G61 2016-17: OILERS AT PANTHERS

The Edmonton Oilers lost a game in which they were not sharp last night, but the real worry is the health of defenseman Adam Larsson. He played only two shifts in the third period, and we await word from the back doctors.

  • Connor McDavid: “Three really good players who play really well together. They did a really good job tonight.”

The goal for Peter Chiarelli is to find 97’s Kurri, and build from there. I think one of the pieces may be Leon, and that fact could inform the deadline, and the future.

DO THE CONGA, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0, goal differential -7
  • Oilers in October 2016: 7-2-0, goal differential +10
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2, goal differential -6
  • Oilers in November 2016: 5-8-2 goal differential -3
  • Oilers in December 2015: 7-6-1, goal differential -9
  • Oilers in December 2016: 7-2-5, goal differential +3
  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-5-2, goal differential -5
  • Oilers in January 2017: 9-4-1, goal differential +8
  • Oilers in February 2016: 3-8-2, goal differential -18
  • Oilers in February 2017: 4-4-0, goal differential -2
  • Oilers after 60, 2015-16: 22-32-6, goal differential -36
  • Oilers after 60, 2016-17: 32-20-8, goal differential +16
The Oilers lost G61 to Ottawa 4-1. Edmonton didn’t have much going last night, but we have to remember Tampa Bay is a fine team already forced into playing playoff hockey. Guess what? An identical team is on the calendar tonight.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: Nashville, Carolina, Montreal (Expected: 1-1-1) (Actual 1-2-0)
  • At home to: Chicago, Arizona, Philadelphia (Expected: 1-1-1) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: Chicago, Tampa Bay, Florida, Washington, Nashville, St. Louis (Expected: 2-3-1) (Actual: 1-1-0)
  • Overall expected result: 4-5-3, 11 points in 12 games
  • Overall current results: 4-4-0, 8 points in 8 games

All is well when taking the entire month into account, Edmonton is right on track with estimates. The one issue with contemplating today? Where are those extra three points we want going to come from? Hurry Talbot!

This means either Darnell Nurse or Eric Gryba, we will probably want to bet on Gryba until Nurse is absolutely ready. One of the good things about the McLellan Oilers is that we don’t see many injured players forced into the lineup. Larsson has been dealing with a foot issue according to Jason Gregor, this back item may be new—and problematic.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Klefbom—Larsson went 14-14 in 13:54 together, and then Klefbom went 2-5 with Matt Benning in 4:10. Klefbom scored a disallowed a goal, and both Swedes had an assist in the game. The Swedes went 3-1 against Palat—Johnson—Kucherov, Klefbom went 4-6 against that line without Larsson. Pairing also had trouble with that damned fourth line of Paquette—Dumont—Brown. Who the hell are these guys?
  • Davidson—Benning went 6-11 in 11:21 together, the big play for Davidson being a spot of bad luck with a broken stick followed by jail break. I thought both men had a hard time connecting on passes, seemed there was always an errant something involved. Moreso than the Swedish pairing, I believe. Went 5-4 against the Johnson line, playing 5:24 against the trio.
  • Sekera—Russell went 8-16 in 14:30 together, this pairing was the top pairing in terms of time together. Went just 4-7 with McDavid, and for me represented the passing disconnect we saw all night among Oilers. Russell made some dandy defensive plays, and had some vapor lock, too. Typical for a D returning from injury.
  • Laurent Brossoit stopped 24 of 27, .889. The first two were not on him, I didn’t get a good look on the third (might have been a screen) but no one should blame the rookie for the loss. Now, about his role as backup? I don’t think last night proved anything one way or another. Tampa’s big line has sick skill.
  • Numbers via NHL.com, Stats.ca and NaturalStatTrick.
  • Oscar Klefbom is really coming into his own offensively now. That nifty fake before the pass to Pakarinen was a brilliant piece of work, and the hammer on the goal is sweet music. He passes well, lugs the puck with increasing confidence, and reminds me of a young Serge Savard (save for some defensive wobble he is still ironing out). This man is very good.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Maroon—McDavid went 18-15, with McDavid’s line also housing Leon Draisaitl (10-6) and Jordan Eberle (7-9). I think the line looked best with Leon, and do think the trio had some good looks (including the Oscar non-goal). Todd McLellan probably wants a center at the deadline, that is my guess. McDavid went 13-14 against the Kucherov—Johnson—Palat line, those guys are exhausting. I felt the Bolts trio both scored well and chanced like machines, but did it while the McDavid line was chasing the puck. I think that was the big part of the game, honestly. I haven’t seen McDavid’s trio spend more time pursuing the play than last night.
  • Hendricks—Letestu—Pakarinen went 5-2 as a trio, the Finn scoring Edmonton’s only goal on a sweet little play by Oscar and then a dandy shot from Iiro the Hiro. Went 5-3 against Namestnikov—Boyle—Filppula.
  • Lucic—Nuge went 5-9, and then Nuge went 1-11 with Kassian and 1-8 with Caggiula. Good grief. Nuge went 0-7 against Namestnikov—Boyle—Filppula in 4:37, that isn’t the money line for Tampa.
  • Lucic—Leon—Slepy went 3-8 until they ran into a Borg cube.
  • I think Peter Chiarelli is going to trade for a center at the deadline.

PETER CHIARELLI’S SHOPPING LIST AT THE DEADLINE

  1. Acquire a two-way center who can play also play wing
  2. Acquire a backup goalie
  3. Get real value for Brandon Davidson at the deadline, by procuring a forward under control and worth protecting (may happen after season)
  4. Laying groundwork for deal with Golden Knights that could be tied into point No. 3.
  5. Grab a mittful of 2017 draft picks.

PC may do none of this, but that quote about owing it to this team really rings true for me. I think a man who feels that way is going to do his level best to find a way. With deadline deals often being made for distant bells, my guess is we see something get done.

  1. Arizona Coyotes: C Martin Hanzal is a perfect fit.
  2. Arizona Coyotes: R Radim Vrbata is also a rental, might be a perfect fit—except for that bonus.
  3. Buffalo Sabres: G Anders Nilsson. Rock solid season.
  4. Colorado Avalanche: C Matt Duchene is a special player.
  5. Colorado Avalanche: R Jarome Iginla may have some left.
  6. Dallas Stars: R Patrick Sharp shoots a lot and that is a good thing.
  7. Dallas Stars: R Patrick Eaves has more than 20 goals and a very nice expiring contract.
  8. Detroit Red Wings: L Thomas Vanek would be a grand solution, but an expensive one.
  9. Detroit Red Wings: RD Mike Green.
  10. Florida Panthers: G Reto Berra could be acquired tonight after the game.
  11. New Jersey Devils: LHD Yohann Auvitu. It’s the right thing to do.
  12. Philadelphia Flyers: G Michal Neuvirth. Most of his January-February outings have been great.
  13. Tampa Bay Lightning: C Brian Boyle has what PC is looking for.
  14. Tampa Bay Lightning: C Tyler Johnson, although why they would trade him is beyond me.
  15. Vancouver Canucks: R Jannik Hansen. He is an under the radar solution who makes sense.
  16. Vancouver Canucks: R Alex Burrows may be able to help.

MORE TRADE DEADLINE

I do think Peter Chiarelli may get creative at the deadline this year, with a view to addressing the weak forward depth chart bubbling under. With Jesse Puljujarvi, Anton Slepyshev and Jujhar Khaira all possibly in the NHL for 2017-18, the AHL forward prospect cupboard could be bare in October.

First, he might try to increase the size of a trade package to include a bona fide forward prospect currently in the AHL. Each winter I write a series of trade targets for AHL players (Pacific Division here, Central will be up later today) and I can see PC grabbing a good center from this group. It might dovetail with the idea of dealing Brandon Davidson for a solid young forward prospect worth protecting from expansion.

The other thing—and I really like this idea—he could do is pursue a junior player about to graduate into pro hockey. If you look at the 2015 draft, most NHL teams are about to experience a watershed of new pro forwards this coming fall—while Edmonton has no forwards from that draft class about to turn pro (McDavid has already impacted the NHL game).

Among the players I would love to see in Edmonton, and possibly available based on standings, I would rank Blake Speers (NJD), Giorgio Estephan (BUF) and Jean-Christophe Beaudin (COL). Among contending teams who might have interest in Brandon Davidson, I would suggest Dennis Yan (TBAY), Graham Knott (CHI) and Adam Musil (STL). Something to consider.

ON NUGE

Yesterday, I posted the WoodMoney on Nuge, he is spending 42 percent of his time (No. 1 among Oilers players) against elites, one of the reasons the offense isn’t there. Last night, he spent just 40 seconds against the Johnson line, still no spark. Dave Keon spoke after his career about cheating too much for defense, and I do think Nuge is there now. Having watched his entire career, one of the things I love most about RNH is his stealth checking—on display again last night against Jonathan Drouin and others. There is a lot of talk about Nuge losing the offensive magic, misplacing the wand.

His 5×5/60 away from Taylor Hall since 2013 is 1.53, an acceptable total considering his heavy work. We always knew Nuge was a power-play witch (source: Tyler Dellow), but it is becoming increasingly obvious that—when used in a strong checking role, as he is now—this is his 5×5 offense. Nuge is 1.30/60 at 5×5 this morning. That isn’t so far from average, away from Taylor Hall. These are the facts. This is us.

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  1. --hudson-- says:

    Just 1 more point needed to close out the month!

  2. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Fitting finish there to that one. Yikes. 2 points! Woot, woot. Hard fought. Oil deserved that, I think. First two periods they outplayed them and the 3rd they were getting worked but scored on a counter attack and then hung on for dear life. Full marks for the 2 points.

    Getting a little bit of breathing room on the Ducks. Just a bit.

  3. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Well that was fun. Nerve wracking but fun

    Brutal for Sekera but is it encouraging he came back for a few shifts?

    Good for Russell! Confidence is a thing!

  4. theDjdj says:

    Russell adds to the growing consternation around his value to the team.

  5. treevojo says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    treevojo,

    He’s still had a really good game. Lots of jump and chances tonight.

    Ya I thought he was good tonight.

    Just not that killer instinct around the net.

    I used to think of Hall as the bull and eberle as the matador.

    Hall would create all the chaos and eberle would be so calm and cool under pressure.

  6. --hudson-- says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    Well that was fun. Nerve wracking but fun

    Brutal for Sekera but is it encouraging he came back for a few shifts?

    Hopefully just a bruise, if it was a break don’t think he would’ve come back

  7. hunter1909 says:

    Hunter1909 Death March 2016-17 Update:

    With tonight’s W Oilers are on course for 99.475 points

    Death March players with 99 points are:

    Gordies Elbow
    Shane
    Cahoon
    Oilhub
    Zelepukin
    MRSAKICH
    Stush18
    Judgedrude
    Nate780

  8. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Goals scored by Dreamy and the Misfit Toys (Gryba, Nuge, Russell). Next game out, let’s get Lucic and Eberle on the scoresheet (I know they had assists tonight but goals, I mean).

  9. cc says:

    PhrankLee,

    A year to settle in??

  10. Ice Sage says:

    hunter1909:
    Hunter1909 Death March 2016-17 Update:

    With tonight’s W Oilers are on course for 99.475 points

    Death March players with 99 points are:

    Gordies Elbow
    Shane
    Cahoon
    Oilhub
    Zelepukin
    MRSAKICH
    Stush18
    Judgedrude
    Nate780

    Seems like a popular number… for some reason…

  11. jzed says:

    Working so just saw goal highlights, 2 points, short on D, here I am quibbling about game management and the boys produce. Channeling Yukon Jack, I’ll just shut my big yap!

  12. fifthcartel says:

    Klefbom is incredible.

  13. treevojo says:

    hunter1909:
    Hunter1909 Death March 2016-17 Update:

    With tonight’s W Oilers are on course for 99.475 points

    Death March players with 99 points are:

    Gordies Elbow
    Shane
    Cahoon
    Oilhub
    Zelepukin
    MRSAKICH
    Stush18
    Judgedrude
    Nate780

    Why don’t you show those sitting at 101 pts cause after next game that’s what we will be looking at.

  14. hunter1909 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    Eberle hurt Trochek when Trochek tried to hit him. Gryba scoring. What is going on?!

    Eberle handled Jagr in a dangerous scoring position 10 feet away from Talbot.

    McDavid played inspired against an excellent Panther team. The game easily might have been 4-3 Florida.

  15. hunter1909 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    Goals scored by Dreamy and the Misfit Toys (Gryba, Nuge, Russell). Next game out, let’s get Lucic and Eberle on the scoresheet (I know they had assists tonight but goals, I mean).

    Eberle RNH + Lucic are McLennan’s “Special Needs” line.

  16. delooper says:

    Florida announcers can’t stop overflowing with compliments for McDavid.

  17. treevojo says:

    treevojo: Ya I thought he was good tonight.

    Just not that killer instinct around the net.

    I used to think of Hall as the bull and eberle as the matador.

    Hall would create all the chaos and eberle would be so calm and cool under pressure.

    Now we have mcdavid.

    He is the bull and the matador.

    Fuck we are so lucky.

    What a player.

  18. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    hunter1909: Eberle handled Jagr in a dangerous scoring position 10 feet away from Talbot.

    McDavid played inspired against an excellent Panther team. The game easily might have been 4-3 Florida.

    Yes. I did not mean this as a criticism. It was tongue-in-cheek because Eberle is “soft” and Gyba doesn’t score.

    Team played a good game.The 3rd was a mess but it was a character-building kind of win. Injuries to two of their top 3D, a late goal in the 2nd to hurt their momentum and then Florida flying to start the 3rd. The McDavid counter and the Russell goal…this team can just turn it around on the counterattack like the Doug Weight days. If we could find a Marchant-style speedster to go with McDavid we might reach the next level.

  19. npanciroli says:

    Couldn’t watch, sounds like we outplayed them for the most part?

  20. striatic says:

    treevojo: Now we have mcdavid.

    He is the bull and the matador.

    Fuck we are so lucky.

    What a player.

    Beautiful metaphor.

    Do you remember where you were when the Oilers won that lottery?

    I sure do, but mostly the memory is of cackling maniacally for the next 15 minutes.

  21. hunter1909 says:

    delooper:
    Florida announcers can’t stop overflowing with compliments for McDavid.

    Florida play a great style nice and clean so Oilers could intimidate them a little.

    Lots of skill on both teams. Now: Let’s get an Oilers Panthers final : p

  22. JDï™ says:

    striatic: Do you remember where you were when the Oilers won that lottery?

    Sitting at the kitchen table, typing ‘woooooooooooot’ a lot.

  23. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    npanciroli,

    First two periods, yes. Third we ran out of gas and healthy D-men, but one McDavid-led counter attack resulted in a goal and then it was a team effort playing D to hang on to that lead. Well played game.

  24. npanciroli says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

    Good to hear, thanks!

  25. delooper says:

    npanciroli:
    Couldn’t watch, sounds like we outplayed them for the most part?

    That’s not what I saw. Florida played really well. Edmonton didn’t really outplay them. . . except well, there’s that McDavid guy.

    It looked to me like Edmonton was a slightly weaker team but Florida had no answer to 97.

  26. Todd Macallan says:

    TMac just said Seksy was “more of a soft tissue thing that anything else, see how he is tomorrow.” Fits with likely a bad bruise, as was mentioned above, no way he comes back even for 1 shift if it is something more serious like a fracture.

    Even if he misses 1 or 2 games from soreness, I’ll go ahead and say bullet dodged. BOOK IT.

  27. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    The team now has some good size sprinkled through its lineup. Thought Khaira played well but didn’t get much ice time in the 3rd.

    I liked the “special needs” line tonight, too.

    I’d like to pick up a bit more speed and skill now that we have the size. Hemsky is back skating. Get him back for a 5th round pick?

  28. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    delooper,

    Really? Oilers were playing well the first two periods, especially period two, I thought. Hmm. Agree 3rd was tilted in Florida’s favor by a lot.

  29. treevojo says:

    striatic: Beautiful metaphor.

    Do you remember where you were when the Oilers won that lottery?

    I sure do, but mostly the memory is of cackling maniacally for 15 minutes.

    Yes I do

    At a buddy’s house who is a huge maple leafs fan getting ready to watch a UFC.

    It was awesome.

    Still remember my phone blowing up.

  30. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Sekera and Larsson are why you need a minimum of 8 NHL capable D.

    If the return on Davidson isn’t really good I hope they don’t trade him. I mean, if all they can get is a 3rd rounder, well, consider that a 3rd rounder spent on a rental and keep him in the fold.

  31. Oil2Oilers says:

    fifthcartel:
    Klefbom is incredible.

    Agreed, since Xmas he is looking like a legit #1 defenseman. About his 150th game.

  32. Chachi says:

    Nice coaching job by McLellan and his staff tonight.

  33. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Chachi:
    Nice coaching job by McLellan and his staff tonight.

    Yup. As much as they deserved some criticism for last night they did a very good job tonight. Much better game plan. Looked like a lot more variety to their zone entires, too.

  34. Surly says:

    Just nice to have the ANA/BOS game on after and watching with some interest given there might actually be a home advantage on the line in the first round of the playoffs. A far cry from where we normally are this time of year…analyzing how Nolan Patrick looked in his 1G/1A effort in the afternoon game against the Hitmen.

  35. Chachi says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Yup. As much as they deserved some criticism for last night they did a very good job tonight. Much better game plan. Looked like a lot more variety to their zone entires, too.

    An injury to minute munchers like Sekera and Larsson in the middle of games throws the back end into chaos like a 1986 Camaro Z28 accelerating on ice without a sandbag in the trunk. It takes a light touch and steely determination to get it back on track without ending up in a snow bank. They did a much better job of it tonight.

  36. Scungilli says:

    Nice win, typical Oilers beat the better team.

    “Sounds like Adam Larsson’s back seized up early in the third. ”

    My greatest fear. He is constantly pushing players while off balance and battling hard in the boards but not always with a mind to long term sustainability IMO.

    He’s young and I think likely stronger than average, and has got away with it, but it will not last IMO. The best players who have long careers learn early how to be effective and still protect the body.

    Upright position, close to the boards, battle hard but don’t leave yourself open to risky play until it is needed. No team can win the Cup without the best players being healthy enough.

  37. delooper says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    delooper,

    Really? Oilers were playing well the first two periods, especially period two, I thought. Hmm. Agree 3rd was tilted in Florida’s favor by a lot.

    uhm. . . I only saw the 3rd period.

  38. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Chachi,

    Yup, although the Larsson injury came later in the game than Sekera’s and the Oilers began yesterday poorly (even with Larsson playing well and making a few excellent defensive plays) and played poorly almost throughout the whole game. Tonight was much better. Full marks to TMac and crew for making it work.

  39. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    delooper: uhm. . . I only saw the 3rd period.

    Oh. Ha ha. That explains it.

  40. Rondo says:

    Imagine if Oilers had a goal scorer , it would make McDavid life easier. They all collapse on him and they are not that worried ho he passes too. That is the same problem with the 2nd line when Hall played with RNH and Eberle teams would focus on Hall giving RNH and Eberle more space. This team wiill have problems scoring in the playoffs as the team is at the moment.

  41. treevojo says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    Sekera and Larsson are why you need a minimum of 8 NHL capable D.

    If the return on Davidson isn’t really good I hope they don’t trade him. I mean, if all they can get is a 3rd rounder, well, consider that a 3rd rounder spent on a rental and keep him in the fold.

    Ya I only trade Davidson for a rhd with similar abilities.

    4 lefties and 4 righties for the playoffs would be nice.

  42. Scungilli says:

    I will also take the chance to step up on the soap box and say how foolish the emphasis on blocking all shots is. Stand up in the lane and let them hit the pads – good. Turn sideways, try to make a save, crouch, get the stick in front of shots but a few feet back so that it deflects like a tip, bad. Or worse injures somebody.

  43. Surgeons Knot says:

    striatic,

    Absolutely. I jumped around like a little kid and my lovely wife decided to start filming me about 5 seconds after they flipped the gold card. Apologies if this is spam, but maybe watching a grown man scream like a little girl will bring you all some joy. Turns out this may have been an under-reaction given how good McDavid actually is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVJSCGJ4_LU

  44. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    treevojo: Ya I only trade Davidson for a rhd with similar abilities.

    4 lefties and 4 righties for the playoffs would be nice.

    We might have been looking at that player tonight.

  45. treevojo says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: We might have been looking at that player tonight.

    Ekblad?

    LOL

  46. treevojo says:

    Surgeons Knot:
    striatic,

    Absolutely.I jumped around like a little kid and my lovely wife decided to start filming me about 5 seconds after they flipped the gold card. Apologies if this is spam, but maybe watching a grown man scream like a little girl will bring you all some joy. Turns out this may have been an under-reaction given how good McDavid actually is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVJSCGJ4_LU

    I remember seeing this before.

    Your kinda famous.

  47. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Surgeons Knot:
    striatic,

    Absolutely.I jumped around like a little kid and my lovely wife decided to start filming me about 5 seconds after they flipped the gold card. Apologies if this is spam, but maybe watching a grown man scream like a little girl will bring you all some joy. Turns out this may have been an under-reaction given how good McDavid actually is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVJSCGJ4_LU

    Two years ago at this time of year I was wrapping up my stint in Toronto where I had done one last contract job in finance as a senior trader and training staff on how to trade international equities and portfolio trading. (A month later I would embark on the journey to being a photographer). I decided to spring for two tickets in the lower bowl for the HNIC Oilers at Leafs game.

    My sister was in law school at the time and did not care for hockey unless it was Team Canada so she did not join me. So I traded my two tix to a scalper to get one gold seat in row 3. At this point my outlay was something like $375 or something silly like that.

    I’ve spent money on the Oilers before (at MSG, flying from Tokyo to Edmonton for Game 3 of SCF ’06, etc.) but on this night, with the Leafs the laughingstock of the League, I thought hey, why not. The Oilers played the worst game I had ever seen them play live. It was 5-0 at one point in the 2nd and I switched from beer to hard liquor, several shots. They had a silent auction for charity and one of the items was a Connor McDavid Erie Otters jersey, signed. So I bid on it, thinking he would become a Leaf and it would be worth something some day if I won. I did not expect to win it.

    But I did. And then lo and behold, we won the lottery. And I have a signed 97 Otters jersey. Oh, when I factor in the tickets, the booze, the jersey cost, well, it certainly wasn’t cheap. But as the credit card company says…’Priceless.”

    It’s kind of like life as an Oiler fan in a nutshell. Brutal, just brutal, and then you are handed hope. 🙂

  48. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    treevojo: Ekblad?

    LOL

    At that contract? Pass. 😉

  49. Surgeons Knot says:

    NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker": Two years ago at this time of year I was wrapping up my stint in Toronto where I had done one last contract job in finance as a senior trader and training staff on how to trade international equities and portfolio trading. (A month later I would embark on the journey to being a photographer). I decided to spring for two tickets in the lower bowl for the HNIC Oilers at Leafs game.

    My sister was in law school at the time and did not care for hockey unless it was Team Canada so she did not join me. So I traded my two tix to a scalper to get one gold seat in row 3. At this point my outlay was something like $375 or something silly like that.

    I’ve spent money on the Oilers before (at MSG, flying from Tokyo to Edmonton for Game 3 of SCF ’06, etc.) but on this night, with the Leafs the laughingstock of the League, I thought hey, why not. The Oilers played the worst game I had ever seen them play live. It was 5-0 at one point in the 2nd and I switched from beer to hard liquor, several shots. They had a silent auction for charity and one of the items was a Connor McDavid Erie Otters jersey, signed. So I bid on it, thinking he would become a Leaf and it would be worth something some day if I won. I did not expect to win it.

    But I did. And then lo and behold, we won the lottery. And I have a signed 97 Otters jersey. Oh, when I factor in the tickets, the booze, the jersey cost, well, it certainly wasn’t cheap. But as the credit card company says…’Priceless.”

    It’s kind of like life as an Oiler fan in a nutshell. Brutal, just brutal, and then you are handed hope.

    I was at that game in Toronto as well. Morgan Rielly made us look silly and Gazdic broke the shutout with like 2 seconds left in the game. It cost a fortune to be there and I was so upset with how the boys played. But those days are behind us now…

  50. admiralmark says:

    Extremely encouraging game tonight. When was the last time the Oilers were scored on in the 1st and last minute of a period and STILL win?! Those goals were signs of a losing game for the longest i can remember. When you also throw in the fact Larsson and Sekera were out of the game? This team has become a competitive team again. 🙂

  51. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Surgeons Knot: I was at that game in Toronto as well. Morgan Rielly made us look silly and Gazdic broke the shutout with like 2 seconds left in the game. It cost a fortune to be there and I was so upset with how the boys played. But those days are behind us now…

    Yeah, that was the one. Thank the Gords and McDavid those days are gone.

  52. treevojo says:

    NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker": Two years ago at this time of year I was wrapping up my stint in Toronto where I had done one last contract job in finance as a senior trader and training staff on how to trade international equities and portfolio trading. (A month later I would embark on the journey to being a photographer). I decided to spring for two tickets in the lower bowl for the HNIC Oilers at Leafs game.

    My sister was in law school at the time and did not care for hockey unless it was Team Canada so she did not join me. So I traded my two tix to a scalper to get one gold seat in row 3. At this point my outlay was something like $375 or something silly like that.

    I’ve spent money on the Oilers before (at MSG, flying from Tokyo to Edmonton for Game 3 of SCF ’06, etc.) but on this night, with the Leafs the laughingstock of the League, I thought hey, why not. The Oilers played the worst game I had ever seen them play live. It was 5-0 at one point in the 2nd and I switched from beer to hard liquor, several shots. They had a silent auction for charity and one of the items was a Connor McDavid Erie Otters jersey, signed. So I bid on it, thinking he would become a Leaf and it would be worth something some day if I won. I did not expect to win it.

    But I did. And then lo and behold, we won the lottery. And I have a signed 97 Otters jersey. Oh, when I factor in the tickets, the booze, the jersey cost, well, it certainly wasn’t cheap. But as the credit card company says…’Priceless.”

    It’s kind of like life as an Oiler fan in a nutshell. Brutal, just brutal, and then you are handed hope.

    I didn’t post then but I remember reading the comments.

    It’s funny how some things stick in your memory.

    I think you were looking for someone to take that ticket off your hands if they bought you a drink at the game.

  53. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    treevojo: I didn’t post then but I remember reading the comments.

    It’s funny how some things stick in your memory.

    I think you were looking for someone to take that ticket off your hands if they bought you a drink at the game.

    Yeah, it was a free ticket in exchange for a beer. No one took me up on that offer. Good memory!

  54. Gordies Elbow says:

    Ice Sage: Seems like a popular number… for some reason…

    Easy.

    I picked the “under”.

  55. Bank Shot says:

    Good for Nuge. Hopefully he scores 15 more down the stretch. 😀

  56. striatic says:

    NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker": So I bid on it, thinking he would become a Leaf and it would be worth something some day if I won.

    Lottery day the only thing I could think about was how much I did not want him to become a Leaf. Anybody but the Leafs or the Flames and I would have been happy. Yes, even Vancouver.

    I had put no thought at all toward McDavid being an Oiler other than that the Oilers did not deserve McDavid and that it would be bad for the league if the Oilers management were allowed to draft and develop him.

    Thankfully the house was cleared shortly thereafter.

    Go Bruins.

  57. striatic says:

    With Adidas announcing no Third Jerseys next year, are the Oilers going orange full time?

  58. treevojo says:

    striatic:
    With Adidas announcing no Third Jerseys next year, are the Oilers going orange full time?

    I believe so

  59. VanIsleOil says:

    striatic: Beautiful metaphor.

    Do you remember where you were when the Oilers won that lottery?

    I sure do, but mostly the memory is of cackling maniacally for the next 15 minutes.

    I was at the wonderful watering hole Bar La Playa in Puerto Valllarta sipping premium cocktails with my wife when my son texted me with the draft lottery news. The rate of cocktail consumption accelerated greatly with the news that night and I could not stop grinning for no particular reason for two days.

  60. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    godot10:
    FWIW:I am opposed to acquiring Shattenkirk.He will never be value for money, especially with Benning around.

    I like my defensemen to actually be able to play defense, and don’t like paying for power play points.

    If one is going to acquire that type of defensemen, trade Nugent-Hopkins for Justin Faulk, who is on a much more affordable contract, and Derek Ryan.

    It would help to know that Shattenkirk has some of the best shot suppression stats on STL.

    This year:
    Player CA60
    CARL.GUNNARSSON 44.39
    KEVIN.SHATTENKIRK 46.35
    ROBERT.BORTUZZO 48.28
    COLTON.PARAYKO 50.99
    JAY.BOUWMEESTER 52.8
    ALEX.PIETRANGELO 52.81
    JOEL.EDMUNDSON 55.76

    Player SCA60
    ROBERT.BORTUZZO 4.39
    CARL.GUNNARSSON 5.15
    KEVIN.SHATTENKIRK 5.84
    COLTON.PARAYKO 6.33
    ALEX.PIETRANGELO 7.29
    JAY.BOUWMEESTER 7.40
    JOEL.EDMUNDSON 8.27

    Player GA60
    ROBERT.BORTUZZO 1.88
    CARL.GUNNARSSON 2.06
    JOEL.EDMUNDSON 2.11
    KEVIN.SHATTENKIRK 2.32
    ALEX.PIETRANGELO 2.32
    COLTON.PARAYKO 2.51
    JAY.BOUWMEESTER 2.67

    Some of that has to do with QoC, but certainly not all of it.

    STL TOI% Elite for Dmen:

    Bouwmeester 42%
    Pietrangelo 40%
    Parayko 32%
    Shattenkirk 27%
    Edmundson 26%
    Gunnarsson 24%
    Bortuzzo 24%

    About a 2RD level for sure, maybe more is possible as well.

    Here`s his most common partners this year and their CF% results.

    I`ve put his partners CF% away from Shattenkirk in brackets:

    Player TOI CF%
    SHATTENKIRK, KEVIN 924min 53.0%
    GUNNARSSON, CARL 394min 51.6% (49.8)
    BOUWMEESTER, JAY 130min 52.6% (48.2)
    BORTUZZO, ROBERT 111min 56.1% (52)
    HUNT, BRAD 97min 52.9% (71% in 15 min)
    PARAYKO, COLTON 71min 52.3% (51.3)
    PIETRANGELO, ALEX 63min 62.9% (50)
    EDMUNDSON, JOEL 50min 46.7% (48.8)

    So everyone is better with him (except for micro sample Hunt) including top pairing Pietrangelo and Bouwmeester.

    His most common partner this year is not a healthy scratch and he still put up decent results with him.

    He can play D just fine.

  61. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Barcs: Worth noting here that Edmundson is a RHS playing his off side. Most likely impacts his Corsi Rel.

    **insert Woodguy handedness joke here.

    Can`t believe I missed that.

  62. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    treevojo: Bruce Wayne,

    I hope you guys found it as funny as I did that you both replied to the same post at the same time.

    Hopefully mcdavid shows up angry as fuck tonight and scores a hatty.

    Well, you mentioned one poster being down on him and I agreed with how many were getting painted with a broad brush based on few.

    I have a big problem with non-specific criticisms because usually I didn`t say was I was reported to have said.

    Its usually just the poster `thinking` I had written those things.

    When pressed for evidence, there is usually none.

  63. unca miltie says:

    There is something going on with this team. They are winning games we expect them to lose. Exceeding expectations frequently. Is it that ever elusive chemistry? Lt says it is not balance. What would e needed to make a playoff run? stand pat? Get a centre or a winger? shattenkirk?

    All I know is I like it.

  64. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    unca miltie,

    Would not mind Shattenkirk if price is indeed reasonable, and Hemsky back.

  65. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Didn’t have the opportunity to watch live, but did just finish the game.

    Biggest difference between last nights game was FLA’s n-zone pressure and pressure at the blue line was significantly less than TBY.

    Oilers, esp. 97 and 93’s lines were able to carry the puck through the neutral zone and actually gain the blue with the puck on the stick.

    Many, many more sorties with a shot resulted and you saw it in the numbers as the Oilers was the DFF and Score adjusted shot war .

    As per GMoney:

    Game stats:
    CF% = 48.0
    SACF% = 51.3 😎
    FF% = 48.2
    DFF% = 51.8 🤓
    SF% = 52.4
    (All) FOW% = 47.8

    I’m really surprised how easily FLA gave up the blue line given their hot run and playoff position.

    Favorite stat of the night:

    19-97-29 vs Barkov-Huberdeau-Methuselah ended with 97’s line having 65% CF, even with score effects in the 3rd.

    EDIT: Huge miss here by me. Huby was 65%, not 97. Read the table backwards.

    Damn spreadsheets!!!

  66. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    I guess they changed credit on Gryba’s goal to Kassian?

  67. treevojo says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Well, you mentioned one poster being down on him and I agreed with how many were getting painted with a broad brush based on few.

    I have a big problem with non-specific criticisms because usually I didn`t say was I was reported to have said.

    Its usually just the poster `thinking` I had written those things.

    When pressed for evidence, there is usually none.

    You only became part of the “intellectual” crowd when you chose to defend it calling bullshit.

    It was more of a call out to a poster who referred to himself and people like him as intellectuals. He has had multiple names. Hence the “crowd” term.

    It was meant as a joke for the long and continued Lucic bashing.

    I wasn’t trying to paint a group with a wide brush at all.

  68. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Didn’t have the opportunity to watch live, but did just finish the game.

    Biggest difference between last nights game was FLA’s n-zone pressure and pressure at the blue line was significantly less than TBY.

    Oilers, esp. 97 and 93’s lines were able to carry the puck through the neutral zone and actually gain the blue with the puck on the stick.

    Many, many more sorties with a shot resulted and you saw it in the numbers as the Oilers was the DFF and Score adjusted shot war .

    As per GMoney:

    Game stats:
    CF% = 48.0
    SACF% = 51.3
    FF% = 48.2
    DFF% = 51.8
    SF% = 52.4
    (All) FOW% = 47.8

    I’m really surprised how easily FLA gave up the blue line given their hot run and playoff position.

    Favorite stat of the night:

    19-97-29 vs Barkov-Huberdeau-Methuselah ended with 97’s line having 65% CF, even with score effects in the 3rd.

    That last part is amazing because it seemed like power vs. power they were evenly matched. The eyes deceive. I guess old man Jagr line was more effective against the other lines then.

    Also, when you said you did not get a chance to watch the game live, you meant you did not get to watch your spreadsheet make counts live, right? 😉

  69. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Weird night for the D:

    Player 5v5 TOI CF%
    Brandon Davidson 18:58 63.0%
    Matthew Benning 24:36 54.9%
    Eric Gryba 15:55 54.6%
    Oscar Klefbom 24:37 42.2%
    Kris Russell 18:18 37.84%
    Andrej Sekera 6:04 33.33%

  70. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    treevojo,

    I thought today was Nuge bashing day. He scored. Lucic bashing day is coming up this weekend.

  71. Ryan says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    unca miltie,

    Would not mind Shattenkirk if price is indeed reasonable, and Hemsky back.

    Fvck it, we’re not going to win the cup this year, but am I the only one who would love to have Jagr for the playoffs?

  72. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: That last part is amazing because it seemed like power vs. power they were evenly matched. The eyes deceive. I guess old man Jagr line was more effective against the other lines then.

    Also, when you said you did not get a chance to watch the game live, you meant you did not get to watch your spreadsheet make counts live, right?

    That’s right.

    I wasn’t able to watch the spreadsheet update live, but had to wait and just look at the results.

  73. hunter1909 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I’m really surprised how easily FLA gave up the blue line given their hot run and playoff position.

    I saw more than once when one of the Panthers bounced off one of the Oiler’s players.

    That nasty little cross check early on was also telling the Panthers to wait an extra few thousands of a second when going head to head with most of the Oilers tonight.

    Then there was McDavid, obviously inspired by Barkov/Jagr etc. A classic performance that had the Florida broadcast crew salivating for the whole game.

    Finally. It appears they need another quality defenseman, with the two top end ones out. Any ideas?

  74. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    The D group played well. Oscar was high event and culpable on two goals against but he also contributed a lot, including his goal. He was moving the puck well, too.

    Benning had his wobbles but he got a lot of Sekera’s minutes and handled them with aplomb, I thought.

    Gryba was solid in limited minutes. Davidson looked good. And Russell scored the winner.

    Good job by those guys tonight losing 2 and not having 6.

  75. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    treevojo: You only became part of the “intellectual” crowd when you chose to defend it calling bullshit.

    It was more of a call out to a poster who referred to himself and people like him as intellectuals. He has had multiple names. Hence the “crowd” term.

    It was meant as a joke for the long and continued Lucic bashing.

    I wasn’t trying to paint a group with a wide brush at all.

    I did choose to jump in, so I’ll own that.

    “crowd” is a wide brush and quoting a poster and questioning their take is better to do in this case.

    No one is a proxy for all people who use fancystats.

    I argue with Batman more than most and many would lump us together.

    Mind you, I argue with Batman because he’ll read the argument and respond based on the merits of the argument, and that is always refreshing.

    edit: that last bit sounds like a a shot at you and its not.

    Re-read the post and it comes off that way a bit. Not intended at at all.

  76. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Ryan: Fvck it, we’re not going to win the cup this year, but am I the only one who would love to have Jagr for the playoffs?

    Oh would love to have him. Not sure why Florida would trade him though as they are in the thick of the race again.

  77. Ryan says:

    Woodguy v2.0: That’s right.

    I wasn’t able to watch the spreadsheet update live, but had to wait and just look at the results.

    Step away from your laptop for a second.

    Knowing that the Oilers will not win the cup this year… how cool would it be as a fan of the game of hockey for Jagr to play RW for McDavid?

  78. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

    The D group played well. Oscar was high event and culpable on two goals against but he also contributed a lot, including his goal. He was moving the puck well, too.

    That’s been Dreamy’s Achilles heel for his career so far.

    Looks great at many things, but his brain farts end up in the net a lot. Probably at a higher rate than most due to his QoC

  79. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Ryan,

    Jagr loves Hemmer, too, so get him and seal the deal, if we are spitballing.

    Jagr-McDavid-Hemsky
    Maroon-Draisaitl-Slepyshev
    Lucic-Nuge-Eberle
    Pouliot-Letestu-Kassian

    Klef-Larsson
    Sekera-Shattenkirk
    Nurse-Benning

    Talbot
    Nilsson

    🙂

  80. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Ryan: Step away from your laptop for a second.

    Knowing that the Oilers will not win the cup this year… how cool would it be as a fan of the game of hockey for Jagr to play RW for McDavid?

    Jagr couldn’t keep up on the rush.

    Would be awesome to watch them cycle together.

  81. Ryan says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Oh would love to have him. Not sure why Florida would trade him though as they are in the thick of the race again.

    The smart play by the computer boys would be to trade him for an asset. They’re in a tight race to make the playoffs and unlikely to do much if they make it. Agreed that they may keep him especially since they close out the month against Calgary, Ottawa, and Carolina–all winnable games.

  82. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    hunter1909: I saw more than once when one of the Panthers bounced off one of the Oiler’s players.

    That nasty little cross check early on was also telling the Panthers to wait an extra few thousands of a second when going head to head with most of the Oilers tonight.

    Then there was McDavid, obviously inspired by Barkov/Jagr etc. A classic performance that had the Florida broadcast crew salivating for the whole game.

    Finally. It appears they need another quality defenseman, with the two top end ones out. Any ideas?

    I liked Lucic’s dirty bump on Petrovic that ended up helping RNH’s goal.

    Perry does that shit all game and gets away with it Because Vet.

    Pretty sure Lucic was just getting him back for a good hit Petrovic laid on him, but ended up helping with a goal.

    Angry, dirty Lucic is the Lucic that this team needs.

  83. treevojo says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I did choose to jump in, so I’ll own that.

    “crowd” is a wide brush and quoting a poster and questioning their take is better to do in this case.

    No on is a proxy for all people who use fancystats.

    I argue with Batman more than most and many would lump us together.

    Mind you, I argue with Batman because he’ll read the argument and respond based on the merits of the argument, and that is always refreshing.

    I chose the words intellectual crowd on purpose.

    Sometimes my sarcasm doesn’t come acrossed as well in print as well as it does in my head.

    I will try to be better.

  84. Ryan says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Jagr couldn’t keep up on the rush.

    Would be awesome to watch them cycle together.

    No question. Deployment would be important.

    McDavid is my favorite hockey player today. Jagr is one of my all-time favorites.

    I never underestimate the value of mentoring either.

  85. Ryan says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    Ryan,

    Jagr loves Hemmer, too, so get him and seal the deal, if we are spitballing.

    Jagr-McDavid-Hemsky
    Maroon-Draisaitl-Slepyshev
    Lucic-Nuge-Eberle
    Pouliot-Letestu-Kassian

    Klef-Larsson
    Sekera-Shattenkirk
    Nurse-Benning

    Talbot
    Nilsson

    🙂

    If Hemsky is healthy, having him back would be insanely awesome. We have no depth on RW whatsoever.

  86. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I liked Lucic’s dirty bump on Petrovic that ended up helping RNH’s goal.

    Perry does that shit all game and gets away with it Because Vet.

    Pretty sure Lucic was just getting him back for a good hit Petrovic laid on him, but ended up helping with a goal.

    Angry, dirty Lucic is the Lucic that this team needs.

    I expected angry, dirty Lucic to show up way more often than he has. He is way too young to have mellowed this much.

  87. Ryan says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I liked Lucic’s dirty bump on Petrovic that ended up helping RNH’s goal.

    Perry does that shit all game and gets away with it Because Vet.

    Pretty sure Lucic was just getting him back for a good hit Petrovic laid on him, but ended up helping with a goal.

    Angry, dirty Lucic is the Lucic that this team needs.

    I loved that play since it epitomizes what typically happens to the Oilers rather than what they make happen to other teams.

  88. Chachi says:

    treevojo: I chose the words intellectual crowd on purpose.

    Sometimes my sarcasm doesn’t come acrossed as well in print as well as it does in my head.

    I will try to be better.

    I knew what you were talking about right away. You post real good.

  89. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Lowetide,

    Put another way, RNH, for his career, which includes playing with Taylor Hall, posted a 1.60/60 5×5 scoring rate from 2011-16. I believe he began playing toughest minutes once Horcoff left, meaning from fall 2013 on.
    From 2013-16, excluding this season but including all Hall minutes in those seasons, Nuge was 1.62 per 60. This would (I believe) have RNH playing toughest minutes.

    With his goal tonight, RNH’s 5v5 pts/60 in the last 25 games is……

    ………..

    wait for it………..

    1.59

    This is RNH.

  90. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Chachi: I expected angry, dirty Lucic to show up way more often than he has. He is way too young to have mellowed this much.

    I read things far too literally to pick up on that.

    Sorry if I missed it entirely.

  91. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    treevojo: I chose the words intellectual crowd on purpose.

    Sometimes my sarcasm doesn’t come acrossed as well in print as well as it does in my head.

    I will try to be better.

    *whooosh*

    That was me missing that entirely.

    I do that a lot.

    Sorry

  92. treevojo says:

    Woodguy v2.0: *whooosh*

    That was me missing that entirely.

    I do that a lot.

    Sorry

    No worries.

    Hopefully you find it a little more humorous now.

  93. JDï™ says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Angry, dirty Lucic is the Lucic that this team needs.

    FU/60.

  94. godot10 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: It would help to know that Shattenkirk has some of the best shot suppression stats on STL.

    This year:
    PlayerCA60
    CARL.GUNNARSSON44.39
    KEVIN.SHATTENKIRK46.35
    ROBERT.BORTUZZO48.28
    COLTON.PARAYKO50.99
    JAY.BOUWMEESTER52.8
    ALEX.PIETRANGELO52.81
    JOEL.EDMUNDSON55.76

    PlayerSCA60
    ROBERT.BORTUZZO4.39
    CARL.GUNNARSSON5.15
    KEVIN.SHATTENKIRK5.84
    COLTON.PARAYKO6.33
    ALEX.PIETRANGELO7.29
    JAY.BOUWMEESTER7.40
    JOEL.EDMUNDSON8.27

    PlayerGA60
    ROBERT.BORTUZZO1.88
    CARL.GUNNARSSON2.06
    JOEL.EDMUNDSON2.11
    KEVIN.SHATTENKIRK2.32
    ALEX.PIETRANGELO2.32
    COLTON.PARAYKO2.51
    JAY.BOUWMEESTER2.67

    Some of that has to do with QoC, but certainly not all of it.

    STL TOI% Elite for Dmen:

    Bouwmeester 42%
    Pietrangelo 40%
    Parayko 32%
    Shattenkirk 27%
    Edmundson 26%
    Gunnarsson 24%
    Bortuzzo 24%

    About a 2RD level for sure, maybe more is possible as well.

    Here`s his most common partners this year and their CF% results.

    I`ve put his partners CF% away from Shattenkirk in brackets:

    PlayerTOICF%
    SHATTENKIRK, KEVIN 924min 53.0%
    GUNNARSSON, CARL 394min 51.6% (49.8)
    BOUWMEESTER, JAY 130min 52.6% (48.2)
    BORTUZZO, ROBERT 111min 56.1% (52)
    HUNT, BRAD 97min 52.9% (71% in 15 min)
    PARAYKO, COLTON 71min 52.3% (51.3)
    PIETRANGELO, ALEX 63min 62.9% (50)
    EDMUNDSON, JOEL 50min 46.7% (48.8)

    So everyone is better with him (except for micro sample Hunt) including top pairing Pietrangelo and Bouwmeester.

    His most common partner this year is not a healthy scratch and he still put up decent results with him.

    He can play D just fine.

    I’d take 3 years of Faulk at $4.8 million over 7 years of Shattenkirk at $7 million. Shattenkirk would be a $7 million dollar 2nd pairing D, which is not value for money in a hard cap world. Especially with the year Benning has had. Larsson, Benning, Faulk…with a 40%,30%,30% breakdown against elites.

    Klefbom, Larsson
    Sekera, Benning
    Nurse, Faulk
    Davidson/Reinhart

  95. Ryan says:

    10 minutes left and the Ducks have a one goal lead against Boston.

  96. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I read things far too literally to pick up on that.

    Sorry if I missed it entirely.

    If we have to start apologizing for every time we miss the point someone is trying to make on the internet I am just going to go to church and ask the priest in the confessional for a two for one deal on Hail Marys instead.

  97. Diablo says:

    Fun game – Florida’s a very good team that’s fighting for their playoff lives right now – obviously they brought more battle tonight. Getting a win against Florida, on the second night of a back to back, without Larsson and Sekera – can’t find much to complain about tonight.

    I’m more and more impressed with this team’s ability to pull out wins.

    Hoping that Sekera and Larsson get back soon, but it sure is nice to have depth on D – in seasons’ past injuries like this would have sunk the good ship Oil.

  98. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Ryan:
    10 minutes left and the Ducks have a one goal lead against Boston.

    not any more.

  99. oilersfan says:

    http://www.wrongsideoftheredline.com/2017/02/ales-hemsky-getting-closer-to-returning-to-dallas-stars-lineup/

    For my fellow hemsky lovers…this came out today. He may practice with the team tomorrow when they get back from their five day break.

    I bet all those dirty hits from regehr (spits and barfs ) led to this hip injury on ales from wonderland.

    Considering the oilers only got s third when he was 30 and healthy I wonder if he costs more than a sixth or seventh round pick now. Buy low…

  100. Diablo says:

    JDï™: FU/60.

    This is the Lucic that hopefully shows up to the playoffs – on a team full of young players who have never experienced the playoffs, they’ll be leaning heavily on Lucic’s experience.

  101. treevojo says:

    Chachi: I knew what you were talking about right away. You post real good.

    Next time you can be my Coles notes when things start to go sideways.

  102. Gerta Rauss says:

    If Hemsky can still skate I’d love to have him back

    I wouldn’t give anything of value for him though-taking on that contract is payment enough imo

  103. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Manson just laid out Marchand with a great open ice hit. This is a good game, too.

  104. Chachi says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: not any more.

    I can’t tell if Chara has gotten super slow or if his mass just bends time and space so much that he looks slow.

  105. Ryan says:

    godot10: I’d take 3 years of Faulk at $4.8 million over 7 years of Shattenkirk at $7 million.Shattenkirk would be a $7 million dollar 2nd pairing D, which is not value for money in a hard cap world. Especially with the year Benning has had.Larsson, Benning, Faulk…with a 40%,30%,30% breakdown against elites.

    Klefbom, Larsson
    Sekera, Benning
    Nurse, Faulk
    Davidson/Reinhart

    You give me a chance to blow smoke up my ass and I’ll take it every time.

    Was I one of the first here to proclaim Yakupov a draft bust? Yes!
    Did I fight the good fight that Lander has lead boots and was not a 3c many here had him penned him in as? Yes.
    Did I correctly argue against smart people here that Marc Arcobello is not a legit 2nd line centre? Yes! Cough something guy.
    Did I correctly argue mathletes here that Scrivens was done like dinner when he was done like dinner? Yes! Cough some thing money.
    Did I predict a huge downtick in offense from Nuge this season. Yes!

    Do I think Faulk is the goods? Yes!

    Buy buy buy!!!!

  106. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    If Hemsky can still skate I’d love to have him back

    I wouldn’t give anything of value for him though-taking on that contract is payment enough imo

    Was thinking a 5th rounder or so. Experience, speed, skill. And the team is big enough now that having him in the mix won’t hurt. We need more skill on the wings at low cost.

  107. JDï™ says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Manson just laid out Marchand

    And he just made my Christmas card list.

  108. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Chachi: I can’t tell if Chara has gotten super slow or if his mass just bends time and space so much that he looks slow.

    He is slow, but his reach is still blue line to red line so he is still somewhat relevant. Ha ha

  109. Gerta Rauss says:

    godot10,

    I read a couple suggestions that Shattenkirk may be just biding him time until the Nash contract drops off and then he signs with his Rangers

    Would Shattenkirk for 1 or 2 years @ $7m change your opinion on dealing for him…?

    We’d get 3 playoff runs with him

    I’d be tempted

  110. Chachi says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: He is slow, but his reach is still blue line to red line so he is still somewhat relevant. Ha ha

    Ha! Crap! Stupid Boston.

  111. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    damn. late goal for the Ducks

  112. Gerta Rauss says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Was thinking a 5th rounder or so. Experience, speed, skill. And the team is big enough now that having him in the mix won’t hurt. We need more skill on the wings at low cost.

    Yes for sure-I’ve been pimping Hemsky since last summer and was disappointed he injured himself in the WC

    Somebody suggested a swap for Fayne a few days ago-not sure if Dallas does that but it’s intriguing

  113. treevojo says:

    Ryan: You give me a chance to blow smoke up my ass and I’ll take it every time.

    Was I one of the first here to proclaim Yakupov a draft bust? Yes!
    Did I fight the good fight that Lander has lead boots and was not a 3c many here had him penned him in as? Yes.
    Did I argue against smart people here that Marc Arcobello is not a legit 3rd line centre? Yes! Cough something guy.
    Did I argue mathletes here that Scrivens was done like dinner when he was done like dinner? Yes! Cough some thing money.
    Did I predict a huge downtick in offense from Nuge this season. Yes!

    Do I think Faulk is the goods? Yes!

    Buy buy buy!!!!

    Do you have an equally as impressive list of things that didn’t turn out?

    No one bats 1.000

  114. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    If healthy, I’d rather him than Iginla, if that’s really being considered.

  115. Chachi says:

    Cogliano finally figured out how to score on a break away.

  116. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Well, Ducks win. Tonight’s Oilers’ win that much more important in that context.

  117. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Chachi:
    Cogliano finally figured out how to score on a break away.

    QFT.

  118. striatic says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

    For the Bruins as well, since the Oilers prevented the Panthers from gaining on them in points – though Bruins waste the game in hand.

  119. Chachi says:

    treevojo: Do you have an equally as impressive list of things that didn’t turn out?

    No one bats 1.000

    He once made a soufflé that didn’t fall, but was a little bland.

  120. Ryan says:

    treevojo: Do you have an equally as impressive list of things that didn’t turn out?

    No one bats 1.000

    I am thus far correct about Reinhart.

    I am thus far correct that Draisatl is a better offensive centre than Nuge. I went on record here that he had passed Nuge when the consensus here was that Draisatl’s stats were inflated and dependent on Hall.

    I guess I’m on a roll.

  121. Ryan says:

    Chachi: He once made a soufflé that didn’t fall, but was a little bland.

    I am also a legend in my own mind. That and about $5.35 will get me a grande latte at Starbucks.

  122. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    So, next GDT, I am going to bash Lucic and Eberle okay? Everyone get with the program? 😉

  123. treevojo says:

    Ryan: I am thus far correct about Reinhart.

    I am thus far correct that Draisatl is a better offensive centre than Nuge. I went on record here that he had passed Nuge when the consensus here was that Draisatl’s stats were inflated and dependent on Hall.

    I guess I’m on a roll.

    I have to go to bed but if you could jot down your future outlook on Jesse Poo it could be something to track.

    With your roll I hope you say 40 n 40 starting next year.

  124. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Ryan: I am also a legend in my own mind. That and about $5.35 will get me a grande latte at Starbucks.

    is that what they cost in Canada these days? Yikes. I am not a Starbucks person and oh yeah the Loonie is still stuck in that 1.30~1.35 band.

  125. godot10 says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    godot10,

    I read a couple suggestions that Shattenkirk may be just biding him time until the Nash contract drops off and then he signs with his Rangers

    Would Shattenkirk for 1 or 2 years @ $7m change your opinion on dealing for him…?

    We’d get 3 playoff runs with him

    I’d be tempted

    I could live with Shattenkirk for 2 years (or less) at $7 million.

    I’m not opposed to the player, only the likely long term cap cost of the player. Faulk is a similar player at a better price, if a deal could be struck

  126. Chachi says:

    Ryan: I am also a legend in my own mind. That and about $5.35 will get me a grande latte at Starbucks.

    Get an Americano with room for milk. Better bang for your buck.

  127. Ryan says:

    treevojo: I have to go to bed but if you could jot down your future outlook on Jesse Poo it could be something to track.

    With your roll I hope you say 40 n 40 starting next year.

    First of all, I have not made any of this up. Anyone here is free to call me out.

    Sadly, I don’t see JP as 40-40 next season. I do think he’s 100% an NHL hockey player though.

    I see JP as a max 2nd line RW. Maybe 15-20 goals or so and 40-45 points per season.

    I do hope I am wrong and he exceeds my expectations.

  128. Chachi says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: is that what they cost in Canada these days? Yikes. I am not a Starbucks person and oh yeah the Loonie is still stuck in that 1.30~1.35 band.

    Obscene isn’t it?

  129. Chachi says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    So, next GDT, I am going to bash Lucic and Eberle okay? Everyone get with the program? 😉

    Their grandmothers suck eggs.

  130. JDï™ says:

    Chachi: Obscene isn’t it?

    Not if you go for coffee flavored coffee. It’s much more reasonable in that scenario.

  131. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Chachi,

    Obscene is right, when you can make a great cup for a tenth of that cost at home with a percolator or aeropress or whatever. That would be like a bottle of beer being $2 for you to buy at the store and drink at home or paying $20 for it at the bar.

  132. Ryan says:

    Chachi: Get an Americano with room for milk. Better bang for your buck.

    The moral of the story is that Faulk is the goods and If you can buy low, do it.

    Take it and go! Lol

  133. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    JDï™: Not if you go for coffee flavored coffee. It’s much more reasonable in that scenario.

    I remember Starbucks’ coffee-flavoured coffee tasting like bad, burned hot water with a faint aroma of maybe coffee. Has it improved?

  134. Chachi says:

    JDï™: Not if you go for coffee flavored coffee. It’s much more reasonable in that scenario.

    True.

  135. hunter1909 says:

    Checking the NHL scoring race from McDavid through Matt Carle…

    The math doesn’t appear promising for former Oiler Nail Yakupov:

    18 skaters for NHL lineup
    X 30
    ___________________________________
    540 NHL players

    Yakupov’s NHL scoring position currently at 543rd = Soon to be back in Russia starring in the KHL B.U.S.T.

  136. Chachi says:

    Ryan: The moral of the story is that Faulk is the goods and If you can buy low, do it.

    Take it and go! Lol

    From now on I’ll always refer to Faulk as “Americano” That is great.

  137. Chachi says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    Chachi,

    Obscene is right, when you can make a great cup for a tenth of that cost at home with a percolator or aeropress or whatever. That would be like a bottle of beer being $2 for you to buy at the store and drink at home or paying $20 for it at the bar.

    Yup, even a cheap stove top espresso maker can produce a superior cup of coffee.

  138. hunter1909 says:

    Why did Yakupov Bust?

    What it:

    Agent stirring up Lowe+MacT’s little circle of operations?
    Dallas Eakins(100% a factor)
    Yakupov’s parents
    other
    all of the above

    Next: Special Taylor Hall feature where all ex coaches and players are brought back during the playoffs

  139. JDï™ says:

    Chachi: Americano

    In the later hours of most Starbucks locations, you can ask for a ‘pour through’ and they will charge you for a regular coffee.

  140. Chachi says:

    JDï™: In the later hours of most Starbucks locations, you can ask for a ‘pour through’ and they will charge you for a regular coffee.

    That is good to know.

  141. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    JDï™:
    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

    Latte ≠ Coffee.

    I agree. You are talking to someone who drinks espresso/black only, with a rare macchiato after a good Italian meal.
    When you said coffee-flavoured coffee I took it to mean Starbucks’ house blend or whatever it is, which I thought tasted like hot water with some burned coffee flavour back in the day. I do not drink Starbucks if I can at all help it (and I can help it so that means never).

  142. hunter1909 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: I remember Starbucks’ coffee-flavoured coffee tasting like bad, burned hot water with a faint aroma of maybe coffee. Has it improved?

    I’ve only drank coffee at Starbucks while during a film shoot babysitting a smoking hot actress who aged 20 adored everything about Starbucks. 3-4 times every day for about a month.

    I can honestly say, I don’t remember anything about their coffee. Not a single goddamn thing.

  143. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    hunter1909: I’ve only drank coffee at Starbucks while during a film shoot babysitting a smoking hot actress who aged 20 adored everything about Starbucks. 3-4 times every day for about a month.

    I can honestly say, I don’t remember anything about their coffee. Not a single goddamn thing.

    Good man.

  144. JDï™ says:

    Chachi,

    If you ever have to go to work in the late hours, it can be difficult to get a good cup of coffee.

    That is to say that I’m not a corporate coffee protagonist. But try finding a good cup of joe at 9pm.

  145. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    JDï™,

    Do you have a stove handy at work? An old-fashioned percolator works wonders and that aroma will get you going.

  146. Chachi says:

    JDï™:
    Chachi,

    If you ever have to go to work in the late hours, it can be difficult to get a good cup of coffee.

    That is to say that I’m not a corporate coffee protagonist. But try finding a good cup of joe at 9pm.

    I sympathize with this greatly.

  147. JDï™ says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: I do not drink Starbucks if I can at all help it

    Sadly, it’s getting more and more difficult to avoid the corporate bean for the working schlump during his working duties. The mom and pop espresso shops north of Toronto just don’t exist for most muggles.

  148. hunter1909 says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: You are talking to someone who drinks espresso

    Me anywhere abroad: (In heavily barbaric toned English-native speaking accent)
    “Ahhh…une express? Double?”

    Fantastic way to drink coffee.

  149. Chachi says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    JDï™,

    Do you have a stove handy at work? An old-fashioned percolator works wonders and that aroma will get you going.

    Many of the places I have worked wouldn’t allow a toaster in the lunch room never mind a stove.

  150. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    Chachi: Many of the places I have worked wouldn’t allow a toaster in the lunch room never mind a stove.

    Barbarians! 😉

    But really, that’s too bad. These things work great for the price and make the whole room smell delicious:
    https://www.cerinicoffee.com/bialetti-moka-express-espresso-maker/?utm_medium=googleshopping&utm_source=bc&attributes=eyIyNzciOiIxNTc4In0%3D&gclid=CIng067TpdICFUKTfgodpEwFiQ

    I have an espresso machine in storage, too, but that’s been collecting dust for 2 years while I am on the road.

  151. NYCOIL "Gentleman Backpacker" says:

    hunter1909: Me anywhere abroad: (In heavily barbaric toned English-native speaking accent)
    “Ahhh…une express? Double?”

    Fantastic way to drink coffee.

    I see you have been traveling to some great places!

  152. hunter1909 says:

    JDï™:
    Chachi,

    If you ever have to go to work in the late hours, it can be difficult to get a good cup of coffee.

    That is to say that I’m not a corporate coffee protagonist. But try finding a good cup of joe at 9pm.

    Drink chocolate milk instead. Or tea. Or reputable bottled water…anything but soda anything.

  153. Chachi says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Barbarians! 😉

    But really, that’s too bad. These things work great for the price and make the whole room smell delicious:
    https://www.cerinicoffee.com/bialetti-moka-express-espresso-maker/?utm_medium=googleshopping&utm_source=bc&attributes=eyIyNzciOiIxNTc4In0%3D&gclid=CIng067TpdICFUKTfgodpEwFiQ

    I have an espresso machine in storage, too, but that’s been collecting dust for 2 years while I am on the road.

    I have 3 of these. They seem to replicate in my house. They are fantastic.

  154. Chachi says:

    hunter1909: Drink chocolate milk instead. Or tea. Or reputable bottled water…anything but soda anything.

    Chocolate milk? I pegged you as more of a Red Bull kind of guy.

  155. Professor Q says:

    So…any goals taken away from Edmonton tonight?

    It seems as if it’s tradition now.

  156. Professor Q says:

    hunter1909:
    Checking the NHL scoring race from McDavid through Matt Carle…

    The math doesn’t appear promising for former Oiler Nail Yakupov:

    18 skaters for NHL lineup
    X 30
    ___________________________________
    540 NHL players

    Yakupov’s NHL scoring position currently at 543rd = Soon to be back in Russia starring in the KHL B.U.S.T.

    It’s unfortunate. But it happens. Sigh.

  157. blainer says:

    Offence from the D.

    It’s a thing.

    We will continue to win many more games if the D continue to contribute like last night. Just wonderful to see.

    I don’t think it is necessary to acquire a D. We really need a faceoff winning center who can help score and play a 200 ft game and move Nuge up with Connor.

    That is the recipe needed to get us closer to the cup this year. That and health of course.

  158. Yeti says:

    blainer: I don’t think it is necessary to acquire a D. We really need a faceoff winning center who can help score and play a 200 ft game and move Nuge up with Connor.

    Yes. Either that or a strong RW – whichever has the more reasonable acquisition cost for a rental.

  159. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    delooper: uhm. . . I only saw the 3rd period.

    Makes sense then.

    EDM Corgi share by period:

    1st – 48.5
    2nd – 60.6
    3rd – 35.5

    FLA’s big push in the 3rd came before EDM made it 4-3 and then a smaller push after the goal as well.

  160. russ99 says:

    Ol bra and panties is at it again on twitter

    @TreenasOil 2/23/17 12:47am

    Eberle to Islanders trade falls through. Teams still talking,could go multiplayer Davidson and Khara also of interest to the Islanders A P G

    Not sure if this has any credibility at all, whoever Garfield is – all the old boys are gone but MacT.

  161. Pouzar says:

    JDï™: Sitting at the kitchen table, typing ‘woooooooooooot’ a lot.

    When your wife, who knows nothing about sports let alone hockey, hears her husband scream “we won the lottery!!!!!”, there is a certain let down.

  162. Pouzar says:

    NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
    treevojo,

    I thought today was Nuge bashing day. He scored. Lucic bashing day is coming up this weekend.

    For the record, I Nuge “mourn”.
    He is my fav Oiler.

  163. Pouzar says:

    Ryan: You give me a chance to blow smoke up my ass and I’ll take it every time.

    Did I fight the good fight that Lander has lead boots and was not a 3c many here had him penned him in as? Yes.

    Did you LOSE Lander bet with me? Yes!

    *smoke stacks*

  164. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    russ99:
    Ol bra and panties is at it again on twitter

    @TreenasOil2/23/17 12:47am

    Eberle to Islanders trade falls through. Teams still talking,could go multiplayer Davidson and Khara also of interest to the Islanders A P G

    Not sure if this has any credibility at all, whoever Garfield is –all the old boys are gone but MacT.

    I hear Eberle for Strome gets done in the summer.

    I am not wearing a bra, but won’t tell you about the rest of my underwear.

  165. Pouzar says:

    Ryan: Sadly, I don’t see JP as 40-40 next season.

    Sadly?

    4 guys scored 40 or more last year.

  166. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I hear Eberle for Strome gets done in the summer.

    I am not wearing a bra, but won’t tell you about the rest of my underwear.

    🙁

  167. Pouzar says:

    Chachi: Chocolate milk? I pegged you as more of a Red Bull kind of guy.

    Thank Gord.

  168. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Ryan: I am thus far correct about Reinhart.

    I am thus far correct that Draisatl is a better offensive centre than Nuge. I went on record here that he had passed Nuge when the consensus here was that Draisatl’s stats were inflated and dependent on Hall.

    I guess I’m on a roll.

    Draisaitl is:

    1.74pts/60 5v5 away from McDavid this year.
    1.74pts/60 5v5 with McDavid this year

    Last year Drai was:
    2.32pts/60 5v5 with Hall
    1.13pts/60 5v5 away from Hall

    Surely his “away from driver” number has improved substantially and that is great to see.

    The fact that he’s under 2pts/60 playing with McDavid isn’t great.

    I know McLellan likes those two together but they really don’t score more 5v5 than when McDavid has “random RW” there and it lessens the offensive value of the other lines.

  169. Pouzar says:

    blainer: I don’t think it is necessary to acquire a D.

    With you there brutha.

  170. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Ryan: You give me a chance to blow smoke up my ass and I’ll take it every time.

    Was I one of the first here to proclaim Yakupov a draft bust? Yes!
    Did I fight the good fight that Lander has lead boots and was not a 3c many here had him penned him in as? Yes.
    Did I correctly argue against smart people here that Marc Arcobello is not a legit 2nd line centre? Yes! Cough something guy.
    Did I correctly argue mathletes here that Scrivens was done like dinner when he was done like dinner? Yes! Cough some thing money.
    Did I predict a huge downtick in offense from Nuge this season. Yes!

    Do I think Faulk is the goods? Yes!

    Buy buy buy!!!!

    Isn’t the rule about self-ass smoke blowing is that you have link to when you made your proclamations?

    Links to your proclamations please.

  171. Pouzar says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    So I wasn’t far off in my earlier prediction. Not sent down but Slepy is out and Pak is in.
    I figure Slepy will be sent down by 2PM EST today.

    I dream of Khaira-Lander-Slepy

  172. Yeti says:

    Pouzar: When your wife, who knows nothing about sports let alone hockey, hears her husband scream “we won the lottery!!!!!”, there is a certain let down.

    Ha! Brilliant!!

  173. N64 says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Lowetide,

    Put another way, RNH, for his career, which includes playing with Taylor Hall, posted a 1.60/60 5×5 scoring rate from 2011-16. I believe he began playing toughest minutes once Horcoff left, meaning from fall 2013 on.
    From 2013-16, excluding this season but including all Hall minutes in those seasons, Nuge was 1.62 per 60. This would (I believe) have RNH playing toughest minutes.

    With his goal tonight, RNH’s 5v5 pts/60 in the last 25 games is……

    ………..

    wait for it………..

    1.59

    This is RNH.

    Ryan: Did I predict a huge downtick in offense from Nuge this season. Yes!

    Interesting timing. Did you also predict the return to career scoring levels after Christmas? 😉

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