G8 2016-17: OILERS AT CANUCKS

The Edmonton Oilers are two wins away from an incredible October sky. If the team can win tonight on the left coast, and then find a way to get past the Senators on Sunday, their record will be 8-1-0. Mail that back to last year and what would you hear? ‘Shut your whore mouth’ most likely. Yet, here we are. Does the fever break tonight? Or is this team actually better by a lot?

The truth is, every game day thread you read on every Oilers blog this season could be boiled down to one sentence: If McDavid is in the lineup, this team has a chance to win two points. Every night.

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EVEN IN THE QUIETEST MOMENTS, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 3-4-0, goal differential -2
  • Oilers in October 2016: 6-1-0, goal differential +10

In Game 8 one year ago, the Oilers lost to the Washington Capitals 7-4. Evgeny Kuznetsov was on fire that night, he was so fast and the Oilers defense was very poor. If you check the names on defense that night, and compare them to the current roster, suspect we can agree there has been progress.

DEFENSE, AFTER SEVEN

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  • I prefer Corsi For (this is all 5×5, courtesy NaturalStatTrick), but have sorted by HD SC.
  • Oscar Klefbom is on another level, with Adam Larsson not far behind. In terms of HD SCs, the Oilers are basically double the opposition. Man. That’s electric.
  • Andrej Sekera has been very good to my eye, but trails partner Kris Russell across the board. Thoughts? I have to say that a veteran second pairing (we had discussed Fayne in the role during summer) has been a Godsend. Calm moments tower over the chaos most nights, and that is a very good thing. Russell is one of three Oilers defensemen with more high-danger scoring chances for than against. WheatnOil is drilling down on CorsiRel in the comments section of the previous thread (you know I love my Rel!) and making good points. Lefty-Righty is a thing.
  • Darnell Nurse is basically even in HD scoring chances and regular scoring chances, Gryba just a shade behind. I think eventually we will see Brandon Davidson there, but what kind of top 6D might we see in 2017-18? My guess is Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera and Nurse are locks, with Benning close to same. Kris Russell? Eric Gryba? Both have a chance to be back, imo.
  • Where does that leave Griffin Reinhart? Where does that leave Griffin Reinhart?

FORWARDS, AFTER SEVEN

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  • The Lucic—McDavid—Eberle line is the best 20 minutes on television—or in the arena. Honestly, the 97 shifts approach Beatlemania. Part of the magic is that I feel he could score on every play, and that is going to end in a 5-point night along the way, sure as hell. Maybe it’s tonight? I well remember some pretty vacant Vancouver teams being run over by the 80s Oilers.
  • Pouliot—Nuge—Kassian are struggling in the Corsi but sawing off in high-danger scoring chances. Kassian is not ideal, but how many months will it be until Jesse Puljujarvi is ready? March? I think they have the solution and are just waiting for this player to push Kassian out of the way. Could happen sooner than later, JP is going to be a special player.
  • Nugent-Hopkins is a key player on this team. If he can play his quality two-way game and post 50 points, this team has a chance (if Leon can level the soft parade) to improve markedly in GF.
  • Maroon—Draisaitl—Puljujarvi looks good in HD scoring chances, and reasonable in possession. I think this line should be pushing more 5×5 and bet we see it as time rolls along. Draisaitl is exceeding my RE, that is an excellent sign.
  • Lander—Letestu—Pitlick is doing some pretty impressive scoring from the 4line, only question being can it continue. I am beginning to wonder if Matt Hendricks and Iiro Pakarinen will be able to force their way onto the roster when they return. Pakarinen is in an especially tight spot at this point.

THE RE SERIES

Each summer, I do an RE series in search of reasonable. After tonight, we will be 10 percent into the schedule and it is a chance to see where we are in the early days. Here are the actual numbers, and what RE would have suggested at this point.

  1. Connor McDavid 7gp, 4-7-11 (6gp, 3-4-7) +4
  2. Jordan Eberle 7gp, 3-3-6 (6gp, 2-3-5) +1
  3. Leon Draisaitl 7gp, 2-4-6 (6gp, 1-2-3) +3
  4. Milan Lucic 7gp, 3-2-5 (7gp, 2-3-5) Even
  5. Benoit Pouliot 7gp, 3-1-4 (5gp, 1-2-3) +1
  6. Mark Letestu 7gp, 2-2-4 (6gp, 1-1-2) +2
  7. Zack Kassian 7gp, 2-2-4 (5gp, 0-1-1) +3
  8. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 7gp, 0-4-4 (6gp, 2-2-4) Even
  9. Tyler Pitlick 7gp, 3-0-3 (1gp, 0-0-0) +3
  10. Darnell Nurse 7gp, 1-2-3 (6gp, 0-1-1) +2
  11. Kris Russell 7gp, 0-3-3 (Not included in RE)
  12. Andrej Sekera 7gp, 0-3-3 (6gp, 1-2-3) Even
  13. Jesse Puljujarvi 5gp, 1-1-2 (6gp, 1-1-2) Even
  14. Patrick Maroon 7gp, 2-0-2 (6gp, 1-1-2) Even
  15. Oscar Klefbom 7gp, 0-2-2 (5gp, 0-2-2) Even
  16. Mark Fayne 1gp, 0-1-1 (6gp, 0-0-0) +1
  17. Anton Slepyshev 3gp, 1-0-1 (0gp, 0-0-0) +1
  18. Anton Lander 6gp, 0-1-1 (4gp, 0-1-1) Even
  19. Adam Larsson 7gp, 0-1-1 (6gp, 0-2-2) -1
  20. Eric Gryba 5gp, 0-0-0 (Not included in RE)
  21. Brandon Davidson 1gp, 0-0-0 (5gp, 0-1-1) -1
  22. Cam Talbot 7gp, 2.49 .927 (5gp, 2.44 .920) Seven points up in SP
  23. Jonas Gustavsson 1gp, 0.00 one (2gp, 2.95 .905)

The RE hasn’t badly overestimated anyone (numbers here), with only Larsson trailing the prediction (and Brandon Davidson injured). There is however evidence that I may have underestimated Connor McDavid, Leon Draisaitl and Zack Kassian. I am fine with it, the idea of RE is to find reasonable. Thoughts? One thing we should probably expect is a dip in Cam Talbot’s save percentage moving forward.

DYLAN MCILRATH

I wrote about Dylan McIlrath last night here, and at ON in a kind of obscure way. So. I don’t think the Oilers will claim him, but would not be shocked to my shoes if they do in fact grab him. McIlrath is a defensive defender, but unlike a Mark Fayne (and even unlike Eric Gryba) he has good straightaway speed. Edmonton has the position covered (RH stay-at-home) and seem to like Gryba this year (and possibly beyond). I think you should be close to your internet at about 10:15 today, and we will cover this on the Lowdown. Again, I don’t think it happens, but it could this morning. Bet it was discussed. Paajarvi? They didn’t take him last time he was on waivers—when it made more sense—doubt they do it today.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun Friday as always, 10 this morning on TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, BigMouthSports. The Cubs are playing in Chicago in a World Series—historic. Plus the early start for the Oilers and media coverage of the Leafs.
  • Guy Flaming, Pipeline Show. Oil Kings progress (send goals!) and some of the early risers in the 2017 draft.
  • Matt Iwanyk, TSN1260. Should the Oilers tweak the roster (adding McIlrath, perhaps a Purcell) or stay the course with a young, improving group.
  • Paul Almedia, SSE. Can the Oilers get to 9-1-0 in October? And the wobbly rich that represent Man U.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

 

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  1. Ice Sage says:

    I’m expecting a bad bounce and OT.
    Sorry, a decade of conditioning

  2. Younger Oil says:

    Adam Larsson wins you hockey games.

  3. spoiler says:

    Was that a mini tire fire?

  4. BeerMe says:

    Looking dangerous out there

  5. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    spoiler:
    Was that a mini tire fire?

    Sure was

  6. Lucinius says:

    I’m getting more worried…

  7. D says:

    Would be nice if the Oil took control of this game. They’ve been running around quite a bit throughout all three periods.

  8. LadiesloveSmid says:

    hey ya let’s get our asses in gear, thanks for missing that sure goal Baertschi how about we don’t allow another

  9. Bsquared says:

    Need the Nuge to put this one away

  10. Ice Sage says:

    spoiler:
    Was that a mini tire fire?

    It’s been five minutes of old-time Oiler hockey!

  11. Pouzar says:

    WINNING!!!

  12. spoiler says:

    The Looch and Larsson show!

  13. LadiesloveSmid says:

    this is retro 2009-2012 oilers vs canucks

  14. Bsquared says:

    well, well, well! Holy win

  15. Lowetide says:

    I thought Lucic would have an eventful game, one way or another. Well done, Oilers.

  16. Ice Sage says:

    and that’s why size matters (in the NHL, right honey?)

  17. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Poetic

  18. Gerta Rauss says:

    Looch..!!

    This is getting serious now

    7-1 to start the season

    Unpossible

  19. Derek says:

    Lucic just took Stechers lunch money:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5d9BrLN5K4

  20. D says:

    This might be a win for the Oil, but they played a poor game.

  21. Lucinius says:

    Ah… the insurance marker. Thank you Lucic for being, well, Lucic!

    Lucic strong!

  22. spoiler says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    this is retro 2009-2012 oilers vs canucks

    Opposite Oilers!

  23. Lowetide says:

    The Edmonton Oilers are 7-1-0.

  24. striatic says:

    Not the prettiest win but the Oilers overcame a team which, while suffering from injuries, had a goalie who was absolutely on fire.

  25. Derek says:

    Well another Talbot shutout isn’t going to do anything to drop that sweet, sweet PDO.

  26. russ99 says:

    Damn that was a tough hard fought win.

    This team is fun.

  27. spoiler says:

    striatic:
    Not the prettiest win but the Oilers overcame a team which, while suffering from injuries, had a goalie who was absolutely on fire.

    I think we fought fire with fire then.

  28. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    Well, that was fun! And suck it Canucks fans!

  29. Derek says:

    Lost the 5×5 Corgi and Fenwick battle again. Won the 5×5 SCF and HDCF battle again Ho hum.

  30. David says:

    D:
    This might be a win for the Oil, but they played a poor game.

    I disagree completely. There were wobbly moments but all in all a good game.

  31. JDï™ says:

    What’s everyone drinking tonight? Water? Johnny Walker Black? Nuck Fan Tears?

    Mmmmmmmm…

  32. Frank the dog says:

    This is one of the sweetest moments i can Remember.
    Well done boys.

  33. tcho says:

    That was not a beautiful win… but, damnit! I’ll take it. 🙂

  34. dustrock says:

    Thought Larsson would get an apple there

  35. striatic says:

    spoiler: I think we fought fire with fire then.

    Absolutely!

  36. LadiesloveSmid says:

    score and venue adjusted 60.24% HDCF, this is a trend

  37. LadiesloveSmid says:

    speaking of, Nuge, Kass, Pou +4/-0 in HDCF

  38. tcho says:

    Can’t imagine any of the fancies are going to be very flattering.

  39. dustrock says:

    tcho:
    That was not a beautiful win… but, damnit! I’ll take it.

    No Oilers team in the last 6 years wins that game.

    Klefbom and Larsson. Wow.

    Team commitment to heavy sticks.

    Stick tap to Drai and Lander for some good defensive effort in the 3rd.

    Like Nurse but would prefer replacing Gryba.

  40. Younger Oil says:

    I just realized the Oilers had a brodcast team working on this one.

    I just spent 3 hours listening to those awful Canuck PBP announcers thinking that was the only option.

    Kill me.

  41. Zelepukin says:

    D:
    This might be a win for the Oil, but they played a poor game.

    It was no way that bad. That’s just the way Vancouver plays. Extremely frusturating, especially when the Sedins are on the ice.

    We had a lot of great chances and without Miller this could have easily been 4-0 and everyone would have been saying how amazing we played.

    Our D matchups were on point.

    Puj is playing better and better.

    Kassian had a great game.

    Klef-Lars are silent killers.

  42. frjohnk says:

    Hutton couldn’t catch McDavid on the 1st goal.

    Stifler couldn’t outmuscle Lucic on 2nd goal.

    Talbot another gem.

  43. Pouzar says:

    Trend continues.

    Oilers win the Score Adj HDCF% 60.4%
    lose the Score Adj Corgis 48.4 %

  44. khildahl says:

    Younger Oil:
    I just realized the Oilers had a brodcast team working on this one.

    I just spent 3 hours listening to those awful Canuck PBP announcers thinking that was the only option.

    Kill me.

    It’s not like Quinn and Remenda are that much better.

  45. Bsquared says:

    Entertaining game to watch. All that matters is wins and losses. Not if it is a pretty or an ugly win, a win is a win. Good to see we are not a team to get pushed around or out skated.

  46. Lucinius says:

    I don’t think the Oilers played that bad, honestly. I missed the first period, but otherwise.. not bad. Not great, mind you, and there were a few minutes where certain flashbacks started to occur, but they eventually managed to get control and right the ship when it mattered.

    Nucks played better than I expected; Miller too. Thankfully, Talbot > Miller.

    Something is going to break, though. Oilers are sitting at 2.13 GA AVG and 3.63 GF AVG. That’s a pace of 174 GA and 297 GF on the season (123 goal differential!).

    Last season we were 242 GA and 199 GF.

    This degree of improvement cannot last.

    But I’ll gladly take it while it does.

  47. striatic says:

    Derek:
    Lost the 5×5 Corgi and Fenwick battle again.Won the 5×5 SCF and HDCF battle again Ho hum.

    The Oilers pretty much sawed off on corgis until the last five minutes, roughly half of which was 6v5. The Oilers played a good game where they said “we will hold even on chances and let our goalie and best players beat your goalie and best players on *finishing*”.

    That’s exactly what happened.

  48. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    David: I disagree completely. There were wobbly moments but all in all a good game.

    And I completely agree with your disagreement sir. A few wobbly bits but a shut out win on the road is sweet, especially against this team. Oh my, but I do hatethe Canucks.

  49. Side says:

    Remember when people thought Talbot’s play would suddenly implode just because he had twins?

    Fun times.

  50. Lucinius says:

    dustrock:
    Thought Larsson would get an apple there

    On the NHL website he is credited with an assist.

  51. Pouzar says:

    JDï™:
    What’s everyone drinking tonight? Water? Johnny Walker Black? Nuck Fan Tears?

    Mmmmmmmm…

    Boxer.

    Been savin for a month.

  52. khildahl says:

    JDï™:
    What’s everyone drinking tonight? Water? Johnny Walker Black? Nuck Fan Tears?

    Mmmmmmmm…

    The Kool-Aid. It’s delicious.

  53. OilClog says:

    14pts in October.. and maybe 2 more?!?!

    7-1.

  54. Zelepukin says:

    Lucinius: On the NHL website he is credited with an assist.

    It kind of looked like McD touched it to Larsson too.

  55. dustrock says:

    Best game of Klefbom’s career?

  56. Lucinius says:

    Zelepukin,

    I thought he had, but don’t have a replay that goes back far enough to check.

  57. Admiral Ackbar says:

    To start: yes! 5 game win streak. They may not have been pretty but I’ll take it.

    The bad: the only Dmen that are closing gaps and preventing neutralzone entry is LarsBom. Nurse is improving but Sekera/Russel are giving up the blueline, a lot.

    A few forwards look like they’re caught with their pants down EVERY time the DMan pinches when the puck comes up the board. I don’t B expect them to muscle it out like Looch but stop bloody waiting for the puck to come to you! You’re a sitting duck!!

    Talbotic looks confident right now. He give some me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. For the first time in years, it’s nice to expect the save.

  58. Younger Oil says:

    The only bad thing about this start is feeling disappointed at the start of the 2017 season by the game by game comparisons.

  59. JDï™ says:

    Pouzar: Boxer.

    Been savin for a month.

    If you had saved just 0.000075 longer, you could have had Boxer Watermelon.

  60. BlueNoteNorth says:

    Talbot has recorded a shutout in 10.7% of games played.

    To put this in perspective, Martin Brodeur recorded 9.9%.

    Early days but certainly in good company.

  61. GMB3 says:

    7 and 1 is this real

  62. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    RNH had a really solid game I thought. Thought Eberle was a bit weak in the D zone, no surprise I suppose but a couple times his lack of determination led to more Canuck pressure.

    Loved Kassian’s game!

    7-1 who would have guessed?

  63. Admiral Ackbar says:

    khildahl: The Kool-Aid.It’s delicious.

    The blood of McJebus.

  64. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Derek: I don’t see it the way you guys did, check the replay.Gaunce skated back to his bench after the whistle with an intact stick.Remenda called the stick broken but that was just Remenda being Remenda (wrong).

    This. Especially that last bit. I fucken near changed to the John Garrett channel, he was that bad.

  65. Zelepukin says:

    Walter Gretzkys Neighbour:
    RNH had a really solid game I thought. Thought Eberle was a bit weak in the D zone, no surprise I suppose but a couple times his lack of determination led to more Canuck pressure.

    Loved Kassian’s game!

    7-1 who would have guessed?

    Ya that’s classic Ebs. Soft body positioning along the boards is his spirit animal.

  66. Pouzar says:

    Bruce McCurdy: This. Especially that last bit. I fucken near changed to the John Garrett channel, he was that bad.

    This.

  67. Pouzar says:

    Outside of the obvious….Nuge, Kassian, Nurse. Saw em good.

  68. Pouzar says:

    WheatNOil ‏@WheatNOil 9m9 minutes ago
    Zone Exits
    Total / % Controlled
    Klefbom – 9 / 78%
    Larsson – 11 / 46%
    Sekera – 14 / 50%
    Russell – 12 / 33%
    Nurse – 10 / 40%
    Gryba – 7 / 14%

    WheatNOil ‏@WheatNOil 4m4 minutes ago
    Puck Retrieval Under Pressure
    Total / % Successful
    Klefbom 6 / 33%
    Larsson 5 / 80%
    Sekera 8 / 75%
    Russel 8 / 75%
    Nurse 7 / 57%
    Gryba 8 / 50%

    WheatNOil ‏@WheatNOil 1m1 minute ago
    Defensive Zone Turnovers /60
    Klefbom – 14.8
    Larsson – 8.4
    Sekera – 19.4
    Russell – 13.5
    Nurse – 7.9
    Gryba – 4.0
    (Much improved after the 1st)

  69. dangilitis says:

    Side:
    Remember when people thought Talbot’s play would suddenly implode just because he had twins?

    Fun times.

    I am going to half-joke here, but he was playing mediocre until the game before the twins are born. When my wife was set to have her first C-section, both of us had a lot on our minds and the date loomed over us both (her, understandably more than I!), and I was quite stressed as it approached. Any ways, emotions impact cognition and performance, please see Oilers seasons over past 5 years.

  70. flea says:

    I got to watch this one front to back finally. I thought the Oilers did a great job of harassing the puck carriers.Every time the Canucks had it on their stick, an Oiler was not far behind making their life miserable. I thought they made Vancouver rush a lot of their plays and they didn’t get a lot of clean looks.

    Conversely the Oilers got quite a few clean looks and probably were a little unlucky to only pot one.

    Also loved Lucic tossing Stecher aside on the ENG. Hard working play to put in the dagger.

    7-1!

  71. Lucinius says:

    Re; Drai and the non-penalty; I honestly thought the stick was broken (and not because of the announcers). On the play the stick looked like it broke; maybe it just bent oddly or a trick of the angle, dunno.

  72. Mustard Tiger says:

    Gagner scored twice tonight

  73. tcho says:

    Drink for me is bourbon.

    I liked Ebs. Thought Lucic had a weak game.

  74. dangilitis says:

    Bruce McCurdy: This. Especially that last bit. I fucken near changed to the John Garrett channel, he was that bad.

    To be fair, his first instinct was correct, that it was in fact a great play by Draisaitl, he just misread the ref’s gesturing, as did half the arena, it appeared.

  75. dustrock says:

    Bruce McCurdy: This. Especially that last bit. I fucken near changed to the John Garrett channel, he was that bad.

    I’ve never seen a supposed home team broadcaster seemingly criticize his own team and talk up the other team to such an extent. Can’t stand Remenda.

  76. Pouzar says:

    Nurse – Gryba lead the Corgis 16-10

  77. Oilspill says:

    Let me guess, ýou turned down the job LOL. At least he fucking knows hockey, more that most of the writers who using fancies to try to understand the game. At least he not a clueless Homer!

    Bruce McCurdy: This. Especially that last bit. I fucken near changed to the John Garrett channel, he was that bad.

  78. Lucinius says:

    Mustard Tiger:
    Gagner scored twice tonight

    Good for him!

    I didn’t even know he was still in the NHL until you mentioned him.

    Such a good player who never really became what he should have.

  79. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Walter Gretzkys Neighbour:
    RNH had a really solid game I thought. Thought Eberle was a bit weak in the D zone, no surprise I suppose but a couple times his lack of determination led to more Canuck pressure.

    Loved Kassian’s game!

    7-1 who would have guessed?

    Eberle had one tremendous defensive play in the third. Then he had one pass from the corner where Remenda spent about 5 minutes shitting on him but it really wasn’t a bad play, a soft dump to good ice where an Oiler had a chance to win a battle but Drew expected him to dangle out of the zone or something.

    Other forwards with excellent defensive plays in the third were RNH, Draisaitl & Lander. Feels like there is some serious buy-in happening.

  80. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Oilspill:
    Let me guess, ýou turned down the job LOL. At least he fucking knows hockey, more that most of the writers who using fancies to try to understand the game. At least he not a clueless Homer!

    Oooh. Shots fired.

    Pardon me for having a GD opinion.

  81. Ducey says:

    Loved Nuge tonight. Kassian was great. Nurse very nice too.

  82. JDï™ says:

    Oilspill: At least he not a clueless Homer!

    Remenduh or Garrett?

  83. Lucinius says:

    Eberle is still soft on the puck in the defensive zone. He just is and I don’t think he’ll ever get that out of his game. However, he’s not as soft or lazy in the defensive zone as he used to be. In my opinion I think there’s two reasons he’s gotten better; he’s actually completely healthy for once, and he’s more energized by being on a team that isn’t a complete shit-show.

    But it is still there.. but it can be coped with now because it isn’t as bad as it used to be and Connor McDavid can bloody fly.

  84. Clay says:

    You know the turn North has happened when the biggest negative is the colour analyst.

  85. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Lucic was a fight away from a Gordie Howe hat trick.

  86. Lloyd B. says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Eberle had one tremendous defensive play in the third. Then he had one pass from the corner where Remenda spent about 5 minutes shitting on him but it really wasn’ta bad play, a soft dump to good ice where an Oiler had a chance to win a battle but Drew expected him to dangle out of the zone or something.

    Other forwards with excellent defensive plays in the third were RNH, Draisaitl & Lander. Feels like there is some serious buy-in happening.

    Continuing to win will reinforce the buy in big time.

  87. tarvbc says:

    When Hendricks returns does he take Landers spot ? That’s a tough one but you I’d to give the edge to the veteran with pk time.

  88. Pouzar says:

    My opinion on Remenda has been pretty consistent. Bring. Back. Louie.

  89. Centre of attention says:

    Guys, guys.

    The Oilers are 7-1-0

    To put this as politely as possible, WHY THE HELL ARE WE FIGHTING!?! Everyone take a deep breath and enjoy this while it lasts!

  90. Pouzar says:

    Centre of attention:
    Guys, guys.

    The Oilers are 7-1-0

    To put this as politely as possible, WHY THE HELL ARE WE FIGHTING!?! Everyone take a deep breath and enjoy this while it lasts!

    Dude…we lost to BUFFALO!

  91. dangilitis says:

    tcho:
    Drink for me is bourbon.

    I liked Ebs. Thought Lucic had a weak game.

    I thought it was the other way around. Eberle had a shift in the defensive zone where he missed 3 assignments and the Canucks had 2 great scoring chances

  92. Lucinius says:

    tarvbc:
    When Hendricks returns does he take Landers spot ? That’s a tough one but you I’d to give the edge to the veteran with pk time.

    I disagree, honestly. I think Lander has earned the spot right now, mainly because of his ability to win face offs (he is the only consistent face off winner we got) and his ability on the pk. I don’t think Hendricks brings anything more or better than Lander — and Lander does it for less money!

    It will be very interesting to see what happens when Hendricks and some of the other injured players come back, however, especially since guys who have those spots now have been playing well, the team is 7-1 and there’s no real reason to pull anyone from the line-up.

    Only Davidson slots in on his return by merit, imo.

  93. Centre of attention says:

    Steve Dangle Glynn ‏@Steve_Dangle 46m46 minutes ago
    Once the Oilers win their first division title with McDavid, how many division titles will they get in a row?

    Noted Leafs blogger is jumping on the bandwagon big time

  94. Yak Efron says:

    Centre of attention:
    Guys, guys.

    The Oilers are 7-1-0

    To put this as politely as possible, WHY THE HELL ARE WE FIGHTING!?! Everyone take a deep breath and enjoy this while it lasts!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upMuEJotl5w

    Ignore the Dave part at the beginning.

    Sia before she became super famous and began not showing her face.

  95. khildahl says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Eberle had one tremendous defensive play in the third. Then he had one pass from the corner where Remenda spent about 5 minutes shitting on him but it really wasn’ta bad play, a soft dump to good ice where an Oiler had a chance to win a battle but Drew expected him to dangle out of the zone or something.

    Other forwards with excellent defensive plays in the third were RNH, Draisaitl & Lander. Feels like there is some serious buy-in happening.

    Yeah, that diatribe was particularly nonsensical. Eberle made a good decision about a second after a contested faceoff, with Canucks coming from all sides, and got accused of “stopping skating” for his trouble.

  96. texmex says:

    Did anyone watch OT of the NJ CHI game??? Someone was on the ice the whole OT and turned over the puck on the winning goal.

  97. Gret99zky says:

    Pouzar:
    My opinion on Remenda has been pretty consistent. Bring. Back. Louie.

    Bring. Back. Ray.

  98. tcho says:

    dangilitis,

    Lucic couldn’t seem to make a pass. Then on the 2 on 1 break with McDavid, he thinks he’s McDavid, tries a very low percentage pass to McD (while he’s in the slot) instead of shooting. A few weak efforts on the forecheck too, I thought. Don’t get me wrong, I like Looch, but that was not his best game.

    *takes another swig of bourbon*

  99. Evilas says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Oooh. Shots fired.

    Pardon me for having a GD opinion.

    So when are you and LT and Woodguy doing the in-game podcasts?

    Please?

    We could turn off the volumes on our TVs and listen to you guys, kinda like the muppet Old Guys, with better opinions and stats and shit….

  100. Bag of Pucks says:

    Lowetide:
    The Edmonton Oilers are 7-1-0.

    Happy days are here again.

  101. Lucinius says:

    Gret99zky: Bring. Back. Ray.

    He works for a different company, sadly. Sportsnet’s stranglehold on the NHL in Canada was the worst thing to happen to hockey in Canada since the Bettman point or instigator penalty.

    I wish TSN had Oiler games. I wish!

  102. JDï™ says:

    texmex:
    Did anyone watch OT of the NJ CHI game??? Someone was on the ice the whole OT and turnedover the puck on the winning goal.

    Greedy Kane. So like him.

  103. flyfish1168 says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Lucic was a fight away from a Gordie Howe hat trick.

    I thought Sbisa was going to go with Milan

  104. Zelepukin says:

    Remenda is the worst. Okay, maybe not Garrett bad but still, not a game doesn’t go by where I find myself saying out loud, who hired this guy?

  105. Chaos Magian says:

    I had the Canucks feed for most of the game. Used the TuneIn radio app so I could pause the radio feed and get it synced with the tv feed. It made the third period so much better.

    I’ve only done that one other time. It was back in the Rod Phillips days. Might be doing it more often.

  106. Bag of Pucks says:

    Canucks came out with a very aggressive forecheck and the Oil D withstood it, That is encouraging.

    The stretch pass to McDavid is the perfect response to the hard forecheck.

    This team can beat you a lot of ways. And I think they’re scratching the surface of what they can be.

  107. Bag of Pucks says:

    texmex:
    Did anyone watch OT of the NJ CHI game??? Someone was on the ice the whole OT and turnedover the puck on the winning goal.

    You can cram this in your cram hole.

  108. böök¡je says:

    Fuck this team!

    I’m starting to believe.

    I’m going to be so crushed this time.

  109. oilinthepeg says:

    Hey, hey… let’s be optimistic, folks! With this recent surge of decent to above decent hockey-ing, we are bound to somehow attract Ray back. Contracts and agreements be darmned!

    7-0-1! Woohoo!

  110. Zelepukin says:

    This was one of those games where Klef-Lars played so solid against tough comp that I don’t care if Hall scores 30 this season. We won that trade from our perspective, in that we we are so much better for it.

    Chia’s intermission interview touched on that. He is liking a lot of things we’re doing that only managers notice. Lots of the little things. Klef-Lars are so good at the smart play, applying pressure without over-comitting.

  111. Ronald Chevalier says:

    I also thought that Lucic didn’t have the strongest game. For the most part his passing was off(other than the give and go with McDavid). Have a feeling we are going to start seeing a lot of trap hockey.

  112. Ice Sage says:

    JDï™:
    What’s everyone drinking tonight? Water? Johnny Walker Black? Nuck Fan Tears?

    Mmmmmmmm…

    Orca blood baby

  113. JDï™ says:

    böök¡je,

    You’re great Bookije!

  114. Ice Sage says:

    Was out with a die-hard Canadiens fan tonight.
    We’re booking our June holidays.

  115. Ice Sage says:

    Ronald Chevalier:
    I also thought that Lucic didn’t have the strongest game. For the most part his passing was off(other than the give and go with McDavid). Have a feeling we are going to start seeing a lot of trap hockey.

    LOL – back home for a night, flush with Alberta ca$h. Still gets 2 points!

  116. Lowetide says:

    Oilspill:
    Let me guess, ýou turned down the job LOL. At least he fucking knows hockey, more that most of the writers who using fancies to try to understand the game. At least he not a clueless Homer!

    This isn’t how we talk to each other, Oilspill. Please and thanks.

  117. Ice Sage says:

    Gotta tell ya lads, it’s tough
    Thinking of this team
    As a solid
    defensive squad.

    But, beyond McD, Loooooch and High Definition Scoring Chances

    that’s been the difference.

    I dig!

  118. Melman says:

    Was at the game tonight – random thoughts:

    1). They don’t win this game 1-10 years ago
    2) Talbot glove save in the 2nd is my TSN turning point
    3) saw the RNH line and Drai line good. All 6 D were solid all night. Nucks had maybe 5 or 6 good scoring chances but regularly danger got pushed wide or shots blocked. Gryba and Nurse are an effective 3rd pair. Klef – Larsson are a legit 1st pair – holy shit does 77 close on fwds in a hurry. They look like they have tons of room and like Kaiser Soze, poof it’s gone
    4) size matters: Gryba, Nurse, Kassian, Lucic, Drai, Maroon, Pitlick, PJ – it adds up
    5) loved watching Szibsa realize he was about to drop them in the first against Lucic and then come to his senses
    6) Connor McDavid – my goodness aunt Edna can he fly
    7) Connor McDavid

    Best of all I got to chirp my nephews who are 7 and 9. I know that makes me a bad person, but they’ve been giving it to me for years and I’m not ashamed

    Edit: this good goalering thing is a real deal

  119. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Nurse & Gryba with identical 5v5 shot shares tonight.

    Corsi 16-10
    Fenwick 14-6
    Shots 13-4 (!)
    Scoring chances 8-2
    High danger scoring chances 3-1

    Quality performance by both men to my eye, & those stats certainly support that.

  120. Billy1977 says:

    LT
    First time post but have been reading for the last 8 years. Thanks for providing everyone a forum to share their opinions and hockey knowledge. I have learned so much from the posters on here both about hockey and about life. This last win has me waxing nostalgic, dreaming of days gone by but yet to come. Let’s all enjoy the ride, it was a blast in the 80’s…let’s have fun in the 10’s

    Cheers

    Billy

  121. wheatnoil says:

    I think they should have played better against Vancouver, but two more points are in the bank and against a Pacific Division team to boot.

    Tomorrow we’ll continue to rail against the score-adjusted corsi. Though, to be honest, by score-adjusted corsi they’re still 18th in the league (according to Natural Stattrick), which is a playoff bubble team.

    14 points in the bank in October for a playoff bubble team is nice cover to withstand the eventual Wrath of Regression.

    Edit: 18th in the league, 7th in the West, 4th in the Pacific. That’s a full-value playoff bubble team!

  122. GMB3 says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Bruce’s as a bit of non stats guy lemme state that I love hearing your opinions and always look forward to your posts. You’ve got a good grasp of stats and the eye test in your analysis and I’m a fan. Might not mean much but I say keep on keeping on.. Always look forward to seeing your posts on here

  123. Billy1977 says:

    GMB3,

    This

  124. Melman says:

    wheatnoil,

    Are we already at the point where we are critiquing road wins against the Canucks!?! Let’s take the 2 points and the shutout and let the boys hit the Roxy

  125. Hope is a good thing says:

    Hockey is a funny game; thought Nuge played very well and got no points – didn’t think Lucic played very well except for a couple moments and he ends up with 2 points.

    Nice to see Talbot didn’t let his twins or Vancouver’s get the best of him. Good call on him Woodguy, and good job getting him Chiarelli.

  126. Lowetide says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Nurse & Gryba with identical 5v5 shot shares tonight.

    Corsi 16-10
    Fenwick 14-6
    Shots 13-4 (!)
    Scoring chances 8-2
    High danger scoring chances 3-1

    Quality performance by both men to my eye, & those stats certainly support that.

    Agree Bruce. Your man Eberle had some dandy moments too I thought, interrupted play and kept the puck going in a good direction. Did you see the Leon play? Was that Beliveau? I didn’t really see Beliveau like you would have, but my Dad always talked about him as a guy who could do that kind of thing.

    Nuge was fab, too. Man, I dont remember the last time a Vancouver game left me this happy.

  127. commonfan14 says:

    Lowetide:
    The Lucic—McDavid—Eberle line is the best 20 minutes on television—or in the arena. Honestly, the 97 shifts approach Beatlemania.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4jSbmK5a10

  128. wheatnoil says:

    Melman:
    wheatnoil,

    Are we already at the point where we are critiquing road wins against the Canucks!?! Let’s take the 2 points and the shutout and let the boys hit the Roxy

    The Zone Exits put me in a dour mood, but truly, I’ll take the win!

  129. Zelepukin says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Nurse & Gryba with identical 5v5 shot shares tonight.

    Corsi 16-10
    Fenwick 14-6
    Shots 13-4 (!)
    Scoring chances 8-2
    High danger scoring chances 3-1

    Quality performance by both men to my eye, & those stats certainly support that.

    Backs up my statement earlier. That pairing played smart. Granted they are not facing the toughs as frequently as they use to, which is great. Nurse is learning very quickly on how to not over-commit and those two did a good job of separating the man from the puck on most shifts this game.

    No idea what game Pouzar was watching by saying they didn’t play well.

  130. Ice Sage says:

    Melman:
    Was at the game tonight – random thoughts:

    1). They don’t win this game 1-10 years ago
    2) Talbot glove save in the 2nd is my TSN turning point
    3) saw the RNH line and Drai line good.All 6 D were solid all night.Nucks had maybe 5 or 6 good scoring chances but regularly danger got pushed wide or shots blocked. Gryba and Nurse are an effective 3rd pair.Klef – Larsson are a legit 1st pair – holy shit does 77 close on fwds in a hurry.They look like they have tons of room and like Kaiser Soze, poof it’s gone
    4) size matters: Gryba, Nurse, Kassian, Lucic, Drai, Maroon, Pitlick, PJ – it adds up
    5) loved watching Szibsa realize he was about to drop them in the first against Lucic and then come to his senses
    6) Connor McDavid – my goodness aunt Edna can he fly
    7) Connor McDavid

    Best of all I got to chirp my nephews who are 7 and 9.I know that makes me a bad person, but they’ve been giving it to me for years and I’m not ashamed

    Edit: this good goalering thing is a real deal

    Totally agree except I’ll trade that Talbot save for Miller’s on McD in the 3rd. Canucks played well but Oilers finally have the talent edge.

  131. Ice Sage says:

    One area I’ve notice the Oilers better at is the calm reverse below the goal line – a really under-rated event but it buys a bit of time and control. That’s coaching and new personnel.
    This might *just* be a team built for the 2020’s

  132. Melman says:

    Ice Sage,

    This was on full display tonight. A number of times Russell and Sekera played catch, took their time and didn’t try and squeeze a breakout pass on what looked like a tight opening. Saw the other pairs the same – Gryba sure seems to give Nurse the job of moving it up unless he has to be the guy to do it.

    I like seeing TMac give Nurse those late game minutes. Good for his growth and confidence

  133. Bruce McCurdy says:

    GMB3:
    Bruce McCurdy,

    Bruce’s as a bit of non stats guy lemme state that I love hearing your opinions and always look forward to your posts. You’ve got a good grasp of stats and the eye test in your analysis and I’m a fan. Might not mean much but I say keep on keeping on.. Always look forward to seeing your posts on here

    Billy1977:
    GMB3,

    This

    Thanks to you both. Good to see your comments, Billy, please post more of them.

  134. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers could really use a 1984 Paul Coffey.

  135. admiralmark says:

    My Canuck friends are telling me McDavid refused to speak to the media after the game. Not that I care much but is this true? And if so do we know why?

  136. hunter1909 says:

    McDavid’s breakaway looks like his signature set play the opposition gets to worry about.

    Canucks just entered their own version of the MacT era: A hard fought, moral victory at the hands of some jumped up bullying visitors.

  137. hunter1909 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Canucks came out with a very aggressive forecheck and the Oil D withstood it, That is encouraging.

    The stretch pass to McDavid is the perfect response to the hard forecheck.

    This team can beat you a lot of ways. And I think they’re scratching the surface of what they can be.

    They’re already playing something that’s close to playoff style:

    Keep it simple; then beat the fuckers down with a combination of size, speed and talent.

  138. hunter1909 says:

    Russell is a great defenceman.

  139. haters says:

    Oilspill:
    Let me guess, ýou turned down the job LOL. At least he fucking knows hockey, more that most of the writers who using fancies to try to understand the game. At least he not a clueless Homer!

    Someone sounds jelly that he doesn’t have what Bruce has…

    Don’t worry with comments like this I’m sure everyone will be rushing to see what you comment next !

  140. haters says:

    I know +\- is an antiquated stat but it sure does tell a compelling story on the leaders of this team.
    Russell
    Larsson
    Kelfbom

    Bonifide and dominant

  141. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    First Oiler game I’ve been able to watch start to finish. I really liked teemu pulkkinen’s game. Won a lot of battles, laid some big hits, his whole line had a number of good chances and seemed to be matched up with the Sedin’s often.

  142. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    admiralmark,

    Just assume your Canucks friends are on Heroin. That’s what I do.

  143. Johnny says:

    texmex:
    Did anyone watch OT of the NJ CHI game??? Someone was on the ice the whole OT and turnedover the puck on the winning goal.

    Be careful. We are not allowed to point out flaws in this players game. He is so good at hockey that the little things that players do in game (manage shift lengths) do not apply to him.

    To be fair, maybe he is feeling like he is the only one that can score on his team, similar to the situation in Edm.

    If anyone is looking for examples as to why teammates may not see him as THE BEST teammate, look no further. He had multiple opportunities to change. I thought he had gone off 30 seconds in.

    The Chicago announcers gave it to him HARD.

  144. Woodguy says:

    Pouzar:
    Outside of the obvious….Nuge, Kassian, Nurse. Saw em good.

    Agreed, Klef too.

    I think that was Nurse’ best game of his career so far.

    Saw Russell real bad, lots of “off the glass and out”.

    He was forced to make a lot of plays on his back hand and he’s not that good at it.

    Pete needs to get a RHD pretty quickly I think.

  145. Woodguy says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Nurse & Gryba with identical 5v5 shot shares tonight.

    Corsi 16-10
    Fenwick 14-6
    Shots 13-4 (!)
    Scoring chances 8-2
    High danger scoring chances 3-1

    Quality performance by both men to my eye, & those stats certainly support that.

    I think they did a good job of rubbing out the puck carrier to gain possession all night.

    Need to be better moving the puck the other way, but they got it back often before anything happened in the dzone and that’s almost everything.

  146. tcho says:

    That Troy Stretcher looks like a player. Damnit.

  147. frjohnk says:

    Woodguy: Agreed, Klef too.

    I think that was Nurse’ best game of his career so far.

    Saw Russell real bad, lots of “off the glass and out”.

    He was forced to make a lot of plays on his back hand and he’s not that good at it.

    Pete needs to get a RHD pretty quickly I think.

    I didnt think much of the Oilers D moved the puck well, maybe Klefbom did, but maybe its just the breakaway pass and a few other times I remember he did move it well.

    But Vancouver does clog up the neutral zone well

    Somebody should start counting the number of times Sekera goes walkabout. We are lucky the Canucks could not generate anything when he made a few bad pinches.

    Cant believe Nurse and Gryba were the only Dmen who were more than 50% in all of corsi, fenwick, shots, scoring chances and high danger chances.

    Other 4 were outcorsied, out fenwicked, out shot, out scoring chanced, all 4 were even in high danger chances for and against.

    If we can get games like this from our 3rd pairing more often than not, its like getting scoring from the bottom 6 forwards and we will win more games because of it.

  148. Walter Gretzkys Neighbour says:

    Maybe the stats don’t address it or describe it, but I’m seeing an Oilers TEAM. For the first time in a decade or more. They hit, get position, take away space and time and seem to be working together.

    I like it a lot! This is group of players with some direction and cohesion.

    Doesn’t hurt that McDavid looks like he’s playing in a totally different space-time continuum.

    Personally, I’m going to enjoy watching a team look like they give a damn!

    Now go beat down the Senators!

    I’d like to add how much I appreciate the other commenters who provide insight and analysis. Thanks to all for making this site fun.

  149. wheatnoil says:

    Woodguy,

    frjohnk,
    Russell did indeed have a poor game of zone Exits, one of his worst actually. As Padre says, though, all but Klefbom struggled to move the puck.

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