G4 2016-17: HURRICANES AT OILERS

I will never forgive the Hurricanes. That 2006 Oilers team worked their collective asses off and found a way despite not getting a goalie until half past Valentine’s Day. To lose to the Hurricanes—who once played in a mall—remains a heartbreaking and noxious memory. You can say get over it, and I have tried. Pisani scores that goal in the third period, Oilers win. I believe it. Give me another 10 years, I will try to get over it. Promise.

LONG TRAIN RUNNING, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 0-3-0, goal differential -6
  • Oilers in October 2016: 2-1-0, goal differential +1

Game 4 one year ago was a 4-2 loss to the St. Louis Blues (at Rexall) that would see the first goal of the season for Taylor Hall and Lauri Korpikoski. Cam Talbot stopped 25 of 29 and the season was heading south in a quick hurry. Edmonton would recover (4-4-0) over the last portion of the October schedule but the 0-4-0 start was a killer. In the Bettman extra point era, going down six points (for a poor team) means never having to worry about playoff talk. Ultimate buzz kill, like those kisses from Aunt Stella (may she rest in peace) a young Lowetide would try to flee every time we visited her in Vancouver.

DEFENSE, 2016-17

defense-last-night

This is via NHL.com and NaturalStatTrick. So far this season, Edmonton is running Klefbom—Larsson, Sekera—Russell and Nurse—Gryba (since the Davidson injury). The six blue lack a hammer for the power play, and you would like to see Davidson back soon. That said, the blue line has been much improved to my eye season over season.

after-3-15-16-blue

It would have been (this is from memory) Sekera—Fayne, Klefbom—Schultz and then the rest. If we take Sekera, Klefbom, Davidson and Gryba out of the conversation, how many of this year’s blue do you consider better than a year ago?

  • Adam Larsson versus Justin Schultz
  • Kris Russell versus Mark Fayne
  • Nurse versus Ference

The Oilers sent Matt Benning to Bakersfield yesterday, leaving Mark Fayne as Stone Alone seventh man. I don’t think they can trade the contract, and at some point he will need to get some ice time. We could see him on a conditioning stint at some point later in the month. I think he is a helluva No. 7 defender, but there are very few members of the Mark Fayne Marching and Chowder Society these days—we meet in a phone booth.

FORWARDS, 2016-17

forwards-last-night

This is all even strength totals, and shows a strong forward group based on points-per-60 at even strength. Early days of course, but there are seven forwards over 2.50 points-per-60 so far this year. Music! McDavid is beyond the space time continuum, Leon is killing it and Eberle plus Lucic are starting to post numbers. Good secondary help from Pitlick and Kassian, plus signs of life from Pouliot—Nuge. This is a good set of numbers, especially compared to this time last season.

forwards-after-g3-15-16

Edmonton scored only three goals in the first three games of last season, as you can see it was pretty damned depressing. Still, Taylor Hall, Nail Yakupov and Teddy Purcell were in this group, so there were two men who could push the river and some helpful wingers skating about a year ago. Luke Gazdic was on this team, Rob Klinkhammer, Lauri Korpikoski. Do you prefer last year’s forwards?

 LAURENT BROSSOIT RECALLED

Laurent Brossoit had a nice run during preseason (2gp, 2.00 .942) with the Oilers and finds himself back for an early recall. Jonas Gustavsson had 10 perfect minutes (one shot against) before getting hurt in the Buffalo game on a fluke play. This is a period in the season where Talbot should be able to play all of the games, and since a good start is vital, we should expect it. I do believe Edmonton looks at Brossoit as a long term answer, possibly a future starter. The question I have is this: How good is Nick Ellis? He will likely start in the Bakersfield game tonight and begin his pro career. Two legit goalie prospects hasn’t been seen around these parts since the Dubnyk-Deslauriers wild times.

TOP LINES IN 2016-17

Early days of course, but the insane possession number being posted by the McDavid line made me wonder where the trio ranks league wide. Courtesy Corsica.Hockey, here are the top 5 lines in Corsi for 5×5 percentage so far this season:

  1. Jeff Skinner—Victor Rask—Lee Stempniak CAR 75.68
  2. Jonathan Marchessault—Aleksandr Barkov—Jaromir Jagr FLA 69,57
  3. Chris Kreider—Mika Zibanejad—Pavel Buchnevich NYR 66.67
  4. Milan Lucic—Connor McDavid—Jordan Eberle EDM 63.46
  5. Daniel Sedin—Henrik Sedin—Loui Eriksson VAN 61.22
  6. Source

Interesting for two reasons. First, the line is storming the gates in a big way, this despite a fairly large group of voices wondering if Lucic is going to be able to play successfully with McDavid. I would argue this is pretty successful. Second, we will see the top line in the NHL (so far, early in the year) tonight—via the Carolina Hurricanes!

BENOIT POULIOT

We had a spirited discussion yesterday on the Round Table (I was ill-mannered at one point, and apologize) yesterday morning on TSN1260 in regard to Benoit Pouliot. I argued that the penalties in the offensive zone—while a negative—are shrapnel from all of the excellent forechecking he does each game. He is also a strong offensive performer 5×5 and a good linemate for any center. I am very encouraged that Todd McLellan has him back in the lineup.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Matt Henderson, Oilers Nation and Hockeybuzz. Oilers so far this season, holes in the roster.
  • Rob Soria, The Hockey Writers. Oilers goaltending situation, plus Blue Jays.
  • Scott Cullen, TSN. Blue Jays, McDavid, Matthews and the Carey Price situation.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter.

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  1. square_wheels says:

    Larson eating seconds instead of banging it off the glass…….seriously folks, he’s the goods.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Never in doubt.

  3. russ99 says:

    Damn, Talbot saved our bacon.

    Not pretty, but I’ll take it.

    Need to play a lot better Thursday or the Blues will crush us,

  4. REDRIGGER says:

    Longest .3 seconds ever lol

  5. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Big bounce back game from Talbot. Wish him and Ms Talbot the best of luck tomorrow morning!

  6. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Talbot bounces back big time, great game from him

  7. dustrock says:

    Enjoy fatherhood, Cam. There is nothing quite like it.

  8. G Honey Bunches of Oats says:

    The first minute, the middle minute, and the last minute were frightening af

  9. Ice Sage says:

    and… un-clench

  10. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    HOLY SHIT MCDAVID HAS NO POINTS IN 2 TRADE his ASS

  11. treevojo says:

    Admiral Ackbar:
    Larsson, brutal…..

    Yikes. Giveaway + penalty.

    If hall did that he probably would have fist pumped and blamed his goalie?

    Team guy?

  12. REDRIGGER says:

    If we want a sniff of a playoff spot we are going to need above league average goaltending. Well above

  13. Wolfie says:

    Gutsy, gutsy effort.

  14. Seismic Source says:

    Lot of Western teams losing tonight. Huge win even if it is game 4.

  15. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Seismic Source:
    Lot of Western teams losing tonight. Huge win even if it is game 4.

    I think the one thing I’ve realized watching over the last 10 years – every game is important.

  16. REDRIGGER says:

    If not for a suspect goal and a lucky goal on ward. Very different game. We got lucky I’d say.

  17. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    So the flames win on a blatant non call. gg

  18. admiralmark says:

    Well that game instilled zero confidence for me and this team. That last period reminded me of a lot Oiler games in recent years. Only difference is the goalie saved the game. Its win… But man loooooong ways to go.

  19. Lucinius says:

    So, we get the win, which is fantastic, despite the closeness of it.

    Surprised at McDavid going pointless two games in a row (and apparently missing empty nets!?), but I think McDavid himself would happily take 0s personally in exchange for the team getting 2 points.

    In other news…

    Petry with 2 assists tonight; gives him 2 g, 2 a in 2 games. I miss that man.

    Hall getting 2 goals was nice to see, even if I don’t care for him personally. I was just never a huge fan of his; never disliked him or anything, merely never really cared one way or another about him. It is, however, always nice to see ex-Oilers do well, especially when they aren’t playing the Oilers!

    And, of course, Buffalo screwed the pooch. Had the lead and gave it away and end up losing to the Flames in OT. Bleh. Stupid Buffalo.

  20. Pouzar says:

    WheatNOil ‏@WheatNOil 3m3 minutes ago View translation
    Zone Exits
    Total / % Controlled
    Klefbom 10 / 50%
    Larsson 11 / 55%
    Russell 12 / 42%
    Sekera 11 / 64%
    Nurse 8 / 100% (!)
    Fayne 1 / 0%

  21. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    admiralmark,

    In years past they lost this game but today they won. That’s progress, next step is to eliminate that 2nd goal against.

    And they are first in the Pacific right now and have already lost two dman and a goalie. Damn you people are a tough crowd haha

  22. jm363561 says:

    Russell 8 blocked shots!

  23. G Honey Bunches of Oats says:

    Almost a mirror image of the BUF game I’d say.

    Lots of dangerous chances the last game, but a few bad mistakes and whiffed chances and bad goaltending, and it’s an L.

    Lots of dangerous chances for CAR, but they whiffed a few, and when they didn’t, Tal-Bot 3000 was there to save the day.

  24. Klima's_Bucket says:

    jm363561,

    That’s just because he is incapable of moving the puck.
    #FeedTheNarrative

  25. LadiesloveSmid says:

    thought Nurse had a strong game, ran one of the better HDSC%s on the team

  26. Rebilled says:

    Never in doilers.

    Great 2 points!

  27. --hudson-- says:

    Didn’t Nurse make the giveaway on the first Canes goal?

    Pouzar:
    WheatNOil ‏@WheatNOil3m3 minutes ago View translation
    Zone Exits
    Total / % Controlled
    Klefbom 10 / 50%
    Larsson 11 / 55%
    Russell 12 / 42%
    Sekera 11 / 64%
    Nurse 8 / 100% (!)
    Fayne 1 / 0%

  28. admiralmark says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    admiralmark,

    In years past they lost this game but today they won. That’s progress, next step is to eliminate that 2nd goal against.

    And their first in the Pacific right now. Damn you people are a tough crowd haha

    True. And I should of added you could see the effort and determination was there. I am concerned that teams are learning to bottle up McDavid because the other lines seem to be almost zero threat to score.

  29. G Honey Bunches of Oats says:

    Nice game for Nurse, who led the defenders (exc Fayne’s short minutes) in shot attempts while on ice.

    Tough game for Larsson, who trailed the entire team in dangers.

  30. BONE207 says:

    Pouzar:
    WheatNOil ‏@WheatNOil3m3 minutes ago View translation
    Zone Exits
    Total / % Controlled
    Klefbom 10 / 50%
    Larsson 11 / 55%
    Russell 12 / 42%
    Sekera 11 / 64%
    Nurse 8 / 100% (!)
    Fayne 1 / 0%

    Are you Wheaties caddy?

  31. Klima's_Bucket says:

    –hudson–

    Technically Nurse was slightly outside the zone.
    So it wasn’t a zone exit.
    It was just a brutal turnover that led to a goal.

  32. treevojo says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    thought Nurse had a strong game, ran one of the better HDSC%s on the team

    Let’s not get carried away.

    Nurse has peaked. No mind for the game.

    He and his waiver exemption should immediately be traded away with Jesse poo for trouba and his $6000000 contract to even things up on the back end for handiness.

  33. Pescador says:

    Phew!! I was worried that I was going to be forced to listen to that Fcking idiot lieutenant Eric give his “perspective” to Lowetide again. Man that was painful this morning, I mean it was a round table how did you stop yourself from reaching across it to slap his stupid college ass?

  34. Pouzar says:

    BONE207: Are you Wheaties caddy?

    You wanna speak to him, you go through me!

  35. GMB3 says:

    Tyler Pitlick growing on anyone else?

    Also what are your guys thoughts on Kassian? He seems to struggle to create chances in the opposing teams end. Does a lot of other things right though I thought. Less reckless penalties as well.

  36. G Honey Bunches of Oats says:

    The Canes ran away with the fancies tonight.

    However! It is worth noting that the score adjusted numbers were almost even (50.5% for CAR). Score effects play a major role when you take a 3-0 lead.

    If the numbers were the other way around, and the Oilers tried to rally from a 3-0 deficit and dominated the fancies the same way, I’d be pointing out that those excellent fancies were heavily score effect driven and something of a mirage.

    So on the flipside, I don’t mind giving the same credit for the Oilers in that department tonight.

  37. GMB3 says:

    treevojo,

    Peaked? To my eye he appears to have transitioned from an AHL defender to a decent #6 guy. Early days yet though.

    Edit: realized that may have been sarcasm

  38. treevojo says:

    GMB3,

    Ya I have little time for posting anything but sarcasm!

  39. dustrock says:

    G Honey Bunches of Oats:
    Nice game for Nurse, who led the defenders (exc Fayne’s short minutes) in shot attempts while on ice.

    Tough game for Larsson, who trailed the entire team in dangers.

    Funny because other than the high-stick shift in the 3rd, thought he had a great game.

  40. Pescador says:

    admiralmark:
    Well that game instilled zero confidence for me and this team. That last period reminded me of a lot Oiler games in recent years.Only difference is the goalie saved the game. Its win… But man loooooong ways to go.

    Not attacking you Mr Admiral, (I respect the uniform)
    But what about “the goalie saved the game” reminds you at all about recent Oiler teams?

  41. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    admiralmark,

    Pitlick and Shleppy both scored tonight though. Unfortunate that McDavid hasn’t picked up any points but there were opportunities (Lucic has bad luck I says) and then the whole goof up with the empty net. No need to worry yet. If the chances dry up then I’ll be concerned.

    Some good moments, some bad. Sekera-Russell is a thing and it’s starting to grow on me.

    Watching the Blues-Nucks game right now. Blues are so very slowwww and methodical. Speed will be a key on Thursday. If they can establish a forecheck it could be a long night.

  42. Pescador says:

    treevojo:
    GMB3,

    Ya I have little time for posting anything but sarcasm!

    I like your style, boss

  43. G Honey Bunches of Stats says:

    dustrock,

    I think he was OK a fair bit, he was also on the ice and often the primary defender during the three worst tire fires, so at least to my eye, the numbers are reflective of the game.

  44. Frank the dog says:

    russ99:
    Damn, Talbot saved our bacon.

    Not pretty, but I’ll take it.

    The Blues will crush us on Thursday.

    Fixed that for you.

  45. Little Poteet says:

    So, are we all in agreement that that game was one of the 32 that could go either way?

  46. Pescador says:

    dustrock:
    Enjoy fatherhood, Cam.There is nothing quite like it.

    Thank god for that!
    Psssstkch ***cracks 3rd beer***

  47. treevojo says:

    dustrock: Funny because other than the high-stick shift in the 3rd, thought he had a great game.

    You must have forgot about that one time he looked like Bambi on the power play.

    But I have really liked his game this year.

    It’s nice to have nhl defensemen in Edmonton.

  48. --hudson-- says:

    Appreciate the clarification! Was maybe also a tough play for him on the right side.

    Klima’s_Bucket:
    –hudson–

    Technically Nurse was slightly outside the zone.
    So it wasn’t a zone exit.
    It was just a brutal turnover that led to a goal.

  49. Pouzar says:

    Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor 1m1 minute ago
    “We won’t know if it is long-term or not until tomorrow.” McLellan on Fayne. Didn’t sound encouraging. #Oilers

  50. hunter1909 says:

    admiralmark: I am concerned that teams are learning to bottle up McDavid

    McDavid is the most electrifying player imaginable.

    He’s been hanging back to see what it feels like to be Toews, for a few games.

  51. Edmonton_fan says:

    Pescador: Thank god for that!
    Psssstkch ***cracks 3rd beer***

    6th beer here – do I win something?

  52. Bag of Pucks says:

    Little Poteet:
    I love that Pitlick in the big show is a thing, and he is scoring so far. Going to be hard to justify putting Hendricks back in

    High mileage Hendricks vs Lemon aid Lander

    Decisions. Decisions.

  53. who says:

    Canes have an underated team. Good young defense. Jordan Staal had a good game and they do have some talent up front. Skinner was dangerous all night. Never really noticed Stempniak and then he scores two goals in two minutes.
    For those of you who were worried about Drai falling off a cliff without Hall I would say he is our second best player so far this season. Didn’t create a whole lot of offense tonight but I think he is already as good as Nuge in the defensive zone, maybe better. Always seems to be in the right place down low.
    Slepeshev and Pitlick were both good tonight and I like Kassians game so far this year. We’ll have to see what he can bring for offense but I really like him on the backcheck. Comes back hard and picks up his man every time. He looks quicker this year. Definitely faster than Maroon or Lucic.

  54. treevojo says:

    hunter1909: Yes you’re 100% right.

    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    McDavid is the most terrifying player since Pavel Bure and then maybe a lot more.

    If bure is a defensemen’s nightmare then mcdavid is schizophrenia.

    He isn’t going away when you wake up and he will last a lifetime!

  55. BONE207 says:

    Pouzar: You wanna speak to him, you go through me!

    Tell him his wife is leaving him. Something about his computer figures are more interesting than hers.

  56. Bag of Pucks says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    The sign of an offensive pulse from the bottom 6 forwards might be the story of the season so far

    Agreed. If players like Pitlick, Sleppy, Maroon and Letestu can contribute offensively, the Oil are in a better spot to make the best development decision for JP.

    Would love to see an Oiler draft pick crush it in the A first for a change, then come back to the bigs with some swagger.

  57. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Are the oilers the most injured team in the league already?

  58. Bag of Pucks says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    Are the oilers the most injured team in the league already?

    They are if Fayne//Davidson/Hendricks/Pakarinen equals Sidney Crosby?

    I don’t think it does.

  59. Lucinius says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    Are the oilers the most injured team in the league already?

    Buffalo probably has that honour.

  60. stush18 says:

    Pouzar:
    Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor1m1 minute ago
    “We won’t know if it is long-term or not until tomorrow.” McLellan on Fayne. Didn’t sound encouraging. #Oilers

    I think this is something else that needs to be taken into affect.

    We basically ran five dmen all night, with 4 lefties. I think the Corsica battle likely would be a little worse than usual because of new partners/wrong hands/more tired/etc

  61. Halfwise says:

    Fancy new rink but they still don’t have microphones in the post game press area so we can hear the questions that the coach is answering. I think it’s actually worse than Rexall in that regard.

    Anyone know why?

  62. Ronald Chevalier says:

    I know we are not in good standing with the union, but what are the chances we can work out an agreement where we carry over our power plays to when we get a penalty……we are much better at even strength.

  63. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Others have already mentioned this (Ryan) but I have serious concerns about the Nuge. Decreased minutes and line mates could really hurt his boxcars and value. Also, is he getting worse at faceoffs? Early days of course but Nuge needs to step it up. He has been my favourite oiler since he was drafted and I would love to see him finally breakout.

  64. Ebsonfire says:

    First time posting, long time lurking. Great post LT. ’06 is a splinter in my mind.

    I was 24 and, while I would have been a lifelong fan without it, the aftermath of that run changed the nature of my fandom in a profound way. From then on my interest in the Oil would be personal, everyday, and impair my functioning in daily life. It’s what brought me here, I think it’s hinge on which this place turns. Thanks for doing what you do or I would have nowhere to bring this … whatever this is.

    Anyways, this was exactly what I wanted to see tonight. The Oil showed early in the season that they can be in a close game without McD shooting out lights and grind out a win. Props to Talbot too, who silenced the doubters. Games like this restore my faith in coaching and player management, when bubble players like Lander, Slepy, Kass, and Pitlick prove Chia picked the right guys. I’m often cynical about this team but when they get it right I try to feel good about it.

  65. Pescador says:

    Edmonton_fan: 6th beer here – do I win something?

    Yes, more beer

  66. G Honey Bunches of Stats says:

    The rink map of ‘shots for’ (Carolina) with the Skinner line is worth a cringe-worthy look:

    http://i.imgur.com/Eg7jSl4.png

  67. Clay says:

    G Honey Bunches of Stats:
    The rink map of ‘shots for’ (Carolina) with the Skinner line is worth a cringe-worthy look:

    http://i.imgur.com/Eg7jSl4.png

    Yowza. Like they camped out at the corners of the net and fired at will.

  68. Lowetide says:

    Ebsonfire:
    First time posting, long time lurking. Great post LT. ’06 is a splinter in my mind.

    I was 24 and, while I would have been a lifelong fan without it, the aftermath of that run changed the nature of my fandom in a profound way. From then on my interest in the Oil would be personal, everyday, and impair my functioning in daily life. It’s what brought me here, I think it’s hinge on which this place turns. Thanks for doing what you do or I would have nowhere to bring this … whatever this is.

    Anyways, this was exactly what I wanted to see tonight. The Oil showed early in the season that they can be in a close game without McD shooting out lights and grind out a win. Props to Talbot too, who silenced the doubters. Games like this restore my faith in coaching and player management, when bubble players like Lander, Slepy, Kass, and Pitlick prove Chia picked the right guys. I’m often cynical about this team but when they get it right I try to feel good about it.

    You’re welcome. 🙂

  69. oilersfan says:

    Wheatnoil; thanks for your awesome tracking of dmen.

    Do you also track successful offensive zone entries by the dmen?

    For those of you who played the game, why doesn’t Russell even seem to try to stand up the opposing forward at the blue line? It’s like he plans to let them in them get the puck… Is it too late to train him to try to not let the opposition gain the zone?

  70. Picturesque says:

    Strong game from Slepy, and hopefully Tmac saw that too and keeps Puljujarvi in the pressbox next game against the Blues. I’d be a little surprised and concerned if Slepy didn’t play on Thursday! It’s a total win-win if Slepyshev emerges as a regular and Puljujarvi is sent to Bakersfield in a few more games. *strong clapping*

  71. wheatnoil says:

    oilersfan:
    Wheatnoil; thanks for your awesome tracking of dmen.

    Do you also track successful offensive zone entries by the dmen?

    For those of you who played the game, why doesn’t Russell even seem to try to stand up the opposing forward at the blue line? It’s like he plans to let them in them get the puck… Is it too late to train him to try to not let the opposition gain the zone?

    I track zone entries against D-men but not by them.

    As for Russell, I wonder if it’s a foot speed issue. Maybe that’s why he leaves a larger gap and cedes the zone.

  72. oilersfan says:

    I cant see it being a foot speed issue for Russell, he looks to me like he is an elite skater. I was thinking its a size issue but surely he can poke check at the blue line? He has s very good, active stick.

    I am just wondering if this habit couldn’t be improved with good coaching and if that would possibly help him get to the next level and be a true top four dmAn

  73. SwedishPoster says:

    Halfwise:
    Fancy new rink but they still don’t have microphones in the post game press area so we can hear the questions that the coach is answering. I think it’s actually worse than Rexall in that regard.

    Anyone know why?

    All Edmonton journalists have really high and squeaky voices. It’s a public health issue.

  74. SwedishPoster says:

    Another not great game that ends in a victory for the Oil. I’ll take it. The team game isn’t really working but a strength so far is that the team has a lot of players who can make offensive plays to create dangerous chances, some ofc more consistently than others but several of the lesser players have good enough hands, skating and shots to cause trouble on their own despite the team struggling to find a working structure offensively. The overall passing game is not good at all, the forwards are not finding good lanes during breakouts consistently, seems like they look for breakaways and odd man rushes a little too often instead of trying to keep puck control and build up to more controlled zone entries. The fourth line were the only line not forcing plays through the neutral zone constantly and they lack the skillset to be truly effective . The other lines are a little too hit and miss when they constantly go for the quick breakout.
    Once in the O-zone the cycle game feels a bit rushed as well a few good shifts here and there bur a lot of the cycling just turns into board battles and/or lost possesion.

    Adam Larsson hasn’t looked like his normal poised self so far, his passing is usually much sharper, hopefully/probably just adapting to a very different style of play compared to the Devils. He should be better as the season rolls along.

  75. russ99 says:

    I am getting a bit annoyed at all the cheap stickwork being directed at McDavid that isn’t being called.

    If this was Crosby, we’d have had 4-5 more powerplays, but considering how poorly we’ve played wth the extra man on both sides of the ice, maybe that’s a god thing.

  76. russ99 says:

    oilersfan,

    A big part of Russell’s game is positioning. I see him hang back fairly often to be in the right spot to contest a shot or block one.

    If he’s up at the blue line, that would limit his effectiveness, and end up having him chase the play rather than be in the right spot to contest the shot, IMO.

  77. Oilspill says:

    Tough to track offensive zone entries unless to have a full ice view.

    oilersfan:
    Wheatnoil; thanks for your awesome tracking of dmen.

    Do you also track successful offensive zone entries by the dmen?

    For those of you who played the game, why doesn’t Russell even seem to try to stand up the opposing forward at the blue line? It’s like he plans to let them in them get the puck… Is it too late to train him to try to not let the opposition gain the zone?

  78. frjohnk says:

    Kris Russell
    14-15…CA…..SA……….SCA….HDCA
    ………..66.47…31.56……22.8…..10.5 CAL
    15-16..62.45…31.48…..22.68….9.85 CAL
    15-16..61.2…..25.01…..25.03…10.89 DAL
    16-17..58.97…27.27…..14.96…..8.8 EDM

    Adam Larsson
    14-15….CA….SA………..SCA…..HDCA
    …………50.52….27.02…..17.4…..8.56 NJ
    15-16….48.7….25.86…..16.43….7.99 NJ
    16-17….58.8….33.25…..19.11…..9.38 EDM

    Only 4 games in , but interesting in how many of Russells numbers have come down but Larssons have increased while with Edmonton compared to the last two years. This is something I have said all along. Systems and quality of team matter big time when looking at on ice metrics for individuals. I don’t think on ice metrics for individual players translate very well when players go from one team to another different team and the systems are very different from each team. We will see how this plays out with these two players.

    By the way, I’m really liking both of these players. Larsson is more physical than I thought and Russell can scoot extremely well and seems to work well with Sekera.

  79. theres oil in virginia says:

    Bag of Pucks: They are if Fayne//Davidson/Hendricks/Pakarinen equals Sidney Crosby?

    I don’t think it does.

    According to ESPN Radio, they far exceed Crosby. Grit!

  80. blainer says:

    Hendy and Davey are big losses for this team. Hendy is deadly on the faceoffs and PK and no need to say much about Davey other than he is missed.

    The sooner they return the better especially if no one else goes down. Caggs can center that 3 line and move Drai up and play him 20 mins a night.

    If we just get back to 100% healthy watch out .. this IS a playoff team.

  81. Pouzar says:

    Seems to me teams are fighting the ice conditions. Play seems very choppy at times.

  82. JustWatt says:

    Little Poteet,

    Could be on the of the mythical 32. They definitely hung on for the win, didn’t feel like a game they were going to win no matter what.

  83. JustWatt says:

    stush18: I think this is something else that needs to be taken into affect.

    We basically ran five dmen all night, with 4 lefties. I think the Corsica battle likely would be a little worse than usual because of new partners/wrong hands/more tired/etc

    This is an excellent point. Probably helps to explain some of the tire fire of a “button down” after the second GA.

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