THE OILERS AND THE QMJHL (2017 DRAFT)

The QMJHL is not a popular area for the Edmonton Oilers. In team history, the most successful pick from the Q was Kevin Lowe, the team’s first selection. In this century, Ales Hemsky would represent the most successful pick from the Quebec league. The Oilers have tried, selecting Francois Leroux (1988), Matthieu Descoteaux (1996), Hemsky (2001) and Marc Pouliot (2003) in first rounds after the Lowe success. Bottom line: The Oilers don’t shop heavily in the QMJHL compared to the rest of the NHL.

What about Peter Chiarelli? From 2006 through his leaving before the 2015 draft, PC’s Bruins drafted Brad Marchand (third round, 2006), Andrew Bodnarchuk (fifth round, 2006), Maxime Sauve (second round, 2008), Jordan Caron (first round, 2009), and then stopped shopping in the league entirely. During that same period (2006-14), Edmonton drafted Phil Cornet (fifth round, 2008), Olivier Roy (fifth round, 2009), Jeremie Blain (fourth round, 2010) Marco Roy (second round, 2013) and Keven Bouchard (seventh round, 2014). PC spent a first, second and third on the Q, Edmonton spent only a second rounder during the period.

 NHL PLAYERS/QMJHL PLAYERS DRAFTED BY YEAR

  • 2016 NHL draft—211 total players, 14 from the Q
  • 2015 NHL draft—211 total players, 30 from the Q
  • 2014 NHL draft—210 total players, 17 from the Q
  • 2013 NHL draft—211 total players, 31 from the Q
  • 2012 NHL draft–211 total players, 19 from the Q
  • 2011 NHL draft, 211 total players, 22 from the Q
  • 2010 NHL draft 210 total players, 22 from the Q
  • 2009 NHL draft, 211 total players, 23 from the Q
  • 2008 NHL draft, 211 total players, 27 from the Q
  • FINAL TALLY: 1,897 total players, 205 from the Q
  • PERCENTAGE: 9.7%

 TOTAL PLAYERS/QMJHL PLAYERS DRAFTED BY THE OILERS

  • 2016 NHL draft—9 total players, 0 from the Q
  • 2015 NHL draft—6 total players, 0 from the Q
  • 2014 NHL draft—6 total players, 1 from the Q
  • 2013 NHL draft—10 total players, 1 from the Q
  • 2012 NHL draft–7 total players, 0 from the Q
  • 2011 NHL draft–9 total players, 0 from the Q
  • 2010 NHL draft–11 total players, 1 from the Q
  • 2009 NHL draft–7 total players, 1 from the Q
  • 2008 NHL draft–5 total players, 1 from the Q
  • FINAL TALLY: 70 total players, 5 from the Q
  • PERCENTAGE: 7.1%

CHL BREAKDOWN SINCE 2008

  1. WHL 24.3
  2. OHL 14.3
  3. QMJHL 7.1

CHL BREAKDOWN SINCE 2014

  1. WHL 14.3
  2. OHL 9.5
  3. QMJHL 4.8

All three CHL leagues have seen fewer picks in the last three seasons, as the Oilers have been spending more assets in the USHL and Europe.

 QMJHL  PLAYERS SINCE 2008

  • 2008—Phil Cornet (2 NHL games)
  • 2009—Oliver Roy
  • 2010—Jeremie Blain
  • 2011
  • 2012
  • 2013—Marco Roy
  • 2014—Keven Bouchard
  • 2015
  • 2016

This list suggests the Oilers have pretty much abandoned the QMJHL, although one year ago I thought there was a good chance the club would use the first-round pick on Pierre-Luc Dubois. The truth is the USHL and Euro looks for 2017 may be more compelling for Edmonton fans based on this team’s established preferences. Why run the Q now? Force of habit. The WHL and OHL are very likely to house at least one draft pick each for Edmonton this summer, and the QMJHL will probably pitch a shutout again this draft weekend. Although the league is No. 3 in terms of available talent this year, are there good prospects? Yes there are, more than a year ago.

Q’S BEST, 2017

  1. L Nico Hischier, Halifax Mooseheads. May go No. 1. Dynamic. 38 goals, 82 points.
  2. RD Pierre-Olivier Joseph, Charlottetown Islanders. Two-way D, some nice boxcars.
  3. L Maxime Comtois, Victoriaville Tigres. Skilled, good size, skating average. Smart player.
  4. LC Antoine Morand, Acadie-Bathurst Titan. Very small, very skilled. Impact season.
  5. L Pavel Koltygin, Drummondville Voltigeurs. Two-way winger, 21 goals a solid number for a 1999.
  6. L Ivan Kosorenkov, Victoriaville Tigres. Undersized Russian has 33 goals on hard work in tough spots.
  7. L Joel Teasdale, Blainville-Boisbriand Armada. Impressive season, smart and skilled, good speed.
  8. L Vladimir Kuznetsov, Acadie-Bathurst Titan. Good skater, skilled, with size. 1998.
  9. L David Noel, Val D’Or Foreurs. Strong winger with an excellent shot. Shy offense.
  10. LC Ivan Chekhovich, Baie-Comeau Drakkar. Undersized skill forward, point-per-game.
  11. L Yaroslav Alexeyev, Sherbrooke Phoenix. Smaller winger with great speed and can score.
  12. LD Antoine Crete-Belzile, Blainville-Boisbriand Armada. Two-way defender has had some injury issues.
  13. L Samuel Bucek, Shawinigan Cataractes. PF with average speed, good passer. Somewhat raw.
  14. R Shawn Boudrias, Gatineau Olympique. Two-way winger with size, average speed. Late scoring surge.
  15. LD Matteo Pietroniro, Baie-Comeau Drakker. Offensive defender with skill.
  16. L Ivan Kozlov, Val-d’Or Foreurs. March 1999 will finish around 20 goals. Not a lot on him.
  17. R Denis Mikhnin, Rimouski Oceanic. 20-goal scorer, I don’t have much on him.
  18. G Alex D’Orio, Saint John Sea Dogs. A .903 SP as a QMJHL rookie.
  19. R D’Artagnan Joly, Baie-Comeau Drakker. Creative winger with speed and size, could surprise.
  20. LD Thomas Gregoire, Sherbrooke Phoenix. Puck mover, 1998, he has posted a strong season.
  21. LD Jocktan Chainey, Halifax Mooseheads. Skating is excellent, smart defender, can move the puck.
  22. RD Leon Gawanke, Cape Breton Screaming Eagles. Puck moving defender. Solid season.
  23. RD Walter Flower, Halifax Mooseheads. Good skater, has potential, but may take some time.
  24. RC Maxime Fortier, Halifax Mooseheads. He is 20, very skilled, small. I had him No. 4 a year ago.
  25. LD Alexander Krief, Sherbrooke Phoenix. Big defender with good speed, plus shot.
  26. LD Zachary Lauzon, Rouyn-Noranda Huskies. Rugged defender, less offense than his brother.
  27. LD Simon Le Coultre, Moncton Wildcats. Small offensive defensemen, good speed, long way to go.
  28. G Antoine Samuel, Baie-Comeau Drakker. A .901 SP, fourth year in the league.

OILERS PICKS AT THE 2017 DRAFT

  • First Round: No. 20 overall
  • Third Round: No. 77 overall (FROM ST. LOUIS—this is payment for Nail Yakupov)
  • Third Round: No. 82 overall
  • Fourth Round: No. 113 overall
  • Fifth Round: No. 130 overall (FROM Vancouver—this is payment for Phil Larsen)
  • Fifth Round: No. 144 overall
  • Sixth Round: No. 175 overall
  • Seventh Round: No. 206 overall

 OILERS NEEDS BASED ON CURRENT DEPTH CHART

  1. Left Wing: The trade of Taylor Hall means the NHL team has no LW younger than 28 (Lucic, Maroon) on the everyday roster. Tyler Benson is an excellent prospect but can the Oilers count on him?
  2. Right Wing: Jesse Puljujarvi was a big get from last year’s draft, but this position needs more help at the draft in June.
  3. Right Defense: Aggressive procurement of Matt Benning, Ethan Bear and Ryan Mantha make this position a little stronger from what we were looking at this time next season. More needed, but the club is getting there.
  4. Goal: The trick here is to shore up the position without spending any high picks. Laurent Brossoit is in the NHL now, with Nick Ellis trending very well in his first year pro. Dylan Wells has been an excellent draft bet so far. We could see a goalie added fairly early in this year’s draft, lots of strong candidates.
  5. Left Defense:  At the big league level, the Oilers have youngsters Oscar Klefbom and Darnell Nurse. Griffin Reinhart may or may not force himself into the lineup, but he better hurry because Caleb Jones and or Ziyat Paigin could be pushing soon. Edmonton can afford to pass on a LHD unless the value is extreme.
  6. Center: If you include Connor McDavid, Leon Draisaitl and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, this is one of the deepest positions in the entire NHL.

 OILERS TARGETS BASED ON THEIR OWN PAST

  • Vladimir Kuznetsov, Samuel Bucek, Shawn Boudrias.

 MY PREFERRED TARGETS

  • Antoine Moran, Joel Teasdale.

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29 Responses to "THE OILERS AND THE QMJHL (2017 DRAFT)"

  1. StixMalone says:

    Has that league dried up?

  2. Lowetide says:

    StixMalone:
    Has that league dried up?

    Not at all. Could have the No. 1 pick in the draft.

  3. leadfarmer says:

    If anyone wants to watch goals scored turn on Carolina – NYI game. 5-3 halfway through game

  4. sliderule says:

    Lots of talk on the web about Draisaitl and what is his problem.

    I have been on his case for two years about his conditioning.

    You really notice his weakness when the pace picks up as teams fight for playoffs.

    He may be able to correct the problem in the off season by changing his workout and perhaps dropping his weight.

    Leon has great hands ,vision and youth on his side but unless he finds the stamina answer the oilers better stick to a bridge contract

  5. godot10 says:

    sliderule:
    Lots of talk on the web about Draisaitl and what is his problem.

    I have been on his case for two years about his conditioning.

    You really notice his weakness when the pace picks up as teams fight for playoffs.

    He may be able to correct the problem in the off season by changing his workout and perhaps dropping his weight.

    Leon has great hands ,vision and youth on his sidebut unless he finds the stamina answer the oilers better stick to a bridge contract

    The coach overplays him. The coach should enforce shorter shifts from Draisaitl. Stamina will come with time. The problem right now is not Draisaitl, it is the coach’s utilization of him. Krueger kept his ice time down in the World Cup. Babcock explained the problem to everyone accidentally last November when he was uncharacteristically gloating (i.e McLellan overplays his favourites).

    “You jam a guy out there, it is hard to have pop”.

    Draisaitl, with his big body, will always have to have to have shorter shifts than McDavid. The extended shifts are particularly draining on a young big man over the course of a game.

    But go ahead and blame the player.

  6. sliderule says:

    godot10: The coach overplays him. The coach should enforce shorter shifts from Draisaitl. Stamina will come with time.The problem right now is not Draisaitl, it is the coach’s utilization of him.Krueger kept his ice time down in the World Cup.Babcock explained the problem to everyone accidentally last November when he was uncharacteristically gloating (i.e McLellan overplays his favourites).

    “You jam a guy out there, it is hard to have pop”.

    Draisaitl, with his big body, will always have to have to have shorter shifts than McDavid.The extended shifts are particularly draining on a young big man over the course of a game.

    But go ahead and blame the player.

    I mentioned he and coaches need to shorten his shift in a game day post.

    Connor has long shifts which he can handle.Leon tries to stay out for them and runs out of gas.

    I am not blaming Leon as he may not be able to increase stamina due to his body type.

    If he can’t improve his stamina it will limit his potential and why I would think a bridge contract is wise.

  7. dustrock says:

    He played what, 23 minutes last game? Madness. No wonder he and Maroon aren’t as effective l

  8. godot10 says:

    dustrock:
    He played what, 23 minutes last game?Madness.No wonder he and Maroon aren’t as effective l

    If you didn’t play Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum on the 4th line, one would have Khaira and Slepyshev and Letestu as wingers to double shift McDavid, and take lower the minutes of Maroon and Draisaitl.

  9. --hudson-- says:

    Weren’t the Oilers on the forefront of tracking fatigue? At least a few years ago anyway, maybe Chia scrapped it

    McLellan raised the point of Olympic qualifying before the World Cop. Nobody has had a longer season than Drai

  10. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    sliderule: Nico Hischier

    I know you didn’t like this “excuse” earlier, but he’s also played a lot of hockey.

    He (Germany), Kopitar, (Slovenia), Zuccarello (Norway) and I think a few others had to play in:

    1) Olympic qualifying tourney in August/Sept.
    2) World Cup of Hockey in Sept/Oct
    3) Full NHL schedule

    Here’s those 3 players 5v5 pts/60 over the last month compared to the last 2 years:

    Drai 1.93 vs 1.14
    Kopitar 2.03 vs 0.62
    Zuccarello 2.00 vs 1.60

    That’s a lot of hockey and I bet they all feel like they need a month off.

    A few days here and there might not cut it.

  11. treevojo says:

    Wouldn’t mind the pens taking an extra point here

  12. treevojo says:

    I like pens in SO

    FUCK THE FLAMES

  13. treevojo says:

    Or just.

    FUCK THE FLAMES.

    I want them first round.

  14. StixMalone says:

    10 wins for the Flames = 20 points in a couple weeks. Who says 10 points is hard to catch up…..

  15. GMB3 says:

    I haven’t been so stressed about a non-Oilers game in March like that Flames/Pens game in a long time. What a ride this will be to the finish.

  16. Dicky94 says:

    Remember when we were in 2nd place! Good times!

  17. pts2pndr says:

    godot10,

    Tnx and you haven’t mentioned the additional board work etc. It is unreasonable to compare shifts basicaly on time alone. Double shifting McDavid is the most efficient use of his talents not longer shifts.

  18. Gret99zky says:

    10 in a row for the fLames.

    Ten.

    Yikes.

    Re: Oilers

    It’s playoffs or bust for me. Even if they just squeak in with a wildcard spot.

    This talk of improvement while still missing the playoffs is unfulfilling.

    Finishing with 92 points and missing will feel the same as finishing with 72 points. Both would be improvements compared to last year but the end result would be the same; golfing in April.

  19. OF17 says:

    I’ve stopped caring about the Flames. Yeah I’d like to be ahead of them, but the only true tragedy would be missing the playoffs this season. That would be one of the biggest disappointments of the entire rebuild. So it’s LA I’m looking at. The Oilers control their own destiny. What will they do with it?

  20. GMB3 says:

    We need to rip off a few in a row here. Playing an opponent not named the San Jose Sharks in the first round would be ideal.

  21. Dicky94 says:

    Gret99zky,

    I just want 4 playoff games! Anything over that will be a bonus. It’s been soooo long.

  22. Younger Oil says:

    Remember when the odds were 99% that the Oilers were going to make the playoffs?

    Doesn’t seem so sure now. I remember saying that I don’t feel so sure about those odds, a bad 5-10 game stretch could put us in a fight for a wild card spot. People reassured me that playoffs was a lock.

    If we lose the two games to the Kings, I bet we miss the playoffs.

  23. Justthestatsman says:

    Heh, heh, ex-Oilers coming up big against LA tonight. Perron and PRV! Woot!

  24. JDï™ says:

    Dicky94: Remember when we were in 2nd place!

    You mean in the draft? Yes. Vividly.

  25. BONE207 says:

    St Louis vs LA is edge of seat stuff tonight now that fLames won again. I trust the Oilers play accordingly the rest of the way.

  26. treevojo says:

    Solid win by the blues.

    Hopefully that will settle some of the nerves around here.

  27. BONE207 says:

    Great…LA losing but St Louis almost catching up to the Oil. Now if Arizona beats LA tomorrow. ..

  28. Zelepukin says:

    BONE207:
    Great…LA losing but St Louis almost catching up to the Oil. Now if Arizona beats LA tomorrow. ..

    A win versus Dallas and a win by Arizona would be massive. Either way it’s all going to come down to the 4 game we have against LA.

  29. Zelepukin says:

    St.Louis also plays 13 of their 17 against non-playoff teams and have won 5 in a row. Hard to expect them to fall off a cliff.

    Nashville could slide though.

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