G9 2016-17: SENATORS AT OILERS

It is now established we have left the past behind, venturing forth into a new world, in search of a place in the sun. How far up the table will the Edmonton Oilers go? If we agree second division is No. 17 and lower, this year’s journey may not get us all the way to the second season. At some point, I am going to have to retire legion references, from Donner Party to Nadir’s Raiders. For now, I will pack them away with the summer clothes, and perhaps they will stay there until such time as we have forgotten they once existed. We all come from somewhere, but some of us come from places with few good memories. This is us.

BEEP BEEP, HEY MISTER, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 3-5-0, goal differential -5
  • Oilers in October 2016: 7-1-0, goal differential +12

A year ago Game 9, the Oilers lost 3-2 to LAK on a late goal by Tanner Pearson. The Oilers have a chance tonight to complete a statement month that will echo down the canyons of the Pacific Division, leaving the rest of the division in an eternal double take.

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Edmonton leads the Pacific Division in everything: Points, ROWs, goal differential, shock and awe. The Oilers are ten points up on the Coyotes, and this is in the Bettman league—where clearance Clarence takes a month of Sundays. No sir, whatever happens from this point forward, it can be said here today that this Oilers team turned north in a tremendous way October 2016. Now, what happens in the next chapter of this book?

DEFENSE, AFTER EIGHT

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  • Oscar Klefbom looks pristine by the numbers 10 percent into the season. He is healthy, making plays with or without the puck, facing tough opposition and battling those warriors to a standstill. Corsi is real rel gone. Nice.
  • Darnell Nurse is coming along nicely (as he did in the first 11 games one year ago), with the key being Todd McLellan’s usage. The young man is displaying calm feet while also having momentary lapses of youth, and that should be expected. Tomorrow is promised to no one on a young and emerging team, but he does appear to be earning a long term role.
  • Adam Larsson has been a solid if unspectacular addition to the Oilers. I am most impressed with his decision making, he is efficient on the highest with or without the puck. He makes so many little passes in a game, chips and saucers and such, it is fun to see him get out of what could be trouble in such simple ways. We need to see him for a longer swath, but the arrows are good and plentiful.
  • Eric Gryba is the one player on the team who appears more comfortable without the puck. He is a good defender, noticeable mostly on the penalty kill and hammering opposition forwards along the wall until they cough up the puck. He is not a sexy player, but I like his experience and defending.
  • Kris Russell’s possession numbers have faded a little since the early days of the season (Edmonton’s team Corsi for 5×5 today is 47.3) but he has been a positive force so far to my eyes. One of the big benefits of Russell is his foot speed—he can get back to retrieve pretty well—and his veteran savvy. He fits this team, and may be around for more than one year.
  • Andrej Sekera is the one defender whose Corsi at 5×5 is an area of concern. He is battling tougher opposition and does have a new (and left-handed) partner, but you would like that possession number to be stronger. I am biased—love his work—but he needs to be closer to 50 than 40 in possession.

FORWARDS, AFTER EIGHT

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  • Connor McDavid is the most exciting player I have ever seen. His shifts are the most anticipated item in hockey, and his scoring rates are beautiful. There isn’t much to say, except luck never got it so right.
  • Tyler Pitlick has enjoyed some early success and may be able to stretch it beyond the Pakarinen return. The young winger has cooled recently, but there is appeal for the Oilers playing him (making TP eligible for the expansion draft) so he could be here a lot longer if things break right.
  • Benoit Pouliot has not been his usual consistent self, but does seem to be rounding into form in recent games. His scoring is solid, his aggressive forecheck has ebbed and flowed (he seemed tentative after the benching, understandable) over the eight games. I think a smart NHL team calls and asks after him before or at the deadline.
  • Zack Kassian has been a solid addition to the Oilers, perhaps playing too high in the order currently. His scoring at evens has been good, but the line (Nuge) needs to be stronger in possession and more offensively ribald. Kassian may not be able to help enough in those areas.
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins has performed well this year, I give him credit for hanging in when some of his wingers seems less than stellar. Scoring is fine if inconsistent, love his attention to detail when without the puck. He has been a very useful player in Todd McLellan’s lineup, as always.
  • Anton Lander is the modern Rasputin, he keeps finding a way to climb that hill. I give him all kinds of credit, the man learned how to get in there and make himself useful—then became consistent at those things. A lesson to be learned for everyone.
  • Jordan Eberle has been the quiet member of the top line so far, but contributed on offense and appears to be working extra hard in other areas, too. The maturation of his game coincides with better health, and we should probably acknowledge there are things he can do this season that were not possible a year ago. He is sometimes overlooked by the fanbase, including this blog’s author.
  • Anton Slepyshev is losing ground—as he did a year ago—but remains an intriguing piece of a possible future. Todd McLellan likes him and there is some evidence of usefulness—he is big, fast and strong—so we will see how this plays out.
  • Leon Draisaitl is having a nice start, but I find myself impatient for him to dominate the soft parade. Part of the issue is wingers—as is the case with the Nuge—and the boxcar numbers overall are good to great. So, maybe it is a case of not being satisfied with what should in fact be just that from the young center. He has greatness in him, I believe that—and that back checking play against the Canucks is recent proof.
  • Mark Letestu is having a solid start to the year, using his skills (faceoffs, utility, special teams) to make a difference. Some don’t like what he brings, I think he and Lander could be a fantastic penalty killing team for years to come.
  • Milan Lucic has delivered strong performances after waking from a sleepy start and may end up posting a strong offensive number. Many talk about his enforcing skills, I love that pass to McDavid to spring him for the winner against Vancouver. Lucic is a very good player with the puck on his stick, both because it is difficult to win it back, and because he makes good decisions. Fine player.
  • Patrick Maroon needs to get going a little, but I like his game and think he is a nice match for Leon. The problem (as I see it) is getting that line going offensively. The possession numbers and flow of play are not a problem for this line, but 5×5 scoring against the softs needs to be stronger.
  • Jesse Puljujarvi is a mannish boy who clearly has great possibilities. I think we may be getting a little different player than the scouting reports implied. He may end up being shy offensively according to scouting reports, while also delivering a more complete game. Someone mentioned he might be a strong center option down the line, and I can see the responsibility in his game. I like this player very much, while also understanding he may need some time in Bakersfield to hone his skills.

WHEN THEY RETURN

The Oilers have several players on IR, and one thing that came up yesterday on SSE surrounded what to do when that happens. Who goes to Bakersfield? Does anyone get traded?

  • L Matt Hendricks—I think he goes right back into the lineup, possibly replacing Tyler Pitlick. The time to trade Hendricks—he is UFA at the end of the year—is the deadline. I think Lander is more useful than Pitlick at this time, so it is TP to the pressbox, Anton Slepyshev to Bakersfield.
  • R Iiro Pakarinen—I believe the Finn probably goes to Bakersfield. They might call it conditioning but there are things about his game that put him (imo) behind Pitlick.
  • C-W Drake Caggiula—One suspects a stretch in the AHL—maybe two weeks—will be required before he makes his NHL debut. At that point, we may see Pitlick sent down to make room.
  • RD Mark Fayne—It doesn’t sound like he is coming back soon, but I believe he needs to play in a certain number of games to qualify for the expansion draft—Edmonton will get him those games.
  • LD Brandon Davidson—One suspects we see Matt Benning return to the minors when Davidson is activated, with Eric Gryba heading to the press box.
  • LD Andrew Ference—I enjoyed his years with the Bruins very much, the Oilers years were difficult for both player and team. These things happen, and it is clear he got everything he could (including a Stanley) out of his body before age took its toll. Sail on, Mr. Ference.

TONIGHT’S GAME

The Senators should be in trouble, one of three pairings are going to be able to handle the speed that is coming. That said, there is a danger here, Edmonton has been playing a little more loose than one would like and that could be a problem tonight. Ottawa has a terrific group of forwards and will get good-to-great goaltending tonight. Important to hammer those second and third pairings. What a start to the season!

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  1. Lowetide says:

    I have taken out every limit to commenting, including having to sign in. Please, all who cannot sign in and comment, try now.

  2. jake70 says:

    Gentleman, hope you managed to see an Atlantic puffin, Have never seen one myself.. they got that Oiler orange on them. Funky birds.

  3. Professor Q says:

    jm363561: A goal, an assist, and stats analysis. A Bear family hat trick!

    Ethan and his family?

  4. Professor Q says:

    Uh oh. For some reason I can’t quote nor reply to comments.

  5. Pouzar says:

    Hello World.

  6. Anonymous says:

    With all security down is tonight the night we find out what is under a kilt?

  7. Lowetide says:

    Quotes are off, I am trying to get people back in here and there seems to be some issues.

  8. Spengler says:

    “OMJO says:
    October 30, 2016 at 7:47 pm
    Is the Brick still owned by the Comries? Random question, I know.”

    I believe the Brick is owned by Leons now. Comrie has a small stake in the Cubs

  9. Lloyd B. says:

    My kilt comment just showed up as anonymous. Perhaps my issues were a harbinger of things to come on the interwebs tonight.

  10. Bruce McCurdy says:

    I can’t quote so I will paraphrase. Despite being consistently among the NHL’s top 10 RW scorers for years, EBERLE is playing poor overall hockey despite repeated embarrassments. He can score but can’t help win. Meanwhile GO OILERS (except some Oilers).

  11. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Lucic having a shit game imo

  12. Ryan says:

    This is one of those games where you feel like the Oilers will never score another goal ever.

    #offtheglassandout

  13. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    It’s on but I’m only kind of watching.

  14. Magisterrex says:

    Lots of Hope and a Prayer passing still.

  15. hunter1909 says:

    Nice try Nurse.

  16. hunter1909 says:

    If the Oilers lose, I suggest everyone discuss Ryan Nugent Hopkins.

    That’s a joke, for those of you without any sense of humour.

  17. Wintoon says:

    After spending ten years in the hockey wilderness it is extremely enjoyable just watch the Oilers play some winning hockey. As for all the analyses, to heck with that. I am simply enjoying.

  18. Lowetide says:

    Nice shot by Puljujarvi there.

  19. JDï™ says:

    hunter1909: :

    Next summer for Darned-hell, 1000 pucks a day into a metal garage door. We can track his progress by how often the door needs to be replaced.

  20. Lowetide says:

    Oilers seem to be more awake this period but no goals yet.

  21. OmJo says:

    The Senators aren’t as bad as I expected them to be.

  22. Bruce McCurdy says:

    OmJo:
    The Senators aren’t as bad as I expected them to be.

    I expected an inspired game from the Sens & am seeing it.

  23. Anonymous says:

    I’m commenting

  24. Pouzar says:

    Eberle back check. Bum.

  25. Georges says:

    Lowetide:
    Oilers seem to be more awake this period but no goals yet.

    And the score is 0-0. Halfway through the second. How refreshing. The Oilers are a defensive juggernaut.

  26. Ryan says:

    Larsson’s ringing it around the boards or off the glass a lot.

  27. OmJo says:

    Wintoon:
    After spending ten years in the hockey wilderness it is extremely enjoyable just watch the Oilers play some winning hockey. As for all the analyses, to heck with that. I am simply enjoying.

    You know what they say… Ignorance is bliss 😛

    (Said in jest)

  28. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Larsson having a shit game imo

  29. Lowetide says:

    Hoffman scores, 1-0 Ottawa. Hopefully that wakes up the Oilers, who are playing (imo) in a way the reminds me of the Sabres game.

  30. OmJo says:

    Well now, let’s see how they respond.

  31. Ice Sage says:

    OmJo:
    The Senators aren’t as bad as I expected them to be.

    Boucher’s 0-0-0 forecheck in evidence.

  32. hunter1909 says:

    O
    h.

  33. Jethro Tull says:

    Weak play in the first period of the game against the Caps by Eberle led to that Ottawa goal.

  34. Halfwise says:

    A GA on the top pairing? Unexpected.

  35. Jethro Tull says:

    Poor call.

  36. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the game ends 1-0 Ottawa the way things are going.

  37. OmJo says:

    Jethro Tull:
    Weak play in the first period of the game against the Caps by Eberle led to that Ottawa goal.

    Hm… *does the math* I don’t see it.

    Oh, wait… *carries the 2* ah-ha! It all makes sense now.

  38. hunter1909 says:

    Ottawa play an honest style of hockey.

    They’re plenty good enough to handle these Barbara Ann Scotts.

  39. geowal says:

    Really don’t enjoy the behind net camera for extended periods, usually powerplays.

  40. Soup Fascist says:

    I can’t express how much I hate the end zone camera SN insists on using on PP.

  41. OmJo says:

    Ottawa be like: this is how you PP, Edmonton.

  42. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the game ends 1-0 Ottawa the way things are going.

    Can’t create a damn thing, I’m with Remenda in thinking if this gets to 2-0 it’s ocer

  43. Soup Fascist says:

    Anonymous:
    Really don’t enjoy the behind net camera for extended periods, usually powerplays.

    Great minds ……

  44. Anonymous says:

    “We worked really hard at waving our sticks tonight.” — Edmonton Oilers on their defensive game.

  45. Lucinius says:

    Not thrilled with the Oilers tonight. They aren’t playing that well. Missing a lot of passes and being very lazy/sloppy in the defensive and neutral zones. So far, I’d say the Sens deserve the win more.

    Hoping the Oilers turn it around.

  46. Lloyd B. says:

    Great month but a reset is needed. The upcoming extended road trip may just be what they need.

  47. hunter1909 says:

    Senators exposing Oilers “Cinderella” Defence tonight.

  48. Soup Fascist says:

    Hey Karlsson. The CFR is next week. F me.

  49. jp says:

    What type of defence what that by Karlsson on McDavid? That was really weird.

  50. Halfwise says:

    LadiesloveSmid: Can’t create a damn thing, I’m with Remenda in thinking if this gets to 2-0 it’s ocer

    If it gets to
    PANTONE 18-1354 TPX
    it’s ochre.

  51. OmJo says:

    Let’s try to stop Hoffman, mkay? Thanks.

  52. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Here’s an idea — quit giving the puck to Hoffman.

  53. OmJo says:

    jp:
    What type of defence what that by Karlsson on McDavid? That was really weird.

    I think that was called desperation, lol

  54. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Hoffman>mcdavid

  55. Gerta Rauss says:

    One too many white jerseys for every puck battle at the moment

  56. fuzzy muppet says:

    This game is really boring.

    Time for the world series I guess.

  57. Clarkenstein says:

    Would it be safe to say Drysaddle has motivation issues?

  58. hunter1909 says:

    7-1 was great.

    Looks like 8-1 is turning out to be Oilers Nijmegen Bridge.

  59. Lowetide says:

    That is probably the best sortie I have seen from Nurse in his career. Really nice.

  60. OmJo says:

    I like Pitlick, I really do, but I didn’t even realise he was playing until that last shift.

  61. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Was there a Yeezy concert last night?

  62. Lowetide says:

    Well, the Oilers have played not well, and Craig Anderson is 20 minutes from a shutout. A playoff team would get two points from this game.

  63. Anonymous says:

    Hi DSF

  64. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: A playoff team would get two points from this game.

    Tomorrow everyone wakes up with a pumpkin, a hangover and a missing shoe.

  65. Lowetide says:

    27-30 after two in the Corgis 5×5.

  66. oilpower says:

    Oilers should try playing tight hockey this isn’t vancouver to many sloppy lazy plays!

  67. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Lost in the fog of that period were two very nice passes by Anton Lander. Would be nice t see him find his offensive mojo again.

  68. Jethro Tull says:

    Lowetide:
    Well, the Oilers have played not well, and Craig Anderson is 20 minutes from a shutout. A playoff team would get two points from this game.

    That’s unfair and a disservice to the hard work of Anderson and the Senators.

    Can’t play every game amazing.

  69. Anonymous says:

    Living in Ottawa, having to watch the local feed, and seeing the Oil forget how to make and take a pass….fcking torture! Every pass on the rush is either a foot too far ahead or a foot too far behind and goes right back the other way.

  70. OmJo says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    20pts in 38gp a couple years ago. Over PPG pace in the AHL the last two years. There has to be a player there somewhere, right?

  71. Lowetide says:

    Jethro Tull: That’s unfair and a disservice to the hard work of Anderson and the Senators.

    Can’t play every game amazing.

    I don’t think the Oilers are sharp at all. Senators forwards are playing well, as expected, and Anderson has made some nifty saves. Edmonton has not tested the soft Ottawa defense imo, and a playoff team, a good team, would expose that area.

  72. OmJo says:

    I’m totally lost on why they’re talking about a referee right now.

  73. Bruce McCurdy says:

    OmJo:
    Bruce McCurdy,

    20pts in 38gp a couple years ago. Over PPG pace in the AHL the last two years. There has to be a player there somewhere, right?

    There’s definitely a player in there. If said player could score a point a week or so that would be a real asset.

  74. Lowetide says:

    OmJo:
    I’m totally lost on why they’re talking about a referee right now.

    Might have been the mugging by Karlsson on 97. I laughed, because it was funny. No penalty there had to be the refs deciding McDavid drew too many in the first period.

  75. Diesel says:

    Can chalk that goal against up to Larsson inexplicably icing the puck after shaking a check and having all day to do anything but blast it down the ice.

  76. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Lowetide: I don’t think the Oilers are sharp at all. Senators forwards are playing well, as expected, and Anderson has made some nifty saves. Edmonton has not tested the soft Ottawa defense imo, and a playoff team, a good team, would expose that area.

    You mentioned last game they’re were playing like a team at the end of a winning streak. I saw the same & am seeing more of it tonight. Plus Ottawa is checking the shit out of them, needed to do something on those 3 powerplays in the first & never got to first base.

  77. OmJo says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Bring back Nelson!

    Maybe Lander is the most snakebitten player on the planet. I don’t know but I’d like to see some offense, any offense. Even an own goal at this point. I’m kidding… Kind of.

  78. OmJo says:

    Lowetide,

    They were talking about how good one of the refs are at calling goals/no goals. Not even anything related to the game or that “defensive play” by Karlsson.

  79. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Diesel:
    Can chalk that goal against up to Larsson inexplicably icing the puck after shaking a check and having all day to do anything but blast it down the ice.

    Or Klefbom inexplicably abandoning the front of the net & leaving Hoffman a wide open space.

  80. OmJo says:

    No, no, no Spector. No. Kris Russell does not equal Erik fucking Karlsson. Just no. No.

  81. Lowetide says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Or Klefbom inexplicably abandoning the front of the net & leaving Hoffman a wide open space.

    That’s how I saw it, but Larsson got called out farther up the thread. Oh, those blasted eyeballs! 🙂

  82. Anonymous says:

    Wtf is up with this place? How do I log back in?

  83. Ice Sage says:

    Should be a good third period. How deep can these Oilers dig?

  84. Anonymous says:

    This is the best game I’ve seen from Nuge in a long, long time. He’s killing it.

  85. OmJo says:

    Draisaitl promoted to top line.

  86. OmJo says:

    Hard hit on Letestu there. Sens turning up the heat.

  87. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Nuge and Connor the two best Oilers tonight, talbot and klef have been good.

    Everyone else standing out as poor

  88. OmJo says:

    Can we see a Nuge-McDavid-Eberle line? Please?

  89. Lowetide says:

    Okay, I have re-set the log in, so let’s see if it works now.

  90. Pouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    Okay, I have re-set the log in, so let’s see if it works now.

    PHEW

  91. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Fuck that is a garbage call, how you call that and not the hold on karlsson is a load of hot shit

  92. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Nurse pulls a Karlsson & this time it’s a penalty. Nice consistency refs

  93. Acumen says:

    What an unbelievably weak call.

  94. Professor Q says:

    How was that trip on Puljujarvi not called, nor the targeting plays on Letestu?

  95. JJS says:

    I think Drais needs some time on Nuge’s wing. He looks a bit disinterested.

    What is Cags status? Be nice to have another set of jets up the middle.

  96. Younger Oil says:

    That ref can go fuck himself. Seriously.

    The NHL needs to crack the fuck down on their refs. They do NOT call games evenly.

  97. russ99 says:

    We’re getting soundly outplayed.

    Talbot keeping us in this one.

    Maybe we can get a lucky bounce to get back into this one.

  98. Pouzar says:

    What a joke

  99. Professor Q says:

    Younger Oil:
    That ref can go fuck himself. Seriously.

    The NHL needs to crack the fuck down on their refs. They do NOT call games evenly.

    Careful now. Suggesting that they be accountable will get you fined and/or suspended…

  100. Jethro Tull says:

    Another weak call

  101. Oil2Oilers says:

    I would be upset about the score line, if I could stay awake

  102. Lowetide says:

    Talbot remains in that fantastic run he is on.

  103. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Clarkenstein:
    Would it be safe to say Drysaddle has motivation issues?

    No I don’t think that is safe to say at all.

  104. OmJo says:

    JJS:
    I think Drais needs some time on Nuge’s wing.He looks a bit disinterested.

    What is Cags status?Be nice to have another set of jets up the middle.

    I’m prepared to eat crow for this, but: starting Caggiula, a rookie LW who hasn’t played since preseason, as 3C – especially on the road – is a recipe for disaster.

  105. Lowetide says:

    Oilers starting to wake up now.

  106. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Thing is a PP probably doesn’t help us – and that’s a problem.

  107. OmJo says:

    If Matthews has more goals than McDavid in that game I can’t turn my TV on for the rest of the month.

  108. Oil2Oilers says:

    Bruce McCurdy: No I don’t think that is safe to say at all.

    Would it be safe to say Draisaitl is a good NHL center on the cusp of becoming a very good NHL center?

  109. OmJo says:

    This is the Nuge we know and love.

  110. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    I hope I’m wrong!

  111. OmJo says:

    Only thing worse than getting shutout is getting shutout when you have 4 PP opportunities.

    C’mon Oilers, time to wake up and get back into this game.

  112. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Pouliot off his game hurts RNH, needs one top 6 winger

  113. striatic says:

    OmJo:
    If Matthews has more goals than McDavid in that game I can’t turn my TV on for the rest of the month.

    If the Oilers win, I won’t care a lick.

  114. OmJo says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    He was flying in the first period and a half.

  115. flyfish1168 says:

    When I thought I was going to lose all faith in the refs tonight

  116. jake70 says:

    Geez….Kassian wasn’t ready for that loose puck right to him in slot.

  117. Pouzar says:

    Tie this shit up boys

  118. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Oil2Oilers: Would it be safe to say Draisaitl is a good NHL center on the cusp of becoming a very good NHL center?

    Yes I for one would be comfortable saying tnat

  119. OmJo says:

    striatic,

    Even if we won 15-1, all the media would talk about for the next 500 years is Matthews scoring more than McDavid lol…

  120. Oil2Oilers says:

    My faith in this year Powerplay is lagging my faith in this years team by 2/1 margin

  121. OmJo says:

    Eberle has the weakest one timers. He’s a wrist shot player but I’d almost rather he do that instead of slap it.

  122. OmJo says:

    Damn, thought we scored there…

  123. OmJo says:

    Put Nuge on the 1line for the rest of this game. He’s earned it.

  124. jake70 says:

    Drai wandering behind the net on the shot by Russel, got the net young man.

  125. Younger Oil says:

    Gryba has been decent during this streak, but he has been a hot turd for a lot of tonight.

  126. OmJo says:

    Was that Arabic music played during that stoppage?

  127. Yakupov me says:

    7 minutes left…offensive zone face-off…..Gryba and Nurse…get out there!???

  128. Pouzar says:

    Jezzuz Gryba

  129. OmJo says:

    Yakupov me,

    A few questionable matchups/decisions this season made by the coaching staff, IMO, which have been overshadowed by the winning.

  130. geowal says:

    It’s a McBlendery kind of evening, I can’t tell what line is out half the time.

  131. Edmonton_fan says:

    Is this what occurs when we outshoot the opposition?

  132. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    The story tonight is the anemic power play. What exactly is woodcroft doing with the pp?

  133. OmJo says:

    Anybody ever see that episode of Fresh Prince of Bel Air where Will Smith was playing for a university basketball team, and the coaches only play was “pass it to Will”? That’s kind of what it’s like with McDavid.

  134. OmJo says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    The story tonight is the anemic power play. What exactly is woodcroft doing with the pp?

    Part of the problem is, instead of going after a PP QB in the summer, we signed Russell.

  135. geowal says:

    Oh if only Gryba possessed a one timer

  136. Professor Q says:

    OmJo:
    Anybody ever see that episode of Fresh Prince of Bel Air where Will Smith was playing for a university basketball team, and the coaches only play was “pass it to Will”? That’s kind of what it’s like with McDavid.

    You do realise how that one ended, right? Carlton had the shot, damn it!

  137. Hockey Project says:

    Ouch. Too bad about that slow release. Anderson could have been sleep walking and made it to the other side of the net.

  138. OmJo says:

    The hell was that sound?

  139. OmJo says:

    Professor Q,

    Who would be Carlton on this team? 🤔

  140. OmJo says:

    “Klefbom great job to keep it in temporarily” 😂

  141. flyfish1168 says:

    RNH top face off guy tonight for us.

  142. OmJo says:

    I think our D forgot there was no goaltender in the net…. What was that?

  143. Ice Sage says:

    Well, pressure’s off!

  144. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Welp the oilers did not play well enough to win and they did not.

    On to the next one!

  145. geowal says:

    OmJo:
    Professor Q,

    Who would be Carlton on this team?

    Lander

  146. Lowetide says:

    Helluva month, boys. That was fun!

  147. OmJo says:

    TMac shortened the bench in the third? Didn’t notice JP, Lander and Pitlick.

  148. OmJo says:

    Well, if we’re going to get shut out the human in me can fathom it in this kind of situation. Wishing all the best to Anderson’s wife. He played one Hell of a game, and deserved the shutout.

  149. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Oooo low energy game. Kudos to Anderson he made some nice stops.

    Saw Drai bad tonight. Saw a ton of “off the glass and out” by the d. Liked Nurse, thought it was his best game. That power play was craptacular.

    Excellent month! Definitely have some kinks to work out but overall a solid solid start to the season. Big road trip and some good tests here.

    Go Oilers!

  150. Jaxon says:

    Lucic made a bit of a dumb play on that last goal, no? He didn’t rushed a pass back to the D that got intercepted, when he may have been able to simply drive to the net or move it down low to Eberle. Bit of a panic move. Or am I way off base?

  151. Gerta Rauss says:

    Not an attractive hockey game, probably got what we deserved tonight

    Big road trip coming up, lets keep the mojo going

  152. frjohnk says:

    Well, the corgis should be better after this game.

    Talbot had another gem.

    Anderson was flawless.

    If we are going to lose, I don’t mind it’s because Anderson had a whale of a game. Nice to see him play good, even at the Oilers expense.

  153. Acumen says:

    Well. Smashed em in the Corsi battle. I like us better when we don’t do that.

  154. Chachi says:

    As soon as Anderson was named the starter there was no way the Oilers were going to win that game.

  155. Lucinius says:

    Well deserved loss.

    If someone doesn’t fix the powerplay, or get fired for engineering such a farce, the Oilers are screwed long term. Good teams can rely on a powerplay to, at worst, bail them out in games like this. Our powerplays should be declined for the sanity of all involved.

    A lot of Oilers were bad tonight. Very few were good (Talbot, McDavid, RNH, Lander were the only ones I didn’t see screw up repeatedly, but there were probably a few others).

  156. Pouzar says:

    I have more time for Gryba than most but man I think Nurse needs a partner with a least a modicum of puck moving ability.

  157. ykjoe says:

    Chachi:
    As soon as Anderson was named the starter there was no way the Oilers were going to win that game.

    agreed

  158. Pouzar says:

    frjohnk: Well, the corgis should be better after this game.

    Score Adjusted

    EDM: 53.76%

  159. Pouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    Helluva month, boys. That was fun!

    This.

  160. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Lucinius:

    If someone doesn’t fix the powerplay, or get fired for engineering such a farce, the Oilers are screwed long term. Good teams can rely on a powerplay to, at worst, bail them out in games like this. Our powerplays should be declined for the sanity of all involved.

    Yes it’s a serious issue.

  161. OmJo says:

    If we lose 2 games every month I think that still makes us at least a half-decent hockey club.

  162. jake70 says:

    Jaxon:
    Lucic made a bit of a dumb play on that last goal, no? He didn’t rushed a pass back to the D that got intercepted, when he may have been able to simply drive to the net or move it down low to Eberle. Bit of a panic move. Or am I way off base?

    yep ( agreed)

  163. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Can’t win em all. PP let Oilers down tonight, & has been less than stellar all year. That game tape won’t make Oscar Klefbom’s personal Hall of Fame collection; though he was far from the only culprit I saw him bad on both Ottawa goals.

    At the moment the first one went in I said to my wife “there’s your game winner”. This game had 1-0’written all over it from early times. Ottawa played damn hard for their goalie & he backed them up with an excellent performance. Props to him under difficult circumstances.

    On the bright side Nuge was excellent but can’t buy a goal these days.

    A lot of plays near the net where the puck went by or between a couple of Oilers sticks. Never could get the sucker to settle down in the kill zone.

  164. LMHF#1 says:

    They got a ton of pucks to the right spots, but no one was there.

    Everyone needs an extensive “When Connor has the puck – get to the damn slot” lesson.

    And why are they passing to the D when none of them can shoot?

    Frustrating. They’re better than that Ottawa team.

  165. rickithebear says:

    Edm
    8 HD area shots 0 goals
    8 of 37
    29 X 1 = 29
    8 x 5 = 40
    69 from 37

    Ott
    10 HD area shots 1 goal
    12 x 1 = 12
    10 x 5 = 50
    62 from 22

  166. Stelio Kontos says:

    Second you believe in them they get ya. Can’t believe I almost fell for it again.

  167. Pouzar says:

    Bruce McCurdy: On the bright side Nuge was excellent but can’t buy a goal these days.

    Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 41s41 seconds ago
    RNH led #Oilers in shots (5) & FO% (11-for-16) tonight.

    CF: 78.26%

  168. Numenius says:

    I want to see Lander on the PP in front of the net!

    He was a PP wizard when Nelson put him there.

    Would solve the PP and Lander’s scoring drought.

  169. fifthcartel says:

    Edmonton needs right-handed players on the powerplay badly, but have virtually no one to choose from. You’re not putting Gryba/Pitlick on the top unit and I’d be extremely hesitant to put Larsson/Letestu. Pulujujarvi is way too green for it.

    I know they want McDavid out there, that makes sense. Lucic, sure, they signed him to a huge contract Draisaitl is part of the verbal 3 future, but they need a right handed defensemen if they’re set on those three on there.

  170. Pouzar says:

    Nurse CF: 65.52%

    Big game possession wise for Line 3 (Pou-Nuge-Kass)

  171. Lucinius says:

    On the positive side of things.. the Kings and Flames also lost tonight.

    And the Leafs.

  172. Lowetide says:

    Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 15m15 minutes ago

    “We had no substance, no attack, no tenacity to recover pucks… We needed some better performances.” Coach McLellan on #Oilers loss
    =

    Yes. Quite.

  173. Gerta Rauss says:

    Pouzar:
    I have more time for Gryba than most but man I think Nurse needs a partner with a least a modicum of puck moving ability.

    Davidson would be a start

    They’re still 1 forward short as well, preferably a RW from the Hemsky tree (skill, with an expiring contract), or a C that allows Drai to play RW for either Nuge or Mcdavid

    /spitballing

  174. Pouzar says:

    Gerta Rauss: Davidson would be a start

    They’re still 1 forward short as well, perferably a RW from the Hemsky tree (skill, with an expiring contract), or a C that allows Drai to play RW for either Nuge or Mcdavid

    /spitballing

    Is Davy at least getting close? I thought I read that a few days ago?!?!?

  175. Gerta Rauss says:

    Pouzar,

    Not sure, the last I read was “undisclosed” or some such

  176. Pouzar says:

    JP one minute in the 3rd period.

    Why does it scare me that he will end up in BAK?

  177. rickithebear says:

    Oilers best pp forwards gf
    #50 mcdavid 7.86
    #60 lucic 7.51
    #61 RNH 7.49
    #78 Letestu 7.29
    #88 Rberle 7.12
    #127 Pouliot 6.65
    #128 lander 6.51

    Ppg/60
    #26 pouliot 2.27
    #49 Eberlr 2.02
    #95 Letestu 1.67
    #116 Lander 1.53
    #127 Draisatl 1.46

  178. Frank the dog says:

    Don’t get too freaked out. I’d be surprised if we didn’t see some roster changes now.
    next game they’ll be pretty pissed off. then we’ll see the backbone of this team.

  179. GMB3 says:

    Gimme some Slepy!!!

  180. unca miltie says:

    Talbot is still playing well. When they play at home again, IMO they will have 18 points.

  181. HT Joe says:

    Well, at least the Oilers lost to an Eastern team… just like the last time they lost.

    *checks schedule*
    At worst, the Oilers can’t lose to a Western Conference team until they play the Dallas Stars on Nov. 11. When was the last time the Oilers were undefeated by Western Conference teams into mid-November?

  182. Hilmar says:

    rickithebear:

    29 X 1 = 29
    8 x 5 = 40

    I’m not saying your math is wrong, but what does it mean?

  183. Bruce McCurdy says:

    HT Joe:
    Well, at least the Oilers lost to an Eastern team… just like the last time they lost.

    *checks schedule*
    At worst, the Oilers can’t lose to a Western Conference team until they play the Dallas Stars on Nov. 11.When was the last time the Oilers were undefeated by Western Conference teams into mid-November?

    Not just undefeated, but without conceding a single point.

  184. Gerta Rauss says:

    https://www.nhl.com/oilers/video/post-game-raw–todd-mclellan/t-281751750/c-45857403

    McLellan post game

    …we looked good doing nothing…
    wrt to the powerplay

    I was asked this morning what do you need to improve on..?…well,we’re 9 games in, and we’re not the Stanley cup champions,how about everything..?

  185. rickithebear says:

    Hilmar
    1000 average LD shots gets you 32 goals
    1000 avg HD shots gets you 162 goals
    5.1 to 1

    Not a specific number
    Just a ratio value

    Showing 37 and had similar chance

    The other night
    23 shots 15 had
    8 ld 8
    15 he 75
    23 shots 83

    Like a high danger power factor

    37 was 69
    22 was 62

    23 was 83

    People seem to get the value of hd shots by this power factor math

    1 ld shot power factor of 1
    1 hd shot power factor of 5

  186. Ronald Chevalier says:

    Hilmar: I’m not saying your math is wrong, but what does it mean?

    This really made me laugh more than it should have….time for bed

  187. SwedishPoster says:

    I asked a few days ago what will happen when teams start to adapt by backing up and clog the neutral zone. Well this is what happens.
    This is ofcourse good old trap coach Guy Boucher’s style all along but the Oil will face this more than once this season and they need to find the keys to solve it.
    The coach spoke about a lack of tenacity tonight. I disagree on that being a main problem. For me the main issue was passing, it just wasn’t up to par to many passes that didn’t connect or forced the receiver to slow down.

    Imo the coaching is key when you want to break down the 1-3-1, it’s a lot more on tactics and having set plays otherwise the players risk getting frustrated bumping their heads against the neutral zone wall. It’s kind of like in football where you either need a strategy to pass the ball or rush the ball towards the end zone. Either agreat passing game through the neutral zone, taking advantage of the fact that teams backing up tends to get on their heals a bit, make them move east-west. Or you use the time you’re given in your own zone to build up speed and just fly through the neutral zone again using the tendency of teams getting on their heals, like McDavid did early and Puljujärvi did and then made a strange and stupid pass on the blue line when he’d done the difficult part and broken down the trap. The third way is to just get by the red line and go deep but imo that’s what you do if all else fails.

    Obviously it’s on the players to pass the puck better and sharper than they did tonight.

    Oh and having a PP that at least is ok helps. The solution to a dysfunctional PP is not to just shoot whenever there’s a small opening but that seems to be the idea right now.

    Well it’s not all bad the team still look strong defensively and the overall structure looks very solid, they still created chances though not nearly at the same pace as the earlier games. They just need to adapt to teams adapting. That’s the next step tbh.

  188. spoiler says:

    SwedishPoster:

    I find little to disagree with here.

    I think McLellan, right from the pre-game, was about the old technique of goin’ to the whip when there’s a winning streak.

    This was a kind of game where a bounce or whatever could win it. That’s why so many people are pissed off about the PP, esp after the anemic performance going in.

    They’re a better team than Ott but the Sens made up for it with hard work. One blown assignment by KBomb at the wrong moment and its in the net. As LT said above, good teams will find a way to win these games, and that’s likely the next level for this team.

    Consistency. Work Ethic. Determination.

    McD has already got them the last one, but the whole team needs to grab the first two.

    But they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt with their win steak… and they didn’t mail it in, but didn’t control the play either. Let’s see what they do next game… in a funk or fundamental?

  189. spoiler says:

    OK so the PP sucks… PP’s are streaky, but this is now a thing.

    After a month of play, one thing that stands out is the wingers’ commitment to coming back deep in their end when the puck is below the goal line. This may have something to do with the shot distance metrics that have come out, but our wingers absolutely abandon defending the point man when the puck goes low.

    It looks structured and it appears to work well, and maybe this has been asked for all along by coaching, but they seem to do it line in and line out now.

    And it is far far better than the getting-caught-in-no-man’s-land we saw so often before.

    I’m much happier about this loss than many many losses these past 26 years.

  190. OF17 says:

    Strange decision by McLellan to put Gryba out there with 6 and change to go in the 3rd down a goal. Nurse was having a good game, but Gryba completely hamstrings our ability to create offense, and he was a direct contributor to two icings on that shift. Bad play by Gryba, but what was McLellan thinking?

    We need Davidson back, but until then, I think it’s time for Benning to see some ice. A more versatile D in that 6 hole tonight might’ve made a difference. Barring that, the coach needed to double shift Larsson and Russell with Nurse to compensate.

  191. Skeeziks says:

    The Oilers will really have to up their game if they want to avoid being embarrassed by the Leafs in Toronto. They are playing a wide open, free wheeling style of hockey that could lead to one of the teams being blown out.

  192. Oilspill says:

    Funny when we lose 80% of the players are bums. We got beat by a motivated goal tender and an anemic PP.
    By the way 2 goals is pretty much minimum needed to win a game. Who was on for goals against. there’s our problem. Where were our point producers. Another issue.

  193. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    SwedishPoster,

    This is good stuff right here! There were so many “off the glass and out” tonight, I was shaking my head. Crisp clean passing, its an art, its a science and its the lifeblood of hockey teams. Everyone just seemed a tad off last night (even CmD), not lazy, not slacking but just a split second behind the eight ball. I agree with LTs sentiment, team at the end of a winning streak.

    PP is bad, oh so very very bad. Agree with a few others up above, they need more right handed options. Too many lefties and for the right handed shots out there too much static play, its easy to block a passing lane when you don’t move, guys need to get their feet in gear on the PP, and yes a bomb form the point would definitely help.

    Now the announcers mentioned it probably close to a dozen times and last night was the most obvious for me but holy smokes someone needs to get the ice in the new barn figured out fast. There were some incredibly bouncy pucks today and I think that help contribute to what SwedishPoster has highlighted above.

    On that same note I’m actually looking forward to seeing the team on the road against some of these eastern teams and good/great ice surfaces in most of the arenas.

    Skeeziks,

    I hope its a track meet! It would be awesome to get some good fast skating, free wheeling hockey out there. Flames tried to play that way and its didn’t work out so well. Hopefully Talbot can stay in his groove and if Andersen keeps up with the early yips it could be a fun game.

  194. tcho says:

    SwedishPoster,

    Thank you – this expresses what I was thinking.

    Wonderful October for an Oilers fan though.

  195. Lowetide says:

    Skeeziks:
    The Oilers will really have to up their game if they want to avoid being embarrassed by the Leafs in Toronto. They are playing a wide open, free wheeling style of hockey that could lead to one of the teams being blown out.

    That should be a fantastic game.

  196. russ99 says:

    Skeeziks:
    The Oilers will really have to up their game if they want to avoid being embarrassed by the Leafs in Toronto. They are playing a wide open, free wheeling style of hockey that could lead to one of the teams being blown out.

    That plays right into our hands.

    Last night the defensive structure was sound, but we couldn’t put two passes together on the breakout or before the first shot in the offensive zone.

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