HOME PLATE

by Lowetide

My fascination with Bonnie Raitt began in about 1975. My friend Terry used to buy a magazine called Stereo Review. A man named Julian Hirsch (sp?) would write a monthly tome about new stereo equipment that was so full of high fidelity only dogs knew it existed, and Terry loved that stuff. I liked their album reviews (Noel someone, do not recall his name now, was I believe the writer) because they were straight to the point and tended not to frown on country twang or lyrics that landed on this side of Bob Dylan. Stereo Review loved Bonnie Raitt, and so I bought her music beginning middle 1970s. I gave up Stereo Review about 1978, but Bonnie Raitt still sings to me to this day.

Here’s the thing: Not many of us loved Bonnie Raitt in 1975. She had a cover hit of Del Shannon’s Runaway in the late 1970s (it was not my favorite song of hers) and then she drifted and lost a record deal or two along the way. She would show up from time to time on Austin City Limits and I would always watch, those great vocals and guitar still sounding good.

When Bonnie Raitt hit—and folks, she hit—I had been listening to her music for about 15 years. I thought it was pretty cool, kind of like I was part of an inside secret and the world finally caught up to it. That feeling, watching something grow and build and then find greatness, is what we may be witnessing now. There are no guarantees, the Oilers could let it slip through their fingers (although I am not sure how), but that feeling of being a part of the beginning is here now, today. We are here. Home plate.

NICK OF TIME

I always like to take a few minutes after the deadline to have a good long look at each remaining player and their situation with the team. As we have a couple of mornings this week to do it, I am going to discuss the forwards today and the rest of the roster tomorrow.

CENTER (10)

  • Connor McDavid. Finishing his second year and this summer will no doubt see a contract extension. I think we can agree that year one was a flash, but this season we are seeing the enormity of this player. This is an historic player, in real time, full stop. Not just the franchise, he is the league. He came out of the sky, people. And he landed here. 2.63 5×5/60.
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. A year ago, I feared the Oilers would trade him away because of his subpar season. Now, we are looking at whatever they call a two-year slump and one wonders how much offense Edmonton’s tough minutes center can bring. He is on pace for 41 points this year after a fairly strong recent run. I wonder if he is here in the fall. 1.36 5×5/60.
  • David Desharnais. I am still surprised by Chiarelli’s adding a skill center. Lots of comments on his lack of size, but that isn’t a big thing for me. Rich Peverley wasn’t a big player, and Desharnais is no wallflower. No, this seems to be a genuine effort to right the ship and re-create an offensive line to hammer the soft parade. I cannot wait for Saturday night to see the alignment and do wonder about a possible future in Edmonton (should things go well). Then again, they passed on Derek Roy after a nice run. 1.35 5×5/60.
  • Mark Letestu. He is one of the truly unique Oilers role players in recent history, playing big PP and PK roles while also being a 4C through and through. He may play even less at evens in the coming days. Another year at $1.8M and is a bargain based on this season. 1.59 5×5/60.
  • Anton Lander. He is an RFA and based on Edmonton’s trade deadline activity one suspects he will not be a part of the team moving forward. His AHL boxcars may have appeal to Vegas, they will be looking for helpers making under $1M with some NHL experience. AHL estimate 3.68 5×5/60. Source
  • Henrik Samuelsson. He is RFA and hasn’t done a lot in a short space of time, it would be unfair to suggest he has had enough time to show what he can do in five games. Still, that may not save him for getting walked this summer. AHL estimate 0.24 5×5/60.
  • Jere Sallinen. He is RFA with arb. rights according to CapFriendly, there isn’t much offense (seven points in 46 games) and he may not return. AHL estimate 0.77 5×5/60.
  • Kyle Platzer. A player like Platzer should hope for a change in the weather and a real chance to show what he can do with 15 minutes a night at the AHL level. I don’t think he has received a full shot so far in his entry-level deal. AHL estimate 0.86 5×5/60.
  • Zach Pochiro. RFA who was part of the Nail Yakupov deal, a late spike (and a recall to the AHL) shows a pulse. Likely gone next year. AHL estimate 3.22 5×5/60.
  • Bogdan Yakimov. A team so low on pro prospects up front may not be able to afford to cut him loose, but if he wants to stay in Russia probably best to move on. He did not have a good season.
  • Likely to return: Connor McDavid, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Mark Letestu, Kyle Platzer
  • Too soon to know: David Desharnais, Henrik Samuelsson
  • Likely to go: Anton Lander, Jere Sallinen, Zach Pochiro, Bogdan Yakimov
  • Summary: Fantastic at the top, Nuge struggling, Letestu Swiss Army knife.
  • Summer Headlines: McDavid signs deal for eight times maximum the law will allow; Oilers examine possibility of life without Nuge; Letestu’s groove requires a strong 3C; leaving Leon on RW.

LEFT WING (8)

  • Patrick Maroon. The first of dozens of feelgood stories that begin ‘well, they put me on a line with McDavid…’ he is at 20 goals and could end up with 25 or more. Has another year on his deal, not quite a stranglehold on the 1L job. He isn’t going anywhere. 1.74 5×5/60.
  • Milan Lucic. His first Edmonton season has been a worry, as chemistry and the forward pass have been found wanting. He is on pace for 45 points, so is still producing offense, and his contract guarantees several more seasons, but he will need to be better in areas he has flourished in the past—like passing and protecting the puck. 1.07 5×5/60.
  • Benoit Pouliot. I am mildly encouraged by the addition of David Desharnais as it relates to Pouliot. Although it is ancient history (2009-11) the two men did have some success back then, maybe there is some goodness left in the pairing. It is important for BP to get going, Edmonton is extremely unlikely to get lucky and offload this $4M contract that expires in 2019. 0.98 5×5/60.
  • Matt Hendricks. He is UFA at the end of the year and those $1.85M dollars are headed elsewhere. I imagine there is a chance of a TC invite but the Oilers have other, less expensive, options. 1.37 5×5/60.
  • Drake Caggiula. The key for him is offense. I like his speed and he has an edge, plus (so far) enough elusiveness to avoid thundering crashes not of his choosing. I don’t know that we know about his bat yet, but do believe wing is probably his future. 0.74 5×5/60.
  • Jujhar Khaira. If he survives the expansion draft, I think Khaira could have a solid career with the Oilers. He is fast enough and he is dogged on the check, and basically a vice-grip in a board battle. Does he have enough offense? I think he does for a 4L job. He is RFA but the contract would not be an issue. 1.07 5×5/60.
  • Joey Laleggia. RFA after the season, his Oilers career may be getting a reprieve from the governor with his position change. He has 14 goals now and may get a contract this summer and a cup of coffee in this calendar year. AHL estimate 1.11/60. Includes time as a defenseman. 
  • Braden Christoffer. He has another year left on his deal after this one, and there isn’t much offense at the AHL level. He will return. AHL estimate 0.50/60.
  • Likely to return: Patrick Maroon, Milan Lucic, Benoit Pouliot, Drake Caggiula, Jujhar Khaira, Joey Laleggia, Braden Christoffer
  • Too soon to know:
  • Likely to go: Matt Hendricks
  • Summary: The position is covered for next season, but there is at least some worry about all of the characters in the plot. Are there two 20-goal men here? If so, who are they?
  • Summer Headlines: Milan Lucic trains with Patrick Maroon; Khaira remains an Oiler after expansion; Can Caggiula score enough to play in the top 9F?

RIGHT WING (10)

  • Leon Draisaitl. We all want him at center, but the Desharnais trade makes it less likely—at least for this season. Leon is an RFA this season and his contract number is going to be interesting. On pace for 69 points in his second full season. 1.72 5×5/60.
  • Jordan Eberle. He is at 1.56/60 in scoring 5×5 and that represents a giant leap forward over his number in the metric earlier this season. That is very good news, as Edmonton needs him to be a productive player on one of the top two lines. UFA 2019 summer. 1.56 5×5/60.
  • Zack Kassian. He has earned a new contract and the tea leaves suggest he will get one soon. On pace for 22 points and he can play up the depth chart in spurts. RFA this summer, my bet is he is signed before heading home for the summer. 1.57 5×5/60.
  • Anton Slepyshev. Size and speed are there, the worry (there is a trend among the young wingers) is about offense. Although he has one year left on his entry-level deal, I find myself thinking the time is now if Slepyshev is going to make it as an Oiler. Scoring a few goals down the stretch could make a world of difference for him. 1.31 5×5/60.
  • Jesse Puljujarvi. I said before the season that the one good thing about 2016-17 is that we would have JPs offensive potential surrounded by April. Well, we are here, and the answer is not yet completely known to us. Like the player, suspect 50-point seasons are out there, but would like some proof. 1.45 5×5/60 and AHL estimate 2.22 5×5/60. 
  • Iiro Pakarinen. RFA Pakarinen is probably going to lose a battle with this group of RWs in the race to a job as a regular. The coach likes him, that could help. 2.81 5×5/60.
  • Tyler Pitlick. He has been out of the lineup for a long time now, but the numbers and performance were impressive. Pitlick and his agent may decide he should take advantage of that free-agent opportunity and find a more promising landing spot. I hope he stays, because when healthy Pitlick brings a lot to the table, including 5×5 goal scoring. 2.22 5×5/60.
  • Justin Fontaine. UFA this summer and likely to fill a two-way role in Bakersfield. He has NHL speed and is a good checker, so could fill an NHL role if necessary. AHL estimate 1.79/60.
  • Patrick Russell. The forgotten man in the NCAA free-agent flurry last season, he has skill but the speed is not great. Has one more year before RFA status. AHL estimate 0.91 5×5/60.
  • Greg Chase. He played his first year pro in Norfolk, with the idea of coming to Bakersfield this year and establishing himself at that level. Didn’t happen. Chase has one more year on his entry-level deal, I would like to see him in the lineup on one of the top three lines for 40 games in a row. He may not be an NHL player, but give the man his at-bats and let him show what he can do at the AHL level. AHL estimate 0.84 5×5/60.
  • Likely to return: Leon Draisaitl, Jordan Eberle, Zack Kassian, Jesse Puljujarvi, Anton Slepyshev, Tyler Pitlick, Patrick Russell, Greg Chase.
  • Too soon to know: Justin Fontaine.
  • Likely to go: Iiro Pakarinen.
  • Summary: If Leon stays at RW, the position has real strength. Jordan Eberle seems to be recovering his 5×5 offense, and Jesse Puljujarvi is posting some good numbers in Bakersfield. The club has plenty of depth below those three men at this position, with Zack Kassian a bottom 6F Godsend for fine work done on both sides of the puck.
  • Summer Headlines: Oilers commit to Leon as RW, bloggers weep; Oilers contemplate life without Eberle; Jesse Puljujarvi ready for challenge of 2R role and increased expectations; Kassian signs three-year deal with Oilers.

CHIARELLI AT THE DEADLINE

  1. Acquire Kevin Shattenkirk as a rental if the price isn’t too dear (No)
  2. Acquire a two-way center who can play also play wing (Desharnais is an offensive C)
  3. Added to the list: RW who shoots right and can score goals (No)
  4. Acquire a backup goalie (No)
  5. Get real value for Brandon Davidson at the deadline, by procuring a forward under control and worth protecting (may happen after season) (Rental instead)
  6. Laying groundwork for deal with Golden Knights that could be tied into point No. 4 (No)
  7. Grab a mittful of 2017 draft picks (signed Ryan Mantha)

This was a weird trade deadline for Edmonton. The club sent away Brandon Davidson, who was signed to an excellent contract, at a low value ebb. The return is a rental, but I am reminded of so many Bruins deadlines where the rental ended up staying for a longer term.

I am fine with PC giving his young wingers a chance to shine this spring, and do think we will see enough in names like Drake Caggiula, Jujhar Khaira, Anton Slepyshev and Jesse Puljujarvi to be heartened about the future.

The decision to pass on acquiring a backup goalie is curious to me. If the Oilers felt Laurent Brossoit was their backup man, then acquiring Jhonas Enroth for Bakersfield (and injury protection) could have been a solution. As it is, Cam Talbot will likely play all but two games between now and the moment Edmonton clinches. Great news for Brossoit, who has a clear chance to establish himself as the de facto NHL backup beginning this fall.

The Brandon Davidson trade was coming, we saw it from miles away. My preference would have been to acquire a piece that might be useful for the future, but Chiarelli decided to give the current team a little push and I can understand the concept. The state of the Oilers forward depth suggests to me that Desharnais has a real chance at another Oilers contract if he plays well down the stretch. Derek Roy was 1.53/60 at 5×5 in 2014-15 as an Oiler, if Desharnais can hit that number my guess is he gets the contract offer Roy never received.

Chiarelli may have contacted Vegas with a trade idea, I think George McPhee will be focused on Griffin Reinhart, Jujhar Khaira and Benoit Pouliot. It seems reasonable to me that the two men might be able to agree on a deal (select Benoit Pouliot in the expansion draft, Oilers deal the rights to Ziyat Paigin, as an example).

Although the mittful of draft picks did not appear, signing Ryan Mantha was a nice get and we will examine this young player and his potential in the days to come.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun morning filled with hockey talk and deadline reviews. TSN1260, beginning at 10, and scheduled to appear:

  • Darcy McLeod, Because Oilers. Brandon Davidson outer marker, David Desharnais deployment.
  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey. Did the Oilers do enough at the deadline?
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. Who won the deadline? Were the Oilers close on anything else?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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who: But Nurse is a great skater (Davidson is not) in a big, aggressive body. His passing and shooting can improve, Davidsons skating will not.

Exactly.

Plus,
Nurse has a higher PPG than Davidson. Why criticize the offence of one when they both aren’t strong in that area?

I think in 2-3 years Nurse is well ahead of Davidson.

spoiler

Woodguy v2.0,

Not to pile on, but:

https://www.nhl.com/video/edmundsons-first-career-goal/t-277350912/c-42936903

There’s slo-mo too… for your phone. 😉

who

Bruce Wayne:
Let’s be honest, a whole lot of things have to go right with Mantha for him to turn out as good as Davidson.

It seems strange to be happy about Mantha at the same time as at ease with the loss of Davidson.

But then I think Davidson is better than Nurse (right now), and not simply because of decision making.Nurse is a poor passer, with a weak shot, and no offensive instincts.

But Nurse is a great skater (Davidson is not) in a big, aggressive body. His passing and shooting can improve, Davidsons skating will not.

who

Woodguy v2.0: You doubt my knowledge of LH/RH?????

Heathen!!

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130643&encode=TRUE

Schmaltz is RH and looks like the goods.

Rookie, but the goods.

If you watch St Louis you’ll know Edmonson shoots left.

Woodguy v2.0

Melvis:
Woodguy v2.0,

OK…Game on. I’m looking for tickets for this homestand. I’ll let you know.Then ask me me no questions, and I’ll tell you no lies.

Perfect

N64

Woodguy v2.0: He can probably trade for better F’s with the extra D he’ll get than in the expansion draft.

Yes. And that sets baseline price for anyone wanting him to not touch specific D. Don’t touch deals have to increase the certainty of his total value a month out.

spoiler

Melvis:
spoiler,

Did you study film formally? I was wondering…fully enmeshed in Ugetsu last night for about the fourth or fifthtime.

Good art – and hockey –reveals itself…continues to reveal itselfin different waysin different light, on different walls, and places and screens over the years.

That’s such an important observation. The test of time is one of the biggest tests for me, especially looking at films… What is popular can often be not-Art. Art can also be hidden or unintended… and needs change to reveal itself.

As for me, I took a couple of Int D classes at the U of A, which were Film Studies, but nothing really formal. Got into it much later, around about 2000-01, and read as much as I could and watched and wrote. My life kind of got put on pause for two years so I had the time.

One of my philosophies is that Art, as opposed to art or artisanship, means you’ve added or annotated on what has come before. You’ve provided an innovation the future can use. Small “a” art means you’ve exhibited competence or even mastery of what has come before, but it’s nothing new. Still worthwhile obviously, especially masterful craftsmanship.

Art also usually means taking risks and likely failing more often than not, much like a home run hitter. We should celebrate the interesting, risk-taking failures more than we do competent formula money-makers, because we’re more likely to see more home runs and push the Art forward.

Cinema is kind of neat because it is so young as an Art. I find that very attractive. It is so much more difficult to innovate as a painter or novelist or musician.

Ugetsu?

It is one of the most important movies ever made and should be seen by everyone.

Boat, lake, inky fog, the strokes of the pots…

Christ, now I desperately want to watch it again. I think it must be ten years since I’ve seen it.

OriginalPouzar

McDavid at the max contract?

I’m sorry but there is no player in the league, or in the history of cap era, that can take up a fifth of the team’s available salary – not if that team wants to win a championship. The organization understands this and McDavid, who wants to win, understands this. I’m hopeful the contract will come in at a cap hit under $10M/year but understand if it has to be a million higher to give him the highest cap hit in the league (although I could argue against that as the top cap hits did not get those on their 2nd contracts).

Melvis

Woodguy v2.0,

OK…Game on. I’m looking for tickets for this homestand. I’ll let you know. Then ask me me no questions, and I’ll tell you no lies.

Chachi

Bruce Wayne: If Desharnais plays well enough to justify the cost then he is going to cost more than 1.25 M.

Just wait to see what he gets paid when he wins the Conn Smythe!!!
Woodguy said it is a left wing lock to happen!

Melvis:
NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

I was thinking of you and a pin hole camera concocted out of a twenty foot Uhaul at one one end of Rogers –taking really long exposures of an Oilers practice. Sorta of like Vera Lutter in color.

(Looch stays in focus for two hours..lol)

And of course, there’s a market among the dudes with double height wallspace and backyarddouble garage man caves and work spaces for big ass prints.

Ha ha. McDavid would never appear in a pinhole exposure that long. Picturing this image now.

Woodguy v2.0

N64: Yes. He can build from the back end and collect assets to develop and upgrade.

And he can pocket extra assets to switch a selection and still auction what he takes. Lots of fungible assets. No cap dumps that day

He can probably trade for better F’s with the extra D he’ll get than in the expansion draft.

Woodguy v2.0

Melvis:
bendelson,

Irish whiskey. I love the stuff, but…

My maternal great grandfather, and grandmother minded the still in the shed behind the barn on the farm, southeast of Toon Town…seven miles north of Prudhomme…where I first laced them on in childhood.

Once, they made the mistake of feeding the mash to the pigs…

Apparently, a whole lot of harmony going on into the wee hours. Like this blog some nights;-)

awesome

Woodguy v2.0

Lowetide: It is only a matter of time before that happens.

Don’t you start with me!

Woodguy v2.0

Melvis:
Woodguy v2.0,

Fuck that noise. You’re going to buy me a beer at a home game in the near future…then I’ m going to buy you two…and a Nicky burger for allt he work you do. JFC.

Done and goddam done.

I’ll try not to bug the shit out you will a million questions.

Woodguy v2.0

fifthcartel: Edmundson’s LH, but they called up Jordan Schmaltz, their 2012 1st round pick who is a RHD.

His two AHL seasons look pretty good too:

15-16: 71 games 36 points 0.5ppg
16–17: 42 games 25 points 0.59 ppg

He’s also the last 2012 1st round pick to play in the NHL, but a RHD who put up solid numbers in the AHL and is only 23 seems like a possible very valuable player.

You doubt my knowledge of LH/RH?????

Heathen!!

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130643&encode=TRUE

Schmaltz is RH and looks like the goods.

Rookie, but the goods.

N64

Woodguy v2.0: *shakes fist*

*drops phone*

SURE. BLAME THE PHONE.

N64

Woodguy v2.0: If I’m McPhee I take the best F’s I can, then all Dmen and mores G than I need and sell them back to teams.
Hold my own mini-dispersal draft.
McPhee has soooooo many ways to do this

Yes. He can build from the back end and collect assets to develop and upgrade.

And he can pocket extra assets to switch a selection and still auction what he takes. Lots of fungible assets. No cap dumps that day

Woodguy v2.0

Bruce Wayne: If Desharnais plays well enough to justify the cost then he is going to cost more than 1.25 M.

Guys like him are available off of waivers or try-out contracts every year.Is he better than Versteeg or Parenteau?If he is, the cost is more than 1.25 million to sign him.If he isn’t , why did you trade Davidson for him?

I didn’t trade Davidson for him.

The other players you mentioned are 3rd/4th wingers who are a dime a dozen.

C’s who can saw off at 3C and bring some offense, much less so.

Death By Misadventure

Lt,

If you do not write the definitive book of the post glory days Oilers, I will be gravely disappointed. I spend about 15 minutes per day reading your pros and the comments and I would definitely buy this book or 4 if you write it. Thanks for waking up ever day and writing about this team, this city, and your own life experience that connects as all.

Start writing this book, I will buy it , even though I know how it turns out.

Woodguy v2.0

Bruce Wayne,

It seems strange to be happy about Mantha at the same time as at ease with the loss of Davidson

This makes no sense.

The are individual moves and reviewed on their own merit.

Peter signed a RHD, position of weakness in the org, who has promise. This is good.

Why juxtapose it with Davidson?

This reminds me of RiversQ shitting on the Benning signing because Chiarelli/K.Gretzky drafted him in the first place so he must be awful.

Melvis

bendelson,

Irish whiskey. I love the stuff, but…

My maternal great grandfather, and grandmother minded the still in the shed behind the barn on the farm, southeast of Toon Town…seven miles north of Prudhomme…where I first laced them on in childhood.

Once, they made the mistake of feeding the mash to the pigs…

Apparently, a whole lot of harmony going on into the wee hours. Like this blog some nights;-)

Woodguy v2.0

frjohnk: YEAH?

WELL IM TELLING LT YOU SAID MANTHA WAS LEFT HANDED!

*shakes fist*

*drops phone*

spoiler

Has LT posted his March expectations yet? Did I miss them? Do they come with the first game, I can’t remember.

Woodguy v2.0

Confused:
Woodguy v2.0,

How does Mantha compare against Bear?

Bear is one year younger than Mantha.

He is also 6′ shorter.

67pts in 61gm – 1.07pts/gm

it’s important to note that Seattle is a good team and score much more than Niagara ands % of team offence is important.

Will dig deeper when I get off my phone

blainer

I was really hoping for more from Chia at the deadline.

That said I do think DD may come in like Maroon did last year. Playing on a team with Connor helps me thinks.

I also think Chia is counting on JP coming back up for playoffs or maybe even before. If that is to happen JP needs to get going down there. I was hoping he would be at least a PPG by now. Some road left but would love to see him have three or four multi point games in a row.

Woodguy v2.0

Bruce Wayne:
You guys are overthinking Mcphee’s position.He should take the best player available from every team within the constraints of the draft rules (at least 20 have to have contracts, so only 10 guys on RFA contracts), ideally taking 30 NHL quality players.Then he should trade the excess to the highest bidder to avoid losing these players on waivers.

If you run the draft simulator at cap friendly you’ll see that the Las Vegas team could actually have excellent depth, with a fourth line that is better than most teams third lines.The problem is they won’t have any top flight players.If they play their cards right they should have a lot of surplus value to get future draft picks without actually hurting their on ice product because their 15th best player will be the best 15th best player in the entire league.

With all the 2nd pair Dmen LGK will have to choose from its likely they could ice a better Dcorps than 10+ teams.

They’ll also have reasonable goalering.

Those two are the key to winning and they probably don’t finish last in the WC.

Maybe not even 2nd worst.

If I’m McPhee I take the best F’s I can, then all Dmen and mores G than I need and sell them back to teams.

Hold my own mini-dispersal draft.

McPhee has soooooo many ways to do this.

Fun.

Melvis

spoiler,

Did you study film formally? I was wondering…fully enmeshed in Ugetsu last night for about the fourth or fifth time.

Good art – and hockey – reveals itself…continues to reveal itself in different ways in different light, on different walls, and places and screens over the years.

Thor762

JDï™,
Graham McPhee is committed to Boston College. So no worries of an ELC needed immediately.

I think it’s more a possibility that Chiarelli is in the good books with McPhee. This article says he teared up when his son was drafted. As a soon to be father myself, were it me, I can only imagine I’d deal with the guy that did that for my kid favorably. At least once anyhow.

http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2016/06/25/an-emotional-george-mcphee-tears-up-after-son-graham-gets-drafted-by-edmonton-oilers/

bendelson

Melvis:
Woodguy v2.0,

Fuck that noise. You’re going to buy me a beer at a home game in the near future…then I’ m going to buy you two…and a Nicky burger for allt he work you do. JFC.

Fair warning Melvis… It’s only a matter of time before the Irish Whiskey appears in full force.
Best of luck.

spoiler

Melvis,

Beauty post.

Melvis

Woodguy v2.0,

Fuck that noise. You’re going to buy me a beer at a home game in the near future…then I’ m going to buy you two…and a Nicky burger for allt he work you do. JFC.

JD_Wry

Thor762: A sort of “you scratched my back, so I’ll scratch yours”.

So McPhee gets an ELC?

fifthcartel

Woodguy v2.0: That’s true, but Shattenkirk’s TOI was behind Pietrangelo and Parayko (their other two big RHD) and 4th among Dmen.

Edmunson is RH and has taken Shatts spot as 3RD and Gunnarson is playing again, this time 2nd pair with Parayko.

They’ve got some depth on D.

They lost a good one, but they have good ones left.

We’ll see.

I think it will be really close.

Edmundson’s LH, but they called up Jordan Schmaltz, their 2012 1st round pick who is a RHD.

His two AHL seasons look pretty good too:

15-16: 71 games 36 points 0.5ppg
16–17: 42 games 25 points 0.59 ppg

He’s also the last 2012 1st round pick to play in the NHL, but a RHD who put up solid numbers in the AHL and is only 23 seems like a possible very valuable player.

Melvis

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

I was thinking of you and a pin hole camera concocted out of a twenty foot Uhaul at one one end of Rogers – taking really long exposures of an Oilers practice. Sorta of like Vera Lutter in color.

(Looch stays in focus for two hours..lol)

And of course, there’s a market among the dudes with double height wall space and backyard double garage man caves and work spaces for big ass prints.

Cassandra

Woodguy v2.0: The 20 games may not be inconsequential if Desharnais shows well and they hire him again next year for $1.25 or so.

I’m on record as saying I liked the player and the cost was more than I would have wanted to pay.

I think the Oilers want their Dmen to either have a big skating/offensive dimension to their game like Klef or Sekera or play rough and strong Larsson or Nurse.

Davidson was kinda the mushy middle and while he might be the 3rd or 4th best LHD on the team today, they didn’t see him being that in the near future.

I thought he’d make an excellent 7D next year and we all know your 7D usually plays more than everyone except your top 7 Forwards, so its an important spot.

I understand why Peter made the trade, but wish he had paid less.

If Desharnais plays well enough to justify the cost then he is going to cost more than 1.25 M.

Guys like him are available off of waivers or try-out contracts every year. Is he better than Versteeg or Parenteau? If he is, the cost is more than 1.25 million to sign him. If he isn’t , why did you trade Davidson for him?

frjohnk

Woodguy v2.0: STOP SAYING HE CAN BE PARAYKO!!!

IMMA TELLING LT ON YOU

YEAH?

WELL IM TELLING LT YOU SAID MANTHA WAS LEFT HANDED!

Cassandra

Let’s be honest, a whole lot of things have to go right with Mantha for him to turn out as good as Davidson.

It seems strange to be happy about Mantha at the same time as at ease with the loss of Davidson.

But then I think Davidson is better than Nurse (right now), and not simply because of decision making. Nurse is a poor passer, with a weak shot, and no offensive instincts.

Woodguy v2.0

frjohnk: Mantha turning out to be something like Parayko would be fantastic but I am tempering expectiations, so I am believing it to be highly unlikely.

Hoping he is good enough to spend most of next year in the AHL.If he goes to Norfolk for a while thats OK too.

Its too bad that the CHL advanced stats site is no longer online, there would have been many players like Mantha who did well in their overage season to look at and would be nice to see how many actually made it.

EDIT: Just to add the NHLE’s ( using http://www.hockeyabstract.com/thoughts/updatedtranslationfactors) for their 19 and 20 year old seasons we get this

19Y Colton 13 points
19Y Ryan 10 points

20Y Colton 25 points
20Y Ryan 23 points

STOP SAYING HE CAN BE PARAYKO!!!

IMMA TELLING LT ON YOU

Thor762

Something else to consider with the Vegas expansion draft is that Chiarelli drafted McPhee’s kid this past year, when no other team stepped up to do the same. This even before he became the Vegas GM. I think it is entirely possible that McPhee does Chiarelli a solid and they come to a favorable agreement.

A sort of “you scratched my back, so I’ll scratch yours”.

Woodguy v2.0

unca miltie:
Woodguy v2.0,

Only an opinion, but I think the blues will be blue knowing their management sees them on the decline. Lost their captain last year and now a strong d-man with no replacements..

That’s true, but Shattenkirk’s TOI was behind Pietrangelo and Parayko (their other two big RHD) and 4th among Dmen.

Edmunson is RH and has taken Shatts spot as 3RD and Gunnarson is playing again, this time 2nd pair with Parayko.

They’ve got some depth on D.

They lost a good one, but they have good ones left.

We’ll see.

I think it will be really close.

Woodguy v2.0

Georges: This reads so nicely.

Every once in a while in the midst of talk of CF% and chip and chase, someone leaves poetry.

I consider this to be also one of life’s weird turns and circumstance.

I want to come back as Melvis in my next life.

Woodguy v2.0

frjohnk: Mantha turning out to be something like Parayko would be fantastic but I am tempering expectiations, so I am believing it to be highly unlikely.

Hoping he is good enough to spend most of next year in the AHL.If he goes to Norfolk for a while thats OK too.

Its too bad that the CHL advanced stats site is no longer online, there would have been many players like Mantha who did well in their overage season to look at and would be nice to see how many actually made it.

I SAID CLEARLY THAT I’M NOT SAYING HE CAN BE PARAYKO!!!

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NO SIR!!

NOT SAYING IT!!!

Woodguy v2.0

Bruce Wayne:
Woodguy v2.0,

I, personally, have nothing against Deshairnais.Indeed, he is the kind of player I usually like and thnk are undervalued (small, skilled, etc.).The problem is trading a good player signed long term for 20 inconsequential games.

The evaluation of Davidson as a #6 or #7 defender is what is so off.

The 20 games may not be inconsequential if Desharnais shows well and they hire him again next year for $1.25 or so.

I’m on record as saying I liked the player and the cost was more than I would have wanted to pay.

I think the Oilers want their Dmen to either have a big skating/offensive dimension to their game like Klef or Sekera or play rough and strong Larsson or Nurse.

Davidson was kinda the mushy middle and while he might be the 3rd or 4th best LHD on the team today, they didn’t see him being that in the near future.

I thought he’d make an excellent 7D next year and we all know your 7D usually plays more than everyone except your top 7 Forwards, so its an important spot.

I understand why Peter made the trade, but wish he had paid less.

russ99

digger50:
Here is why I get upset with Chiarrelli. Rant warning alert

The Oil are god this year, doing exceptionally well. They are a few pieces away from moving to elite. We can see this. They are also exposed to injury in key positions.

Peter says “we are not contenders the year”. “We’ll just get some playoff experience” so number one you know the roster needs to improve. Who’s job is to make the improvements?

Second, if the players coast though playoffs with a lack of compete, don’t complain Peter. You set the tone, stating they are just thereto get some experience.

You want players to play hard, they want a GM who is all in.

You spent a million dollars scouting for this deadline and were reportedly in on numerous deals. I find this encouraging. Unfortunately You basically struck out and now have to report you are happy with the team as is. That’s the political side sure.

Fact is you were unable to substantially improve. You missed or passed on opportunity. I dont think Peter as a bad GM, I just get disappointed when I see the team close and needing a little push to be great.

Need to get it done Peter, the hard trades, not just the easy to ones. Get us to the next level
Please.

I understand the rant and part of me wants to see that too, but there’s also value in evaluating players in a playoff situation to see whether or not you want to keep them.

So yes it wasn’t go for the Cup or trade away anyone who’s not going to the cup, but the middle is OK too, at least for this season.

unca miltie

Woodguy v2.0:
106 and 106,

I once read this blog everyday during a long stint with Doctors without Borders in South Sudan.

My hat off to you sir.

Thank you for making the world a better place.

*strong clapping*

Ditto..clap clap

frjohnk

Woodguy v2.0: I’m certainly not saying that Mantha could turn into Parayko, but it was at this age that Parayko (who was passed over in the draft his first year of eligibility) blossomed with U of Alaska.

19 year old year 17pts in 33 games. (.51/gm)
20 year old year 26pts in 37 games (.70/gm)

He was another gangly 6’5″ kid who needed to grow into his frame.

Mantha 19 year old year 25pts in 65 games (0.38/gm)
Mantha 20 year old year51 in 58 games (0.88/gm)

Now Mantha is playing against teenageers and Parayko was playing against young men, but the similarity in size and slow development is interesting.

Parayko’s knock was skating as was Mantha’s.

Word is that Mantha worked like a dog at his skating and his shot, and Parayko did the exact same thing.

Not that I think he can be Parayko.

No sir.

Nope.

*whistles and walks lightly pass the graveyard*

Mantha turning out to be something like Parayko would be fantastic but I am tempering expectiations, so I am believing it to be highly unlikely.

Hoping he is good enough to spend most of next year in the AHL. If he goes to Norfolk for a while thats OK too.

Its too bad that the CHL advanced stats site is no longer online, there would have been many players like Mantha who did well in their overage season to look at and would be nice to see how many actually made it.

EDIT: Just to add the NHLE’s ( using http://www.hockeyabstract.com/thoughts/updatedtranslationfactors) for their 19 and 20 year old seasons we get this

19Y Colton 13 points
19Y Ryan 10 points

20Y Colton 25 points
20Y Ryan 23 points

Woodguy v2.0

spoiler:
Woodguy v2.0,

I posted the other night that the move to me looked like a “unicorn move” towards three scoring lines.. riffing off a similar note by LT.NYCoil pointed out that Chia said “two way” in his presser, but that might just be GM smoke.Nice to see more evidence that this strat is possible.

Definitely more unicorns in the line up with him.

He seems to be good at the hockeying part of hockey.

Alpine

Bruce Wayne:
Woodguy v2.0,

I, personally, have nothing against Deshairnais.Indeed, he is the kind of player I usually like and thnk are undervalued (small, skilled, etc.).The problem is trading a good player signed long term for 20 inconsequential games.

The evaluation of Davidson as a #6 or #7 defender is what is so off.

It seems far off but to the Oilers and any team with a deep LH side he’s essentially a 6/7. Last season in 50 games he was a positive possession player usually alternating between second and third. In 28 games this year he’s a negative playing almost exclusively third pair. Rookie season probably shouldn’t count but same results as this year in 12 GP.

It’s hard to pinpoint exactly what he is. I think he’s probably a 5 who can be a 4 with a good partner (Petry). Nurse and Benning are the same quality in addition to being younger. Russell was of similar quality when STL and CBJ correctly put him on the third pairing.

I think I’d be more bothered losing him if he had provided solid play as Nurse’s injury replacement, and he just didn’t quite do that. Injuries have a fair amount to do with that. For me, he doesn’t have a long enough track of consistently driving play in easy minutes to have that much more value beyond what we returned for him. A mid round pick coming back for him would have had to been flipped anyways for a depth forward anyways.