TRACKING TRAINING CAMP 2016

As the summer rolls lazily along, we get small amounts of information about items great and small. On a blazing Friday, probably time for us to set the possible training camp roster and fill it with some of the names flying around right now.

Foster is an interesting player. Good speed and skill, he has had injury issues during his junior career. A teammate of Tyler Benson, he is listed as a center. As a quick comparison, Tyler Benson (age 17) had an even-strength primary points-per-game total of .567—Thomas Foster had .143. His boxcars (28gp, 8-12-20) are interesting, but he didn’t get his numbers in the same way as Benson (30gp, 9-19-28). Interesting invite, and the first confirmed for the year.

ROOKIE CAMP NAMES

We often get a first blush of invites when viewing the Orientation Camp (this year’s list) so let’s quickly post these names and remind ourselves about them.

  • G Tomas Kral. Czech goalie (like Svoboda) he is a little older (23). Unlikely to be back this fall because the Euro league seasons start early.
  • LD Shane Hanna. He is a 22-year old college man, and has completed three seasons with Michigan Tech in the NCAA. Undersized, can move the puck.
  • LD Mark Auk. Another Michigan Tech LHD, he is 21.
  • RD Jason Fram. Offensive defenseman and graduating junior from Spokane. Boxcars look good, he is 21.
  • RD Nick DeSimone. Another college player (Union College), he is a little bigger (6.01, 190) than the other college invites.
  • C Zach Aston-Reese. Playmaking center has been in NCAA (Northeastern) for three years, 21.
  • C John Stevens. Bigger center from Northeastern, he is 6.02 and was close to a point-per-game.
  • C Tomas Soustal. One of the most talented invites, he is 19 and has two-way skills. 6.03, RHC, Kelowna Rockets.
  • L Jake Lucchini. Impossibly small winger from Michigan Tech.
  • L Brandon Biro. Fabulous resume from Spruce Grove Saint, on his way to Penn State fall 2017. Offensive player.
  • L Peter Zhong.  Small scoring winger with speed and hands, he played at lower levels last year.
  • R Josh Melnick. Playmaking forward from Miami of Ohio, he totaled 48 assists in his final USHL season.
  • R Dominik Shine. Scoring college winger for Northern Michigan, he is one of the older prospects at the camp (23).
  • R Luke Esposito. His uncle is Mark Messier, Esposito is a Harvard man and he was at the same camp one year ago.

No idea if any or all of these fellows will attend, but a good rule of thumb is that Euros and college men are extremely unlikely to be there (for different reasons). Biro and Soustal are the most interesting to me.

AHL CONTRACTS

These are men who have signed with Bakersfield and should be included in the Mark Arcobello, Andrew Miller, Josh Winquist, Marco Roy category.

  • L Scott Allen—A giant (6.03, 198) who came out of college (Alaska-Anchorage) and scored some with two ECHL teams last season. A former Spruce Grove Saints forward, he is on an AHL deal.
  • C-L Joey Benik—Another AHL contract, Benik is a small (5.10, 174) and quite skilled—his St. Cloud State career totals (126 points in 137 games) are impressive. Interesting addition to the team, suspect ECHL time is likely.
  • RD Frank Simonelli—He is a righty blue from the Boston Bruins system, I would suggest he is the new CJ Ludwig.
  • R Jaedon Descheneau—St. Louis Blues (unsigned) pick in 2014, he finishes a fine junior career with the Kootenay Ice. Small and skilled, on an AHL contract with Bakersfield.
  • L Ryan Hamilton—No longer on an NHL contract, he will pull major minutes away from the kids—but is regarded as a solid veteran and mentor.
  • Current AHL roster

STRAGGLERS

  • L Kale Kessy. Not qualified, destination unknown.
  • D Adam Pardy. UFA, destination unknown.
  • D Eric Gryba. UFA, destination unknown.
  • D Nikita Nikitin. UFA, rumored to be heading to Omsk (KHL).
  • C Marco Roy. minor league UFA, destination unknown.

CURRENT 50-MAN LIST

50-man

The Oilers are now at 47, with three slide rules. Now, two of those (Jones and Bear) are likely to slide, Puljujarvi less so. I remain convinced Peter Chiarelli has three roster pressure points:

  • Substantial RHD to fill out the RH side (Larsson, Fayne, ?????). Brandon Davidson may ease that pain if he delivers as he did a year ago (he can play RH side, has done it before, and was splendid on both sides last season).
  • C-W who can play 3C or 3W when Leon slides up to 2R. This is an important depth conversation, because Mark Letestu—who I like—does not have the offensive talent to help deliver enough 5×5 offense on the 3line.
  • A more substantial backup goalie. I think maybe Peter Chiarelli got caught listening to the smooth delivery of former management (who are still in management) about the readiness of Laurent Brossoit.

As of now, the Oilers appear willing to enter their eleventh season in a row out of balance and lacking depth in important areas.

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24 Responses to "TRACKING TRAINING CAMP 2016"

  1. JDï™ says:

    Niki Niki – From Oilers to Omsk.

  2. Lowetide says:

    G Money:
    Eleventh season you say?

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y6P6MDHG0lg/UQQip-jf2iI/AAAAAAAAHLw/WJQCQWMYHLU/s1600/sheldon.gif

    It is incredible. I think we may have had TWO deadlines that they added, and I might be lying to myself about one of them.

  3. v4ance says:

    If MacT or Lowe every leave for whatever reason, I’d like to suggest this new tune that I heard on Mr. Robot the other night:

    “Gwan” by the Suffers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2BgAd0RWo0

  4. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Lowetide,

    ok well we aren’t leaving out big name acquisitions like Smithson

  5. JDï™ says:

    LadiesloveSmid: Smithson

    Remember that time Mike Brown scored that goal?

    Me neither.

  6. Lowetide says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Lowetide,

    ok well we aren’t leaving out big name acquisitions like Smithson

    Haha. God. Oh my God. The two things about Oil Change that are embedded in my brain:

    1. Tambi beaming when Smithsen was acquired (needed right away, he informed them after the trade he would be right there after the baby arrived)
    2. Lowe and Tambi in the plane (or van) talking about Taylor Hall like he was their newborn baby.

    Both amazing scenes, but not in the good way.

  7. Mr DeBakey says:

    C Tomas Soustal. One of the most talented invites, he is 19 and has two-way skills. 6.03, RHC, Kelowna Rockets.

    Reading Soustal’s scouting report makes me even happier than I was about the Oilers drafting the son of former NHLer George McPhee.

  8. Centre of attention says:

    Lowetide,

    I really liked that whole OKC escapade.

    Todd Nelson: “Hey Schultzy, you like like Pablo Escobar with that stache’ there”
    Schultzy: “Its getting pretty greasy yeah”
    Todd Nelson: “I love it”

    I kind of knew at that point Nelson was eventually going to coach the Oilers NHL club. He knew how to connect and relate with the young kids, that’s for sure. Turns out I was eventually right in the end, though it was a shorter stay than I first expected.

  9. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Lowetide: Haha. God. Oh my God. The two things about Oil Change that are embedded in my brain:

    1. Tambi beaming when Smithsen was acquired (needed right away, he informed them after the trade he would be right there after the baby arrived)
    2. Lowe and Tambi in the plane (or van) talking about Taylor Hall like he was their newborn baby.

    Both amazing scenes, but not in the good way.

    I remember the disbelief that the oilers were in a playoff spot at the deadline. Stomped on Calgary twice in a row in maybe the most satisfying consecutive games since, went into the TDL with holes galore and they got Smithson who was maybe a minor improvement on Belanger.

    Team really was no match for STL in that playoff race anyway but man I think they lost like 9 of 10 after.

  10. jake70 says:

    Canadian soccer ladies off to the semis.

  11. JDï™ says:

    Lowetide: Tambi beaming when Smithsen was acquired

    And after only 18 more NHL games with the 13/14 Leaves (missed the playoffs, 84 points), out of the league. Someone wrote about the number of former Oilers who couldn’t make any other team after leaving Edmonton, was it Willis?

  12. Centre of attention says:

    So that American Ledecky just beat the world record by a body length…holy crap.

  13. defmn says:

    “As of now, the Oilers appear willing to enter their eleventh season in a row out of balance and lacking depth in important areas.”

    Actually I think it is longer than that since even the year they went to the SC final they started the season a few bricks short of a full load. It was the trade deadline that rescued that season as I recall.

  14. kinger_OIL says:

    Lowetide: Haha. God. Oh my God. The two things about Oil Change that are embedded in my brain:

    1. Tambi beaming when Smithsen was acquired (needed right away, he informed them after the trade he would be right there after the baby arrived)
    2. Lowe and Tambi in the plane (or van) talking about Taylor Hall like he was their newborn baby.

    Both amazing scenes, but not in the good way.

    – yeah. Also when they interviewed Hall, and like any cocky 18 year kid he said something like: “yes, I want to be the #1 pick, because I want to be the best”

    – MacT and Lowe looked at each other with white heat in their eyes, and you could tell they were like: “f$ck this kid is a stud, what a great answer, he’s our #1 pick” Morons.

  15. Centre of attention says:

    kinger_OIL,

    I heard Seguin ate with elbows on the table at Katz’s house. Plus his team wasn’t as good as the Spitfires. That makes a difference, apparently.

  16. AsiaOil says:

    All you need to know about LB was the series of games at the end of last season when he proved he was nowhere near ready. Some people were calling for him to be recalled and made the starter after Talbot started slow last year – yikes. He needs another year in the AHL and then he might be ready to backup. He was clearly nowhere near mentally ready last season – very fragile at the NHL level. Still baffled why they gave him a one way deal – no reason for that at all. Gustavsson is below average – but here is a question – if you were an above average backup would you have anything to do with the Oilers? Of course not unless there are no better options which is rarely the case for guys who are above average. The Oilers – deservedly – have a reputation as a goalie graveyard and place where careers go to die.

    Oh don’t get me going on Lowe/Tambo/MacT and the Smithson deadline deal. Those guys completely sold out the team and fans who were in a playoff spot at the deadline. No way they wanted Kruger and clueless Tambo to look good as the knives were coming out in the off-season to get rid of both and install MacT and his guys. They thought they had turned north and were ready to step in to pick up the glory. If MacT keeps hanging around then look for a reprise down the road. I actually feel sorry for poor clueless Tambo (he was always Lowe’s sock puppet) but the others knew exactly what they were doing and there was no honor in it – not a shred.

  17. CurtisS says:

    Do we really have the defensive talent to run 3 offensive lines? I think that is the real question before we get to excited for 3 offensive lines. I know alot of fans think we have the talent up front to do so, but if they cant get the puck is it counter productive?

  18. Lowetide says:

    CurtisS:
    Do we really have the defensive talent to run 3 offensive lines? I think that is the real question before we get to excited for 3 offensive lines. I know alot of fans think we have the talent up frontto do so, but if they cant get the puck is it counter productive?

    I don’t think they have three offensive lines anyway, unless Caggiula surprises or they sign Vesey/.

  19. West says:

    Josh Manson, there we go. What would be the draft pick value for a right shot*, tough, steady, middle/bottom pair defender**?

    *short supply, high need across league
    **oilers top 3 d neeeds more quality support, this will lessen the chances of an injury to dreamy and davey, this last bit is a guess, that i would love to see tested by an acquisition

  20. AsiaOil says:

    I would not trade a draft pick for another RHD as we have a ton of LHD as trading chips. Davey has that sweet contract, Nurse is expansion draft exempt, so GR is the obvious choice – but we will see. What makes the most sense is to play half a season and evaluate where these three players are – and then trade in the new year with a better understanding of what you are giving up. But Trouba/Lindholm still need to be signed and you would think something will break loose soon in WPG and ANA – same with FLA and all those RHD.

  21. rickithebear says:

    West:
    Josh Manson, there we go. What would be the draft pick value for a right shot*, tough, steady, middle/bottom pair defender**?

    *short supply, high need across league
    **oilers top 3 d neeeds more quality support, this will lessen the chances of an injury to dreamy and davey, this last bit is a guess, that i would love to see tested by an acquisition

    Josh manson
    #56 comp (1st pair)
    #11 HSCA D
    #1 SA/60 21.62
    #20 EVGA 1.74
    #1PKGA D
    He is were davidson is hopefully moving to this year.
    Manson is just short of the top 5 Def D group.

  22. Frank the dog says:

    I suspect that there was a lot more going on behind the scenes off the ice, outside the locker room and away from the players since Kat took control.
    We’ll know more as the season progresses and we’ll have a definitive answer by end of season. While I have become a supporter of removing Taylor Hall in the face of intense disagreement from LT and WoodMoney,, I ha ve come to suspect that this could become small cheese if the team were, to evertone’s surprise, explode out the gate and make the playoffs.
    Nothing to argue about, we,LL see as time progresses.
    Either Katz is a master strategist or we have witnessed the moat ineptly coached and managed, and unluckiest team the league has ever seen.

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