchored yet in the narrative—just those two words of address are firmly planted; we’re still digesting the biographical scrap that the dowdy old dame with the heart of gold might well have been a looker herself back in the day—and while that sinks in, there’s a little hitch as our minds reach around the breasts (18 words ago—mmmmm eighteen) and there goes narrative propulsion.

    So we’re all in the tires now, but no worries, because it was a wipe-out worth having (maiboxes, yes; parking meters, not so much), and we’re hammering madly to get back onto the track—like it’s the first day of miniskirt season.

    ———

    From the writer’s perspective, this tends to happen when the subject and predicate are a pair of taciturn, church-going Anglo-Saxons (good morning “Mrs Stenmark”—”a fine morning it is”; “good to see you “Would Call”—”I so loved your sermon last week”—”why, you’re too kind”) wind up seated at opposite ends of a long pew.

    So you try seating the pew like this:

    Mrs. Stenmark would call (she had a daughter I had a crush on, but so did every other young male in town), my Mom would leave the message by the phone and I would drop by home during my paper route.

    Now everything is wrong.

    This dodge works some of the time, but not this time. Along with all the surface problems, it draws the reader into the wrong story. If Mrs Stenmark is calling because Lowetide had a crush on her daughter, why are we digressing here into the horn-dog multitudes? Get with it pal, good or bad, you’re in the ring, on the horn, standing or swimming, stacking the blockers or flashing the leather, one way or another getting it done.

    Of course, we’ve seen this story before. No doubt she’s calling to return some wayward personal effect—yet again.

    This male smitten
    has lost his mitten
    Now slink like a sheep
    and say not a peep
    With a mitten to fetch
    when rather you’d retch.

    ———

    A year to explain your excitement? Mr Lowetide, your therapy shall prove very expensive. Pinch a penny would you, and try Wikipedia under “conditioned response”. Now it’s not like Rexall was the only drug store in town, was it, young man? The Stenmark semaphores semaphore became quite the annual ritual, wouldn’t you say, or can’t you recall? Hmmmm?

    ———

    Now where were we? Oh yes, we were talking Kart.

    In writing, you can scrub a bit of speed here and there, but it quickly adds up.

    And there’s simply no foreseeable logic to the cost of any given verbal interlude. One interlude adds to the picture, while same words elsewhere snag on the context.

    Rule # 11,345: on maintaining the minimum required cognitive distance between “breasts” and “mom”

    Rule # 11,345-A: mom-distance after overt mention of breasts

    Rule # 11,345-B: mom-distance with breasts merely implied

    Rule # 11,345-C: mom-distance with especially awesome breasts implied

    The denser you pack the Dagwood sandwich, the more risk you take on that the two plump olives and the cornichon self-assemble into the nun bun’s mischievous older brother (Lazar! dress properly! you’re scaring your sister).

    ———

    In narrative, the really big stories rarely lack for scalloped cowlings. The roar of the engine, the lash of the sea, the implacable, unseen adversary. If you stick to business, it tells itself.

    There’s a Dilbert cartoon I can’t presently find. I think it begins with Dilbert relating to Dogbert that a first date went well, because she laughed at his best story.

    Dogbert: You know, most people are social liabilities. They only have nine good stories. Then what?

    Dilbert: Have I ever told you about the time I … [forgotten bit].

    Dogbert: That’s still only nine good stories.

    So, errrm, we embellish. It’s not so much the story, but how you tell the story. We add scalloped cowlings.

    And breasts.

    ———

    Unfortunately, the cowlings giveth, and the cowlings taketh away. Wind tunnel, take seventeen (mmmmm, seventeen).

    Instability Questions About Zumwalt Destroyer Are Nothing New

    As the U.S. Navy is poised to award the first construction contracts on its new multibillion-dollar DDG 1000 Zumwalt-class destroyer, experts in and outside the Navy say the radical new hull design might be unstable.

    Given just the right conditions, some say, it could even roll over.

    At least eight current and former officers, naval engineers and architects and naval analysts interviewed for this article expressed concerns about the ship’s stability.

    One former flag officer, asked about DDG 1000, responded by putting out his hand palm down, then flipping it over. “You mean this?” he asked.

    Ken Brower, a civilian naval architect with decades of naval experience was even more blunt: “It will capsize in a following sea at the wrong speed if a wave at an appropriate wavelength hits it at an appropriate angle.”

    You fiddle the words around so as not to scrub propulsion, and nothing seems to work, until you just go “fuck the quartering wave, full steam ahead, MORE kitchen sink”.

    With enough kitchen sink—if you’re lucky—maybe you bounce right off the tires, and back into traffic.

    ———

    Did I ever tell you about my perfect frame?

    You bowl? Rented shoes by the hour? I never would have guessed.

    Noooo, not bowling. It was Kart—my perfect frame on the Kart track.

    What?!

    And now they’re hooked.

  127. Bag of Pucks says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Serious question, how could a hypothetical question involving a time machine be a serious question?

    In my experience, all the best questions involve a time machine.

  128. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Bag of Pucks: In my experience, all the best questions involve a time machine.

    It’s never too late for a time machine. Hypothetically.

  129. Bag of Pucks says:

    admiralmark: Didnt we draft for need when we chose Klefbom in the 1st round that year? Center and a D.. seems about right.

    I’m sure that’s what they were thinking, but unfortunately wanting to have their cake and eat it too didn’t turn out so well.

    Very aggravating draft year for me that season. All of us who wanted to drafted Larsson were overwhelmed by the contingent saying you A) can’t draft for need & B) can’t draft a D that high. It has to be a F.

    So, we pass over the D and then end up trading a 1st OV for him anyway.

    I’m not sure about about the RE, but a perfect song for Oilers fans is ‘Give me back my bullets!’

  130. Bag of Pucks says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~: It’s never too late for a time machine. Hypothetically.

    Hypothetically and theoretically.

  131. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Bag of Pucks: Hypothetically and theoretically.

    Time Machines. A metaphor for blogs. Lots of big talk, but do they ever change anything?

  132. Bag of Pucks says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~: Time Machines. A metaphor for blogs. Lots of big talk, but do they ever change anything?

    Big talk gets a bad rap. I prefer it to small talk.

  133. Bag of Pucks says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~: It’s never too late for a time machine. Hypothetically.

    Btw, you quoted LT’s copy with my handle on this reply. Not sure what the intention is, but if LT says Mrs. Stenmark had a lovely daughter, I’m sure she was a total smoke-show.

  134. Doug McLachlan says:

    The thunder and lightening coming pretty fast and furious downtown – another Oiler trade about to happen? Hockey gods do not seem pleased.

    LT, if you are taking RE-requests, I have to say the Hip for all the reasons cited by everyone. So many good options for iconic tracks. Two that I haven’t seen mentioned that I’m rather partial to are “My Music At Work” and “Gift Shop”. Whatever you choose, I know we will love it but the Hip do seem appropriate.

    From the small sample size department, I see that Adam Larsson had the top pair placement and top TOI numbers from Sweden’s World Championship entry this year in St. Petersberg. Only 8 games but 4pts and 21 shots in 8games is not bad. He was the only NHLer to start with the team (Erik Gustafsson and Mattias Ekholm were airlifted in as Chi and Nsh were eliminated from the playoffs).

    I also see that another piece fell into place in St. Louis. Jaden Schwartz for $5.4 over 5 years is a really good number for them. Poor kid got hammered in negotiations by his injury in a contract year. May have cost him a million a year.

    Not sure if it is enough to let the Blues resign Shattenkirk but they may have more certainly now, if not more flexibility.

  135. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Bag of Pucks: Btw, you’ve quoted LT’s copy with my handle here. Not sure what the intention is, but if LT says Mrs. Stenmark had a lovely daughter, I’m sure she was a total smoke-show.

    Fixed.

    That was Fog of Warts/DMW copy. Or is there something going on here that we don’t know about? 😉

  136. Gerta Rauss says:

    Love the man in black and Paul Simon, but I vote for the Cancon option. It might be my only chance to get Rush, Lightfoot and Cockburn in the RE series (my perennial votes)

  137. godot10 says:

    Aron_S:
    Just wanted to throw my two cents in: if it’s between Cash and Simon, my vote is for Simon.

    Both are excellent, but I feel like Simon nails the LT feel from the RE series.

    If Lowetide does Simon, I hope he uses the original artists, and not Simon’s uncredited interpretation of them.

    Paul Simon is right up there with Jimmy Page in using the work of others uncredited.

    #culturalplagiarists

  138. Woogie63 says:

    If GR is good enough to make the team and help them win, there are lots of levers for PC to pull to get a thoroughbred into the line-up.

    Letestu, Hendricks or Pouliot trades come to mind. Nurse to the farm is another

  139. rickithebear says:

    Top 60:
    Comp
    HSCA D
    SA/60
    PKGA/60

    2007 NHL Draft
    #5 Alzner

    2008 NHL Draft
    #2 Doughty
    #32 Josi

    2009 NHL draft
    #12 De Haan

    2011 NHL Draft:
    #4 Larsson SWE
    #10 Brodin
    #19 Klefbom
    #160 Manson

    #2012 NHl Draft
    #6 Lindholm
    —————————————————-
    Top 90 comp
    Top 60
    HSCA D
    SA/60 D
    Top 60 PKGA

    2008 Draft
    #27 Carlson
    #32 Voynov

    2009 Draft
    #11 Ellis

    2010 NHl Draft
    #162 Davidson

    there are 12 current from the 2007 to 2015 draft.

    Would love to snag ALzner a UFA next year.

  140. Soup Fascist says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Serious question, how could a hypothetical question involving a time machine be a serious question?

    How do we know you are not asking this question from the future, Bruce?

    2nd question, did the Cubs win the World Series in 2016?

  141. godot10 says:

    Griffin Reinhart isn’t slow or soft physically. At the start of last season, he was slow in his decision making, or lacked assertiveness in his decision-making, which made him look slow and soft. He was trying too hard not to make a mistake. instead of just playing.

    His second stint at the end of the season was much better.

    Nurse is the exact opposite of Reinhart. He was overly assertive, which meant it looked like he was running around like a chicken with his head cut off.

    Reinhart has to channel a bit of Nurse. And Nurse has to channel a bit of Reinhart and the Oilers will have too really good defensemen.

  142. Chachi says:

    godot10: If Lowetide does Simon, I hope he uses the original artists, and not Simon’s uncredited interpretation of them.

    Paul Simon is right up there with Jimmy Page in using the work of others uncredited.

    #culturalplagiarists

    El Condor Pasa the royalties to those Peruvian pan flute virtuousos, right? Its not Scarborough fair that he profited off of olde-timey literature right? Cecilia in court Paul!

  143. kinger_OIL says:

    godot10:
    Griffin Reinhart isn’t slow or soft physically.At the start of last season, he was slow in his decision making, or lacked assertiveness in his decision-making, which made him look slow and soft.He was trying too hard not to make a mistake.instead of just playing.

    His second stint at the end of the season was much better.

    Nurse is the exact opposite of Reinhart.He was overly assertive, which meant it looked like he was running around like a chicken with his head cut off.

    Reinhart has to channel a bit of Nurse.And Nurse has to channel a bit of Reinhart and the Oilers will have too really good defensemen.

    – I have no clue if this assessement is correct, but I really like the story!

  144. McSorley33 says:

    godot10,

    Griffin Reinhart isn’t slow or soft physically.
    ********************************************
    Respectfully, GR has slow feet at the NHL level.

    I love the kid. D take longer to ripen…for sure. But I am not sure G will get quicker. I would love to be proven wrong.

    I thought he played exremely well with Oesterle. But make no mistake he needed to have a high end skater with him.

    This will likely limit GR’s ceiling.

    Obviously, he has a ton of tools though…

  145. Water Fire says:

    I can see nobody is ‘man’ enough to admit they liked my Air Supply plug, so I toss in the ring Roger Whitaker, for next time.

  146. Water Fire says:

    And also Dan Hicks,to give the young bucks some musikal ejumukation.

    Edit: bucks and does that is

  147. vishcosity says:

    Regarding time machines, we just got back from a week on a northern california (mendo) farm. For anyone interested in a view of the future, check this link. Its a green house with a retractable roof for light deprivation. The brown thing is a swamp cooler and on the right are chardonnay grapes that didn’t get ripped out for this project.

    Anyway, G I can’t find your email address. For everyone else, scroll away.

    1. If you divide DFF by 38, it would read 1.00 for average, .90 is sub par, 1.30 is elite…I just think it would be easier, at least for me.

    2. I’m suggesting you build a formula because I want to play around with it. While you keep the formulas private, I cannot modulate them and thus cannot find my own regressions. I’d love to change the relative weights of the shot multipliers and see if other patterns form. for instance, instead of making a slap shot 2x, I’d like to try a logarithmic regression from some high probability origin, and similarly, if there was a corsi event within .5 seconds of a backhand (rebound) then I want to consider that as a wiley veteran’s shot/pass and see if it changes the data.

    3. Regarding zone starts, I remember that study, its been shared before, and again I think they’re just tracking zone starts wrong. I don’t know how to fix it, but to me its clear that when Getslaf’s line just jumped over the boards, Lindholm has the puck behind his net, TMc taps a shoulder for the next line up, it’s probably Hendricks and not Yak. That to me is a hard zone start and if he turns it into an ozone high danger chance, I think that is a giant event, as yet, not considered by your metric.

    I can barely program hypertext and I apparently skipped class during Lotus 123. I can’t program scripts but could probably figure out to make a quadratic equation to include 2D integrals and get to use the computer whenever the lady is having a nap.

    Gret99zky: RE the RE: There is a higher probability Nana Mouskouri is chosen for the RE series than a band the younger crowd listens to or suggested. But I guess that’s where the onion meets the belt.

    I actually laughed out loud. Classic.

  148. Water Fire says:

    Best of the weekend friends, I’m off for what looks to be a soggy camping trip with my tribe of hooligans at a beautiful and remote BC mountain lake.

  149. rickithebear says:

    D that are above league average top 90
    SA/60
    HSCA/60
    PKGA

    Lindholm ANA
    Manson ANA
    Despres ANA
    Pesce CAR
    Prout CBJ
    Jokipakka CGY
    Campbell CHI
    Smith DET
    Davidson EDM
    Klefbom EDM
    Larsson EDM
    Martinez LAK
    Muzzin LAK
    Spurgeon MIN
    Petry MTL
    A. Greene NJD
    Ekholm NSH
    Ellis NSH
    Josi NSH
    Dehaan NYI
    Dumoulin PIT
    Burns SJS
    Dillon SJS
    Schlemko SJS
    Gunnarson STL
    Shattenkirk STL
    Parayko STL
    Garrison TMP
    Stralman TMP
    Alzner WSH
    Carlson WSH
    Niskanen WSH
    M. Weber UFA
    J-M Liles UFA
    M. Carle UFA

  150. freedomisamyth says:

    I was worried about the World Cup schedule as well until I looked at the actual schedule. The first pre-season game is after the likely end of tournament for most of our players. Highly doubt the under-24 team makes the semi-finals and their last game is Sept 21, so McDavid, Nuge, Chia and Mclellan should all be back with the team far before the first pre-season game (and the first game is usually mostly scrubs on both teams anyways). Team europe’s last game is the same day. Team Europe has a decent chance to make the semi-finals, so Drai and Sekera may be a little late getting back to the team, but as long as Europe doesn’t make the finals, they should still be good to play in the second Pre-season game.

  151. G Money says:

    McSorley33: But I am not sure G will get quicker.

    That said, I’m pretty quick already. Not great for top end speed, but acceleration and all-directions mobility are excellent.

    Of course, at the current time, demonstrations of these characteristics are followed shortly by demonstrations of how to take care of an inflamed knee and/or achilles.

  152. G Money says:

    OK, dammit, I’m trying to reply to Vishcosity, and the site is eating every post!!

    Will try in the next thread (after I retrieve my oldest child from the Rec centre).

  153. spoiler says:

    Fog of Warts,

    Chasing Princess Peach on Rainbow Road!

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