RE 16-17 LAURENT BROSSOIT: DID YOU FALL IN LOVE WITH ME?

The Edmonton Oilers telegraph things, have forever. For instance, the organization loves Laurent Brossoit, bigly. I know it, you know it, but the Oilers continue to show it—in every move they make. (Did You Fall In Love With Me?)

LAURENT BROSSOIT 15-16: 5GP, 3.61 .873

  1. He was awful! He played five games, you can’t gather much from his NHL time.
  2. What about AHL time? He is good, two years in a row now. This is a solid prospect.
  3. How good are his AHL numbers? He was No. 10 in save percentage among starters, up from No. 17 a year ago. He has progressed well and could have a legit NHL career in my opinion.
  4. How does he compare to Devan Dubnyk? In his final minor league season, Dubnyk finished No. 14 with a .915 save percentage, so they are in a similar range.
  5. Can he be as good as Dubnyk? What I don’t know about goalies is a lot, so what I am prepared to say is that this young man has a solid resume.
  6. You don’t like him, though. I have him No. 12 on the latest Top 20, but he is among the most NHL-ready players in the system.
  7. Why don’t you have him higher? Goalies are extremely valuable when they hit, but rarely hit.
  8. What? Brossoit might be a starter in the NHL, but the odds are more likely he will back up someone. Even more likely is that we see him for a year or two more and then he ends up in the KHL. Goalies who do not become NHL starters from Brossoit’s current ‘You are here’ spot are myriad.
  9. This is based on history of AHL goalies? Yes. Nothing about Brossoit, who may be the exception to the rule.
  10. No matter, Oilers will lose him in the expansion draft. We have a year to go, so it could happen, but I think the new team in Vegas will have better options. I wish the NHL would have allowed Las Vegas to take as many goalies as they wanted, might have been a test for them and other NHL general managers.
  11. Do you think he could be better than Gustavsson? Yes. I think there is every chance Brossoit wins the job, or proves more in camp. I also think the Oilers will figure they can risk sending Gustavsson down based on his own resume. Suspect that was a key element for him.
  12. Have the Oilers brought Brossoit along well? Yes.
  13. That was not the answer I was expecting. Heh. I am a big believer in making sure prospects establish they can handle a certain level before moving on. Baseball teams are far better at this than most NHL teams—Detroit is good at it in the NHL—but give the Oilers credit the club has handled their goalie well.
  14. Who on the management staff likes him? Well, MacT traded for him and he may be Brossoit’s inside champion.
  15. Inside champion? Yes, we talked about this when discussing Brandon Davidson. Someone, maybe MacT, has been sitting in evaluation meetings trumpeting this young man. That is important.
  16. Why? Do you remember when MacT took over, he waived Rajala bought him out, traded Hartikainen, laid waste to the minor leaguers. He did it because those weren’t his guys and a new general manager is going to make over his team. Chiarelli may have done that with Davidson or Brossoit without the inside champion.
  17. Too bad Marincin didn’t have an inside champion. Yes, completely fair. That said, Davidson was waiting in the wings and we are here.
  18. What is good about Brossoit? His established level of ability is No. 1 goalie in the AHL. The next step is ahead and the Oilers have an opportunity for him.
  19. What is bad about Brossoit? The Oilers should have made it a little more difficult to make the NHL.
  20. In your opinion. Yes.
  21. Why this song? The heart wants what it wants. Someone in the Oilers management group feels a need to push Brossoit into the NHL this season. I might have kept him in the AHL, making him appear to have less value in front of the expansion draft. Doubt it matters either way.
  22. Is this it for the RE? One more player to go, a position player we will discuss tomorrow night.
  23. Is this a playoff team? I think they are a little shy at this time.
  24. Is that the Brossoit RE below? Yes.
  25. Can you publish the complete goalie RE too? Sure. It is below.

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31 Responses to "RE 16-17 LAURENT BROSSOIT: DID YOU FALL IN LOVE WITH ME?"

  1. PokeCheck says:

    Unless Brossoit waltzes in this season and has a run like Andrew Hammond, I feel the chances of us losing him to the expansion draft is zero. He’s not like a John Gibson or Andrei Vasilevskiy going back a few seasons where they were on tons of peoples’ radars outside of their home markets. If he were a risk for the draft there’d already be teams trying to pry him from our hands.

  2. Mr DeBakey says:

    .873 huh?
    Thank Gawd the sample size was tiny.

    * * * *

    Looks like folks have run out of things to say after four posts within 24 hours on an August week-end.
    The problem compounded by the extra post for the Benning signing and the Friday morning post going overtime because the Gustavsson post accidentally ran at 5:00 American Samoa time.

  3. Lowetide says:

    Mr DeBakey:
    .873 huh?
    Thank Gawd the sample size was tiny.

    * * * *

    Looks like folks have run out of things to say after four posts within 24 hours on an August week-end.
    The problem compounded by the extra post for the Benning signing and the Friday morning post going overtime because the Gustavsson post accidentally ran at 5:00 American Samoa time.

    Haha. My timing was buggered because I had a tip on Benning and the signing was not made public. By 5pm local time I am into the beer or wine or both, so 9pm was a pretty good pace for the Gustavsson. 🙂

  4. bobinyvr says:

    Holy Smokes .. I was reminiscing about Oilers days of yore.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=1794

    Here’s a curiosity or two about Grant Fuhr’s career.

    Played 1980-81 Victoria Cougars in WHL.

    Played 1981-82 Edmonton Oilers NHL .. 48GP 3.31 GAA 0.899 Save Pct.

    Lowest GAA with Oilers in 1990-91 at 3.01 0.897 Save Pct.

    Wow, those were exciting times. Stunning numbers compared to now.

  5. Woodguy says:

    *****SPAM*****

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    I had a deeper look at Larsson vs Severson

    http://becauseoilers.blogspot.ca/2016/08/a-deeper-look-at-larsson-vs-severson.html

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  6. Lowetide says:

    bobinyvr:
    Holy Smokes .. I was reminiscing about Oilers days of yore.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=1794

    Here’s a curiosity or two about Grant Fuhr’s career.

    Played 1980-81 Victoria Cougars in WHL.

    Played 1981-82 Edmonton Oilers NHL .. 48GP 3.31 GAA 0.899 Save Pct.

    Lowest GAA with Oilers in 1990-91 at 3.01 0.897 Save Pct.

    Wow, those were exciting times. Stunning numbers compared to now.

    The crazy thing is that Edmonton had just found their goalie of the now and the future. Andy Moog played 1979-80 in Billings of the WHL and then 1980-81 in Wichita of the CHL (pro). AND THEN he came to the NHL later that year and won our hearts. Rang the chimes twice in two years and then nevermore.

  7. Westchester Oil says:

    Lowetide – 12 empty net goals sounds a bit high. Do you know how many they’ve had last year on in other recent years?

    I’m still dreaming Nick Ellis turns into an NHL back-up next year – but I wouldn’t have to have these dreams if we signed Enroth instead of Gustavsson.

  8. Glass says:

    Westchester Oil,

    Maybe Enroth didn’t want to play here?

  9. Lowetide says:

    Westchester Oil:
    Lowetide – 12 empty net goals sounds a bit high. Do you know how many they’ve had last year on in other recent years?

    I’m still dreaming Nick Ellis turns into an NHL back-up next year – but I wouldn’t have to have these dreams if we signed Enroth instead of Gustavsson.

    Talbot 7, Nilsson 6 and Brossoit 1 a year ago.

  10. Woodguy says:


    Edmonton OilersVerified account
    ‏@EdmontonOilers
    Will you be the #Oilers voice at @RogersPlace?! 🎙 The search is on for our PA announcer: http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=114057

    Everyone needs to yell at LT until he applies for this.

  11. JDï™ says:

    Woodguy: Everyone needs to yell at LT until he applies for this.

    He would be perfect for this – until he writes something critical about the org and they fire him.

    Or more likely they tell him to choose between VOilce and Lowetide.

  12. Ray says:

    Woodguy:

    Edmonton OilersVerified account
    ‏@EdmontonOilers
    Will you be the #Oilers voice at @RogersPlace?! The search is on for our PA announcer: http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=114057

    Everyone needs to yell at LT until he applies for this.

    LT, you need to apply!

  13. godot10 says:

    People forget that Dubnyk couldn’t stop a beach ball in his first NHL stint either:

    Devan Dubnyk’s first serious NHL look:
    2009-10 Edmonton Oiler 19 0 0 1075 64 1 0 3.57 4 10 2 515 0.889

    vs.

    Laurent Broissoit

    2015-16 Edmonton Oilers 5 0 0 298 18 0 0 3.61 0 4 0 124 0.873

  14. godot10 says:

    Re: Benning

    Dillon Simpson is likely closer to the NHL than Matt Benning. It is sort of silly to think Benning is going to make it out of camp after one year in the AHL, whereas two years in, Dillon Simpson hasn’t gotten a look yet, and he arguably, had a better college career in a more difficult conference.

    Arguably, Laleggia had a better college career also, and after one year he is not close.

    Oesterle is close after two years.

    And Stauffer has Benning “winning the Norris Trophy”.

  15. Chachi says:

    godot10:
    Re: Benning

    Dillon Simpson is likely closer to the NHL than Matt Benning.It is sort of silly to think Benning is going to make it out of camp after one year in the AHL, whereas two years in, Dillon Simpson hasn’t gotten a look yet, and he arguably, had a better college career in a more difficult conference.

    Arguably, Laleggia had a better college career also, and after one year he is not close.

    Oesterle is close after two years.

    And Stauffer has Benning “winning the Norris Trophy”.

    This would all be correct, except for the bizarre Stauffer reference, if Benning shot left. He doesn’t shoot left and Chiarelli thinks the lefty righty d-pairing is a thing. But you know all of this already.

  16. Woodguy says:

    godot10:
    Re: Benning

    Dillon Simpson is likely closer to the NHL than Matt Benning.It is sort of silly to think Benning is going to make it out of camp after one year in the AHL, whereas two years in, Dillon Simpson hasn’t gotten a look yet, and he arguably, had a better college career in a more difficult conference.

    Arguably, Laleggia had a better college career also, and after one year he is not close.

    Oesterle is close after two years.

    And Stauffer has Benning “winning the Norris Trophy”.

    If Simpson or Laleggia were RH I’d agree, but handedness matters and it matters to Chia.

    Also,

    Bob was a bit over the top in his first tweet (dialed it back after), but not near what you are saying.

  17. ~ Hall of Shame ~ says:

    Woodguy:

    Edmonton OilersVerified account
    ‏@EdmontonOilers
    Will you be the #Oilers voice at @RogersPlace?! The search is on for our PA announcer: http://oilers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=114057

    Everyone needs to yell at LT until he applies for this.

    With Bruce dropping by one a week to assist with the penalty announcements denouncements. Watch the refs jump whenever the organist starts the woo woo music. Astronomical fines.

  18. JDï™ says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~: Astronomical fines.

    Right up Bruce’s alley.

  19. godot10 says:

    Woodguy: If Simpson or Laleggia were RH I’d agree, but handedness matters and it matters to Chia.

    Handedness doesn’t mean one develops or transitions to the next level faster.

  20. Ray says:

    When reading Bennings scouting reports he almost sounds like a Steve Staios type.

    Has anyone else thought the same?

  21. Big Dan says:

    Lowetide, you are so hard on Broissoit. Those stats are ghastly!

    Yeah he had a rocky start to his NHL career but most do. This kid will be backing up Talbot for a decade from 2017-18 on.

    Gustavsson was brought in as a stop gap to give Broissoit one more year in the AHL to work on a few things. Broissoit is a good hard working goalie and a really good person, easy to cheer for. He also loves the city of Edmonton.

    My prediction for this year= 9 games, 3-3-1, .901 %

    If Talbot struggles after his wife has twins, we’re doomed. But after this season, he and Broissoit will be a dandy tandem.

  22. Big Dan says:

    Ray:
    When reading Bennings scouting reports he almost sounds like a Steve Staios type.

    Has anyone else thought the same?

    I would love that! I remember thinking Anton Belov would be like Staios too.

  23. Bruce McCurdy says:

    ~ Hall of Shame ~: With Bruce dropping by one a week to assist with the penalty announcements denouncements. Watch the refs jump whenever the organist starts the woo woo music. Astronomical fines.

    “Oilers penalty to #93, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, two minutes for Deigning To Check Dustin Brown. The NUGE for pete’s sakes. Brutal! The time, 4 minutes 53 seconds. RNH, ticky-tack, at 4:53.”

  24. Woodguy says:

    godot10: Handedness doesn’t mean one develops or transitions to the next level faster.

    Opportunity.

  25. magisterrex says:

    Bruce McCurdy: “Oilers penalty to #93, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, two minutes for Deigning To Check Dustin Brown. The NUGE for pete’s sakes. Brutal! The time, 4 minutes 53 seconds. RNH, ticky-tack, at 4:53.”

    I would live for penalty calls.

  26. theDjdj says:

    Woodguy:
    *****SPAM*****

    New Because Oilers:

    I had a deeper look at Larsson vs Severson

    http://becauseoilers.blogspot.ca/2016/08/a-deeper-look-at-larsson-vs-severson.html

    *****END SPAM*****

    Great as always, Woodguy. It seems that Larsson is an outlier in possession metrics. Do you think we eventually move away from Corsi as a comparative metric? Can’t wait til the Larsson RE

  27. Jaxon says:

    Not bad. 226 GA moves them from 13th to 8th in GA in the West. If they can get the GF into the 6th place range (in the 226 GF range as well) then we should like their chances of reaching the playoffs. Would feel a lot better if they could have landed a decent backup to get into the .918 to .920 range on the season.

  28. PhrankLee says:

    For my money this is one of the greatest Canadian songs ever written.

    Great thanks, LT.

  29. Jaxon says:

    Big Dan:
    Lowetide, you are so hard on Broissoit.Those stats are ghastly!

    Yeah he had a rocky start to his NHL career but most do.This kid will be backing up Talbot for a decade from 2017-18 on.

    Gustavsson was brought in as a stop gap to give Broissoit one more year in the AHL to work on a few things.Broissoit is a good hard working goalie and a really good person, easy to cheer for.He also loves the city of Edmonton.

    My prediction for this year= 9 games, 3-3-1, .901 %

    If Talbot struggles after his wife has twins, we’re doomed.But after this season, he and Broissoit will be a dandy tandem.

    Huh? You say Lowetide was hard on him and then you give him only 1 more game and a lower save percentage. I don’t get it.

    Ahh. The numbers at the top are his record last season. The numbers at the bottom are Lowetide’s prediction for this season. Is that what happened?

  30. magisterrex says:

    Three names trademarked by Vegas team owner. I’m surprised that “Las Vegas Ace in the Holes” isn’t one of them.

  31. Water Fire says:

    Woodguy:
    *****SPAM*****

    New Because Oilers:

    I had a deeper look at Larsson vs Severson

    http://becauseoilers.blogspot.ca/2016/08/a-deeper-look-at-larsson-vs-severson.html

    *****END SPAM*****

    Great insight. It fits my view that Larsson’s player type has very high and underrated value to winning, more so than the large majority of Corsi kings that defend unpredictably.

    The hardest part of hockey is having success on all parts of the ice and it’s very rare IMO. If Larsson gets his points up I think he will be in the convo of amongst the best in the league.

    Something that also excites me about Larsson is he’s only 2 years older than Severson and pre prime likely, so him being so much better is cool.

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