2017 PLAYOFFS (G10): G4 DUCKS AT OILERS

We are beginning to see the breadth and depth of Connor McDavid’s impact season. He is now eligible for three major awards this summer:

  • Art Ross Trophy (he has already won it)
  • Hart Trophy (MVP)
  • Ted Lindsay Award (Outstanding player in the regular season as judged by the members of the NHL Players Association).

It’s going to be a fun summer, we get to see McDavid receive the first (of many) major awards. You can track a team’s progress partly through awards, as elite talents emerge, establish themselves and then begin winning Stanley’s. Bobby Clarke’s first Hart Trophy came in 1973, and the Flyers won Stanley in 1974. Wayne Gretzky won his first Hart Trophy in 1980, the Oilers won Stanley in 1984. All good arrows here, make that great arrows.

OILERS DEPTH CHART AND PLAYOFF SCORING

  • The three members of the 1line have scored eight goals, almost a g-a-g line so far this spring. The second line has one goal, and that’s on all three men.
  • The third line has five goals, although ML’s power-play presence is a key to that total.
  • The fourth line has three goals, good production.
  • The defense? Five goals.
  • Cam Talbot is the key player for tonight. If he plays well, and that seems a reasonable bet, the Oilers have a very good chance to fly to California up three games to one.

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COMPLETE FIRST-ROUND MOCK DRAFT

  1. New Jersey Devils: RC Nolan Patrick, Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL). Complete talent, he has a nice range of skills and will add to NJD’s group of quality young F’s (Pavel Zacha, Michael McLeod, Nathan Bastian, John Quenneville).
  2. Philadelphia Flyers: LC Nico Hischier, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). A more dynamic offensive player than Patrick, he would represent the most skilled forward drafted by Philadelphia since Claude Giroux in 2006.
  3. Dallas Stars: LC Casey Mittelstadt, Green Bay Gamblers (USHL). Speed and skill, he also possesses good size. I think the Stars made a mistake a year ago in the first round (Riley Tufte) but this player seems to have more good arrows.
  4. Colorado Avalanche: LD Miro Heiskanen, HIFK (Sm-Liiga). Puck-mover, excellent vision and speed. He is absolutely spiking on draft boards, owing mostly to his U18’s dominance and ability to compete well in the Sm-Liiga. Heiskanen is described as an elite two-way defender in the making, sounds like a perfect fit for the Avs.
  5. Vancouver Canucks: RC Gabriel Vilardi, Windsor Spitfires (OHL). Creative C with size, NHLE (33). Vilardi’s draft value seems to be surging (Bob McKenzie has him at No. 3 overall). The Canucks need a franchise center with exceptional offensive ability, and Vilardi seems to have emerged from the pack based on McKenzie’s list.
  6. Vegas Golden Knights: R Owen Tippett, Mississauga Steelheads (OHL). He covers 3 important categories (size, speed, sniper). The Golden Knights will know by draft day the other NHL teams gave them nothing offensively. George McPhee will have to grow his own and he starts here.
  7. Arizona Coyotes: RD Cale Makar, Brooks Bandits (AJHL). Fast, exceptional puck-moving acumen. Scouts see him as the next Erik Karlsson based on what we are hearing. The Coyotes have been drafting very well, I think Makar is a good fit.
  8. Buffalo Sabres: L Eeli Tolvanen, Sioux City Musketeers (USHL). Plus skater, NHL shot and release. Impossible to project the Buffalo draft template at this point, but they could use a shooter and this guy might be the best one in the draft.
  9. Detroit Red Wings: RD Timothy Liljegren, Rogle (Swe Jr). He is a mobile 2-way D with impressive skill. There is some evidence that he is moving down draft lists (McKenzie has him at No. 12) but his offense based on TOI looks good and he is mobile and can play defense.
  10. Florida Panthers: L Elias Pettersson, Timra (Swe-1). Impressive talent, very skilled. He is a mobile 2-way D with impressive skill. The team with the bulging analytics gets the player who appears to be a monster player based on his NHL equivalency. There is some buyer beware, as the NHLE is based on a small sample size. He appears to be worth the risk.
  11. Los Angeles Kings: RC Cody Glass, Portland Winterhawks (WHL). Complete skill set and his offense (NHLE:30) compares to pretty much anyone on this list. He moved up the McKenzie list, so could go higher than I have ranked him.
  12. Carolina Hurricanes: L Kristian Vesalainen, Frolunda (SHL). Big W, skilled, strong, can play L or R. Surging up the draft rankings, mostly due to outstanding performance at the recent U18’s. I’m not sure about his offense, but he is a very interesting prospect.
  13. Winnipeg Jets: LC Lias Andersson, Linkoping (SHL). Throwback 2-way C, aggressive, quick. 5.11, 200. The Jets could go any number of ways, but this is an astute pick and they usually do that kind of thing.
  14. Tampa Bay Lightning:  L Jason Robertson, Kingston Frontenacs (OHL). Big winger with a good shot. Speed is an issue for some, but his NHLE (31) is in the range with the best forwards available in the draft.
  15. NY Islanders: LC Michael Rasmussen, Tri-City Americans (WHL). Big C, physical, good skater. There are several players in this draft who could go in the top 10, and Rasmussen may be such a player. I don’t think his offense is enough to get him there, we will see.
  16. Calgary Flames: RC Robert Thomas, London Knights (OHL). Speedy forward, creative. One of my favourite players in this draft, he fits like a glove compared to recent Flames first-round selections. Underrated on many lists imo.
  17. Toronto Maple Leafs: RC Martin Necas, Brno (Czech). High speed skill W, he is rising on draft lists (BM: No. 10). I think Toronto have turned into exceptional value drafts and they would have to be thrilled if Necas fell this far.
  18. Boston Bruins: LC Ryan Poehling, St. Cloude State (NCAA). Big skill C with an offensive reputation. The achilles for this draft is offense, but Poehling’s scouting reports suggest he is going to be able to contribute at a solid clip.
  19. San Jose Sharks: R Kailer Yamamoto, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). Smart, elusive, offensive. He is undersized and has average speed, but Yamamoto can make things happen with the puck on his stick.
  20. Montreal Canadiens: R Klim Kostin, Balashikha (MHL). Giant winger, good offense. He has been injured much of the season, but the combination of size and skill will be too much for Montreal to resist. He could go much higher.
  21. Columbus Blue Jackets: LD Juuso Valimaki, Tri-City Americans (WHL). A big two-way D, smart, creative. Columbus has a dynamic defensive cluster, and don’t need to draft a blue this year in the first round. Valimaki represents terrific value here imo.
  22. Arizona Coyotes: RC Nick Suzuki, Owen Sound Attack (OHL).  Skill and creativity, a little one dimensional. He may go much higher (on merit), but foot speed is mentioned as a concern and that could scare early pickers away. Great value at this number.
  23. Chicago Blackhawks: RD Cal Foote, Kelowna Rockets (WHL). Huge D, awkward skater who does have straightaway speed, good passer, tough. Chicago begins anew in building a strong backline.
  24. St. Louis Blues: LD Nicholas Hague, Mississauga Steelheads (OHL). Rangy, aggressive, emerging offense. I have him as BPA, the Blues have a nice group of young defensemen pushing up.
  25. NY Rangers: LC Alexei Lipanov, Dyanmo Balashikha (VHL). Impressive 2-way resume. The Rangers rarely pick in the first round (last one: 2012, Brady Skjei) and badly need this one to come through. Lipanov seems a good bet.
  26. Anaheim Ducks: R Kole Lind, Kelowna Rockets (WHL). Speedy W with skill. He doesn’t get mentioned a lot as a first-round option, but he is bona fide.
  27. Washington Capitals: LC Joshua Norris, USNDTP (USHL). Two-way C showing good offense. He emerged later in the year as possibly the top USHL forward option for this draft. The Capitals get a fine prospect late in the first round.
  28. Nashville Predators: LC Jaret-Anderson Dolan, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). Small, very quick skater and plus skill. The Predators are demons at the draft.
  29. Ottawa Senators: RD Conor Timmins, SSE Greyhounds (OHL). Smart, reads plays well, excellent passer. He would certainly fit the Senators draft model (skilled, often the OHL).
  30. Edmonton Oilers: RC Scott Reedy, USNDTP (USHL). Center with speed, range of skills, dynamic. Scouting reports talk about ‘power forward’ potential. That is a Peter Chiarelli player.
  31. Pittsburgh Penguins: LD Uro Vaakanainen, JYP (Sm-Liiga). Fast two-way blue with a good shot. Fitting that the Finns add one more player to a dominant first round.

I have ranked teams based on record and current state of series. Washington is behind Pittsburgh, teams finished 1-2 in overall points, but the Penguins have the lead in the standings. Thus the ranking in terms of picks.

DON’T BOTHER, THEY’RE HERE

  • Carlyle‘To me it seems like there is somewhat of a white-glove treatment for Mr. McDavid. The restrictions on anybody touching him seems to be a little bit higher than normal. It’s fact. Simple. We review the tape numerous times. He does draw penalties, because of his speed. But if you don’t get close to him and you’re not inside of him, you’re going to watch him or you’re going to try and impede his progress.’ Source
 I ran this quote last night, wanted to do it again this morning as a reminder. The Anaheim Ducks can tie the series tonight, that’s a fact. The quote above does not come from a confident place, pretty sure. If the Edmonton Oilers play their game tonight, Randy Carlyle has no answer. I think his roster has more than he is getting out of it at this time. Sad.

PDO

This is a brilliant way to frame the Eberle (and Nuge, Lucic) issue. This line is getting shots and chances (Nuge, for crying out loud!) but cannot cash. As we talked yesterday, regression will occur and that’s the thing we should be discussing. It may not happen in this series, and you want to see each man on this line work like a demon. There is evidence they have been performing well, while also playing in some bad luck. Oilers Nerd Alert has been posting player shot pages on twitter, and the Nuge page is rife with good looks. Maybe tonight. Lucic and Eberle need to have events with the puck in scoring areas more often.

2016 DRAFT TRENDS

We are one year after on the 2016 entry draft and I think we have this draft class marked now. It is uncertain to me that any of the men chosen by Edmonton are going to bring enough offense to stand and deliver as productive skill players. Here are the NHLE’s:

  • No. 4 overall: R Jesse Puljujarvi 13-18-31
  • No. 32 overall: L Tyler Benson 7-21-28
  • No. 63 overall: LD Markus Niemelainen 1-3-4
  • No. 84 overall: LD Matthew Cairns 1-8-9
  • No. 91 overall: RD Filip Berglund 0-14-14
  • No. 123 overall: G Dylan Wells .916
  • No. 149 overall: L Graham McPhee 2-6-8
  • No. 153 overall: RC Aapeli Rasanen 4-11-15
  • No. 183 overall: RD Vincent Desharnais 2-1-3

  • My bet (we have to wait five years) is that we are going to see Jesse Puljujarvi emerge as a very productive two-way player. He will probably bring more offense than Gaetan Duchesne (one of my all-time favorite players). If we’re lucky, he may emerge as a modern Jere Lehtinen, and if that is the case the Oilers will have received full value. Puljujarvi will have plenty of opportunities to show his offensive chops, and if he plays a lot with McDavid, big offensive seasons may occur.
  • Benson had a promising season going with Vancouver Giants but it was once again derailed by injury. At this point, it is uncertain if we’ll ever see him at his best in pro hockey.
  • Among the three third-round defensemen, I identified Berglund as the most promising and the season’s posted confirm my suspicions. Miles to go, and Brock Otten confirmed many times to me that Niemelainen had a good defensive season, but he needs to post better boxcars. Cairns is raw and a project and we will see.
  • Dylan Wells is one of the feel good stories from the 2016 draft for Edmonton.
  • I have hopes for McPhee and Rasanen, but they are a fan’s hope, the same given to Tony Hand or Dragan Umicevic.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy show this morning beginning at 10, some things are fluid so tune in and see if everyone made it! TSN1260, scheduled to appear:

  • Darcy McLeod, Because Oilers. The hammering of Eberle, Nuge’s PDO, massive Game 4 tonight.
  • Jeff Krushell, Krush Performance. Noah Syndergaard’s injury and what it tells us, and what questions we should be asking.
  • Simon Boisvert, Prospect Insider. Why is the 2017 draft so difficult to rank? And did the Oilers handle Jesse Puljujarvi’s draft+1 season properly?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Zelepukin says:

    jeez we do not like to play it safe in the last couple minutes. Get it deep.

  2. Younger Oil says:

    Solid 3-1 victory, good work boys.

  3. BONE207 says:

    Need an ot hero…cmon oil

  4. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Dumb play by Benming. Put the puck right into the duck trap at the Red line. Came right back in 2 seconds later

  5. Professor Q says:

    BONE207:
    Need an ot hero…cmon oil

    Caggiula?

  6. fuzzy muppet says:

    What am i supposed to do for the next 15 minutes.

    Hyperventilate

  7. Oilanderp says:

    I vote Bone207 for captain of the 97th liners!

  8. Caller Zen says:

    Goal scored at 18:18 …18+18 = 36, Caggiula’s number!

  9. Zelepukin says:

    BONE207:
    Need an ot hero…cmon oil

    Ebs. No one Oil Country wants more than to get it.

  10. BONE207 says:

    Professor Q: Caggiula?

    Why not…I’ll take anyone

  11. Gret99zky says:

    unca miltie:
    Like I said every goal in the same net

    oh oh. Break the curse before OT. Quick!

  12. fuzzy muppet says:

    If they somehow.win this, the series is over.

    The ducks can’t come back from it

  13. jp says:

    Amazing that this team never seems to be out of it. They came back tonight, and have done it a bunch of times through the year.

    Way past my bed time here on the east coast, but it’ll be more than worth it if the Oil can take this one home!

  14. Jaxon says:

    I’m hoping for a Slepyshev, Pouliot, or Eberle goal.

  15. trencan says:

    This overtime can be key moment of the serie.

  16. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Caller Zen,

    Illuminati confirmed!

  17. --hudson-- says:

    unca miltie:
    Like I said every goal in the same net

    Uh oh

  18. BONE207 says:

    Oilanderp:
    I vote Bone207 for captain of the 97th liners!

    I trust that’s different from the liners in the Ft Mac tailing ponds

  19. Melvis says:

    Now should I leave the Drake and his mate nesting quietly somewhere in the yard…or should I let Alley the Cat out?

  20. fuzzy muppet says:

    Klima in OT

  21. Gret99zky says:

    BONE207:
    Need an ot hero…cmon oil

    Nuge please.

  22. Oilanderp says:

    Craig Simpson sharpens his own skates: on his hair part. Highest % shooter Oiler of all time. I summon the power of Craig Simpson’s hair to help us.

    I SUMMON THE POWER OF CRAIG SIMPSONS HAIR TO HELP US!!!!

  23. Lowetide says:

    First Period: 2-0 EDM, Shots 16-10 EDM, Corsi for 5×5 19-14 EDM.
    Second Period: 3-0 ANA, Shots 18-5 ANA, Corsi for 5×5 25-12 ANA
    Third Period: 1-0 EDM, Shots 11-10 EDM, Corsi for 5×5 16-15 EDM

    Overall: 3-3 ANA, Shots 38-32 ANA, Corsi for 5×5 54-47 ANA.

    If we go back to the end of the second period, Talbot made a flurry of saves and that may be a big part of the story.

  24. russ99 says:

    fuzzy muppet,

    Niiiice!

    I’m going with Ebs to redeem himself. On a backhander, of course.

  25. Centre of attention says:

    I’ve bitched and moaned about Drake getting in the line up over other options at times this season despite sub par performance at times.

    All is forgiven.

    Eberle keeping the play alive and not letting it die on his stick = that tying goal happening.

    This team is a roller coaster. The whole ride was broken down for about 30 minutes there but we’re back up and running and definitely heading up the curve now! 🙂

  26. Ribs says:

    unca miltie:
    Like I said every goal in the same net

    Ummm… Crap.

  27. Melvis says:

    And let’s leave St Peters church out of this. My last visit, I was a pall bearer.

  28. Gret99zky says:

    Lowetide:

    If we go back to the end of the second period, Talbot made a flurry of saves and that may be a big part of the story.

    So it is written. So let it be done.

  29. BONE207 says:

    –hudson–: Uh oh

    2nd ot…

  30. delooper says:

    Gret99zky: oh oh.Break the curse before OT.Quick!

    Or the goal might be scored in an even overtime.

  31. delooper says:

    I only have 10 hours, then a meeting, so this game better not go anymore than 8 or 9 overtimes.

  32. squeezboks says:

    In Europe – got up 4am to watch the game. Was regretting after the second period. Glad I stuck through to the end!

    Just gotta wait for the classic Draisaitl from McDavid in overtime.

  33. fuzzy muppet says:

    Just saw the Schultz GWG

    What is holtby doing? There’s no one in front and he pretty much sitting in the net. Terrible positioning

  34. Jon K says:

    Lowetide:
    First Period: 2-0 EDM, Shots 16-10 EDM, Corsi for 5×5 19-14 EDM.
    Second Period: 3-0 ANA, Shots 18-5 ANA, Corsi for 5×5 25-12 ANA
    Third Period: 1-0 EDM, Shots 11-10 EDM, Corsi for 5×5 16-15 EDM

    Overall: 3-3 ANA, Shots 38-32 ANA, Corsi for 5×5 54-47 ANA.

    If we go back to the end of the second period, Talbot made a flurry of saves and that may be a big part of the story.

    It’s worth remembering that he kept them in the game.

  35. BONE207 says:

    squeezboks:
    In Europe – got up 4am to watch the game.Was regretting after the second period.Glad I stuck through to the end!

    Just gotta wait for the classic Draisaitl from McDavid in overtime.

    Me too brother. Dawn is coming up a little drunk

  36. McSorley33 says:

    We are going to need to contain Getzlaf , Eberle and Perry in OT.

  37. Lowetide says:

    Ha! Well, there’s that.

  38. jp says:

    Damn. That sucks.

  39. Gret99zky says:

    fuck me

  40. Yak Efron says:

    Ugghh

  41. delooper says:

    Killer overtime.

  42. Chachi says:

    why wasn’t that icing?

  43. StixMalone says:

    Alrighty then…..

  44. Younger Oil says:

    How the fuck was that not icing?

    Linesman had his hand up, nobody waved it off from what I saw.

  45. Gret99zky says:

    best of three

  46. Ribs says:

    PISANI!!!! I mean, dammit, we forgot to trade for that guy. Sh!t.

  47. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Getzlaf beats the oilers. I hope lessons are being learned.

  48. delooper says:

    This was Getzlaf’s game.

  49. LMHF#1 says:

    And the choke job is completed on an idiotic line match.

    Pissing away a 2 nothing series lead…man that will cost them no matter what happens now.

  50. treevojo says:

    Well fuck

  51. Oilanderp says:

    Craig Simpson’s hair has failed us.

  52. BONE207 says:

    What in the actual fuck!!!

  53. Gret99zky says:

    another lesson learned

  54. fuzzy muppet says:

    That one hurts.

  55. Jon K says:

    Not quite the same play, but reminiscent of Melker Karlsson’s goal. What a gaffe. Lucic was covering the wing. Were the other forwards late due to shift change or…?

  56. russ99 says:

    Chasing the puck. Urgh.

    Series is tied, not over, we’re coming back here regardless,

    I want to see Gryba in on Friday, too many soft plays on defense.

  57. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Two goals because two Oilers failed pathetically to clear

    Oh well on to game 5

  58. fuzzy muppet says:

    I think Mcclellan has to try Drai at center V Getlaff.

    He’s single handedly killing them

  59. Centre of attention says:

    ah shit

  60. Diablo says:

    Younger Oil:
    How the fuck was that not icing?

    Linesman had his hand up, nobody waved it off from what I saw.

    Because the on ice officials are doing everything possible to help Anaheim win this series.

  61. hags9k says:

    The goalie interference non call killed us.

  62. BONE207 says:

    Can’t we win when Connor scores??? That’s our meal ticket…feast

  63. Younger Oil says:

    Three goals against that should have been whistled down earlier in the play.

    Absolutely fucking brutal.

    My NHL fandom has taken a huge hit after tonight’s events.

  64. Yak Efron says:

    How do they decide which ref gets the Conn Smythe?

  65. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Diablo,

    It makes it even better that Carlyle was bitching about reffing 24 hours ago

    Terrible calls aside that collapse in the 2nd was something else. I didn’t even think the Ducks brought that much pressure until the very end, the Oilers just rolled over. Need to figure that out.

    Soooooo many soft plays in the2nd and 3rd. The Larsson turnover at the end was bad bad bad.

    Oh well, series is tied, all evened up

    Spector and Co are gonna have a field day tomorrow

  66. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Where were the forwards on that goal?

  67. Mr. D. says:

    Refs? How about 77 and 6. DASH 3 DASH 4

  68. Android says:

    Younger Oil,

    As I said in my conversation with Spengler during the last series, I try not to complain about the refs.

    But three blatant missed calls on three goals, which decide the game?

    The officials should rot in their equivalent of a pressbox.

  69. Gret99zky says:

    Not Enough™

  70. fuzzy muppet says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    Good question. Still a horrible.pay by Larsson.

    Every shift matters and they haven’t figured that out yet.

    Run Drai in the middle vs. Getzlaf

  71. --hudson-- says:

    My fandom has survived the Oilers ineptitude but it’s not going to survive this officiating. Did the Oilers deserve to win? No

    But the missed calls, missed review, missed calls in the last game leave me feeling cheated. It’s a shame.

  72. Centre of attention says:

    Elliotte Friedman‏Verified account @FriedgeHNIC 48s48 seconds ago
    More
    On GWG, Larsson thinks icing (puts his hand up) realizes too late linesman has waved it off.

    Friedge with the goods as usual.

  73. russ99 says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    Where were the forwards on that goal?

    It was 3 on 3, but all three of our guys were after the puck.

    No excuse for that.

  74. Alpine says:

    I’m so mad at this team. I’m sorry. No wins at home and blowing a two goal lead. Fucking shit is what that is. They can’t beat the refs either and so they go and beat themselves.

  75. Mr. D. says:

    By the rules explained it was the right call.

    –hudson–:
    My fandom has survived the Oilers ineptitude but it’s not going to survive this officiating. Did the Oilers deserve to win? No

    But the missed calls, missed review, missed calls in the last game leave me feeling cheated.It’s a shame.

  76. Diablo says:

    SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!:
    Diablo,

    It makes it even better that Carlyle was bitching about reffing 24 hours ago

    Terrible calls aside that collapse in the 2nd was something else. I didn’t even think the Ducks brought that much pressure until the very end, the Oilers just rolled over. Need to figure that out.

    Soooooo many soft plays in the2nd and 3rd. The Larsson turnover at the end was bad bad bad.

    Oh well, series is tied, all evened up

    Spector and Co are gonna have a field day tomorrow

    Agree with that assessment – that’s the thing about a young team, consistency from period to period and game to game waxes and wanes. They patted themselves on the back for their 2 goal lead, and came out in the second with a soft effort, instead of stepping it up and trying to crush Anaheim.

  77. russ99 says:

    I hope whatever was wrong with Sekera is gone on Friday, one of his worst games as an Oiler.

  78. oilinthepeg says:

    Brutal OT of the Oilers, but… let’s be honest. The NHL does not want a team like the Oilers that plays clean (and when they don’t, they are consistently called for it) and has a lot of speed and skill to win.
    This officitiating was just incredible. That first goal. Absolutely a series momentum changer. Let’s hope the team can bounce back as they have in the past. Super disheartening loss for us fans. From heartattacks to fits of rage… to the deepest recesses of sadness. And I was sober the whole night! …sigh.

    …goilers… *clap*………….. *clap*.

  79. Seismic Source says:

    Win or lose this series, Chia is getting to see what changes need to be made next year. Worth it.

  80. russ99 says:

    Seismic Source,

    Good point.

  81. Centre of attention says:

    Talbot might get fined for his comments tonight

    Good for him. Somebody has to say something.

  82. McSorley33 says:

    russ99,

    On a night when 2 Oiler forwards had a *direct* impact on 2 of the 3 Duck goals…..you want Gryba?

  83. --hudson-- says:

    Younger Oil:
    Three goals against that should have been whistled down earlier in the play.

    Absolutely fucking brutal.

    My NHL fandom has taken a huge hit after tonight’s events.

    Same! This reminds me of the skate in the crease era. Up early against Dallas before Modano and Zubov took over. If the refs were incompetent there would be missed calls both ways. Maybe my fan goggles are on but it seems one sided

    Our protest won’t matter for anything, new fans will pour in. I wish there was a way

  84. russ99 says:

    McSorley33:
    russ99,

    On a night when 2 Oiler forwards had a *direct* impact on 2 of the 3 Duck goals…..you want Gryba?

    We were too soft on their forwards, especially on the behind the net plays.

    Yes the forwards didn’t help things on those two goals, but our defense didn’t do enough to minimize chances, and Talbot kept us in one we should have lost in the second.

    One thing about Gryba, he doesn’t back down or chase the play,

  85. Younger Oil says:

    It is so incredibly important for every journalist to keep bringing up this game, and not let it fade away.

    This game summed up everything that is wrong with the game of hockey. The worst thing that anyone can do is treat it like a normal game and let it just become the past.

  86. Scungilli Slushy says:

    The refs are what they are. It can’t be controlled. Playing poorly can be controlled. In the first period they were textbook. In the second crap. It took halfway in the third to wake up.

    Given the outrage from some about Eberle criticism, pulling out his historical scoring to justify him, what do you have to say now that he was benched in a critical game for being a passenger?

    Really, can you see what the issue is that others see? Given the condescension towards those that called it (and also other players on poor play) in many of the comments I think a response is justified.

    Lucic and Pouliot showed up.

  87. Bulging Twine says:

    On the OT goal it was Lucic that was beat for position along the boards.

  88. gogliano says:

    I just watched the replay from the behind the net camera. Pretty clear why Larsson was surprised by the non-icing call. Linesman has his hand up to call the icing, as he should, and there is no apparent reason why it is then called off.

    That’s 3 very iffy non-calls that resulted in goals.

  89. russ99 says:

    Bulging Twine:
    On the OT goal it was Lucic that was beat for position along the boards.

    And Benning did a cute little back flip with the puck along the wall that gave it away, instead of taking it as clearing it,

    You can say it was icing, but you have to play to the whistle.

  90. --hudson-- says:

    Younger Oil:
    It is so incredibly important for every journalist to keep bringing up this game, and not let it fade away.

    This game summed up everything that is wrong with the game of hockey. The worst thing that anyone can do is treat it like a normal game and let it just become the past.

    I’m not sure the media can do anything, they can lose their access to the team. It’s just a shame there’s a lot of cases this season where it really makes you question the integrity.

  91. Zelepukin says:

    Diablo: Agree with that assessment – that’s the thing about a young team, consistency from period to period and game to game waxes and wanes. They patted themselves on the back for their 2 goal lead, and came out in the second with a soft effort, instead of stepping it up and trying to crush Anaheim.

    It’s not even period to period, it’s shift to shift. Guys are still going out there and making bone-head decisions. There are things that you never attempt in play-offs. Blind chips off the boards, hanging onto the puck too long near the blue-line instead of getting it deep. Not applying pressure at every opportunity.

    It’s actually amazing that we’re still in this series and the playoffs, when you factor how inconsistent we are, the lack of playoff experience and lack of secondary scoring.

  92. Yak Efron says:

    Macs Big Break is on FXX, if anyone wants to cleanse their hockey souls.

  93. Bulging Twine says:

    Carlyle on Getzlaf:
    “He’s been an energized player since the five day break”
    “Whatever he had on the five day break we are going to find out and give him more”
    hmmm what DID he take?

  94. Ribs says:

    I’d watch a movie starring Bill Murray as Randy Carlisle…

  95. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Zelepukin: It’s not even period to period, it’s shift to shift. Guys are still going out there and making bone-head decisions. There are things that you never attempt in play-offs. Blind chips off the boards, hanging onto the puck too long near the blue-line instead of getting it deep. Not applying pressure at every opportunity.

    It’s actually amazing that we’re still in this series and the playoffs, when you factor how inconsistent we are, the lack of playoff experience and lack of secondary scoring.

    Truth

  96. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    Best of three in the quarterfinals with an Art Ross and probably a Hart and what could have been a Vezina nomination. October-me is psyched about this season. Let’s take these greasy a-holes to 7.
    I also hesitate to pin anything on the officiating because that is never honourable. But that is me who has a life and respect for himself.

    But I have an internet handle for a reason and Chelios is a Dinosaur thinks that was horseshit.

  97. Professor Q says:

    Fitting that the NHL officially called the game as 3-2 for Anaheim.

    We all make mistakes, just like the referees…

  98. Professor Q says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Carlyle on Getzlaf:
    “He’s been an energized player since the five day break”
    “Whatever he had on the five day break we are going to find out and give him more”
    hmmm what DID he take?

    Chia should have the Ducks tested.

  99. Centre of attention says:

    Refs or not boys, the Oilers have had their teeth kicked in at 5 on 5 for the most part this series.

    The Oilers need to look in the mirror a bit here and not just blame the refs and turn the page.

    They CAN win this series. This sounds so cliche’ and stupid, but they just need to believe it.

    They should have been pressuring right off the hop in the second and third when they were down. No excuse to just completely disengage just because you didn’t get a call here or there.

    They started moving their feet again and holding onto pucks in the offensive zone, and whaddya’ know they got right back in the game.

    I will be sad if the Oilers lose this series, but there is no way I can get super mad.

    “If you asked me in September if I would take a 2-2 series tie in round 2 against the Division winning Ducks I would say I’ll take that, refs or not.”

  100. Professor Q says:

    Centre of attention:
    Talbot might get fined for his comments tonight

    Good for him. Somebody has to say something.

    I don’t see how that’s any different from what Pittsburgh or Anaheim have said in recent days.

    If he does get fined then we know for sure there’s a bigger bias than we thought.

  101. Zelepukin says:

    Centre of attention: “If you asked me in September if I would take a 2-2 series tie in round 2 against the Division winning Ducks I would say I’ll take that, refs or not.”

    Same. We’re basically running on luck at this point. Luck runs out with every new game in the playoffs. Eventually it ends with two teams playing the game of, who can make the fewest amount of mistakes. Because like the OT winner, you make one flick of the wrist mistake and bobble the puck and the better team will make you pay.

  102. Professor Q says:

    McDavid’s breaking out.

    The NHL will fear him once he gets out of puberty.

  103. bendelson says:

    That game was emotional…

  104. Centre of attention says:

    Professor Q,

    yeah it does seem more and more people are talking about the poor standard of officiating. you’re right it would be hard to fine Talbot for that due to the other stuff that has been said including the “white glove” bullshit the other night.

  105. dangilitis says:

    “It’s just another exclamation point on the type of player Getzy’s been for our hockey club,” Carlyle said. “He’s our captain, he’s our leader. He’s done a lot of things that go unnoticed…”

    Isn’t that called the ‘white glove treatment’?

  106. StixMalone says:

    bendelson:
    That game was emotional…

    Emotionally draining…..

  107. megahurts says:

    Even with the ice tilted pi/2 through refereeing the Oilers could have one this one, with maybe a bit more due diligence.

    I think that is a good sign no?

  108. hags9k says:

    I’ve seen enough of this series to know that we are the better team.

    All that remains to be seen is whether or not this young team will follow through.

    I think they will.

  109. Bulging Twine says:

    Talbot was saying it was his blocker that was hit that didn’t allow him to save that goal, not his foot.

  110. unca miltie says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Talbot was saying it was his blocker that was hit that didn’t allow him to save that goal, not his foot.

    Looked to me that contact was made twice, once on the foot and the other up high, ie blocker. Just another veteran play from the ducks.
    Of course the last goal was in the same net as all the others. When I saw Talbot skate towards me at the start of overtime, my heart sunk.

  111. jzed says:

    The really humorous thing is that the NHL will show zero concern about three blown calls having a direct effect on a game. We do live in a world where Russian hacking and FBI backstabbing can help elect a buffoon as President of the USA, but oh not really, hard to say what effect it had , oh well, no harm no foul…. NHL is the sports version of Trump, successfull, just not credible.

    Take it to them down in La La Land, it’s up for grabs boys!

  112. Bulging Twine says:

    No Center has shut down Getzlaf. McDavid, RNH, Letestu, Desharnais.
    Do we need a shut down center?
    A bigger one?
    How has Hanzal been against Getzlaf I wonder.

  113. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Bulging Twine,

    I wouldn’t get too wound up on the “shut Getzlaf down” train.

    All four of his points came in weak plays by the Oilers

    1) Eberle coughs it up the boards
    2) Play was offside
    3) Nuge didn’t have his head on a swivel and got stick checked into an own goal
    4) Weak chip up the boards by Larsson

    Getzlaf is good, the Oilers are even better at outsmarting themselves some moments.

    The Ducks are a very very opportunistic team. This series is now eerily similar to what happened to the Flames. Outplay the Ducks for swaths, crack and fold the minute they get a cheap goal, chase the rest of the game.

    The Oil just have to focus and not turn the taps off in the middle of the period. They can beat this team.

    The reffing is a farce, but we knew that last round as well and the team fought through it. Need that same sort of discipline for the next few!

    No need to be so glum chums!

    Series is tied! Back to Cali we go

  114. Dennis L says:

    russ99,

    It was Larsson with the board give away in OT, not Benning.

  115. Pouzar says:

    Following the games online now. I am not investing another frickin emotional second on this shit show. Stick yer iPads up your asses you jerk off refs.

  116. unca miltie says:

    Short night for me. Just had my first coffee this morning. Yes, if someone had told me in
    September that the Oil would be tied 2 to 2 in the second round of the playoffs , it would have been hard to believe. Still think last nights game was winnable, Loved the atmosphere at the game, grateful for the opportunity to attend.

  117. VOR says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    Re: Jordan Eberle. I said in Tuesday nights thread that I have never met an athlete who responded well to being hated on. I think we can add Eberle to the list that includes hundreds of NHLers from Frank Mahovlic to Devan Dubnyk who have been hated on and delivered worse on ice performance subsequently. Maybe we should quit hating on players we need in order to win hockey games. By all means trade the player, cut his ice time, bench him, healthy scratch him but don’t offer him up as a sacrifice to the haters with a “not enough”.

  118. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    VOR,

    Agreed, sadly it seems, some people want a pound of flesh more than they want to see their own team win.

    Same as it ever was I suppose

  119. Scungilli Slushy says:

    That was a hard game to watch. Young teams struggle with forcing plays and that lack of patience and not paying attention to details kills in the playoffs. They went good for a period and lost the plot. More guys showed up, hopefully the full team next game.

    I think with Nuge it’s not snake bitten, but just that he isn’t a very good finisher. Lt told us I believe he was shy on offense in his draft year, at least for the most part he is playing well and helping.

    It might be time for somebody to shadow Getzlaf.

  120. Scungilli Slushy says:

    VOR:
    Scungilli Slushy,

    Re: Jordan Eberle. I said in Tuesday nights thread that I have never met an athlete who responded well to being hated on. I think we can add Eberle to the list that includes hundreds of NHLers from Frank Mahovlic to Devan Dubnyk who have been hated on and delivered worse on ice performance subsequently. Maybe we should quit hating on players we need in order to win hockey games. By all means trade the player, cut his ice time, bench him, healthy scratch him but don’t offer him up as a sacrifice to the haters with a “not enough”.

    I don’t hate Eberle, have never said that, and have never called out his character, desire or his skill.

    For those of us who comment on players not doing well, many responses come across like anybody who dare question the effectiveness of a player has no idea what they are talking about, ‘hater’ is often used (and some commenters do take that line, but plenty don’t), lots of stats are brought out to show how good the are that don’t match with what we see on the ice (and I am a stats supporter).

    I said that because people that rebut in those ways are always silent when their point of view is proven wrong. The guy got benched in the most important game to date in his NHL career. He needs to find a way to be better and I hope he does. If a comment I make on this blog is causing him to play poorly perhaps he isn’t cut out for being a pro athlete 🙂

    I like the players representing the Orange and Blue, but some of them are not playing well.

  121. Woogie63 says:

    Lucic-Draisaitl-Slepyshev

    Might be a tougher line for Getzfal play against. I would have Lucic lean into Gretzfal, big boy v. Big boy.

    Watch Perry and Getzlaf look the other way after Lucic cross checks Kase. Perry literally steps around the prone Kase and skates away from Lucic.

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