THRASHER

The Edmonton Oilers had issues early, got down by three, and then found a way to come all the way back. Then the young team continued to make poor decisions and gave up another field goal. The club’s goalie, brilliant all season, with rare wobble, perhaps delivered less than his best. Oh, Sunday night, why have you forsaken us? It wasn’t all bad, the McDavid goal might be the best all playoffs, but it was a disappointing result all the same.

  • “Not enough.” -Todd McLellan’s response to Ryan Rishaug’s question about Jordan Eberle and what he was bringing. Source

THE WHO, BY NUMBERS

  • First 20: 3-1 ANA, 10-9 ANA shots, 15-12 EDM Corgi 5×5.
  • Second 20: 2-1 EDM, 15-6 EDM shots, 17-10 EDM Corgi 5×5.
  • Final 30: 2-0 ANA, 11-5 ANAshots, 15-12 Corsi for EDM.
  • Final 6-3 ANA, 28-27 ANA shots, Corsi for 5×5 edge overall 47-34 EDM.

The numbers suggest an even game, but we know from experience that single moments can have enormous importance while also being single moments. Sekera doing a poor job of playing safety, Larsson losing a goalmouth battle, Nurse’s poor set-play pass, it’s 3-0 and you knew that was all she wrote.

You know what? It wasn’t over, and this resilient team came all the way back. That’s a fantastic moment for the team. Very disappointing to see it go away in the back half of the game, but this team comes to work and that’s a good sign. Now, about that execution.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Sekera-Russell went 20-13 in 14:55 together, including 15-2 with the Nuge. Lordy. Russell had two assists, and the pairing did have some good moments. However, ghastly coverage in the game’s first minutes started the giant ball of ugly rolling. This is a veteran pairing, have to be better. Went 13-7 against Rakell-Getzlaf-Eaves. Russell have three giveaways, a number that stands out even on a porous evening for the blue.
  • Nurse-Benning went 9-8 in 11:09 together, including 5-5 with Connor McDavid. Went 3-4 against Cogliano-Kesler-Silfverberg. The big item for this pairing came from Nurse’s poor decision, and poor pass, that was intercepted and cashed by Getzlaf. That was a painful goal in the scheme of things.
  • Klefbom-Larsson went 11-10 in 14:54 and to my eye were the top pairing. Not to say they were perfect, as Larsson couldn’t get the puck out of the slot on the third GA and Klefbom was in no-man’s land on the fifth goal against. Pairing went 3-8 with Connor McDavid and 3-8 against Cogliano-Kesler-Silfverberg.
  • Cam Talbot stopped 22 of 28, .786. Not good. However, first Oilers fan to complain has to drive the No. 43 bus (milk run) for the rest of the week without taking breaks. Talbot has been golden this year, save for a few performances.

MCDAVID LINE

  • Connor McDavid scored a brilliant goal and had plenty of other chances too. He played a solid game offensively, Edmonton could have had a couple more goals from this line. Played a responsible defensive game until later on, when two GA came against his line. He missed Leon more than we might have expected.
  • Milan Lucic had a tough night, got some looks but didn’t accomplish much. He also sent those errant passes wayward a few times, that isn’t like him. Received a nice pass from 97, many feel McDavid should have shot. If you look at the video, Anaheim’s defender is closing the gap and I believe he made the right call.
  • Jordan Eberle played so well the coach couldn’t contain himself in the post-game. Many people are saying he may get demoted before Wednesday. I think Eberle would not be my primary goat, but he has a one-dimensional game despite plenty of effort this spring. Many people are ripping Eberle this morning, and the coach clearly has frustration. I will tell you the Oilers need him if they are going to get past the Ducks and into the final four.
  • Line went 7-15 against Cogliano-Kesler-Silfverberg, 3-8 against Lindholm.

NUGE LINE

  • Big night for this trio, they owned possession. I swear Nuge has a hatty in his future.
  • Todd McLellan switched up lines (Maroon and Leon moving to the 2line) and it worked very well. RNH was 18-4 against Getzlaf. Music!
  • I thought for sure 93 would get an assist on the Maroon goal.
  • Leon had an assist and damned near a goal on the power play, I liked his game.
  • Maroon scored another Maroon goal, the man has the touch this season. Less impressive was his costly penalty.
  • I would like to see this line again.

DESHARNAIS LINE

  • This line did well last night, although you are going to hear about a dumb penalty by Pouliot. It was dumb, but had no impact on the final result. He was solid otherwise, and the line overall did well. If you’re going to rail on Pouliot, please be smart about it and bring up his poor bat this season.
  • Slepyshev continues to make himself offensively useful. He is pushing for a regular job in the fall, bet he gets it. Could he be on McDavid’s line Wednesday?
  • Desharnais went 6-4 against Perry’s line. I think people are underrating this line.

LETESTU LINE

  • Letestu was solid in the faceoff circle and had some looks, but it was not worth of a bullet point on the resume.
  • Caggiula played the kind of game that can be expected from rookies, good moments followed by moments where awareness is not what it will be. Edmonton has a pile of these guys in the lineup, I would encourage patience for anyone under 22 and playing in their first playoff spring.
  • Kassian couldn’t find a dance partner, and the hockey didn’t break his way. Quiet evening, but he didn’t make any massive errors that I saw either.
  • Trio went 3-1 against Shaw-Thompson-Wagner.

LET’S REVIEW

One of the surprises for me last night was the amount of upset from Oilers fans. It tells me that we may be getting ahead of ourselves a little here. So, allow me to make a statement and get your reaction to it.

  • The Edmonton Oilers could lose the next three games by shutout and it would still represent a mammoth season in franchise history.

Let’s review. Before the beginning of the season, we knew Connor McDavid was special, but the actual season he delivered was truly awesome. Leon Draisaitl blossomed alongside, the right side of the defense was improved and Cam Talbot established himself as one of the 10 best goalies in the NHL. Youngsters pushing included Matt Benning, Drake Caggiula and Anton Slepyshev, plus the team passed 100 points for the season. Connor McDavid won the first major award for this franchise since 1990. Oh, and by the way, they won their first playoff series since 2006 and have a 2-1 lead in the quarter-finals. Take a breath, erase last night from the etch-a-sketch in your mind, and have a good long look at what this organization has accomplished in one season.

MCLELLAN’S EXPERIENCE

When I was 7, I was badly injured playing in our back yard. I was running and jumping to catch a ball and my head hit a trailer hitch. Blood everywhere (only time I was a redhead) and my brother’s reaction (genuine concern) frightened me more than the blood. I probably would have panicked or passed out, but my Dad slowly walked over, calmly told me to sit down, and took my mind off of things. He examined the wound (to this day, do not touch the top of my head, I will go a little mad), told my brother to tell Mom to bring the car around to the front. He helped me to the car (I got to ride in the front seat!) and he made sure I was calm the whole way to the hospital. My Mom never did see me, or she would have cried, and then I would have cried. My Dad knew all that from the second he started walking slowly toward me. Experience, reading the moment, addressing it using all of the tools available. (Note: He caught 10 kinds of hell for not telling Mom, just so you know).

Todd McLellan has experience in playoff series and so far has been able to correct issues quickly, allowing this team to recover by next game, by keeping everyone focused on the process. McLellan’s experience. It happened after the 7-0 loss, the Sharks didn’t win a game after that one. Will it happen Wednesday? We wait.

Seattle is on to the WHL Finals, Bear a massive part of the team’s success this season. Can he return in time for the Memorial Cup? I hope so, playing in that tournament is a dream for these young men. Pro hockey awaits Bear in the fall. I have been cheering for him since he was drafted, I had  him as a second-round pick based on numbers and scouting reports. I imagine a re-draft would have him higher, but the key is that he worked hard and has himself in a very good spot entering his entry-level deal.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun, busy morning starts at 10, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Scott Burnside, ESPN. The elite eight are figuring it out, right now a Pittsburgh-Ottawa and Nashville-Edmonton final four is the most likely scenario.
  • Andy McNamara, TSN. NFL draft!
  • Jason Gregor, TSN1260. Oilers lose Game 3, will there be lineup changes?
  • Sunil Agnihotri, Copper & Blue/The SuperFan. What kind of changes should Todd McLellan be contemplating.

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160 Responses to "THRASHER"

  1. JDI Хоккей says:

    Slepy will never play on McDavid’s wing.

    Right Chach?

  2. godot10 says:

    Eberle had the primary assist on the game winning goal in game 2. Many fans and the coach seemed to have forgotten this.

    He is likely no longer part of the “core”, nor part of the McDavid cluster. Thus, his days as an Oiler are probably numbered, but it would be foolish to run him out town (as Spector is trying to incite the mob to demand).

  3. khildahl says:

    Frustrating game. Talbot wasn’t his best, but I felt the Oilers were the better team overall.

    I’d argue the Ducks got 4 goals that shouldn’t have counted, but the day the officiating goes our way is the day I know this has all been a dream.

    Rackell got on the ice for the first goal while Cogliano was still a couple strides from the bench; should have been too many men. Cogliano was literally standing on Talbot for the second goal. Silfverburg was offside based on the standard of officiating that has applied against Zack Kassian all year. Kesler scored three seconds after committing half the infractions in the rulebook behind the net.

  4. godot10 says:

    You can’t blame Nurse for a pass that he is coached to make. His natural instinct would be to carry the puck out. The Ducks played a “zone blitz” against one of McLellan’s standard breakout plays, and dropped a “lineman” into pass coverage, and the defensemen threw through an interception.

    A “safe” play that is predictable isn’t a “safe” play.

  5. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Desharnais went 6-4 against Perry’s line. I think people are underrating this line.

    Truth.

    Score adjusted Fenwick 5v5 for the playoffs.

    I will **** the DD line and xxxx the The Testu line:

    RYAN.NUGENT-HOPKINS 54.0
    OSCAR.KLEFBOM 53.5
    MILAN.LUCIC 52.2
    JORDAN.EBERLE 52.2

    ADAM.LARSSON 49.9
    BENOIT.POULIOT 49.2 ***
    DAVID.DESHARNAIS 49.1 ***
    LEON.DRAISAITL 48.7
    ANTON.SLEPYSHEV 48.4 ***
    PATRICK.MAROON 48.2
    KRIS.RUSSELL 45.2
    MATT.BENNING 44.9
    CONNOR.MCDAVID 44.4
    ANDREJ.SEKERA 43.9
    DARNELL.NURSE 43.8
    DRAKE.CAGGIULA 41.1xxxx
    MARK.LETESTU 40.3xxxx

    ZACK.KASSIAN 39.8xxxx

    5v5 Goal share for the playoffs:

    LEON.DRAISAITL 78.8
    MATT.BENNING 74.3
    DAVID.DESHARNAIS 72.4****

    BENOIT.POULIOT 67.2****
    ANTON.SLEPYSHEV 67.2****

    PATRICK.MAROON 56.0
    OSCAR.KLEFBOM 54.5

    CONNOR.MCDAVID 49.2
    DARNELL.NURSE 48.2
    DRAKE.CAGGIULA 43.8xxxx
    ADAM.LARSSON 43.5
    ZACK.KASSIAN 42.5xxxx

    KRIS.RUSSELL 39.9
    ANDREJ.SEKERA 36.4
    RYAN.NUGENT-HOPKINS 34.8

    MILAN.LUCIC 18.3
    JORDAN.EBERLE 18.3

    MARK.LETESTU 0.0xxxx

    5v5 TOI for the playoffs

    Player TOI
    ADAM.LARSSON 163.09
    KRIS.RUSSELL 147.29
    OSCAR.KLEFBOM 145.11
    ANDREJ.SEKERA 144.22
    CONNOR.MCDAVID 136.57
    DARNELL.NURSE 134.81
    LEON.DRAISAITL 129.96
    PATRICK.MAROON 123.87
    MILAN.LUCIC 114.79
    RYAN.NUGENT-HOPKINS 112.69
    JORDAN.EBERLE 111.03
    MATT.BENNING 110.45
    ZACK.KASSIAN 107.53xxxxx
    DRAKE.CAGGIULA 107.47xxxxx
    MARK.LETESTU 100.38xxxxx
    DAVID.DESHARNAIS 79.75*****
    BENOIT.POULIOT 79.73*****
    ANTON.SLEPYSHEV 78.67*****

    I don’t think the QoC is much different from 55’s line to 13. A hair maybe, but their results are galaxies away.

    This thread will be full of adjustment suggestions for McLellan.

    I thing the most important one is : Play your players that are going more and the players who are not going less.

    Last nights’s 5v5 TOI:

    Adam Larsson 17:58
    Kris Russell 17:33
    Andrej Sekera 17:09
    Oscar Klefbom 17:09
    Connor McDavid 14:24
    Leon Draisaitl 13:55
    Patrick Maroon 13:36
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 13:18
    Darnell Nurse 13:01
    Jordan Eberle 12:36
    Milan Lucic 12:33
    Matthew Benning 12:06
    Anton Slepyshev 10:52*****
    David Desharnais 10:37*****
    Benoit Pouliot 10:07*****
    Drake Caggiula 9:43xxxxx
    Zack Kassian 9:34xxxxx
    Mark Letestu 9:31xxxxx

    I’d suggest taking about 3-4 minutes from the 55 line and adding it to the lines above.

    Double shift 97 w/ 67-42 once a period as well (if the lines stay intact)

    36-55-44 are not helping the cause right now and the players who are playing better should be playing more.

  6. Whatif says:

    I must agree wholeheartedly with LT this morning.

    The sky is not falling.

    The Oilers are a resilient bunch and I look forward to seeing what this next game looks like.

    I am still thrilled with where they are and what they have accomplished to date.

  7. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    godot10:
    You can’t blame Nurse for a pass that he is coached to make.His natural instinct would be to carry the puck out. The Ducks played a “zone blitz” against one of McLellan’s standard breakout plays, and dropped a “lineman” into pass coverage, and the defensemen threw through an interception.

    A “safe” play that is predictable isn’t a “safe” play.

    He isn’t coached to only make one decision.

    He has at least 3 options on that set break out.

    His decision making, including the speed of his decision making needs to improve dramatically.

  8. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    godot10,

    There is a behind the net replay available and it showed Nurse lookup, look around, put head down and then rim it. The whole time Getzlaf was two feet from the boards inside the line.

    He may be coached to make that play but if you run that exact sequence 99 more times I bet Nurse steps out and makes a pass or skates it (or at least steps out and goes off the glass) 99 of those times, because he is also coached to read and react.

    Rookies gonna rook and last night Darnell didn’t make a smart play there, no need to try and blame the coaches.

    All that said I completely agree with your Eberle commentary. Spector is such a schmuck that way, its too bad that he continues but unlike this Oilers team I highly highly doubt he’ll ever learn from past performance./

  9. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    5v5 goal share:
    MILAN.LUCIC 18.3
    JORDAN.EBERLE 18.3

    The scoring black hole that dominated the season has come back with a vengence

    Instead of changing up centers, maybe get these two away from each other again.

  10. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – Great post LT! As the Father of a 7-year old boy: your story is very close to home: beautiful

    – I was alone here in saying it was a trap game yesterday. Some things in sport are predictable. Just as 7 years olds getting injured as they expand their horizon’s. It’s part of growing up

    – I can’t compete with your prose but your story reminded me: this winter my 7 year old had a fall on a ski hill: they called it a “yard sale” He did two summersaults in the air: skis poles, gloves all over the place. Bloody chin and nose, wind knocked out: kid was in shock a little. The ski patrol called me (he was taking a lesson with other kids). They took him on the back of the ski-doo, into the ski-patrol hut: gave him hot chocolate, band-aides.

    – When I came in to see him: I walked up and gave him a high-5. Instructor picked up on it right away. Son says: “why did you give me a high-5 daddy?” Instructor tells him: “well because only cool kids get to have bandaides, and take ski-doo rides”

    – Son says: “well ok, but I don’t want to have a crash like that again”

    – Turns out my son was getting cocky in his ski group, and thinking he was better than he was, and took more risks.

    – Instructor made sure he went back on the Hill the next day, and his skiing kept on improving

    – I figured that game was a similar analogy: it’s a challenge when your young team, up 2-0 coming home, to not feel cocky. They weren’t prepared in that first period. They were happy to be up 2-0.

    – but getting back to tie game tells them that if they want it, they are the better the team. That and some luck and being up 2-1: they learned a lesson and should be good to go.

  11. godot10 says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    godot10,

    There is a behind the net replay available and it showed Nurse lookup, look around, put head down and then rim it. The whole time Getzlaf was two feet from the boards inside the line.

    The “zone blitz” works because you put a lineman/linebacker where the quarterback doesn’t expect him to be based on tendencies of the offense. Nurse didn’t see Getzlaf, because if you practice that rim play over and over one doesn’t expect the Duck to be there, so one doesn’t “see” him. None of the Oiler forwards warned Nurse either. They just ran their normal “routes”. None of them adjusted to Getzlaf either.

    Good teams in the NFL run sight adjustments when the defense is not what was expected. None of the forwards ran route adjustments to signal to Nurse that Anaheim was “ON” to the rim pass.

    Anaheim has scouted the OIlers tendencies on the rim pass.

  12. Yeti says:

    WOODGUY V2.0

    I will **** the DD line and xxxx the The Testu line:

    For a brief moment there I thought you were getting rather kinky for this early an hour.

  13. Dino says:

    Goal 1: Oilers asleep. Cogs goes for a change, Rakell steps out behind defence, stretch pass finds him, clear cut breakaway. Goal. But also why is the 3rd line out against Kesler and Getzlaf? Anyways, Sekera and Russell need to be more aware there.

    Goal 2: Leon can’t get the puck out from the boards, Mcdavid does a fly by at the point, an unimpeded Lindholm with a clear shot path to the net, Larsson can’t clear bouncing rebound in crease, goal.

    Goal 3: Nurse does my biggest pet peeve of a breakout. I hope this makes Mclellan remove that play from him books entirely. Ugly play, Goal.

    Up to this point none of these are Talbot’s fault really. Not much of a chance on any of these.

    Goal 4: TALBOT TALBOT TALBOT TALBOT TALBOT TALBOT. 47 seconds after the boys finally tie it up he goes out to blocker aside a shot going wide and that’s the worst goal he’s given up since game 3 of the regular season.

    Goal 5: OFFSIDE.

    Goal 6: Eberle cannot get it out from the boards (sound familiar)? Silverberg literally takes the puck away from him with little struggle. Like taking candy from a baby. Takes an unimpeded shot and nobody is checking Kesler or his stick in front of the net. Goal.

    All 5 goals extremely annoying. But the hopeful sign is all 5 are big gaffes by the Oilers that they usually don’t make. And Talbot probably makes 2 extra saves. Off night, had to expect a loss eventually but I think we see a much better team come Wednesday.

  14. Jethro Tull says:

    It points to this team’s inexperience, with these wobbles every three games or so. TMac said it himself, Anaheim didn’t lose three in a row all season (he may need to check his facts, like me! May or may not be true), but the essence of his point is that teams like Anaheim don’t need this little reset every 4th game or so.

    It points to great things to come that this team is so resilient and refuses to give up. Gibson is good, not great. That Anaheim D is good, not great. Their forwards are good and big and extremely well coached and calm. And emm-effing dirty. The Kesler hold on McDavid summed the series up perfectly; why pin McDavid legally against the boards when you can hold him by the fore arm in front of the ref? Ay Carumba!

  15. Jethro Tull says:

    Woodguy v2.0: He isn’t coached to only make one decision.

    He has at least 3 options on that set break out.

    His decision making, including the speed of his decision making needs to improve dramatically.

    Inexperienced Dmen are going to make plays like that; that wasn’t just any scrub he threw that too either. Nurse didn’t have the gumption to look up quickly and realise who he, as a young 3rd pairing D, was on the ice against, which would have eliminated two out of the possible three options. The nice draw weight with no icing to the other end would have been the best play. Getzlaf on the other hand knew exactly who he was up against.

    Vatanen made the same poor choices against McDavid on a couple of plays, one turned into a goal and the other should have been a goal.

  16. Seismic Source says:

    Need him?…Barely seen ’em.

    Eberle has been slowly punching his ticket out of town all year and it’s just getting highlighted more during the playoffs. He is turning into Matt Moulson. My priority would be to get his 6m off the books and then worry about his replacement. Might have a few in house already.

    His no chemistry with McDavid creates so many lineup problems and handcuffed Todd all year.
    I’m not hoping he has a higher gear as much as I’m worried he has an even lower one.

    I hope every time someone places an Eberle jersey on the counter at the Oilers store, the guy working the register says, “Are you sure you want to do that?”

  17. CrazyCoach says:

    It was a tale of two hockey teams with the best of times and the worst of times.

    Some fans are fickle, including me at times, but I don’t get the Eberle hate bandwagon. To my eye and the stats, he’s had a pretty decent playoffs, but because of that $6M price tag, fans expect him to score a hat trick every game. He just needs one. Look at Desharnais since he scored. I thought he’s been playing well.

    As you know LT, my eyes gained a new perspective this year, and I would have been more than satisfied for this team to even make the playoffs. All these games now are playing with house money, so let’s sit back and enjoy.

    And once again, I’ve said this numerous times. I am going to enjoy every single minute McDavid wears an Oilers uniform. He won’t play forever and when he’s gone I will not regret one minute of his time as an Oiler, nor take him for granted like I did with Gretzky. Nothing lasts forever and nothing in the future will bring us back to enjoy what we have today, so let’s enjoy it NOW!

  18. Woogie63 says:

    PP2 is not getting it done. We need a new look.

    Slepy-DD-Maroon

    Nurse-RNH

    Should get a look.

  19. druds1 says:

    LT, you always bring us back to earth in the most human way possible. The anthems last night were surreal…mind -expanding….most Americans do not know the words but Hockey fans do…. that game was too hard on the heart valves…the Mcdavid goal followed by that horrible bobble goal well roller coaster ride doesn’t describe it …. all you can do is shake your head and say “Playoffs Baby!”

  20. Side says:

    godot10: The “zone blitz” works because you put a lineman/linebacker where the quarterback doesn’t expect him to be based on tendencies of the offense.Nurse didn’t see Getzlaf, because if you practice that rim play over and over one doesn’t expect the Duck to be there, so one doesn’t “see” him.None of the Oiler forwards warned Nurse either.They just ran their normal “routes”.None of them adjusted to Getzlaf either.

    Good teams in the NFL run sight adjustments when the defense is not what was expected.None of the forwards ran route adjustments to signal to Nurse that Anaheim was “ON” to the rim pass.

    Anaheim has scouted the OIlers tendencies on the rim pass.

    This is an incredible stretch.

    Nurse didn’t see Getzlaf? Nurse was only behind the net with a view of the entire ice and had plenty of options, perhaps he should get his vision checked if this is the case.

    Just because you’re coached a play, it doesn’t mean you ignore common sense and give the opposing team the puck just because they are somewhere you don’t expect.

    You’re fighting pretty hard to keep this “mediocre coach” narrative alive.

  21. CrazyCoach says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: I was alone here in saying it was a trap game yesterday.

    Did you do your Admiral Ackbar impersonation as you said this?

  22. Scungilli Slushy says:

    ” I will tell you the Oilers need him if they are going to get past the Ducks and into the final four.”

    They do need him, they need him to carry more load. Scoring is a part of the job, but winning at least half of your battles and executing the system and plan are the others. Make sure chip ins get to where they are supposed to go. Be on the defensive side of the puck on the boards, these are the ‘details’ McL is referring to. I’m not seeing that enough from Ebs. Lucic is always a force even if he is simply going to the net, so he brings something, and that isn’t an option for most players.

    “but he didn’t make any massive errors that I saw either.”

    He cheated at the blue line again looking for a break I think and both times in different games it ended up in the net.

    They need to focus on the small picture and stop forcing plays. As said I think McLellan and the coaches have the experience to calm the waters, they seem to be supportive and not getting hot after mistakes. Not their first rodeo.

    It’s all gravy. I think there are players playing for their jobs, I hope some of them realize it but haven’t thrown the towel in.

  23. frjohnk says:

    CrazyCoach:
    It was a tale of two hockey teams with the best of times and the worst of times.

    Some fans are fickle, including me at times, but I don’t get the Eberle hate bandwagon.To my eye and the stats, he’s had a pretty decent playoffs, but because of that $6M price tag, fans expect him to score a hat trick every game.He just needs one.Look at Desharnais since he scored.I thought he’s been playing well.

    As you know LT, my eyes gained a new perspective this year, and I would have been more than satisfied for this team to even make the playoffs.All these games now are playing with house money, so let’s sit back and enjoy.

    And once again, I’ve said this numerous times.I am going to enjoy every single minute McDavid wears an Oilers uniform.He won’t play forever and when he’s gone I will not regret one minute of his time as an Oiler, nor take him for granted like I did with Gretzky.Nothing lasts forever and nothing in the future will bring us back to enjoy what we have today, so let’s enjoy it NOW!

    Might have been first round and I said that the Nuge line has to score.

    EBERLE of course is the first guy to get the daggers. Nuge being good defensively and Lucic being tough gives them more rope.

    Defensively they have been the most consistent line all playoffs. EBERLE makes a “weak play” on the boards even though he was passed the puck when there was a guy on him and it eventually ends up in the net.

    Whether they lose this series or the next or whatever, the lack of production from this line will be brought up as one of the failures. Its just the way its going to be.

    27 playoff games between the 3 of them.

    0 even strength goals.

    And you are right about McDavid.

    We need to enjoy it while we can.

  24. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    godot10,

    Nurse didn’t see Getzlaf, because if you practice that rim play over and over one doesn’t expect the Duck to be there

    That makes no sense.

  25. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Jethro Tull: Inexperienced Dmen are going to make plays like that; that wasn’t just any scrub he threw that too either.Nurse didn’t have the gumption to look up quickly and realise who he, as a young 3rd pairing D, was on the ice against, which would have eliminated two out of the possible three options.The nice draw weight with no icing to the other end would have been the best play.Getzlaf on the other hand knew exactly who he was up against.

    Vatanen made the same poor choices against McDavid on a couple of plays, one turned into a goal and the other should have been a goal.

    I’m sure Carlyle would like Vatanen to make better decisions as well.

  26. frjohnk says:

    Just curious about Anaheims forwards in how they changed tactics last night in their break out.

    When they sprint past their own blue line to the neutral zone is that

    -cheating for offense?

    or

    – stretching out the Oilers system with a stretch pass?

    Regardless, I bet we continue to see that, as the Ducks probably feel confident in their faceoff ability that if the “cheating for offense” or “stretch pass” whatever you want to call it, end up in an icing, it wont do much harm if the pass does not work.

  27. Edmonton_fan says:

    Before the game, my wife was excited… She was not pleased when I told her the Oilers were going to lose. When she asked why, I explained we were lucky to be up 2 – 0; Talbot stood on his head to win the previous game. That if he only had an average game, it was all over.

    We are not supposed to be here; everything is a wing & a prayer right now. Can we continue to win? Definitely – we actually came back to tie the game.

    But we are so far ahead of where we are supposed to be, I’m okay with last night’s spanking. And hope the lesson sinks in quickly…

  28. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Woogie63:
    PP2 is not getting it done.We need a new look.

    Slepy-DD-Maroon

    Nurse-RNH

    Should get a look.

    The Oilers have 3 PP goals this series.

    2 at 5v4 and 1 at 5v3.

    5v4
    TOI
    Unit 1 – 12.9min
    Unit 2 – 8.45min

    Shots/60
    Unit 1 – 46.5
    Unit 2 – 49.7

    Goals
    Unit 1 – 1
    Unit 2 – 1

    Goals/60
    Unit 1 – 4.65
    Unit 2 – 7.10

    I’d say that unit 1 isn’t getting it done 5v4, not unit 2.

  29. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    CrazyCoach: Did you do your Admiral Ackbar impersonation as you said this?

    – In my mind I did!

    – A few chimed in I was crazy. then after game over a few said: “well that was predictable!

  30. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    frjohnk:
    Just curious about Anaheims forwards in how they changed tactics last night in their break out.

    When they sprint past their own blue line to the neutral zone is that

    -cheating for offense?

    or

    – stretching out the Oilers system with a stretch pass?

    Regardless, I bet we continue to see that, as the Ducks probably feel confident in their faceoff ability that if the “cheating for offense” or “stretch pass” whatever you want to call it, end up in an icing, it wont do much harm if the pass does not work.

    Its stretching the defence and a sound tactical strategy when the opponents do it.

    Its cheating for offence, shows poor judgement and a lack of commitment to a 200ft game when the Oilers do it.

  31. Woogie63 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: The Oilers have 3 PP goals this series.

    2 at 5v4 and 1 at 5v3.

    5v4
    TOI
    Unit 1 – 12.9min
    Unit 2 – 8.45min

    Shots/60
    Unit 1 – 46.5
    Unit 2 – 49.7

    Goals
    Unit 1 – 1
    Unit 2 – 1

    Goals/60
    Unit 1 – 4.65
    Unit 2 –7.10

    I’d say that unit 1 isn’t getting it done 5v4, not unit 2.

    I agree on PP1 is struggling as well. I think more upside in keeping that unit together.

    Right now 14 and 36 are struggling to score over the last 7 games.

  32. Seismic Source says:

    Whatever it takes to unlock RNH. I’d be willing to try anything beginning with getting him away from the other Austins

  33. Diablo says:

    CrazyCoach:

    Some fans are fickle, including me at times, but I don’t get the Eberle hate bandwagon.To my eye and the stats, he’s had a pretty decent playoffs, but because of that $6M price tag, fans expect him to score a hat trick every game.He just needs one.Look at Desharnais since he scored.I thought he’s been playing well.

    Its not a hate band wagon – just an honest discussion about whether his 6 million dollar cap hit could be spent more efficiently.

    The Oilers are still in transition towards Chia’s model of a team that’s fast up the middle and big and heavy along the wings. Eberle does not fit that mold, so he sticks out as an ill-fitting piece. He’s not paid that much to backcheck – he’s getting paid to score – a right shot, who by virtue of his inability to reliable shoot off his forehand, has been replaced on the PP1 by Letestu.

    He’s put up 2 assists in these playoffs, and he hasn’t generated much in the way of scoring chances either – it’s not just bad luck either – he’s been pretty invisible in the O-zone throughout the playoffs.
    If he was making 3.5 million a season on an expiring contract, he’d be David Desharnais. But with a 6 million dollar contract with several years left in the contract, come big expectations which he’s failing to meet. What he is is what we are seeing – a player who scores more reliably off his backhand, which he needs time and space to set up – things that are in short supply in the playoffs. So the question gets asked – are the Oilers getting enough value for that much cap space?

    With McDavid and Draisaitl about to take up a large part of the Oilers cap, something has to give. Otherwise I’d be all for keeping Eberle and playing him in a lesser role if not for the cap.

  34. Rake 2.0 says:

    Seismic Source:
    Whatever it takes to unlock RNH. I’d be willing to try anything beginning with getting him away from the other Austins

    I’m my opinion he was the best oiler on the ice last night. Just needs something to go in for him. I really liked him with drai and maroon. I don’t think lucic and ebs are the right wingers for him.

  35. John Chambers says:

    Edmonton_fan,

    We are way ahead of expectations and playing with house money, but …

    I loathe the Ducks so much and want the narrative of the season to be that the Oilers surpassed the Canucks and Kings during the regular season, then toppled the other Pacific heavyweights in the playoffs.

    After many seasons of receiving beatdowns from those four clubs I want to at least conquer our division.

  36. russ99 says:

    I don’t get the scapegoating that seems to always go on with our team, win or lose.

    IMO, Eberle has been solid the entire playoffs, and everyone else had a crappy first and third period too. all our players need to be more sure with the puck, some of the early jitters last night treated puck possession as a hot potato. Sometimes you have to make a smart play and take the hit that comes with it.

    As for our Austins:

    Eberle as he gets older, stronger and more mature will be an annual 30 goal scorer, and the effort he’s shown in the playoff makes me think that will be sooner than later. Even at $6M, that’s hard to come by. The lack of chemistry with McDavid is worrisome, but I’d give him until the next deadline on Leon’s line to show what level he can be before thinking about moving him.

    RNH has maxed out at 56 points in an 82 game season, and it seems to me we’re seeing his ceiling in the playoffs, with little scoring. There’s a good chance he’ll never put up more numbers than this, and if we’re just looking at 50-60 points and a two-way game while not being adept at faceoffs, we can do better for less salary.

    But again, I’d be willing to give him another half season if possible to see if there’s improvement after the playoff run and build trade value, but if we can move him and other assets for a better RHD this summer, I can’t see Chiarelli passing on it.

  37. Bruce Wayne says:

    It is embarrassing how easily the Edmonton media lead the fans around by the nose.

    There is no reason that the daggers are out for Eberle while Lucic remains teflon other than ignorance.

    Rishaug’s favourite saying is that when Eberle isn’t scoring he isn’t doing anything, which is a flat out lie.

    By contrast, Lucic is actually doing nothing, even when he picks up points on the power play piggy backing on the work of his betters.

    Lucic is not a good hockey player. He is a mountain of a man who doesn’t do anything particularly well and he doesn’t try particularly hard. He isn’t better than Eberle at creating chances and he isn’t better than Eberle at preventing chances. So what is he better at?

  38. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Woogie63: I agree on PP1 is struggling as well.I think more upside in keeping that unit together.

    Right now 14 and 36 are struggling to score over the last 7 games.

    14 set up the game winning goal in game 2 on the powerplay

  39. Rake 2.0 says:

    russ99:

    RNH has maxed out at 56 points in an 82 game season. There’s a good chance he’ll never put up more numbers than this, and if we’re just looking at 50-60 points and a two-way game, we can do better for less salary.

    You say this. But where are we gonna get a 50-60 point 2 way center that plays top comp for less than 6 mil per. let alone one that is 24 years old. Get nuge better wingers. You can’t expect a guy to play against the other teams best with 2 wingers that aren’t fast enough, and who have never been strong 2 way players.

  40. frjohnk says:

    Bruce Wayne: So what is he better at?

    Lucic has GRITS.

  41. Shane says:

    It seems to me that Nuge isn’t putting himself in good scoring positions. He skates the puck in with speed and wrists a perimeter shot into the goalie or dumps it into the corner for a chase. Is it just me or does he shoot far too soon too often from too far away?

  42. Seismic Source says:

    Woodguy v2.0: 14 set up the game winning goal in game 2 on the powerplay

    In all fairness RNH made that goal happen keeping the puck in. Ebs essentially threw it on net from a weak position. If it didn’t bounce off Maroons skate we’d be wondering what he was trying to do with it. He chucked it.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lOhvYhyzKjM

  43. Side says:

    Bruce Wayne:
    It is embarrassing how easily the Edmonton media lead the fans around by the nose.

    There is no reason that the daggers are out for Eberle while Lucic remains teflon other than ignorance.

    Rishaug’s favourite saying is that when Eberle isn’t scoring he isn’t doing anything, which is a flat out lie.

    By contrast, Lucic is actually doing nothing, even when he picks up points on the power play piggy backing on the work of his betters.

    Lucic is not a good hockey player.He is a mountain of a man who doesn’t do anything particularly well and he doesn’t try particularly hard.He isn’t better than Eberle at creating chances and he isn’t better than Eberle at preventing chances.So what is he better at?

    Of course you come out to comment after a loss.

  44. frjohnk says:

    Shane:
    It seems to me that Nuge isn’t putting himself in good scoring positions. He skates the puck in with speed and wrists a perimeter shot into the goalie or dumps it into the corner for a chase. Is it just me or does he shoot far too soon too often from too far away?

    Nuge shoots lots.
    He leads the Oilers in shot attempts with 21.3 per 60
    He leads the Oilers in shots on net with 10.65 per 60.
    He is credited with 9 individual scoring shot attempts from corsica. Maroon leads with 10
    He does shoot a lot from the perimeter, but is almost leading the team in shot attempts from the high danger area as well.

  45. Dustylegnd says:

    LT says,I think Eberle would not be my primary goat, but he has a one-dimensional game despite plenty of effort this spring

    It is ok to be a 1 trick Pony if you are really really good at that one trick..Eberle is currently lost

    If you have lots of tricks but no longer seem to be exceptional at any of those tricks the mob has a right to demand more Luc, this is why we paid you, game 83 and beyond is why you are here DELIVER

    If you are doing everything very very well, except posting points because you are snake bit beyond all reason the mob will cut you a lot of slack…RNH has to break out soon no?

    $18 mill on a 2nd line that has produced diddly squat is a Serious Tell, they have to be better, and begin to post scoring numbers or the Oil will suffer the consequences.

    The support staff has done its job, but mean reversion is a BITCH

    On the Plus side ,it is 2-1 Oil and Talbot will be a lot better, this team is still in a massive growth phase and with growth sometimes there are pains….Nurse and Benning are being exposed for what they are, kids with a ton of potential

    Can not wait for Wednesday…I have a shit ton of faith and at a minimum the future True Core of this team are presenting themselves. Chia’s decisions about who stays and who goes gets easier every day. Ebbs it has been good to know ya…we will see you on the other side

  46. Wolfie says:

    The truth is, the Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy in sport to win. Just when you think you’ve done enough to win more is asked of you.

    The Oilers of the 80s learned that lesson when they walked by the Islanders dressing room seeing the Champs with ice packs everywhere. You need to be willing to pay a higher price.

    The whole team came into the playoffs with their hair on fire. They ran San Jose out of the building by the end of game 2.

    This team has shown resiliency all season. The cost is higher. Players like Eberle and Nuge who have grown so much defensively can take this team over the top when they learn to score and check. The refs can’t possibly continue to let Getzlaf trip all the time can they? Can they?!?

    I was angry about the loss last night. Big difference mentally between 3-0 and 2-1. But the sun came up today. Still have home ice and the series lead. Get after it!

  47. Jethro Tull says:

    Seismic Source: In all fairness RNH made that goal happen keeping the puck in. Ebs essentially threw it on net from a weak position. If it didn’t bounce off Maroons skate we’d be wondering what he was trying to do with it. He chucked it.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lOhvYhyzKjM

    Perspective is everything: A pro-Eberle fan may say that he had traffic in front and that putting it on net is never a bad play.

    Usually, the truth is somewhere in the middle; he made the right choice putting it on net, but it was a weak ass shot that he lucked out on by hitting Maroon.

  48. Chachi says:

    JDI Хоккей:
    Slepy will never play on McDavid’s wing.

    Right Chach?

    ?

  49. Centre of attention says:

    I won’t lie, my expectations for this series changed when they took a 2-0 lead.

    I had picked the Oilers to lose in 7, just trying to be realistic. So I can’t really be that mad if they do end up letting this one slip away.

    It does make it a little bit more painful seeing how close they are to breaking threw.

    Thoughts on Wednesday:

    1: Rest is good. Odds are a couple guys are still fighting the flu, its not like that stuff isn’t contagious.

    2: Eberle needs to be locked in a room with the video coach for these 2 days. Besides a little bit of powerplay work the game previous he hasn’t done much. Not getting inside the hashmarks for his chances.

    3: Nuge is due. He’s pushing hard and perhaps a change of line mates will help

    4: Lucic needs to focus less on the scrums and get his stick on the ice around the net.

    5: point #4 can also apply to maroon, who despite producing a bit lately has also missed some chances.

    6: nice to see Slepy get his shot if Stauffers lines are correct from yesterday!

  50. McSorley33 says:

    frjohnk,

    Looch – RNH – Eberle:

    27 playoff games between the 3 of them.
    0 even strength goals.

    Someone said it earlier…..Eberle and Lucic are like Oil and Water on the ice together.

  51. Rake 2.0 says:

    Wolfie,

    It seems to me getzlaf can do whatever he wants with no repercussions from the officials.

  52. New Improved Darkness says:

    Dino: Goal 5: OFFSIDE.

    You can only do this if the offside is so obviously obvious-to-everyone to your own guys that the goal results because some or all of them half-way quit on the play.

    Linesmen doing a far better job than the alpha zeb. After all of those mistakes, we still count goals. Yet for a far smaller error, because it has this weird technical precision that’s easy to telestrate in freeze-frame on a 50″ job, we wipe the books.

    Zone entries are not an Olympic long jump, where every inch stolen counts directly toward your final result.

    I’m with Bruce. These penny-wise and pound-foolish replays are predominantly counterproductive.

    Furthermore, it creates a theatrical spectacle of false-precision and league vigilance, distracting from other aspects of the officiating standard that quietly remain a shit-show.

    For cripes sake, we spend more time surveilling a pretty good zone entry than Olympic coverage would devote to rewinding a Jamaican baton-drop in the men’s 4×100m final heat.

  53. JustWatt says:

    Dustylegnd:

    If you have lots of tricks but no longer seem to be exceptional at any of those tricks the mob has a right to demand more Luc, this is why we paid you, game 83 and beyond is why you are here DELIVER

    The support staff has done its job, but mean reversion is a BITCH

    Let’s hope that you are right about both of these things because the 2nd line was strong at the end of the season and right now they are snake-bit. We need some reversion for the 2nd line ASAP and Nuge is earning it big time.

  54. Jaxon says:

    Major shakeup:

    Maroon / Nugent-Hopkins / Draisaitl – solid line last night, keep them together.
    Pouliot / McDavid / Slepyshev – 2 fast wingers with underrated skill who are checking well. Pouliot has scored well with McDavid in the past and if he comes alive, you’ve got a deeper team.
    Caggiula / Letestu / Kassian – speedy checking wingers with some skill.
    Lucic / Desharnais / Eberle – the dog house for Lucic and Eberle with a feisty, creative center who just might wake them up.

    Stupid? Insane? Brilliant? Go home, you’re drunk? So strange that it just might work? Balance? Depth? Can McDavid make these wingers work? Work really well? Work better? Or is it stranding McDavid without good enough wingers?

    Or, do you separate Lucic and Eberle by switching one of them with Caggiula or Kassian?

  55. Seismic Source says:

    Jaxon,

    Biggest problem with a lineup like that is if they don’t show instant results the blender comes out again. I like it, but if there were no rewards in the first ten minutes McDavid would get paired up with old faithfuls again.

  56. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Rake 2.0: You say this. But where are we gonna get a 50-60 point 2 way center that plays top comp for less than 6 mil per. let alone one that is 24 years old. Get nuge better wingers. You can’t expect a guy to play against the other teams best with 2 wingers that aren’t fast enough, and who have never been strong 2 way players.

    Using WoodMoney QoC numbers I picked out each “tough minute center” from each team in the league and posted a bunch of their 16/17 results on twitter.

    Here’s one with their 5v5 pts/60 and salary.

    Even at this low level of production, for his role RNH is not overpaid.

    He’s not a value, but he’s not overpaid.

    https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/858693322537357312

    I was pretty surprised by the results. Out of the 30 tough minute C’s, only 5 of them managed over 2pts/60 5v5.

  57. StixMalone says:

    All the Eberle bashing ( deserved or not ) is not the only issue with last nights game. Eberle can redeem himself on Wednesday’s game. But if I were Tmac I’d keep his leash short. I hate to say it but what about McDavid? Sure he had a great goal but he was also poor defensively. This isn’t on one player and his shortcomings. Who knows maybe Ebs is sick or injured? One never knows. It takes a team effort to win OR lose. One thing for sure they were not ready to play in the first period. They knew the Ducks were gonna come out and play and the Oil shit the bed. Seen it numerous times throughout the year. They just don’t get it yet. They will. I hope they come out and start mean and keep it up the whole game. Start crashing and banging. The Ducks don’t like that and you have seen what happens when they play that game. Ducks defence is young and hurting and we need to take advantage of it for success……

  58. anjinsan says:

    Twice Draisaitl has carried the puck in on a juicy odd man rush telegraphing PASS instead of keeping the goalie guessing.

    I know he’ll fix it but Gibson read him (duh!) each time with ease.

  59. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Using WoodMoney QoC numbers I picked out each “tough minute center” from each team in the league and posted a bunch of their 16/17 results on twitter.

    Here’s one with their 5v5 pts/60 and salary.

    Even at this low level of production, for his role RNH is not overpaid.

    He’s not a value, but he’s not overpaid.

    https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/858693322537357312

    I was pretty surprised by the results.Out of the 30 tough minute C’s, only 5 of them managed over 2pts/60 5v5.

    Nuge is the third best player on the Oilers. I have no problem with them paying him 6 million a year.

  60. Pouzar says:

    Eberle, while more defensively sound, is a shadow of his former offensive self.
    There was a time the guy would create something on every shift but it doesn’t “look”
    that way to me anymore. Shrug.

  61. jm363561 says:

    Living outside of Edmonton I am not fully aware of today’s negativity coming from the fan base. However, as this is obviously a thing it is quite ridiculous. We are, working from memory, 18 – 5 in the last 23 games (including 11 or 12 against Anaheim and San Jose). We are in the second round of the playoffs and 2-1 up. A fantastic run for a young team.

    Sometimes you wonder if the Oilers have supporters or critics.

  62. Rake 2.0 says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    By no means was I saying he’s a bargain. But he is playing those hard minutes with two wingers who aren’t suited to that role. I hope they keep RNH around long term. I really think when JP has some experience he and RNH would be a very good 2 way pair.

  63. Bag of Pucks says:

    RNH. Once you accept that he’s more Sean Couturier than Nicklas Backstrom, there’s a lot in Nuge’s game to like these playoffs. Positionally, he’s been very solid. He’s been absolutely dogged in puck pursuit. And he’s getting chances. As always, the only thing preventing him from being an elite defensive centreman is the inability to roll him out for important Dzone draws.

    Lucic: This team had zero crease front presence until Maroon and Lucic both stepped up to play the Holmstrom role this season. It’s a thankless, non-glamourous, painful job and it’s hugely valuable. By my eye, he needs to play to his strengths more by punishing D on the forecheck with more consistency and driving the opposition to distraction. We should be seeing Kesler and Getzlaf in the box on occasion because of big Loo being a dick. He also wins a TON of board battles to retain possession on the cycle. Suggesting Lucic is a poor hockey player shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the importance of territorial position in the most highly contested areas of the rink (i.e. the prime scoring real estate). Before Maroon and Lucic, you could count the number of contested rebounds this team got each game on one hand.

    Eberle: Not getting the playoff redemption as yet that he was hoping for to salvage a subpar season. Has made huge strides on his 200ft game particularly on the backcheck, but will likely never be a highly effective player along the wall though his compete level has definitely improved on that front. My take is that he’s very much struggling within MacLellan’s system. His game pre-TMac was all about going to open space in the Ozone to separate himself for a more accurate shot. In a system where being on the right side of the puck and gap control is now demanded, it’s reduced his freelance options. Because he lacks great separation speed, going to and staying in open ice was his preferred gambit to give him the necessary setup time for his shot. What you see now is an Eberle keeping a tighter gap to the opposition and thus giving up less defensively, but not generating nearly enough shots because of where he finds himself positionally within the system.

    I feel bad for Ebs. I’m sure he realized that he’d need to refine the ability to get his shot off quicker and in more confined spaces within this new system, and by all accounts, he put in the work during the offseason. But it just hasn’t paid dividends for him yet.

    Would really love to see a breakout game for this line. Particularly for RNH and Eberle who played through so many difficult seasons, it would be great to see the emotional release from an important playoff tally.

  64. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    godot10,

    Nurse didn’t see Getzlaf, because if you practice that rim play over and over one doesn’t expect the Duck to be there

    That makes no sense.

    If Ralph Krueger was the coach Nurse would have gone end to end, scored a highlight reel goal and celebrated it by making love to Ryan Getzlaf’s wife on the Duck’s bench.

  65. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Chachi: ?

    You’re always wrong so he wants you to agree so it will come true.

  66. Bag of Pucks says:

    jm363561:
    Living outside of Edmonton I am not fully aware of today’s negativity coming from the fan base. However, as this is obviously a thing it is quite ridiculous. We are, working from memory, 18 – 5 in the last 23 games (including 11 or 12 against Anaheim and San Jose). We are in the second round of the playoffs and 2-1 up. A fantastic run for a young team.

    Sometimes you wonder if the Oilers have supporters or critics.

    My sense is it’s more the nature of the Internet than it is the fanbase. On the street and in face to face interaction, most people have a more balanced pov and are absolutely ecstatic about the unexpected bonuses this season has already delivered.

    On the Internet however, once the love train or the hate mail starts ramping up, it’s pretty easy for a mob mentality to quickly take hold.

  67. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Chachi: Nuge is the third best player on the Oilers. I have no problem with them paying him 6 million a year.

    I got:

    McEverything (obv)

    Then a group of 3:

    Dreamy
    Talbot
    Nuge

    Don’t forget about Dreamy (who had a night to forget last night)

  68. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Chachi: If Ralph Krueger was the coach Nurse would have gone end to end, scored a highlight reel goal and celebrated it by making love to Ryan Getzlaf’s wife on the Duck’s bench.

    Now that makes sense.

  69. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I got:

    McEverything (obv)

    Then a group of 3:

    Dreamy
    Talbot
    Nuge

    Don’t forget about Dreamy (who had a night to forget last night)

    I’ve got

    McWonderful
    .
    Lucic
    .
    .
    .
    Just kdding about Lucic wanted Bruce Wayne to have a coronary.
    After McAwesome I have a group of 4:

    Klefbom
    Nuge
    Draisaitl
    Talbot

  70. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Now that makes sense.

    He wrote a motivational book in German! German!!! Do you know how complicated it is to say “trust fall” in German! Do you? I don’t.

  71. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: You’re always wrong so he wants you to agree so it will come true.

    In my opinion Slepyshev not only will not play with McDavid, he’ll immediately quit hockey to go work on a Siberian potato frigate.

  72. Bag of Pucks says:

    Btw, based on his last couple of articles, I think Marc Spector should cast aside any illusions he may be harboring that he’s a legitimate journalist. To be fair, journo’s these days have to embrace a ‘clickbait’ mentality to protect their job security, but Spector seems to be actively trolling now.

    If you’re an alleged journalist, and you’re using terms like ‘stat geeks,’ I think it’s fair to suggest your journalistic objectivity has long since left the building.

    I often wonder if certain members of the MSM realize that the obvious disdain they have for the analytics movement in specific, and content crowd sourcing in general, is actually diminishing their credibility? The surest path to obsolescence is to rail against new approaches and ideas.

  73. slopitch says:

    Im not sure they need to go crazy on the lines. Anaheim had their backs against the wall and had a good game. Oilers had a bad one. Time to re-group and win game 4. Its too bad they wasted 2 lucky goals for but the quality and quantity of mistakes made (including in net) were too much to overcome.

    Id maybe try Kassian with Nuge. But Kassian has been key to the other line. Time to focus on improved execution rather than sweeping changes.

  74. dustrock says:

    Lucic and Eberle need to be better full stop.

    Lucic has had 2 horrid plays in the OZ in Games 1 and 2, fortunately Fowler’s legs collapsed in Game 2 and he couldn’t secure the breakaway.

    We supposedly brought in Lucic for his veteran leadership and playoff experience, and as usual, it’s a fairytale. But he apparently gets a pass, almost as bad as Getzlaf gets a series-long pass for having a penalty called against him.

    Kassian has disappeared, or they’ve figured him out.

    I can’t decide if the Ducks simply are better and more experienced, or if it’s just been a weird series. I honestly cannot believe they came back from 3-0, and it shows the Ducks continue to be vulnerable.

    As good as McDavid’s goal was, and it was Messi-like, is it harsh to say he needs to be better? He doesn’t seem to be the same player, don’t know if it’s flu or what. I realize a mediocre game from him is better than 90% of NHLers, but this team has relied on his presence and ability all season long.

  75. Jon K says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Its stretching the defence and a sound tactical strategy when the opponents do it.

    Its cheating for offence, shows poor judgement and a lack of commitment to a 200ft game when the Oilers do it.

    In fairness, the strategy is more or less sound depending on the personnel of the team. Transition is a strength for Anaheim’s defense, I would suggest. I would similarly suggest it is a weakness of the Edmonton defense. Anaheim’s forwards are not exactly fleet of foot aside from the Kesler line, so it also makes it more desirable to use a strategy where the puck is coming to them rather than them skating it through the neutral zone.

    It could be bias on my part though. I’ve been complaining all year that Edmonton’s offence suffers greatly from the lack of transitional ability from the defense. I suspect it is part of why we are consistently getting Benning rather than Gryba in the playoffs.

  76. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Yeti: For a brief moment there I thought you were getting rather kinky for this early an hour.

    awesome

  77. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Chachi: I’ve got

    McWonderful
    .
    Lucic
    .
    .
    .
    Just kdding about Lucic wanted Bruce Wayne to have a coronary.
    After McAwesome I have a group of 4:

    Klefbom
    Nuge
    Draisaitl
    Talbot

    yeah, forgot Herr DrySaddle.

    I agree with that

  78. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: yeah, forgot Herr DrySaddle.

    I agree with that

    You forgot about Drai!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5a93wABHNM

  79. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Chachi: He wrote a motivational book in German! German!!! Do you know how complicated it is to say “trust fall” in German! Do you? I don’t.

    I would think that Germans would disdain trust falls and have a word for them that would translate to “weak minded American drivel”

    Maybe “Schwachgesinnteamaerikanische Scheiße”

  80. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Chachi: In my opinion Slepyshev not only will not play with McDavid, he’ll immediately quit hockey to go work on a Siberian potato frigate.

    *whew*

  81. Chachi says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I would think that Germans would disdain trust falls and have a word for them that would translate to “weak minded American drivel”

    Maybe “Schwachgesinnteamaerikanische Scheiße”

    Looks good to me.

  82. Showerhead says:

    Dino,

    I’m more or less on board with this.

    The daggers make no sense to me. None at all.

    A freebie from a faceoff set play. A shitty zone exit from Drai. A freebie from a breakout set play. A freebie from Talbot completely flubbing one.

    The offside goal actually had a lot of bad coverage so it’s the one I’d complain the most about and finally, a freebie from Kesler taking one off the head as McDavid leaves him alone to head up ice.

    You can’t spot a team that many goals and expect to win – this much is obvious. But Edmonton is better than that. I don’t see how any of this leads to the conclusion that they lost based on the actions of one or two guys.

    Anyway. After 2-0 I wrote that it was anything but a dominant 2-0. At 2-1, the same can be said but last night’s game is not likely to repeat itself. Edmonton has every chance to outplay Anaheim two more times. They probably will and, as long as the low hanging fruit of BS freebies gets trimmed, they still have a good chance to win the series.

    Game 4 though. Please please please win game 4.

  83. hags9k says:

    I’d be tempted to put 14 in for 55 on the 1PP, to see if it might help get the magic hands and the juices going a little bit.

    I think game 4 will be the breakout game for 14 and 93. They will both put up a huge effort and I think the hockey gords will give them a bounce or two.

  84. frjohnk says:

    G Money has Nuges shot chart up.

    https://twitter.com/OilersNerdAlert/status/859098483050946560/photo/1

    Nuge is getting to the dirty areas with the puck just has not cashed.

  85. godot10 says:

    Woogie63:
    PP2 is not getting it done.We need a new look.

    Slepy-DD-Maroon

    Nurse-RNH

    Should get a look.

    The game-winning-goal in game 2 is apparently “not getting it done”.

  86. DocFan says:

    Wow, lose a play-off game and the knives (which have been sharpened and put away for such an occasion) come out.

    Oilers are 6-3, and are still in good contention for Western Finals, which I’m sure everyone would have laughed at (including me) on Sept 1. How about stopping and taking some time to relish in real play-off games for this club after 11 years!

    If / When anahiem is up 3-2 in the series, I’ll take my knives out too. Until then, how about a little calm?

  87. Ice Sage says:

    The Edmonton Oilers are playing hockey in May.

  88. Primetime says:

    My preferred lines:

    L1: Maroon-McD-Drai
    L2: Lucic-RNH-Slepy
    L3: Pouliot – DD- Ebs
    L4: Caggs-Letestu-Kassian

    —————————————————————————————
    L1: Big line has produced all year and G4 is biggest game to date…go with your best
    L2: Had a few shifts together in G2 and looked really good. Slepy deserves more ice time, fast and heavy
    L3: Get Ebs some clean air on a line with less pressure. DD is creative and he’s played a ton with Pou before. Also give this line equal ice time as L4 as they are not getting much done at present.
    L4: As above, not hugely effective this series. To be honest, I would consider subbing Khaira in for Caggs to see what happens (also lets Slepy get on a PP unit)

  89. Jordan says:

    We need UNICORNS!

    Maroon – McDavid – Slepyshev
    Lucic – RNH – Kassian
    Pouliot – Draisaitl – Eberle
    Khaira – Letestu – Pakarinen

    Time to release the scoring!

  90. godot10 says:

    Side: This is an incredible stretch.

    Nurse didn’t see Getzlaf? Nurse was only behind the net with a view of the entire ice and had plenty of options, perhaps he should get his vision checked if this is the case.

    Just because you’re coached a play, it doesn’t mean you ignore common sense and give the opposing team the puck just because they are somewhere you don’t expect.

    You’re fighting pretty hard to keep this “mediocre coach” narrative alive.

    Nurse didn’t “see” Getzlaf just like Brady didn’t “see” the safety for the pick 6 in the first half of the Super Bowl.

    Your mind plays tricks on you. The/a safety typically tracks Edelman across the field on crossing routes. And Brady would throw to a receiver breaking into the hole left by the safety tracking Edelman.

    But Atlanta had a wrinkle for the Super Bowl. On some plays the safety would track Edelman, and on some plays they would pass him off to a defender on the other side of the field, and then just in the hole covering nobody. And Brady did not “see” him on the pick 6. It took the Patriots the whole first half to figure out an offensive adjustment to not get fooled by this again.

    McLellan’s rim play has been failing all year, mostly with Russell, and this time it failed spectacularly, because forwards don’t make sight adjustments to their tracking based on where the defensder are to provide a visual cue to the defender (in this case Nurse) to “see” what the defense is trying to trick them into not “seeing”. Sight adjustments are standard practice for receivers in football to provide visual cues for the quarterback, to help the quarterback not get fooled.

    McLelllan and his cloistered group of groupthink assistants who have been around him for a decade are behind to the “fast hockey” being played by the Penguins and Rangers and Blue Jackets.

    On one of their base plays, they have no sight adjustments by the forwards to signal to the D what the defenders are doing.

  91. jzed says:

    Some love Looch, tough, wins board battles, hits, fights
    Some love Ebs, slick, scores beautiful goals

    Truth is at their pay grade both have warts
    Ebs is still too soft and loses too many puck battles, I know he’s trying but when he chips and chases, chases ends about three feet from boards and when he does finish a check, does the ‘glancing blow and roll ” maneuver that leaves D man upright and in control of puck. If Cogliano can be depended on for finishing checks and winning loose pucks, so should Ebs.

    Looch is an ungainly skater that wanders in no man land on forechecks that don’t deter much of anything, and attempts to rag the puck in dangerous positions with questionable ‘ragging’ skills.

    On paper , the 666 line should be effective with RNH controlling puck, Lucic skating in straight lines and crashing and bashing, and Ebs darting into open ice for skillful finishes. So where is the breakdown?

    It would be nice if we could sort this out for them😉

  92. Side says:

    godot10: Nurse didn’t “see” Getzlaf just like Brady didn’t “see” the safety for the pick 6 in the first half of the Super Bowl.

    Your mind plays tricks on you. The/a safety typically tracks Edelman across the field on crossing routes. And Brady would throw to a receiver breaking into the hole left by the safety tracking Edelman.

    But Atlanta had a wrinkle for the Super Bowl.On some plays the safety would track Edelman, and on some plays they would pass him off to a defender on the other side of the field, and then just in the hole covering nobody.And Brady did not “see” him on the pick 6.It took the Patriots the whole first half to figure out an offensive adjustment to not get fooled by this again.

    McLellan’s rim play has been failing all year, mostly with Russell, and this time it failed spectacularly, because forwards don’t make sight adjustments to their tracking based on where the defensder are to provide a visual cue to the defender (in this case Nurse) to “see” what the defense is trying to trick them into not “seeing”.Sight adjustments are standard practice for receivers in football to provide visual cues for the quarterback, to help the quarterback not get fooled.

    McLelllan and his cloistered group of groupthink assistants who have been around him for a decade are behind to the “fast hockey” being played by the Penguins and Rangers and Blue Jackets.

    On one of their base plays, they have no sight adjustments by the forwards to signal to the D what the defenders are doing.

    You’re making this seem a lot more complicated and intricate then it was.

    Nurse was behind the net, he had 3 available teammates skate near/by him who were ready for a pass/breakout. Instead, Nurse passed it along the boards to an available Getzlaf.

    This would be like if Brady looked at his open teammates, and instead threw it to an Atlanta player who was waiting by the sidelines.

    There were no mind tricks, Nurse had time, he could see the whole ice. It’s not even like Getzlaff was skating hard and weaving between players to jump into the lane Nurse was throwing the puck too. He just watched Nurse in plain sight, saw Nurse was going to throw it along the boards and moved into the spot.

    You’re making it seem as if this whole play was doomed for failure no matter who was in Nurse’s position. This one is on Nurse. McLellan coached the team to give multiple options to players in Nurse’s position. Nurse chose the wrong option.

  93. Frank the dog says:

    Chachi: ame

    Ralph Krueger coached Stan Weir.

  94. godot10 says:

    Seismic Source:
    Whatever it takes to unlock RNH. I’d be willing to try anything beginning with getting him away from the other Austins

    Nugent-Hopkins is playing against the top line of the opposition, and mostly doing okay, and you want to give him weaker wingers? The Oilers have no better option at centre against top opposition.

    Pouliot might be as effective as Lucic with Nugent-Hopkins, but the Oilers don’t have a right wing
    (other than Draisaitl) who would be as effective there.

    But taking Draisaitl away from McDavid would expose McDavid’s defensive weaknesses more.

  95. Bag of Pucks says:

    Ice Sage:
    The Edmonton Oilers are playing hockey in May.

    +1

  96. godot10 says:

    Bag of Pucks:

    Lucic: This team had zero crease front presence until Maroon and Lucic both stepped up to play the Holmstrom role this season. It’s a thankless, non-glamourous, painful job and it’s hugely valuable. By my eye, he needs to play to his strengths more by punishing D on the forecheck with more consistency and driving the opposition to distraction. We should be seeing Kesler and Getzlaf in the box on occasion because of big Loo being a dick. He also wins a TON of board battles to retain possession on the cycle. Suggesting Lucic is a poor hockey player shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the importance of territorial position in the most highly contested areas of the rink (i.e. the prime scoring real estate). Before Maroon and Lucic, you could count the number of contested rebounds this team got each game on one hand.

    Lucic isn’t fast enough to be an effective forechecker. He arrives a beat late. Lucic is good on the rush and good on the cycle, but he needs the other forwards he is playing with to get in on the forecheck first and hold it a beat until he arrives.

    It is why him and Eberle are not really effective, unless Nugent-Hopkins is being effective on the forecheck. But since Nugent-Hopkins is being less aggressive on the forecheck because he is minding the top centre of the opposition, the offense of that line goes to crap. I would try swapping Pouliot and Lucic, but Pouliot is the Oiler deepest in the coach’s doghouse (well apart from Lander), that he will never see the light of day.

  97. flyfish1168 says:

    getzlaf so far gotten 2 minutes for roughing and the was a coincidental with Kassian. It s a shame that the NHL dictates outcomes of games by not calling all the infractions. Bullying and intimidation is how you win. NHL is good with that even in todays society on bullying.

  98. flyfish1168 says:

    Ice Sage:
    The Edmonton Oilers are playing hockey in May.

    Next goal is June

  99. russ99 says:

    Rake 2.0: You say this. But where are we gonna get a 50-60 point 2 way center that plays top comp for less than 6 mil per. let alone one that is 24 years old. Get nuge better wingers. You can’t expect a guy to play against the other teams best with 2 wingers that aren’t fast enough, and who have never been strong 2 way players.

    I guess we’ll see what the market value is when Hanzal signs this summer.

    When you pay a guy $6M, you shouldn’t have to prop him up with better players. He’s played great in the playoffs, no doubt. But this is a results-driven business, and that line needs to put up 5×5 points.

    IMO the real issue with the second line is that only Lucic has bought into the system on the cycle, RNH and Ebs are too oriented to the rush, and thus keep trying to make the perfect play.

    Again, better in the playoffs, but not enough to dent the scoresheet.

    I really hope it changes, both for the team and the players in question and also for trade value when inevitably Chiarelli needs to pick one to move to clear cap room.

  100. godot10 says:

    Chachi: If Ralph Krueger was the coach Nurse would have gone end to end, scored a highlight reel goal and celebrated it by making love to Ryan Getzlaf’s wife on the Duck’s bench.

    I wonder if Ralph will apply for the POHO job (Chiarelli-equivalent position) with the Sabres. It is a step down from the Nicholson-equivalent job he has with Southampton, but he now has management experience to run an entire hockey operation.

    I expect he would hire a GM and wouldn’t have the duel title.

  101. Diablo says:

    Side:

    You’re making it seem as if this whole play was doomed for failure no matter who was in Nurse’s position.This one is on Nurse. McLellan coached the team to give multiple options to players in Nurse’s position. Nurse chose the wrong option.

    He had a brain fart there – no doubt about it. A rookie moment.
    It’s also a dumb set play that needs to get erased from the playbook.

  102. delooper says:

    RNH appears to be taking longer to get shots off, compared to his rookie year. Maybe it’s because the situations are more frantic, and his set-ups aren’t as clean. There appears to be an extra instant of set-up where in his rookie year he’d just acquire and fire.

  103. godot10 says:

    Side:

    This would be like if Brady looked at his open teammates, and instead threw it to an Atlanta player who was waiting by the sidelines.

    But this is exactly what Brady did, except the safety was in the middle of the field.

    The rim play has been a disaster waiting to happen all season, and the coaches coach it, and do nothing to fix its flaws.

  104. Diablo says:

    godot10:
    Pouliot is the Oiler deepest in the coach’s doghouse (well apart from Lander), that he will never see the light of day.

    For good reason – the play immediately dies on Pouliot’s stick in the offensive zone. Its baffling really – he handles the puck like a hand grenade in the offensive zone.

  105. Jethro Tull says:

    flyfish1168:
    getzlaf so far gotten 2 minutes for roughing and the was a coincidental with Kassian. It s a shame that the NHL dictates outcomes of games by not calling all the infractions. Bullying and intimidation is how you win. NHL is good with that even in todays society on bullying.

    But only from ‘veteran’ teams. The new upstarts try it, it’s blown down, because, you know, you have to earn it.

  106. delooper says:

    I don’t see a reason to be particularly critical of any players. The Oilers drove way past my expectations two months ago. This might be as good as they can be at this stage of development.

    Over the summer they’ll switch things around and likely prepare to be more of a playoff team. Would be lovely to see either an Edmonton-Ottawa or Edmonton-Pittsburgh final. . . even Edmonton-Nashville would be nice. But the Oilers have been amazing of late.

    Part of me hopes Eberle will return to his “clutch ways” but the way these playoffs are called, you’ve got more rights and privileges the heavier and taller you are. These playoffs appear to be the interference games.

  107. Jethro Tull says:

    delooper:
    I don’t see a reason to be particularly critical of any players.The Oilers drove way past my expectations two months ago.This might be as good as they can be at this stage of development.

    Over the summer they’ll switch things around and likely prepare to be more of a playoff team.Would be lovely to see either an Edmonton-Ottawa or Edmonton-Pittsburgh final. . . even Edmonton-Nashville would be nice.But the Oilers have been amazing of late.

    Part of me hopes Eberle will return to his “clutch ways” but the way these playoffs are called, you’ve got more rights and privileges the heavier and taller you are.These playoffs appear to be the interference games.

    The best outcome for Gary Bettman would be a Pens – Oilers final. Failing that, Rags – Oilers.

    Bettman would consider disaster: Ottawa – Oilers, because he does his market research by googling each city and getting their last census data on Wiki. “Wow, population of Phoenix Metropolitan Area is 4.3Million! How can we lose?”

    What Bettman would think was great, but would be a ratings disaster would be Ottawa – Nashville. He’d think he was ‘growing’ the sport into a non-traditional market.

  108. Scungilli Slushy says:

    frjohnk: Might have been first round and I said that the Nuge line has to score.

    EBERLE of course is the first guy to get the daggers.Nuge being good defensively and Lucic being tough gives them more rope.

    Defensively they have been the most consistent line all playoffs.EBERLE makes a “weak play” on the boards even though he was passed the puck when there was a guy on him and it eventually ends up in the net.

    Whether they lose this series or the next or whatever, the lack of production from this line will be brought up as one of the failures.Its just the way its going to be.

    27 playoff games between the 3 of them.

    0 even strength goals.

    And you are right about McDavid.

    We need to enjoy it while we can.

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable to not appreciate Eberle’s playoffs so far. He’s been largely invisible, with nobody scoring much on that line he’s not contributing the level of game Nuge has (among the best) which the coach has praised, and he’s not able to bring the things Lucic brings even if Lucic has had as bad a time with the puck in the O zone, and other things Lucic contributes which the coach has also praised. Eberle needs to find his place in it all, from what I see he hasn’t figured out how to contribute enough which the coach also mentioned. I mean Desharnais is doing a better job in the O zone and he has even more issues with size and speed. Eberle should eat Desharnais’ lunch at this point.

    It’s not a dislike. I have watched a lot of playoff hockey and have had the privilege of watching some of the best including our Oilers. There is a way to play and little things – details – that have to be done for the best chance to succeed. Again as the coach said too many guys aren’t doing that.

  109. Bag of Pucks says:

    godot10: I wonder if Ralph will apply for the POHO job (Chiarelli-equivalent position) with the Sabres.It is a step down from the Nicholson-equivalent job he has with Southampton, but he now has management experience to run an entire hockey operation.

    I expect he would hire a GM and wouldn’t have the duel title.

    That would be awesome but I haven’t seen Pegula being that outside the box with his hires to date with either his NFL or NHL franchises. In fact, most of his hires are kind of falling under the ‘willing puppet’ category.

  110. Bulging Twine says:

    That non call on Getzlaf tripping Nuge(?) was atrocious. Text book tripping penalty. You could use that clip to teach young refs what a tripping infraction is. Seriously, what is going on here with the refs and Getzlaf?! Bizarre.
    Craig Simpson was even saying Getzlaf has been around a lot of plays that aren’t being called. And it was interesting to hear his commentary on a replay, saying something like, player x falls but it’s Getzlaf and there is no call…

  111. npanciroli says:

    Best players on Oilers for me:

    McDavid
    Talbot
    Larsson
    Klefbom
    Draisaitl
    Nuge

    in that order.

  112. Chachi says:

    godot10: I wonder if Ralph will apply for the POHO job (Chiarelli-equivalent position) with the Sabres.It is a step down from the Nicholson-equivalent job he has with Southampton, but he now has management experience to run an entire hockey operation.

    I expect he would hire a GM and wouldn’t have the duel title.

    I expect he would win as much with the Sabres as he has everywhere else.

  113. npanciroli says:

    Maroon McDavid Slepyshev
    Lucic RNH Draisaitl
    Pouliot DD Eberle
    Cagguila Letestu Kassian

    I would roll this next game.

  114. Bulging Twine says:

    I wonder if Lucic should try a longer stick or a different lie.
    He often loses control of the puck or misses passes and interceptions.

  115. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Bulging Twine:
    I wonder if Lucic should try a longer stick or a different lie.
    He often loses control of the puck or misses passes and interceptions.

    Something, it’s been pretty noticeable. Pouliot as well.

  116. Clarkenstein says:

    First off Talbot gets a complete pass. Not even close to being in Round 2, Game 4 without him. Having said that I hope he’s able to get a good nights sleep for home games with 2 babies in the house. Road games not a problem. I hope he has in mother in law in town for the playoffs. If you’ve had babies in the house you know the challenges of getting a good sleep.
    Eberle is Eberle. He looks at his worst against teams like San Jose and Anaheim. No point in sitting him now. My prediction is that in two years he’ll be the playing coach of the Lisbon Lions in the European League. He’ll score 100 goals and be -25.
    I expect to see more of a road game style on Wednesday. They might have got caught up in the hoopla last night and it did them more harm than good. Once they settled down they completely outplayed the Ducks. The whiff by Talbot was more than a young team could overcome.
    Winner of game 4 wins the series.

  117. Oilin4 says:

    Frank the dog: Ralph Krueger coached Stan Weir.

    Nobody coaches Stan Weir. Coaches Stan Weir other players.

  118. Oilin4 says:

    So after Larsson failed to clear that puck do we say the Oilers lost the Hall trade? Of course not. But if that’s ridiculous so is saying his goals justify the trade.

  119. Bulging Twine says:

    This team is so resilient. Lose 7-0 –> win the next game, even going down 3-1 in that game.
    Losing 3-0 last night, tie it up.
    I am confident this team will show up Wednesday.
    Talbot also bounces back well

  120. Bulging Twine says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    It appears he has to bend a fair bit to get his stick down. I think a longer stick with perhaps a slightly different lie would help his stick be in place sooner. It wouldn’t have to travel as far to respond to his brain.

  121. northof51 says:

    RE The American National Anthem

    Nothing I have seen indicates the mic wasn’t working. It appeared that Kissel was trying to entice the fans into singing, which they did (and admirably, I might add).

    Now everyone, including Oilers twitter, is running with the technical difficulties thing. Am I way off or what the H-E-double hockey sticks is going here?

  122. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Scungilli Slushy,

    It appears he has to bend a fair bit to get his stick down.I think a longer stick with perhaps a slightly different lie would help his stick be in place sooner.It wouldn’t have to travel as far to respond to his brain.

    Especially for a guy with a back issue. He doesn’t turn his shoulders nearly as much as regular players. It looks difficult for him to skate at times.

  123. Chachi says:

    northof51:
    RE The American National Anthem

    Nothing I have seen indicates the mic wasn’t working. It appeared that Kissel was trying to entice the fans into singing, which they did (and admirably, I might add).

    Now everyone, including Oilers twitter, is running with the technical difficulties thing. Am I way off or what the H-E-double hockey sticks is going here?

    He was probably mic’d up for t.v. and for the arena. Arena mic wasn’t working, but you could hear him on t.v.

  124. --hudson-- says:

    npanciroli:
    Maroon McDavid Slepyshev
    Lucic RNH Draisaitl
    Pouliot DD Eberle
    Cagguila Letestu Kassian

    I would roll this next game.

    An interesting approach, the first line played together on the road in SJ and RNH-Drai have a history. It would be the Corey Perry treatment for Ebs but maybe he can produce in that role.

    The move RNH made on Getzlaf to break in on Gibson was vintage Sakic. Too bad Gibson made a brilliant save

  125. porknuts says:

    I am posting for the first time ever because I know why the Oilers lost. I was told by a friend that the fans cursed the game by singing the American anthem. I said that I thought that this was a ridiculous statement and he said ‘final score as 6-3, that’s all the proof I need.’

    Can someone please run that stat through the statmoney machine? Get me a wrong anthem/60?

    Thanks.

  126. Chachi says:

    porknuts:
    I am posting for the first time ever because I know why the Oilers lost. I was told by a friend that the fans cursed the game by singing the American anthem. I said that I though that this was a ridiculous statement and he said ‘final score as 6-3, that’s all the proof I need.’

    Can someone please run that stat through the statmoney machine? Get me a wrong anthem/60?

    Thanks.

    All you have to do is go back “a few” years ago to 2006 in game 3 against the San Jose Sharks in Edmonton. Fans sang the U.S. anthem, the Oilers won the game.

  127. LMHF#1 says:

    Chachi: All you have to do is go back “a few” years ago to 2006 in game 3 against the San Jose Sharks in Edmonton. Fans sang the U.S. anthem, the Oilers won the game.

    We’ve sung both anthems at essentially every playoff game in the ’06 run and this year. Just not at the volume yesterday required.

    It gets people fired up.

  128. Chachi says:

    LMHF#1: We’ve sung both anthems at essentially every playoff game in the ’06 run and this year. Just not at the volume yesterday required.

    It gets people fired up.

    Yup.

  129. Bank Shot says:

    northof51:
    RE The American National Anthem

    Nothing I have seen indicates the mic wasn’t working. It appeared that Kissel was trying to entice the fans into singing, which they did (and admirably, I might add).

    Now everyone, including Oilers twitter, is running with the technical difficulties thing. Am I way off or what the H-E-double hockey sticks is going here?

    I was there and you couldn’t hear Kissel or the Canadian anthem singer.

    The technical difficulties answer is the right one.

  130. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Hey all lets play a game

    Here are some stats for a player from last nights game plus the cap hit and term remaining after the comma

    0 0 0 -1 2 21 12:28 9:13, $8.625 x 4

    With all the teeth gnashing about our man Eberle, his borderline uselessness and his brutal contract, I’d hate to be the greasy bum who’s stats line is above

  131. godot10 says:

    northof51:
    RE The American National Anthem

    Nothing I have seen indicates the mic wasn’t working. It appeared that Kissel was trying to entice the fans into singing, which they did (and admirably, I might add).

    Now everyone, including Oilers twitter, is running with the technical difficulties thing. Am I way off or what the H-E-double hockey sticks is going here?

    The story is:

    Sound to TV was working. Sound to Kissel’s monitors/arena was not.

    i.e. We could hear him on TV. He could not hear himself. The crowd could not hear him.

  132. LMHF#1 says:

    godot10: The story is:

    Sound to TV was working.Sound to Kissel’s monitors/arena was not.

    i.e. We could hear him on TV.He could not hear himself.The crowd could not hear him.

    They also had a bunch of sound problems period. During warmup the music stopped. It was in and out during the game. Very very weird.

  133. Chachi says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    Hey all lets play a game

    Here are some stats for a player from last nights game plus the cap hit and term remaining after the comma

    0 0 0 -1 2 21 12:28 9:13, $8.625 x 4

    With all the teeth gnashing about our man Eberle, his borderline uselessness and his brutal contract, I’d hate to be the greasy bum who’s stats line is above

    During the National Anthems he was vibrating like a jack hammer. It was like a whole body version of Barry Trotz’s eyebrows. Almost like he was on something.

  134. Chachi says:

    godot10: The story is:

    Sound to TV was working.Sound to Kissel’s monitors/arena was not.

    i.e. We could hear him on TV.He could not hear himself.The crowd could not hear him.

    Ralph Krueger would have had a re-animated Whitney Houston and a spare karaoke machine ready to go in the same situation.

  135. Bulging Twine says:

    LMHF#1: They also had a bunch of sound problems period. During warmup the music stopped. It was in and out during the game. Very very weird.

    Helene Elliott says, “Oh my…the music stopped at Rogers Place. Great fans fill in the silence with chants.”

  136. Jethro Tull says:

    npanciroli:
    Best players on Oilers for me:

    McDavid
    Talbot
    Larsson
    Klefbom
    Draisaitl
    Nuge

    in that order.

    Best players on the Oilers, as voted by Eastern MSM:

    Connor McDavid
    Alex Ovechkin
    Alex Ovechkin
    Draisaitl
    Talbot
    Nuge

  137. Doug McLachlan says:

    LT, thanks again for reminding everyone to take a stress pill and think things over.

    We are in Round 2 of the playoffs and up a game. We still hold home-ice and played an awful game (which we managed to tie up after a dreadful start). Back away from the edge people. It’s all good.

    It is a sign of how well this team has performed of late that we are so expectant of success. Turning north doesn’t always mean that the road is straight.

    The Eberle criticism comes with the territory. He’s a goal scorer and even in a down year (20 goals being a down year is telling here) the expectation is that he would have a goal or two. Hell swap Kassian’s 2 g for Eberle’s 2 a and it’s not really even a discussion.

    RNH 24 shots – 0 goals, Ebs 17 shots – 0 goals, Lucic 13 shots – 1 goal. As a line they have a 1.85 shooting %. I think they are better than that. Regular season Lucic had a 13.1% rate, RNH a 9.0% rate and Eberle 9.6% rate – the lowest of his career and almost 4% below his career average.

    Patience people. I know it’s hard in the playoffs where the sample size is both so small and yet so big but patience.

  138. Bulging Twine says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    and just to be clear, I am not in any way slamming the player. And i know you aren’t either. Just seeing that he may be hampered by too short of a stick.

  139. Chachi says:

    Jethro Tull: Best players on the Oilers, as voted by Eastern MSM:

    Connor McDavid
    Alex Ovechkin
    Alex Ovechkin
    Draisaitl
    Talbot
    Nuge

    LOL

  140. Jethro Tull says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Scungilli Slushy,

    and just to be clear, I am not in any way slamming the player.And i know you aren’t either.Just seeing that he may be hampered by too short of a stick.

    Eberle changed his stick size this year….

  141. CrazyCoach says:

    porknuts: I was told by a friend that the fans cursed the game by singing the American anthem. I said that I thought that this was a ridiculous statement and he said ‘final score as 6-3, that’s all the proof I need.’

    You need to friend smarter friends. No need to dig out the stats here.

  142. delooper says:

    I imagine we’ll never know what’s up but Maroon in his interview today looked decimated. His brain was slow — his was dragging words out. Red splotches on his face. He looked shaken-up.

  143. Bulging Twine says:

    Jethro Tull: Eberle changed his stick size this year….

    Different reasons

  144. Doug McLachlan says:

    delooper,

    So another Oiler dealing with the flu?

  145. Bulging Twine says:

    Patrick Eaves left arena with walking boot on right foot. Carlyle said he’s day to day.
    -Helene Elliot

    RC said he isn’t ruled out for Game 4
    -Eric Stephens

  146. delooper says:

    Doug McLachlan:
    So another Oiler dealing with the flu?

    Maybe, but he wasn’t sniffly. Flu + decongestants, perhaps.

  147. Admiral Ackbar says:

    SOO much wobble in that game! Even McDavid had a weak defensive game (pointed out in detail by McCurdy and Staples on Cult of Hockey podcast). To they eye, there were quite a few culprits in the defensive zone (Nurse, Russel, McDavid, etc.).

    Eberle certainly doesn’t deserve all of the blame but the Ducks are continually relying on him to kill offensive plays as soon as it hits his stick. It’s like he hasn’t figured out that he’s not fast nor strong enough to carry the puck over the offensive blueline. On top of it, he’s shooting the puck into areas where his teammates aren’t expecting him to send it.

    Credit the ducks for throwing a wrench in the Oilers motor. Still, smart players adapt. Eberle hasn’t done that.

  148. theres oil in virginia says:

    porknuts:
    I am posting for the first time ever because I know why the Oilers lost. I was told by a friend that the fans cursed the game by singing the American anthem. I said that I thought that this was a ridiculous statement and he said ‘final score as 6-3, that’s all the proof I need.’

    Can someone please run that stat through the statmoney machine? Get me a wrong anthem/60?

    Thanks.

    Just take the money:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm2W0sq9ddU

  149. DBO says:

    Found myself looking up the world championship team and being annoyed at no oilers being picked….. then remembered we are in the playoffs. Coffee was needed, but reading many posts seemed like we had been eliminated and our guys would be heading overseas. Everyone take a breath.

    One game. They will adjust. Still think this heads to 7. Playoffs! Enjoy it.

  150. Admiral Ackbar says:

    The Oilers are quickly discovering how hard it gets in the playoffs when there’s no space to do anything. The Ducks close the gap so early in the neutral zone and their mobile dmen grab pucks shot in long before the forechecker is arriving. Makes me think they should be modifying their gameplan. Ring the shootin and run a guy in hard on the weakside.

    I get worried at times that TMac doesn’t see the game within the game – that may have been an issue with his previous employment. Daryl Sutter ate his lunch on many occasion. The Oilers are getting hammered, getting pouty and taking stupid penalties. Penalties are inevitable against a team playing like the Ducks. The refereeing consistently endeavours to have a relative amount of calls go against either team. The Oilers are getting weak calls – I’d say make those calls count.

  151. Admiral Ackbar says:

    DBO:

    One game. They will adjust. Still think this heads to 7. Playoffs! Enjoy it.

    Brilliant words. As a friend texts me continuously during the game:

    “Breathe…….”

  152. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Jethro Tull: Eberle changed his stick size this year….

    I wish I could change my ‘stick size’.

  153. Admiral Ackbar says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    Hey all lets play a game

    Here are some stats for a player from last nights game plus the cap hit and term remaining after the comma

    0 0 0 -1 2 21 12:28 9:13, $8.625 x 4

    With all the teeth gnashing about our man Eberle, his borderline uselessness and his brutal contract, I’d hate to be the greasy bum who’s stats line is above

    Corey Perry?!

  154. treevojo says:

    Pretty hard for the Oilers to win in 5 if they didn’t lose a game.

    Fuck a duck.

  155. Professor Q says:

    treevojo:
    Pretty hard for the Oilers to win in 5 if they didn’t lose a game.

    Fuck a duck.

    Nuge weighs as much as a Duck. Now, what does that mean?

  156. treevojo says:

    Professor Q: Nuge weighs as much as a Duck. Now, what does that mean?

    Oh nuge you dog.

    http://i.imgur.com/hWOqb5f.jpg

  157. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Admiral Ackbar:
    The Oilers are quickly discovering how hard it gets in the playoffs when there’s no space to do anything. The Ducks close the gap so early in the neutral zone and their mobile dmen grab pucks shot in long before the forechecker is arriving. Makes me think they should be modifying their gameplan. Ring the shootin and run a guy in hard on the weakside.

    I get worried at times that TMac doesn’t see the game within the game – that may have been an issue with his previous employment. Daryl Sutter ate his lunch on many occasion. The Oilers are getting hammered, getting pouty and taking stupid penalties. Penalties are inevitable against a team playing like the Ducks. The refereeing consistently endeavours to have a relative amount of calls go against either team. The Oilers are getting weak calls – I’d say make those calls count.

    The coaches aren’t on the ice. If the players are playing the systems then sure it’s on the coach but a fair few guys aren’t. Coach says they are freelancing which is an effort to get it done with personal effort which is admirable but doesn’t work in hockey or most team sports

  158. misfit says:

    He’s a witch! Burn him!

  159. Seismic Source says:

    Wow Crosby just got knocked out with a hockey play.

  160. MrEd says:

    Nuge is wicked. That’s all.

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