G21 2016-17 OILERS AT AVALANCHE

The Edmonton Oilers hit the road to Denver (tonight) and Phoenix (Friday) before coming home for games on Sunday (Scottsdale) and Tuesday (Don Mills) to round out the month. This is going to be a fascinating week, as a playoff team probably goes 3-1-0 against this schedule. What will the Oilers do?

ROCKY MOUNTAIN HIGH, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0, goal differential -7
  • Oilers in October 2016: 7-2-0, goal differential +10
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2, goal differential -1
  • Oilers in November 2016: 3-6-1 goal differential -8
  • Oilers after 20, 2015: 7-12-1, goal differential -8
  • Oilers after 20, 2016: 11-8-1, goal differential +8

G21 a year ago featured fantabulous goaling from Anders Nilsson and no goals from the Oilers, a 1-0 loss to the Washington Capitals. I look forward to the day when looking back on the previous season involves more wins than losses—perhaps next year.

RYAN MURPHY

Darren Dreger of TSN is quoted as saying Ryan Murphy is being shopped and a Western Conference team is among those interested. I liked him a lot in his draft year, as did a lot of astute prospect watchers:

  • Kirk Luedeke, Bruins Draft Watch: The most skilled prospect at the defense position in the entire 2011 draft, and you can make the case that he could be the most talented player overall. A 5+ skater on the 1-5 scale; explosive acceleration, dynamic top speed with extra separation gear. A master of his edges; can cut and turn on a dime and shake would-be forecheckers with ease. When he revs it up through the neutral zone, few can slow him down.

There are two things that give me pause these years later. First is injury—he has not been able to stay healthy. The second item is where to play him—third pairing RH side—and the Oilers are invested in Matt Benning and have Brandon Davidson in there somewhere, too. Could Murphy make enough of a difference at 5×4 to make the 5×5 risk worthwhile?

BROSSOIT WILLIAMS

Laurent Brossoit photo by Mark Williams

I think we can agree the backup goaltending job (Oilers edition) remains up in the air, both this season and into the future. An interesting dilemma may lie ahead for Peter Chiarelli in this area. I will bet you a 2-4 that Craig MacTavish and the established management group love Laurent Brossoit—former Oil King, helluva trade to get him, good soldier. What’s the problem? Peter Chiarelli’s college hire Nick Ellis has the early edge in the numbers.

  • Nick Ellis 6gp, 2.38 .931
  • Laurent Brossoit 8gp, 2.53 .924
  • Source

If Craig MacTavish were still GM, Brossoit would be here already—pretty sure. Nick Ellis is going to play in the AHL for at least this season, maybe next one too. I think this is a battle worth watching.

PATRICK MAROON

Corsica.Hockey does great work, when I retire first thing to do is to dig in and understand. One of the surface items I do get is the combos page—and the lines. If you list the Oilers lines based on anything (5×5 Scoring Chance Percentage is below), Patrick Maroon shows up early and often and with all three major centers.

  1. Maroon—Draisaitl—Puljujarvi 76.47 percent in 69 minutes.
  2. Maroon—Nuge—Eberle 62.50 percent in 26 minutes.
  3. Lucic—McDavid—Eberle 59.18 percent in 123 minutes.
  4. Maroon—McDavid—Eberle 57.14 percent in 78 minutes.
  5. Pouliot—Nuge—Kassian 55.17 percent in 97 minutes.
  6. Lucic—McDavid—Puljujarvi 50.00 percent in 35 minutes.
  7. Lander—Letestu—Pitlick 46.67 percent in 57 minutes.
  8. Lucic—Draisaitl—Pitlick 33.33 percent in 44 minutes.
  9. Source

button-expansion

Some very smart people are posting expansion rosters now, Craig Button (above) and Frank Seravalli among them. I find this interesting, and both lists are fascinating (I will post the Seravalli tomorrow as a preview to our conversation on the Lowdown). What we are likely to see is a series of trades before the deadline, with men like Fleury, Davidson, Dzingel, Silfverberg and others sent away. The typical expansion player is a fellow like Read, and I imagine we will see a mountain of trades after the expansion draft.

My guess is that a team like Edmonton will try to make a deal surrounding Benoit Pouliot or another expensive winger (I would protect Pouliot), but that the club will not be shocked if they lose Davidson. My other guess is that the worry early in the fall over expansion LV was Griffin Reinhart, and the current injury—while both vague and convenient—may not be enough to discourage the Golden Knights from drafting the big defender. GMs love the Reinhart type and there aren’t likely to be many available.

THE ART ROSS

It has been 30 years since Wayne Gretzky won his (seventh and) final Art Ross as an Edmonton Oilers center, and since then the club has had very few contenders. Since then, there have been close calls (Messier was second to LAK Gretzky in 1989-90, Doug Weight finished in the top 10 in 2000-01) but nothing close to Connor McDavid’s current run.

art-ross

If you are a younger Oilers fan, allow me to impress upon you the degree of difficulty involving in winning this trophy. It is so rare to win the thing, almost impossible without a brilliant linemate alongside. For me, that is probably the biggest issue for McDavid in winning the Art Ross: Who is going to cash those passes? This is serious business and I don’t think we have the mixture figured out just yet, but you can smell the whisky burning down the copperhead road. I think Maroon/Puljujarvi might be it this season.

DESERT ISLAND STAT

If you had to choose one stat per position, what would it be? For me, I would pick even-strength save percentage for goalies, CorsiRel 5×5 percentage for defensemen and 5×5/60 for forwards, and would want to know where the players ranked across the league.

Even-Strength SP

  • Cam Talbot .922 (No. 16 among starters)

CorsiRel 5×5

  • Matt Benning 4.6 (No. 19)
  • Eric Gryba 2.6 (No. 48)
  • Oscar Klefbom 1.7 (No. 63)
  • Adam Larsson 0.6 (No. 77)
  • Darnell Nurse 0.3 (No. 84)
  • Andrej Sekera -2.9 (No. 152)
  • Kris Russell -8.6 (No. 188 out of 191 NHL defensemen)

5×5 points-per-60

  • Connor McDavid 2.95 (No. 12)
  • Tyler Pitlick 2.22 (No. 44)
  • Anton Slepyshev 2.13 (No. 56)
  • Jordan Eberle 1.87 (No. 90)
  • Leon Draisaitl 1.82 (No. 98)
  • Patrick Maroon 1.77 (No. 107)
  • Jesse Puljujarvi 1.72 (No. 121)
  • Mark Letestu 1.55 (No. 147)
  • Anton Lander 1.47 (No. 160)
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 1.38 (No. 180)
  • Zack Kassian 1.28 (No. 200)
  • Benoit Pouliot 1.11 (No. 242)
  • Milan Lucic 0.83 (No. 295 out of 365)

For the Art Ross Trophy winner to be hauling around the No. 295 scorer at 5×5/60 and win the scoring championship is impossible. I think one of two things happens: Lucic finds his way, or Maroon moves back on the 1line. The other alternatives on LW are Benoit Pouliot (hard to score from the dog house) and Drake Caggiula. Seriously.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun morning with crazy people, 10 on TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey. Playoffs? It is possible! Plus, is McLellan trolling the media?
  • Antony Bent, Soccer Insider. MLS playoffs and paint has to go in the right place.
  • Don Landry, CFL.ca. Grey Cup week is just about the most fun you can have in Canada without getting arrested. Don is on the beat.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter.

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  1. Ryan says:

    McDavid changes everything.

  2. geowal says:

    McDavid you cheeky bastard!

  3. OmJo says:

    StixMalone:
    10 years and I still haven’t won a Bulova watch or vacuum yet. Will I ever Safeway???

    When you go through the cashier next time, pay for everything individually and use your air miles each time. That’s the trick.

  4. Regretzky says:

    McVapourTrail!

  5. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    This just in. That McDavid guy is pretty good.

  6. LMHF#1 says:

    That’s what, his third bank shot attempt this game?

    Gretzky level stuff right there.

  7. Lucinius says:

    Hrm.

    That McDavid kid might be something special, eh?

  8. Gerta Rauss says:

    Let’s finish this off boys

  9. OilClog says:

    Mcdavid will not be denied games in may

  10. hags9k says:

    Rocketskates strikes again.

  11. striatic says:

    LMHF#1,

    He wanted that bank shot goal so bad, and wouldn’t be denied.

  12. vinotintazo says:

    Can McDavid cure Cancer?

  13. OmJo says:

    We want 10! We want 10!

  14. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Looch with 3 points now haha.

  15. Lloyd B. says:

    Listening to the game on the radio. Haven’t heard Slepyshevs name much if at all. Did he get hurt?

  16. fuzzy muppet says:

    Well thats a bad call

  17. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    My god…

  18. Pretendergast says:

    Lucic 3 points? I should call people out more often.

  19. Lowetide says:

    Leon Draisaitl scored.

  20. Gerta Rauss says:

    Well that was a terrible call by the ref that went our way

    A playoff team would score here

    *edit-woot

  21. OmJo says:

    Two things: Lucic has the luckiest positioning in the league and did the OIlers finally fire Woodcroft?

  22. Lucinius says:

    Need to score here and get some space.

    And yeah.. that’s a shit call. Probably see a make up call soon.

  23. LMHF#1 says:

    Also – what do we need to do to get Remenda out of there?

    Devil’s advocate announcers are lame.

  24. vinotintazo says:

    refs have been horrible… both ways…

  25. dangilitis says:

    2nd PPG with Iggy in the box – so now he’s a gift giver, now that he’s no longer in Flames silks….

  26. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Leon apparently just a 5v4 wizard

  27. Hockey Project says:

    It warms my heart to watch Connor McDavid play such a beautiful brand of hockey for this team that I’ve loved for so many years.

  28. Wolfie says:

    Dagger!!!!

  29. Gerta Rauss says:

    4 point night for Lucic lol

  30. Lowetide says:

    Milan Lucic now has four points. Holy hell Connor McDavid is going to put some wingers in the HHOF.

  31. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Very bad call, and could be the sealer. Feel for Avs fans

  32. CrazyCoach says:

    Oh my goodness!

    All the rest of you old farts are saying/thinking the same thing, “HAVEN’T SEEN ANYONE DO THAT SINCE GRETZKY!!!”

    I always felt sorry for my grandpa and my uncles, cause when Gretzky would do the unthinkable, they had no comparison!

    I’m lucky. I saw Gretzky and now I get to see McDavid!

  33. GMB3 says:

    Isn’t that 5 for looch?

  34. Wolfie says:

    Wow, this team is exciting. You could tell they came out for the third on their toes. McDavid with another level of speed! Ludicrous Speed!

  35. Regretzky says:

    I think we need more anti-Lucic dialog on here, seems like he is a reader.

  36. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    No… No feeling bad for other teams after the Decade

  37. GMB3 says:

    Nvm. I checked fantasy before the goal. Im streaming so I’m on a delay.

  38. Bank Shot says:

    OmJo:
    Two things: Lucic has the luckiest positioning in the league and did the OIlers finally fire Woodcroft?

    Thats the second goal in two games that Leon has scored after getting a rebound off Lucic’s skate.

  39. OmJo says:

    GMB3:
    Isn’t that 5 for looch?

    First goal was unassisted by Nuge.

  40. OilClog says:

    Colorado is not very good at team hockey

  41. Diablo says:

    Man can’t about the refs tonight … we’ve received a lot of favourable calls.

  42. JDï™ says:

    Lucinius:
    Hrm.

    That McDavid kid might be something special, eh?

    I don’t think he’s going back to junior if that’s what you mean.

  43. BeerMe says:

    Colorado is throwing the game

  44. GMB3 says:

    Wow. We shit talk the ref’s non stop and it’s like they heard. Or statistical regression for all those missed calls.

    Chirp the refs, chirp Lucic. What is going on

  45. dangilitis says:

    Pretendergast:
    Lucic 3 points? I should call people out more often.

    2 nights ago, I called out RNH, Eberle, and Lucic for the first 20 games, and apparently that was harsh to some. This is what the team needs if they want to win > lose

  46. OmJo says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Very bad call, and could be the sealer. Feel for Avs fans

    Yup, we’ve been in their shoes many times this season. Two poor calls (one a missed call on Larsson) that lead to two goals against.

  47. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Lowetide:
    Milan Lucic now has four points. Holy hell Connor McDavid is going to put some wingers in the HHOF.

    14P in 21 now which is probably as good or better than we should expect but just hasn’t looked great

    wish Pulju could have gotten a tap on the puck there for a point

  48. dangilitis says:

    I have been so used to games called against the Oilers that I feel guilty that they have so many PPs tonight. Seriously

  49. Lucinius says:

    GMB3:
    Wow. We shit talk the ref’s non stop and it’s like they heard. Or statistical regression for all those missed calls.

    Chirp the refs, chirp Lucic. What is going on

    I’ve said it before, but.. refs are just bad in the NHL. They don’t “hate” on certain teams, they are just bad at their job across the board. This is just us benefiting from it for once. It’s pathetic how bad the refs are. I’d take WWE refs over this; at least then you know they’d be following a script and would be consistent.

  50. GMB3 says:

    JDï™: I don’t think he’s going back to junior if that’s what you mean.

    Strong candidate to make the World Junior team though I heard

  51. OmJo says:

    Regretzky:
    I think we need more anti-Lucic dialog on here, seems like he is a reader.

    Connor McDavid has to be the most overrated player in the history of the world, bet he can’t get a hat trick tonight!

    Am I doing it right?

  52. BeerMe says:

    Why is the carbon monoxide ad spoken with such gusto? So inappropriate lol

  53. CrazyCoach says:

    Ok,

    As far as Lucic goes.

    I’m eating as much crow as Jim Carr did with Ned Braden!

  54. Wolfie says:

    I honestly can’t believe Edmonton’s fortunes. I mean Gretzky was the GOAT… Now McDavid who is absolutely ridiculous. He may never put up Gretzky type numbers but if the NHL commits to shrinking goalie gear and maybe do things to increase scoring… there’s a chance…

  55. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Glad you called some people out. Back when I had seasons tickets in 91and 92 in the expansion seats (11 and 12$ a ticket) Klima was my favorited player. Had the jersey. Still do. My friend Jason (who always brought a backpack of physics studying yet never brought it out) always slagged Klima. Without fail he would score. Eventually I would bait him into calling him out when we needed a goal.

    Good times. Not the team..

  56. Pretendergast says:

    I love playing the Oilers, games are exciting but you always bank 2 points cause they have no d.

    Wait a second, That’s the Avalanche!

    so this is what teams have felt all these years

  57. Lowetide says:

    CrazyCoach:
    Ok,

    As far as Lucic goes.

    I’m eating as much crow as Jim Carr did with Ned Braden!

    The truth is he hasn’t been good. I have watched his whole career and he is a brilliant passer. Seriously. But we haven’t seen him good yet, not even tonight.

  58. fuzzy muppet says:

    JDï™,

    Imagine when hes an actual grown man. Hes a boy and the best player(ok second) on the PLANET

  59. Zelepukin says:

    I missed the first 2 period and let me clarify something…

    After the first period the hate for Looch was at Jultz levels and now in the 3rd he has 4pts? Holy LOL.

  60. Regretzky says:

    OmJo: Connor McDavid has to be the most overrated player in the history of the world, bet he can’t get a hat trick tonight!

    Am I doing it right?

    I know what you are doing! (Waves finger)

  61. OmJo says:

    “Eberle looking for points” lol!

  62. fuzzy muppet says:

    Lowetide,

    Like you said, 97 is going to put wingers in the Hall

  63. dangilitis says:

    Lowetide:
    Milan Lucic now has four points. Holy hell Connor McDavid is going to put some wingers in the HHOF.

    Crosby: Scored 3 pts tonight with GWG.
    McDavid: 3 pts with the potential GWG. Your move…

  64. CrazyCoach says:

    Lowetide: The truth is he hasn’t been good. I have watched his whole career and he is a brilliant passer. Seriously. But we haven’t seen him good yet, not even tonight.

    Yup, and even a stats novice like me sees what we gave up to get him

  65. OmJo says:

    Lowetide: The truth is he hasn’t been good. I have watched his whole career and he is a brilliant passer. Seriously. But we haven’t seen him good yet, not even tonight.

    Right place at the right time, and Connor McDavid – who can probably stop time itself – explain his points tonight.

  66. Lloyd B. says:

    Wolfie:
    I honestly can’t believe Edmonton’s fortunes.I mean Gretzky was the GOAT…Now McDavid who is absolutely ridiculous.He may never put up Gretzky type numbers but if the NHL commits to shrinking goalie gear and maybe do things to increase scoring… there’s a chance…

    No chance. Ever.

  67. OmJo says:

    Regretzky: I know what you are doing! (Waves finger)

    Why, whatever do you mean?

  68. flyfish1168 says:

    Iginla looks old and slow. More penalties than points.

  69. OmJo says:

    10GF in the last two games.

    Not bad.

  70. LMHF#1 says:

    OmJo:
    10GF in the last two games.

    Not bad.

    15 in 3

  71. Zelepukin says:

    Trying to do everything possible not to break out properly on this PP.

  72. Regretzky says:

    OmJo: Why, whatever do you mean?

    2nd intermission;

    Jay Woodcroft: hey Looch, the local dudes on Lowetide sound a little pissed man!

    Looch: duh okay boss!

  73. JDï™ says:

    OmJo: 10GF in the last two games.

    15 in 3.

    Edit: okay, 17 in 4

  74. jm363561 says:

    Good afternoon from Manila. Quite a funny thread to read while allegedly working – 40 minutes and 31 seconds of Lucic abuse suddenly turns into near adulation. Avs limited to only 3 shots in third period. Some might say a play off team would do that.

  75. Lucinius says:

    Wait, holy shit.. we’re winning a game AND leading in shots?

  76. unca miltie says:

    Who is this team in white. What have they done with the Edmonton Oilers. Not that long ago, this lead would not have held. I am impressed.

  77. Lowetide says:

    JP don’t need no stinking cheap goals!!!

  78. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Drai’s pass was classy. Wish he was greedy.

  79. unca miltie says:

    Definitely attempt to give Sleppy a goal

  80. OmJo says:

    Regretzky: 2nd intermission;

    Jay Woodcroft: hey Looch, the local dudes on Lowetide sound a little pissed man!

    Looch: duh okay boss!

    This made me laugh way too much.

  81. Lucinius says:

    Two chances for an empty netter and they.. kinda play at it. Not good, even if it likely won’t matter. Bury that shit.

  82. Gerta Rauss says:

    Lucinius:
    Wait, holy shit.. we’re winning a game AND leading in shots?

    We should get the trifecta tonight…shots, corgis and the W

  83. Lowetide says:

    Eberle scored..

  84. OmJo says:

    JDï™: 15 in 3.

    Edit: okay, 17 in 4

    18 in 4.

  85. jm363561 says:

    16 goals in the last three games. How are the REs doing LT? Pretty reasonably you would think.

  86. dangilitis says:

    Suntory Hanzo:
    Drains pass was classy. Wish he was greedy.

    It may have been the better play if the shot came off quicker.
    Edit: Eberle deserved an EN after last game

  87. fuzzy muppet says:

    Well happy thanksgiving everybody. Sleep well and dream of 97

  88. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Ebs!!

  89. Lowetide says:

    Fun game, ladies and germs. Friday night, let’s rip apart Kassian. I would like to see him score!

  90. Lucinius says:

    There we go. Salt it. Good win, much needed with the way the out of town scoreboard is shaping up.

  91. OmJo says:

    I want to think this team is legit so badly.

  92. John Chambers says:

    Draisaitl and McDavid are probably the best 1-2 centre combo in the league and only one of them is legal to drink in the states, and only as of last month. Squeeeeee!!

  93. Regretzky says:

    Lowetide:
    Fun game, ladies and germs. Friday night, let’s rip apart Kassian. I would like to see him score!

    Duh okay boss!

  94. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Talbot with .893. I think we need to calm out tits and look at a glaring problem.

    Kidding. Had one of my students say calm your ** tits, and when I spoke to her outside the class/theatre she was saying ‘it’s not a big deal. Everyone says it.’

    I didn’t mention you LT. apologies.

  95. dangilitis says:

    Real test is taking at least 3/4 pts from Arizona in the next 2 games.
    This is an amazing feeling, what is it – pride?. Living in Calgary, I’ve forgotten how to gloat properly…

  96. OmJo says:

    Lowetide:
    Fun game, ladies and germs. Friday night, let’s rip apart Kassian. I would like to see him score!

    Gonna be at work for that one but I’ll go all out on my breaks. Um… I might get banned from here but I guarantee Kassian scores 8 goals in the game.

  97. striatic says:

    OmJo:
    I want to think this team is legit so badly.

    So long as McDavid is playing well and Talbot is adequate, this Oilers team has a shot at beating any given team on any given night.

    Big problems arise if McDavid is off, or worse, injured, but it is best not to think about that.

  98. hags9k says:

    Lucinius,

    Did you just mention the out of town scoreboard?!

    Love it! It’s been forever. Is this what fans in the first division do? We are so far North, nothing is familiar and I am confused nobody is mentioning the draft.

    LONG LIVE KING CONNOR!!!

  99. JDï™ says:

    Suntory Hanzo: outside the class/theatre

    Are you PVA in Calgary?

  100. LadiesloveSmid says:

    If the oil keep this up, I don’t think Pouliot will play until 2017

  101. Lucinius says:

    So, Canucks beat Coyotes, Sharks beat Hawks and Flames beat the Jackets. Needed this win with those results. Isles and Kings tied at 1 in the 3rd — hopefully the Isles can complete the come-back.

  102. OmJo says:

    Connor McDavid photobombing Lucic.

  103. striatic says:

    Lucinius:
    There we go. Salt it. Good win, much needed with the way the out of town scoreboard is shaping up.

    Go Isles!

  104. Lucinius says:

    hags9k,

    It feels odd, but so very good.

    Oilers are guaranteed to be playing meaningful hockey in December! Been awhile for that..

  105. Philosophil says:

    OmJo,

    McDavid is feeding Lucic his lines as well, can’t deliver those either

  106. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    John Chambers:
    Draisaitl and McDavid are probably the best 1-2 centre combo in the league and only one of them is legal to drink in the states, and only as of last month. Squeeeeee!!

    Crosby-Malkin > McDavid-Draisaitl

    Though I do put McDavid on the same tier as Sid and Geno, Draisaitl, as good as he is, is a notch or two below Malkin.

  107. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Oil with 82.78% HDCF tonight Score and venue adjusted. xGF was 2.50-0.69 at 5v5 in favour of EDM

    Think they deserved this one

  108. Suntory Hanzo says:

    JDï™,

    Nope. Teach in Abbotsford BC. Former home of the Calgary Heat. Hate Calgary, but miss the team being here. Especially the dollar dog and 2 dollar beer nights.

  109. Kris11 says:

    The sentence “Our team is better than your team” is now sometimes true after, IIRC, 197 years. I mean, not the best. But not dead last.

    Oilers doing ok. Trump is president. Hell has frozen over!

  110. --hudson-- says:

    Here’s that almost tapin for McDavid in the first.
    https://streamable.com/6qn1

  111. russ99 says:

    That was beautiful, we completely rolled them in the third after that disappointing third goal against.

    McCurdy’s theory of Lucic progression may be on to something. And he’s not at full throttle yet either.

    Glad he’s producing with McDavid, I still think that line is his optimal spot.

  112. GMB3 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Crosby-Malkin > McDavid-Draisaitl

    Though I do put McDavid on the same tier as Sid and Geno, Draisaitl, as good as he is, is a notch or two below Malkin.

    Agreed but 1-2-3 with McD RNH and Drai is probably the best, most promising group of C’s in the league. Just my humble opinion though

  113. frjohnk says:

    Maybe too early to start talking the P word but I’m thinking we are gonna be buyers this trade deadline.
    Nice win

  114. russ99 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Crosby-Malkin > McDavid-Draisaitl

    Though I do put McDavid on the same tier as Sid and Geno, Draisaitl, as good as he is, is a notch or two below Malkin.

    McDavid is 19! !! !!!! And Driasaitl is 21, give them a few years.

  115. Lucinius says:

    Wow. Isles melt down; Kings score 3 in the span of 44 seconds.

  116. who says:

    4 points or not Lucic should probably be in the press box right now based on merit. But we all know that is not going to happen. Hope he turns it around.
    If they are going to keep Caggulia with the big club I would like to see him on the wing with one of the three centers. Give that offense a chance to shine. Question for those of you who were desperate to see a veteran winger signed. Who would Versteeg, etc. beat out in our top nine? Seems to me we have decent depth on the wings right now. Can’t even find enough ice time for them all.

  117. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    GMB3: John Chambers:
    Draisaitl and McDavid are probably the best 1-2 centre combo in the league

    I am with you there, but the comment was not about the best 3 (and I agree with you on that count):

    John Chambers:
    Draisaitl and McDavid are probably the best 1-2 centre combo in the league…

  118. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    russ99: McDavid is 19! !! !!!! And Driasaitl is 21, give them a few years.

    Yes, but again the comment was a bit different. Nonetheless, after a decade of wandering the desert I should stop being a curmudgeon and let everyone enjoy a few wins without raining on the parade.

    John Chambers:
    Draisaitl and McDavid are probably the best 1-2 centre combo in the league…

  119. JDï™ says:

    Lucinius: Wow. Isles melt down

    NYI going to have to do something. Trade or firing, but I think it will be the latter.

  120. commonfan14 says:

    JDï™: NYI going to have to do something. Trade or firing, but I think it will be the latter.

    Perhaps the rare double-firing?

  121. JDï™ says:

    commonfan14,

    We should hope that they start sending useful players out of town. Just not into the pacific division back yard.

  122. Bos8 says:

    Still chuckling on that Benning hit. Hello McKinnon, Hello!

  123. Professor Q says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: In the immortal words of my peewee coach he’s “skating like he’s got a piano tied to his ass”.

    Wouldn’t most key players?

  124. Mustard Tiger says:

    I heard both Lucic and Draisaitl coughing during their post game interviews, hope that there isn’t a team sickness going around

  125. Zelepukin says:

    These last 3 games, the point of puck possession by McD on the breakout has been a huge shift. If he breaks out with the puck anywhere near our blue line, the opposition is royally screwed. It’s literally a guaranteed dangerous scoring opportunity every time. It reminds me of Oveckin his first couple seasons and before that, Pavel Bure.

  126. Mustard Tiger says:

    Professor Q: Wouldn’t most key players?

    nice

  127. dangilitis says:

    Mustard Tiger:
    I heard both Lucic and Draisaitl coughing during their post game interviews, hope that there isn’t a team sickness going around

    The Oilers have a fever… and the only cure is more Connor!

  128. BONE207 says:

    Getting into a track meet on the road against the Avalanche is no bueno.

    If you ask me…that was mucho bueno. Fun game.

    Canucks beat up the Coyotes. I think the next 2 games should be in the 25 expected wins this season if this team is who we/they think they are. (I’m still having trouble this is all true)

  129. Professor Q says:

    That Benning hit was a bit suspect though, and awkward. Hits him in the jaw with a chicken wing?

  130. John Chambers says:

    For those of you keeping score at home Kris Russell posted s team best +2 this evening.

  131. Ice Sage says:

    Bos8:
    Still chuckling on that Benning hit.Hello McKinnon, Hello!

    That was the turning point in my ‘new legit Oilers’ narrative. McKinnon > McDavid was the theme until then. No quiet room? Stupid NHL.

  132. delooper says:

    John Chambers:
    Draisaitl and McDavid are probably the best 1-2 centre combo in the league and only one of them is legal to drink in the states, and only as of last month. Squeeeeee!!

    It’s been a while since this forum has heard a squee!

  133. kinger_OIL says:

    Centre of attention: Its effort. He’s lazy taking that pass, fires it wide, coasts all the way back to his zone, hovers high, gets the puck with little pressure and fires a hopeless icing.

    He needs to wake up.

    – you guys are crazy…

  134. kinger_OIL says:

    – I also like Nurse: least used D: low event: 60 more games on 3rd pairing like this please

  135. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    John Chambers:
    Draisaitl and McDavid are probably the best 1-2 centre combo in the league and only one of them is legal to drink in the states, and only as of last month. Squeeeeee!!

    You are basically arguing that Draisaitl today is better than Malkin today.

    Nope.

  136. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Couple of Thoughts (and may repost to the morning entry so consider yourself warned)

    1) Connor McDavid… Seriously Connor Mc-Freakin-David. Crosby is still the better player but in a month or so I think we”ll be able to say Connor “takes over a game” more quickly than Crosby, my goodness what an amazing player this kid is squeeeeeeeeee!

    2) 3rd game in a row where the 3rd period was locked down tighter than San Quentin, the zone coverage is noticeable in a good way. Now score effects are in play but if you look at G’s site and see the scripts this strategy of pushing everything to the outside is starting to pay off big time, especially against teams that are smaller. As we watch Klef, Nurse, Benning and to an extent Larsson mature and settle in this defense will become stifling. Still need so reminders to keep their heads on a swivel but very very good arrows late in games.

    3) I know CmD is the greatest but last night the Nuge-Eberle-Maroon line speed bagged the Avalanche, and Eberle had at three Captain Connor level passes but alas both Nuge and Maroon were snakebit. That being said this line is really starting to kick out the jams now and Maroon will be the next one that gets the monkey off his back (and its a big sucker too you can see and hear it everytime Maroon misses a chance or doesn’t score). Too me this is the single most important development of the entire season. Connor is Connor, and the expectation is that Drai is Drai. What we are forgetting is how consistent and good Nuge-Eberle have been for the last 5 seasons and are now finally rounding into their prime years. If this line can get to a 60-60-40 total point clip the Oilers will be steamrolling other teams (maybe not the best of the best but definitely everything less).

    4) I think Pouliot will draw in next game. I didn’t see Hendricks too good and thought Sleppy was a tad off. I also think the coach needs to bolster that 3rd line a bit more. Kassian is sooooo close to potting one but I think you need a better offensive option on Drai’s LW. There’s a number of ways TMac could swing these guys back in but Sleppy down to 4th line, Hendricks out, Poo in seems like the most obvious (I could also see Cagguila heading down and Letestu drawing in but that seems less likely). The Oilers have had trouble getting up for games against Arizona if Poo is mentally there (and I have no reason to think he isn’t) I think giving him a chance to reestablish himself against the Yotes is a good idea especially now that Drai is starting to feel in offensively.

    5) So it seems that all of the Oilers read this blog. Seriously every guy we’ve been slagging/doubting the last few days lit it up tonight (including Russell who was a beauty by the fancies tonight).

    6) Special teams are a revolving door right now. Other than that top PP line it seems like everyone will get a crack at the can. This is a very good thing in my mind as long as guys aren’t playing too high up the batting order. It allows you to keep everyone in the game if you get stuck in penalty trouble. I don’t think this will be the case against every team but against some I really like the idea.

    7) American Thanksgiving and the Oilers are 1st in the Pacific and Connor McDavid is going supernova lighting the world on fire behind him. I know exactly what I’m thankful for these days 🙂

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