2017 PLAYOFFS G4: OILERS AT SHARKS

The stage is set and the opportunity has arrived. The Edmonton Oilers have a 2-1 series lead on last year’s Western Conference pennant winners, and at least some doubt must have entered the San Jose collective. Edmonton can hang with the Sharks in tight contests, and hold the ultimate trump card in Connor McDavid. The series is there for the taking, with only one real question remaining. Can the upstart Oilers finish this series? Massive opportunity tonight!

THE 1990 STANLEY

  • Names on the StanleyGlenn Anderson, Jeff Beukeboom, Dave Brown, Kelly Buchberger, Grant Fuhr, Martin Gelinas, Adam Graves, Randy Gregg, Charlie Huddy, Petr Klima, Jari Kurri, Mark Lamb, Kevin Lowe, Craig MacTavish, Mark Messier CAPTAIN, Craig Muni, Joe Murphy, Bill Ranford, Eldon “Pokey” Reddick, Reijo Ruotsalainen, Craig Simpson, Geoff Smith, Steve Smith, Esa Tikkanen Peter Pocklington Owner, Glen Sather President and General Manager, John Muckler Head Coach
  • Dave Brown came over at the 1989 deadline from Philadelphia for Keith Acton; Kelly Buchberger was a late draft pick who worked his way up to the NHL, becoming a regular in 1988-89; Martin Gelinas was partial payment in the Gretzky sale, and a fine NHL player for a long time. He was 19 during this season. Adam Graves, Joe Murphy and Petr Klima all came over in the Jimmy Carson trade, a stunning deal from the moment it took place in November 1989; Mark Lamb was a waiver draft pickup in October of 1987 who played a substantial role in the Stanley win that spring of 1990; Pokey Reddick came over from Winnipeg in a minor deal; Reijo Ruotsalainen was acquired at the 1990 deadline from New Jersey for Jeff Sharples; Geoff Smith was a 1987 draft pick out of the St. Albert Saints who worked out very well; John Muckler had been a big part of the team as an associate coach, finally getting the head coaching job and cashing with a Stanley.
  • The 1990 Stanley is the most interesting story of all Edmonton’s championships, although my heart has never been the same since. The Oilers had many trials and moments of crisis, and really survived more than won the 1990 Stanley.
  • Smythe Division Semifinal: Oilers over Jets in 7 games. Should have played Bob Essensa!
  • Smythe Division Final: Oilers over Kings in 4 games, outscoring LA 24-10 in those contests.
  • Campbell Conference Final: Oilers beat Chicago in 6 games. It was a brilliant series, Mark Messier’s finest hour. Game 4 was epic, Greg Millen was pulled 11 seconds into the second period.
  • Stanley Cup Final: Oilers beat Boston in 5. Petr Klima scored in OT to win game 1 and after that the Oilers had a fairly easy time of it. Billy Ranford beat Andy Moog, the two men having been traded for each other in 1988.
  • Names on the Stanley five times: Glenn Anderson, Grant Fuhr, Randy Gregg, Charlie Huddy, Jari Kurri, Kevin Lowe, Mark Messier.
  • I loved all five of the Stanleys, but the three that have special status are 1984 (the first one), 1987 (you had to be there, but two reasons are the Flyers were the toughest finalists and Gretzky to Smith) and 1990, because it was unexpected. Of all the Stanley’s the Oilers brought home, 1990 was the one I didn’t expect to see. A great cluster, fabulous trades and a goalie who started badly and then owned the whole damned spring were the main reasons for the win. It was beautiful.

THE MODERN CLUSTER

If you had to name seven men from the current roster as the modern cluster, likely to be here and lead the team to Stanley? My list would be Cam Talbot, Oscar Klefbom, Adam Larsson, Darnell Nurse, Connor McDavid, Milan Lucic, Leon Draisaitl. Who is on your list?

POSSESSION NUMBERS AND THE STARTING LINEUP

We saw new lines on Sunday night and could see them again. We are so new to the playoffs, so numbers don’t really tell us much. I am going to run Fenwick this time, just for a change of pace:

  • Patrick Maroon (46.81); Connor McDavid (50.00); Anton Slepyshev (57.14)
  • Milan Lucic (55.10); Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (54.90); Jordan Eberle (56.52)
  • Drake Caggiula (42.00); Leon Draisaitl (50.00); Zack Kassian (41.18)
  • Benoit Pouliot (52.38); David Desharnais (47.37); Mark Letestu (42.22)
  • Oscar Klefbom (50.94); Adam Larsson (46.43)
  • Andrej Sekera (45.16); Kris Russell (48.53)
  • Darnell Nurse (51.02); Matt Benning (56.25); Eric Gryba (41.67)
  • Source

The top two lines have been playing the toughs and doing well in possession. The third line got the goal in G3 and I’d like to see them again. Pouliot is a possession demon (one of the main reasons I like him) and that line might be the best 4line Edmonton has had in quite some time. I’d like to see these lines roll tonight. You? Pairings are good, Todd McLellan doing a good job (by eye) of putting that young third pair in a position to succeed.

THE U18’S

We aren’t paying a lot of attention to the 2017 draft, but good things are happening. The Oilers appear destined to draft in the early to mid-20’s, and don’t have a second round pick. I think they’ll want to grab an offensive forward with that first rounder, and the U18’s are giving all NHL teams some pause in regard to their rankings. Here are some of the names who are gathering steam:

  1. L Kristian Vesalainen, Frolunda (SHL). Big W, skilled, strong, can play L or R. I have him at No. 23 on my draft board, but this Finn (who plays pro in Sweden) leads all scorers with eight points in three games. The consensus rankings have him at No.22, suspect he’ll be moving up that list and mine. Why? Despite the small sample size of this tournament, it’s a rare chance to see Vesalainen against his own age group. So far, stunning.
  2. LC Joshua Norris, USNDTP (USHL). Two-way C showing good offense. I have him at No. 33, and remain a little uncertain about his offense. Norris is a splendid two-way C, exactly my kind of player, but if he has substantial offense he is a bona first-round selection. So far in this series he is 3gp, 1-1-2 with nine shots on goal.
  3. L Grant Mismash, USNDTP (USHL). Physical winger with some skill. I have him at No. 55, he ranks higher on most other lists. Mismash, who possesses a great name (Gene would get 10 years worth of twisted puns out of that name), is scoring well in this tournament (3gp, 2-3-5). Based on his scouting report, this would be a player of interest for Edmonton.
  4. L Mackenzie Entwistle, Hamilton Bulldogs (OHL). Big winger, who can skate, check, some skill. I have him at No. 65, partly because the offense isn’t first-round level. He is scoring well at the tournament (3gp, 2-2-4) and is a player to watch.
  5. LD Max Gildon, USNDTP (USHL). Size, speed, skill. Inconsistent or he would be higher. I have him at No. 70 on my latest ranking, he has three goals in three games. The USHL is drunk with excellent puck movers on the blue line, suspect the Oilers may try to add to their already impressive defensive group. Why? Need more mobile players who can pass, carry and shoot.

ERIC RODGERS FINAL NUMBERS

Eric Rodgers continues to do his fine work on AHL stats despite the fact the Oklahoma City Barons picked up stakes and headed for the coast a couple of year ago. I really value this work, and based on your feedback you do too. Over the next couple of months, we’ll drill down on all of it. However, the NHLE’s hold special interest, along with estimated time on ice. Here are the final numbers for this season.

CONDORS FORWARDS

  • Anton Lander’s numbers tell us he can play and needs an expansion draft. Cruelly, that may not happen, as he has apparently signed in the KHL.
  • Anton Slepyshev’s sample size is a little show but this is a promising number. Can the Russian score 40 points in the NHL? That would be a helluva boost to the depth chart?
  • Jujhar Khaira is on the upper side of what we might expect from a fourth liner, and I think that’s a reasonable estimate. I think seasons of 15-20 points and rugged, responsible play is a good estimate.
  • Jesse Puljujarvi is 18, so we have to view these numbers through that kind of lens. I will drill down during his RE,but the offensive questions we had due to his Sm-Liiga numbers remain with us one year later. Five years from now, if you are glancing back at this paragraph, let it be known there was some concern from this quarter in regard to offense.
  • Joey Laleggia is listed here as a forward, with his January 1+ numbers reflected. I did the NHLE here, so Eric’s number might be a little different.
  • Joe Gambardella and his small sample size represents the end of the offense in my opinion. He’ll no doubt post stronger boxcars over a full 2017-18 season, but that’s not a bad total considering the upheaval going on at the time.

CONDORS DEFENSE

  • Jordan Oesterle is the only defenseman on the farm who we should consider to be a positive offensively. Even then, defensemen and their blasted second assists artificially boost their value. Safe to say most of these men will make or break their NHL careers based on solid defensive play.
  • Joey Laleggia is no longer a defenseman, but I listed him here.
  • Griffin Reinhart’s offense is exactly what we thought it was on draft day.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning, TSN1260 beginning at 10. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, Oilers Nation. Can Edmonton win this series, and win tonight? What about the new lines?
  • Steve Kournianos, The Draft Analyst. Drilling down on the U18s.
  • Scott Cullen, TSN. The Oilers, the Leafs, the Flames, the Senators. Holy!
  • Kent Wilson, Flames Nation. The wildly unfair Flames-Ducks series.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Centre of attention says:

    Wolfie:
    Centre of attention,

    They didn’t call interference or hooking.They called delay of game.There may have been a slight hook for Kassian to draw even but Kassian had good position and had the stick checked.Poor call.

    they blew the name of the call, but he had that stick dug right in there, Shark guy wasn’t trying to sell nothing he wanted to get his stick down on that puck to score.

    That being said, Sharks have done that exactly thing against a couple Oiler forwards, and the refs missing that blatant interference on Benning earlier was inexcusable.

    I think I said it best in a comment above: The refs are just garbage in general. No use in arguing individual calls anymore lol. (even though I’m guilty of that very thing)

  2. digger50 says:

    Oilers are playing scared.

    Scared to get aggressive, scared of penalties. Scared to make a mistake. Back on thier heels.

    Guys, you are down by two, time to go for it.

  3. Professor Q says:

    They did miss the high stick on Couture.

    But consistency is not their strong suit.

  4. BeerMe says:

    Centre of attention: this is a good comment.

    Maroon is great for what his price point is currently, but he isn’t worth a ton of long term investment IMO.

    I remember on election day Principe said on air that Maroon said would have voted for Trump if he had voted. That soured my opinion of him greatly. If he gets signed to an anchor contract I’d be the first to turn

  5. dangilitis says:

    Centre of attention: Its funny, I’ve never seen a blatant miss by Maroon described that way when McDavid sets him up perfectly a half dozen times a game. Its been a looooong time since he’s converted on one of those perfect passes.

    Nuge heels a wobbly rebound puck and its terrible, inexcusable. Lol. Ok.

    Nuge is a #1 overall pick who is paid 6 million a year to score. Say what you want when he’s 5×5 shutting down top players, but on the 5×4 he needs to score on an empty net with the team down 2-0.

  6. Kepler says:

    For those with PVR rewind to 14 seconds remaining in 2nd. Ref clearly loses sight of the puck and blows the whistle. Then cue shit call on Kassian coming back the other way.

  7. Professor Q says:

    dangilitis: Nuge is a #1 overall pick who is paid 6 million a year to score. Say what you want when he’s 5×5 shutting down top players, but on the 5×4 he needs to score on an empty net with the team down 2-0.

    Sometimes the puck just doesn’t Hopkins to the net when you need it to the most…

  8. spoiler says:

    BeerMe,

    Taking bizarre to a whole new level.

  9. Professor Q says:

    Kepler:
    For those with PVR rewind to 14 seconds remaining in 2nd. Ref clearly loses sight of the puck and blows the whistle. Then cue shit call on Kassian coming back the other way.

    They blew the whistle on the play before the Russell penalty, too.

  10. Diablo says:

    Centre of attention: they blew the name of the call, but he had that stick dug right in there, Shark guy wasn’t trying to sell nothing he wanted to get his stick down on that puck to score.

    That being said, Sharks have done that exactly thing against a couple Oiler forwards, and the refs missing that blatant interference on Benning earlier was inexcusable.

    I think I said it best in a comment above: The refs are just garbage in general. No use in arguing individual calls anymore lol. (even though I’m guilty of that very thing)

    Slandering the refs from the comfort of my keyboard is just so cathartic.

  11. BONE207 says:

    Kepler:
    For those with PVR rewind to 14 seconds remaining in 2nd. Ref clearly loses sight of the puck and blows the whistle. Then cue shit call on Kassian coming back the other way.

    I’ll wait for it once the time winds down in the 2nd…😉

  12. spoiler says:

    Oiler interviews will now be conducted by on-screen graphic.

  13. Younger Oil says:

    Eat a dick, refs.

  14. Centre of attention says:

    dangilitis: Nuge is a #1 overall pick who is paid 6 million a year to score. Say what you want when he’s 5×5 shutting down top players, but on the 5×4 he needs to score on an empty net with the team down 2-0.

    Agree, he should have had that.

    That being said, he’s got better hands that Horcoff (I swear) and he would have scored on that chance any other night.

    The hockey gods just didn’t want that one to go in. McDavid was 0.00002 inches from scoring on a chance earlier too. So close, yet no cigar.

  15. GMB3 says:

    BeerMe: I remember on election day Principe said on air that Maroon said would have voted for Trump if he had voted. That soured my opinion of him greatly. If he gets signed to an anchor contract I’d be the first to turn

    How does a players political orientation have anything to do with anything? You realize that more than a handful of people voted for Trump right? Politics have no place in sports

  16. Chachi says:

    fix is in

  17. Diablo says:

    Wow that was weak

  18. jzed says:

    What a fucking joke

  19. BONE207 says:

    Ok guys…let’s stop hammering on the refs. Let’s crap on the fnLames!!!

  20. BeerMe says:

    Ok what the actual fuck.

  21. jzed says:

    If they score here, time to start pounding these fucks

  22. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    17-9

  23. Centre of attention says:

    Pavelski runs a little pick, doesn’t get called.

    Connor tugs on him back, Pavelski does the Tasmanian devil tornado spin and gets the call.

    These refs.

  24. JDI Хоккей says:

    Missed the inter Ference call.

    Tickey? Tackey?

  25. Gret99zky says:

    The kid is rattled. Next goal is YUGE.

  26. Gret99zky says:

    And done.

  27. Jon K says:

    “McDavid didn’t like the call.”

    Weak call leads to 5v3, you don’t say?

  28. Gerta Rauss says:

    It’s uphill from here

  29. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    The refs have absolutely given this game to the sharks

  30. spoiler says:

    Randorf would be overjoyed to play-by-play an Oiler loss.

  31. Gret99zky says:

    might as well rest Talbot.

  32. Chachi says:

    horse shit

  33. Centre of attention says:

    Welp

  34. Diablo says:

    To hell with the refs – the Oilers have to start hammering on them – I want to see some blood

  35. BeerMe says:

    We are gonna see some McDavid brilliance here.

  36. ashley says:

    Kassian lolligags out of the box there. He was looking for a breakaway pass. Bad decision. He could have got back to defend Marleau. I know he’s a prince around here right now, but if I was coaching, he would not see the ice for the rest of this game. Very selfish.

  37. Younger Oil says:

    Kassian seemed to be in the box a while after the penalty expired there, not sure what happened.

    This is such bullshit.

  38. jake70 says:

    it helps when your team has shooters who can pick spots and score… the Oilers still lack this….

  39. flyfish1168 says:

    Ducks came back from 3 goals down. Lots of time left. Now if the refs cooperate.

  40. JDI Хоккей says:

    Diablo: I want to see some blood

    Full Kyper on Jones?

  41. Diablo says:

    Oilers look defeated

  42. BONE207 says:

    Tomorrow’s hangover will be difficult to justify publicly

  43. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Centre of attention: this is a good comment.

    Maroon is great for what his price point is currently, but he isn’t worth a ton of long term investment IMO.

    Maroon is what he is at is age. Made the league late, up and down performance like most. He isn’t a sudden Ovenchicken. He has had a great season, and hopefully he contributes now. Players at 24 -25 aren’t going to change a lot typically. At 28 + almost no chance. They can get hot and still have career years, but history tells us it’s rare for more than that.

    The smart GM gets this.

  44. DBO says:

    So this is painful.

    Bring the thunder fellas cause the refs aren’t going to do us any favours. Punish them

  45. spoiler says:

    Guys falling with no one round them. This ice has always been horrible.

  46. jzed says:

    Kassian, Lucic and Maroon time, targets, Pavelsky and Couture, every shift. Play for next game now. Finish every check

  47. Gret99zky says:

    Gotta take it to them physically. Try to wear them down for game 5.

  48. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Diablo:
    Oilers look defeated

    Absolutely

  49. B S says:

    Oilers need to take out the refs. Hard to play the game with 8 sharks on the ice at all times.

  50. Professor Q says:

    flyfish1168:
    Ducks came back from 3 goals down. Lots of time left. Now if the refs cooperate.

    McDavid and Talbot cooperating would be great, too. 😉

  51. npanciroli says:

    Not playing like they did in game 2.

  52. DBO says:

    Also worrisome is our lack of 5v5 sxoring.

  53. spoiler says:

    DBO,

    Need More Muttonchop

  54. Scungilli Slushy says:

    DBO:
    So this is painful.

    Bring the thunder fellas cause the refs aren’t going to do us any favours. Punish them

    Might as well use the time to do something for the bigger picture, but not running people. Strategic play.

  55. JDI Хоккей says:

    Watch out for Joe’s knee!

  56. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Time to Rest Talbot.

  57. JDI Хоккей says:

    spoiler:
    DBO,

    Need More Muttonchop

    I felt that rewarding his stellar game 2 with some 1st line time would have been justified.

  58. Diablo says:

    What this hell is wrong with Benning’s stick – someone needs to glue it to his gloves

  59. delooper says:

    Oilers have a bit too much happy-to-be-here.

  60. Hockey Project says:

    How long until the Matt Benning drinking game is born?

  61. Centre of attention says:

    Fourth time Benning has lost his stick.

    Klefbom did too earlier

    Oilers need to wake up.

  62. JDI Хоккей says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Time to Rest Talbot.

    Unless your stream is minutes ahead of mine, and it’s 4 – 0, no.

  63. Oilanderp says:

    Slepyshev looks fast.

  64. Professor Q says:

    Centre of attention:
    Fourth time Benning has lost his stick.

    Klefbom did too earlier

    Oilers need to wake up.

    They need to stick to their game plan from the past two games.

  65. BeerMe says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Time to Rest Talbot.

    Are you guys kidding? You don’t play a guy for 73 games in a season, and rest him in the playoffs after he posts back-to-back shutouts. It’s not 5-0, it’s 3-0

  66. JDI Хоккей says:

    Diablo:
    What this hell is wrong with Benning’s stick – someone needs to glue it to his gloves

    Maybe it’s a bruised hand?

  67. Younger Oil says:

    Time to accidentally book a U-12 ringette team at Rogers place the same time the Sharks are supposed to take a morning skate.

  68. Wolfie says:

    Nurse gets the stick slashed out of his hand on the breakout and too many men for the Sharks on that last whistle. A player was diving back into the bench in the dump in.

  69. Gerta Rauss says:

    Well, maybe we can get one back before the period ends

  70. Caller Zen says:

    Centre of attention:
    Fourth time Benning has lost his stick.

    Klefbom did too earlier

    Oilers need to wake up.

    I saw Lucic lost his stick twice. Some weird game mojo tonight for the Oilers

  71. BeerMe says:

    Oilers are puckwatching

  72. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Well, maybe we can get one back before the period ends

    Honestly it looks like no cares right now.

  73. jake70 says:

    BeerMe:
    Oilers are puckwatching

    Little lethargic …

  74. Clay says:

    So including tonight, the SJS have had 17 powerplays in the series to the Oilers 9. Discipline is a thing.

  75. JDI Хоккей says:

    Caller Zen: I saw Lucic lost his stick twice.

    At least one of those was when it was ripped out of his hands. The stick may or may not have been under a Sharts player’s arm at the time.

  76. BONE207 says:

    Oilers a day late & a dollar short on every play it seems. Let’s pass the hat

  77. GMB3 says:

    This may sound stupid. But I see San Jose flipping the puck into the neutral zone more often then us, and oftentimes it’s a better play than trying to break out through the half walls if the D is pinching. Our break out isn’t nearly as good as theirs. At the moment anyways.

  78. Jon K says:

    Oilers starting to play tentatively again like in game 1. Watching the play, not chasing down pucks, missing passes all over he ice.

  79. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Embarrassing

  80. Younger Oil says:

    Go back and watch Maroon that shift. Glided the entire time, didn’t touch the puck or a Shark once.

    Awful.

    Goodnight everyone.

  81. Wolfie says:

    Chasing the puck

  82. Scungilli Slushy says:

    The big story here is taking penalties. If the refs are a problem play hockey first. If the game is out of reach clean hit everything.

  83. SK Oiler Fan says:

    D men tired of chasing. Not interested

  84. spoiler says:

    Randorf can scarcely keep the excitement out of his voice.

  85. ashley says:

    Where were Benning and Nurse there? It was two sharks down low with only Talbot to defend.

  86. Yakupov me says:

    At least 2 picks leading to that goal…man they’re good at it too.

  87. JDI Хоккей says:

    Younger Oil: Goodnight everyone.

    Quitter.

  88. Zelepukin says:

    welp, best of 3 now, 2 in our barn.

  89. Centre of attention says:

    Where are the Oilers D on that rebound? Maroon and Eberle are the first ones back into the photo?

    Wowzers the wheels are completely off now.

  90. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    JDI Хоккей: Quitter.

    Yes the oilers quit tonight

  91. JDI Хоккей says:

    ashley:
    Where were Benning and Nurse there?It was two sharks down low with only Talbot to defend.

    Nurse was pursuing a Shart. Not sure if it was the winger’s missed assignment or not. Maroon cruising in late.

  92. smellyglove says:

    What’s with the Oilers dropping their sticks? I’ve seen it happen at least 6 times.

  93. BeerMe says:

    Maybe McDavid is playing hurt, who knows

  94. Jon K says:

    JDI Хоккей: Nurse was pursuing a Shart. Not sure if it was the winger’s missed assignment or not. Maroon cruising in late.

    The whole team is pursuing a shart. One big shart out on the ice.

  95. JDI Хоккей says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: Yes the oilers quit tonight

    You know, there’s another team on the ice tonight – a veteran laden team that was atop the Pacific division for most of the year, and one who was facing a 3 – 1 death sentence.

    It’s not always just about the Oilers.

  96. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Lights out performance by San Jose.

  97. Yakupov me says:

    Clay,

    Easier said than done when you have no idea what they’re going to call.

  98. Gret99zky says:

    These things happen (bad games) but Edmonton had better be careful not to get their spirits broken for the remainder of the series. Gotta find some kind of success the rest of the way tonight.

  99. ashley says:

    It is going to be hard to recover from this hole, but there is still plenty to play for. It’s important to push back here and play right until the final horn. Like most things in life, success follows from confidence, and allowing SJ to continue like this affects the confidence level for the next game.

    At the intermission, McLellan needs to tell these guys to go out and try to win the period. Pretend it is 0-0, and play their very best so they can carry something positive into game 5.

  100. BeerMe says:

    McDavid come on man!

  101. Spengler says:

    Not dealing with an aggressive forecheck well. Sharks are a veteran team and DeBoer is a quality coach. The response to this will be interesting. Learning to deal with adversity and success are keys to winning long term. And like everything else, they’re magnified in the playoffs.

  102. SK Oiler Fan says:

    BeerMe: Are you guys kidding? You don’t play a guy for 73 games in a season, and rest him in the playoffs after he posts back-to-back shutouts. It’s not 5-0, it’s 3-0

    The 4th goal was predictable. D and C not interested in chasing anymore. Forwards can’t sustain zone time. Dumb penalties. I don’t see an indication of this changing. In fact it’s worsening

  103. Centre of attention says:

    Letestu has been out on the ice for like a minute and a half

    Oilers had time to change, coach decided to leave him out there.

    Coach just as out to lunch as the players are.

  104. JDI Хоккей says:

    LB time.

  105. BeerMe says:

    Disgusting.

  106. Lucinius says:

    Well..

    This didn’t go well.

  107. SK Oiler Fan says:

    SK Oiler Fan: The 4th goal was predictable. D and C not interested in chasing anymore. Forwards can’t sustain zone time. Dumb penalties. I don’t see an indication of this changing. In fact it’s worsening

    5. You were saying?

  108. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    JDI Хоккей: You know, there’s another team on the ice tonight – a veteran laden team that was atop the Pacific division for most of the year, and one who was facing a 3 – 1 death sentence.

    It’s not always just about the Oilers.

    They’ve been mediocre tonight full stop.

  109. Jon K says:

    Mercy pull for Talbot. McLellan isn’t mad, just very very disappointed in all of you.

  110. Diablo says:

    Embarrassing loss

  111. Professor Q says:

    Well then. I went to make food and I come back to this?

  112. JDI Хоккей says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: full stop.

    That’s a very persuasive argument. Full stop.

  113. Diablo says:

    SK Oiler Fan: 5. You were saying?

    lol

  114. delooper says:

    Forwards aren’t trying very hard. D tired of picking up the slack, it seems.

  115. Professor Q says:

    Diablo:
    Embarrassing loss

    It’s not over yet, you know…

  116. Gerta Rauss says:

    Professor Q:
    Well then. I went to make food and I come back to this?

    Was it soup..?

  117. Lowetide says:

    Leon with the friend getter there.

  118. tapper says:

    They’ve been managed out of the game.

    Meier is down every time he is on the ice. It’s just embarrassing. I love the head snaps too.

    I’m calling this the “All Embellishment Playoffs”, cuz it’s happening in the Montreal and Toronto series as well.

  119. Lloyd B. says:

    It’s only one game. Good thing it’s not a 5 game total goals scored series.

    In golf it’s called match play. Looks like we’re All Square with 3 to play.

    This is a growth team. These Oilers are learning a valuable lesson tonight.

  120. Gret99zky says:

    This could get really, really ugly.

  121. Diablo says:

    Hahaha – nice one Leon
    Time to goon it up.

  122. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Young and stupid sometimes

  123. JDI Хоккей says:

    If that was Tkacooke, it wouldn’t have even been a penalty.

  124. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    JDI Хоккей: That’s a very persuasive argument. Full stop.

    So your happy with the effort tonight?

  125. Centre of attention says:

    That was just dumb by Draisaitl

    dumb dumb dumb

  126. Professor Q says:

    Really?

  127. Wolfie says:

    Of course.

  128. Jon K says:

    Well Draisaitl did something, at least. His poor showing is a story not yet discussed this series.

  129. GMB3 says:

    If Drai gets suspended.. fucks sakes

  130. JDI Хоккей says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: So your happy with the effort tonight?

    I’m unhappy with your view that it’s all on the Oilers. Feel free to turn off the tv and go to bed.

  131. Professor Q says:

    That was a love tap. Barely made contact.

  132. Gret99zky says:

    Sweep the leg

  133. spoiler says:

    Let’s go, Chiiiieeeeeeffs!

  134. BeerMe says:

    SK Oiler Fan: 5. You were saying?

    Did you just quote yourself? Nice. What would we have gained from sitting Talbot? He wasn’t responsible for those last 2 goals and certainly doesn’t need rest.

  135. ashley says:

    Dirty Drai. I understand the frustration, but I’m not a fan of that.

  136. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    JDI Хоккей: I’m unhappy with your view that it’s all on the Oilers. Feel free to turn off the tv and go to bed.

    LOL ok dad

  137. Android says:

    Professor Q,

    Yep.
    I’m not going to kid myself about the situation, but it’s not unheard of.
    I’ve got one word which comes to mind here.

    Manchester.

  138. Diablo says:

    Next I’d like to see McDavid knock out some of Pavelski’s teeth.

  139. BONE207 says:

    My eyes are starting to hurt. Friend getter huh? Interesting phrase…

  140. Dicky94 says:

    GMB3,

    At least two games.

  141. Centre of attention says:

    Brossoit fighting the good fight in the laundry room

  142. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    One of Benning and/or Nurse won’t see the ice next game

  143. Diablo says:

    ashley:
    Dirty Drai.I understand the frustration, but I’m not a fan of that.

    I am – I miss the good old days when Mess and Anderson would carve up guys with their sticks

  144. Jon K says:

    Centre of attention:
    Brossoit fighting the good fight in the laundry room

    I wish I could tell you that those Shark boys left him alone…

  145. Wolfie says:

    Benning got picked hard by Marleau on the build up to that goal.

  146. BONE207 says:

    Ya…ok. That home plate area in front of the Edmonton net is huge tonight

  147. BeerMe says:

    That was a terrific deflection though

  148. Hockey Project says:

    Well… Look on the bright side. Benning didn’t lose his stick on GA #6.

  149. Oilanderp says:

    Maybe this is a bad time but…. I have ice cream cake! 🙂

  150. Jon K says:

    Look at the PK on that goal. Is every oiler below the hash marks? Where is the structure?

  151. Alpine says:

    Meltdown. This feels like the statement game that turns the series. Awful effort tonight.

  152. Diablo says:

    They should get a “we want 10” chant going in the Shark Tank

  153. jake70 says:

    BeerMe:
    That was a terrific deflection though

    He (Burns) would have scored on his shot anyway……

  154. russ99 says:

    And I’m done.

    Let’s hope they work through some things in the third to get back on track for game 5 & 6.

  155. Android says:

    Diablo,

    Careful what you wish for…

  156. RedNed says:

    Never switched off an Oilers game before now, but all of a sudden those jobs the missus has been asking me to do for the past year seem inviting. Sigh.

  157. Gret99zky says:

    “We want seven!”

    ouch

  158. delooper says:

    Weren’t the picks we’re seeing in the game today called interference before?

    The nuances of NHL refereeing are confusing. I wish the directives the refs got were made public.

  159. Diablo says:

    And there it is …

  160. pocession charge says:

    I’ve got a bad feeling about this game.

  161. BONE207 says:

    Oilanderp:
    Maybe this is a bad time but…. I have ice cream cake!

    Trade you for some blueberry cheese cake?

  162. Diablo says:

    Takes me back to the decade of darkness lol

  163. Wolfie says:

    delooper,

    Except when McDavid picks up his check early.

  164. Professor Q says:

    And now my root beer tastes like rum. What the hell.

    Terribel night gets worse.

  165. New Improved Darkness says:

    The stage is set: minus all four wheels, the stove, and the whippletree.

  166. spoiler says:

    If I’m TMac I come into the dressing room in good humour and get the team to chill.

  167. russ99 says:

    JDI Хоккей: You know, there’s another team on the ice tonight – a veteran laden team that was atop the Pacific division for most of the year, and one who was facing a 3 – 1 death sentence.

    It’s not always just about the Oilers.

    Yeah. tonight was a big deal, since I just don’t see a game 6 winner in San Jose in the Oilers bag of tricks yet,

    Hope they learn from this and prove me wrong.

  168. Android says:

    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Randorf’s over the top excitement is making me miss Remenda.

  169. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    I was 90% sure we were going to lose this game, but this is rediculous…
    6-0…

    At this point me thinks the Oil need to finish this game off in goon mode… smash some bodies… rattle the goalie… who cares about the penalties at this point… the zebras have obviously picked a side for this series…

    Wear them down to take them in the next two…

  170. pocession charge says:

    They’ll rebound back in Edmonton. Now goon it up in the third!!

  171. Yak Efron says:

    We got this, just a quick half dozen to open the 3rd, and we’re right back in it.

  172. Wolfie says:

    Russell finally playing the game.

  173. admiralmark says:

    Thinking positively here. Sometimes a severe beating like this is just what the Dr ordered… Get them to refocus. 2 out of next 3 are at home. No need to panic. I wish they come out in the 3rd and lay out some players though.. with good legal hard checks.

  174. ashley says:

    Russel with embellishment there to add to the embarrassment. This team needs some character right now. A group of players to play hard to the end and take the loss like professionals.

  175. Oilanderp says:

    BONE207,

    I’m willing to share!

  176. Wolfie says:

    Even the strongest metals have gone through the fire…

  177. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    spoiler,

    Agreed, no yelling but I don’t want a laugher either, the guys have to be pissed that they are getting stomped like this. TMac should give them ample rope to go out there and good it up a bit.

    Brutal score for sure but games and series ebb and flow and by god did it do some dipsy doodles tonight.

  178. BONE207 says:

    Oilanderp:
    BONE207,

    I’m willing to share!

    Me too…this thing weighs 5 kgs. People roll these things down hills in parts of the world

  179. pocession charge says:

    admiralmark:
    Thinking positively here. Sometimes a severe beating like this is just what the Dr ordered… Get them to refocus. 2 out of next 3 are at home. No need to panic. I wish they come out in the 3rd and lay out some players though.. with good legal hard checks.

    Agreed. Better to get embarrassed than lose in triple OT.

  180. Yak Efron says:

    Edmonton needs to draft some fullbacks and tackles to keep up with the new interference standard in the Pacific.

  181. Diablo says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    I was 90% sure we were going to lose this game, but this is rediculous…
    6-0…

    At this point me thinks the Oil need to finish this game off in goon mode… smash some bodies… rattle the goalie… who cares about the penalties at this point… the zebras have obviously picked a side for this series…

    Wear them down to take them in the next two…

    Agree with this – it’s not about ‘discipline’ – the Sharks are doing all the same crap to our boys and getting away with. The refs are completely biased.

    The game is over, so might as well start gooning it up – they’re going to keep getting horseshit calls anyways

  182. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    ashley,

    They’re getting their heads kicked in 6-0 and need to get some sort of emotion going and we’re gonna quibble over embellishment?

  183. russ99 says:

    pocession charge,

    I’d prefer them to find any semblance of an offense that’s deserted them for much of the series.

    Gotta figure out how to create chances off the cycle when the opposition takes away the rush.

  184. Lowetide says:

    First Period: 2-0 SJS, who also outshot 14-12 and won Corsi events 22-20.
    Second Period: 4-0 SJS, they outshot 15-5 and won Corsi events 17-4.
    Total:6-0SJS, who also outshot 29-17 and won Corsi events 39-16.

    All corsi events above are 5×5.

  185. JDI Хоккей says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: LOL ok dad

    Just the response I expected.

  186. Centre of attention says:

    Friedman I love you

    Its just one game.

    Goal differential doesn’t matter. 2-2 series, still up for grabs.

    But that spear was so fucking stupid by Draisaitl. If he misses a game we’re cooked.

    First offense, so hopefully they don’t throw the book at him.

  187. pocession charge says:

    russ99:
    pocession charge,

    I’d prefer them to find any semblance of an offense that’s deserted them for much of the series.

    Gotta figure out how to create chances off the cycle when the opposition takes away the rush.

    It’s over tonight. The third will be even because SJ will take their foot off the gas. Next game, everything will be completely different.

  188. delooper says:

    Commentators are laying the meltdown on McDavid and his Pavelski interaction. Team taking its queues from its captain. Hmm.

  189. Professor Q says:

    Wow. They’re really trying to sell Draisaitl’s tap as some terrible, outrageous, blasphemous, dangerous move.

    If he gets suspended it’ll be a travesty. Especially after Calvert only got one game.

  190. Jon K says:

    Thought I saw this show before…

    Talbot posted back to to back shutouts March 18 and 20. He then allowed 4 goals March 22 and 23, each time in less than 20 shots.

    Whether it was in him or the team, I can’t recall. I don’t really blame him for this game, team laid an egg in front of him.

  191. Diablo says:

    Burns is such a goof – love it.

  192. SK Oiler Fan says:

    BeerMe: Did you just quote yourself? Nice. What would we have gained from sitting Talbot? He wasn’t responsible for those last 2 goals and certainly doesn’t need rest.

    You sit him because there was no point in subjecting him to this any longer, Not because of the goals being his fault. Clearly the players in front of him were not interested in matching the opponents level tonight so there really was nothing to gain from wearing out your ace’s arm

  193. Oilanderp says:

    Kiazi’s children, their faces wet!
    The beast at Tanagra.

  194. Lucinius says:

    Centre of attention,

    Why are we cooked if he misses games? He hasn’t exactly been playing well.

    I’m joking. Sort of.

    Regardless, tonight is embarassing. Team wasn’t ready. Not even close. Got ran over. Refs didn’t help but there’s nothing new there and a lot of teams deal with that without imploding. They have to be better. Period.

    It isn’t the end of the world; it’s part of the team adapting to the new reality of not being a shitty, bottom-feeding joke of a team — sometimes they’ll fall back into it. What matters now is whether or not they can drag themselves out of it over the next two games.

    That said.. I’ve stopped watching the game (finished the first two periods), and that is the first time I have ever done that with an Oilers’ playoff game. They were that bad. Those fourty minutes saw the great beast of the past decade rise again.. and I decided I had better shit to do.

    Til next game.

  195. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    JDI Хоккей: Just the response I expected.

    I’m sorry I’m not interested in engaging you on an intellectual level in the heat of an oilers playoff series – the first in 11 years.

    I’m an emotional man who’s disappointed in the effort tonight. I’m not seeing them good.

    Apparently we should just agree to disagree.

  196. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Talbot is hot or cold. Hope this isn’t a multi game cold. Not the time for it probably.
    Edit- why the back up HAS to be trusted. A couple too early and pull Cam.

  197. Diablo says:

    Lucinius:
    Centre of attention,

    Why are we cooked if he misses games? He hasn’t exactly been playing well.

    I’m joking. Sort of.

    Regardless, tonight is embarassing. Team wasn’t ready. Not even close. Got ran over. Refs didn’t help but there’s nothing new there and a lot of teams deal with that without imploding. They have to be better. Period.

    It isn’t the end of the world; it’s part of the team adapting to the new reality of not being a shitty, bottom-feeding joke of a team — sometimes they’ll fall back into it. What matters now is whether or not they can drag themselves out of it over the next two games.

    That said.. I’ve stopped watching the game (finished the first two periods), and that is the first time I have ever done that with an Oilers’ playoff game. They were that better. Those fourty minutes saw the great beast of the past decade rise again.. and I decided I had better shit to do.

    Til next game.

    I think think that’s good advice.

  198. Zelepukin says:

    Jon K:
    Thought I saw this show before…

    Talbot posted back to to back shutouts March 18 and 20. He then allowed 4 goals March 22 and 23, each time in less than 20 shots.

    Whether it was in him or the team, I can’t recall. I don’t really blame him for this game, team laid an egg in front of him.

    I said it in another thread, we really don’t play all that great after a couple days rest or in this case, 2 days of media pumping our tires. We were 10-9 with 2 days rest. 6-5 when that next game was at home. 4-4 when it was way. Call it big head syndrome. JP headed.

  199. 813.52Ran says:

    BeerMe,

    BeerMe: I remember on election day Principe said on air that Maroon said would have voted for Trump if he had voted. That soured my opinion of him greatly. If he gets signed to an anchor contract I’d be the first to turn

    Leave politics out of this, you useful idiot.

  200. Dino says:

    Come on Oilers just score 1. Please.

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