REDONDO BEACH

It is such a long road to Stanley and injuries and maladies play a big part in who wins the championship. I think we all know Connor McDavid is not himself, but is it the flu, ribs or something else? We didn’t see the big speed burst in last night’s game and that’s a worry. Fortunately for McDavid and Oilers fans the world over, the support group is real and spectacular. Adam Larsson roaring the down the ice, Leon Draisaitl playing the Beliveau role and Mark Letestu cashing on the power play. How high can they fly? They may never reach the ground! Music!

THE NUMBERS LAST NIGHT

  • First 20: 0-0, Ducks had the edge in shots 10-9, Corsi for 5×5 was tied at 13-13.
  • Second 20: 1-1, Edmonton had the edge in shots 11-10, Corsi for 5×5 favored ANA 17-16.
  • Third 20: 4-2 Edmonton, ANA had the edge in shots 16-12 and the Ducks dominated the 5×5 Corsi for 26-9! What an insane set of numbers!
  • Overall: 5-3 Edmonton, Anaheim won shots 36-32, ANA won the Corsi 5×5 battle 56-38.

The heroes in this game (Leon, Larsson, Letestu) were bold and beautiful. What in the hell was Adam Larsson doing? Holy hell, boys! Leon, you beautiful man! I don’t know if we are more or less certain about this series after game one, but that was fire on ice! Music!

Ilya Ostrovsky was born in Moscow, moved here when he was 9. He loved hockey as a boy in Russia and played it in Edmonton as a child. His favorite hockey teams were the town teams, Red Army Moscow and later the Edmonton Oilers. He is the only man I’ve ever met who has seen May Day through a Kremlin window. His love of the game and growing interest in business led a young Ostrovsky to form the EMHL in 2004. One year later, Ian McClung joined him and since then the EMHL has been a growing concern in the business of men’s and women’s rec hockey in our city.

EMHL is now registering for men’s and co-ed summer hockey, you can click on the ad (or here) and register if interested. If we get enough entrants, Ilya will enter a Lowetide team in one of the leagues, but you have to make tape-to-tape passes and backcheck like a demon. I’m going to tell you more of his story in the coming days. It is fascinating, and unique (I believe) to Edmonton.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Klefbom-Larsson went 14-17 in 14:55 together. That included 10-7 with the McDavid line and Adam Larsson posted his most amazing night as an Oiler. I was prepared to rave after the first goal, but the added GWG put the night over the top. I’m not sure how many days we’ll see Larsson overshadow Klefbom offensively, but he picked a damned good night to do it. Went 7-4 against Ritchie-Getzlaf-Eaves and were +2 on the night.
  • Larsson made a play last night in the defensive zone that shows his subtle value. The Ducks were running around and controlling play, Oilers unable to break the cycle. Larsson saw an inch of daylight and pounced. Holding off the big Duck with one arm and using his other to flick the puck to a teammate, Larsson showed the experience and man strength the Oilers have missed for so long in these years. Dynamite defensive play.
  • Nurse-Benning went 11-16 in 12:43, plenty of running around and that is to be expected. Each man had a giveaway and that’s the area they need to clean up. Went 7-3 with McDavid and 6-3 against Ritchie-Getzlaf-Eaves. I’ll take that every game of this series.
  • Sekera-Russell went 7-18 together in 14:22 together and it wasn’t good. The two veterans had a helluva time in spurts last night, 3-8 with the Letestu line. Went 2-8 against Cogliano-Kesler-Silfverberg, they have a tough row to hoe but need to be better. I did enjoy Sekera’s response to bully Getzlaf at game’s end. Russell was in no-man’s land on the first GA and was no help on a later GA by Eaves. It was a bang-bang play, but he needs to make it.
  • Cam Talbot was not strong on rebounds, but did stop 33 of 36, .917.
  • Numbers via NHL.com, HockeyStats.ca and NaturalStatTrick.

MCDAVID LINE

  • Connor McDavid has the flu, is my bet. He played fewer 5×5 minutes than Leon, that’s a tell. Still, 97 had an impact on the 5×4.
  • Leon Draisaitl has been Jean Beliveau for three straight games now, and that’s just about the highest compliment this blog can give. Physical, brilliant, effective and deployed in the important parts of the game, his passing is beyond reasonable now. Magic.
  • Patrick Maroon looked comfortable back on the top line and I give him credit, he drives to the net on instinct. I think he’ll stay there for a time.
  • This trio went 9-9 against Cogliano-Kesler-Silfverberg, Kesler had two assists (one at evens and one on the PP).

NUGE LINE

  • The line went 4-5 against Ritchie-Getzlaf-Eaves, that’s going to be a fun matchup all series long.
  • Nuge finally got his first playoff point, well earned. I was flummoxed earlier when his fantastic chance on the power play didn’t cash. This young man (Nuge is only 24) is snakebit, I hope the Oilers keep dancing until the damn breaks. It would be nice to see him have success offensively.
  • Lucic had a good night, perhaps a little quiet but he was physical, passed the puck well and supported things defensively. A nice assist on the empty-netter.
  • Jordan Eberle’s skills do not match the style of this series, he is going to have to reinvent himself a little in order to have an impact.

LETESTU LINE

  • Mark Letestu is a Godsend for this team, his utility ideal for the work available. I know the club doesn’t have enough qualified men for the expansion draft, so may need to leave him exposed. I hope they figure it out before expansion day.
  • Caggiula and Kassian didn’t get a lot done, but did have 7 shot attempts between them. The line’s possession numbers were acceptable and we can’t expect a 5×5 goal every night. A reasonable road game for a support line.
  • Trio went 3-10 against Rakell-Thompson-Perry, that’s a bad matchup for the Oilers but Carlyle got it (and Sekera’s pairing) for over 7 minutes last night. The Ducks are a diabolical team because of this third  line.

DESHARNAIS LINE

  • Desharnais’ line didn’t get overwhelmed and played a lot. That’s a good result for the 4line.
  • Went 7-7 against Wagner-Vermette-Shaw, that’s good business for this line.
  • Benoit Pouliot had a good game by my eye, he was in good spots and made progress difficult.
  • Anton Slepyshev is driving the offense on this line, he had a couple of promising sorties. One of them results in a silly goalie interference call, Mr. Fuhr is spot on in his assessment.

NOTES

  • The refs were terrible and the Oilers got the short end. It’s going to happen, folks, I don’t make it a theme because it becomes the only theme once released into the wild. It is there, it is a factor, but Anaheim’s issues (defense, PK coverage) seem to be a bigger story this morning.
  • I think maybe Anaheim doesn’t have enough forwards who can play at pace. Lots of chatter about Cogliano, but that’s one guy. The Ducks theme song at times last night was Slow Train Coming and that’s not going to get it done.
  • The Ducks defense had some issues, although Lindholm-Manson was sublime. Montour has chaos and Bieksa has slow boots, meaning RH side is the soft underbelly of their blue currently. I expect we see Vatanen tomorrow night.
  • Anaheim faces an early ‘must win’ tomorrow. Sounds ridiculous, but down 2-0 heading on the road is basically getting gutshot on the streets of Laredo.
  • Leon Draisaitl is only the second Oilers in team history to score four playoff points in a game before his 22nd birthday. Wayne Gretzky did it four times. (Source: NHL.com).

TODD MCLELLAN

Todd McLellan is up for coach of the year, and I think the nod is well earned. I’ve been especially pleased with his postseason work (I had a post ready to go ripping him for Hendricks playoff deployment, but it never came) and his media avails have been informative and encouraging. I’m especially pleased McLellan has seen Nuge long enough to recognize his considerable ability. As for winning, I think all the awards (Art Ross aside) end up going out east this year, but the Jack Adams is basically the kiss of death for coaches.

SPENCER FOO

  • Foo: “Ultimately my plan is still the same; I’m waiting until the summer time, until I’m back home. I’m just taking my time with it, there’s really no point in me signing right now. What’s that going to do for me? I’m not going to hop into any NHL or AHL playoffs games right now, so we just decided it was best for me to wait until the summer and finish this last term of school. Then, we’ll see how some pieces fall into place over this summer with different teams and just find the best opportunity.” Source

I’m a Dad, and as such am watching this Foo signing story closely. I respect this young man and his handlers/parents/advisors a lot. Take your time, project yourself into each situation, live with the idea for a time. Perhaps, if he waits long enough, roster shuffling will occur and Foo will see a clear path to his dream.

JESSE PULJUJARVI

Recently, Christian Pagnani over at NHL Numbers had a lash at projecting Jesse Puljujarvi. We don’t have enough track to get a true measure of this young man, but Pagnani tackles the subject and comes away with some interesting conclusions.

  • Pagnani: His AHL scoring is in mark with recent 18-year olds, and suggests he should be able to provide a scoring role in Edmonton sooner rather than later. The Oilers can look to one of their former draft picks in Leon Draisaitl and hope for similar success in the coming years for Jesse Puljujarvi. Source

It’s an interesting take on a difficult subject. The AHL numbers were good for a player of his age, and I do believe JP will be here in the fall. Does he get the 97 line? If not, I am curious to see the offensive results.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260. A full boat and a lot of cool subjects to discuss:

  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey. The Edmonton Oilers are ahead in their second round series against Anaheim. What the hell is going on?
  • Sean Woodley, Raptors HQ. An update on the Raptors and their playoff run.
  • Andy McNamara, TSN4Downs. NFL draft, Mayock has the Eagles taking a WR and the Browns getting both their men. Can that happen?
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. This is a wild playoff spring, McDavid’s malady and Leon fire.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

 

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184 Responses to "REDONDO BEACH"

  1. leadfarmer says:

    Larsson is Weir. Weir is Larsson. Larsson’s THE MAN.

  2. Ben says:

    Drai. Crazy smart. I would’ve shit my pants five times while he was Pied Pipering five Ducks down to the goal line on the first Larsson goal.

    I also applaud Spencer’s patience. Momma didn’t raise no…uh…

  3. Ducey says:

    I have been watching hockey for 40+ yrs. I have never seen reffing this bad.

    The WWF script writers wouldn’t put that into their shows, believing it to be too ridiculous.

    Sounds like Bieksa is out.

  4. Jethro Tull says:

    Went to bed after first period. Been a long couple of days, so i couldn’t keep my eyes open. Heard my 4yo son get up at 3am to use the bathroom. He hasn’t made it a couple of times in the last week. Checked the score, said “holy shit”, heard my boy get back into bed and slept like a babe until 5:15 alarm call. Happy days and sweet dreams and the Ducks look vulnerable to speed, size and crisp passing. Funny enough, what they’re known for. Is Connor the Trojan Horse? Does his mere presence mean the opposition spend resources they can ill-afford to ensure he doesn’t destroy them?

  5. druds1 says:

    I notice the Sportsnet Panel has determined that Anaheim is Canada’s team…what tools

  6. Ducey says:

    Ben:
    Drai. Crazy smart. I would’ve shit my pants five times while he was Pied Pipering five Ducks down to the goal line on the first Larsson goal.

    I also applaud Spencer’s patience. Momma didn’t raise no…uh…

    I wonder if Foo might be waiting to see if/ where his younger brother might be drafted.

  7. Pouzar says:

    Ducey:
    I have been watching hockey for 40+ yrs. I have never seen reffing this bad.

    The WWF script writers wouldn’t put that into their shows, believing it to be too ridiculous.

    Sounds like Bieksa is out.

    Without cross checks the whole Ducks defensive scheme would be rendered useless. My god what an abomination out there.

  8. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    On JP:

    My thoughts on forward development are that while they are usually ready to deliver early, it’s actually the smaller/shiftier players that seem to break out of the gate quicker. Forwards that rely on strength to succeed at other levels take more time (Leon) because no matter how strong you are at 19, you simply are no match for yourself at 22. I believe JP will be not only a good NHLer, but an elite one, just as I had the same faith for LD. He was simply too good on the U20 stage as a 16/17 year old.

    On Larsson:

    He is a grown ass man playing defense in the National Hockey League. Thank gord for him, beautiful player.

  9. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Larsson made a play last night in the defensive zone that shows his subtle value. The Ducks were running around and controlling play, Oilers unable to break the cycle. Larsson saw an inch of daylight and pounced. Holding off the big Duck with one arm and using his other to flick the puck to a teammate, Larsson showed the experience and man strength the Oilers have missed for so long in these years. Dynamite defensive play.

    I noted that play enough that I scrolled back to it to take a picture.

    Then I saw Mike Parkatti mention the same play and I responded with my pic here: https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/857555486266327040

    Then I read your post this morning and you have a full paragraph on it.

    Awesome.

    Awesome play to remove Perry from the puck, hold him off with one arm and then one hand the puck past the Duck to Klefbom to skate it out of the zone.

    Its those plays which are subtle but sooooo important. It might have saved a goal when the game hung in the balance.

    Its those plays which give a Dmen less corsis/shots/goals against.

    Great play.

  10. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Larsson is Weir. Weir is Larsson.Larsson’s THE MAN.

    I noted this last night: https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/857465001518534658

  11. Dino says:

    1. What a game by Larsson, always thought he had a little more skill and offence to offer. As he gets more comfortable in his role I think we’ll see that emerge. Kind of like our very own Vlasic.

    2. Mcdavid is certainly sick or injured. He couldn’t skate at his usual speed which is the speed of light. He went through this in the season too, during the first game we played against Columbus. Luckily a 2day break is coming up after Sunday.

  12. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – Great post LT! LT says: “The refs were terrible and the Oilers got the short end”

    – While the refs might have been “terrible”, Oilers had 5 PP, the Ducks 3

    – “When we’re giving five power plays a night to them, it’s hard to kill,” said Ryan Getzlaf.”

    *Ducks*

  13. season not played says:

    How many more Draisaitl performances like last night are required before the passive aggressive opining for Taylor Hall, in the form of, “Draisiatl will get paid before we know if he can push the river”, stops?

  14. Lowetide says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – Great post LT!LT says: “The refs were terrible and the Oilers got the short end”

    – While the refs might have been “terrible”, Oilers had 5 PP, the Ducks 3

    – “When we’re giving five power plays a night to them, it’s hard to kill,” said Ryan Getzlaf.”

    *Ducks*

    They could have called 20 against Anaheim, and that’s not close to a lie.

  15. Offside says:

    Please just be a flu bug

  16. khildahl says:

    Kudos to Simpson and Hughson for calling a crosscheck a crosscheck all night long.

    We’ve put up with plenty of broadcast teams over the years that were quite happy to gloss over that level of goonery.

  17. speeds says:

    I don’t think the Oilers had a particularly great game, but winning without McDavid or Talbot having great games is also probably a good sign?

  18. jake70 says:

    I am quite certain i saw McDavid speed up the left side, like his usual self later in the game, well after the discussion started on there being something wrong with him. Hopefully it’s microbe related and not muscle-soft tissue.

  19. Pouzar says:

    khildahl: Kudos to Simpson and Hughson for calling a crosscheck a crosscheck all night long.

    It’s an advantage. The penalties called against the Ducks were not cross checking penalties and they will continue to use it if 1 in 300 get called. I mean really, how many were there last night?

  20. digger50 says:

    Loved Getzlaf breaking his stick and standing there like a dumb ass trying to penalty kill. Dufus.

    Loved Kassian not taking penalties. But once the game was decided delivers some punishment back onKessler.

    Mr Draisaitl is a smart, smart player

  21. Diablo says:

    Lowetide: They could have called 20 against Anaheim, and that’s not close to a lie.

    No doubt the reffing is bad, but our boys have adjusted to it – that’s a credit to TMac I think – he never the calls the refs out or shows them up, a mentality which has now made its way through the roster. The goalie interference call against Slepy was a great example of this – you could see the look on Slepy’s face (‘that’s horseshit’) but he kept his mouth shut and went to the box without chirping the refs.

    If the Oilers can keep this up, the calls will start to turn in our favour, as those asshats across The Pond just can’t stifle their douchbaggery long enough to actually play the hockey.

  22. frjohnk says:

    Good article on JP. Cheering for him.

    If he can be in the ballpark of William Nylander as an NHLer, we would have two river pushers upfront.

  23. Jethro Tull says:

    Lowetide: They could have called 20 against Anaheim, and that’s not close to a lie.

    What’s worse is that it’s been advertised by the media and the Ducks themselves in the lead up to the game exactly what they’re going to do. This changes the narrative from the refs are incompetent to the refs are willfully negligent.

  24. norm_klassen says:

    I think they pinpointed Mcdavid favouring his ribs. Might just be tender. He is playing smarter hockey ; making space for draisaitl

  25. Frank the dog says:

    season not played:
    How many more Draisaitl performances like last night are required before the passive aggressive opining for Taylor Hall, in the form of, “Draisiatl will get paid before we know if he can push the river”, stops?

    It will stop if you do.

  26. Frank the dog says:

    jake70:
    I am quite certain i saw McDavid speed up the left side, like his usual self later in the game, well after the discussion started on there being something wrong with him. Hopefully it’s microbe related and not muscle-soft tissue.

    There is a flu type virus going the rounds that has a severe physical effect on people. Lasts a day or two.

  27. Ducey says:

    frjohnk:
    Good article on JP.Cheering for him.

    If he can be in the ballpark of William Nylander as an NHLer, we would have two river pushers upfront.

    Don’t we have two already?

  28. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I noted this last night: https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/857465001518534658

    Funny. Great minds think alike.

  29. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    season not played:
    How many more Draisaitl performances like last night are required before the passive aggressive opining for Taylor Hall, in the form of, “Draisiatl will get paid before we know if he can push the river”, stops?

    See, this is the problem.

    People do a critical analysis of Drai and ask real questions about his abilities.

    Then people like you call it “passive aggressive opining for Taylor Hall”

    I really wish you didn’t post here.

    You have never added to the conversation and only post garbage like this.

  30. leadfarmer says:

    Lowetide: They could have called 20 against Anaheim, and that’s not close to a lie.

    I expected Kesler to full out tackle McDavid before the game last night. What the Ducks brought was fully expected and may actually get worse as the series progresses.

    Speed is the new size.

  31. Brantford Boy says:

    Since “it” happened, I have researched Larsson as much as possible prior to his arrival… we probably recall his former coaching staff saying “this is a guy you want in a playoff series”… I think we can all agree he is coming through in spades… I love these types of defenseman…

    DIABLO’s comments on how the coach and team don’t call the refs out is spot on, something the previous roster would cry and whine about… growth is awesome…

    Despite the ‘kiss of death’ comment, TMac has my vote for the Jack…

    Go Oilers!

  32. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Jethro Tull: What’s worse is that it’s been advertised by the media and the Ducks themselves in the lead up to the game exactly what they’re going to do.This changes the narrative from the refs are incompetent to the refs are willfully negligent.

    This exactly.

  33. Johnny Stomper says:

    The refs…. Errrrrr…..

    How Looch got the only penalty after Getzlaf crossedcheck and slashed and Looch just pushed a guy and the take him to the box.

    BRUTAL!

    Way to fight through it boys!

  34. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Frank the dog: It will stop if you do.

    Agreed.

    Its funny how the Hall haters bring him up and then immediately bitch about people talking about him.

    If you go through the threads, its the people with some weird hate for the player who was the best Oiler for years and years that start the shit.

  35. Dustylegnd says:

    Ducey,

    I hope Bieksa is Not Out….he is not well suited for this series, his subtraction is addition for that dirty old bastard Carlyle’s D corp wether he knows it or not……Bieksa knows the Lynda Ronstadt hit “Blue Bayou” better than anyone these days!

  36. season not played says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Just call it like I see it.

  37. npanciroli says:

    Larsson so far my MVP in these playoffs. I had Talbot higher into this series but this game flipped it for me.

    Really hoping McDavid gets going. Slepyshev looks like a legit scoring winger that could play top 9 next year.

  38. knighttown says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Larsson made a play last night in the defensive zone that shows his subtle value. The Ducks were running around and controlling play, Oilers unable to break the cycle. Larsson saw an inch of daylight and pounced. Holding off the big Duck with one arm and using his other to flick the puck to a teammate, Larsson showed the experience and man strength the Oilers have missed for so long in these years. Dynamite defensive play.

    I noted that play enough that I scrolled back to it to take a picture.

    Then I saw Mike Parkatti mention the same play and I responded with my pic here: https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/857555486266327040

    Then I read your post this morning and you have a full paragraph on it.

    Awesome.

    Awesome play to remove Perry from the puck, hold him off with one arm and then one hand the puck past the Duck to Klefbom to skate it out of the zone.

    Its those plays which are subtle but sooooo important.It might have saved a goal when the game hung in the balance.

    Its those plays which give a Dmen less corsis/shots/goals against.

    Great play.

    Even the last play where he earned the assist on the ENG was sublime. The Duck had the puck in the corner and Larsson was a couple of stick lengths away. Larsson did a shoulder check and noted the most likely Duck passing target. He then fake-lunged at the Duck and quickly retreated directly into the passing lane. The lunge panicked the Duck who passed the puck directly into Larsson’s waiting stick blade. Game over.

    Just a brilliant play. I coach high level kid’s hockey and teach my kids to do that when defending 2-on-1’s…lunge and intercept. As a forward myself, i know the type of panic that lunge can create.

  39. stephen sheps says:

    I’ll get back to the main story shortly, but I wanted to give an extra shout-out to my old friend Ilya, who I haven’t seen in a few years (on account of not living in Edmonton anymore), but definitely remember what 9 year old Ilya was like, (we’ve known each other since elementary school). His family was one of several Jewish families that were able to get out of the USSR during the Glasnost era that arrived in Edmonton of all places. His story is indeed unique and my friends and I were lucky to have had the amazing infusion of Russian culture into our community.

    Nice to see his baby is doing as well as it is. I remember having more than a few great hockey chats as he was developing the league and couldn’t be happier for him. Nice to see old friends doing great things! Love the idea of a Lowetide team!

  40. npanciroli says:

    Also, Simpson and Hughson are the worst. I’ll never forget or forgive Hughson openly cheering for Vancouver and saying things like, “take that, Ben Eager!”

  41. Chachi says:

    Ducey: Sounds like Bieksa is out.

    Crap! He was my pick to be the Oilers’ secret weapon in this series.

  42. knighttown says:

    Johnny Stomper:
    The refs…. Errrrrr…..

    How Looch got the only penalty after Getzlaf crossedcheck and slashed and Looch just pushed a guy and the take him to the box.

    BRUTAL!

    Way to fight through it boys!

    That was ridiculous but absolutely predictable. The refs were able to accomplish two goals; a) make it even-strength so as not to “affect” the game and b) get rid of those skirmishes.

    So I’m not surprised by it, but I fucking hate that whole “pull one out of the pile” bullshit.

    I’m going to do something I know is completely unfair because I’m hoping it will teach you that I’m unfair and therefore you won’t do anything even potentially wrong which makes my life easier.

    How about you just call the penalties that you see, every single time?

    God the NHL sucks so bad…

  43. Johnny Stomper says:

    npanciroli:
    Also, Simpson and Hughson are the worst. I’ll never forget or forgive Hughson openly cheering for Vancouver and saying things like, “take that, Ben Eager!”

    Agreed. Hughson made a comment last night like the Oilers were pushovers and going to have deal with the big bad ducks all series long. Really? It was such a stupid comment.

  44. Dustylegnd says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Ya what a prick Getzlaf is (respect) the number of slashes and cross checks he handed out were mind boggling, every break in play he had the refs ear and they gave him full attention (well done) he is a beast and answered the Bell like no other Duck…but F#K him and his bitching about power plays, they could have been penalized every shift.

  45. Spengler says:

    A couple thoughts after last nights game:

    1. I’ve felt a strange sense of calm throughout these playoffs. Maybe it is just the sense that the team is playing with house money at this point. But I also feel like some of it is coming from the greater sense of calm of the players themselves. Even after giving up the two goals in under 2 minutes, it felt like the team just went back to work. The end to end rush by Larsson was a perfect example of this; didn’t dump the puck in or make a pass just to make a pass, just calm.

    2. I think it is perfectly fair to complain about the refs. However, I think it is helpful to keep some things in mind. Whenever I look at the refs I like to compare them to the people I have worked with in various organisations. They are, at the end of the day, just doing a job.

    Some of them are literally just doing a job. They aren’t particularly good at it, but they show up on time, get enough done and don’t cause problems. Sure, they could be replaced, but there is an association to deal with (NHLOA) and they haven’t done anything too egregious yet.

    Some of them are weak, they are easily swayed by those around them, which is particularly difficult when they aren’t working in a centralized environment.

    Some of them are shit disturbers. They don’t intend to do any actual harm and are some of the hardest workers at times, but they just can’t help causing trouble.

    (Wait am I describing people I’ve worked with, refs or some of the commenters on Lowetide. I digress).

    Some of them are really good at their jobs. They take ownership of things, study and improve themselves and help others. Stars of the show.

    The one thing that I have come to learn whether leading, working in or observing organisations is this: if there are more problem members of the staff than quality ones, stop looking at them and look at the top of the organisation. The NHL decides on the standards they want set for these games. The NHL decides who gets a job and who doesn’t, who gets the lucrative next round and who doesn’t. Yelling at the ref is cathartic, and might even achieve something (though whether that is what you want accomplished isn’t a sure thing) but until the NHL decides that they want things to change, nothing will.

  46. Spengler says:

    Johnny Stomper:
    The refs…. Errrrrr…..

    How Looch got the only penalty after Getzlaf crossedcheck and slashed and Looch just pushed a guy and the take him to the box.

    BRUTAL!

    Way to fight through it boys!

    Wasn’t the penalty on Draisatl?

  47. Spengler says:

    stephen sheps:
    I’ll get back to the main story shortly, but I wanted to give an extra shout-out to my old friend Ilya, who I haven’t seen in a few years (on account of not living in Edmonton anymore), but definitely remember what 9 year old Ilya was like, (we’ve known each other since elementary school). His family was one of several Jewish families that were able to get out of the USSR during the Glasnost era that arrived in Edmonton of all places. His story is indeed unique and my friends and I were lucky to have had the amazing infusion of Russian culture into our community.

    Nice to see his baby is doing as well as it is. I remember having more than a few great hockey chats as he was developing the league and couldn’t be happier for him. Nice to see old friends doing great things! Love the idea of a Lowetide team!

    Nice post. I like the personal stories on here, from host and posters alike.

  48. Dustylegnd says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    These real or imagined critics of Drai seem to forget he is 21 years old and a physical beast, imagine him at 25, we are all so impatient, what do we want 6 points form the kid?….I just keep pointing to Scheifele….same goes for PoolParty and his potential….market bears what it does re contracts

  49. knighttown says:

    …continuing with my NHL sucks rant….

    The NHL remembers Wee Wally Bergdorfer shadowing Bearcat Morris in the 1905 Avco Cup played on the Onendaga River and how Bearcat fought through the shadowing and scurvy to lead the Louisbourg Fleur-De-Lis to the Championship. And they never forget.

    So we get this romanticization of Ryan Kesler shutting down Connor McDavid. It takes ZERO skill and I expect 75% of the NHLers could be just as effective. You don’t have to be as fast as McDavid you just have to leave enough of a gap.

    In 2017 with the defensive zone structures there isn’t a player in the history of the game that could overcome both a shadow and a neutral zone trap/structure. If Kesler continues to ignore the puck and stay a stride ahead of McDavid while giving minor stick hooks, holds or slashes, McDavid won’t be able to do anything because no one could. It’s the equivalent of double teaming a receiver in football IF you could also hit or grab the receiver with no repercussions.

    It does absolutely nothing to improve the game of hockey. If the league wanted it out the have the rules to do so. Even skating on purpose into someone’s lane is interference. All of the hooks and holds could be called.

    If McLellan had major balls I’d consider sending Connor to his defensive zone corner with Kesler in tow. We could play 4-on-4 which I assume has a higher GF/60 than 5-on-5. If the puck turns over Kesler is already offside or we just switch to 5-on-5. If Kesler leaves Connor we use the drop back pass to hit him coming up the middle with speed.

    It probably wouldn’t work but at the very least it’s a flashing red light to the NHL.

  50. fuzzy muppet says:

    The hangover today is awful. Yet I feel great at the same time!

    GOOILERS!

  51. Johnny Stomper says:

    Spengler,

    Sorry you’re right! My rage blinded me…..lol

  52. Whatif says:

    Last night I saw two things on one play that were absolutely mesmerizing.

    It was on a partial break by a Ducks forward and Klefbom, using his legs and body position, got between the Duck and the net. He largely nullified the play without taking a penalty.

    The second piece, that made this incredible, was the correct call by the referee who called the Duck forward for holding. Everyone on the ice and in the stands assumed the penalty was being called on the Oilers. Gibson even skated part way to the Duck bench.

    Literally everyone was blown away with the call and, from the replay, it was exactly the right call.

    What is really stunning is that the same officiating crew missed or ignored so many other calls.

    As Klefbom stated in an earlier interview – the reason he takes so few penalties as a D man is that he plays defense with his legs.

    He should be a write in candidate for the Lady Byng.

  53. wheatnoil says:

    leadfarmer:
    Larsson is Weir. Weir is Larsson.Larsson’s THE MAN.

    I mean, if the trade was Hall for Larsson, Lucic AND Weir, then I have a very different opinion of the deal! 🙂

  54. Dustylegnd says:

    A lot of negative sentiment about refs etc, look at the positive side boys…yes we had more power plays but the slashing cross checking and interference was ridiculous and as LT surmised could have been 20 PP’s.

    Ducks threw the kitchen sink at us and they lost….super positive….McD not right or injured…we won….Talbot good but not great…we won…..Kessler got his shit pushed in at the end and did nothing about it…had to wait for Mr Everything Getzlaf to come save him…positive….

    R E L A X boys…the Ducks are scratching their heads…and lost home ICE advantage!!!

  55. bendelson says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    The hangover today is awful.Yet I feel great at the same time!

    GOOILERS!

    It’s playoffs Fuzzy!
    Let’s call that a day-to-day ‘upper body injury’.

  56. --hudson-- says:

    knighttown,

    That would be brilliant! Reminiscent of the Flyers-Lightning game where they sat back passing d to d in front of the trap

  57. Dustylegnd says:

    Anyone else see Spectors article on Sportsbet.ca this am, piss poor journalism….very complimentary to Larsson f(all good)…..(kicks Hall while down) bush league journalism…there has to be a better take on the same story

  58. nvan97 says:

    speeds:
    I don’t think the Oilers had a particularly great game, but winning without McDavid or Talbot having great games is also probably a good sign?

    This really stood out to me as well. This team seems to be able to win virtually any type of game and they’re proving it game in, game out. Talbot stars? Oilers win. Talbot is ok? Oilers win. First line stars? Oilers win. First line doesn’t do much? Win. Losing a lead? Trailing in the 3rd? Closing out a narrow win? They are just so damn resilient and I don’t think they have any one, exploitable weakness.

  59. StixMalone says:

    Spengler,

    1. I’ve felt a strange sense of calm throughout these playoffs. Maybe it is just the sense that the team is playing with house money at this point. But I also feel like some of it is coming from the greater sense of calm of the players themselves. Even after giving up the two goals in under 2 minutes, it felt like the team just went back to work. The end to end rush by Larsson was a perfect example of this; didn’t dump the puck in or make a pass just to make a pass, just calm.

    Strangely enough the same for me. More calm than any regular season game in the last 10 years. Almost as if these are bonus games that don’t matter. Just happy to be where we are.
    After the scrum at the end of the game I could sense frustration on Ducks part and trying to get under our skin. Kudos to the boys for sticking up for each other and not letting it get to them.
    Ducks better watch out. Do they really want to get Kassian going? Game 2 will be a dandy….

  60. Diablo says:

    Dustylegnd:
    Anyone else see Spectors article on Sportsbet.ca this am, piss poor journalism….very complimentary to Larsson f(all good)…..(kicks Hall while down) bush league journalism…there has to be a better take on the same story

    Yep the headline just screamed ‘passive aggressive’.

    I’d like to see these so-called ‘media experts’ (ALL of whom proclaimed with absolutely certainty that Chia had “lost” the deal) just simply acknowledge that they underestimated the impact and ability of Adam Larsson, without having to take a shot at Hall.

  61. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Dustylegnd,

    – I might not like Spector’s style or choice of words, but I agree when he says: “The stats geeks still hate the Hall trade. The reason? Because their craft isn’t far enough along at this point to quantify the qualities in Larsson’s game that makes Edmonton better”

    – There is a small group of posters here who believe this to be true (well not that stats people are geek part!): Stats does not provide yet a holistic view of team play that allows one to assign “value” to players doing different things that all contribute differently to team success.

    – OILERS BABY!!!!!

  62. Rocknrolla says:

    StixMalone:
    Spengler,

    1. I’ve felt a strange sense of calm throughout these playoffs. Maybe it is just the sense that the team is playing with house money at this point. But I also feel like some of it is coming from the greater sense of calm of the players themselves. Even after giving up the two goals in under 2 minutes, it felt like the team just went back to work. The end to end rush by Larsson was a perfect example of this; didn’t dump the puck in or make a pass just to make a pass, just calm.

    Strangely enough the same for me. More calm than any regular season game in the last 10 years. Almost as if these are bonus games that don’t matter. Just happy to be where we are.
    After the scrum at the end of the game I could sense frustration on Ducks part and trying to get under our skin. Kudos to the boys for sticking up for each other and not letting it get to them.
    Ducks better watch out. Do they really want to get Kassian going? Game 2 will be a dandy….

    I agree 100%!

    This has to be the coaching. No crazy cells like the leafs freaking out. Just a calm workmanlike confidence and demeanour. I think connor and Leon help with this as they are humble guys.

    Great to see. It’s working gentlemen! Bask in it today….there’s a jump in my step.

  63. frjohnk says:

    On the backend,

    Kelfbom is a river pusher
    Larsson is the anti river pusher ( for opposing river pushers)

    Larssons defensive play against Perry that was mentioned by WG and LT was a work of art.

    I loved McLellans pressor where he was talking about Larsson having the skill ( to make great offensive plays) but he plays the tough minutes and does the tough work so the other guys can work their magic.

    Larsson is still getting used to the system, coaching and team, and is young enough that I believe he has another gear. Love this guy.

  64. Spengler says:

    Dustylegnd:
    Anyone else see Spectors article on Sportsbet.ca this am, piss poor journalism….very complimentary to Larsson f(all good)…..(kicks Hall while down) bush league journalism…there has to be a better take on the same story

    Really unnecessary. You’d think Hall had killed his dog, then drank his last beer.

    Putting everything in the past on Hall and everything today on Larsson is just narrative driven “reporting”. I thought maybe it was just a headline issue, some poor copy editor trying to make things splashier. But the article was just as bad.

    There are 20 players on a team at a time. Relative softness or hardness (phrasing) isn’t down to one of them.

  65. dustrock says:

    I too have the sense of calm. I really, really wanted the Oilers to beat the Sharks, partially to shut up the Flames and Leafs fans, but also for more obvious reasons.

    Now it’s just fun watching these kids see how far they can push things. Watching the unlikely playoff heroes, and reliving everything here on Lowetide, with our host bringing the personal flavor and memories.

    The 830 pm games are killing my work ethic the next day though.

  66. russ99 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: (Quote)  (Reply)

    I get it, the trade hurt.

    So did the Coffey, Gretzky, Messier, Weight and Smyth trades. And I don’t think I’ve ever been more upset at a sports GM in my life as when they traded Miro Satan, who I saw play in the IHL.

    At some point we should be more into our current team that managed to grind out a tough second round playoff win on their ice than rehashing old stuff about a player that’s not here anymore.

  67. dustrock says:

    Also, not loving Maroon on the top line.

  68. nvan97 says:

    If McDavid is sick what’s stopping him from coughing on Kesler all game?

  69. Skook says:

    I have a 13 year old son who, by virtue of his age, is something of an expert on immature humour. He thinks our opponents should be called the “Anaheim Dicks.” I can’t believe i never thought of that before!

  70. flea says:

    Ice was awful last night too, lots of pucks bouncing over sticks, especially in the first. Hopefully the cooler temps in Edmonton will have Rogers ready to go on Sunday.

  71. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Dustylegnd:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    These real or imagined critics of Drai seem to forget he is 21 years old and a physical beast, imagine him at 25, we are all so impatient, what do we want 6 points form the kid?….I just keep pointing to Scheifele….same goes for PoolParty and his potential….market bears what it does re contracts

    There is no problem debating Drai, his ability and his worth.

    The problem is the people who have a Hall fixation always driving the conversation back to Hall and then bitching about people talking about Hall.

  72. bendelson says:

    frjohnk: Larsson is the anti river pusher ( for opposing river pushers)

    Hence the ‘Eurasian Beaver’ moniker I have half-heartedly attempted to attach to the Larsson throughout the year.

    Didn’t catch on… which may just be a good thing.

  73. Diablo says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    Dustylegnd,

    – I might not like Spector’s style or choice of words, but I agree when he says: “The stats geeks still hate the Hall trade. The reason? Because their craft isn’t far enough along at this point to quantify the qualities in Larsson’s game that makes Edmonton better”

    – There is a small group of posters here who believe this to be true (well not that stats people are geek part!):Stats does not provide yet a holistic view of team play that allows one to assign “value” to players doing different things that all contribute differentlyto team success.

    – OILERS BABY!!!!!

    You know what has really struck me about Larsson’s play pretty much all year is just how calm he is on the ice. You can really start to see that translating into his offence now – he’s carrying the puck a lot more than earlier in the season, and pinching down low a lot more as well.

    On the 3-3 goal, he didn’t rush his shot, like your typical defensive D-man would, but waited a beat to pick his spot.

    On the 4-3 goal he had his head up the whole way up the ice, and while he got a bit lucky on the goal, he actually was trying to bank it off the back of Gibson, who had overcommitted on the play and was out of position from his net.

    He rarely sends a bad pass up the ice – most of the time his passes are crisp and on target. And he’s very strong on his skates. I find him to be just a very intelligent player – he knows that he needs to provide some offence and he’s starting to deliver now. Last night was a glimpse at what his peak years are going to look like.

  74. Chachi says:

    The Hall bashing is stupid, although in Spector’s case that article is actually pretty tame coming from him. What is also stupid is the Larsson bashing that has gone on all year. We’ve heard that he’s a #4 d-man, he can’t make a pass, he’s a “passenger” etc. It’s all bullshit and it’s all a waste of time, but it isn’t taking away my enjoyment of the Oilers’ run in these playoffs which I hope will continue for quite a while longer. Fuck the Ducks! Goilers!

  75. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: There is no problem debating Drai, his ability and his worth.

    The problem is the people who have a Hall fixation always driving the conversation back to Hall and then bitching about people talking about Hall.

    This goes both ways no? There are some pretty prominent members of the Oilogosphere who have pinned tweets that mock the Oilers for the trade that were bitching last night that people were bringing up the trade after the game.

  76. Dustylegnd says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Roger

  77. tcho says:

    Lots of people talking about the brutal “even-up” call to nullify that first period PP. haven’t seen anyone mention the intent-to-injure cross check to the back/boarding against Drai immediately before the net front battle between Getzlaf and Lucic. What an unbelievably cheap and dirty team. LT is right. Ducks probably deserved 20 penalties but …

  78. wheatnoil says:

    speeds:
    I don’t think the Oilers had a particularly great game, but winning without McDavid or Talbot having great games is also probably a good sign?

    What’s more, they did it while the Nuge line got crushed in corsi and xG at 5×5. Corsica has the single game xG at 14.8% xGF!

  79. Jesse says:

    I think there are two ways one can approach the fact that people are still hurt over the Taylor Hall trade:

    1. You can see this pain (and the hanging on to it) as a result of investing one’s emotions into Taylor Hall as a player. He was the original promised saviour, the fanbase had to go through the worst season in team history (up to that point) to get him, and he was a figurehead for hope (which is a dangerous thing). It’s very reasonable to believe that Hall meant a lot to Oiler fans for these reasons, among others (his high scoring totals and exciting play). When something that means a lot to you on many levels gets taken away, in my experience, people don’t get over that easily, and certainly not in less than a year.

    or

    2. You can see this pain (and the hanging on to it) as a result of people being petty and pedantic.

    This might be reductive, but I think whichever way you approach that is somewhat illustrative of how you view people in general, either optimistically or pessimistically.

    Thoughts?

  80. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    knighttown:
    …continuing with my NHL sucks rant….

    The NHL remembers Wee Wally Bergdorfer shadowing Bearcat Morris in the 1905 Avco Cup played on the Onendaga River and how Bearcat fought through the shadowing and scurvy to lead the Louisbourg Fleur-De-Lis to the Championship. And they never forget.

    So we get this romanticization of Ryan Kesler shutting down Connor McDavid.It takes ZERO skill and I expect 75% of the NHLers could be just as effective.You don’t have to be as fast as McDavid you just have to leave enough of a gap.

    In 2017 with the defensive zone structures there isn’t a player in the history of the game that could overcome both a shadow and a neutral zone trap/structure.If Kesler continues to ignore the puck and stay a stride ahead of McDavid while giving minor stick hooks, holds or slashes, McDavid won’t be able to do anything because no one could.It’s the equivalent of double teaming a receiver in football IF you could also hit or grab the receiver with no repercussions.

    It does absolutely nothing to improve the game of hockey.If the league wanted it out the have the rules to do so.Even skating on purpose into someone’s lane is interference.All of the hooks and holds could be called.

    If McLellan had major balls I’d consider sending Connor to his defensive zone corner with Kesler in tow.We could play 4-on-4 which I assume has a higher GF/60 than 5-on-5.If the puck turns over Kesler is already offside or we just switch to 5-on-5.If Kesler leaves Connor we use the drop back pass to hit him coming up the middle with speed.

    It probably wouldn’t work but at the very least it’s a flashing red light to the NHL.

    Couldn’t agree more KT.

    Great series of posts.

    I’m convinced that most of this still exists because they have a bunch of “hockey guys” in operations and the VP of Hockey Ops was noted plugger Dman Colin Campbell.

    That’s they way they played playoff hockey.

    That’s they way the remember playoff hockey.

    That’s they way they want playoff hockey to be.

    Not entirely connected to this but culturally similar, Gabe Desjardin ranted the other day about how inbred the NHL management culture is.

    Worth a read: https://twitter.com/behindthenet/status/857056842681167872

  81. dustrock says:

    wheatnoil: What’s more, they did it while the Nuge line got crushed in corsi and xG at 5×5. Corsica has the single game xG at 14.8% xGF!

    The weird thing is, other than maybe a 5 minute stretch where the Ducks were really coming on, despite the gap in the stats, I didn’t think the Ducks were all that scary.

  82. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Couldn’t agree more KT.

    Great series of posts.

    I’m convinced that most of this still exists because they have a bunch of “hockey guys” in operations and the VP of Hockey Ops was noted plugger Dman Colin Campbell.

    That’s they way they played playoff hockey.

    That’s they way the remember playoff hockey.

    That’s they way they want playoff hockey to be.

    Not entirely connected to this but culturally similar, Gabe Desjardin ranted the other day about how inbred the NHL management culture is.

    Worth a read: https://twitter.com/behindthenet/status/857056842681167872

    Great read. Also Colin Campbell is the worst person in hockey which is an accomplishment given how many terrible people are employed by the NHL and its teams.

  83. russ99 says:

    dustrock,

    I thought their first line gave us all sorts of trouble, and we’re a bit lucky they didn’t cash more. Too much reacting, swarming and blown coverage, hand grenade pucks on the wall, etc.

    The other Ducks lines, not so much.

  84. McSorley33 says:

    I thought Hughson and Simpson did a good job….

    Sleppy really showing off his toolkit here. As Craig S mentioned, that is a pretty fleet footed Dman he just blew around…..

    Plus, Kyp calling out the bizarre, multiple slashes, by Getzlaf after the whistle that granted the
    Ducks ? a PP.

    We are going to have to get used to reffing.

    Just score on the PP and a lot of sh’t will disappear quickly.

    I am with Mr. Staples. Very frustrated this year at times with Letestu – but all he does is produce on the PP. Glad to be wrong also.

    Game 2 Duck Plan:

    Concentrate all firepower on Sekera – Russell

    Coyote Ugly – but maybe one of them ( Sek or Russell ) is fighting the flu as well.

  85. Wolfie says:

    Dustylegnd,

    Spector asked the question in the post game media avail about the Larsson-Hall trade and loaded the question up. Set out the big old bear trap…. MacLellan did an excellent job of not throwing Hall under the bus. Of course Spec will ignore what MacLellan’s meaning truly is and take a pot shot at Hall.

    I guess Spec has an axe to grind. You know the saying Once an Oiler, Always an Oiler. Well Hall may no longer don the sweater but he was a part of this process and this success. He carried this undermanned team on his back and was the only player of value when it came time to address need.

    If the Oilers somehow manage to win the Cup or a Cup in the coming years I know Taylor will feel a bit bitter but he should be proud of his contributions to this franchise.

    Larsson has been a tower of strength. If Kypreos can get his name on the Cup without playing a game in the playoffs maybe the Oilers could petition the league to add Hall’s name if they win it… (I jest, sort of)

  86. hags9k says:

    So you are driving in circles in the deep South and get a flat tire.

    You look for the spare but then remember you don’t have it anymore. It lit on fire. In a tire fire.

    No traffic for hours then finally along comes a man from Jersey. He offers to trade you his spare for the shiny new $2000 rolex on your wrist. Do you wait for another car?

    Chiarrelli forked over the watch. It stung, but you know what, there’s lot’s of good tread on that tire and we’re making good time.

  87. dustrock says:

    russ99:
    dustrock,

    I thought their first line gave us all sorts of trouble, and we’re a bit lucky they didn’t cash more.Too much reacting, swarming and blown coverage, hand grenade pucks on the wall, etc.

    The other Ducks lines, not so much.

    Fair enough. Forgot the various posts.

  88. McSorley33 says:

    russ99,

    I thought their first line gave us all sorts of trouble, and we’re a bit lucky they didn’t cash more. Too much reacting, swarming and blown coverage, hand grenade pucks on the wall, etc.
    **************************************************************************************
    Agreed.

    The numbers LT posted on the Nuge line speak for themselves.

  89. Dustylegnd says:

    McSorley33,

    Great point about Kyper telling it like it is re the Getzlaf gong show vs Lucic, Freidman also strait up stating the facts…”this is going to be a dirty series”…the best part is that the Ducks tried to drag it into the gutter got the benefit of the doubt on calls and still lost at home…Taste It Bitches

  90. Oilin4 says:

    If Larsson’s two goals mean that the Hall trade is now won in favor of Larsson, can I ask: If Larsson’s ridiculous giveaway at the end of the 1st (which led to Sleppy’s penalty, which led to a goal) had not been redeemed later, does that mean the trade would have been won in favor of Hall?

    To be clear: Of course not.

    Mark Spector needs to work on creating more original content.

  91. Scungilli Slushy says:

    knighttown:
    …continuing with my NHL sucks rant….

    The NHL remembers Wee Wally Bergdorfer shadowing Bearcat Morris in the 1905 Avco Cup played on the Onendaga River and how Bearcat fought through the shadowing and scurvy to lead the Louisbourg Fleur-De-Lis to the Championship. And they never forget.

    So we get this romanticization of Ryan Kesler shutting down Connor McDavid.It takes ZERO skill and I expect 75% of the NHLers could be just as effective.You don’t have to be as fast as McDavid you just have to leave enough of a gap.

    In 2017 with the defensive zone structures there isn’t a player in the history of the game that could overcome both a shadow and a neutral zone trap/structure.If Kesler continues to ignore the puck and stay a stride ahead of McDavid while giving minor stick hooks, holds or slashes, McDavid won’t be able to do anything because no one could.It’s the equivalent of double teaming a receiver in football IF you could also hit or grab the receiver with no repercussions.

    It does absolutely nothing to improve the game of hockey.If the league wanted it out the have the rules to do so.Even skating on purpose into someone’s lane is interference.All of the hooks and holds could be called.

    If McLellan had major balls I’d consider sending Connor to his defensive zone corner with Kesler in tow.We could play 4-on-4 which I assume has a higher GF/60 than 5-on-5.If the puck turns over Kesler is already offside or we just switch to 5-on-5.If Kesler leaves Connor we use the drop back pass to hit him coming up the middle with speed.

    It probably wouldn’t work but at the very least it’s a flashing red light to the NHL.

    I think this is exactly what you do when you have a player like McDavid. When Detroit was playing I believe the Devils, Scotty Bowman was asked about the trap and he said let them try, I’ll have Federov start with the puck in our end and skate it through them or the like.

    I do believe the first game was feeling out for McLellan, and they will adjust. What we saw last night is all the Fowl have.

    Don’t get baited, smoke the goof balls (Getzlaf, Kesler, Perry and Manson) hard whenever possible, but clean Like Lucic, and don’t chirp the refs. I think they can do it. And do punish any hacks on McDavid fiercely.

    Actually Lucic got away with a pretty heavy cross checking assualt on I believe Manson who he knocked down that they were replaying last night. That must have hurt.

  92. Spengler says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    I’m fairly certain that crosscheck was Maroon.

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  94. leadfarmer says:

    You know what’s better than beating the Ducks in the Pond for a 1-0 series lead.

    Talking about Taylor Hall

  95. Jethro Tull says:

    Chachi:
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    They use the same refs.

  96. Caller Zen says:

    Will be interesting to see how Getzlaf is feeling tomorrow after taking that Maroon shot off his foot/leg last night. He was hobbling back to the bench afterwards and was extra pissy at the end of the game – more pissy than usual!

  97. Chachi says:

    Jethro Tull: They use the same refs.

    I think they get away with a lot less in MMA actually.

  98. khildahl says:

    Jethro Tull: They use the same refs.

    I’d take Herb Dean over Marc Joanette any time.

  99. Clarkenstein says:

    So the Oil have the game they came for. Now I would remove Ebs and Desharnais and replace them with some size and skill from the Black Aces. After the way Getz abused Sekera in the last few seconds I’d put a bullseye on that big bastard from the opening faceoff. Carlyle is old school so let’s play it his way. I don’t think the Ducks have the stamina to finish a rough, tough fast skating series.

  100. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Spengler:
    Scungilli Slushy,

    I’m fairly certain that crosscheck was Maroon.

    May have been, I missed that part of the game and only caught the replay, either way it was nasty.

  101. wheatnoil says:

    dustrock: The weird thing is, other than maybe a 5 minute stretch where the Ducks were really coming on, despite the gap in the stats, I didn’t think the Ducks were all that scary.

    Agreed. As LT outlined in his post, it really wasn’t until the 3rd when the Ducks started pressing. Till then, the game was even and the Oilers did a pretty good job keeping the shots away from the slot.

  102. delooper says:

    jake70:
    I am quite certain i saw McDavid speed up the left side, like his usual self later in the game, well after the discussion started on there being something wrong with him. Hopefully it’s microbe related and not muscle-soft tissue.

    I thought that too then realized “oh, that’s Pouliot”

  103. Scungilli Slushy says:

    McDavid drew a penalty with speed, he’s just not doing it very much. Pouliot being 67 often seems like McDavid at first glance.

  104. StixMalone says:

    leadfarmer:
    You know what’s better than beating the Ducks in the Pond for a 1-0 series lead.

    Talking about Taylor Hall

    Larsson has 4 more career playoff points than Hall. Ooh I know I shouldn’t have but…..( cowering in the corner like Kesler at end of game)

  105. stephen sheps says:

    Spengler: I like the personal stories on here, from host and posters alike.

    There are some days where I visit for the hockey talk, days I’m here just for the numbers, but its the stories that keep this place special day over day and year over year.

    By the way, I know I still owe you another email, but thanks again for all of those Taiwan tips. I’m getting real excited for this trip… now if only I could dump the rest of my marking onto my TAs so I could actually start writing my conference paper.

  106. delooper says:

    StixMalone: Larsson has 4 more career playoff points than Hall. Ooh I know I shouldn’t have but…..( cowering in the corner like Kesler at end of game)

    With last night’s game I think all the Taylor Hall talk has passed a threshold. It’s becoming more of an in-joke than a community sore point.

  107. Doug McLachlan says:

    Ducey: I wonder if Foo might be waiting to see if/ where his younger brother might be drafted.

    Interesting thought. Don’t see Parker Foo on Central Scouting’s list. 6’1″ PPG player with the Bandits is certainly credible. Do we know if Parker’s plan is to go the NCAA route as well?

    I’ve seen less promising draft and wait prospects.

  108. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – Just did a little reading:

    -Out of 615 best-of-seven series, the winner of Game 1 has won 422, or 68.6%.
    -The winner of Game 2 has also won exactly 422/615, 68.6%.
    – the winner of Game 3 has won 433/615 best-of-seven series, for 70.4%

    – I can’t find the numbers for winning first game on the Road though…

    – Basically Yuge win! Win and we are in baby!

  109. digger50 says:

    Diablo: Yep the headline just screamed ‘passive aggressive’.

    I’d like to see these so-called ‘media experts’ (ALL of whom proclaimed with absolutely certainty that Chia had “lost” the deal) just simply acknowledge that they underestimated the impact and ability of Adam Larsson, without having to take a shot at Hall.

    Very well said.

    Adam is an outstanding defenceman. Period. You need not go into a negative comparison to make that point.

  110. Pouzar says:

    Chachi: This goes both ways no? There are some pretty prominent members of the Oilogosphere

    A MILLION TIMES THIS. And one in particular who has been shitting on Larsson all year.

  111. Younger Oil says:

    For years and years in the NHL, the teams who go further into the postseason have more people on the team going in for surgery at the end of the year.

    You’d think the higher ups in the NHL would want to protect their assets, but no, they create what is essentially a war of attrition.

    In most years, the team that has to deal with the least extracurricular bullshit is the least injured team, and has the best chance to win the playoffs. It takes away the value of the “grand prize”. Honestly, it’s starting to make sense that hockey isn’t the most popular sport.

    -The rules in baseball and basketball don’t suddenly change in the post season.

    -Football players get a week off to tend to their injuries from the physicality of the sport.

    -In soccer, a foul, whether it was a mistake from the referee or not, usually doesn’t affect the course and the momentum of the game (unless it was in the box).

    If someone was watching last nights game as their first ever hockey game, it would do absolutely nothing to get them to watch more.

    “How come the player who slashed once was given a penalty, but the person who did it three times wasn’t?”

    “At the same time, that slash is happening 10 times a shift. It doesn’t make sense that you’re allowed to do that, until the refs decide one instance isn’t.”

    “Why is that one Kesler guy allowed to follow that player everywhere and keep him from going where he wants to go? It takes no skill, and makes the game boring to watch.”

    If there is a rulebook, stick to the fucking rulebook. I don’t care if it doesn’t create a good “story” to the game, if you don’t stick to the letter of the law at all times, the referees are choosing who gets the momentum. That is the stupidest thing you can have in sport. Every time you don’t call a penalty that has been called before, you are giving a team an advantage for doing something that is against the rules of the game. That is the absolute last thing you want in competitive sports where you are trying to draw the biggest audience possible.

  112. SkatinginSand says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    The trouble is, anyone who initially supported the trade was immediately and thoroughly trashed by the general group here. It was so bad that I quit reading this blog for a couple of months. Now that Larsson is showing his true worth, it is difficult for these people (myself included) not to rub some noses in it. Doesn’t make it right, but it is human nature.

  113. Doug McLachlan says:

    Dino:
    1. What a game by Larsson, always thought he had a little more skill and offence to offer. As he gets more comfortable in his role I think we’ll see that emerge. Kind of like our very own Vlasic.

    Vlasic! What a fantastic comparison.

    Any he’s ours for four more years at $4.166M – awesome.

  114. McNuge93 says:

    That scrum after the final whistle was started by Kass cross checking Kessler. Good time to take a shot at him when it can’t hurt your team with a penalty. It was too bad looch or maroon weren’t on the ice to deal with getzlaf

  115. Thorin says:

    A key point for me was the defensive responsibility in the empty net goal. I know, why am I talking about defensive responsibility with that, right? Well, most players see the empty net and just shoot it from far away to try and get the goal. But Lucic and Draisaitl both realized if they missed, it would be icing, and there would be a faceoff in their own end, plus for quite a bit of the skate up-ice with the puck there was a Ducks defenseman doing a really good job being in the scoring lane, so if they shot it and he intercepted it and quickly passed, there’d probably be a sudden 5 on 3. So instead of jumping on the possibility of a playoff goal to add to their tally, they kept carrying the puck up ice and passing east-west (less likely to be intercepted) until the lane was clear and there was no danger of icing.

    Sure, the score was great and I’m glad they won the first game. Moreso, though, I’m glad the team seems to have learned to not jump like an excited puppy on a chance to score a goal, but that the players actually think about what their missed shot might cost the team. That, right there, is a really important lesson for the next ten years.

  116. Doug McLachlan says:

    Offside:
    Please just be a flu bug

    I have to think this is the most plausible explanation.

    Drai had *cough* it for the start of the Sharks series. Klefbom near the end of the Sharks series such that he’s stapled to the bench in the 3rd of game 6 after launching that rocket the game before.

    Good Lord can you imagine how good this team will be when they get over the flu. Bwahahahah.

  117. digger50 says:

    Clarkenstein:
    So the Oil have the game they came for. Now I would remove Ebs and Desharnaisand replace themwith some size and skill from the Black Aces. After the way Getz abused Sekera in the last few seconds I’d put a bullseye on that big bastard from the opening faceoff.Carlyle is old school so let’s play it his way.I don’t think the Ducks have the stamina to finish a rough, tough fast skating series.

    I would have Eberle in, but to your point:

    If the feeling is that the Ducks will come out with murder in thier minds then the roster can be altered. Gryba and Hendricks are well suited for a rough game and although a step slow, they are well rested and unbruised.

    Tough decision.

    Ducks really need that game two at home.

    Towards the end of game one the Oilers defence were throwing the puck away and trying to sidestep the hits. Lots of aggression on Duck forecheck. That can get tiring, force turnovers, and lead to injuries for coming games.

    We might take game two in California. But if Tmac sees a few players not 100%, need rest or thinks they will get rattled then I expect he’ll go with the heavier veteran line up.

  118. SkatinginSand says:

    Younger Oil,

    Nailed it!

  119. Bag of Pucks says:

    Chachi: Great read. Also Colin Campbell is the worst person in hockey which is an accomplishment given how many terrible people are employed by the NHL and its teams.

    Personally, I would give the title of ‘worst person in hockey’ to Graham James for the rest of recorded history.

  120. leadfarmer says:

    Doug McLachlan: Vlasic!What a fantastic comparison.

    Any he’s ours for four more years at $4.166M – awesome.

    If only there was someone around here that made that comparison 9 months ago.

  121. wheatnoil says:

    Doug McLachlan: Vlasic!What a fantastic comparison.

    Any he’s ours for four more years at $4.166M – awesome.

    I think we’re aiming awfully high with the Vlasic comparison.

    Larsson had a beauty of a game yesterday, but I don’t think we should set ourselves up for disappointment by trying to compare him to a guy like Vlasic.

    I thought Larsson did a great job defensively and had a few moments offensively, which he cashed in on. He shows glimpses of those offensive moments at times, but at 24, I don’t think he’s suddenly going to make big strides in the puck movement part of his game.

    I suspect that Larsson will always have to be paired with a better puck-mover (a Klefbom or a Sekera, as examples) but in that context he’ll be well worth his contract as a Top 4 guy for a long time.

    (Note: I don’t think there’s much difference from defenceman numbers 1 through 4 based on how McLellan runs his d-core.)

  122. UnjustEnrichment says:

    UnjustEnrichment,

    Another truth: the statistics seem to ignore what cannot be measured in numbers. Some players are more than the sum of their stats.

  123. Diablo says:

    Thorin:
    A key point for me was the defensive responsibility in the empty net goal.

    Yeah, Lucic made a few mistakes in the game but his positioning in the D-zone was absolutely perfect on that shift – with the puck against the wall and 2 Oilers there already, he did not abandon his position to join in the scrum. It would have been easy too in the anxiety of the moment, but his attention to that small detail paid off handsomely with the EN goal.

  124. Bank Shot says:

    McNuge93:
    That scrum after the final whistle was started by Kass cross checking Kessler. Good time to take a shot at him when it can’t hurt your team with a penalty. It was too bad looch or maroon weren’t on the ice to deal with getzlaf

    If I was Mclellan I would have iced Lucic, Maroon, and Nurse for the last face off and instructed Lucic to break his stick on someone. 🙂

    Slepyshev is really showing well with his icetime the last couple of games. I can’t really remember him making too many mistakes throughout the year that lead to goals against either. Good on the boards. I think he could have a Pouliot-like career.

  125. npanciroli says:

    Chiarelli did a great job finding a guy that fits well with Klefbom to have a legit top pairing for the next few years.

  126. Jethro Tull says:

    McNuge93: It was too bad looch or maroon weren’t on the ice to deal with getzlaf

    Getzlaf tried it on with Looch at the start of the game. Looch nearly came unglued and said something i couldn’t make out and Getzlaf decided smaller players were easier pickings.

  127. season not played says:

    I have no issue with Taylor Hall. None. Password to my work computer is still Taylor4.

    My issue is with people trotting out Taylor Halls 5×5/60 and saying the Devils smoked the Oilers in the trade.

    My issue is with people comparing Taylor Hall to Marcel Dionne and believing it.

    My issue is the fact that on day one of the trade I called it a wonderful deal for the Oilers and got lambasted by people who don’t know what they are talking about.

    My issue is with people who think they know what they are talking about but actually don’t.

    My issue is with people who cloud the issue when they know they are wrong and stubbornly defend something they see happening on a piece of paper because that’s all they can see.

    Hope that clears up my motivations.

  128. Jethro Tull says:

    Bank Shot: If I was Mclellan I would have iced Lucic, Maroon, and Nurse for the last face off and instructed Lucic to break his stick on someone. 🙂

    If the game wasn’t so tight: Looch – Drai – Kassian, Nurse – Larsson. Faster, pussycat, kill, kill.

    Maybe Maroon instead of Drai with Looch taking the FO. If the game wasn’t so tight. Before anyone starts.

  129. wheatnoil says:

    npanciroli:
    Chiarelli did a great job finding a guy that fits well with Klefbom to have a legit top pairing for the next few years.

    I think Klefbom fits well with a lot of people. I mean, as Woodguy tweeted yesterday, Klefbom managed a greater than 50% corsi with Schultz taking on tough competition last year.

    Right now we have two left handed D that have a history of taking on tough competition and sawing off (Klefbom and Sekera). We now have a right handed D that can do the same and all three of them are signed for the foreseeable future. I think Larsson should be able to play well with either Klefbom or Sekera (and he’s done well with Sekera in limited time this year).

    Just need one more right-handed D this summer and we should be close to set to seeing LT’s balance picture!

  130. Jethro Tull says:

    season not played: Password to my work computer is still Taylor4.

    Yes, we know.

    Yours,

    V. Putin, Moscow.

  131. Diablo says:

    wheatnoil,

    When the trade went down I saw a parallel to the Shanahan for Pronger trade – high scoring LW for a young, highly-regarded, physical and mobile D. Keenan got roasted for that deal then, as Chia did now. And it took Pronger few years to find his stride in St. Louis but his offence eventually broke out. We remember him best for his year in Edmonton, but there were a lot of growing pains before then.

    I’m not saying Larsson’s upside is Pronger, but rather that he’s still developing – I think in time we’ll see more offence off Larsson’s stick, as the coaching staff becomes more comfortable playing him in all situations.

    Defensively though, he’s the best we’ve had since the Rake, and that says a lot.

  132. Ducey says:

    Doug McLachlan: Interesting thought.Don’t see Parker Foo on Central Scouting’s list.6’1″ PPG player with the Bandits is certainly credible.Do we know if Parker’s plan is to go the NCAA route as well?

    I’ve seen less promising draft and wait prospects.

    Yeah, I think I read Parker is going to go to Union next year.

    As far as I can tell he was eligible for last year’s draft, by three days. So if drafted he would be an overager (but just barely).

  133. TheRage says:

    Diablo,

    Why does Spec take shots at Eakins and Hall, and not Mact T and Lowe? Even if you accept the worst view of the former two, the latter two have been far more responsible for the putrid overall performance of the team (including, of course, employing Eakins and drafting Hall). He’s a bully and a coward.

  134. Ducey says:

    Bank Shot:

    I think he could have a Pouliot-like career.

    Ah, come on, be nice.

  135. Ducey says:

    TheRage:
    Diablo,

    Why does Spec take shots at Eakins and Hall, and not Mact T and Lowe? Even if you accept the worst view of the former two, the latter two have been far more responsible for the putrid overall performance of the team (including, of course, employing Eakins and drafting Hall).He’s a bully and a coward.

    He is a journalist who gets paid by the story. If he wants to keep getting paid, he needs web hits on his stories. Controversy invites hits.

    Its not that complicated.

    If you don’t want him around, stop reading his stuff.

  136. Diablo says:

    TheRage:
    Diablo,

    Why does Spec take shots at Eakins and Hall, and not Mact T and Lowe? Even if you accept the worst view of the former two, the latter two have been far more responsible for the putrid overall performance of the team (including, of course, employing Eakins and drafting Hall).He’s a bully and a coward.

    Yep – I’ve long stopped read his articles – saw the headline and figured it was another hatchet job. He’s probably saving his critique of MacT and/or Lowe for the day they exit the organization.

  137. khildahl says:

    Mark Spector squeezes the middle of the toothpaste tube.

  138. Chachi says:

    Bag of Pucks: Personally, I would give the title of ‘worst person in hockey’ to Graham James for the rest of recorded history.

    He sure as hell should not be involved in hockey in any way now, but point taken.

  139. Chachi says:

    Pouzar: A MILLION TIMES THIS. And one in particular who has been shitting on Larsson all year.

    In the same vein a lot of these folks (smart men and women all) have spent the last 15 hours or so mocking many people for how they celebrated the Oilers’ win after spending much of the season complaining about how people have been trying to tell them how to enjoy hockey.

  140. Melvis says:

    Where are the lawyers when you need them?

    I pissed away half the morning going through every clause in the 2010/2014 NHL/NHLOA CBA. I didn’t bother looking for the current five year deal. Suffice it to say, things aren’t as simple as they look, and given a broad brush and some tar – everything is open to interpretation.

    Imo, the NHLOA enjoys a considerable amount of power, not unlike any public sector service union. Of course the NHL can fire or suspend for just cause. ‘Just cause’, however, has very little or nothing to do with calling the rule book, which is pretty much open to on-ice whimsy by the stripes.

    And the repercussions for repeated expressions of zebra whimsey amount to little more than small fines for repeated failures. By small, I mean about $350 to a ref pulling in $250k/year plus.

    We’re all familiar with the historic trope concerning power and corruption. And there’s very little one can do about that from the armchair. Braying at the moon over real or perceived bias accomplishes nothing. I’ve decided on tai chi for the playoffs. That, and the possibility of a future blog designed to shame and embarrass them at every turn, regardless of team through the regular season.

    The owners can certainly make their thoughts known. They can also get ignored by the NHLOA – as far as that goes.

    Here’s the thing and another small anecdote. It’s the first lesson learned as a road manager in the bigs. I had to carry a road bank in cash. It was real and it was spectacular and used daily for unforeseen, emergencies, gratuities, etc. In fact, it’s primary function had me peeling off benjamins for the IATSE and Teamster straw bosses in every major town in North America. Those crews were well paid, but it was either that or the worst flouting of work to rule anyone’s ever seen. You’re up against a tight schedule, they know it and out comes the hand. A prime example of the efficacy of carrot over stick.

    I’m not suggesting the officials are bent. I am suggesting a long slide into the murk of lower standards. Entropic, but seemingly preferable to calling every infraction to the letter. I suspect that would also fuck the game up as it’s currently played for the foreseeable future. Those damn scales. Always unbalanced.

  141. Bulging Twine says:

    I wonder if Getlzlaf started a course of steroids in March or is on some type of drug.
    He seems to have a sense of grandiose superiority.
    grabbing and scolding Sekera,
    Slashing Lucic’s leg and highly confidently beaking him off.
    Lecturing authority (ref’s).
    showing increased signs of aggression- smearing RNH head into boards,
    Lack of fear- slashing big man Lucic,
    beard growth, hair loss

    (half joking)

    It is clear Getzlaf is very highly confident right now in his strength. He seems to feel like the strongest guy out there, unafraid of any payback to his aggressive actions.

  142. Dustylegnd says:

    Bulging Twine,

    As long as this series and the games played in the series remain close… he has nothing to worry about re payback….betting if the oilers lead big with 10 to go in the 3rd period you will see a rapid behaviour modification by Getzlaf….dudes been bald since 22 so thats nothing new….it is the new NHL….self policing is long gone.

  143. Jethro Tull says:

    Melvis,

    You know which sport has excellent referees? Rugby Union. If you ever catch a game, the respect the players have for them is unreal. By having the utmost professional standards, and adhering to the rules, they engender respect, even if they are not liked. A rake or gouge in one scrum will be called irrespective of experience of player or team. If the guy keeps ‘Kesler-ing’, the ref pulls the captain aside and (I’ve seen it countless times) says “tell number X that I’ve noticed what he’s doing and the next time he does it, he’s in the sin bin.” If player X does it again, the refs are true to their word. They rarely talk to the player unless it’s to tell them game business as in “play on” or to make a disciplinary call.

    By being above reproach, it kills all speculation of favouritism and such, because i went on some Ducks sites today, and they feel the refs were hugely biased towards us, that we’re whiners and we roughed Getzlaf and Kesler last night. Call the rules, refs, and call them consistently and without bias and 99% of criticism will float away.

  144. wheatnoil says:

    Chachi: In the same vein a lot of these folks (smart men and women all) have spent the last 15 hours or so mocking many people for how they celebrated the Oilers’ win after spending much of the season complaining about how people have been trying to tell them how to enjoy hockey.

    I think some of that is feeling it’s not very nice for large numbers of people to tweet at Taylor Hall & chirp him because Adam Larson scored the game winner. There’s enjoying hockey and there’s just not not being nice.

  145. Stelio Kontos says:

    I think Connor has the flu, as it seems that was what Klef had. Is it just me, or does it seem like NHL players get the flu way more often than the general public?

  146. Stelio Kontos says:

    wheatnoil: I think some of that is feeling it’s not very nice for large numbers of people to tweet at Taylor Hall & chirp him because Adam Larson scored the game winner. There’s enjoying hockey and there’s just not not being nice.

    I’d love to have Taylor Hall on as a guest analyst.

  147. frjohnk says:

    Rewatched the last 8 seconds of the game. http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/04/27/video-getzlaf-perry-kesler-lose-cool-in-scuffle-with-kassian-oilers/

    Love Kassian, I will say that Kesler is lucky that Kassian did not get free reign by the linesmen.

    Getzlaf started the sequence with Sekera. Props to Sekera for standing up for himself and giving it back to Getzlaf, but man, Sekera is lucky Getzlaf didnt lose his shit on him. Getzlaf would have destroyed him. But then one of the big boys would have went after Getzlaf the next game.

    Not that I think Benning played a bad game but I wonder if Gryba gets into the next game.

  148. Melvis says:

    Jethro Tull,

    I’ll buy that.

  149. delooper says:

    Jethro Tull:
    Melvis,
    By being above reproach, it kills all speculation of favouritism and such, because i went on some Ducks sites today, and they feel the refs were hugely biased towards us, that we’re whiners and we roughed Getzlaf and Kesler last night.Call the rules, refs, and call them consistently and without bias and 99% of criticism will float away.

    It would be nice if the NHL would come clean and explain to the audience precisely when each penalty type should be called — and also be clear on what the repercussions are for blown calls, perhaps even providing stats on “false positives” and “missed” calls.

    There are some calls that are very reliable in the NHL, like offsides, and icing.

    But things like boarding, hooking, obstruction, delay of game, those penalty calls have a weird and ever-changing deviation from the rulebook. I shrug when they’re called, I shrug when they’re not called. There appears to be little reason (in my eyes) why some blatant penalties are missed, while other times there’s calls which seem pretty marginal.

  150. Chachi says:

    wheatnoil: I think some of that is feeling it’s not very nice for large numbers of people to tweet at Taylor Hall & chirp him because Adam Larson scored the game winner. There’s enjoying hockey and there’s just not not being nice.

    I agree, it is not nice. I also think Taylor Hall is a big boy and does not need a bunch of hypocrites attacking stupid people on the internet for him.

    If I was Hall I would be somewhere that the NHL playoffs are unavailable to be easily viewed (so anywhere in the U.S.) knee deep in whatever sexual depravity floats the boat he can’t get a license to captain. I would give no shits about what Mark Spector and the goons who think like him write about me.

  151. Diablo says:

    Melvis:

    I’m not suggesting the officials are bent. I am suggesting a long slide into the murk of lower standards. Entropic, but seemingly preferable to calling every infraction to the letter. I suspect that would also fuck the game up as it’s currently played for the foreseeable future. Those damn scales. Always unbalanced.

    I remember after the last lockout, the NHL, its players and the refs decided to adhere to calling the rules by the book – there was a slew of penalties during the early regular season, and scoring went up. Players adjusted and there were less infractions occurring and being called by late season. My memory is fuzzy regarding this, but IIRC the refs started to “let them play” in the playoffs and by the next season we were back to same old crap.

    For a brief shining moment in time, penalties were actually called by the letter of the rule book – by my estimation that means the referees will call the game any way the NHL wants them to. But somewhere along the way the NHL, its players and referees decided that the brand of hockey that came out of that was not to their liking. Obviously the teams with less skill caved and demanded a return to the old ways – bad and mediocre teams outnumber the good teams, and the majority won.

    Bettman is an idiot.

  152. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Chachi: He sure as hell should not be involved in hockey in any way now, but point taken.

    Allan Eagleson? The first member of a sports hall of fame to resign. Jail time…

  153. Side says:

    Stelio Kontos:
    or does it seem like NHL players get the flu way more often than the general public?

    For sure.

    NHL players are exposed to germs far more than the general public. NHL players are travelling to 30 different cities throughout the year, some cities more frequently than others which means players are constantly going through airports, constantly staying in different hotels, constantly going out to restaurants, sharing training facilities with multiple people and the players travel in a large, tight group. So if one person gets the flu, there’s a good chance that everyone else will get it as well.

    Compared to the general public who typically wakes up in their own home, goes to work, sits at their own desk, goes home, makes dinner in their own home, goes to sleep, rinse repeat.

    Obviously, athletes have stronger immune systems and have people around that help them avoid contact with germs but, still, they are exposed to a lot of crap.

  154. Chachi says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: Allan Eagleson?The first member of a sports hall of fame to resign.Jail time…

    He was awful, but he did piss off the Russians in ’72! Also not involved in hockey now.

  155. Bulging Twine says:

    Getzlaf the bully

    I find that if you bully the bully, the bully backs down.

    That is what Chicago found with Backes. Backes would bully, but if Toews and others bullied Backes first, Backes wouldn’t bully.

  156. delooper says:

    About 10 years ago I travelled about a third as much as NHL players and I was catching quite a lot of colds. Airports, airplanes and restaurants are all bad news for colds.

  157. delooper says:

    I’ve wondered if airlines shouldn’t go for a different model. Put people to sleep in tubes, each sealed and with its own air supply. So you’re asleep for your commute. You pose no threat to the airplanes. You don’t catch a cold or have to deal with the stupidity of airport security. The airlines can stack people like firewood and get far more people into a plane. It’s win-win, in a sense. . .

  158. Spengler says:

    Jethro Tull,

    Rugby Union referees are awesome. I made this exact point in a long conversation with Android during game 2 or 3. Finest referees in the world. And they explain what they’re seeing, give warnings, and follow up.

  159. Diablo says:

    delooper:
    I’ve wondered if airlines shouldn’t go for a different model.Put people to sleep in tubes, each sealed and with its own air supply.So you’re asleep for your commute.You pose no threat to the airplanes.You don’t catch a cold or have to deal with the stupidity of airport security.The airlines can stack people like firewood and get far more people into a plane.It’s win-win, in a sense. . .

    Lol like the in the 5th Element.
    And if they overbooked the flight, then it would be much easier to drag a person off the plane!

  160. treevojo says:

    Chachi:
    The Hall bashing is stupid, although in Spector’s case that article is actually pretty tame coming from him. What is also stupid is the Larsson bashing that has gone on all year. We’ve heard that he’s a #4 d-man, he can’t make a pass, he’s a “passenger” etc. It’s all bullshit and it’s all a waste of time, but it isn’t taking away my enjoyment of the Oilers’ run in these playoffs which I hope will continue for quite a while longer. Fuck the Ducks! Goilers!

    I find the similarities between the Hall/Larsson and Subban/Weber trades quite funny.

    I would say it was an easy majority critical of both Edmonton and Montreal with regards to trades.

    For most of the season the smaller contingent of Weber supporting media were out in full force rubbing it in critics faces. One great playoff game by Subban and the original critics of Weber are lashing back with their stories.

    For those of us who take a wait and see approach the whole thing is hilarious.

    Egos are a funny thing.

  161. Chachi says:

    treevojo: I find the similarities between the Hall/Larsson and Subban/Weber trades quite funny.

    I would say it was an easy majority critical of both Edmonton and Montreal with regards to trades.

    For most of the season the smaller contingent of Weber supporting media were out in full force rubbing it in critics faces. One great playoff game by Subban and the original critics of Weber are lashing back with their stories.

    For those of us who take a wait and see approach the whole thing is hilarious.

    Egos are a funny thing.

    I find the whole “they’re wrong and being mean so I can be mean back to them even though I spent a year whining about them being mean” bemusing.

  162. Caller Zen says:

    frjohnk:
    Rewatched the last 8 seconds of the game. http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/04/27/video-getzlaf-perry-kesler-lose-cool-in-scuffle-with-kassian-oilers/

    By the end of this series I can see Kesler getting a beat down by someone on the Oilers. The guy is not nearly as tough as he puts on. This year he fought Jeff Carter, 37 year old Vern Fiddler and was TKO’d by little Max Domi. My bet is Kassian will gladly go toe to toe with his ex-Canuck teammate. In the meantime, I’ll just watch this clip on repeat – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjy4fCnJf6c

  163. TheRage says:

    Ducey,

    Ducey: He is a journalist who gets paid by the story. If he wants to keep getting paid, he needs web hits on his stories. Controversy invites hits.

    Its not that complicated.

    If you don’t want him around, stop reading his stuff.

    I doubt there’s a huge demand for Eakins articles. And if there is, it’s worth discussing,

  164. delooper says:

    Diablo: Lol like the in the 5th Element.

    Provided ticket prices are significantly lower I imagine it would catch on. But if the ticket prices are comparable, people would be thinking more about movies like Alien. . .

  165. treevojo says:

    TheRage:
    Ducey,

    I doubt there’s a huge demand for Eakins articles. And if there is, it’s worth discussing,

    I enjoy reading Eakins articles.

    I guess I am odd.

  166. TheRage says:

    Stelio Kontos:
    I think Connor has the flu, as it seems that was what Klef had. Is it just me, or does it seem like NHL players get the flu way more often than the general public?

    We likely just not notice it more, but it’s possible being in close confines, sweating and sharing water, increases the likelihood of infectious spread.

  167. Diesel says:

    I would play for an all-Lowetide team 🙂

  168. dustrock says:

    People comparing Larsson to Vlasic.

    Vlasic is 30. Larsson is 6 years away from that.

    And as a long-time Sharks fan, I can tell you it’s only been in the last 3-4 years that Vlasic has truly shown himself to be Ultimate Defensive Top Pairing Lad.

    I don’t think comparing Larsson and Vlasic at age 24 is fruitless at all. And Vlasic got to play with much better players than Larsson (up until this year).

  169. jzed says:

    Getsalaugh will get his punishment in good time, ignore his after whistle bullshit and play him hard. Lucic can revisit their game 1 conversation later during the game we eliminate his team from the playoffs. Screw the Dicks! Go Oilers!

  170. Truth says:

    Re Reffing: I think the refs came out with the intention of calling off-setting minors early in the game hoping it sets the tone for the series. Keslers trip was an easy call to appease everyone saying McDavid isn’t drawing the calls he should, and Draisaitl’s was simply fabricated to meet the ref’s initial intentions. They’ll do the same in game two, but hopefully both will be more legitimate.

    Re McDavid: I don’t know if there is anything wrong with him at all. He’s smart enough to know the Duck’s (and everyone’s) gameplan is based around him. They expect the speed and the rush through the neutral zone, so he sits back and breaks out with the team, not way ahead of them. The Anaheim D has already abandoned their gap control in order to respect McDavid’s speed, so it’s an easy entry for the line.

    Also, playing your two best players on the same line when the team focuses solely on one of them is a blessing. McDavid can draw defenders out of the play or where he wants them to open up the ice for Draisaitl. In Lacrosse, if a D decides to play a strict man defense the play is to give the ball to your best player and everyone else clear out of the way. Your best player has to beat his one man and he’s in the clear. Surprisingly, it works the first couple times you do it if the D is strict enough on their coverage. Even if you don’t score in your opportunities you end up relaxing the coverage as the D is forced to adapt or continue to get burned.

    Re Hall / Larsson: Oilers lost the trade. Larsson is a very good player. Oilers are way better than they were last year due to a large number of factors, leave Hall out of it.

  171. Zelepukin says:

    I believe we’re seeing the evolution of our very own Seabrook-Keith pairing. Those two were 25-26 when they won their first cup in 2010. All Larsson-Klef need is notoriety and experience built from playoffs and increased responsibilities. I believe they have the skills to reach that level.

  172. spoiler says:

    speeds:
    I don’t think the Oilers had a particularly great game, but winning without McDavid or Talbot having great games is also probably a good sign?

    I didn’t think they did either. That bobble by Talbot has me wondering if he was also afflicted by the bug. That said, we don’t know how injured or sick the Ducks truly are. Was not a great hockey game, but I think the ice was a bit better than San Jokey’s.

    ******

    I had to do the quiz last night (lol, lightning fast, done by start of 2nd period), but accordingly I read the comment thread after the game was over and it was somewhat amusing to read the vitriol here for the Oiler players prior to the first Letestu marker from fans of the team.

    Hot-take hate seems to have become a thing in our socially-connected strive-for-attention world.

    And then people backed off the players a bit when they heard about the flu and other things. People are strangely unforgiving while being in possession of very little info or context. We’re supposed to be supporters. Some benefit of the doubt is apropos.

    And my impression of the Spector article was that it was more of a shot at advanced stats than it was the trade. We want to read everything after a win. I’ve hated Spector since his first Gateway article in 1984, and I still went there. But the only way to do him in is to ignore him.

  173. wheatnoil says:

    dustrock:
    People comparing Larsson to Vlasic.

    Vlasic is 30.Larsson is 6 years away from that.

    And as a long-time Sharks fan, I can tell you it’s only been in the last 3-4 years that Vlasic has truly shown himself to be Ultimate Defensive Top Pairing Lad.

    I don’t think comparing Larsson and Vlasic at age 24 is fruitless at all.And Vlasic got to play with much better players than Larsson (up until this year).

    I’d have to look closer at Vlasic’s career arc. My initial view is that he was carrying a fairly heavy load awfully early in his career. I mean, he’s consistently played Top 4 minutes in the NHL since his 19 year old rookie season (draft+2) and spent no time in the minors.

    That said, he didn’t get Norris votes until his 26 year old season, though getting Norris votes doesn’t mean he wasn’t an elite defender before then… that’s just when people started NOTICING he was an elite defender.

    It would be an interesting question to look closer in to.

    Vlasic did play with Boyle in his 24 year old season, so that’s pretty good quality of teammate. But Greene is no slouch… I’ve been quite high on him… and of course, Klefbom is Dreamy.

  174. treevojo says:

    Truth:
    Re Reffing: I think the refs came out with the intention of calling off-setting minors early in the game hoping it sets the tone for the series.Keslers trip was an easy call to appease everyone saying McDavid isn’t drawing the calls he should, and Draisaitl’s was simply fabricated to meet the ref’s initial intentions.They’ll do the same in game two, but hopefully both will be more legitimate.

    Re McDavid: I don’t know if there is anything wrong with him at all.He’s smart enough to know the Duck’s (and everyone’s) gameplan is based around him.They expect the speed and the rush through the neutral zone, so he sits back and breaks out with the team, not way ahead of them.The Anaheim D has already abandoned their gap control in order to respect McDavid’s speed, so it’s an easy entry for the line.

    Also, playing your two best players on the same line when the team focuses solely on one of them is a blessing.McDavid can draw defenders out of the play or where he wants them to open up the ice for Draisaitl. In Lacrosse, if a D decides to play a strict man defense the play is to give the ball to your best player and everyone else clear out of the way.Your best player has to beat his one man and he’s in the clear.Surprisingly, it works the first couple times you do it if the D is strict enough on their coverage. Even if you don’t score in your opportunities you end up relaxing the coverage as the D is forced to adapt or continue to get burned.

    Re Hall / Larsson:Oilers lost the trade. Larsson is a very good player. Oilers are way better than they were last year due to a large number of factors, leave Hall out of it.

    I agree with everything you wrote about mcdavid.

    I think he is pulling their best defensive players out of position opening things up for the other stone cold killer.

    Oilers in 5

  175. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Ben:
    Drai. Crazy smart. I would’ve shit my pants five times while he was Pied Pipering five Ducks down to the goal line on the first Larsson goal.

    I also applaud Spencer’s patience. Momma didn’t raise no…uh…

    McDavid driving the centre lane was also a big part of that, as was a shitty Ducks line change. Opened a hole down the middle big enough for an 18-wheeler from Larsson Trucking to drive through. Wonderful goal.

  176. Soup Fascist says:

    Open Letter to Dana White:

    If you could possibly set up a Zack Kassian vs Ryan Kesler prelim at UFC 2016, I would pay $5000 for a seat (does not have to be ringside).

    That is all.

  177. Soup Fascist says:

    Diesel:
    I would play for an all-Lowetide team

    Could you please include Corsi rel on your application? As well, please note line combinations will be posted pre game on the dressing room door in the preferred C-L-R format.

  178. OF17 says:

    Vlasic is Larsson’s outer marker IMO. That’s what he becomes if everything goes right and he takes steps forward every year. He’s entirely capable of that with his combination of skating, passing, physicality, and generally intelligent play. If he doesn’t, I won’t be upset, since I’m pretty damn happy with what we already have. Of course Larsson will only be 24 when training camp starts next season, so some improvement is likely, but his high value isn’t contingent upon getting better. He’s already very valuable.

    He’s one of the few members of that group of shutdown D that can nonetheless play a nuanced transition game. Vlasic is of course one, along with Tanev and Hamonic. McDonaugh was and may still be. Niklas Hjalmarsson is. There aren’t many, and every team that has one is happy for the privilege. These playoffs have been a great illustration why.

  179. dustrock says:

    Other thing is Larsson went through coaches a bunch too.

    Maybe better quality coaches overall, but he was bounced around NJ as well.

  180. Thorin says:

    Diablo: Yeah, Lucic made a few mistakes in the game but his positioning in the D-zone was absolutely perfect on that shift – with the puck against the wall and 2 Oilers there already, he did not abandon his position to join in the scrum. It would have been easy too in the anxiety of the moment, but his attention to that small detail paid off handsomely with the EN goal.

    Yup, he held his position. But I was actually talking more about how they were clearly thinking, while they had the puck on their stick, about making sure not to cause that rush up-ice to turn into a 5 on 3 going the other way. Maybe “defensive responsibility” wasn’t the right words, maybe “minimization of possible negative outcome” was what I should have said. In years past, Oilers forwards would have tried to score that goal from inside their own blueline, a much riskier play to make than what Lucic and Draisaitl did.

  181. Scungilli Slushy says:

    I’m not a fan of the term shutdown defender. I think it leads to compartmentalized thinking. Hockey is fluid and at evens all skaters participate in all zones. The difference in players is in hockey skills ( skating, IQ, puck skills and commitment) and what they are being asked to do for the team.

    Larson is a five tool player that ‘could’ be more offensive. He had very highly considered skills on draft day and ended up on a team averse to offense and they ground him into a defense first type. If he was faster he would be better at offense for sure.

    But under McLellan he has not only nailed taking on the yoemans workload for the team, but he has been adding in joining the offense and would have had 5 or 6 more goals if not for some puck luck and iron.

    Sure there are players who score more, but how many are stone cold D zone killers like Larsson? Not many, and those guys are the elite. So maybe Larsson isn’t elite, but he’s up there. Those that only defend you could call shut down or ‘defensive defensemen, but really they lack hockey skills so play one dimensionally, like ‘offensive’ forwards.

    I’m happy that Chiarelli seems to like full game players, the Oilers D has currently 6 guys that do it all, different levels of ability and experience.

  182. HT Joe says:

    season not played: motivation

    Thanks for clearing up your motivation for bringing up Taylor Hall the day after a playoff win, which singlehandedly derailed what could have been a nice thread. Real nice.

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