THUNDER ROAD

On a night when the Los Angeles Kings arrived desperate and left frustrated, the Edmonton Oilers were all business and the result was never in doubt. Midway through the second period, I felt some frustration that the home team wasn’t pushing for more, and by the third expressed open concern about it. Todd McLellan’s Oilers couldn’t hear me, and kept doing their responsible work, as a former champion bled out and the curtain closed on (probably) several careers on the coast. The Edmonton Oilers have arrived as an NHL team. They can rip it up and they can grind it out, and they have two impact players who consistently lead the way. I will tell you that last night’s performance by McDavid in the first 20 was several miles beyond fantastic, one of the best individual performances I have ever seen.

BACKSTREETS, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0, goal differential -7
  • Oilers in October 2016: 7-2-0, goal differential +10
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2, goal differential -6
  • Oilers in November 2016: 5-8-2 goal differential -3
  • Oilers in December 2015: 7-6-1, goal differential -9
  • Oilers in December 2016: 7-2-5, goal differential +3
  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-5-2, goal differential -5
  • Oilers in January 2017: 9-4-1, goal differential +8
  • Oilers in February 2016: 3-8-2, goal differential -18
  • Oilers in February 2017: 6-6-0, goal differential -2
  • Oilers in March 2016: 8-8-0, goal differential +5
  • Oilers in March 2017: 5-2-1, goal differential +8
  • Oilers after 72, 2015-16: 27-38-7, goal differential -42
  • Oilers after 72, 2016-17: 39-24-9, goal differential +24
There are 10 games left in this season and all kinds of things are now coming into view. The Oilers, if they continue, are going to finish with a win total (44) that hasn’t been seen this far north in 30 years. McDavid changed everything.

 WHAT TO EXPECT FROM MARCH

  • At home to: Detroit, NY Islanders, Pittsburgh, Montreal (Expected: 2-2-0) (Actual 1-2-1)
  • At home to: Dallas, Boston, Vancouver, Los Angeles (Expected: 3-1-0) (Actual 4-0-0)
  • On the road to: Anaheim, Colorado (Expected: 1-1-0) (Actual: 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Colorado, Los Angeles, San Jose (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual: 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-5-1, 15 points in 13 games
  • Current results: 5-2-1, 11 points in 8 games

The Oilers are cooking with petrol now, and as we will discuss below, the Pacific Division is up in the air this morning. The rest of this week could see breaking news with this emerging team and we can officially begin the discussion about ideal playoff matchups.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Klefbom-Larsson went 20-19 in 16:28 and the pairing went 14-11 in over nine minutes with the Nuge line. That resembles a unit. Went 14-10 against Brown-Kopitar-Iginla and this pairing finished +1 on the evening. On a night when the Corsi for 5×5 for Edmonton was 40.83, both men had math on their side.
  • Nurse-Gryba went 13-14 in 13:51 and that standstill ratio reflects what I saw from them. Several moments of chaotic play, but overall the duo seemed able to get themselves out of trouble most of the time. Were caved 3-10 David Desharnais line (we talk about that line a lot in this context) but performed well with other lines. Nurse handled the giant LAK forwards well, winning battles and making good decisions.
  • Sekera-Russell went 8-29 in 13:13 and that includes 5-13  with Connor McDavid. The only real job the Oilers have is getting (and keeping) 97 in the offensive zone and in possession of the puck. If you do that enough, he will create goals. Does anyone doubt this? Went 4-12 against Pearson-Carter-Toffoli, that is the trio I regard as the No. 1 line.
  • Cam Talbot grabbed his second straight shutout. He has a .922SP overall and .931EV SP(No. 7 among starters), and .875 (No. 15 among starters defending against opposition PP’s.
  • Numbers via NHL.com, NaturalStatTrick and HockeyStats.ca.

1LINE

  • I think last night’s first period was the best 20 minutes in Connor McDavid’s young career. He defined the game, created several chances and posted two assists. I thought the Maroon fight in the second was a mistake, because that line was rocking and then the rhythm went away. Probably just my mind making it up, but we believe what we believe. Anyway, 97 was breathtaking.
  • Line went 15-21 (97 and Leon) together but the breakdown by pairing is incredible. McDavid went 7-10 with Klefbom, 5-13 with Sekera and 4-2 with Nurse. I know we have to look at matchups, but this line needs to be heading north with full steam and good headman passes.
  • Line went 13-16 against Pearson-Carter-Toffoli, that’s a good night considering the mindset of the Kings. A hard match (11:13).
  • Jeff Carter went 12-4 against Sekera and 3-5 against Larsson.
  • McDavid went 12-8 against Doughty, walked him like he was a mailbox.
  • Nine shots, one goal and 5 points for the line in a 2-0 game. A giant walks among us.

2LINE

  • I thought this line was effective, with and without the puck.
  • Line went 17-20 and spent extended time with the Klefbom-Larsson duo. I was so impressed by the defensive acumen, especially Nuge net front on a very good chance and Lucic with an effective check on Kopitar at the goal mouth with the puck waiting to be shoveled.
  • Went 17-20 against Kopitar in 14 minutes, that is as hard a match as you will see in the current NHL.
  • Lucic scored a nice goal, very quick reaction and he is playing his best hockey of the season. Impressive without the puck, including the Kopitar push, a shot block early and moving the puck to safe places several times.
  • Jordan Eberle is getting chances and making creative passes, I like his game over the last month.
  • Nugent-Hopkins is a cerebral center and defensively thinks the game so very well. I wish he would push offensively again, maybe that will come. Very valuable even if he plays at this level, especially for a team about to enter the playoffs.

3LINE

  • The line went 8-15 in 11 minutes, 3-1 with Klefbom and 3-10 with Nurse. Kings were shuffling lines so it is tough to spotlight specifics (Oilers Nerd Alert does a dandy job of it) but Desharnais did go 0-9 against Nic Dowd and that’s pretty stunning. He did in 2:34, too. Lordy.
  • I like this line in the offensive zone and on the forecheck, but DD seems to have some recognition issues in the defensive zone. Hopefully it gets ironed out, he certainly adds a lot to the lineup.

4LINE

  • Line went 6-7, although it wasn’t really a line for the whole night. Letestu went 4-1 with Nuge, Hendricks 2-0. The Maroon fight may have cost Caggiula in a strange way.
  • Lots of chatter everywhere about the Oilers not playing Slepyshev last night. I would like to remind you that not all of these guys make it, and every team has a Slepy and a Caggiula and a Khaira. They all have talent, but are going to need a little luck, too. Every team has a few fringe players who become favorites for fans, but generally speaking there is something they need to work on. All three Oilers prospects have something to recommend them, and I do like Slepyshev as a guy who can step up to a skill line. That said, he does lack some consistency and that may be the issue for Todd McLellan. No doubt in my mind he is a lock for the Oilers next season based on ability and performance, but I think you can say the same thing about the other two and there may not be room.

STANDINGS

Edmonton is 12 points up on LAK with 10 to play, I think it fair for us to change our focus now. Can Edmonton climb to second in the division? That would mean the first postseason game since 2006 would be at home. The goal differential among these teams suggests the Oilers earned this spot and the schedule this week sets up pretty well. I have them going 1-1 this week, this team’s road trip is shorter and easier than Calgary’s and that may be enough to open up a gap.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun morning on the way, TSN1260 beginning at 10. A fluid guest list that will include Jonathan Willis of Oilers Nation and I have a few other items planned (including curling!).

JESSE PULJUJARVI

I don’t read Finnish, but this is an interesting article based on google translate. More at 5.

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126 Responses to "THUNDER ROAD"

  1. meanashell11 says:

    Especially nice that the Flames will be without Tkachuk for the next two games.

  2. Whatif says:

    Recently I have seen a concerted effort by the Eastern media to pump Marchand for MVP consideration. There is no doubt that he is a worthy candidate. He is not, however, in the same class as Connor McDavid.

    McDavid, night after night and shift after shift, demonstrates a level of play that nobody in the NHL can match. He is a threat every shift. His energy and effort are incredible. His passing/playmaking is sublime and, as demonstrated last night, his defensive acumen is beginning to ramp up and become a factor.

    I believe it is time for the Edmonton media to begin championing McDavid as “the” choice for the Hart. If not, there is a possibility that he is over shadowed by players in the East. That would be a travesty. His contribution to the Oilers season has been remarkable and the team results have been similarly remarkable. It is time to get on this band wagon.

  3. Jethro Tull says:

    Good morning, all.

    Before we get to commenting on last night’s very impressive victory, (to me, more impressive than the 7 goal victories, we laid a ghost to bed,) i would just like to clarify something as the site’s resident limey:

    The Oilers are cooking with petrol now…..

    The phrase is in England, as it is here; cooking with gas. It comes from England originally in the late 19th/ early 20th century when natural gas stoves and ovens were just staring to be mass produced.

    Though LT may well have actually meant gasoline (or aromatic Benzene) the only reference I’ve seen him use it was as fuel for our dumpster fire team.

    Anyhoo, what a very professional performance last night. LA are done, but they’ll be back. Maybe not with Sutter, Brown, or Gaborik, but they’ll be back.

  4. Pajamah says:

    Couple items. Saw Woodguy retweet some goalie stats that centre Vezina discussions around Holtby, Goalie Bob, and a certain Cameron Talbot. Legit, and fantastic to see.

    Secondly, St. Louis has the easiest schedule left, and are 5 back of Calgary

    Assuming the Flegms have used up all their luck, there is a chance St. Louis can catch them and Calgary will be forced to play Chicago or Minny. Meanwhile St. Louis can big boy the Sharks and wear them down. Its win-win. A tired Sharks in the second round. Calgary playing the more difficult opponent and ultimately losing.

    Thoughts?

  5. oilman says:

    Was at the game last night – the first period from McDavid was the best performance I’ve ever had the pleasure of witnessing live. Could have had 5 or 6 points in the first. He was breaking up the “Go Oilers Go” chants mid sentence because people would just stop in awe. It was crazy.

  6. Durag says:

    I’m thinking back to that clip of Doughty telling Maroon “you’re terrible at hockey” when Maroon was on the Ducks. I wonder if it crossed Doughty’s mind as he had a front row seat to Maroon putting in his 25th of the season and knocking the Kings out of the playoffs. 🙂

  7. Pouzar says:

    I dunno how a guy can lack consistency if he isn’t in the lineup consistently.
    There was nothing on merit or strategy that should have taken Slepy out of the lineup.

  8. hunter1909 says:

    Hunter1909 2016-17 Oiler’s Springtime Death March Update for 21.3.17

    With the arrival of spring today, the Oilers are 99 points at the finish line according to recent math.

    These are the Oilers Death March players who have correctly predicted a 99 point finish to end the 2016-17 season:

    Nate 780
    Gordies Elbow
    Shane
    Cahoon
    Oil Hub
    Zelepukin
    Mr Sakich
    Stush 18
    Judged Rude

    These are the current Death Marchers with the best prediction to date.

  9. Pescador says:

    https://www.kimballstock.com/pix/DOG/02/DOG-02-RK0055-03P.JPG
    Drew Doughty arriving at Rogers last night.
    Thought Klefbom had a good game, maybe not his best. He is incredible skating back into our zone retrieving the puck and getting it moving in the other direction. I’ll never get tired of watching that.
    playing hockey against Adam Larsson does not look like any kind of fun

  10. Ducey says:

    meanashell11:
    Especially nice that the Flames will be without Tkachuk for the next two games.

    Its funny.

    This time last year, many around here were convinced the Oilers were going to take him, and were inclined to call them idiots as he was going to be a flop.

    You know: The Oilers will take Tkachuk, because Oilers.

    As I recall: couldn’t skate, cheated for offense, zoomed by his line mates.

    Turns out, he is the third best pick out of that draft (with miles and miles to go).

  11. hunter1909 says:

    After last nights game we can safely eliminate the LAK from serious playoff discussion.

    Ditto the once mighty Boston Bruins, after last week’s decimation/biatch slapping.

    One LAK fan wrote something to the effect that Oilers were fine tuning themselves for the playoffs, while the LAK team were skating with the look of death – great analysis.

    McDavid’s no slouch either.

  12. Bag of Pucks says:

    Last night’s game was a great example of how skill can be complimented by size and will. Two great passes from Connor converted by two big boys driving the slot.

    For years, the Oil were a perimeter team that perennially got their heads kicked in by the big bad bullies from LA. Great feeling this morning to know that this team is not only playoff bound but they have players on the roster that are well suited for playoff style hockey.

    You want to get cocky? Let’s play some hockey!

    Well played, Mr. Chiarelli.

  13. hunter1909 says:

    Ducey: Its funny.

    This time last year, many around here were convinced the Oilers were going to take him, and were inclined to call them idiots as he was going to be a flop.

    You know: The Oilers will take Tkachuk, because Oilers.

    As I recall: couldn’t skate, cheated for offense, zoomed by his line mates.

    Turns out, he is the third best pick out of that draft (with miles and miles to go).

    Good player. Oilers have Lucic Kassian Maroon Nurse so its not the end of the world.

    Nest season Oilers should have that Finnish teenager ready for training camp. Looks like a great talent.

  14. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    WC standings using points %. Shown as “points over/under .500” to see spreads between teams.

    CHI 27
    MIN 21
    SJS 19
    EDM 15
    ANA 15
    CGY 14-1st wildcard
    NSH 11
    STL 10-2nd wildcard
    ——————
    LAK 3
    WPG -1
    DAL -4
    VAN -6
    ARI -11
    COL -28

    EDM has H2H tiebreak w/ ANA so they sit 2nd.

    The fork is in LAK and they meat has been cut open to check “doneness”

    CGY on a 3 game road trip vs WSH, NSH and STL.

    In their 12-1-0 run over the last 13 games, CGY played 4 teams in a playoff spot and 9 out of playoff spot.

    They are 9-0-0 vs the non-playoff teams and vs playoff teams they:

    -Beat NSH in OT
    -Beat MTL 5-0 (Price didn’t play)
    -Beat PIT in SO
    -Lost to BOS

    These next 3 games will tell us much more about CGY than the last 13.

    WC games tonight:

    CGY at WSH – Matt Tkacooke starts his 2 game suspension and he’s been dynamite all year with Backlund and Frolik on this tough minutes line. He’ll be missed.

    ARI at TBY – TBY still has a chance and should win here

    PHI at WPG – The last 6 years in WPG has the same result at the last 6 in ATL. 1 playoff round, swept.

    SJS at MIN – The battle of the sliding teams. MIN can’t get a stop from Doobie and SJS can’t beat teams who played the night before. Interesting to see what happens. SJS played last night in DAL. Not easy.

    VAN at CHI – CHI should roll, but VAN traps and CHI had troubles with that in OTT, albeit vs OTT and not VAN

    STL at COL – STL continues the easy finish to their schedule and should win

  15. treevojo says:

    Pajamah:
    Couple items. Saw Woodguy retweet some goalie stats that centre Vezina discussions around Holtby, Goalie Bob, and a certain Cameron Talbot. Legit, and fantastic to see.

    Secondly, St. Louis has the easiest schedule left, and are 5 back of Calgary

    Assuming the Flegms have used up all their luck, there is a chance St. Louis can catch them and Calgary will be forced to play Chicago or Minny. Meanwhile St. Louis can big boy the Sharks and wear them down. Its win-win. A tired Sharks in the second round. Calgary playing the more difficult opponent and ultimately losing.

    Thoughts?

    The Oilers record vs pacific.

    14-4-3

    If the sharks lose to Minnesota tonight and the Oilers slap around the ducks tomorrow we will be sitting two points out of first in a division we have dominated this year.

    I like our chances for home ice advantage coming out of the pacific.

  16. Professor Q says:

    Interesting about Puljüjarvi. Really pulling for him.

    Sad that cultures, languages, and styles have been difficult hurdles thus far.

    That said, I think many of us are unimpressed with Fleming. Something is amiss in Bakersfield.

  17. Bag of Pucks says:

    Mixed feelings on Maroon fighting Iginla. On one hand, I agree with LT that Maroon in the box is disruptive for the line and apparently even Connor tried to cool him off fighting.

    On the other hand, Iggy is a great fighter. When you stand in against him, even at 39, you’re going to take some bombs. As a teammate on the bench, if I saw one of our Top 3 Fs willing to drop the gloves against that guy, it sends a very strong message that no one on the team is above the dirty work.

    I thought Matt Hendricks summed it up very well in a between periods interview with Principe earlier this year. “There is a lot of big brothers in that locker room.” Yes there is, and man is it great to see how they’ve pulled together as a team and stick up for each other.

    One for all and all for one. That mindset can carry you a long way in the playoffs.

    At some point in the playoffs, the opposition is going to start taking liberties against McDavid and TMac will send out Lucic, Maroon, Kassian, Nurse, and Larsson. THAT will be a fun shift to watch.

  18. Diablo says:

    Pouzar:
    I dunno how a guy can lack consistency if he isn’t in the lineup consistently.
    There was nothing on merit or strategy that should have taken Slepy out of the lineup.

    I don’t think Slepy did anything wrong or that the coaching staff is unhappy with his play – TMac wants to keep everybody fresh going into the playoffs – its a war of attrition and he doesn’t want anyone going stale sitting in the PB (well except for LB) – so we’re going to see this musical chairs act with Slepy, Caggiula, Hendricks and Khaira even, until the end of the season. Slepy will be back in the line up soon.

    Pescador:
    https://www.kimballstock.com/pix/DOG/02/DOG-02-RK0055-03P.JPG
    Drew Doughty arriving at Rogers last night.
    Thought Klefbom had a good game, maybe not his best. He is incredible skating back into our zone retrieving the puck and getting it moving in the other direction. I’ll never get tired of watching that.
    playing hockey against Adam Larsson does not look like any kind of fun

    Lol nice!

    Glad to see the Larsson appreciation society pick up steam.

  19. who says:

    Great first period last night. Didn’t see how they could maintain that pace for 60 minutes but it sure was fun to watch.
    Kings are an interesting case study. Everyone talks about the bad contracts but they really only have two. Brown and Gaborik. I think Kopitar will rebound and Carter and Doughty are worth every penny.
    It’s also worth noting that those contracts helped win their two cups and most franchises would consider two cups in the last 5 years an excellent result. It is a difficult trap to not fall into cause you want to win while your core are in their prime.
    That’s what makes the Hawks run so amazing. They correctly identified their core and then refused to give out big contracts to their role players. They won three cups with three different teams and have to be considered a strong contender this year and in the near future.
    To me, that is what a dynasty looks like in a salary cap league. Hopefully the Oilers are trying to imitate this model.

  20. Bag of Pucks says:

    who:
    To me, that is what a dynasty looks like in a salary cap league. Hopefully the Oilers are trying to imitate this model.

    If they are, I fear the Lucic contract may be a bad start. I very much like the player in the shortterm, but that deal could easily be a Dustin Brown or Mike Richards contract by year 4. Like the Hawks, Chiarelli will need to find creative ways to ship those contracts before they trend to untradeable.

  21. jonrmcleod says:

    Jethro Tull,

    My Dad would always say “cookin’ with grease.”

  22. Pescador says:

    Morning Lowetide,
    JJ, Cags, & Slepyshev are 3 forwards that are not yet established, agreed.
    Not all Oiler prospects are going to be here their entire career, agreed.
    We all have our favourites, agreed.
    For me, all 3 of these players have a different ceiling, Slepyshev has the highest.
    Anyway have a great show, I will be listening intently.

  23. Pouzar says:

    Diablo,

    Obviously most people here are fine with it so I’ll shut about it.
    I’ll never understand it but it is what it is.

  24. leadfarmer says:

    Maroon should not be fighting this close to the playoffs. Last thing we need is for him to be out 6 weeks with a broken hand

  25. treevojo says:

    Bag of Pucks: If they are, I fear the Lucic contract may be a bad start. I very much like the player in the shortterm, but that deal could easily be a Dustin Brown or Mike Richards contract by year 4. Like the Hawks, Chiarelli will need to find creative ways to ship those contracts before they trend to untradeable.

    How is he supposed to do that?

    I was told the minute that contract was signed it was worth less then a 7th Rd pick and it has only dropped in value since.

  26. Mr. D. says:

    Pouzar:
    I dunno how a guy can lack consistency if he isn’t in the lineup consistently.
    There was nothing on merit or strategy that should have taken Slepy out of the lineup.

    Think you’re missing something..injuries..keep backups fresh…adjust to competition.

  27. Diablo says:

    Professor Q:
    Interesting about Puljüjarvi. Really pulling for him.

    Sad that cultures, languages, and styles have been difficult hurdles thus far.

    Laine’s not much better with protecting the puck – he’s got the elite shot, which is the big thing that separates him from Jesse at this point – otherwise there’s a lot a chaos at both ends of the rink when he’s on the ice.. Jesse having to learn to become a more complete player at this stage in the game is not a bad thing IMO.

  28. treevojo says:

    Pouzar:
    Diablo,

    Obviously most people here are fine with it so I’ll shut about it.
    I’ll never understand it but it is what it is.

    I understand your concern with wanting to ice the optimal lineup every night.

    I just don’t get the surprise and outrage when it doesn’t happen.

    Since the trade deadline Todd has made it clear he is going to be shifting players in and out of the lineup to keep everybody engaged.

    Hopefully it is khaira’s chance next.

  29. Bag of Pucks says:

    treevojo: How is he supposed to do that?

    I was told the minute that contract was signed it was worth less then a 7th Rd pick and it has only dropped in value since.

    I would respectfully suggest that whoever told you that has shit for brains.

  30. hags9k says:

    Woodguy v2.0: The fork is in LAK and they meat has been cut open to check “doneness”

    This made me giggle.

    And there’s barely any pink in there! Actually you all know never to do that when grilling. I highly recommend a digital thermometer, it has really stepped up my grill game. No more overdone chicken or chops, but I digress.

    Fuck you Kings!

  31. Pouzar says:

    Mr. D.: Think you’re missing something..injuries..keep backups fresh…adjust to competition.

    What injuries? Play your best players. This isn’t hard.

  32. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    EC standings using points %. Shown as “points over/under .500” to see spreads between teams.

    CBJ 29
    WSH 29
    PIT 28
    NYR 21-1st wildcard
    MTL 18
    OTT 15
    TOR 10
    BOS 10-2nd wildcard
    ——————-
    NYI 7
    TBY 6
    PHI 3
    CAR 3
    FLA 2
    BUF -1
    DET -4
    NJD -7

    First time TOR isn’t 8th or 9th in a long time. Very good chance to make it.

    Time’s ticking away on NYI and TBY.

    EC games tonight:

    CGY at WSH – after a shitting California trip WSH has won 3 in a row. I expect them to win this too.

    OTT as BOS – Big game for BOS after losing in TOR last night. They aren’t a lock yet and the Trappy Bastards of Ottawa are beating real teams

    PIT at BUF – BUF isn’t going quietly and could be a trap game for PIT. Or they could drop 7 on BUF.

    NYR at NJD – NYR is kinda meandering along not doing much of anything. NJD is playing dead.

    ARI at TBY – TBY isn’t done, but they can’t do anything but win here

    CAR at FLA – 2 favorites of some of the fancystaters. One day CAR will hire NHL goalies and some forwards who score at better than 8% for their careers and they’ll be good. Go Nords!!

    PHI at WPG – Two Uecker teams. “Just a bit outside”

  33. who says:

    Bag of Pucks: If they are, I fear the Lucic contract may be a bad start. I very much like the player in the shortterm, but that deal could easily be a Dustin Brown or Mike Richards contract by year 4. Like the Hawks, Chiarelli will need to find creative ways to ship those contracts before they trend to untradeable.

    Agreed. Although if we get the Lucic of the last couple weeks for the next 4 or 5 years I can live with the contract. I would not have said this a month ago. Maybe it took this long to get comfortable. Or maybe he really can just turn it on or off at will and was just saving himself for this time of year. He was scary bad for the first half season.
    Moving forward I think how the team deals with the Russell and Maroon contracts will tell us a lot. They do have their defense core locked in long term at a very reasonable price. Hope they don’t waste these savings on other bad contracts.

  34. hags9k says:

    Re: Sleppy.

    Didn’t we all agree some time ago that Caggiula would have been guaranteed a certain NHL GP total?

    That will have consequences.

  35. Lloyd B. says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    SJS have a brutal couple of weeks to end the season.

    I reckon it is going to be a four horse race for the playoff seeding in the Pacific.

  36. Pouzar says:

    treevojo: I understand your concern with wanting to ice the optimal lineup every night.

    I just don’t get the surprise and outrage when it doesn’t happen.

    Since the trade deadline Todd has made it clear he is going to be shifting players in and out of the lineup to keep everybody engaged.

    Hopefully it is khaira’s chance next.

    One. I think Hendricks isn’t an NHL caliber player. I just don’t.

    Two. I don’t buy the “keeping guys fresh” narrative. Khaira is proof of that. When was the last time he’s played?

    Three. Where is accountability for shitty play and reward for good play?

    Four. Don’t confuse rage with confusion. Ok…..maybe a little rage. 😛

    Look guys, I know the eyes lie and all that but if you really like what you see out of Hendricks right now then tell me I am full of shit. I just don’t see an NHL caliber skater/playmaker there. Sorry.

    I will give it up. Honestly.

    Starting…………NOW!

  37. treevojo says:

    Bag of Pucks: I would respectfully suggest that whoever told you that has shit for brains.

    And up goes the signal over Gotham.

  38. dustrock says:

    My quick thoughts:

    (1) McDavid will get a bunch of votes but I don’t think he will win the Hart. Reason? Well, partially, honestly, resentment from the Eastern media, but also, I am guessing there will be a sense of “well, he’s going to win like 5 in a row, and he’s still young, it’s not his time yet”. We see this in sports all the time. Michael Jordan didn’t get the MVP for years because his greatness was taken for granted. We see it in every sport’s Hall of Fame voting (“not this year, maybe next time”.)

    (2) I thought Talbot would be on the outside looking in to Holtby , Bob, and Dubnyk, but Minnesota has faded a bit recently, and Chicago has outpaced them. Shouldn’t overlook a fantastic season by Dubnyk, but the recent narrative might be that he slipped as time went on.

    (3) Certain people will have their heads explode if this happens, but you have to think Chiarelli gets some votes for Executive of the Year.

  39. treevojo says:

    Pouzar: One. I think Hendricks isn’t an NHL caliber player. I just don’t.

    Two. I don’t buy the “keeping guys fresh” narrative. Khaira is proof of that. When was the last time he’s played?

    Three. Where is accountability for shitty play and reward for good play?

    Four. Don’t confuse rage with confusion. Ok…..maybe a little rage.

    Look guys, I know the eyes lie and all that but if you really like what you see out of Hendricks right now then tell me I am full of shit. I just don’t see an NHL caliber skater/playmaker there. Sorry.

    I will give it up. Honestly.

    Starting…………NOW!

    I honestly don’t see Hendrix as bad as a lot of the posters do here.

    I think when they eyes are searching for something they tend to find it.

  40. hags9k says:

    leadfarmer:
    Maroon should not be fighting this close to the playoffs.Last thing we need is for him to be out 6 weeks with a broken hand

    Yeah hate to say it but you are right. They (Maroon, Lucic) should now be picking their spots a little more carefully at the least. And if something comes up that requires the cops, then Gryba, Hendricks and Krazy Eyes should be first the first cars on the scene.

  41. anjinsan says:

    Does Russell sink Sekera or Sekera Russell????

    It’s is beyond me as in over the yon horizon why anyone would want Russell resigned. I love his courage and all that….but no way.

    Would bringing Schultz back be anathema? Fast, smart, RHD PP QB?

  42. Professor Q says:

    Diablo: Laine’s not much better with protecting the puck – he’s got the elite shot, which is the big thing that separates him from Jesse at this point – otherwise there’s a lot a chaos at both ends of the rink when he’s on the ice.. Jesse having to learn to become a more complete player at this stage in the game is not a bad thing IMO.

    Yes, I know. I was more so commenting on how Jesse seemed to admit that the dual culture shocks of Edmonton and Bakersfield got to him, as have the languages.

    Odd that he and Fleming are on him about his shot while Chia and McLellan praise it.

  43. Jethro Tull says:

    treevojo: I honestly don’t see Hendrix as bad as a lot of the posters do here.

    I think when they eyes are searching for something they tend to find it.

    Yep, confirmation bias for sure.

  44. Woogie63 says:

    Pescador:
    Morning Lowetide,
    JJ, Cags, & Slepyshev are 3 forwards that are not yet established, agreed.
    Not all Oiler prospects are going to be here their entire career, agreed.
    We all have our favourites, agreed.
    For me, all 3 of these players have a different ceiling, Slepyshev has the highest.
    Do you believe the Oilers can afford to piss away a talented prospect, by sitting him even after he performs well. Of course you don’t.
    Matt Hendricks does not bring more of anything to the table right now. Except age.
    It seems as though you don’t get what all the fuss is about, hope I’m not putting words in your mouth.
    Anyway have a great show, I will be listening intently.

    On your point about Hendricks ….I see it quite different.

    Right now he is PK1 and doing a good job, the Oilers use three PK forward units that can cycle through 2X which means PK1 is one the ice twice for each kill.

    Sportsnet commented on the emotion on the bench with and without Hendricks, it can’t be measured but it is a thing. I guarantee if LAK scored to make the score 2-1 last night; the next shift is Connor’s line and then Letestu’s (with Hendricks) line to keep the game in check ….this is an important option for a coach.

    I love Slepyshev, but he is playing about right for a rookie and he is getting better as the season moves on … good teams have more options, for a big game last night two rookies watched and two veterans played on the surface that sounds reasonable.

  45. treevojo says:

    anjinsan:
    Does Russell sink Sekera or Sekera Russell????

    It’s is beyond me as in over the yon horizon why anyone would want Russell resigned.I love his courage and all that….but no way.

    Would bringing Schultz back be anathema?Fast, smart, RHD PP QB?

    I don’t think sinking and that pair should be used in the same sentence.

    DEF 5v5 GA60 >1000MINS

    6. Kris Russel 1.66

    10. Andrej Sekera 1.79

  46. Ducey says:

    Pouzar: One. I think Hendricks isn’t an NHL caliber player. I just don’t.

    Two. I don’t buy the “keeping guys fresh” narrative. Khaira is proof of that. When was the last time he’s played?

    Three. Where is accountability for shitty play and reward for good play?

    Four. Don’t confuse rage with confusion. Ok…..maybe a little rage.

    Look guys, I know the eyes lie and all that but if you really like what you see out of Hendricks right now then tell me I am full of shit. I just don’t see an NHL caliber skater/playmaker there. Sorry.

    I will give it up. Honestly.

    Starting…………NOW!

    I generally agree with you on most things, but to me, the fact they have a rotation of players is a terrific strength. Depth is good.

    They have been healthier than previous years. Perhaps this is due to the rotation, but certainly if someone is hurt, they can sub in someone who plays somewhat regularly.

    It keeps players accountable, they can practice more (if they are not playing), they see the game from the pressbox, coach can play the hot hand, or shake up the team after a loss, and they can play players that match well with their opposition.

    I would think too, that the coach has a lot better sense of who should be in and out than we do. Guys could be dealing with minor injuries, and maybe they even have some fancy stats input. Heck, Slepy being out may have little to do with him and more about opposition or getting others going.

  47. dustrock says:

    treevojo: I don’t think sinking and that pair should be used in the same sentence.

    DEF 5v5 GA60 >1000MINS

    6. Kris Russel1.66

    10. AndrejSekera1.79

    And yet, if you take away GA/60, and look at Corsi & Fenwick, I believe Russell sinks Sekera on those stats.

  48. Ducey says:

    treevojo: I honestly don’t see Hendrix as bad as a lot of the posters do here.

    For me, he hasn’t been the same since he passed away

  49. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    dustrock,

    I don’t disagree with any of that but would like to add a quick qualifier, that being just how wide open the Pacific division race is. Say hypothetically speaking that the Oilers run the table to close out the year, Talbot wins 42, McDavid is tied and and end up winning or say tied for the Pacific title.

    Now I know i have Oilers bias as the day is long but can anyone say there isn’t a legitimate case to be made for say:

    Hart – McDavid
    Art Ross – McDavid
    Vezina – Talbot
    Jack Adams – TMac
    Exec – Chia

    Again Oilers bias at play but they finished 29th last year and have sucked for a decade, very important criteria for the last two especially

  50. Scungilli says:

    hags9k: Yeah hate to say it but you are right.They (Maroon, Lucic) should now be picking their spots a little more carefully at the least.And if something comes up that requires the cops, then Gryba, Hendricks and Krazy Eyes should be first the first cars on the scene.

    I agree. The less you do something really helpful – score a lot or shut down the D zone like Larsson, the more you get first responder status. Kassian is actually the most productive of the destructive -P/60 I believe.

    It’s been a very long time since the Oilers could beat the daylights out of the other teams. Like 30 years for this level of team toughness.

  51. Admiral Ackbar says:

    McD should be an unquestioning top of the Hart conversation. Most points, doesn’t have Malkin playing behind him. All due respect to Marchand, but his team isn’t doing as well as the Oilers with more established players.

    He is also walking Norris trophy winners like they are nothing more than a speedbump.

    If all continues and he doesn’t win it this year, I submit this as evidence of eastern bias.

  52. Snellbert19 says:

    Admiral Ackbar,

    Does Jeff O’Niell get to vote?

  53. Yeti says:

    treevojo: I honestly don’t see Hendrix as bad as a lot of the posters do here.

    That’s because you’re a voodoo chile.

  54. dustrock says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    dustrock,

    I don’t disagree with any of that but would like to add a quick qualifier, that being just how wide open the Pacific division race is. Say hypothetically speaking that the Oilers run the table to close out the year, Talbot wins 42, McDavid is tied andand end up winning or say tied for the Pacific title.

    Now I know i have Oilers bias as the day is long but can anyone say there isn’t a legitimate case to be made for say:

    Hart – McDavid
    Art Ross – McDavid
    Vezina – Talbot
    Jack Adams – TMac
    Exec – Chia

    Again Oilers bias at play but they finished 29th last year and have sucked for a decade, very important criteria for the last two especially

    Of course you can make a case for this.

    I refer you to the case of Taylor Hall v. Ovechkin (LW) & Ovechkin (RW)

    Voters are dumb and biased.

  55. Woogie63 says:

    After 10 years of early golf seasons, I am glad we have a coaching staff and GM that have been here before.

    I hope we block out all the trophy talk, all the finish first talk, all the play off match up talk.

    The team focus imo, needs to be on;

    1) Mathematically confirming a play-off spot
    2) Managing Talbot/McDavid to be peaking for the play-offs
    3) Play our best hockey for the last three games of the regular season
    4) Be as injury free as you can

  56. treevojo says:

    Ducey,

    Yeti,

    For me, typing Hendrix just looks cooler.

    So I’m sticking with it.

  57. Coffeys_Messy_eh says:

    McDavid should win the Hart in a walk. It will probably be closer than that, but I’m inclined to believe that his greatness will transcend any Eastern bias that may or may not exist in reality.

    The perception, league wide, of Taylor Hall’s abilities suffered from Edmonton’s geographic isolation AND the team’s general incompetence, but 97 is simply too good for that to apply to him, plus the team is no longer a foetid pile of excrement. There will always be some contrarians (h/t to whoever it was that posted the video of Gzowski “debating” the other fellow about Gretzky) but McDavid’s hockey prowess relative to his peers is surely too obvious to overlook.

  58. Woogie63 says:

    According to Article 13 Section 12 Subsection l:

    During the period following 3:00 p.m. New York time of the fortieth (40th) day immediately preceding the final day of the Regular Season no Player may be Recalled from Loan to a club of any league affiliated with the NHL, except that:
    (i) A Club may exercise four (4) recalls from a club or clubs of any league affiliated with the NHL, of Player(s) listed on its own Reserve List.
    (ii) Players may be Recalled under Article 13.12(m).
    (iii) Players may be Recalled upon completion of the regular season and playoff schedule of the club to which they were Loaned.
    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I would anticipate our “Black Aces”this year

    Lander
    Reinhart
    Oesterle
    JP
    Ellis

  59. Bismarck says:

    Admiral Ackbar,

    I think there is a very strong case for McDavid to win the Hart, but let’s not overlook the fact that the most important 10 games of the season are upon us. What teams and players do with those games has an “overweight” effect on the season’s narratives (discuss amongst yourselves whether or not this is fair).

    Suggesting that McDavid should be the unquestioned recipient of the Hart is not unlike the annoying promotion of the “Play of the Game” in a 1-goal contest with 5 minutes left. Premature and not helpful.

    Let’s agree that after his body of work this far McDavid is in an intimate conversation regarding who should be recognized as the league’s MVP. Anything more shows a bit of disrespect for the game and its elite players.

    All this being said, there is in my opinion an unquestionable Eastern bias in the media, evidenced by having to sit through 15 mins of Grapefruit League updates from Jays training camp and Raptors highlights on Sportscentre before getting to certain updates from the Western conference. There’s your bias.

  60. Pescador says:

    Woogie63: On your point about Hendricks ….I see it quite different.

    Right now he is PK1 and doing a good job, the Oilers use three PK forward unitsthat can cycle through 2X which means PK1 is one the ice twice for each kill.

    Sportsnet commented on the emotion on the bench with and without Hendricks, it can’t be measured but it is a thing.I guarantee if LAK scored to make the score 2-1 last night; the next shift is Connor’s line and then Letestu’s(with Hendricks) line to keep the game in check ….this is an important option for a coach.

    I love Slepyshev, but he is playing about right for a rookie and he is getting better as the season moves on … good teams have more options, for a big game last night two rookies watched and two veterans played on the surface that sounds reasonable.

    Hey Woog,
    Your point is well taken, in fairness to myself I deleted a portion of this post, especially the part where I sound like an asshole. My main point was trying to focus on player potential, I don’t have Cagullia & Khaira in the same boat as Slepyshev.

  61. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Snellbert19,

    I wonder if he knows how ridiculous he sounds there. It’s just no contest. Leaf-Evangelists need more science in their life.

  62. Pescador says:

    Woogie63:
    According to Article 13 Section 12 Subsection l:

    During the period following 3:00 p.m. New York time of the fortieth (40th) day immediately preceding the final day of the Regular Season no Player may be Recalled from Loan to a club of any league affiliated with the NHL, except that:
    (i) A Club may exercise four (4) recalls from a club or clubs of any league affiliated with the NHL, of Player(s) listed on its own Reserve List.
    (ii) Players may be Recalled under Article 13.12(m).
    (iii) Players may be Recalled upon completion of the regular season and playoff schedule of the club to which they were Loaned.
    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I would anticipate our “Black Aces”this year

    Lander
    Reinhart
    Oesterle
    JP
    Ellis

    Do teams get an emergency call up if one of their goalies get injured? Or should I read this as 3 out players & better save the last one in case you need that goalie? Thx

  63. Coffeys_Messy_eh says:

    There’s also this:

    #OilersModel pic.twitter.com/QBa717SLZm— Dimitri Filipovic (@DimFilipovic) March 21, 2017

  64. rickithebear says:

    The Core players Cap control in 17-18
    Puljujarvi 2ELC + 6-8yr (PC 16 Draft)
    Mcdavid 1 ELC + 6-8yr (MacT won Lottery)
    Draisatl 6-8yr (MacT 14 draft)
    Lucic 6yr (PC UFA)
    Klefbom 6yr (Tambo 11 Draft)
    Khaira 6yr to UFA (Tambo 12 draft)
    Nurse 1 ELC + 4 to UFA (Mact 13 Draft
    Slepyshev 1ELC + 4 to UFA (Mact 13 draft)
    Cagggulia 1ELC + 4yr to UFA (Mact/Bucky)
    Benning 1 ELC + 4 yr to UFA ( Mact/Bucky)
    RNH 4yrs (Tambo 11 Draft)
    Sekera 4yr (PC UFA)
    Larsson 4yr (PC trade)
    Broissoit 1yr + 3 to UFA (Mact Trade)
    ————————————————-
    Pakarinen 3yr to UFA (Mact UFA)
    Pitlick 3 YR to UFA (Tambo 10 draft)
    Kassian 2yr to UFA (PC Trade)
    Eberle 2yr (Tambo 08 Draft)
    Pouliot 2yr (Mact UFA)
    Talbot 2yr (Mact arranged trade)
    Letestu 1yr (PC UFA)
    Maroon 1yr (PC Trade)
    Fayne 1yr (MacT UFA)
    Korpikoski 1yr (1M buyout)

    19-20 Controlled
    XXX- Mcdavid (M) – Draisatl (M)
    Lucic (P) – RNH (T) – Puljujarvi (P)
    Caggulia (M) – Khaira (T) – Slepyshev (M)

    Klefbom (T) – Larsson (P)
    Sekera (P) – XXX
    Nurse (M) – Benning (M)

    Broissoit (M)

  65. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Bismarck,

    You’re absolutely right. These next 10 games are vital to the final narratives of the season. Still, a lot of teams stop playing their elite players for a bit of a rest before the playoffs, so given the history of selecting Hart trophy recipients, the entire body of work and the final resting place of their team are greater determinants of who wins.

    I definitely want to pay homage to the other great performers this year, hence why I suggest McD should be at the top of the conversation. I certainly don’t think it should be handed to him and there is room for debate. He should however be the first one mentioned in said debate.

  66. StixMalone says:

    TMac should not win the Jack Adams. That dreaded curse that follows after winning it seals a coaches fate. Bruce might be cheering for it but not me! And I’m not superstitious…at least I think I’m not!

  67. rickithebear says:

    Woogie63:
    After 10 years of early golf seasons, I am glad we have a coaching staff and GM that have been here before.

    I hope we block out all the trophy talk, all the finish first talk, all the play off match up talk.

    The team focus imo, needs to be on;

    1) Mathematically confirming a play-off spot
    2) Managing Talbot/McDavid to be peaking for the play-offs
    3) Play our best hockey for the last three games of the regular season
    4) Be as injury free as you can

    When I first looked at Chicago’s Cup winner they had asset acquisition dating back 10 years.
    Partnered with a strong 3 years period of top end Acquisition.

    Eberle (T) 08
    Pitlick (T) 10
    RNH (T) 11
    Klefbom (T) 11
    Khaira (T) 12
    ————————– Tambo GM
    Nurse (M) 13
    Slepyshev (M) 13
    Broissoit (M) 13
    Draisatl (M) 14
    Pouliot (M) 14
    Fayne (M) 14
    Pakarinen (M) 14
    Talbot (M) 15
    Mcdavid (M) 15
    ————————– MacT GM
    Sekera (P) 15
    Letestu (P) 15
    Kassian (P) 15
    Maroon (P) 16
    Cagggulia (M) 16
    Puljujarvi (P) 16
    Larsson (P) 16
    Korpikoski (P) 16 1M buyout
    Lucic (P) 16
    Benning (M) 16

    From june 2008 to April 13
    Tambo 5/23 roster players

    April 13 to April 15
    Mact 9/23 Roster

    Apr 15 to Present
    PC 7/23 Roster
    Mact 2/23 Roater

  68. russ99 says:

    rickithebear,

    McDavid and Talbot are Chiarelli players.

  69. Visually better says:

    I have a certain friend who played for Gerry Fleming last year and had nothing good to say about him st all. Said the room didn’t respect him at all…

  70. HT Joe says:

    russ99:
    rickithebear,

    McDavid and Talbot are Chiarelli players.

    That’s limiting… McDavid is not just a Chiarelli player… every GM in the league would love to have him. McDavid is an Everyone-player.

  71. HT Joe says:

    HT Joe: That’s limiting… McDavid is not just a Chiarelli player… every GM in the league would love to have him.McDavid is an Everyone-player.

    Oh… I’m backing up here and paying attention to context.

    I tend to agree with Ricki on this one though… without MacT’s management that year, the Oilers wouldn’t have won the McDavid lottery, and just as we know the sun will rise tomorrow, MacT would have selected McDavid at the draft.

    Chia calling Connor’s name first overall was not the act that earned the team McDavid.

  72. Professor Q says:

    Visually better:
    I have a certain friend who played for Gerry Fleming last year and had nothing good to say about him st all. Said the room didn’t respect him at all…

    I wonder how much it would take to convince Kreuger to coach Bakersfield?

  73. Yeti says:

    Professor Q: I wonder how much it would take to convince Kreuger to coach Bakersfield?

    Now that would be one interesting Skype conversation.

  74. who says:

    Pouzar: One. I think Hendricks isn’t an NHL caliber player. I just don’t.

    Two. I don’t buy the “keeping guys fresh” narrative. Khaira is proof of that. When was the last time he’s played?

    Three. Where is accountability for shitty play and reward for good play?

    Four. Don’t confuse rage with confusion. Ok…..maybe a little rage.

    Look guys, I know the eyes lie and all that but if you really like what you see out of Hendricks right now then tell me I am full of shit. I just don’t see an NHL caliber skater/playmaker there. Sorry.

    I will give it up. Honestly.

    Starting…………NOW!

    I agree with everything you are saying about this player. I think playing him every second or third game is okay, especially if you can slot him in against slower teams. It may not give you the optimum lineup but I don’t think it’s a death blow to the team.
    I do feel bad for Hendricks cause I see the effort he is putting in. Being an old fart myself, I have been through this. You know where you are supposed to go and when you are supposed to be there, but you have no energy left to win a puck battle and your brain is too oxegyn starved to make a play. Very frustrating.
    It’s very noticeable with him now. He’s actually toe picking and falling down on his own a lot.

  75. digger50 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Mixed feelings on Maroon fighting Iginla. On one hand, I agree with LT that Maroon in the box is disruptive for the line and apparently even Connor tried to cool him off fighting.

    On the other hand, Iggy is a great fighter. When you stand in against him, even at 39, you’re going to take some bombs. As a teammate on the bench, if I saw one of our Top 3 Fs willing to drop the gloves against that guy, it sends a very strong message that no one on the team is above the dirty work.

    I thought Matt Hendricks summed it up very well in a between periods interview with Principe earlier this year. “There is a lot of big brothers in that locker room.” Yes there is, and man is it great to see how they’ve pulled together as a team and stick up for each other.

    One for all and all for one. That mindset can carry you a long way in the playoffs.

    At some point in the playoffs, the opposition is going to start taking liberties against McDavid and TMac will send out Lucic, Maroon, Kassian, Nurse, and Larsson. THAT will be a fun shift to watch.

    You forget Gryba. Who has more hits and sent more players to the dressing room for ice and attention than the others.

    Wait, I missed your intent. So I guess Grubs goes out and it’s too many men on the ice.

  76. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    hags9k: This made me giggle.

    And there’s barely any pink in there!Actually you all know never to do that when grilling.I highly recommend a digital thermometer, it has really stepped up my grill game.No more overdone chicken or chops, but I digress.

    Fuck you Kings!

    Thermopen changed my life.

  77. Moose says:

    Professor Q:
    Interesting about Puljüjarvi. Really pulling for him.

    Sad that cultures, languages, and styles have been difficult hurdles thus far.

    That said, I think many of us are unimpressed with Fleming. Something is amiss in Bakersfield.

    Given how bad the ice is at Rogers, maybe we’d be stifling 97’s offense by having home ice in playoffs. 😉

    In all seriousness, I’d take any matchup in the Pacific at this point. Would just like to stay out of the WC cross-over spot.

  78. Moose says:

    Also, no clue why it quoted that post in my reply. Weird.

  79. ashley says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    WC standings using points %. Shown as “points over/under .500” to see spreads between teams.

    CHI27
    MIN21
    SJS19
    EDM15
    ANA15
    CGY14-1st wildcard
    NSH11
    STL10-2nd wildcard
    ——————
    LAK3
    WPG-1
    DAL-4
    VAN-6
    ARI-11
    COL-28

    EDM has H2H tiebreak w/ ANA so they sit 2nd.

    The fork is in LAK and they meat has been cut open to check “doneness”

    CGY on a 3 game road trip vs WSH, NSH and STL.

    In their 12-1-0 run over the last 13 games, CGY played 4 teams in a playoff spot and 9 out of playoff spot.

    They are 9-0-0 vs the non-playoff teams and vs playoff teams they:

    -Beat NSH in OT
    -Beat MTL 5-0 (Price didn’t play)
    -Beat PIT in SO
    -Lost to BOS

    These next 3 games will tell us much more about CGY than the last 13.

    WC games tonight:

    CGY at WSH – Matt Tkacooke starts his 2 game suspension and he’s been dynamite all year with Backlund and Frolik on this tough minutes line.He’ll be missed.

    ARI at TBY – TBY still has a chance and should win here

    PHI at WPG – The last 6 years in WPG has the same result at the last 6 in ATL. 1 playoff round, swept.

    SJS at MIN – The battle of the sliding teams.MIN can’t get a stop from Doobie and SJS can’t beat teams who played the night before.Interesting to see what happens. SJS played last night in DAL. Not easy.

    VAN at CHI – CHI should roll, but VAN traps and CHI had troubles with that in OTT, albeit vs OTT and not VAN

    STL at COL – STL continues the easy finish to their schedule and should win

    I really enjoy these posts. I like way you show the standings and the analysis you provide on the night’s games as well as upcoming team’s schedules. It makes things even more interesting than they already are watching a team drive for a playoff berth.

    It will be a good test for CGY in the next week. Are they for real?

  80. LMHF#1 says:

    Last night was an example of why you always play the guy who can move up the lineup.

    Slepyshev should have been there to cover Maroon’s absence.

  81. Dino says:

    If Mcdavid
    Admiral Ackbar,

    Mcdavid deserves the trophy but if Mcdavid is going to win the Hart trophy he will need to win the Art and lead the league in scoring and he will probably have to hit 100 points or come awfully close. To do that he has to average 2 points a game for 8/10 remaining games. He did it yesterday against a stingy LA team, can he keep it up? Time will tell.

  82. Chachi says:

    LMHF#1:
    Last night was an example of why you always play the guy who can move up the lineup.

    Slepyshev should have been there to cover Maroon’s absence.

    If a centre had to miss some time in the game would Caggiula or Slepyshev have been a better guy to move up the lineup?

  83. Professor Q says:

    Dino:
    If Mcdavid
    Admiral Ackbar,

    Mcdavid deserves the trophy but if Mcdavid is going to win the Hart trophy he will need to win the Art and lead the league in scoring and he will probably have to hit 100 points or come awfully close. To do that he has to average 2 points a game for 8/10 remaining games. He did it yesterday against a stingy LA team, can he keep it up? Time will tell.

    He’s going to need a hat trick tomorrow and some 5-point games.

    Or at least, I want to see that…

  84. OilHub says:

    Lt,
    Thanks so much for the incredible community that you’ve built!

    The Hawks are a team that has done a great job identifying their core and finding role players to compliment them so I wanted to see how we are setting ourselves up for the future contracts.
    Oilers core cap hit Hawks core cap hit
    McDavid $11,000,000.00 Toews $10,500,000.00
    Dr Drai $6,250,000.00 Kane $10,500,000.00
    Klefbomb $4,167,000.00 Keith $5,538,462.00
    Larson $4,166,667.00 Seabrook $6,875,000.00
    Ebs $6,000,000.00 Hossa $5,275,000.00
    Nuge $6,000,000.00 Panari $6,000,000.00
    Sekera $5,500,000.00 Hjalmarsson $4,100,000.00
    Lucic $6,000,000.00 Kruger $3,083,000.00
    Maroon $4,550,000.00 Anisimov $4,550,000.00
    Talbot $4,166,667.00 Crawford $6,000,000.00
    Total $57,800,334.00 Total $62,421,462.00

    So I made a few assumptions for McDavid, Drai and Maroons next contracts and we have just over $4.6 million to set them around a bit.

    Thoughts?

  85. Younger Oil says:

    If we’re talking about awards, one that hasn’t been talked about but should be is Klefbom for the Lady Byng.

    A defender in the top 30 in league TOI with only 6 PIMs against. That is remarkable.

    Only two defenders in the entire league have more than 60 games played and less than 10 penalty minutes (the other being Mark Pysyk).

    To do that against the toughest opposition and to also put up 30 points is incredibly impressive.

  86. OilHub says:

    Sorry for the horrible formatting on my last post, stupid phone

  87. treevojo says:

    OilHub:
    Lt,
    Thanks so much for the incredible community that you’ve built!

    The Hawks are a team that has done a great job identifying their core and finding role players to compliment them so I wanted to see how we are setting ourselves up for the future contracts.
    Oilers corecap hit Hawks corecap hit
    McDavid$11,000,000.00 Toews$10,500,000.00
    Dr Drai $6,250,000.00Kane$10,500,000.00
    Klefbomb $4,167,000.00Keith $5,538,462.00
    Larson $4,166,667.00Seabrook$6,875,000.00
    Ebs $6,000,000.00Hossa$5,275,000.00
    Nuge$6,000,000.00Panari$6,000,000.00
    Sekera$5,500,000.00Hjalmarsson $4,100,000.00
    Lucic $6,000,000.00Kruger $3,083,000.00
    Maroon $4,550,000.00Anisimov $4,550,000.00
    Talbot $4,166,667.00Crawford$6,000,000.00
    Total$57,800,334.00 Total$62,421,462.00

    So I made a few assumptions for McDavid, Drai and Maroons next contracts and we have just over $4.6 million to set them around a bit.

    Thoughts?

    I see you have the Dr.

    Where the hell is the Nurse?

  88. Ice Sage says:

    Do we know the Oilers’ magic # to clinch?
    Is this an out-dated way to define the finishing stretch in the 3 point era?

  89. Woogie63 says:

    rickithebear: When I first looked at Chicago’s Cup winner they had asset acquisition dating back 10 years.
    Partnered with a strong 3 years period of top end Acquisition.

    Eberle (T) 08
    Pitlick (T) 10
    RNH (T) 11
    Klefbom (T) 11
    Khaira (T) 12
    ————————– Tambo GM
    Nurse (M) 13
    Slepyshev (M) 13
    Broissoit (M) 13
    Draisatl (M) 14
    Pouliot (M) 14
    Fayne (M) 14
    Pakarinen (M) 14
    Talbot (M) 15
    Mcdavid (M) 15
    ————————– MacT GM
    Sekera (P) 15
    Letestu (P) 15
    Kassian (P) 15
    Maroon (P) 16
    Cagggulia (M) 16
    Puljujarvi (P) 16
    Larsson (P) 16
    Korpikoski (P) 16 1M buyout
    Lucic (P) 16
    Benning (M) 16

    From june 2008 to April 13
    Tambo 5/23 roster players

    April 13 to April 15
    Mact 9/23 Roster

    Apr 15 to Present
    PC 7/23 Roster
    Mact 2/23 Roater

    Mr. Bear, you are usually so clean and concise on your posts, I am surprised you are hanging on to MacT bringing Talbot and McDavid to Edmonton. By the time these two players signed with the Oilers MacT’s boss was PC.

    Howson, McGregor and the other AGM we have all contribute to procurement, but the buck stops with the signing GM.

    I have meet Glen Sather a few times and have golfed Stewart Creek with him a few times, IMHO Mr. Sather takes care of his interests and lets you manage yours, no favours. If the deal for Talbot was not enough for the NYR he would not have insulted Mr. James Dolan (his friend and employer) to help another friend. That deal was good value for both teams and the fact that Talbot went to the western Conference was probably a tiebreaker.

  90. spoiler says:

    Jethro Tull: Before we get to commenting on last night’s very impressive victory, (to me, more impressive than the 7 goal victories, we laid a ghost to bed,) i would just like to clarify something as the site’s resident limey:
    The Oilers are cooking with petrol now…..
    The phrase is in England, as it is here; cooking with gas. It comes from England originally in the late 19th/ early 20th century when natural gas stoves and ovens were just staring to be mass produced.
    Though LT may well have actually meant gasoline (or aromatic Benzene) the only reference I’ve seen him use it was as fuel for our dumpster fire team.

    As one of the site’s dual citizen Limeys let me say this Limey is only partially correct.

    There is another phrase and it is from this side of the pond:

    “Now we’re cooking with Crisco,” based on the tagline from the Crisco 1960s-70s ad campaign. (LT would’ve been inundated with these watching Grandpa Sneezby and re-runs of Green Acres on CKSA)

    Since then it has been common around these parts to substitute different words in place of Crisco. “Now you’re cooking with dynamite” or “Now you’re cooking with dumpster tires” (etc) So “petrol” here would be allowed.

    We’ll get you properly assimilated yet, Olive. 😉

  91. Justthestatsman says:

    Ice Sage:
    Do we know the Oilers’ magic # to clinch?
    Is this an out-dated way to define the finishing stretch in the 3 point era?

    Magic number is any combination of 9 points we get and LA loses.. LA currently have 75 points and could get could get a maximum of 95 points. We currently have 87 points and would need to get 9 points to get to 96.

  92. spoiler says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Thermopen changed my life.

    Here’s hoping it does the same for the Oilers ice-making crew.

  93. OilHub says:

    treevojo,

    Looks like you found a home for some of the $4.6 million, can’t believe I missed Nurse.
    Thanks

  94. spoiler says:

    treevojo: I honestly don’t see Hendrix as bad as a lot of the posters do here.
    I think when they eyes are searching for something they tend to find it.

    Yep.

  95. npanciroli says:

    I love the the team is worse without McDavid rhetoric. Like no shit. Did you see how bad this team was with previous management?

    Here Chiarelli, turn this team into a playoff contender with a bunch of rotten assets, that are undervalued across the league.

    Within two year he has added:

    1LW Maroon
    2LW Lucic
    4LW Cagguila

    3C DD
    4C Letestu

    3RW Kassian

    2LD Sekera

    1RD Larsson
    2RD Russell
    3RD Benning

    1G Talbot

    And other depth.

    And the only significant player it cost was Hall.

    I should say this is in response to the tweet from Filipovic.

  96. spoiler says:

    Pouzar:
    I dunno how a guy can lack consistency if he isn’t in the lineup consistently.
    There was nothing on merit or strategy that should have taken Slepy out of the lineup.

    He has the worst possession stats of any regular Oiler forward. It is not difficult to make a case for Sleppy sitting. Also, coaches tend to be focused much more on a player’s micro issues than we are (as opposed to macro).

    I think in this particular game having two extra FO options had value for TMac.

  97. Ice Sage says:

    Justthestatsman: Magic number is any combination of 9 points we get and LA loses..LA currently have 75 points and could get could get a maximum of 95 points.We currently have 87 points and would need to get 9 points to get to 96.

    Thanks, Stats! That’s a big help, tick tock….

  98. Bag of Pucks says:

    digger50: You forget Gryba. Who has more hits and sent more players to the dressing room for ice and attention than the others.

    Wait, I missed your intent. So I guess Grubs goes out and it’s too many men on the ice.

    You’re right. Gryba should get the nod over Larsson on the all star fight lineup.

    For an old timey fan like me, it’s great to see. The team hasn’t had functional toughness in the lineup like this since Semenko, McSorley, McLelland, Jackson, Messier.

  99. Mr. D. says:

    spoiler: He has the worst possession stats of any regular Oiler forward.It is not difficult to make a case for Sleppy sitting.Also, coaches tend to be focused much more on micro issues than we are (as opposed to macro).I think in this particular game having two extra FO options had value for TMac.

    Remember the possession stats(shot proxy) is really a major decider for fans. Coaches take a quick look and then evaluate team and individual skills. Shots…..maybe 20%.

  100. Georges says:

    – Hey look. Our PK went 2 for 2, including a 4v6 in the closing minutes of a 2-0 game. Good night for the PK, good night for Hendricks.

    – The more I watch Larsson and Russell, the more I wonder if what they do on the ice is reflected in the stats that we have. TMac knows way more about winning hockey games than I do. He seems to be using Sekera-Russell as a shutdown pair. Russell’s CF% is poor compared to other defenders. So I have 3 pieces of information to consider: Russell’s stats, TMac’s usage of Russell, and what I get from watching Russell play. 2 out of those 3 tell me that Russell is a good defenseman.

    – The Oilers are only sort of young. They have young defensemen. Their two best offensive players are young. The rest of the forwards are a veteran group.

    – TMac gave CMD a breather last night; the 2nd line played the most minutes. Isn’t it something that our coach decided to treat a game against a desperate LAK team as a kind of practice session for the rest of his lineup? And, led by Talbot, they went out and earned a shutout?

  101. Woogie63 says:

    Georges:
    – Hey look. Our PK went 2 for 2, including a 4v6 in the closing minutes of a 2-0 game. Good night for the PK, good night for Hendricks.

    – The more I watch Larsson and Russell, the more I wonder if what they do on the ice is reflected in the stats that we have. TMac knows way more about winning hockey games than I do. He seems to be using Sekera-Russell as a shutdown pair. Russell’s CF% is poor compared to other defenders. So I have 3 pieces of information to consider: Russell’s stats, TMac’s usage of Russell, and what I get from watching Russell play. 2 out of those 3 tell me that Russell is a good defenseman.

    – The Oilers are only sort of young. They have young defensemen. Their two best offensive players are young. The rest of the forwards are a veteran group.

    – TMac gave CMD a breather last night; the 2nd line played the most minutes. Isn’t it something that our coach decided to treat a game against a desperate LAK team as a kind of practice session for the rest of his lineup? And, led by Talbot, they went out and earned a shutout?

    The thing with Russell is how quick his first two strides are, this allows him to close time and space. He is fearless 0-25 feet around his net, which makes it tough for the opposition to score from a home base location when Russell is “in your face”. Watch Benning and Nurse who both front the forward but keep a “poke check” distance from the forward they are marking. I strongly prefer Russell’s approach to defending dangerous defensive space.

  102. fuzzy muppet says:

    ashley: I really enjoy these posts.I like way you show the standings and the analysis you provide on the night’s games as well as upcoming team’s schedules.It makes things even more interesting than they already are watching a team drive for a playoff berth.

    It will be a good test for CGY in the next week.Are they for real?

    Agreed.

    I look forward to them daily.

  103. Scungilli says:

    Professor Q: I wonder how much it would take to convince Kreuger to coach Bakersfield?

    What’s the cost of a kidnapping and lobotomy?

  104. theres oil in virginia says:

    spoiler: We’ll get you properly assimilated yet, Olive.

    Wait a minute…Jethro is OliveOiler? That’s why I hate it when people change things. Nobody change anything!

  105. spoiler says:

    theres oil in virginia: Wait a minute…Jethro is OliveOiler?That’s why I hate it when people change things.Nobody change anything!

    Yep. Got caught out myself back when he changed it. At least guys like JDI and LMHF use acronyms of their former names… makes it easier.

  106. GMB3 says:

    so for those here who are fans of Russell, are you comfortable with him being our #2 RD for 3 years going forward?

  107. vinotintazo says:

    GMB3:
    so for those here who are fans of Russell, are you comfortable with him being our #2 RD for 3 years going forward?

    why would he be our #2? he is and always will be behind Larsson, Klefbom and Sekera as a #4.

    Hope he stays for a reasonable price.(whatever #4 dmen cost.)

  108. Jethro Tull says:

    theres oil in virginia: Wait a minute…Jethro is OliveOiler?That’s why I hate it when people change things.Nobody change anything!

    Yeppers! Couple of years ago i used to post on ON. Then somebody else went on there with exactly the same name, so i let him have it (the name). I don’t post there anymore, but i know some people here still check back and forth, so i changed my name here.

  109. spoiler says:

    Grandpa Sneezby back in the day on CKSA (bottom right pic). He was like a Gord to us kids.

    http://www.lloydminster.net/wiki-ford-ernie.html

  110. GMB3 says:

    vinotintazo: why would he be our #2? he is and always will be behind Larsson, Klefbom and Sekera as a #4.

    Hope he stays for a reasonable price.(whatever #4 dmen cost.)

    He is our second pairing RD…

  111. vinotintazo says:

    GMB3: He is our second pairing RD…

    Sure. But that doesn’t make him Our #2.
    I guess I misread your post :).

    I’m fine with him being an Oiler for the right price/term obviously I would sign him in the offseason so we dont have to protect him.

    Would rather have him on the 3rd Pair if we can find a substitue for Our #2 RHD.

  112. bendelson says:

    Jethro Tull,

    Didn’t want to mess around with ‘originaloliveoiler’ I suppose? …wise choice.
    I was also unaware of this until today but it certainly helps explain why I feel the way I feel about your posts Jethro.

  113. LMHF#1 says:

    Chachi: If a centre had to miss some time in the game would Caggiula or Slepyshev have been a better guy to move up the lineup?

    Caggiula, who was playing. I prefer Khaira over him, but he wasn’t in the lineup.

    Not to mention Anton Lander.

  114. linkfromhyrule says:

    Coffeys_Messy_eh:
    There’s also this:

    At first blush, this could be seen as disheartening for those of us that believe the Oilers have turned a corner this season. The Oilers, it would seem, are simply not getting the job done at 5×5 without McDavid.

    In reality, I believe Kris Russell is dragging down the Oilers possession with and without Mcdavid. One can debate whether or not this is due to KR playing his off-side or simply because he’s not suited to a shutdown role.

    RNH plays minimally with Mcdavid, so I believe it’s useful to examine his WOWY’s first. They are ugly, ugly when on the ice together. These stats per stats.hockeyanalysis

    RNH w/ Russell 15.4 GF% (OMFG), 42.8 CF%
    RNH w/o Russell 50 GF%, 51.4 CF%
    Russell w/o RNH 63 GF%, 47.1 CF%

    Mcdavid’s WOWY’s are equally stark, perhaps moreso.
    Mcdavid w/ Russell 66.7 GF%, 47.8 CF%
    Mcdavid w/o Russell 60.5 GF%, 55.2 CF%
    Russell w/o Mcdavid 42.9 GF% 44.8 CF%

    Finally, we can do the simple WOWY of Russell with and without Talbot to get a sense of where the team is without him.
    Talbot w/ Russell 54.9 GF%, 45.9 CF%
    Talbot w/o Russell 54.7 GF%, 51.1 CF%
    Russell w/o Talbot 37.5 GF% 45.7 CF% (GF% likely isn’t fair since this would be with backup G)

    Interestingly enough, when looking at Talbot when Russell isn’t on the ice, we see a small reduction in CA (about 2 CA/60), and a large increase in CF (almost 8 CF/60). Russell TOI is where offense goes to die. He is a CF% boat anchor on every single player on the team, mostly due to CF. The effect on some is marginal, but is consistent with every skater.

    Obviously as a “shutdown D” we want a player that can keep a reasonable CA/60 relative to the team, but Russell doesn’t really do this. He also kills our CF while he’s on the ice. I believe this is in large part due to the “Russell reset” where he waits behind our net while the forecheckers get set up, resulting in a forced pass and loss of possession, but I don’t have evidence to support this.

    Russell can clearly defend by eye, despite his propensity for tire fire chases. The CF is a concern though, especially when considering how often your 2nd pairing D plays. Is his defensive ability really worth it when he is quite literally killing the offense while he’s on the ice? I would say not.

    His TOI ranks 4th among D, but 6th on the team overall. All of that TOI features a reduced advantage in CF. Is it worth it?

    His spot is a prime target for an upgrade this off-season, so hopefully he asks for too much money and goes to CGY.

    Puckalytics also has a super WOWY tool, which allows us to examine the Oilers without both Russell and Mcdavid on the ice.

    Spoiler alert: The Oilers are basically a break even team without both of them on the ice.

    50 GF%, 49.6 CF%, 100.1 PDO. SV% is slightly high, but SH% is also low.

    The corner has been turned. There is still lots of room for improvement, but we are much improved from years past. Apologies for the Wall of Text…

  115. classict says:

    linkfromhyrule,

    Also worth noting that on this line:

    Mcdavid w/ Russell 66.7 GF%, 47.8 CF%

    The fantastic GF% is largely due to a 104.7 PDO, a 95.27 SV%. And given that Russel’s PDO without McDavid is 98.9 I’m doubtful that he’s causing that…

  116. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ashley,

    Thanks Ashley

    I appreciate the kind words and support

  117. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    linkfromhyrule: At first blush, this could be seen as disheartening for those of us that believe the Oilers have turned a corner this season. The Oilers, it would seem, are simply not getting the job done at 5×5 without McDavid.

    In reality, I believe Kris Russell is dragging down the Oilers possession with and without Mcdavid. One can debate whether or not this is due to KR playing his off-side or simply because he’s not suited to a shutdown role.

    RNH plays minimally with Mcdavid, so I believe it’s useful to examine his WOWY’s first. They are ugly, ugly when on the ice together. These stats per stats.hockeyanalysis

    RNH w/ Russell 15.4 GF% (OMFG), 42.8 CF%
    RNH w/o Russell 50 GF%, 51.4 CF%
    Russell w/o RNH 63 GF%, 47.1 CF%

    Mcdavid’s WOWY’s are equally stark, perhaps moreso.
    Mcdavid w/ Russell 66.7 GF%, 47.8 CF%
    Mcdavid w/o Russell 60.5 GF%, 55.2 CF%
    Russell w/o Mcdavid 42.9 GF% 44.8 CF%

    Finally, we can do the simple WOWY of Russell with and without Talbot to get a sense of where the team is without him.
    Talbot w/ Russell 54.9 GF%, 45.9 CF%
    Talbot w/o Russell 54.7 GF%, 51.1 CF%
    Russell w/o Talbot 37.5 GF% 45.7 CF% (GF% likely isn’t fair since this would be with backup G)

    Interestingly enough, when looking at Talbot when Russell isn’t on the ice, we see a small reduction in CA (about 2 CA/60), and a large increase in CF (almost 8 CF/60). Russell TOI is where offense goes to die. He is a CF% boat anchor on every single player on the team, mostly due to CF. The effect on some is marginal, but is consistent with every skater.

    Obviously as a “shutdown D” we want a player that can keep a reasonable CA/60 relative to the team, but Russell doesn’t really do this. He also kills our CF while he’s on the ice. I believe this is in large part due to the “Russell reset” where he waits behind our net while the forecheckers get set up, resulting in a forced pass and loss of possession, but I don’t have evidence to support this.

    Russell can clearly defend by eye, despite his propensity for tire fire chases. The CF is a concern though, especially when considering how often your 2nd pairing D plays. Is his defensive ability really worth it when he is quite literally killing the offense while he’s on the ice? I would say not.

    His TOI ranks 4th among D, but 6th on the team overall. All of that TOI features a reduced advantage in CF. Is it worth it?

    His spot is a prime target for an upgrade this off-season, so hopefully he asks for too much money and goes to CGY.

    Puckalytics also has a super WOWY tool, which allows us to examine the Oilers without both Russell and Mcdavid on the ice.

    Spoiler alert: The Oilers are basically a break even team without both of them on the ice.

    50 GF%, 49.6 CF%, 100.1 PDO. SV% is slightly high, but SH% is also low.

    The corner has been turned. There is still lots of room for improvement, but we are much improved from years past. Apologies for the Wall of Text…

    This is an excellent post.

    You might be interested in my “Dpair” WOWY for shots and goals with centers:

    http://becauseoilers.blogspot.ca/2017/02/a-look-at-how-oilers-d-pairs-have-done_12.html?m=1

    http://becauseoilers.blogspot.ca/2017/02/a-look-at-how-oilers-d-pairs-have-done.html?m=1

    I’ll update it at the end of the year

  118. spoiler says:

    linkfromhyrule,

    Very nice analysis. Nailed it.

    The confounding item is Russell’s GF%, with a PDO that is 4th amongst defensemen. But as

    classict,

    points out, Russell is getting blessed by the holy spirit of McDeity. Besides the “With” numbers above, Russell GF% W/o 97 is 46.52%. Meanwhile CA/60 for Russell with and without McDavid is just over 57, while McD without Russell is 51.09.

    So Russell is zooming McDavid’s bad Against numbers. Beelzebub.

    Sekera’s possession numbers leap without Russell, but his GF% still sucks ass. I’m on a different site, does you guys have Sekera’s PDO WOWY on Russell?

  119. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    fuzzy muppet: Agreed.

    I look forward to them daily.

    Thanks FM!

  120. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    spoiler,

    2 and 4 together 1022
    4 away from 2 987
    2 away from 4 985

  121. jm363561 says:

    Chachi: If a centre had to miss some time in the game would Caggiula or Slepyshev have been a better guy to move up the lineup?

    ======
    Good question. Sleps could move up and allow Drai to move to centre. We know Caggs would do next to nothing at centre. Play Sleps.

  122. spoiler says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    spoiler,

    2 and 4 together 1022
    4 away from 2 987
    2 away from 4 985

    Awesome, thanks! Well Jesus no story from those numbers.

  123. classict says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    spoiler,

    2 and 4 together 1022
    4 away from 2 987
    2 away from 4 985

    I get 2 away from 4 975

    Different site? or was it the phone

  124. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    classict: I get 2 away from 4 975

    Different site? or was it the phone

    Yeah, that was flipped.

    For clariy:

    2 with 4 1022
    2 without 4 975
    4 without 2 987

    For Fun

    97+2+4= 1073
    97+2-4= 994
    97+4-2=993

  125. jg2 says:

    Long time listener, first time caller with a dumb question…

    When you say “The line went 8-15 in 11 minutes, 3-1 with Klefbom and 3-10 with Nurse.”, what do the 8-15, 3-1 and 3-10 refer to? Shot attempts? Turnovers?

    Thanks in advance.

  126. GMB3 says:

    jg2:
    Long time listener, first time caller with a dumb question…

    When you say “The line went 8-15 in 11 minutes, 3-1 with Klefbom and 3-10 with Nurse.”, what do the 8-15, 3-1 and 3-10 refer to?Shot attempts?Turnovers?

    Thanks in advance.

    Shot attempts yes. Corsi.

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