HOW BLUE CAN YOU GET?

Here’s what we are not going to do: Bitch about January. The Oilers lost to the Minnesota Wild last night, and there is no way that game is ever going to come back. For this we are thankful. We are on to Vince Gill and Amy Grant’s house.

WILD THING, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0, goal differential -7
  • Oilers in October 2016: 7-2-0, goal differential +10
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2, goal differential -6
  • Oilers in November 2016: 5-8-2 goal differential -3
  • Oilers in December 2015: 7-6-1, goal differential -9
  • Oilers in December 2016: 7-2-5, goal differential +3
  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-5-2, goal differential -5
  • Oilers in January 2017: 9-4-1, goal differential +8
  • Oilers after 52, 2015-16: 21-26-5, goal differential -18
  • Oilers after 52, 2016-17: 28-16-8, goal differential +18

January is in the books, and it was a helluva month for the Edmonton Oilers. A year previous, the club gathered only 10 points in 11 games, and were outscored by five goals. This past month? Edmonton grabbed 19 points in 14 games, and put themselves in a brilliant position to grab a playoff spot for the first time since the spring of 2006.

WHAT WE EXPECTED FROM JANUARY

  • On the road to: Columbus, Boston, New Jersey, Ottawa (Expected: 2-1-1) (Actual: 2-2-0)
  • At home to: San Jose, New Jersey, Calgary, Arizona, Florida, Nashville (Expected Result: 3-1-2) (Actual: 4-1-1)
  • On the road to: Calgary, Anaheim, San Jose (Expected Result: 2-1-0) (Actual: 3-0-0)
  • At home to: Minnesota (Expected Result: 0-1-0) (Actual: 0-1-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-4-3, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current Results: 9-4-1, 19 points in 14 games

If the Oilers make the playoffs, and we are not there yet despite the fact one of you emails me almost daily telling me to stop being so stubborn, January will get a great big assist. Well done, you Oilers.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: Nashville, Carolina, Montreal (Expected: 1-1-1)
  • At home to: Chicago, Arizona, Philadelphia (Expected: 1-1-1)
  • On the road to: Chicago, Tampa Bay, Florida, Washington, Nashville, St. Louis (2-3-1)
  • Overall expected result: 4-5-3, 11 points in 12 games

I think the Oilers will make the playoffs if the club can match the record I have posted here. It would mean reaching the trade deadline at 64gp, 32-21-11, 75 points. This is a big month to come, and this playoff spot is not yet secure. Don’t let anyone tell you different.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Davidson—Benning went 17-6 together. That is very good no matter who is on the ice representing the opposition. The pairing went 8-8 in almost six minutes against the Parise—Haula—Pominville trio, and 4-0 against Niederreiter—Eric Staal—Charlie Coyle. Also went 3-0 against Zucker—Koivu—Granlund.
  • I believe Benning should be playing with Sekera, but if that isn’t possible, it is nice to see this pairing getting more time as Davidson comes back from injury and finds his way. On a night where it was easy to find the negative, I was encouraged by this pairing.
  • Klefbom—Larsson went 28-16 in 18:01 together, and there were countless examples of Larsson playing well defensively. My goodness he interrupted passes in the slot area, hammered opponents and he scored a rare goal, too. Klefbom skated the puck well (although he turned over possession at the blue line on the PP). A strong pairing. Went 12-6 against Parise line, 9-4 against Coyle line.
  • Sekera—Russell had a poor night in actual scoring events, and that has not been the case on the scoreboard much of this season. Went 20-26 in 16:12 together, including a disastrous 1-12 with the Caggiula line (a line McLellan dissolved, with reason). Went 15-7 against Granlund, an impressive number.
  • Kris Russell had a very difficult night. Minus 4 is a nasty bit of business. I think Russell has played in some good luck this year, but has also been able to (until recently) defend pretty well. I am not on the sign Russell for three years train, but am also not going to yell at you for thinking he can play a support role. We will run into disagreement if you are suggesting he is a top pairing match with Sekera. I believe Sekera—Benning is already superior, and that will only increase over time, lord willing.
  • Cam Talbot and Laurent Brossoit did not steal any period, let alone the game. LBs effort on the two-on-one does not inspire confidence. We all expect he will get at least a couple of starts during February, it will be interesting to see what happens if Edmonton loses Thursday night.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Connor McDavid went 25-10 with Leon Draisaitl, 7-7 with Patrick Maroon, 10-2 with Benoit Pouliot and 9-1 with Milan Lucic. I think Leon with 97 is probably written in stone for the rest of the season, but it was nice to see Benoit Pouliot finally get a chance on the big line. I really wish he had scored. Anyway, the captain was shutout last night but that was more luck than anything, and he went 14-4 against Zucker—Koivu—Granlund.
  • Benoit Pouliot is playing better now, but he isn’t cashing goals. It will be very interesting to see his usage this month. More in a minute.
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins went 20-13 with Jordan Eberle, 14-9 with Benoit Pouliot and 10-9 with Patrick Maroon. Like McDavid, I thought Nuge should have had a goal last night, he certainly earned it. Nuge went 6-5 against Parise—Haula—Pominville, 9-8 against Zucker—Koivu—Granlund.
  • Eberle got some good looks and was maybe a little unlucky last night. I think we can suggest he and 93 are hitting line drives now, sooner or later they will fall in. This road trip might be a good thing.
  • Drake Caggiula went 7-16 with Milan Lucic and 7-13 with Anton Slepyshev, 7-7 with Zack Kassian. Todd McLellan broke the line up, I thought Lucic was a day late on the first goal. The two rookies showed well in spurts, and I thought Anton Slepyshev was Edmonton’s best forward. He is really coming into his own. Went 6-11 against the Haula line.
  • I wonder if the Oilers would ever consider a Pouliot—Lander—Slepyshev trio?
  • Mark Letestu went 7-1 with Anton Slepyshev, 5-5 with Matt Hendricks, 3-0 with Milan Lucic and 1-4 with Zack Kassian. That is a blender! I think the 4line had a pretty good night, especially when Slepyshev was in the group.
  • Sources are NHL.com, NaturalStatTrick and HockeyStats.ca.

MAD AS HELL

I have communicated with some of you for over a decade, incredible as it seems. Although we may not have met in person, or had a beer together, I think of you as friends. That is the beauty of the internet, and believe me it is better than reading The Hockey News and then riding your bike around Maidstone thinking about the Bruins goalie situation without input. Call and response, back and forth.

Last night, apparently, there was a big blowout on twitter. I didn’t see it, mostly because the bulk of my evening was spent watching the Oilers game and playing with Ziggy. Based on a couple of emails/dms from friends, it was time well wasted on my part.

I think two things are in play here. First up: Male ego. We might as well talk about it, since it is the elephant in the room. For some reason, we have reached a point among Oilers fans online where several hundred people are better equipped to manage the team than the actual general manager. Now, since none of us is the general manager, the real business of online gamesmanship is taking a stand and defending it until time eternal.

Which gets us into trouble. Kris Russell, poor man, has his fans and his detractors. If I say the following:

  • Kris Russell is a veteran defender. Pretty good at puck retrieval, he cannot pass well at all, but he has been good at GA/60. That is a stat in which luck can have a major impact, and he hasn’t shown an ability to do this consistently. I worship at the feet of Corsi, and Corsi tells me he is a third pairing NHL D.

Some of you will agree, others will not. The thing is, we can have a chat about it here, because if you become abusive I will time you out. On twitter, or wherever, that option isn’t as available, so we end up talking past each other and the conversation often ends up in abusive language and hard feelings.

Why? Because we have our online reputations to protect! Male ego! Let me ask you a question: How many women do you follow on twitter who are Oilers fans? Do you believe those fans have as much knowledge as you do? Are the women you follow on twitter able to comment on the game intelligently? When pressed by you, are these women likely to call you a dog-faced boy? The answer is no, partly because women are so used to men running their mouths they understand it is a lost cause. They have tuned you out, same as the guys who have tired of rage in the cage keyboard soldiers.

This morning, you can read my take on Benoit Pouliot (below) and you can read David Staples take on him over at Cult of Hockey. These takes are entirely different, because David and I view the game differently. I have found it beneficial to stay away from CofH until my morning blog is written because it is important to offer a fresh view that has not been influenced (what you will read below was written last night). I am not going to piss on David’s take, and he isn’t going to piss on mine. Why? Because we view the game differently, and have each of us (without actually talking to each other about it) concluded that our views have merit and are worthy of your consideration. This is not a battle for souls, this is an adult discussion about a game. No one is going to die from this. Promise. You can read both takes, make your own decision, and proceed accordingly.

We can view a differing opinion as a challenge, but I would encourage you to view is as another angle, another photo of the same event. Today, you and I will encounter dozens of women and men who know as much or more about the game of hockey as we do, that is life in Canada. We don’t own wisdom about our game, it is in every Tim Hortons and desk at work because this is us. Everyone who knows hockey knows hockey. If you are arguing with people on the internet, probably a good idea to sit back and review. Chances are their knowledge of the game matches yours, and they simply have a different view of the photo presented to each of you.

Twitter’s motto should be check your ego at the door. I suspect we would all be happier if we respected each other a whole helluva lot more than we do today. If you got mad last night on twitter, and are pissed off at someone this morning, that is entirely on you. Perhaps this is a day to stay off twitter, and think about that fact. Every moment spent being riled out about some fool on the internet means there are two more fools on planet earth. Surely you know this to be true.

SHOWCASE

I think the Oilers may be showcasing Benoit Pouliot. Now, we will have to see more of it, but in the last while his regular center has been the Nuge. Last night, BP got some McDavid time, and that is the greatest mixture on the planet at this time.

Benoit Pouliot, when is on, can be a bull in a china shop. Rushing passes by defenders, turning pucks over, creating offense on those turnovers, and generally being a fly in the ointment for opponents. Per 82gp in his NHL career, Benoit Pouliot is 18-19-37—and that has real value in today’s NHL. Pouliot is shooting (attempted shots) far less this season:

  • 2013-14: 2.79 shot attempts per game
  • 2014-15: 3.00 shot attempts per game
  • 2015-16: 3.16 shot attempts per game
  • 2016-17: 2.15 shot attempts per game
  • Source

Last night, playing with McDavid and Nuge, he had one shot and two attempted/blocked shots, counting three. I believe February may see a push for Pouliot, in an attempt to showcase him and find a market for him. Note: I am not suggesting he should be traded, in fact my guess is that this push gets him back in the good books. Whatever gets him some time with McDavid is fine by me, the Oilers need to unlock his offense and get Pouliot back to three shot attempts per game. His overall contributions to games has been improving for the last month or so to my eye. I do think this is a showcase.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey. Bruce and I spend our Wednesdays talking about other days of the week. The Oilers performances this season on Tuesday evenings have driven Mr. McCurdy to distraction. Literally!
  • Steve Kournianos, The Draft Analyst. We will talk about the Top Prospects Game, as well as players who have emerged as legit first-round options during the year.
  • Jeff Hauser on the NFL. We will chat Super Bowl and what the hell is happening in Las Vegas?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide twitter. See you on the radio!

 

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156 Responses to "HOW BLUE CAN YOU GET?"

  1. DBO says:

    Great post LT. Agree to disagree, not F@#$ You, you suck is a better way. Intelligent discourse, not discord people. What kills me is that most of us actually believe that if we just make our argument again, we will actually convince people they are wrong and we are right. As you said, EGO. Kills me.

    On to the Oil. Missed game, seems like thats a good thing.

    I wonder if the Oilers would ever consider a Pouliot—Lander—Slepyshev trio? Yes please. And move Caggulia to 4 LW if needed to add speed down there. Better balance and more responsible centre is so needed right now. I like Caggulia, but as a Cogliano.

  2. Primetime says:

    I’m with you LT, and would keep Pouliot…

    However, apparently Anaheim was in the building last night scouting him. Rumor last year was they were as well before he got hurt.

    Would you be interested in Pou for Vatanen? Both are struggling by box cars and Anaheim has replacements on D…

    Would that benefit both teams? Our one area of strength (LW) would be depleted but would shore up the difficult RHD situation….

  3. Whatif says:

    It is, as always, a real pleasure to listen to a voice of reason on this site. Totally agree with your take on ‘egos’ and the unnecessary acrimony which discussions give rise to. It seems that we all consider ourselves to be “Legends in our own minds”.

  4. Scungilli says:

    Peace has real value, nicely done sir.

    I am not happy about last night, but overall very happy that there is hope back in the picture. I find that until I see positive moves being made there is still trepidation. Poorly taken decisions could hamper what could be something great.

    There are things happening on the ice that don’t make sense, and of course we don’t know much about the full picture. I am not in for giving up much future for now because I don’t think they are ready to win. Playoff experience would be nice to move the dial forward for the team and individual experience.

    Unless it is a long term move that benefits the future. With a few high end additions I think they could contend this year if healthy. But the players that might be involved in that are so often on teams still in the hunt it’s probably a summer thing, and the expansion draft throws a lot of uncertainty into things until it happens.

    If at the start of next season the balance pic comes out I will relax and take a loss straight up, and not as a sign of the other shoe heading down.

  5. Jeff Chapman says:

    if the ducks are in on pouliot, you’ve got to think that chia pulls a move as soon as his beeper goes off

  6. mit167 says:

    I was at the game last night and yeah we lost but for some reason I really wasn’t overly concerned about the loss. We had an off game but we never raised the white flag. On a different note I did get chosen for the Coventry homes contest in the 2nd period and won a signed Larsson stick and a signed Talbot puck. Winning was nice but being recognized on the LRT ride home as the guy on the big screen and then getting a standing ovation from the train was priceless. Amazing fans and city. And it only took 5 minutes or so for my cheeks to go back to there normal color. Wiping my smile away took a little longer. About redwater when the car broke down but that’s a different story.

  7. wheatnoil says:

    Well said LT.

    I do think, generally speaking, us males spend far less time figuratively looking at ourselves in the mirror and it might serve us well to do it more.

    Given how infrequently I shave when I probably should, I could probably do it more often literally as well, but that’s another matter.

  8. Professor Q says:

    Ken Hitchcock out in St. Louis; good time to expect some other movement?

  9. Professor Q says:

    wheatnoil,

    Narcissus was a man…

  10. sliderule says:

    The wild owned the oilers slot.
    End of rant

  11. npanciroli says:

    Great post LT.

    I have a love hate relationship on Twitter. Currently only follow the Oilers so I still get up to date information. I previously followed everyone I could but found the vitriol too much from certain people (I stand by Yost being the worst). I tried to find a balance and follow people I thought were respectful and reasonable in their discussions but found other people would still pop up and find their way into discussions.

    Primetime:
    I’m with you LT, and would keep Pouliot…

    However, apparently Anaheim was in the building last night scouting him.Rumor last year was they were as well before he got hurt.

    Would you be interested in Pou for Vatanen?Both are struggling by box cars and Anaheim has replacements on D…

    Would that benefit both teams?Our one area of strength (LW) would be depleted but would shore up the difficult RHD situation….

    This trade would be amazing. It forces 4-4-1 in expansion but who cares at that point.

    Maroon McDavid Draisaitl
    Lucic RNH Eberle
    Pouliot Lander Slepyshev
    Cagguila Letestu Kassian

    May as well give this a shot.

  12. wheatnoil says:

    Professor Q:
    wheatnoil,

    Narcissus was a man…

    Shhhh… I’m busy admiring this nice pool of water.

  13. HiddenDarts says:

    Can’t believe there was such a freakout during the game last night. For me, it was classic “one team getting all the bounces”-hockey. Easy to tune out and not have a fit. There will be other games.

    The Slep/Lucic/Caggiula has the appearance of being offensively dangerous, while actually being extremely dangerous defensively. Let’s face it — Lucic has never been known as a defensive stalwart. Having two rookies on his line looks to be a pretty bad idea.

    Not sure how to mix it up in order to remedy this, but I suspect this is why we’re still looking for the Pisani.

  14. HiddenDarts says:

    mit167,

    Great story! Sorry to hear about the breakdown!

  15. Jethro Tull says:

    I have posted this before, in the pre-season.

    Tire-pumping doesn’t and shouldn’t exist anymore. The analytics we have now, whilst not perfect, expose who can help you and who is a Steinway filled with concrete tied to your arse.. If you are a GM and you are basing your trade from 10 or so games with the best player in the league, you should have all sharp objects removed from your office and bubblewrap everywhere and some really good Disney colouring books until nap time. We expect Chia to have done his homework, yet our expectations of the other 29 GMs are that they are all gullible buffoons who would take a flawed player for one that isn’t.

    Benny is between a rock and a hard place and only he can get himself out. No doubt he’s a quality NHL vet, but he absolutely doesn’t do himself any favours. I’m rooting for him, I feel he could be good in the playoffs. He’s NOT our Pisani, as Pisani would never counsel 200ft penalties at inopportune times to our youngsters.

    I get that LT likes Fayne and Pouliot, I do too. I want them to be good. The better they are, the better the team is. But you have to look at a player sometimes and say “what do you bring to the party?” And this look gets particularly uncomfortable just before a trade deadline when you’re in a scoring slump and it looks like the team will make the playoffs for the first time in a decade.

  16. rmcdougle181 says:

    Primetime,

    I personally wouldn’t make that trade only because it would mean the oilers would have to go 4-4-1 for expansion. Any other year you have to make that deal. Maybe the oilers could pry Montour out of there instead?

  17. Lloyd B. says:

    LT. yesterday when I saw Yamamoto? listed at 5.07 my brain took that to be .07 of an inch versus 7 inches. Brain cramp of the first order. I should be better today as I’ve had a couple of coffees already.

  18. Jethro Tull says:

    wheatnoil: I do think, generally speaking, us males spend far less time figuratively looking at ourselves in the mirror and it might serve us well to do it more.

    Social media doesn’t seem confined to pigeon holes like gender. You are just as likely to be trolled by a 21yo female college student on the honor roll as you are by a stereotypical 35yo white male with no social grace.

    You can get shouted down by anyone these days.

  19. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Lloyd B.:
    LT.yesterday when I saw Yamamoto? listed at 5.07 my brain took that to be .07 of an inch versus 7 inches.Brain cramp of the first order.I should be better today as I’ve had a couple of coffees already.

    I hate to tell you this, but if you thought 5.07 was .07 of an inch, then he would be 5.07 inches tall. I think you meant that your brain took that to be .07 of a foot (0.84 of an inch), as in 5.07 feet.

    Grab more coffee!! 😉

    Edit- the 6.02 to indicate six feet, two inches is flawed from the start. Decimalization indicates consistent units. They should just stop doing that and use 6’2″ if they choose to abbreviate.

  20. John Chambers says:

    What do folks think the Duchesne to Nashville exchange looks like?

    Ekholm, Fiala, and a first?

  21. hags9k says:

    The stats show that everybody was getting along better when LT was consistently posting ScarJo photos.

    I cannot stand watching games vs the Wild. They check the fun right out of hockey. We need to move on quickly and get a win. We can’t have a stumble start to the post all-star break.

    Big game tomorrow.

  22. wheatnoil says:

    Jethro Tull: Social media doesn’t seem confined to pigeon holes like gender.You are just as likely to be trolled by a 21yo female college student on the honor roll as you are by a stereotypical 35yo white male with no social grace.

    You can get shouted down by anyone these days.

    Though I agree you can be trolled by anyone, I do think the different experiences of men and women on social media would indicate that there’s a gender difference there. Also, male ego has been a problem since well before Twitter. It’s just now men have a platform to yell at anyone as often as they want in short sentences.

  23. GloryDaysOfStortini says:

    Hey Lowetide, never commented before, but I read your blog every morning before class, thanks for the interesting POV every morning!

  24. dustrock says:

    The Wild are a team that the Oilers are always going to have trouble beating. They are fast and have an aggressive forecheck. Especially for players like Russell, it is going to be difficult.

    I expect the Wild to have our number going forward, just based on roster composition and systems.

    I also expected a loss when the Oilers were running full steam and then had to stop for the All-Star Lame break.

    If you missed the meltdown on Twitter, good for you. The short story is that guys like Matt Henderson (Hockeybuzz, @Archaeologuy on twitter) have been very vocal about how Russell is really really bad, don’t resign him. He was also vocal (and hasn’t really stopped) about the Hall for Larsson trade.

    He is a fairly well-known Oilers blogger and twitter commentator, and I think people just get sick of what they see as negativity. Criticism isn’t allowed apparently?

    At any rate, part of the problem is that Matt started firing back at the “trolls”, and felt vindicated because Russell happened to have a horrendous performance.

    It was Internet Meltdown 101, a good introduction into why we stay away from Twitter. 🙂

  25. dustrock says:

    LT – regarding you and Cult of Hockey, I do the same thing, I typically read this blog and then go over to CoH.

    It’ s always interesting to see the different takes. I think you and Staples saw the D almost exactly the same,

    He thought RNH was playing too much of a perimeter game on offence, and he thought Pouliot had a terrible game, whereas you and some others thought he had been playing well.

    I still wonder about Caggiula and Hendricks, and how we can maybe find ways to get them off the roster.

  26. oilfan9911 says:

    Jethro Tull:
    I have posted this before, in the pre-season.

    Tire-pumping doesn’t and shouldn’t exist anymore.The analytics we have now, whilst not perfect, expose who can help you and who is a Steinway filled with concrete tied to your arse..If you are a GM and you are basing your trade from 10 or so games with the best player in the league, you should have all sharp objects removed from your office and bubblewrap everywhere and some really good Disney colouring books until nap time.We expect Chia to have done his homework, yet our expectations of the other 29 GMs are that they are all gullible buffoons who would take a flawed player for one that isn’t.

    I would suggest that the idea isn’t to try and trick a GM into taking a guy because he puts up points with a top line player. Rather, it’s demonstrate that a player can move up in the lineup and play with skill and not be a dead weight. Consider the case of Patrick Maroon: he spent a decent chunk of time playing with Getzlaf in Anaheim and enjoyed some success but certainly no one thought he was driving the bus. However, he showed that while he isn’t a strong enough player to anchor a line on his own he does have the ability to play top line minutes and positively contribute making him an attractive player.

  27. Bruce Wayne says:

    John Chambers:
    What do folks think the Duchesne to Nashville exchange looks like?

    Ekholm, Fiala, and a first?

    The very idea of this trade makes me nauseous.

    If that actually happens it will be interesting to see what lengths the masses will go to twist their brains in knots to defend Chiarelli’s gross incompetence this time.

  28. DocFan says:

    LT – Thank you for being the voice or reason. It’s often a thankless job. Seems like our society in general these days – it’s easier to tell someone off out of anger, than to take a breath and choose a less inflammatory path. I just hope people read your words and not glaze over them.

  29. Roughneck says:

    I get a certain amount of clarity from some very simple perspective.

    When angry, it is rather elementary to establish who or what your are mad at, where one may find some guidance comes from pondering who you are mad for.

  30. Ducey says:

    Hitch fired. Jim Corsi (the goalie coach) fired.

    There is a bad joke somewhere about fancy stats

    And,

    I am not smart, but I am smart enough never to go on twitter. People say stuff they would never say in person for fear of looking like a jerk or getting their teeth kicked in.

  31. Primetime says:

    rmcdougle181:
    Primetime,

    I personally wouldn’t make that trade only because it would mean the oilers would have to go 4-4-1 for expansion. Any other year you have to make that deal. Maybe the oilers could pry Montour out of there instead?

    I agree we would have to go 4-4-1 which is what makes the trade interesting. I don’t believe Montour has to be protected and that would be exactly why Anaheim may consider this trade: replace Vatanen with someone who doesn’t have to be protected.

    Likely means we lose one of Maroon or Davidson

  32. Pescador says:

    Professor Q:
    wheatnoil,

    Narcissus was a man…

    And what a man he was

  33. Woogie63 says:

    Last night, I began to compare Stewart and Pouilot;

    Both bigger men
    Both can forecheck
    Both can Cycle
    Both have played on lots of teams
    Given the talent, why haven’t they found a permanent team

    Stewart plays on the Wild’s fourth line; Pouilot plays on our second line

  34. Lloyd B. says:

    NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker": I hate to tell you this, but if you thought 5.07 was .07 of an inch, then he would be 5.07 inches tall. I think you meant that your brain took that to be .07 of a foot (0.84 of an inch), as in 5.07 feet.

    Grab more coffee!!

    Edit- the 6.02 to indicate six feet, two inches is flawed from the start. Decimalization indicates consistent units. They should just stop doing that and use 6’2″ if they choose to abbreviate.

    And that is why I leave the math stuff on this site to those that can. 🙂

  35. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Primetime:

    Likely means we lose one of Maroon or Davidson

    And if we go 7-3-1 we will lose Davidson (or Reinhart).

    We are going to lose someone it will hurt to lose in every scenario. All teams will. We seem to spend a lot of energy worrying about an inevitable loss.

  36. Bag of Pucks says:

    Jeselnik’s take is one of the best I’ve seen on the value of Twitter.

    https://youtu.be/kqhcVgsUkmg

    The promise of a medium like this is that it’s supposed to facilitate more egalitarian and open discourse that crosses cultural and societal divides.

    The reality is, more often than not, it falls prey to the lowest common denominator facilitated by a groupthink/cyber bully mindset that is reminiscent of junior high school rules of engagement.

    The root cause is anonymity. It frees people to express themselves in ways they never would in face to face discussion. For some, that can be a very bad thing unfortunately.

    As I get older, decorum/class is definitely one of those things I find myself assigning a high degree of admiration towards. Possibly because it’s a character trait that seems so diminished these days.

  37. Pechetr says:

    Never have been and never will be on Twitter. Social media is the downfall of mankind. No accountability or responsibility required.

  38. PhrankLee says:

    NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker": Decimalization indicates consistent units. They should just stop doing that and use 6’2″ if they choose to abbreviate.

    Hear hear!

  39. Bruce Wayne says:

    dustrock:
    The Wild are a team that the Oilers are always going to have trouble beating.They are fast and have an aggressive forecheck.Especially for players like Russell, it is going to be difficult.

    I expect the Wild to have our number going forward, just based on roster composition and systems.

    I also expected a loss when the Oilers were running full steam and then had to stop for the All-Star Lame break.

    If you missed the meltdown on Twitter, good for you.The short story is that guys like Matt Henderson (Hockeybuzz, @Archaeologuy on twitter) have been very vocal about how Russell is really really bad, don’t resign him.He was also vocal (and hasn’t really stopped) about the Hall for Larsson trade.

    He is a fairly well-known Oilers blogger and twitter commentator, and I think people just get sick of what they see as negativity.Criticism isn’t allowed apparently?

    At any rate, part of the problem is that Matt started firing back at the “trolls”, and felt vindicated because Russell happened to have a horrendous performance.

    It was Internet Meltdown 101, a good introduction into why we stay away from Twitter.

    I can imagine this is what happened. While LT is certainly right about egos, in this particular case one side of the debate consists of people who parade their ignorance as a virtue. You can’t have a rational conversation with these people, and because they aren’t capable of reason there is no basis of agreeing to disagree. You can fight them or you can ignore them, but you can never find common ground with them. And this, here, is the problem. It isn’t about male egos, it is that being a fan consists of finding common ground with your fellow fans, and we have reached a point where being a fan of the Oilers is no longer a sufficient common ground.

    There are things that can be done to mitigate this like not posting angry, and I take it that LT would like the gap to be bridged by respect. This seems to me to be a case of begging the question. There certainly is a lack of respect, but this lack of respect is caused by the exchange, and hence cannot be used as the remedy. Lack of respect is the effect, not the cause.

    At the end of the day this is the stuff of schisms. I find myself caring less and less about the team. My PVR didn’t work properly last night, and I wasn’t upset at all. By contrast, I watched every game of the Omark year, I cheered like crazy at the beginning of both Eakins’ years, blaming the catastrophic goaltending the whole way. Now, I barely care. Winning, it turns out, is not the most important thing.

  40. Timeisnow says:

    LT, good article. I couldn’t agree more about the male ego. I think sometimes we’re all guilty as charged.

    I read David’s stuff and do agree with some of his takes. Can’t say I agree with his take on BP last night. I thought he played a relatively good game, but had his moments in the Dzone like most Oilers did last night. Just not the greatest of games, it happens. I agree with you, BP is on display for anyone to take a chance on. Would be great if he could turn his game around soon and start to produce like he can.

    What would be considered a decent return for BP?

    Would like Benning up with Sekera starting now. I think it’s time for the push.

  41. StixMalone says:

    I miss the Scar Jo pics…….

  42. Bag of Pucks says:

    Btw, if you’re not inclined to tweet and you’ve grown tired of certain folk telling you how important it is and how much you’re missing in life by not taking part, I find a good response to be, “Who has the most Twitter followers? Katy Perry. Yeah, clearly this is the home for intelligent discourse on the net.”

  43. russ99 says:

    I’m all for showcasing Pouliot, put him with Connor and Drai for a few games.

    Based on various leaks, they couldn’t give him away earlier, so a pump and dump is probably in order. If we can get a 3rd rounder for him and clear that salary for next year, I’ll consider that a victory.

    If we get that long-awaited 2-way third line pisscutter center, then Caggula will move to left wing where his ice-time and slippery moments can be better managed.

    Not a fan of Sekera – Benning, since Sekera will have to be the anticipate back point man, since Benning goes all over the place.

    Plus Benning has had more than a few nights where he’s poor at crease clearing. Plus McL is obviously sheltering him, and rightly so. Too soon, let’s go back to that next season.

    IMO we’ll do better on that long road trip then estimated, since I’ll be at that Chicago game with my orange Russell jersey cheering like crazy for two points. LOL

    Thanks again, LT for giving us a place to vent. Not that we have much cause for venting these days. Force of habit, I guess.

  44. dustrock says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Btw, if you’re not inclined to tweet and you’ve grown tired of certain folk telling you how important it is and how much you’re missing in life by not taking part, I find a good response to be, “Who has the most Twitter followers? Katy Perry. Yeah, clearly this is the home for intelligent discourse on the net.”

    Well, I generally like Twitter for sports stuff, it’s easy to see whatever amazing highlights happened that night. Also some good sports articles that are easy to find.

    It works for political issues to an extent, though certainly the “echo chamber” effect is real, and it’s spectacular.

    I don’t think it’s really a vehicle for DISCUSSION, per se, not in 140 characters, which is part of the problem.

    I find the best use for twitter is on developing situations – users will pick up on local situations more quickly than the media. Obviously, nothing is vetted and you have to take everything with a grain of salt, but sometimes trending topics are there for a reason.

  45. Bag of Pucks says:

    dustrock: Well, I generally like Twitter for sports stuff, it’s easy to see whatever amazing highlights happened that night.Also some good sports articles that are easy to find.

    It works for political issues to an extent, though certainly the “echo chamber” effect is real, and it’s spectacular.

    I don’t think it’s really a vehicle for DISCUSSION, per se, not in 140 characters, which is part of the problem.

    I find the best use for twitter is on developing situations – users will pick up on local situations more quickly than the media.Obviously, nothing is vetted and you have to take everything with a grain of salt, but sometimes trending topics are there for a reason.

    Agreed. For me, it largely performs the function Google Alerts used to and it’s primarily used as an early warning/litmus test device.

    If I’m looking for informed opinions on a topic, I’m typically looking in a direction without a 140 character limitation. And once they sort out the bandwidth issue, that’s likely what Twitter will ultimately become. When it evolves in that direction, I think the audience will more organically fracture and segment and what you’ll see is those gaining followers for more detailed nuanced tweets vs those preferring the drive by shooting paced commentary.

  46. linkfromhyrule says:

    That line about the “two more fools on earth” was gold LT. Love it.

    Twitter is a mostly poisonous place devoid of nuance or basic levels of human decency.

    It’s also an excellent place to keep up on current events with regards to sports, news, politics etc.

    Also, funny dog and cat gifs!

    I have noticed a distinct downturn in the level of discourse on Twitter in the past couple years. Seems like a perfect storm of Trump, Taylor Hall, Kris Russel, and the Oilers winning.

    I find myself muting, blocking, and unfollowing lots of people to avoid the poisonous BS that some are all too ready to throw around.

    It is what it is. I much prefer the discourse here!

  47. magneto says:

    russ99,

    If you are worried about crease clearance, I would worry about Russell. I think that is his weakest area in the Dzone, too small to do it against big guys and he prioritizes blocking shots so he isn’t in the crease much.

  48. fifthcartel says:

    I would like to see them move Benning with Sekera. Maybe Russell-Davidson or something like that.

  49. Bag of Pucks says:

    Bruce WayneBy contrast, I watched every gameof the Omark year, I cheered like crazy at the beginning of both Eakins’ years, blaming the catastrophic goaltending the whole way.Now, I barely care.Winning, it turns out, is not the most important thing.

    Is it possible you’re not enjoying the winning because it affords you less of an avenue to criticize the major contributors?

    The fact that you’re not enjoying a winning team says much more about you than it does about any perceived value in lost ‘common ground’ imo.

    When I’m surrounded by 18k at Rogers Place applauding a victory while the team raises their sticks in salute, I gotta say, it feels like there’s whole lot of common ground being enjoyed there.

  50. Lloyd B. says:

    Bag of Pucks: Agreed. For me, it largely performs the function Google Alerts used to and it’s primarily used as an early warning/litmus test device.

    If I’m looking for informed opinions on a topic, I’m typically looking in a direction without a 140 character limitation. And once they sort out the bandwidth issue, that’s likely what Twitter will ultimately become. When it evolves in that direction, I think the audience will more organically fracture and segment and what you’ll see is those gaining followers for more detailed nuanced tweets vs those preferring the drive by shooting paced commentary.

    I am not on twitter and not likely to ever be but…If you are following somebody and the twitter folks go to more than 140 characters … wouldn’t that be email?

  51. Scungilli says:

    To me issue with social media has to do with a lack of direct consequences. I wouldn’t say it’s men that are the issue because they are men, but that aggressive people can beak off without having to face their victims, and many choose to do it. Men tend to be more aggressive than women so it’s often men behaving that way.

    Twitter is worst because it limits expression, so nobody can really explain anything well there at the best of times. Fertile ground for arguments.

  52. bendelson says:

    Bruce Wayne,

    Schism: great song… and the pieces fit.

  53. npanciroli says:

    magneto,

    That and giving up entry too easily are my biggest complaints, he seems pretty solid at puck retrieval and skating the puck out by my eye.

    With that said I don’t see a fit for him next year at the likely price tag.

    I would love to have a more veteran RHD that could handle 2nd or 3rd pairing EV and PP minutes.

    The name came up earlier.

    Klefbom Larsson
    Sekera Vatanen/Benning
    Nurse Vatanen/Benning

    this then covers Benning a bit if he struggles in year 2.

  54. Tapdog says:

    Lloyd B.,

    Thank you for the great answer. You are a good man modelling what LT speaks of.

  55. Primetime says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: And if we go 7-3-1 we will lose Davidson (or Reinhart).

    We are going to lose someone it will hurt to lose in every scenario. All teams will. We seem to spend a lot of energy worrying about an inevitable loss.

    No, I agree with you NYC and that’s my point. I would make the trade regardless of having to be 8-1 or 7-3-1 for the draft. We are going to lose someone regardless…the trade I proposed makes us better now and in the future, even factoring in whoever we lose. Regardless, I don’t think GMs will worry about expansion draft at this trade deadline…plenty of time after the season to make those moves

  56. Glass says:

    I’m not sure how much smoke there is behind the Vatanen rumors. I read this Oilersnation’s “Would Sami Vatanen be a Good Fit?” piece again. He seems like he’d be a good acquisition, and could be had for cheaper this year.

    Of the dmen who have had their name floated around, Dumba isn’t likely going anywhere. I think I would take Vatanen over Barrie, although I haven’t done a comparison of both players. Trouba would take a lot to acquire, with possible character issues/salary negotiations down the line.

    I wonder if there is a package we can make that is big enough to pry Faulk out of Carolina? He’s on an excellent contract and would push Larsson & Benning down the line-up.

    I’m looking forward to seeing how Chia puts the finishing touches on our D-corps.

  57. magneto says:

    npanciroli,

    Russell can mitigate the zone entry problems with his speed, but they usually lead to dump outs. I think we saw that more against Minnesota and other hard forechecking teams. I like him for the year, even next if you have to.
    The more years he is on the team on the 2nd pair or above, those are years that the Oilers will be worse than they should be.

  58. russ99 says:

    magneto:
    russ99,

    If you are worried about crease clearance, I would worry about Russell. I think that is his weakest area in the Dzone, too small to do it against big guys and he prioritizes blocking shots so he isn’t in the crease much.

    The point being that Sekera doesn’t have to do too much defensive heavy lifting with Russell, so he’s more effective going the other way. With Benning as a pairing mate, Sekera woud be the “Russell” of the pairing.

    LT: What’s your take on the Bye Week we have this year?

    Ours is 2/6 through 2/10, complete days off for the players, but we can practice after 4PM on 2/10 since we’re playing the next day.

    If we come back from the holiday break and all-star break ice cold and jumpy, what’s that going to do to us?

    Also, does that open things up for Chia in regards to moves? Or too far from the deadline?

  59. Bag of Pucks says:

    Lloyd B.: I am not on twitter and not likely to ever be but…If you are following somebody and the twitter folks go to more than 140 characters … wouldn’t that be email?

    Not really. The reason Twitter is deemed ‘social’ media is because of all of the dynamic peer-to-peer functionality that doesn’t readily exist in an email. In short, your email communication is limited to the size of your distribution list so it lacks the ability to go viral (i.e. trend) to the same extent as a twitter conversation.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2016/01/05/twitter-to-expand-tweets-140-character-limit-to-10000/

    Twitter will eventually create an option with a larger character limit, because if they don’t, a competitor will. That will be a good day imo as the 140 character limit doesn’t lend itself to nuanced conversation. There’s a reason teenage girls were early adapters.

  60. magneto says:

    I think a worthy expansion idea is to trade Davidson for a forward (3C) that can fit for years to come. That lets them protect 7-3-1, and not lose as big of a piece.

    Protect
    Draisaitl
    Eberle
    RNH
    Lucic
    Maroon
    Letestu
    New player

    Sekera
    Larsson
    Klefbom

    Don’t have to protect Kassian because I don’t think he would sign with LV if the Oilers are offering a contract as well.

    Lose one of Pouliot, Fayne. Reinhart, Khaira. Could work out a pick deal to stay away from Reinhart if you wanted to. Work on a trade after expansion for a RH D that can play 2nd pair.

  61. magneto says:

    russ99,

    I think a pairing without Russell would spend less time in their own end, taking that burden from Sekera.

    Less off the glass and out or missed passes = less time in your own end

  62. Confused says:

    What worries me most is Looch.

    He has looked lost in his own end all season, defensively he is Yak like.

    Offensively, he needs people to cycle with and grind but only the 4th line does this.

    Perhaps we could move test out the PK rotation and play

    Looch test Kass
    Cags lander slepy

  63. russ99 says:

    magneto:
    russ99,

    I think a pairing without Russell would spend less time in their own end, taking that burden from Sekera.

    Less off the glass and out or missed passes = less time in your own end

    And more strain on our goalkeeper when the opposition gets in, likely on a break because too many forwards have left the zone. And you know how great we are at picking up the off-side trailer.

    I don’t subscribe to the possession theory that possession D affect shots against very much, otherwise we’d see a noticeable shot decrease for a pairing like Klefbom/Larsson. But defensive D do affect shot quality.

    CF% is primarily about our offensive chances. HDSC against is about how much we’re helping our goalkeeper.

    Also, the move the puck off the glass/boards is systemic, all our defensemen do it. Watch the San Jose game again.

  64. Jaxon says:

    I’m all for keeping Pouliot, and not just showcasing him, but actually giving him a decent chance with McDavid. He scored at a great pace last year when McDavid was just getting started. He’s fast and plays a quick-touch game similar to McDavid’s (albeit at a much less prolific rate). I’ve thought all along that Pouliot is his best match of the Oilers’ left wing options, just as I think Puljujarvi will eventually be his best right wing match.

    Pouliot / McDavid / Draisaitl (maybe one of Vrbata, Vanek, or Gionta could play on the right so Draisaitl could center a 3rd line and negate the need for a Hanzal)
    Maroon / Nugent-Hopkins / Eberle
    Lucic / Lander / Slepyshev (Hanzal would look good here, too)
    Caggiula / Letestu / Kassian

    Klefbom / Larsson
    Sekera / Russell (Seidenberg would be a much better option here, Stone too)
    Nurse / Benning

    Talbot
    Broissot (Nilsson’s return would be welcomed, or Griess (is he re-signing with NYI for sure?))

  65. npanciroli says:

    The chipping the puck off the glass drives me nuts.

  66. magneto says:

    russ99,

    Off the glass happens more against better teams, the less you are forced to do it the better and there are a lot of factors there.

    Russell’s PDO is back down to 100.6 so we are seeing more of his true self. In terms of Sekera, I think I know who is helping who on that pairing (ie. similar results with the villain Mark Fayne last year on a much worse team) but I am no expert.

  67. linkfromhyrule says:

    Don’t get baited into the Russell debate..
    Don’t get baited into the Russell debate..
    Don’t get baited into the Russell debate..

    Serenity now!

    I hope Chiarelli makes a trade for a legitimate 2RD, not because I hate Russell, but because I believe the team will be better with him on the 3rd pairing. If they are going to keep him, at least deploy him properly.

    Moving on…

    Brossoit didn’t exactly inspire confidence last night. Hopefully that’s just rust/nerves/MIN being ridiculous.

    That goal on the 2 on 1 was not good. Our D had the pass covered but he was still cheating towards pass. Hopefully he learns from that, but if I’m Chia I’m working the phones for a non-expansion exempt back-up G.

    Vegas can only pick up one player, if it’s our backup G then have at ‘er!

    MIN is insane in their own slot. Just ridiculous. They swarm the slot!

  68. New Improved Darkness says:

    oilfan9911:
    I would suggest that the idea isn’t to try and trick a GM into taking a guy because he puts up points with a top line player. Rather, it’s demonstrate that a player can move up in the lineup and play with skill and not be a dead weight.

    I’ve never quoted a tweet before. Well, first time for everything. Here goes.

    Vintage Dennett: “Rathering”, the “Surely” operator, Rhetorical Questions and “Deepities” as tools for mis-thinking. #IntuitionPumps
    @RichardDawkins

    It was the occurrence of “rather” in the excerpt above that put me onto this, because as harmless as it was, it nevertheless fell through the standard “rather” trap door: 2 of 2, end of menu.

    ———

    Here’s my own favourite option #3: it’s not the GMs who are fooled by Showcase Theatre, but a particular type of po-swinging fan (I’ve always thought that “man” should be generic, and we should amend two into three by adding the term “pomen”—neatly dividing humans in po-outies and wo-innies).

    Suppose you have two GMs who rationally agree to exchange their black-optic black sheep. Neither GM is a fool. Both GMs fully understand that a two-week spin on Connor’s port side turns fishy water into fishy wine. However, the fishy wine comes packaged in a much nicer bottle. It even reads 14% ABV, a number that momentarily stuns a certain type of vitriolic fan into being a mite less vitriolic—just enough to forestall the Twitter tsunami from reaching critical mass.

    And so, both GMs dress up their failed assets, make a non-fishy swap of fishy liquids (briefly disguised as wine), wait a suitable interval for the Twitter optics to fade from the limelight—two to four weeks should suffice—then return the fishy asset to its rightful place, half an ass cheek riding the short end of the pine.

    (Bonus: Keep the fancy wine bottle near to hand for off-season re-gifting.)

    ———

    Since fishy assets tend to swim down hill, Showcase Theatre is not always applied equally on both sides. The fish heading upstream to the contender has probably seen better days (where “better” = pretty damn good). The fish heading downstream is probably still equipped with his original factory defect.

    With the optics now superficially one-sided, the cry goes up that one GM out-showcased the other. Since running a player for ten games on the Semenko Express is a pretty transparent move (not invented recently by any stretch) the underlying implication is that the losing GM recently fell off the rubber-room turnip truck (this is the special turnip truck that delivers the village idiot to the rubber room in Eyrie Canyon).

    In all sports, all fans—i.e., the noisiest ones—are smarter that two-thirds of all GMs, all of the time.

    In all professional sports, the upper echelon of management consists of ten cagey bastards (membership may vary week over week, though usually three or four have permanent tenure).

    ———

    As far as I can recall, I’ve never heard a woman advocate for a quick Showcase pump and dump. It’s been a long time since I last hung out with seventeen-year-old girls (well, like never) so perhaps there are some women out there who haven’t yet got the memo on Showcase Remorse. Beats me. I wouldn’t know.

  69. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Of all the nights to not watch the game live and follow it on twitter……

    No wonder I woke up this morning and had a bunch of mentions even though I didn’t tweet.

    Also,

    WC standings this morning using games. 8th place set to 0, ties broken with pts% (games in hand)

    MIN 19
    SJS 12
    CHI 10
    ANA 10
    EDM 9
    NSH 3
    LAK 1
    STL 0
    —————–
    VAN -1
    DAL -2
    CGY -2
    WPG -4
    ARI -14
    COL -22

    I think LAK slowly separates themselves and STL, VAN, DAL and CGY fight for the last spot.

    DAL is actually getting some goaltending this year from Lehtonen so if they figure out the D and stay healthy they have a shot. CGY needs some goalering and 3 Dmen. I just don’t think VAN has the horses.

    The race in the East for the last spot is even more of horse race, check this out:

    WSH 17
    CBJ 16
    PIT 13
    MTL 11
    NYR 8
    OTT 5
    TOR 2
    NYI 0
    ————————-
    PHI 0
    BOS 0
    FLA -2
    CAR -2
    BUF -5
    NJD -5
    TBY -6
    DET -6

    NYR is actually in a wildcard spot because of being in the same division of death with WSH, CBJ, PIT so really its a fight for 2nd and 3rd in the Atlantic between OTT, TOR, BOS and FLA who also can fight with NYI, PHI and CAR for the last wildcard spot.

    I bet 2 spots in that Conference are unknown with 2 days left in the season.

    Love that NYI turned a horrid season around.

    I enjoy watching Doug Weight do well.

    Except if he’s with CAR.

    Man.

  70. magneto says:

    My Russell thoughts are basically-

    He is having a good year limiting goals, something that he has not repeated in recent seasons.
    What are the chances that he can do the same next year?

    He is exiting his prime years soon, also very small for a NHL defenceman in the west, and doesn’t have much bite to his game.
    Extending him limits the team going forward in terms of play and roster makeup, but ride him until he breaks.

  71. dustrock says:

    If the Blues are going for it, are they keeping Shattenkirk until the deadline? Do they keep him for a playoff run and lose him for nothing? Tough choice.

    Ditto Berglund, I suppose.

  72. GMB3 says:

    Bruce Wayne: The very idea of this trade makes me nauseous.

    If that actually happens it will be interesting to see what lengths the masses will go to twist their brains in knots to defend Chiarelli’s gross incompetence this time.

    Good morning Bruce! how are you doing? How about those Oilers, hey? Enjoying the ride?

  73. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Oilers Dmen from Nov 1 – Feb 1 (to remove the magical run in Oct)

    Shots % and Goal % , nothing too fancy here.

    GF%
    Player GF%
    MATTHEW.BENNING 61.0
    ANDREJ.SEKERA 55.3
    ADAM.LARSSON 54.2
    OSCAR.KLEFBOM 46.8
    KRIS.RUSSELL 46.2
    DARNELL.NURSE 45.5
    ERIC.GRYBA 36.4

    GF% is pretty PDO dependent in a small sample so:

    PDO
    Player PDO
    MATTHEW.BENNING 102.4
    ADAM.LARSSON 101.4
    ANDREJ.SEKERA 101.2
    KRIS.RUSSELL 99.4
    OSCAR.KLEFBOM 98.7
    DARNELL.NURSE 97.8
    ERIC.GRYBA 94.6

    SF%
    Player SF%
    MATTHEW.BENNING 54.0
    ERIC.GRYBA 53.4
    DARNELL.NURSE 52.6
    ANDREJ.SEKERA 51.3
    OSCAR.KLEFBOM 50.7
    ADAM.LARSSON 49.7
    KRIS.RUSSELL 48.5

  74. Woogie63 says:

    When was the last time Hopkins “carried” the team on his back and won a game?

  75. delooper says:

    If any regulars feel like having a beer in Victoria and talking about topological statistics applied to sports analytics, feel free to drop by.

  76. ashley says:

    Some of us ladies have pretty big egos too. But I agree, ego is a terrible thing. The root of many awful things that have happened in our world and the root of many relationship failures are found in ego.

    We would all be in a better place if we heard more of some things:

    -That is a good point that I had not thought of.
    -Thank you for the engaging debate.
    -You were right, I was wrong.
    -You did that better than me.
    -I don’t have all the answers.
    -I am speculating, but could be wrong and have been before.
    -I am sorry.

    For some of us, just reading those statements will make us wince.

    It’s a lifelong battle for all of us.

  77. GMB3 says:

    Ty Conklin and Marty Brodeur sharing the duties of goalie coach in STL with the firing of Jim Corsi. Two NHL Legends

  78. dustrock says:

    ashley:

    We would all be in a better place if we heard more of some things:

    -That is a good point that I had not thought of.
    -Thank you for the engaging debate.
    -You were right, I was wrong.
    -You did that better than me.
    -I don’t have all the answers.
    -I am speculating, but could be wrong and have been before.
    -I am sorry.

    Ain’t that the truth? I think the last 6 months have been a good reminder that progess doesn’t inherently follow a straight line towards rainbows and unicorns. Setbacks can expose weaknesses and working through them can lead to greater success.

    I am concerned though, particularly amongst what should be the largest group of highly-educated people in the history of Earth, about the persistence of magical thinking.

  79. oilcanharry says:

    Great stuff, LT. If only there were some generally-applicable life lessons in there…

  80. CrazyCoach says:

    Jethro Tull: who is a Steinway filled with concrete tied to your arse..

    Can I use this in my coaching clinics

  81. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    GMB3:
    Ty Conklin and Marty Brodeur sharing the duties of goalie coach in STL with the firing of Jim Corsi. Two NHL Legends

    Here’s their advice:

    Brodeur: “Play for a team that allows 18 shots a game”

    Conklin: “STAY IN YOUR NET!!”

  82. Jethro Tull says:

    I think many people are misinterpreting what ‘ego’ is:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_super-ego

    Ego isn’t a bad thing. It simply is.

  83. Jethro Tull says:

    CrazyCoach: Can I use this in my coaching clinics

    You can, but it’s pretty heavy.

  84. pocession charge says:

    Pechetr:
    Never have been and never will be on Twitter. Social media is the downfall of mankind. No accountability or responsibility required.

    Hit the nail on the head. Would be an interesting thesis for a post-grad student.

  85. pocession charge says:

    So the Oilers lost to the top team in the conference with some sub-optimal performances last night. I think I read that headline on page 28 of the newspaper, next to pet obituaries. Not exactly earth-shattering news and certainly not worth getting into verbal/thumbing arguments over.

  86. npanciroli says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Man Benning is good. Looks good by eye also.

    What are your thoughts on the Larsson and Klefbom discrepancy? Basically PDO?

  87. kinger_OIL says:

    – Your a kind man LT, a wise one: thanks for the great post!

    – I’m in favour of Russell on the 2nd pair as the vet and Benning on the 3rd, gaining confidence and getting reps with less pressure. Given the current roster this makes sense to me

    – When Nurse comes back, how do they play all 7, plus give Griff games to evaluate?

  88. Rocknrolla says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Here’s their advice:

    Brodeur: “Play for a team that allows 18 shots a game”

    Conklin: “STAY IN YOUR NET!!”

    LOL

  89. spoiler says:

    Is it Sexism Day?

  90. spoiler says:

    ashley,

    Awesome post.

  91. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    Pechetr:
    Never have been and never will be on Twitter. Social media is the downfall of mankind. No accountability or responsibility required.

    Internet message boards (such as those found on this fine site) are a form of social media.

  92. spoiler says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Here’s their advice:

    Brodeur: “Play for a team that allows 18 shots a game”

    Conklin: “STAY IN YOUR NET!!”

    Conklin: YOU TOO CAN BE A STARTER IF YOU JUST SLIP YOUR 3RD PAIRING DEFENSEMAN A FEW EXTRA BENJAMINS!!

  93. wheatnoil says:

    Jethro Tull:
    I think many people are misinterpreting what ‘ego’ is:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_super-ego

    Ego isn’t a bad thing.It simply is.

    That’s the psychoanalytics definition of ‘ego’, which you are correct to say isn’t a bad thing. It’s just ‘me’, essentially. That’s slightly different from the term ‘ego’ as it’s used commonly and as it’s used as part of the phrase ‘male ego’.

  94. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    npanciroli:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    Man Benning is good. Looks good by eye also.

    What are your thoughts on the Larsson and Klefbom discrepancy? Basically PDO?

    Yeah, a little PDO and also ~150 min apart

  95. GMB3 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Here’s their advice:

    Brodeur: “Play for a team that allows 18 shots a game”

    Conklin: “STAY IN YOUR NET!!”

    Gold. 😂

    I may be naive by asking this question, but do goalie coaches get the rest of their contract paid out after being fired?

    I really hope so. Jake Allen absolutely imploded and their GC lost his job as a result.

  96. Jethro Tull says:

    wheatnoil: That’s the psychoanalytics definition of ‘ego’, which you are correct to say isn’t a bad thing. It’s just ‘me’, essentially. That’s slightly different from the term ‘ego’ as it’s used commonly and as it’s used as part of the phrase ‘male ego’.

    Yes, and it is mis-used. For one, it is often used in derogatory fashion against some dude who simply disagrees with you whereas it should be used to indicate disparity between genders and highlight the aggression that some males display against women, particularly those who are in positions of power, influence or responsibility

    How come you reference in a negative fashion to ‘the male ego’? Fascinating. (And if you’re really bored, look up the etymology of the word ‘fascinate’. Now THAT’S sexism.) As I have stated before, whilst it certainly exists, the development of ‘social media crusaders’ isn’t just confined, nor indeed exclusive to, misogynistic male patriarchal society. The relative anonymity or the fact that many people live thousands of miles away from each other allows for someone with an avatar such as “HUGEBAREKNUCKLEFISTFIGHTCHAMP211” to be a 12yo schoolgirl on her I-pad, causing all kinds of shit whilst the rest of the family watches Jeopardy.

    An interesting fact: Women, particularly teenagers, are more likely to experience cyber-bullying both as a victim AND as an offender.

    http://cyberbullying.org/facts

    I wish I knew less about this. Personal experience both as a young lad many years ago and currently bringing up a 12yo schoolgirl daughter with an I-pad (though she was the victim) has decided otherwise.

  97. Woogie63 says:

    Should we trade for Jake Allen now, or wait until he goes to another team, and another team, plays in the AHL, gets a shot with a bottom feeder, then come here where we can play some defence.

  98. Lowetide says:

    Woogie63:
    Should we trade for Jake Allen now, or wait until he goes to another team, and another team, plays in the AHL, gets a shot with a bottom feeder, then come here where we can play some defence.

    Reto Berra is going to be the next backup.

  99. Lloyd B. says:

    ashley,

    I have found that “yes dear” works pretty well.

  100. RexLibris says:

    Jethro Tull:
    I think many people are misinterpreting what ‘ego’ is:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_super-ego

    Ego isn’t a bad thing.It simply is.

    Wheat already got on this, but yes I think some of us would understand the distinction between the Freudian use of ego versus the popular.

    That said, in either case, I think an argument could be made that the problem LT defines fits with both terms, just from different perspectives and by different means.

  101. RexLibris says:

    Lowetide: Reto Berra is going to be the next backup.

    Reto Berra winning a Stanley Cup in Edmonton would be a distant 2nd place trolling job to Jarome Iginla doing it…but I think I’d take it all the same.

  102. kinger_OIL says:

    – The post a week or so ago that had the Allman Brothers references and links got me exploring their stuff some more, what a band. Another tragedy hit the band, awful:

    “Allman Brothers drummer Butch Trucks killed himself in front of his wife, police reports released Wednesday show.”

  103. GMB3 says:

    Another stupid question..

    If Ilya Kovalchuk attempts an NHL comeback, I think the Oilers would be stupid not to throw a line out there. He was one of the best snipers in the NHL playing on garbage teams. Trade Poo, give Kovy a show me deal.

  104. RexLibris says:

    GMB3:
    Another stupid question..

    If Ilya Kovalchuk attempts an NHL comeback, I think the Oilers would be stupid not to throw a line out there. He was one of the best snipers in the NHL playing on garbage teams. Trade Poo, give Kovy a show me deal.

    I’d be happy with that.

    Something I think people forget is how effective he was as a 2-way forward at the end of his NHL time here. And a horse with his TOI.

  105. Lowetide says:

    kinger_OIL:
    – The post a week or so ago that had the Allman Brothers references and links got me exploring their stuff some more, what a band.Another tragedy hit the band, awful:

    “Allman Brothers drummer Butch Trucks killed himself in front of his wife, police reports released Wednesday show.”

    God. That is awful. What incredible music and tragedy.

  106. ashley says:

    Lloyd B.:
    ashley,

    I have found that “yes dear” works pretty well.

    A few years ago I had a dream in which my husband pissed me off so much I woke up mad as hell at him and he couldn’t figure out why. Now he just wakes up with the apology ready….and a few quick teasing jabs about that time I was mad at him about what he did in MY dream.

  107. RexLibris says:

    ashley: A few years ago I had a dream in which my husband pissed me off so much I woke up mad as hell at him and he couldn’t figure out why.Now he just wakes up with the apology ready….and a few quick teasing jabs about that time I was mad at him about what he did in MY dream.

    I’ve heard this same story from other married couples (always the wife) many times.

    I think it is just safer for us men to assume we did something to deserve it, either once or in aggregate, apologize and move on.

  108. NativeNotFrench says:

    Lowetide: kinger_OIL:
    – The post a week or so ago that had the Allman Brothers references and links got me exploring their stuff some more, what a band.Another tragedy hit the band, awful:
    “Allman Brothers drummer Butch Trucks killed himself in front of his wife, police reports released Wednesday show.”
    God. That is awful. What incredible music and tragedy.

    Once every few months on a Friday night me and the missus put on a record and dance around the living room together and forget everything else for an hour or two. At Fillmore East is a personal favorite of both of ours. Just an incredible collection of music.

    Butchs’ nephew, Derek and his wife’s band (Tedeschi Trucks Band) are a band I have seen every time they grace us in the winter city and are well worth the price of admission. Good music is like nothing else. So sad when those who are blessed with the ability to play it well never seem to find peace in other parts of their life. Butch Trucks was an incredible drummer and I hope he has found peace now. R.I.P

  109. hunter1909 says:

    kinger_OIL: “Allman Brothers drummer Butch Trucks killed himself in front of his wife, police reports released Wednesday show.”

    At 69 he might have had all kinds of health problems. With the Allman Brothers finished, probably forever that would definitely be a downer. He’s probably sorry he did that in front of his wife, or something.

    The first time I heard about people shooting themselves was when I was maybe 7 years old getting ready for school in the winter(pitch dark). Some Saskatchewan farmer shot his seven children and wife before turning the gun on himself. Being 7 years old the thing that struck me was knowing that the man was about to lose his farm, and didn’t want to see his family suffer.

  110. hunter1909 says:

    I bravely chickened out after the 1st period last night : p

    Oilers gave it their best shot, but the Wild are their new Sharks. Very good team.

    Lowetide, they make the playoffs, easy. Enough with the “everything’s about to collapse” schtick, lol.

    Just checked the sked. Oilers play tomorrow, then the day after that. That’s good. Keep playing while the going is good.

  111. Lowetide says:

    The Oilers finally acquired Henrik Samuelsson. Haha. Man.

  112. Chachi says:

    Lowetide:
    The Oilers finally acquired Henrik Samuelsson. Haha. Man.

    For Moroz. Hmmm.

  113. JDï™ says:

    Sail on Moroz.

  114. pocession charge says:

    Lloyd B.:
    ashley,

    I have found that “yes dear” works pretty well.

    “I may have misspoken”. Hey, it works for the Prime Minister.

  115. pocession charge says:

    Chachi: For Moroz. Hmmm.

    Maybe we can get Reider back (for KK).

  116. JDï™ says:

    3 points in 20 AHL games for Henrik. Oh well.

  117. JamesL says:

    I can’t say I’m high on Samuelsson, but if this really was a one-for-one trade, isn’t this a reasonable upgrade?

    122GP 11-11-22 vs. 131GP 23-32-55

  118. Confused says:

    Pretty low risk stuff……one oil king for another.

  119. Chachi says:

    pocession charge: Maybe we can get Reider back (for KK).

    Ha!

  120. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Both sit at 3P and longshots for the NHL. Samuelsson at least an AHL impact player at one time. Moroz, very nice whenever I’d run into him in Calgary. Fresh start for both, I like it from EDM’s perspective

  121. russ99 says:

    Interesting. Though the Condors have been light at center since Khaira moved up.

  122. Chachi says:

    JDï™:
    3 points in 20 AHL games for Henrik. Oh well.

    Looks like he is going to keep a low profile and fight his way up the depth chart in Bakersfield.. oh wait nevermind:

    Henrik Samuelsson ‏@Hsamuelsson1994 8m8 minutes ago
    Excited to be back in oil country, hopefully can help lift more cups in this city!

  123. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    We just traded a month old lottery ticket we found on the street for a fresh one with an outside chance at winning us a free lunch.

  124. bendelson says:

    Lowetide:
    The Oilers finally acquired Henrik Samuelsson. Haha. Man.

    I hear a couple of bells ringing in the distance…

  125. Ben says:

    Well…better the devil you know than the devil you didn’t bother to properly scout because that devil didn’t happen to be playing in your backyard.

  126. Primetime says:

    Even if both never make the show, one is a LW the other a RH Centre….if one for one, its definitely a better bet for the Oil….

    As has been said many times on this blog, Chia does very well on these smaller scale deals….

  127. Georges says:

    Others have mentioned the Wild’s slot play in this thread. Here’s an excerpt from a Jan. 15th article on the Wild:

    The one concern for Minnesota should be its shot attempt differential, which ranks 24th in the league. But that is a product of how Bruce Boudreau has designed his system. The Wild protect the net, then look to score on the rush and take high percentage shots.

    There is evidence of this. According to the hockey statistics website Natural Stat Trick, the Wild are No. 3 in the NHL in High Danger Shot Percentage, which simply means their share of shots within areas close to the net is the third best of any team in the league. More or less, they’re getting more good shots as opposed to just more shots.

    Natural Stat Trick lists the Wild as having 347 close shots for and only 285 against. That could be part of the reason Dubnyk has been as good as he has this year.

    http://www.1500espn.com/wild-2/2017/01/wild-owner-leipold-wrong-wild-takes-win-cup/

    Corsica breaks down the shots a goalie faces into high, medium, and low danger areas. Here’s the average league-wide save percentage for each of those areas:

    LD 97.6%
    MD 92.1%
    HD 80.2%

    Here’s the number of shots a team has to take in each zone to average 1 goal.

    LD 42
    MD 13
    HD 5

    The Wild are in the same spot the Jackets were a few weeks back. The team is below 50% on 5v5 CF% and they have the highest all-situations PDO of any team going back to the 87-88 season. The Wild are going to come back down. But do they look like they’re going to crash? Do they look like a mediocre team riding a PDO wave?

    The Wild lead the league in all-situations HDSF%. They are the best team so far this season on winning the shot battle in the high danger area, the area where shots become much more valuable. This is how, according to the quote, Boudreau has designed his system, to win in one part of the ice rather than all over the ice. So part of the PDO boost they’re getting is from their systems play. Results from systems play should be sustainable. This is the lesson from Corsi.

    In recent years, HDSF% and SF% were pretty highly correlated. This year and the past year, not so much. The relationship between shots and winning has weakened. But the relationship between winning and winning the shot battle in the high danger area has strengthened.

    Coaches for PIT, MIN, and CBJ have talked about placing less emphasis on shots in general and more emphasis on scoring chances or high danger shots. They’re willing to exchange 2 MD shots (or a bushel full of LD shots) for 1 HD shot because the math makes sense.

    I think the game’s changing. The leading teams are moving away from Corsi and shot volume as performance measures and looking for edges in percentages and shot quality. They’re trying to sustain these edges with systems and personnel rather than accepting that PDO measures are outside their control.

    Meanwhile, BOS and LA are still doing the old, hard core Corsi thing and find themselves just at the edge of the playoff hunt. If they finish inside the playoffs and go on a run, then I would definitely take that as vindication of the view that when it comes to shots, it’s better to focus on volume rather than quality. I’m very interested to see how this shakes out by the end of the season.

    The Oilers, by the way, are terrible at protecting the high danger area this season. We really saw that last night. The good news is that they were getting better in January (until last night) and they have been terrific at attacking the other team’s high danger area, just behind PIT and TOR.

    Great offense, shaky but improving defense, Talbot. More than good enough for now.

  128. Soup Fascist says:

    Maybe a Bizzaro world Reider for Kessey?

  129. LadiesloveSmid says:

    is Samuelsson a centre? I remember him as a RW in Edmonton

  130. Roughneck says:

    Lowetide,

    Right shot who can wire a puck as I recall, and a nasty piece of work to play against. Moroz was square up honest, sammy is more from the Tkatchuk dirtbag school of integrity. It is a negotiable concept.
    (at best)

  131. Side says:

    Bruce Wayne:

    At the end of the day this is the stuff of schisms.I find myself caring less and less about the team.My PVR didn’t work properly last night, and I wasn’t upset at all.By contrast, I watched every gameof the Omark year, I cheered like crazy at the beginning of both Eakins’ years, blaming the catastrophic goaltending the whole way.Now, I barely care.Winning, it turns out, is not the most important thing.

    Didn’t you say you were no longer a “fan” a couple of months ago?

    Sounds like you’re more of a fan of the players instead of the actual team.

    I’m also guessing it has something to do with the fact that the Oilers are winning with “can’t tie his own Shoes Chiarelli” as GM and “Not worth a 7th round draft pick Lucic” in the lineup. I’m guessing you were hoping for this season to tank because “idiot” Chiarelli isn’t smart enough to run a team. But, the fact that Oilers are winning is probably killing you inside.

    Welp, enjoy your new team the Devils! You can cheer like hell for them to miss the playoffs now.

  132. commonfan14 says:

    Lowetide: The Oilers finally acquired Henrik Samuelsson. Haha. Man.

    Can Vanek be far behind?

  133. russ99 says:

    commonfan14: Can Vanek be far behind?

    Shhh! 😀

  134. Spoils says:

    love the idea of a push for Pouliot. he is a 4th overall pick that apparently has almost no trade value right now. we need to get value for our assets. we are running out of them!

    here’s my crazed belief with Pouliot:

    Eberle, Pouliot, and Nuge were a part of the leadership on the team before McDavid. People are social animals and when a piece like McDavid is added to a room, it really changes things.

    I believe Pouliot needs to re-establish his place on McDavid’s Oilers. My crazy bet would be – he will. And until he does, a trade will almost certainly be a bad move.

  135. russ99 says:

    Spoils,

    I’m on board with that as well, with the addition of McLellan expected them to lead and lead by example, which explains his obvious disappointment in Pouliot.

    I’m not opposed with him staying if he finds himself, but I’d rather have the cap space to add a more complementary piece.

  136. Jethro Tull says:

    Who’s the best Oil King we haven’t got yet?

    Oesterle for Lazar?

  137. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    The best comp for Samuelson is Khaira.

  138. N64 says:

    Chachi: For Moroz. Hmmm.

    That’s the Law of Oil King Conservation Parity.

    Player values change, but on draft day many expected Oil to take Samuelsson if he was available top of the 2nd round. Reaching down to Moroz was the surprise when he wasn’t.

  139. JDï™ says:

    Chachi: Henrik Samuelsson ‏@Hsamuelsson1994 8m8 minutes ago
    Excited to be back in oil country, hopefully can help lift more cups in this city!

    Connor and Henrik, starring in My Fair Winger!

    Can Samuelsson skate?

  140. Primetime says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    is Samuelsson a centre? I remember him as a RW in Edmonton

    Think he plays both positions. However, Gerry Flemming was on Gregor’s show when the trade broke (he obviously already had prior knowledge it was coming) and he specifically mentioned the motivation/justification for the trade was that Henrik was a centre and they were short on centres in Bakersfield.

  141. N64 says:

    Jethro Tull:
    Who’s the best Oil King we haven’t got yet?

    Oesterle for Lazar?

    If you don’t move out an Oil King at the same time you are doing it wrong.
    Musil for Lazar?

  142. Ducey says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    is Samuelsson a centre? I remember him as a RW in Edmonton

    Nope. He was #1 C. Moroz was his LW. Lazar was #2 C.

    Oilers definitely got the better player in this trade, at least based on WHL play.

    Samuelsson had a real nice first year in the AHL (40 pts in 68 games). Wonder what happened?

    Injuries? Met his Kim Basinger from The Natural?

  143. Ducey says:

    N64: If you don’t move out an Oil King at the same time you are doing it wrong.
    Musil for Lazar?

    Musil for Keegan Lowe.

  144. theres oil in virginia says:

    Lowetide:
    The Oilers finally acquired Henrik Samuelsson. Haha. Man.

    So, let me get this straight. The Oilers wanted to draft Samuelson but reached for Moroz because Samuelson didn’t fall. Most fans would have been fine if Samuelson had fallen and been taken by the Oilers, but hated the Moroz pick. Now, neither prospect looks destined for the NHL, and both GMs agree that their value is roughly equal. All that wailing and gnashing of teeth over nothing. Go figure.

  145. N64 says:

    theres oil in virginia: So, let me get this straight.The Oilers wanted to draft Samuelson but reached for Moroz because Samuelson didn’t fall.Most fans would have been fine if Samuelson had fallen and been taken by the Oilers, but hated the Moroz pick.Now, neither prospect looks destined for the NHL, and both GMs agree that their value is roughly equal.All that wailing and gnashing of teeth over nothing.Go figure.

    Exactly what i was also pointing out. One was found money top of the 2nd round. The other a disaster pick. LOL.

  146. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I can’t stop laughing!

    I mentioned Moroz a couple of days ago as a reach pick in the 2nd that was not well thought out. And then they go and trade him for Henrik Samuelsson.

    Guys, I have seen Samuelsson play live here in Tucson 8 times this season. Can fill you in on my two cents.

  147. N64 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I can’t stop laughing!

    I mentioned Moroz a couple of days ago as a reach pick in the 2nd that was not well thought out. And then they go and trade him for Henrik Samuelsson.

    Guys, I have seen Samuelsson play live here in Tucson 8 times this season. Can fill you in on my two cents.

    Whatever they both are now Samuelsson would have been rated a smart pick. But he was gone at 27.

    A fun prediction that week (not a recommendation)

    http://lowetide.ca/2012/06/18/draft-week-post-11-oilers-picks/

    Bob McKenzie is moments away from his final list. Jon Willis has a fun item up at CULT OF HOCKEY predicting (with early help from Derek Zona) the Oilers picks this draft.
    I figured it might be fun to have a lash, so here we go.

    #5 overall: D GRIFFIN REINHART. I think the Oilers decide to trade down and take their version of “cornerstone” defenseman.Big, strong and mobile with a cannon for a shot. Reinhart is not a short term solution and will need time to develop.

    #16 overall:R HENRIK SAMUELSSON. Oilers deal the pick they get from Toronto and their own 2nd rd pick and move up in order to take a power winger with some edge. Samuelsson won’t come quickly but he might just be that prick Edmonton is always looking for in the draft.

  148. N64 says:

    Ducey:
    Apparently Samuelsson has had major ankle surgery and concussions:

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Matt-Henderson/Oilers-Trade-For-Samuelsson-King-For-A-King/191/82617

    That may explain the relative values today being closer.

  149. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Henrik Samuelsson, Tucson Roadrunners scouting report (from home games I have witnessed).

    He was my most disappointing player on the Roadrunners to watch. Now before you decide that I hate the Oilers and I piss on everything, just consider that I mentioned that here on LT’s comments section before we traded for him.

    Why? Because I expected more, given his storied junior career.

    In watching him, at the AHL level, he was always a step behind the play where the puck was concerned. Always chasing. He is not fast enough, and by that I mean both quickness in reaction as well as speed to be on a scoring line at the AHL level. He is a 3rd liner type.

    He has going for him decent size and great work ethic. But he does not have the skill, even at the AHL level to play a feature role on a scoring line. A guy like Christian Fischer on the same team, for example, can skate much better and has more skill, while bringing the size and grit.

    Is Samuelsson a bad player? No. And I have not watched Moroz enough this year to say conclusively whether he is better than Moroz, but if I had to guess based on earlier viewings of Moroz, yes, an upgrade.

    But this is an AHL level move. If Samuelsson is to make it as an NHL-er he needs to find another gear that I have not yet seen. His shot is not good enough, speed not good enough, head for the game not fast enough right now to contribute in a scoring role at the NHL level. If he makes it, it would be as a 4th line RW.

    And no, he does not play C for Tucson.

    This is shuffling the deck chairs among older prospects. I think the Coyotes were disappointed in Samuelsson’s development. He has not been very good and likely they wanted to hit the reset button.

    I do not have a magic 8-ball so I don’t know if Samuelsson will ever find the next level, but at the fringes an upgrade, so nothing to complain about with regards to the price paid to get him.

    I just want everyone to temper their expectations if the last they saw Henrik was as an Oil King. The bloom is off the rose with him–don’t be plugging him into your NHL lineup above Kassian, for example, in your 2017-2018 roster predictions.

    $0.02

    and for a penny more–it’s likely that the various injuries he has sustained just mean he may not ever find that next gear in skating/quickness, which would be a shame.

  150. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    N64,

    I was laughing because of how the Universe works, if that makes sense.

  151. N64 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    N64,

    I was laughing because of how the Universe works, if that makes sense.

    Me too. Narrative Causality. Million to one. So it happens 9 times out of 10.

  152. N64 says:

    Ducey,

    lol. i suppose we are not getting Pysyk for any of our Oil Kings.

  153. rickithebear says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Here’s their advice:
    Brodeur: “Play for a team that allows 18 shots a game”

    Play for a team that allows 0 HD shots!
    94-95 Playoffs Cup win
    #1D Driver +13
    #3D Niedermeyer +11
    #4D Stevens +10
    #6D Daneyko +9
    #16D Albelin +5

    99-00 cup win
    #1D Stevens +9 25:25 TOI
    #1D White +9 14:25 TOI
    #7D Neidemeyer +5 25:27 TOI
    #7D Rafalski +5 21:25 TOI
    #16D Malakov +3 19:30 TOI

    00-01 Finals loss
    #1D Rakalski +10 22:08 TOI
    #4D Neidermeyer +7 23:53 TOI
    #4D White +7 16:45 TOI
    #9D O’Donnell +5 16:20 TOI
    #16D Daneyko +4 16:41 TOI
    #22D Stevens +3 22:36 TOI

    02-03 Cup win
    #1D Stevens +14 24:44 TOI
    #2D Niedermeyer +11 26:06 TOI
    #5D Rafalski +7 25:46 TOI
    #11D White +3 22:01 TOI
    #11D Albelin +3 14:17 TOI

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